Date: 3/10/2022 12:58:53
From: dv
ID: 1940152
Subject: Brazilian politics

Brazilian presidential and congressional elections were held on 2 October (indeed it is still Sunday evening in Brazil).

If no one gets to 50% in the Presidential election, it will go to a run off on 30 October.

It appears that it will in fact go to a runoff. Lula, of the Workers Party, has received about 48% of the vote compared to 43% for Bolsonaro.

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Date: 3/10/2022 16:24:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1940187
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:


Brazilian presidential and congressional elections were held on 2 October (indeed it is still Sunday evening in Brazil).

If no one gets to 50% in the Presidential election, it will go to a run off on 30 October.

It appears that it will in fact go to a runoff. Lula, of the Workers Party, has received about 48% of the vote compared to 43% for Bolsonaro.

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

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Date: 3/10/2022 16:55:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1940189
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Brazilian presidential and congressional elections were held on 2 October (indeed it is still Sunday evening in Brazil).

If no one gets to 50% in the Presidential election, it will go to a run off on 30 October.

It appears that it will in fact go to a runoff. Lula, of the Workers Party, has received about 48% of the vote compared to 43% for Bolsonaro.

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

France does similar to elect it’s President.

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Date: 3/10/2022 16:56:41
From: party_pants
ID: 1940190
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Brazilian presidential and congressional elections were held on 2 October (indeed it is still Sunday evening in Brazil).

If no one gets to 50% in the Presidential election, it will go to a run off on 30 October.

It appears that it will in fact go to a runoff. Lula, of the Workers Party, has received about 48% of the vote compared to 43% for Bolsonaro.

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

France does similar to elect it’s President.

It’s a good argument for preferential voting IMHO. Get it all over and done with in one round of voting.

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Date: 3/10/2022 17:05:28
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1940191
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Brazilian presidential and congressional elections were held on 2 October (indeed it is still Sunday evening in Brazil).

If no one gets to 50% in the Presidential election, it will go to a run off on 30 October.

It appears that it will in fact go to a runoff. Lula, of the Workers Party, has received about 48% of the vote compared to 43% for Bolsonaro.

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

France does similar to elect it’s President.

PWM is making a pun on ‘run-off’ ie. athletics.

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Date: 3/10/2022 17:07:23
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1940193
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Brazilian presidential and congressional elections were held on 2 October (indeed it is still Sunday evening in Brazil).

If no one gets to 50% in the Presidential election, it will go to a run off on 30 October.

It appears that it will in fact go to a runoff. Lula, of the Workers Party, has received about 48% of the vote compared to 43% for Bolsonaro.

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

What distance? A quick 100m dash would get it over with quickly, but a good half-marathon would make for better viewing.

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Date: 3/10/2022 17:09:20
From: Tamb
ID: 1940195
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Dark Orange said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Brazilian presidential and congressional elections were held on 2 October (indeed it is still Sunday evening in Brazil).

If no one gets to 50% in the Presidential election, it will go to a run off on 30 October.

It appears that it will in fact go to a runoff. Lula, of the Workers Party, has received about 48% of the vote compared to 43% for Bolsonaro.

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

What distance? A quick 100m dash would get it over with quickly, but a good half-marathon would make for better viewing.


I thought it was the Amazon in the Wet Season.

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Date: 3/10/2022 17:16:02
From: Michael V
ID: 1940197
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Witty Rejoinder said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

France does similar to elect it’s President.

PWM is making a pun on ‘run-off’ ie. athletics.

I see now, thanks…

:)

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Date: 3/10/2022 17:40:14
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1940204
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

France does similar to elect it’s President.

PWM is making a pun on ‘run-off’ ie. athletics.

I see now, thanks…

:)

Whenever PWM makes a statement, you should always look for the pun.

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Date: 3/10/2022 17:46:11
From: Michael V
ID: 1940205
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Dark Orange said:


Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

PWM is making a pun on ‘run-off’ ie. athletics.

I see now, thanks…

:)

Whenever PWM makes a statement, you should always look for the pun.

:)

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Date: 3/10/2022 17:49:27
From: sibeen
ID: 1940206
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

I’ve been getting the shits all day with people from Sydney who won’t take any calls. I’ve just been told that it’s a public holiday up there.

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Date: 3/10/2022 20:59:31
From: Kingy
ID: 1940276
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

France does similar to elect it’s President.

It’s a good argument for preferential voting IMHO. Get it all over and done with in one round of voting.

I read somewhere today that the preferences in Australia will now go to whoever is second on the ticket according to the second political parties preferences.

I hope I’m wrong.

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Date: 3/10/2022 21:01:29
From: party_pants
ID: 1940278
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Kingy said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

France does similar to elect it’s President.

It’s a good argument for preferential voting IMHO. Get it all over and done with in one round of voting.

I read somewhere today that the preferences in Australia will now go to whoever is second on the ticket according to the second political parties preferences.

I hope I’m wrong.

Antony Green tweeted something about this the other day. It applies only to the Victorian upper house elections. They haven’t reformed their voting system yet.

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Date: 3/10/2022 23:18:14
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1940298
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

In 2021, there were massive nationwide protests and riots against president Bolsonaro.

He currently has 43.2% of the votes.

But thankfully that only places him second. If Bolsonaro won the 2022 elections, I hate to think what riots would follow.

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Date: 4/10/2022 02:11:33
From: dv
ID: 1940319
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

mollwollfumble said:


In 2021, there were massive nationwide protests and riots against president Bolsonaro.

He currently has 43.2% of the votes.

But thankfully that only places him second. If Bolsonaro won the 2022 elections, I hate to think what riots would follow.

Really?

You’re more worried about the protests than you are about a continued Bolsonaro government? So weird.

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Date: 31/10/2022 11:13:53
From: dv
ID: 1950698
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Welcome news.

Michael V said:


Pinko beats RWNJ Trump lookalike in Brazil.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-31/luiz-inacio-lula-da-silva-beats-jair-bolsonaro-in-brazil/101596302

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Date: 31/10/2022 12:06:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1950715
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:

Welcome news.

Michael V said:

Pinko beats RWNJ Trump lookalike in Brazil.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-31/luiz-inacio-lula-da-silva-beats-jair-bolsonaro-in-brazil/101596302

good

now watch as world police subsidise another coup

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Date: 31/10/2022 20:17:49
From: dv
ID: 1950895
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

You’ll be amazed to learn that Bolsonaro has not conceded.

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Date: 31/10/2022 20:18:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1950896
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:


You’ll be amazed to learn that Bolsonaro has not conceded.

Has he not been shot yet then?

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Date: 31/10/2022 20:27:37
From: Woodie
ID: 1950901
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:


You’ll be amazed to learn that Bolsonaro has not conceded.

The election a close shave was it?

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Date: 31/10/2022 21:09:53
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1950925
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Woodie said:


dv said:

You’ll be amazed to learn that Bolsonaro has not conceded.

The election a close shave was it?

Oh dear,

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Date: 9/01/2023 08:18:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1978023
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

dv said:

You’ll be amazed to learn that Bolsonaro has not conceded.

The election a close shave was it?

Oh dear,

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-09/pro-bolsonaro-protesters-storm-brazil-congress-in-capital/101836292

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Date: 11/01/2023 12:34:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1978930
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

https://www.wired.com/story/the-us-far-right-helped-stoke-the-attack-on-brazils-congress/
https://www.wired.com/story/twitters-moderation-system-is-in-tatters/

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Date: 31/07/2025 22:56:03
From: dv
ID: 2304274
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

On Wednesday (30), the United States sanctioned Brazil’s Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes under the Magnitsky Act. The measure, published by the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) of the U.S. Department of the Treasury, is unprecedented in targeting a Brazilian magistrate and deepens the diplomatic crisis between the two countries.

Created in 2012, the Magnitsky Act allows Washington to impose sanctions on foreign citizens accused of large-scale corruption or serious human rights violations. The name is a tribute to Russian lawyer Sergei Magnitsky, who died in prison after exposing a billion-dollar embezzlement scheme in Russia. In 2016, the scope of the law was expanded to cover global cases, making it one of the toughest tools in U.S. foreign policy.

Among the sanctions the act provides for are the freezing of assets in the United States and financial restrictions, as well as a ban on transactions with U.S. companies and citizens. The OFAC applies and monitors the measures.

The imposition of the sanction reignites a diplomatic crisis because it means direct U.S. interference in Brazilian internal affairs, attacking a judicial authority conducting investigations into the coup attempt of January 8, 2023, in which former President Jair Bolsonaro was utterly involved.

The government have classified the U.S. attempt to influence the Brazilian judiciary as “unacceptable interference,” especially since it comes amid the trade dispute triggered by Trump’s tariffs on Brazilian products.

The pressure to impose sanctions also met with resistance from the United States Treasury itself. Sources heard by the Washington Post said that some of the agency’s technicians warned of the risk of undermining U.S. credibility in defending democracy, since the sanction would be politically motivated, in retaliation for judicial decisions affecting Bolsonaro and his allies.

https://www.brasildefato.com.br/2025/07/30/u-s-sanctions-brazilian-justice-alexandre-de-moraes-based-on-the-magnitsky-act/

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Date: 31/07/2025 22:58:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2304276
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:

On Wednesday (30), the United States sanctioned Brazil’s Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes under the Magnitsky Act. The measure, published by the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) of the U.S. Department of the Treasury, is unprecedented in targeting a Brazilian magistrate and deepens the diplomatic crisis between the two countries.

Created in 2012, the Magnitsky Act allows Washington to impose sanctions on foreign citizens accused of large-scale corruption or serious human rights violations. The name is a tribute to Russian lawyer Sergei Magnitsky, who died in prison after exposing a billion-dollar embezzlement scheme in Russia. In 2016, the scope of the law was expanded to cover global cases, making it one of the toughest tools in U.S. foreign policy.

Among the sanctions the act provides for are the freezing of assets in the United States and financial restrictions, as well as a ban on transactions with U.S. companies and citizens. The OFAC applies and monitors the measures.

The imposition of the sanction reignites a diplomatic crisis because it means direct U.S. interference in Brazilian internal affairs, attacking a judicial authority conducting investigations into the coup attempt of January 8, 2023, in which former President Jair Bolsonaro was utterly involved.

The government have classified the U.S. attempt to influence the Brazilian judiciary as “unacceptable interference,” especially since it comes amid the trade dispute triggered by Trump’s tariffs on Brazilian products.

The pressure to impose sanctions also met with resistance from the United States Treasury itself. Sources heard by the Washington Post said that some of the agency’s technicians warned of the risk of undermining U.S. credibility in defending democracy, since the sanction would be politically motivated, in retaliation for judicial decisions affecting Bolsonaro and his allies.

https://www.brasildefato.com.br/2025/07/30/u-s-sanctions-brazilian-justice-alexandre-de-moraes-based-on-the-magnitsky-act/

I wonder how much of this is due to a vendetta by Trump against Brazil because of their treatment of their own clone of Trump, Bolisnaro?

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Date: 12/09/2025 17:52:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2315445
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

more rejoicing

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-12/brazil-bolsonaro-guilty-of-coup-charges/105765198

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