Couldn’t find an October thread.

COVID-19 origins ‘most likely zoonotic’, but experts find the world has ‘largely failed’ to prepare for the next pandemic
By medical reporter Sophie Scott and the Specialist Reporting Team’s Katherine Gregory
Almost three years into the COVID-19 pandemic, a team of international experts says the world has still not dealt with what it says is the “most likely” cause of the virus: animal-to-human transmission.

roughbarked said:

Couldn’t find an October thread.

COVID-19 origins ‘most likely zoonotic’, but experts find the world has ‘largely failed’ to prepare for the next pandemic
By medical reporter Sophie Scott and the Specialist Reporting Team’s Katherine Gregory
Almost three years into the COVID-19 pandemic, a team of international experts says the world has still not dealt with what it says is the “most likely” cause of the virus: animal-to-human transmission.

hope that’s not a distraction, i’m sure it’s not, no, couldn’t be

I don’t think the global program of living with the virus originated from a wet market, or a laboratory

roughbarked said:

Couldn’t find an October thread.

COVID-19 origins ‘most likely zoonotic’, but experts find the world has ‘largely failed’ to prepare for the next pandemic
By medical reporter Sophie Scott and the Specialist Reporting Team’s Katherine Gregory
Almost three years into the COVID-19 pandemic, a team of international experts says the world has still not dealt with what it says is the “most likely” cause of the virus: animal-to-human transmission.

Have they dealt with human-to-animal transmission yet?

That frightens me more.

And by the way, yes, many mammal species can catch Covid from humans.

As Omicron mutates wildly the virus shows first signs of convergent evolution

Unfortunately, it is converging on a variant that can evade current vaccines. This is apparently complicated by >>the body’s first exposure to a pathogen can leave a permanent immune imprint, or memory. This “original sin” can hinder our ability to fight that same pathogen if that pathogen begins to change its shape and become less recognizable. This is how the virus is mutating to evade our immune defenses.<<

>>several subvariants have already been detected with some of these mutations. Subvariants BQ.1.1 and XBB in particular were found to be the most immune evasive, escaping even Omicron-specific antibodies.<<

>>Cornelius Roemer, a viral evolution researcher based in Europe, has been at the forefront of chronicling the global growth of these new convergent variants. His monitoring has shown the more key RBD mutations in a subvariant, the faster its growth.

Roemer’s tracking suggests subvariants with four key RBD mutations may account for more than 30% of new viral samples up to the end of September. But add another two to three key RBD mutations and you see some extraordinary new subvariants (XBB, BQ.1.1 or BA.2.3.20) emerging and growing at rapid rates.<<

>>Marc Johnson describes the current emerging wave as more like a rising tide, and as all these subvariants converge on the same mutations we will see rising caseloads. And he says the rate of the virus mutating is “ridiculously fast.”<<

Lots more, plus an interesting read:

https://newatlas.com/science/omicron-mutates-convergent-evolution-original-antigenic-sin/

PermeateFree said:

As Omicron mutates wildly the virus shows first signs of convergent evolution
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Lots more, plus an interesting read:

https://newatlas.com/science/omicron-mutates-convergent-evolution-original-antigenic-sin/

cheers reading that

the mass stupid continues, for the convenience of those that like to travel around swapping air with little responsibility for health

transition said:

PermeateFree said:

As Omicron mutates wildly the virus shows first signs of convergent evolution
../cut by me master transition/..

Lots more, plus an interesting read:

https://newatlas.com/science/omicron-mutates-convergent-evolution-original-antigenic-sin/

cheers reading that

the mass stupid continues, for the convenience of those that like to travel around swapping air with little responsibility for health

next up in genius, “diversification includes convergence at times so we win, pandemic is over, we’ll all be immune, this is the last wave, we can call prevention restriction and do nothing to help” while the tide comes in laugh out loud

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

PermeateFree said:

As Omicron mutates wildly the virus shows first signs of convergent evolution
../cut by me master transition/..

Lots more, plus an interesting read:

https://newatlas.com/science/omicron-mutates-convergent-evolution-original-antigenic-sin/

cheers reading that

the mass stupid continues, for the convenience of those that like to travel around swapping air with little responsibility for health

next up in genius, “diversification includes convergence at times so we win, pandemic is over, we’ll all be immune, this is the last wave, we can call prevention restriction and do nothing to help” while the tide comes in laugh out loud

The article says quite the reverse, so you should be rejoicing.

PermeateFree said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

cheers reading that

the mass stupid continues, for the convenience of those that like to travel around swapping air with little responsibility for health

next up in genius, “diversification includes convergence at times so we win, pandemic is over, we’ll all be immune, this is the last wave, we can call prevention restriction and do nothing to help” while the tide comes in laugh out loud

The article says quite the reverse, so you should be rejoicing.

you’re right remember how the experts told us that endemic merely means a fairly constant load of suffering and nobody then twisted that to say that constant means low and the pandemic is over and it’s mild and we can live like normal because we won’t die earlier than normal less healthy than normal

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

PermeateFree said:

As Omicron mutates wildly the virus shows first signs of convergent evolution
../cut by me master transition/..

Lots more, plus an interesting read:

https://newatlas.com/science/omicron-mutates-convergent-evolution-original-antigenic-sin/

cheers reading that

the mass stupid continues, for the convenience of those that like to travel around swapping air with little responsibility for health

next up in genius, “diversification includes convergence at times so we win, pandemic is over, we’ll all be immune, this is the last wave, we can call prevention restriction and do nothing to help” while the tide comes in laugh out loud

mass unlimited covid could be one of the most stupid things the species ever did, possibly already is, but you know as long as better data and evidence is coming in for that it remains unconfirmed, unproven

so what you do is accelerate the research into the stupid, it makes what you previously knew sort of subordinate or redundant history, a redundant perspective

yeah’s an accelerationist stupid, and everyone is being seduced into the accelerationism, the force of culture that way, inclined to worship it

but for some truth you might consult your dead great great grandmother, at least she hasn’t bought the notion truth is dead, that reality is some contemporary social construction

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

PermeateFree said:

SCIENCE said:

next up in genius, “diversification includes convergence at times so we win, pandemic is over, we’ll all be immune, this is the last wave, we can call prevention restriction and do nothing to help” while the tide comes in laugh out loud

The article says quite the reverse, so you should be rejoicing.

you’re right remember how the experts told us that endemic merely means a fairly constant load of suffering and nobody then twisted that to say that constant means low and the pandemic is over and it’s mild and we can live like normal because we won’t die earlier than normal less healthy than normal

mass unlimited covid could be one of the most stupid things the species ever did, possibly already is, but you know as long as better data and evidence is coming in for that it remains unconfirmed, unproven

so what you do is accelerate the research into the stupid, it makes what you previously knew sort of subordinate or redundant history, a redundant perspective

yeah’s an accelerationist stupid, and everyone is being seduced into the accelerationism, the force of culture that way, inclined to worship it

but for some truth you might consult your dead great great grandmother, at least she hasn’t bought the notion truth is dead, that reality is some contemporary social construction

Laugh Out Loud

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-11/cmo-paul-kelly-downplayed-long-covid-says-medical-specialist/101522054

“A sensible person who trusts the government thinks that long COVID is not within the realm of possibility for them,” she said. “If I was a person who knew that if I got sick, I had a 5 per cent chance of having something pretty horrible, I might weigh that up in whether I get on a train without a mask.”

remember how the experts told us that 5% rate of disability would be wholly fucked and nobody then twisted that to say that 95% is excellent odds and we should party like we’ll never be able to party again oh wait because if we get maimed the next time maybe we actually can’t oh shit

SCIENCE said:

PermeateFree said:

SCIENCE said:

next up in genius, “diversification includes convergence at times so we win, pandemic is over, we’ll all be immune, this is the last wave, we can call prevention restriction and do nothing to help” while the tide comes in laugh out loud

The article says quite the reverse, so you should be rejoicing.

you’re right remember how the experts told us that endemic merely means a fairly constant load of suffering and nobody then twisted that to say that constant means low and the pandemic is over and it’s mild and we can live like normal because we won’t die earlier than normal less healthy than normal

I take it you did not read the article.

PermeateFree said:

SCIENCE said:

PermeateFree said:

The article says quite the reverse, so you should be rejoicing.

you’re right remember how the experts told us that endemic merely means a fairly constant load of suffering and nobody then twisted that to say that constant means low and the pandemic is over and it’s mild and we can live like normal because we won’t die earlier than normal less healthy than normal

I take it you did not read the article.

we take it you miss our point

but sure we’ll entertain the affront, what’s your take away interpretation

SCIENCE said:

PermeateFree said:

SCIENCE said:

you’re right remember how the experts told us that endemic merely means a fairly constant load of suffering and nobody then twisted that to say that constant means low and the pandemic is over and it’s mild and we can live like normal because we won’t die earlier than normal less healthy than normal

I take it you did not read the article.

we take it you miss our point

but sure we’ll entertain the affront, what’s your take away interpretation

The way you post it is not surprising that I and I would imagine many others would miss your point. It would help if you just presented the facts instead of a mumbled mixture of words that can be interpreted in multiple ways.

PermeateFree said:

SCIENCE said:

PermeateFree said:

I take it you did not read the article.

we take it you miss our point

but sure we’ll entertain the affront, what’s your take away interpretation

The way you post it is not surprising that I and I would imagine many others would miss your point. It would help if you just presented the facts instead of a mumbled mixture of words that can be interpreted in multiple ways.

so what’s your interpretation of the article that we supposedly didn’t read then, c’m‘on, commit to a position that one could defend or attack logically

but separately yes PermeateFree advances a fair concern as mentioned in https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1942724/ that

the historian claimed she had missed what he thought was obvious cynicism in his book

as in clearly when our statements of fact have been inconsequential then we’ve taken to entertaining ourselves with the have to laugh or you’d cry bits, so we say again for those in the back

ah fk well for the record as you all know everything we write in the infection threads should be taken with a galactic grain of irony sarcasm cynicism and until further notice you should assume our default position is to oppose infection and dementiavirus and public health abandonment

SCIENCE said:

PermeateFree said:

SCIENCE said:

we take it you miss our point

but sure we’ll entertain the affront, what’s your take away interpretation

The way you post it is not surprising that I and I would imagine many others would miss your point. It would help if you just presented the facts instead of a mumbled mixture of words that can be interpreted in multiple ways.

so what’s your interpretation of the article that we supposedly didn’t read then, c’m‘on, commit to a position that one could defend or attack logically

but separately yes PermeateFree advances a fair concern as mentioned in https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1942724/ that

the historian claimed she had missed what he thought was obvious cynicism in his book

as in clearly when our statements of fact have been inconsequential then we’ve taken to entertaining ourselves with the have to laugh or you’d cry bits, so we say again for those in the back

ah fk well for the record as you all know everything we write in the infection threads should be taken with a galactic grain of irony sarcasm cynicism and until further notice you should assume our default position is to oppose infection and dementiavirus and public health abandonment

Please carry on in your distorted view and misinterpretation, but I shall excuse myself, for to respond would be giving into your fantasy.

SCIENCE said:

PermeateFree said:

SCIENCE said:

we take it you miss our point

but sure we’ll entertain the affront, what’s your take away interpretation

The way you post it is not surprising that I and I would imagine many others would miss your point. It would help if you just presented the facts instead of a mumbled mixture of words that can be interpreted in multiple ways.

so what’s your interpretation of the article that we supposedly didn’t read then, c’m‘on, commit to a position that one could defend or attack logically

but separately yes PermeateFree advances a fair concern as mentioned in https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1942724/ that

the historian claimed she had missed what he thought was obvious cynicism in his book

as in clearly when our statements of fact have been inconsequential then we’ve taken to entertaining ourselves with the have to laugh or you’d cry bits, so we say again for those in the back

ah fk well for the record as you all know everything we write in the infection threads should be taken with a galactic grain of irony sarcasm cynicism and until further notice you should assume our default position is to oppose infection and dementiavirus and public health abandonment

some prefer it that the intention should never be at variance with or any more than the literal propositional content, otherwise you risk thinking about thinking and all sorts of cognitive debauchery

PermeateFree said:

Please carry on in your distorted view and misinterpretation, but I shall excuse myself, for to respond would be giving into your fantasy.

thanks we thought h’ colours had improved but yet again this fella wanted to argue, but at least it’s good rhetorical practice

transition said:

some prefer it that the intention should never be at variance with or any more than the literal propositional content, otherwise you risk thinking about thinking and all sorts of cognitive debauchery

That’s UnAustralian

SCIENCE said:

PermeateFree said:

Please carry on in your distorted view and misinterpretation, but I shall excuse myself, for to respond would be giving into your fantasy.

thanks we thought h’ colours had improved but yet again this fella wanted to argue, but at least it’s good rhetorical practice

I would just like to know what you are talking about, rather than trying to untangle your mind.

PermeateFree said:

SCIENCE said:

PermeateFree said:

Please carry on in your distorted view and misinterpretation, but I shall excuse myself, for to respond would be giving into your fantasy.

thanks we thought h’ colours had improved but yet again this fella wanted to argue, but at least it’s good rhetorical practice

I would just like to know what you are talking about, rather than trying to untangle your mind.

fair enough we’ll endeavour to include more explanatory notes especially for our worst bouts of maniacal laughter, but y’all’ll have to have some patience and give some leeway ‘cause it’ll take some practice and there’s always the possibility of relapse

https://www.actuaries.digital/2022/10/06/covid-19-high-excess-mortality-continues-into-june-2022/

ellipsis

ellipsis

SCIENCE said:

ellipsis

el oopsies

meanwhile this so-called expert thinks that antiviral medications can’t work if you vomit them back up

but obviously such so-called experts don’t know that you can shove the medication up the arse

oh shit

shit

do diseases that cause vomiting also often cause diarrhoea

wait

SCIENCE said:

like fucken crosseyed derrr

get yaself some covid-induced disability, mate

probably a leading cause of disability

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variants_of_SARS-CoV-2

had me quick read of that^

transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variants_of_SARS-CoV-2

had me quick read of that^

thanks, and we apologise for slipping across threads so we take everyone back to

https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/16280/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-14/covid-19-coronavirus-mandatory-isolation-ends-live-updates/101532200

and I just immersed myself briefly in the, well, the words cryptic death cult came to mind for some reason, not sure why, who knows how minds work

so apparently 3 dose SARS-CoV-2 vaccination is like a shield worth 20 years of age equivalent protection