….for example. We never hear about projects like this.
Will Australia ever invest in significant interplanetary space probes, like the other rich countries?
B.C. give bubbles his handle back.
Not that many countries try this sort of stuff.
sibeen said:
B.C. give bubbles his handle back.Not that many countries try this sort of stuff.
Looks like SciForums is either down or defunct. B.C. will have to find another home.
There does not appear to be a Monaro or Torana doing burnouts in this particular photo, but if enough people crowdfunded enough money, I could maybe get one there to entertain the locals.
Kingy said:
There does not appear to be a Monaro or Torana doing burnouts in this particular photo, but if enough people crowdfunded enough money, I could maybe get one there to entertain the locals.
A Torana will melt just sitting still.
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
There does not appear to be a Monaro or Torana doing burnouts in this particular photo, but if enough people crowdfunded enough money, I could maybe get one there to entertain the locals.
A Torana will melt just sitting still.
Yeah, the radiator might struggle to lose 80 Celsius in a 500C atmosphere.
So are we pulling our weight in scientific space missions, or are other rich nations thinking: “Those Aussies, I don’t know. They seem to regard scientific curiosity as an unaffordable luxury.”
Bubblecar said:
So are we pulling our weight in scientific space missions, or are other rich nations thinking: “Those Aussies, I don’t know. They seem to regard scientific curiosity as an unaffordable luxury.”
The best we can do is join in some other multi-national plan. Trouble is that there aren’t too msny of those programs about.
Shit, not even the USA go for hard stuff like this. There’s been one country that successfully put down a Venus and that country doesn’t exist any more.
Long lived lander on Titan would be nice too.
dv said:
Shit, not even the USA go for hard stuff like this. There’s been one country that successfully put down a Venus and that country doesn’t exist any more.Long lived lander on Titan would be nice too.
what about Europa?
dv said:
Shit, not even the USA go for hard stuff like this. There’s been one country that successfully put down a Venus and that country doesn’t exist any more.Long lived lander on Titan would be nice too.
Yes I’d prefer that actually.
You don’t bother landing on Venus.
Descend into the cloud, slow down, deploy a chute then inflate a balloon.
The probe could sit in the Venusian atmosphere at around 1 Bar ( earth’s atmospheric pressure) at around 25/ 20 deg. There would still be sulphuric acid floating around but it would be small amounts ( most of it would be below). The clouds would protect the probe from solar radiation.
Various experiments could be performed including taking a sample of the atmosphere.
At a some point the probe drops from the balloon, fires a motor and goes into orbit to meet with a mother ship to return to earth.
And anyway, Australian Venus lander ?
We don’t make rockets or precious little space hardware. Any money into an Australian space programme was swallowed by administration staff.
ChrispenEvan said:
dv said:
Shit, not even the USA go for hard stuff like this. There’s been one country that successfully put down a Venus and that country doesn’t exist any more.Long lived lander on Titan would be nice too.
what about Europa?
You know the rules, and so do I
dv said:
ChrispenEvan said:
dv said:
Shit, not even the USA go for hard stuff like this. There’s been one country that successfully put down a Venus and that country doesn’t exist any more.Long lived lander on Titan would be nice too.
what about Europa?
You know the rules, and so do I
we could hover.
wookiemeister said:
You don’t bother landing on Venus.Descend into the cloud, slow down, deploy a chute then inflate a balloon.
The probe could sit in the Venusian atmosphere at around 1 Bar ( earth’s atmospheric pressure) at around 25/ 20 deg. There would still be sulphuric acid floating around but it would be small amounts ( most of it would be below). The clouds would protect the probe from solar radiation.
Various experiments could be performed including taking a sample of the atmosphere.
At a some point the probe drops from the balloon, fires a motor and goes into orbit to meet with a mother ship to return to earth.
Higher pressure than 1 bar. At 1 bar you’re still within the permanent cloud band.
A little higher pressure and temperature and you’re below the cloud deck with a bird’s eye view of the surface. You could photograph a lot of the surface in multispectral imaging drifting for 24 hours beneath the clouds, or 48 hours.
As for the surface, about 20 years ago I started a thread called “let’s send a toilet to Venus” where I proposed a ceramic spacecraft lander. Ceramics can very easily take the pressure, temperature and corrosive atmosphere on the surface of Venus.
The sensitive electrical and electronic components could be store within a sealed cavity with a piston (toilet humour) to allow the pressure increase, because solid state electronics are immune to high pressure. And protect against the corrosive atmosphere.
The one and only problem with a Venus lander is getting a battery that will survive the heat. NASA is working on that, and is just about there. Some batteries already can survive temperatures very much hotter than the surface of the Earth.
dv said:
ChrispenEvan said:
dv said:
Shit, not even the USA go for hard stuff like this. There’s been one country that successfully put down a Venus and that country doesn’t exist any more.Long lived lander on Titan would be nice too.
what about Europa?
You know the rules, and so do I
You could officially change the moons name
Cymek said:
dv said:
ChrispenEvan said:what about Europa?
You know the rules, and so do I
You could officially change the moons name
a rose by any other name will still prick you.