Date: 3/10/2022 12:58:53
From: dv
ID: 1940152
Subject: Brazilian politics

Brazilian presidential and congressional elections were held on 2 October (indeed it is still Sunday evening in Brazil).

If no one gets to 50% in the Presidential election, it will go to a run off on 30 October.

It appears that it will in fact go to a runoff. Lula, of the Workers Party, has received about 48% of the vote compared to 43% for Bolsonaro.

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Date: 3/10/2022 16:24:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1940187
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:


Brazilian presidential and congressional elections were held on 2 October (indeed it is still Sunday evening in Brazil).

If no one gets to 50% in the Presidential election, it will go to a run off on 30 October.

It appears that it will in fact go to a runoff. Lula, of the Workers Party, has received about 48% of the vote compared to 43% for Bolsonaro.

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

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Date: 3/10/2022 16:55:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1940189
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Brazilian presidential and congressional elections were held on 2 October (indeed it is still Sunday evening in Brazil).

If no one gets to 50% in the Presidential election, it will go to a run off on 30 October.

It appears that it will in fact go to a runoff. Lula, of the Workers Party, has received about 48% of the vote compared to 43% for Bolsonaro.

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

France does similar to elect it’s President.

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Date: 3/10/2022 16:56:41
From: party_pants
ID: 1940190
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Brazilian presidential and congressional elections were held on 2 October (indeed it is still Sunday evening in Brazil).

If no one gets to 50% in the Presidential election, it will go to a run off on 30 October.

It appears that it will in fact go to a runoff. Lula, of the Workers Party, has received about 48% of the vote compared to 43% for Bolsonaro.

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

France does similar to elect it’s President.

It’s a good argument for preferential voting IMHO. Get it all over and done with in one round of voting.

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Date: 3/10/2022 17:05:28
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1940191
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Brazilian presidential and congressional elections were held on 2 October (indeed it is still Sunday evening in Brazil).

If no one gets to 50% in the Presidential election, it will go to a run off on 30 October.

It appears that it will in fact go to a runoff. Lula, of the Workers Party, has received about 48% of the vote compared to 43% for Bolsonaro.

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

France does similar to elect it’s President.

PWM is making a pun on ‘run-off’ ie. athletics.

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Date: 3/10/2022 17:07:23
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1940193
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Peak Warming Man said:


dv said:

Brazilian presidential and congressional elections were held on 2 October (indeed it is still Sunday evening in Brazil).

If no one gets to 50% in the Presidential election, it will go to a run off on 30 October.

It appears that it will in fact go to a runoff. Lula, of the Workers Party, has received about 48% of the vote compared to 43% for Bolsonaro.

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

What distance? A quick 100m dash would get it over with quickly, but a good half-marathon would make for better viewing.

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Date: 3/10/2022 17:09:20
From: Tamb
ID: 1940195
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Dark Orange said:


Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Brazilian presidential and congressional elections were held on 2 October (indeed it is still Sunday evening in Brazil).

If no one gets to 50% in the Presidential election, it will go to a run off on 30 October.

It appears that it will in fact go to a runoff. Lula, of the Workers Party, has received about 48% of the vote compared to 43% for Bolsonaro.

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

What distance? A quick 100m dash would get it over with quickly, but a good half-marathon would make for better viewing.


I thought it was the Amazon in the Wet Season.

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Date: 3/10/2022 17:16:02
From: Michael V
ID: 1940197
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Witty Rejoinder said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

France does similar to elect it’s President.

PWM is making a pun on ‘run-off’ ie. athletics.

I see now, thanks…

:)

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Date: 3/10/2022 17:40:14
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1940204
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Michael V said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

France does similar to elect it’s President.

PWM is making a pun on ‘run-off’ ie. athletics.

I see now, thanks…

:)

Whenever PWM makes a statement, you should always look for the pun.

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Date: 3/10/2022 17:46:11
From: Michael V
ID: 1940205
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Dark Orange said:


Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

PWM is making a pun on ‘run-off’ ie. athletics.

I see now, thanks…

:)

Whenever PWM makes a statement, you should always look for the pun.

:)

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Date: 3/10/2022 17:49:27
From: sibeen
ID: 1940206
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

I’ve been getting the shits all day with people from Sydney who won’t take any calls. I’ve just been told that it’s a public holiday up there.

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Date: 3/10/2022 20:59:31
From: Kingy
ID: 1940276
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s a strange way to decide an election.
I’d guess they have both been training, neither of them are young anymore but.

France does similar to elect it’s President.

It’s a good argument for preferential voting IMHO. Get it all over and done with in one round of voting.

I read somewhere today that the preferences in Australia will now go to whoever is second on the ticket according to the second political parties preferences.

I hope I’m wrong.

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Date: 3/10/2022 21:01:29
From: party_pants
ID: 1940278
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Kingy said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

France does similar to elect it’s President.

It’s a good argument for preferential voting IMHO. Get it all over and done with in one round of voting.

I read somewhere today that the preferences in Australia will now go to whoever is second on the ticket according to the second political parties preferences.

I hope I’m wrong.

Antony Green tweeted something about this the other day. It applies only to the Victorian upper house elections. They haven’t reformed their voting system yet.

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Date: 3/10/2022 23:18:14
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1940298
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

In 2021, there were massive nationwide protests and riots against president Bolsonaro.

He currently has 43.2% of the votes.

But thankfully that only places him second. If Bolsonaro won the 2022 elections, I hate to think what riots would follow.

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Date: 4/10/2022 02:11:33
From: dv
ID: 1940319
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

mollwollfumble said:


In 2021, there were massive nationwide protests and riots against president Bolsonaro.

He currently has 43.2% of the votes.

But thankfully that only places him second. If Bolsonaro won the 2022 elections, I hate to think what riots would follow.

Really?

You’re more worried about the protests than you are about a continued Bolsonaro government? So weird.

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Date: 31/10/2022 11:13:53
From: dv
ID: 1950698
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Welcome news.

Michael V said:


Pinko beats RWNJ Trump lookalike in Brazil.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-31/luiz-inacio-lula-da-silva-beats-jair-bolsonaro-in-brazil/101596302

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Date: 31/10/2022 12:06:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1950715
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:

Welcome news.

Michael V said:

Pinko beats RWNJ Trump lookalike in Brazil.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-31/luiz-inacio-lula-da-silva-beats-jair-bolsonaro-in-brazil/101596302

good

now watch as world police subsidise another coup

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Date: 31/10/2022 20:17:49
From: dv
ID: 1950895
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

You’ll be amazed to learn that Bolsonaro has not conceded.

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Date: 31/10/2022 20:18:21
From: party_pants
ID: 1950896
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:


You’ll be amazed to learn that Bolsonaro has not conceded.

Has he not been shot yet then?

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Date: 31/10/2022 20:27:37
From: Woodie
ID: 1950901
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:


You’ll be amazed to learn that Bolsonaro has not conceded.

The election a close shave was it?

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Date: 31/10/2022 21:09:53
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1950925
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Woodie said:


dv said:

You’ll be amazed to learn that Bolsonaro has not conceded.

The election a close shave was it?

Oh dear,

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Date: 9/01/2023 08:18:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1978023
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

dv said:

You’ll be amazed to learn that Bolsonaro has not conceded.

The election a close shave was it?

Oh dear,

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-09/pro-bolsonaro-protesters-storm-brazil-congress-in-capital/101836292

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Date: 11/01/2023 12:34:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1978930
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

https://www.wired.com/story/the-us-far-right-helped-stoke-the-attack-on-brazils-congress/
https://www.wired.com/story/twitters-moderation-system-is-in-tatters/

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Date: 31/07/2025 22:56:03
From: dv
ID: 2304274
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

On Wednesday (30), the United States sanctioned Brazil’s Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes under the Magnitsky Act. The measure, published by the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) of the U.S. Department of the Treasury, is unprecedented in targeting a Brazilian magistrate and deepens the diplomatic crisis between the two countries.

Created in 2012, the Magnitsky Act allows Washington to impose sanctions on foreign citizens accused of large-scale corruption or serious human rights violations. The name is a tribute to Russian lawyer Sergei Magnitsky, who died in prison after exposing a billion-dollar embezzlement scheme in Russia. In 2016, the scope of the law was expanded to cover global cases, making it one of the toughest tools in U.S. foreign policy.

Among the sanctions the act provides for are the freezing of assets in the United States and financial restrictions, as well as a ban on transactions with U.S. companies and citizens. The OFAC applies and monitors the measures.

The imposition of the sanction reignites a diplomatic crisis because it means direct U.S. interference in Brazilian internal affairs, attacking a judicial authority conducting investigations into the coup attempt of January 8, 2023, in which former President Jair Bolsonaro was utterly involved.

The government have classified the U.S. attempt to influence the Brazilian judiciary as “unacceptable interference,” especially since it comes amid the trade dispute triggered by Trump’s tariffs on Brazilian products.

The pressure to impose sanctions also met with resistance from the United States Treasury itself. Sources heard by the Washington Post said that some of the agency’s technicians warned of the risk of undermining U.S. credibility in defending democracy, since the sanction would be politically motivated, in retaliation for judicial decisions affecting Bolsonaro and his allies.

https://www.brasildefato.com.br/2025/07/30/u-s-sanctions-brazilian-justice-alexandre-de-moraes-based-on-the-magnitsky-act/

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Date: 31/07/2025 22:58:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2304276
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:

On Wednesday (30), the United States sanctioned Brazil’s Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes under the Magnitsky Act. The measure, published by the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) of the U.S. Department of the Treasury, is unprecedented in targeting a Brazilian magistrate and deepens the diplomatic crisis between the two countries.

Created in 2012, the Magnitsky Act allows Washington to impose sanctions on foreign citizens accused of large-scale corruption or serious human rights violations. The name is a tribute to Russian lawyer Sergei Magnitsky, who died in prison after exposing a billion-dollar embezzlement scheme in Russia. In 2016, the scope of the law was expanded to cover global cases, making it one of the toughest tools in U.S. foreign policy.

Among the sanctions the act provides for are the freezing of assets in the United States and financial restrictions, as well as a ban on transactions with U.S. companies and citizens. The OFAC applies and monitors the measures.

The imposition of the sanction reignites a diplomatic crisis because it means direct U.S. interference in Brazilian internal affairs, attacking a judicial authority conducting investigations into the coup attempt of January 8, 2023, in which former President Jair Bolsonaro was utterly involved.

The government have classified the U.S. attempt to influence the Brazilian judiciary as “unacceptable interference,” especially since it comes amid the trade dispute triggered by Trump’s tariffs on Brazilian products.

The pressure to impose sanctions also met with resistance from the United States Treasury itself. Sources heard by the Washington Post said that some of the agency’s technicians warned of the risk of undermining U.S. credibility in defending democracy, since the sanction would be politically motivated, in retaliation for judicial decisions affecting Bolsonaro and his allies.

https://www.brasildefato.com.br/2025/07/30/u-s-sanctions-brazilian-justice-alexandre-de-moraes-based-on-the-magnitsky-act/

I wonder how much of this is due to a vendetta by Trump against Brazil because of their treatment of their own clone of Trump, Bolisnaro?

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Date: 12/09/2025 17:52:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2315445
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

more rejoicing

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-12/brazil-bolsonaro-guilty-of-coup-charges/105765198

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Date: 25/11/2025 06:33:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2335353
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

sure sure

Bolsonaro said the medication he was taking for hiccups led him to imagine there was listening equipment inside the tracking device, and he used a soldering iron on it.

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Date: 16/12/2025 13:25:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2342090
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

alleged

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Date: 26/10/2026 11:46:55
From: dv
ID: 2442454
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

tfft

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Date: 26/10/2026 11:52:57
From: ruby
ID: 2442458
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:


tfft

Ahhhh. Nice. :)))

Trump is going to lash out after this result.

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Date: 26/10/2026 11:55:31
From: Michael V
ID: 2442460
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:


tfft

Good.

(But not good that it was close.)

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Date: 26/10/2026 11:56:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2442461
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

ruby said:

dv said:

tfft

Ahhhh. Nice. :)))

Trump is going to lash out after this result.

aota

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Date: 26/10/2026 12:06:29
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2442467
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:


tfft

Thanks be to Allah!

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Date: 26/10/2026 12:21:28
From: dv
ID: 2442477
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Michael V said:


dv said:

tfft

Good.

(But not good that it was close.)

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Date: 26/10/2026 12:25:48
From: Cymek
ID: 2442479
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

tfft

Thanks be to Allah!

I know the most tenuous time is that regrowth when its itchy and everyone is irritated

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Date: 26/10/2026 14:35:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2442531
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:


Michael V said:

dv said:

tfft

Good.

(But not good that it was close.)


:)

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Date: 26/10/2026 14:53:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2442546
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Michael V said:

dv said:

Michael V said:

Good.

(But not good that it was close.)


:)

we love it because the underlying implication is also that they’re actually the same thing

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Date: 27/10/2026 10:39:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2442806
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

wait but

https://theconversation.com/lula-wins-a-miracle-election-in-brazil-now-comes-the-hard-part-putting-the-country-back-on-the-right-track-295157

why do they need to put the country on the right track

surely it should be put on the left track

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Date: 27/10/2026 10:41:49
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2442808
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

SCIENCE said:

wait but

https://theconversation.com/lula-wins-a-miracle-election-in-brazil-now-comes-the-hard-part-putting-the-country-back-on-the-right-track-295157

why do they need to put the country on the right track

surely it should be put on the left track

He’s the encumbent.

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Date: 27/10/2026 10:52:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 2442811
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

SCIENCE said:

wait but

https://theconversation.com/lula-wins-a-miracle-election-in-brazil-now-comes-the-hard-part-putting-the-country-back-on-the-right-track-295157

why do they need to put the country on the right track

surely it should be put on the left track

Those on the left presume theirs is the correct track?

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Date: 27/10/2026 12:58:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2442865
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

wait but

https://theconversation.com/lula-wins-a-miracle-election-in-brazil-now-comes-the-hard-part-putting-the-country-back-on-the-right-track-295157

why do they need to put the country on the right track

surely it should be put on the left track

Those on the left presume theirs is the correct track?

“they rekt us”

wait

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Date: 28/10/2026 08:17:21
From: dv
ID: 2443111
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-28/flavio-bolsonaro-passport-brazil-presidential-election/107316922

lol

Remember when far right leaders fled to Brazil?

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Date: 28/10/2026 09:38:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2443120
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-28/flavio-bolsonaro-passport-brazil-presidential-election/107316922

lol

Remember when far right leaders fled to Brazil?

wait is losing an election a crime, why would one need to flee after losing a free fair flaviofavoured election

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Date: 28/10/2026 11:40:56
From: dv
ID: 2443136
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-28/flavio-bolsonaro-passport-brazil-presidential-election/107316922

lol

Remember when far right leaders fled to Brazil?

wait is losing an election a crime, why would one need to flee after losing a free fair flaviofavoured election

Losing an election isn’t a crime. Money laundering, embezzlement, and fraud are crimes. Failing to turn in his passport when so ordered by the Supreme court is also illegal.

Flavor Flav appears to have travelled first to Argentina and thence to the US but the Argentine govt says there’s no record of his passage.

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Date: 28/10/2026 11:46:24
From: Cymek
ID: 2443137
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

dv said:


SCIENCE said:

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-28/flavio-bolsonaro-passport-brazil-presidential-election/107316922

lol

Remember when far right leaders fled to Brazil?

wait is losing an election a crime, why would one need to flee after losing a free fair flaviofavoured election

Losing an election isn’t a crime. Money laundering, embezzlement, and fraud are crimes. Failing to turn in his passport when so ordered by the Supreme court is also illegal.

Flavor Flav appears to have travelled first to Argentina and thence to the US but the Argentine govt says there’s no record of his passage.

He could have been looking for really old Nazi’s they fled to Argentina after the war

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Date: 28/10/2026 12:25:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2443146
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

Cymek said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

wait is losing an election a crime, why would one need to flee after losing a free fair flaviofavoured election

Losing an election isn’t a crime. Money laundering, embezzlement, and fraud are crimes. Failing to turn in his passport when so ordered by the Supreme court is also illegal.

Flavor Flav appears to have travelled first to Argentina and thence to the US but the Argentine govt says there’s no record of his passage.

He could have been looking for really old Nazi’s they fled to Argentina after the war

so would he have fled if he had won the election

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Date: 28/10/2026 22:25:25
From: dv
ID: 2443340
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

https://thehill.com/policy/international/6176061-flavio-bolsonaro-flees-brazil-election-loss/

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Date: 28/10/2026 22:28:29
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2443341
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

That’ll be nice for Donny.

He’ll have another crypto-fascist wanna-be-a-dictator whose major talent is that everything he touches turns to shit to talk to.

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Date: 28/10/2026 22:31:19
From: party_pants
ID: 2443344
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

captain_spalding said:


That’ll be nice for Donny.

He’ll have another crypto-fascist wanna-be-a-dictator whose major talent is that everything he touches turns to shit to talk to.

I think he is the son of the said c-fw-b-a-d(wmtistehtts)

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Date: 28/10/2026 22:38:59
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2443345
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

party_pants said:


captain_spalding said:

That’ll be nice for Donny.

He’ll have another crypto-fascist wanna-be-a-dictator whose major talent is that everything he touches turns to shit to talk to.

I think he is the son of the said c-fw-b-a-d(wmtistehtts)

I’m sure that he’ll fit right in at Mar-A-Lago, anyway.

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Date: 28/10/2026 22:42:21
From: party_pants
ID: 2443346
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

captain_spalding said:


party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

That’ll be nice for Donny.

He’ll have another crypto-fascist wanna-be-a-dictator whose major talent is that everything he touches turns to shit to talk to.

I think he is the son of the said c-fw-b-a-d(wmtistehtts)

I’m sure that he’ll fit right in at Mar-A-Lago, anyway.

fit in as many as possible… then nuke from orbit

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Date: 29/10/2026 18:52:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2443582
Subject: re: Brazilian politics

damn it does seem like a good time to reexamine understandings of governance candidates who flee countries after losing to left wing governance candidates then cosy up to the ussa and claim to be the legitimate governance representatives of their country of origin

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