Atlantropa, also referred to as Panropa, was a gigantic engineering and colonisation idea that was devised by the German architect Herman Sörgel in the 1920s, and promoted by him until his death in 1952. The project was devised to contain several hydroelectric dams in key points of the Mediterranean Sea, such as the Strait of Gibraltar and the Bosporus, to cause a sea level drop and create new land to settle.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa

dv said:

Atlantropa, also referred to as Panropa, was a gigantic engineering and colonisation idea that was devised by the German architect Herman Sörgel in the 1920s, and promoted by him until his death in 1952. The project was devised to contain several hydroelectric dams in key points of the Mediterranean Sea, such as the Strait of Gibraltar and the Bosporus, to cause a sea level drop and create new land to settle.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa

I think it would have been a bit of an environmental disaster. The Med would have dried up and turned into a massive salt pan. Not sure if much habitable or agriculturally productive land would be created as a result of it. It would have stunk too, with much dead and decaying matter. Not to mention ruining rainfall and climate patterns, it would have made the eastern Med drier and less habitable.

party_pants said:

dv said:

Atlantropa, also referred to as Panropa, was a gigantic engineering and colonisation idea that was devised by the German architect Herman Sörgel in the 1920s, and promoted by him until his death in 1952. The project was devised to contain several hydroelectric dams in key points of the Mediterranean Sea, such as the Strait of Gibraltar and the Bosporus, to cause a sea level drop and create new land to settle.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa

I think it would have been a bit of an environmental disaster. The Med would have dried up and turned into a massive salt pan. Not sure if much habitable or agriculturally productive land would be created as a result of it. It would have stunk too, with much dead and decaying matter. Not to mention ruining rainfall and climate patterns, it would have made the eastern Med drier and less habitable.

Well look at negative Nigel, focusing on the downside

dv said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

Atlantropa, also referred to as Panropa, was a gigantic engineering and colonisation idea that was devised by the German architect Herman Sörgel in the 1920s, and promoted by him until his death in 1952. The project was devised to contain several hydroelectric dams in key points of the Mediterranean Sea, such as the Strait of Gibraltar and the Bosporus, to cause a sea level drop and create new land to settle.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa

I think it would have been a bit of an environmental disaster. The Med would have dried up and turned into a massive salt pan. Not sure if much habitable or agriculturally productive land would be created as a result of it. It would have stunk too, with much dead and decaying matter. Not to mention ruining rainfall and climate patterns, it would have made the eastern Med drier and less habitable.

Well look at negative Nigel, focusing on the downside

Could I be negative nigel next time please?

dv said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

Atlantropa, also referred to as Panropa, was a gigantic engineering and colonisation idea that was devised by the German architect Herman Sörgel in the 1920s, and promoted by him until his death in 1952. The project was devised to contain several hydroelectric dams in key points of the Mediterranean Sea, such as the Strait of Gibraltar and the Bosporus, to cause a sea level drop and create new land to settle.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa

I think it would have been a bit of an environmental disaster. The Med would have dried up and turned into a massive salt pan. Not sure if much habitable or agriculturally productive land would be created as a result of it. It would have stunk too, with much dead and decaying matter. Not to mention ruining rainfall and climate patterns, it would have made the eastern Med drier and less habitable.

Well look at negative Nigel, focusing on the downside

I once started a thread on the proposal to dam the North Sea and turn it into a massive freshwater lake. I got shot down like it was my own idea. I have carried that grudge for a long time :p

В период с 1965 по 1988 год на территории СССР в рамках реализации государственной программы «Ядерные взрывы для народного хозяйства» было произведено 124 мирных ядерных взрыва, из них 117 — за пределами границ испытательных полигонов ядерного оружия. Все ядерные взрывы были подземными.

По соотношению «количество взрывов (количество зарядов и устройств)»: 80 (84) проведено в РСФСР, 39 (46) — в Казахской ССР, 2 (2) — в Украинской ССР, 2 (2) — в Узбекской ССР, 1 (1) — в Туркменской ССР. Подавляющее большинство взрывов зарядов (130) было произведено в скважинах, лишь один — в шахте и четыре — в штольнях.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

party_pants said:

I think it would have been a bit of an environmental disaster. The Med would have dried up and turned into a massive salt pan. Not sure if much habitable or agriculturally productive land would be created as a result of it. It would have stunk too, with much dead and decaying matter. Not to mention ruining rainfall and climate patterns, it would have made the eastern Med drier and less habitable.

Well look at negative Nigel, focusing on the downside

Could I be negative nigel next time please?

Sure

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

party_pants said:

I think it would have been a bit of an environmental disaster. The Med would have dried up and turned into a massive salt pan. Not sure if much habitable or agriculturally productive land would be created as a result of it. It would have stunk too, with much dead and decaying matter. Not to mention ruining rainfall and climate patterns, it would have made the eastern Med drier and less habitable.

Well look at negative Nigel, focusing on the downside

Could I be negative nigel next time please?

How about subtractive Sarah’s mum?

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

party_pants said:

I think it would have been a bit of an environmental disaster. The Med would have dried up and turned into a massive salt pan. Not sure if much habitable or agriculturally productive land would be created as a result of it. It would have stunk too, with much dead and decaying matter. Not to mention ruining rainfall and climate patterns, it would have made the eastern Med drier and less habitable.

Well look at negative Nigel, focusing on the downside

Could I be negative nigel next time please?

Sure

but think of all the profit that could have been had, salt was big trade money wasn’t it, The Economy Must Grow so bring it

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Well look at negative Nigel, focusing on the downside

Could I be negative nigel next time please?

How about subtractive Sarah’s mum?

party_pants said:

dv said:

Atlantropa, also referred to as Panropa, was a gigantic engineering and colonisation idea that was devised by the German architect Herman Sörgel in the 1920s, and promoted by him until his death in 1952. The project was devised to contain several hydroelectric dams in key points of the Mediterranean Sea, such as the Strait of Gibraltar and the Bosporus, to cause a sea level drop and create new land to settle.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa

I think it would have been a bit of an environmental disaster. The Med would have dried up and turned into a massive salt pan. Not sure if much habitable or agriculturally productive land would be created as a result of it. It would have stunk too, with much dead and decaying matter. Not to mention ruining rainfall and climate patterns, it would have made the eastern Med drier and less habitable.

I’m not in favour of it. Quite apart from the obvious environmental disaster, it would play hell with shipping.

It has happened before, totally naturally. Several times. Geological forces caused the strait of Gibraltar to close. And yes, the Med had dried up and turned into a massive salt pan.

Gibraltar Bridge is better.

As for the salt, the Dutch seem to have solved that problem when reclaiming large areas of land from the sea. I don’t know how they did it.

It’s nice to see that engineers are still thinking outside the box. Or at least were thinking outside the box 102 years ago.

mollwollfumble said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

Atlantropa, also referred to as Panropa, was a gigantic engineering and colonisation idea that was devised by the German architect Herman Sörgel in the 1920s, and promoted by him until his death in 1952. The project was devised to contain several hydroelectric dams in key points of the Mediterranean Sea, such as the Strait of Gibraltar and the Bosporus, to cause a sea level drop and create new land to settle.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa

I think it would have been a bit of an environmental disaster. The Med would have dried up and turned into a massive salt pan. Not sure if much habitable or agriculturally productive land would be created as a result of it. It would have stunk too, with much dead and decaying matter. Not to mention ruining rainfall and climate patterns, it would have made the eastern Med drier and less habitable.

I’m not in favour of it. Quite apart from the obvious environmental disaster, it would play hell with shipping.

It has happened before, totally naturally. Several times. Geological forces caused the strait of Gibraltar to close. And yes, the Med had dried up and turned into a massive salt pan.

Gibraltar Bridge is better.

As for the salt, the Dutch seem to have solved that problem when reclaiming large areas of land from the sea. I don’t know how they did it.

It’s nice to see that engineers are still thinking outside the box. Or at least were thinking outside the box 102 years ago.

The Dutch had fresh water flowing through their land, flushing out the salt at low tide with rainwater, closing the dykes as the tide and salty water rose.

You can’t do that in the middle of the Med, below sea level. No water flow to flush out salt.

Kingy said:

mollwollfumble said:

party_pants said:

I think it would have been a bit of an environmental disaster. The Med would have dried up and turned into a massive salt pan. Not sure if much habitable or agriculturally productive land would be created as a result of it. It would have stunk too, with much dead and decaying matter. Not to mention ruining rainfall and climate patterns, it would have made the eastern Med drier and less habitable.

I’m not in favour of it. Quite apart from the obvious environmental disaster, it would play hell with shipping.

It has happened before, totally naturally. Several times. Geological forces caused the strait of Gibraltar to close. And yes, the Med had dried up and turned into a massive salt pan.

Gibraltar Bridge is better.

As for the salt, the Dutch seem to have solved that problem when reclaiming large areas of land from the sea. I don’t know how they did it.

It’s nice to see that engineers are still thinking outside the box. Or at least were thinking outside the box 102 years ago.

The Dutch had fresh water flowing through their land, flushing out the salt at low tide with rainwater, closing the dykes as the tide and salty water rose.

You can’t do that in the middle of the Med, below sea level. No water flow to flush out salt.

good point

party_pants said:

Kingy said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’m not in favour of it. Quite apart from the obvious environmental disaster, it would play hell with shipping.

It has happened before, totally naturally. Several times. Geological forces caused the strait of Gibraltar to close. And yes, the Med had dried up and turned into a massive salt pan.

Gibraltar Bridge is better.

As for the salt, the Dutch seem to have solved that problem when reclaiming large areas of land from the sea. I don’t know how they did it.

It’s nice to see that engineers are still thinking outside the box. Or at least were thinking outside the box 102 years ago.

The Dutch had fresh water flowing through their land, flushing out the salt at low tide with rainwater, closing the dykes as the tide and salty water rose.

You can’t do that in the middle of the Med, below sea level. No water flow to flush out salt.

good point

specially considering what europe’s river systems look like atm.