Christian Porter proposes to his high-flying criminal lawyer girlfriend with a huge diamond ring – less than two years after splitting from his second wife and the mum to his kids

Joe Biden gets lost in his own garden: More worrying footage shows president ask ‘where do we go?’ and look confused after tree planting event for White House groundskeeper

wookiemeister said:

Joe Biden gets lost in his own garden: More worrying footage shows president ask ‘where do we go?’ and look confused after tree planting event for White House groundskeeper

Even if he gets lost in a phone box, he’s STILL a better President than Trump ever was.

wookiemeister said:

Christian Porter proposes to his high-flying criminal lawyer girlfriend with a huge diamond ring – less than two years after splitting from his second wife and the mum to his kids

He roots around a lot. Hope he bumps his piggy snout on a sharp stick.

power prices up 20 percent this year, 50 percent next year

you can’t import 200,000 new people and not have black outs

make power more expensive

1 you collect more taxes

2 more revenue means you can borrow more money

3 you can blow another few billion on foreign wars

wookiemeister said:

power prices up 20 percent this year, 50 percent next year

bull shit.

my power bills have been $0.00 for the last 4 months, and I still have enough credit to cover half of my next bill.

party_pants said:

wookiemeister said:

power prices up 20 percent this year, 50 percent next year

bull shit.

my power bills have been $0.00 for the last 4 months, and I still have enough credit to cover half of my next bill.

As part of this, Treasury is assuming a 20% increase in electricity bills by mid next-year, and a further 30% by July 2024. It also expects gas to increase by 20% over the next two years.

https://theconversation.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-labors-first-budget-in-6-charts-192851

JudgeMental said:

party_pants said:

wookiemeister said:

power prices up 20 percent this year, 50 percent next year

bull shit.

my power bills have been $0.00 for the last 4 months, and I still have enough credit to cover half of my next bill.

As part of this, Treasury is assuming a 20% increase in electricity bills by mid next-year, and a further 30% by July 2024. It also expects gas to increase by 20% over the next two years.

https://theconversation.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-labors-first-budget-in-6-charts-192851

i’m glad you had the strength to do this

I have to say, the ingenuity, effort, and sheer brass is admirable:

captain_spalding said:

I have to say, the ingenuity, effort, and sheer brass is admirable:

A capitalistic communist?

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

I have to say, the ingenuity, effort, and sheer brass is admirable:

A capitalistic communist?

When I was in central China in 2005 we were besieged by good communists flogging supposed bits of the Great Wall.

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

I have to say, the ingenuity, effort, and sheer brass is admirable:

A capitalistic communist?

When I was in central China in 2005 we were besieged by good communists flogging supposed bits of the Great Wall.

‘Psst. Foreign devil. Want to buy Chairman Mao’s crayons?

captain_spalding said:

I have to say, the ingenuity, effort, and sheer brass is admirable:

Good one.

You can still get pieces of the hut that Mary McKillop was born in from PeterT Ministries.

Peak Warming Man said:

You can still get pieces of the hut that Mary McKillop was born in from PeterT Ministries.

A man on the street once sold me Steve Irwin’s finger for 50 bucks, bargain !

I bought one of Lukashenko’s balls on ebay

Peak Warming Man said:

You can still get pieces of the hut that Mary McKillop was born in from PeterT Ministries.

Maybe pieces of the true cross from the Vatican

dv said:

I bought one of Lukashenko’s balls on ebay

You can buy mozart’s balls in salzburg.

Get ready for SNOWVEMBER! Next month is set to bring snow showers after brief Indian summer with 21C warmth hitting this week
Brits will enjoy unseasonably warm weather this week with temperatures reaching 21C by Thursday
The Indian summer will come to an end though as next month brings colder days, chillier nights, mist and fog
By mid-November snow showers are expected in north and western parts of the country, the Met Office says

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11355931/Snow-showers-month-brief-Indian-summer-21C-warmth-hits-week.html

Afghan commandos trained by Allied forces are being recruited by RUSSIA to fight in Ukraine after they were abandoned by the West when country fell to the Taliban

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11356165/Afghan-commandos-trained-Allied-forces-recruited-RUSSIA-fight-Ukraine.html

Government is spending £5.6m EVERY DAY in hotel bills for asylum seekers: Home Office has processed just 4% of 38,000 Channel migrants in 12 months – as it emerges French authorities stopped just 42.5% of crossings

wow 2 billion a year on looking after known asylum seekers – that’s a nice tidy sum

Liz’s team are in line for honours… after just 44 days’ work: Aide ‘pushed for advisers to get knighthoods’ following seven weeks in the job with ex-PM in line for £115k a year as she puts her out of office on

5 days

Kiev 15 / 9 rain
Kherson 17/9 cloudy
Kharkiv 12/8 rain
Lviv 14/7 partly cloudy

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/26/energy/europe-natural-gas-prices-plunge/index.html

Europe now has so much natural gas that prices just dipped below zero

——

Is there a risk that Europeans will be too warm this winter because of the abundance of gas?

Apart from the Russians of course, they’ll be sleeping in the cold mud praying for relief.

Kingy said:

Good one, Kingy.

Kingy said:

Worth quoting.

Dark Orange said:

Kingy said:

Worth quoting.

The parallels with Moscow’s ‘reasons’ and the ‘justifications’ for what happened in 1938 and 1939 were readily apparent from Day 1 to even casual students of modern history.

captain_spalding said:

Dark Orange said:

Kingy said:

Worth quoting.

The parallels with Moscow’s ‘reasons’ and the ‘justifications’ for what happened in 1938 and 1939 were readily apparent from Day 1 to even casual students of modern history.

It’s ironic they are acting like the Nazi’s

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Dark Orange said:

Worth quoting.

The parallels with Moscow’s ‘reasons’ and the ‘justifications’ for what happened in 1938 and 1939 were readily apparent from Day 1 to even casual students of modern history.

It’s ironic they are acting like the Nazi’s

Just taking lessons out of the history book.

Remember, invading Ukraine was supposed to be a ‘blitzkrieg’ operation, 3-4 days, a week at the outside. And blitzkrieg worked well for the Nazis in the early days.

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Dark Orange said:

Worth quoting.

The parallels with Moscow’s ‘reasons’ and the ‘justifications’ for what happened in 1938 and 1939 were readily apparent from Day 1 to even casual students of modern history.

It’s ironic they are acting like the Nazi’s

In a further twist to the turn of fate, the Russians are about to fiscover what caused the failure of Nazi’s who try to attack during winter while supply lines are failing.

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

The parallels with Moscow’s ‘reasons’ and the ‘justifications’ for what happened in 1938 and 1939 were readily apparent from Day 1 to even casual students of modern history.

It’s ironic they are acting like the Nazi’s

In a further twist to the turn of fate, the Russians are about to discover what caused the failure of Nazi’s who try to attack during winter while supply lines are failing.

Yes. The Ukrainians can read history books, too. They’ve been making big efforts to upset Russian supply routes, particularly rail transport on which the Russians rely heavily.

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

The parallels with Moscow’s ‘reasons’ and the ‘justifications’ for what happened in 1938 and 1939 were readily apparent from Day 1 to even casual students of modern history.

It’s ironic they are acting like the Nazi’s

In a further twist to the turn of fate, the Russians are about to fiscover what caused the failure of Nazi’s who try to attack during winter while supply lines are failing.

Yes I thought that myself

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

It’s ironic they are acting like the Nazi’s

In a further twist to the turn of fate, the Russians are about to fiscover what caused the failure of Nazi’s who try to attack during winter while supply lines are failing.

Yes I thought that myself

fiscover eh?

My typing skills seem to be falling by the wayside.

Ukraine before-and-after satellite images reveal damage to more than 200 historic sites from Russian strikes

More missile strikes on energy infrastructure

Strategy:

Waves of missiles hit energy Infrastructure
Russians wait and watch infrastructure being repaired for a day or so
Two days later the missiles hit the energy system undoing the repairs / work around.

This has been going on for a few weeks now. The plan seems to be to knock out the transport system ( electric locomotives that run off power lines). The Ukrainian railway gas a different gauge so the west can’t replace them with their locomotives/ rail stock.

wookiemeister said:

More missile strikes on energy infrastructure

Strategy:

Waves of missiles hit energy Infrastructure
Russians wait and watch infrastructure being repaired for a day or so
Two days later the missiles hit the energy system undoing the repairs / work around.

This has been going on for a few weeks now. The plan seems to be to knock out the transport system ( electric locomotives that run off power lines). The Ukrainian railway gas a different gauge so the west can’t replace them with their locomotives/ rail stock.

Reference?

dv said:

wookiemeister said:

More missile strikes on energy infrastructure

Strategy:

Waves of missiles hit energy Infrastructure
Russians wait and watch infrastructure being repaired for a day or so
Two days later the missiles hit the energy system undoing the repairs / work around.

This has been going on for a few weeks now. The plan seems to be to knock out the transport system ( electric locomotives that run off power lines). The Ukrainian railway gas a different gauge so the west can’t replace them with their locomotives/ rail stock.

Reference?

A little wriggly thing inside his head told him so.

wookiemeister said:

More missile strikes on energy infrastructure

Strategy:

Waves of missiles hit energy Infrastructure
Russians wait and watch infrastructure being repaired for a day or so
Two days later the missiles hit the energy system undoing the repairs / work around.

This has been going on for a few weeks now. The plan seems to be to knock out the transport system ( electric locomotives that run off power lines). The Ukrainian railway gas a different gauge so the west can’t replace them with their locomotives/ rail stock.

Y’know whose rail transport has really been taking a bruising lately?

Hint: name starts with ‘R’.

dv said:

wookiemeister said:

More missile strikes on energy infrastructure

Strategy:

Waves of missiles hit energy Infrastructure
Russians wait and watch infrastructure being repaired for a day or so
Two days later the missiles hit the energy system undoing the repairs / work around.

This has been going on for a few weeks now. The plan seems to be to knock out the transport system ( electric locomotives that run off power lines). The Ukrainian railway gas a different gauge so the west can’t replace them with their locomotives/ rail stock.

Reference?

All the more reason to rebuild the destroyed rail network in NATO gauge.

1 – Cheap “Western” gauge rolling stock.
2. A gauge incompatible with the hostile nation on their eastern border.
3. Russia will be paying for the rebuild anyway.

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

wookiemeister said:

More missile strikes on energy infrastructure

Strategy:

Waves of missiles hit energy Infrastructure
Russians wait and watch infrastructure being repaired for a day or so
Two days later the missiles hit the energy system undoing the repairs / work around.

This has been going on for a few weeks now. The plan seems to be to knock out the transport system ( electric locomotives that run off power lines). The Ukrainian railway gas a different gauge so the west can’t replace them with their locomotives/ rail stock.

Reference?

A little wriggly thing inside his head told him so.

Seems that way.

The couple of hundred bill in frozen Russian funds will pay for the reconstruction of the Ukraine railways to standard gauge in the fullness of time.

2 days to winter

Kiev 14/7 rain
Kherson 17/8 cloudy
Kharkiv 12/7 cloudy
Lviv 19/ 9 some rain

wookiemeister said:

2 days to winter

Kiev 14/7 rain
Kherson 17/8 cloudy
Kharkiv 12/7 cloudy
Lviv 19/ 9 some rain

Them poor freezing Russians.

So sad. Too bad. Never mind.

Dark Orange said:

wookiemeister said:

2 days to winter

Kiev 14/7 rain
Kherson 17/8 cloudy
Kharkiv 12/7 cloudy
Lviv 19/ 9 some rain

Them poor freezing Russians.

So sad. Too bad. Never mind.

Weather on the eastern front changes the dynamic of a war ( as Napoleon and Hitler discovered). I’m sure we will be fine ( having never win a war since 1950 – Malaya, not korea).

First comes the mud, then comes the frost, then comes the ice.

Ukraine had been (IMO) overly critical of Israel’s hesitance to supply Iron Dome. Then there was a meeting and Ukraine was happy, and started achieving a much higher hit rate on the drones.

And now it seems it was more than a folder of drone specs that was given to the ukes, if reports of Israel taking out a cargo plane full of drones at Damascas airport are true.

Hmm… Russia’s head of propaganda has died at a shooting range when she was hit with a “stray bullet”.

Dark Orange said:

Ukraine had been (IMO) overly critical of Israel’s hesitance to supply Iron Dome. Then there was a meeting and Ukraine was happy, and started achieving a much higher hit rate on the drones.

And now it seems it was more than a folder of drone specs that was given to the ukes, if reports of Israel taking out a cargo plane full of drones at Damascas airport are true.

We’ll see what happens

Sure – keep provoking a country 6000 nukes that just wants to sell you oil.

Dark Orange said:

Hmm… Russia’s head of propaganda has died at a shooting range when she was hit with a “stray bullet”.

Oh geez

It makes you wonder doesn’t it ? I’m surprised he didn’t fall from a window.

wookiemeister said:

Dark Orange said:

wookiemeister said:

2 days to winter

Kiev 14/7 rain
Kherson 17/8 cloudy
Kharkiv 12/7 cloudy
Lviv 19/ 9 some rain

Them poor freezing Russians.

So sad. Too bad. Never mind.

Weather on the eastern front changes the dynamic of a war ( as Napoleon and Hitler discovered). I’m sure we will be fine ( having never win a war since 1950 – Malaya, not korea).

First comes the mud, then comes the frost, then comes the ice.

The Russians are about to learn all about it.

Dark Orange said:

Hmm… Russia’s head of propaganda has died at a shooting range when she was hit with a “stray bullet”.

Are there stray bullets?
Hmmm.

wookiemeister said:

Dark Orange said:

Ukraine had been (IMO) overly critical of Israel’s hesitance to supply Iron Dome. Then there was a meeting and Ukraine was happy, and started achieving a much higher hit rate on the drones.

And now it seems it was more than a folder of drone specs that was given to the ukes, if reports of Israel taking out a cargo plane full of drones at Damascas airport are true.

We’ll see what happens

Sure – keep provoking a country 6000 nukes that just wants to sell you oil.

Oil and gas are soo yesterday.

wookiemeister said:

Dark Orange said:

Hmm… Russia’s head of propaganda has died at a shooting range when she was hit with a “stray bullet”.

Oh geez

It makes you wonder doesn’t it ? I’m surprised he didn’t fall from a window.

There is the small fact of an s

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

Dark Orange said:

Them poor freezing Russians.

So sad. Too bad. Never mind.

Weather on the eastern front changes the dynamic of a war ( as Napoleon and Hitler discovered). I’m sure we will be fine ( having never win a war since 1950 – Malaya, not korea).

First comes the mud, then comes the frost, then comes the ice.

The Russians are about to learn all about it.

The russians have had plenty of experience of the Russian winter – they live there.

They got their arses kicked in Finland due to the Incompetence of the soviets. The soviets are gone and were actually still persisting when Finland realised the jig was up. America was in Afghanistan for 20 years ( and could have continued another 20 if ukraine hadn’t popped up – another brand new war).

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

Dark Orange said:

Ukraine had been (IMO) overly critical of Israel’s hesitance to supply Iron Dome. Then there was a meeting and Ukraine was happy, and started achieving a much higher hit rate on the drones.

And now it seems it was more than a folder of drone specs that was given to the ukes, if reports of Israel taking out a cargo plane full of drones at Damascas airport are true.

We’ll see what happens

Sure – keep provoking a country 6000 nukes that just wants to sell you oil.

Oil and gas are soo yesterday.

Try and stop using oil and gas for one day

Let me know how that goes

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

Dark Orange said:

Hmm… Russia’s head of propaganda has died at a shooting range when she was hit with a “stray bullet”.

Oh geez

It makes you wonder doesn’t it ? I’m surprised he didn’t fall from a window.

There is the small fact of an s

Did you just assume roughbark ?

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

Oh geez

It makes you wonder doesn’t it ? I’m surprised he didn’t fall from a window.

There is the small fact of an s

Did you just assume roughbark ?

~when she was

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Hmm… Russia’s head of propaganda has died at a shooting range when she was hit with a “stray bullet”.

Are there stray bullets?
Hmmm.

One less, now she gave it somewhere to settle.

Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Hmm… Russia’s head of propaganda has died at a shooting range when she was hit with a “stray bullet”.

Are there stray bullets?
Hmmm.

One less, now she gave it somewhere to settle.

That movie set bullet was a bit astray.

…and in other news, Norway just arrested a Russian spy – GRU Colonal, Mikhail Mikushin.

Dark Orange said:

…and in other news, Norway just arrested a Russian spy – GRU Colonal, Mikhail Mikushin.

And the Great Game continues.

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

Weather on the eastern front changes the dynamic of a war ( as Napoleon and Hitler discovered). I’m sure we will be fine ( having never win a war since 1950 – Malaya, not korea).

First comes the mud, then comes the frost, then comes the ice.

The Russians are about to learn all about it.

The russians have had plenty of experience of the Russian winter – they live there.

They got their arses kicked in Finland due to the Incompetence of the soviets. The soviets are gone and were actually still persisting when Finland realised the jig was up. America was in Afghanistan for 20 years ( and could have continued another 20 if ukraine hadn’t popped up – another brand new war).

But they aren’t in Russia. They are in Ukraine.

Dark Orange said:

…and in other news, Norway just arrested a Russian spy – GRU Colonal, Mikhail Mikushin.

There will be more. Don’t stop with one.

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

The Russians are about to learn all about it.

The russians have had plenty of experience of the Russian winter – they live there.

They got their arses kicked in Finland due to the Incompetence of the soviets. The soviets are gone and were actually still persisting when Finland realised the jig was up. America was in Afghanistan for 20 years ( and could have continued another 20 if ukraine hadn’t popped up – another brand new war).

But they aren’t in Russia. They are in Ukraine.

Indeed. A country that has an economy. A country with lots of supportive allies. A country that has a military that has proven to be capable and adaptable. A country that doesn’t want them there.

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

…and in other news, Norway just arrested a Russian spy – GRU Colonal, Mikhail Mikushin.

There will be more. Don’t stop with one.

It’s not like they were difficult to track down. Within an hour of the news being released, OSINT (open source intelligence – twitter researchers, essentially) had gotten the guy’s real name, address, travel history, and had found and hacked his email accounts to build up a profile on the dude.

Remember when the Russians gave their spies sequential passport numbers? They are slipping.

wookiemeister said:

We’ll see what happens

Sure – keep provoking a country 6000 nukes that just wants to sell you oil.

Russia just wants to sell oil to Ukraine?

When you have to invade your customers to get them to buy your product, you should probably have a serious talk with your marketing department.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

We’ll see what happens

Sure – keep provoking a country 6000 nukes that just wants to sell you oil.

Russia just wants to sell oil to Ukraine?

When you have to invade your customers to get them to buy your product, you should probably have a serious talk with your marketing department.

Ukraine is a poor and corrupt nation

It got its money from transit money

As it is ukraine as we know it was created by the soviet union. People leave ukraine because its been fucked.

Anyway missile season continues and thr ground is getting wet, soon it will be cold.

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

We’ll see what happens

Sure – keep provoking a country 6000 nukes that just wants to sell you oil.

Russia just wants to sell oil to Ukraine?

When you have to invade your customers to get them to buy your product, you should probably have a serious talk with your marketing department.

Ukraine is a poor and corrupt nation

It got its money from transit money

As it is ukraine as we know it was created by the soviet union. People leave ukraine because its been fucked.

The real reason POOtin wants Ukraine is the resources. It is a rich country. Old shitcan thinks that he wants to take all their money as well as that of his own countrymen. Other people are not to have money. It all belongs to dunny can.

roughbarked said:

The real reason POOtin wants Ukraine is the resources. It is a rich country. Old shitcan thinks that he wants to take all their money as well as that of his own countrymen. Other people are not to have money. It all belongs to dunny can.

That’s a big prize for Putin, one of the big attractions in launching the invasion.

Ukraine has vast amounts of coal, gas, oil shale, manganese and titanium. And a lot of other stuff, in somewhat smaller amounts, besides.

If the original three/four day ‘blitzkrieg’ to the Polish border had been successful, then Russia would have quickly acquired all of those resources and the largely-undamaged infrastructure used to exploit them. All that would have made very rich gifts for Putin to present to his favourite oligarchs to operate, from which he’d receive a nice little cut himself.

There’s quite enough good stuff in Ukraine’s eastern provinces to make them worth holding on to, which goes a bit of the way to explaining Putin’s reluctance to call off the fight.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

The real reason POOtin wants Ukraine is the resources. It is a rich country. Old shitcan thinks that he wants to take all their money as well as that of his own countrymen. Other people are not to have money. It all belongs to dunny can.

That’s a big prize for Putin, one of the big attractions in launching the invasion.

Ukraine has vast amounts of coal, gas, oil shale, manganese and titanium. And a lot of other stuff, in somewhat smaller amounts, besides.

If the original three/four day ‘blitzkrieg’ to the Polish border had been successful, then Russia would have quickly acquired all of those resources and the largely-undamaged infrastructure used to exploit them. All that would have made very rich gifts for Putin to present to his favourite oligarchs to operate, from which he’d receive a nice little cut himself.

There’s quite enough good stuff in Ukraine’s eastern provinces to make them worth holding on to, which goes a bit of the way to explaining Putin’s reluctance to call off the fight.

It is also why he annexed Crimea.

roughbarked said:

The real reason POOtin wants Ukraine is the resources. It is a rich country. Old shitcan thinks that he wants to take all their money as well as that of his own countrymen. Other people are not to have money. It all belongs to dunny can.

What he wants is control of the countries formerly occupied by the old Soviet Union (being all of Ukraine plus the Baltic States), plus indirect control over over the former Warsaw Pact Nations. To control all of vital strategic geographic choke points on the boundaries of those lands.

“We aren’t afraid of the dark”

Dark Orange said:

“We aren’t afraid of the dark”

Its amazing the range those things have. Good to have a look at the wing on that thing/ the shape of the wing.

I wonder if they fit a custom bladder for the fuel so it fills the wing section? I’ve heard talk suggesting that the motor is a glorified motorcycle engine (?)

If you were smart you’d have a timer inside the brain OR close to the explosive inside ( or maybe inside the explosive with a pressure vessel holding a pressure sensitive microswitch down. If the head/ explosive is damaged the thing blows up.

The nazis would drop bombs with timers in them onto London, it meant it was risky going near the bomb. Booby trap mechanisms would be inside the head just waiting for a UXB crew to turn up.

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

Russia just wants to sell oil to Ukraine?

When you have to invade your customers to get them to buy your product, you should probably have a serious talk with your marketing department.

Ukraine is a poor and corrupt nation

It got its money from transit money

As it is ukraine as we know it was created by the soviet union. People leave ukraine because its been fucked.

The real reason POOtin wants Ukraine is the resources. It is a rich country. Old shitcan thinks that he wants to take all their money as well as that of his own countrymen. Other people are not to have money. It all belongs to dunny can.

Absolutely

That section of ukraine is rich in all kinds of things, especially the wheat fields. It was bad luck that the whole East and south are packed with russians. Historically they’ve always been there. The british were fighting Russia in Crimea – my old school was built for the Crimean war as a hospital. They smashed this historic building down for a housing estate , bastards.

If I could go back in time I’d turn up at the council at 11 years old and find out how I could get the building declared a historic building and then force them to put a fire system in , to make sure there were no “accidents”

The building and outbuildings had resident ghosts who must have died in the wards.

wookiemeister said:

Dark Orange said:

“We aren’t afraid of the dark”

Its amazing the range those things have. Good to have a look at the wing on that thing/ the shape of the wing.

I wonder if they fit a custom bladder for the fuel so it fills the wing section? I’ve heard talk suggesting that the motor is a glorified motorcycle engine (?)

Nah, standard moped engine. Made up of all consumer grade parts. That allows them to buy all parts without getting on the wrong side of the law, and assemble them in Syria.

And the deputy chief of staff of Wagner is no longer on the payroll.

15 hours 4 minutes

To winter

wookiemeister said:

15 hours 4 minutes

To winter

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Is Europe suddenly winning the gas war with Russia?

Prices have dropped by almost 65 per cent since hitting an all-time peak in August. Storage caverns across the continent are filled to bursting point ready to supply homes and industry this winter. Even seaborne liquefied natural gas tankers, which desperate buyers had to fight to pry away from Asia, are now so plentiful there are traffic jams forming outside European terminals as they wait to unload.

After months of fearing a winter beset by shortages and misery caused by Russia’s weaponisation of gas supplies, most traders will cautiously concede that Europe’s fortunes have improved. Warmer-than-normal weather in the past few weeks has delayed the start of heating season, leaving a bigger buffer of gas for the winter months, while European businesses have cut consumption sharply.

wookiemeister said:

15 hours 4 minutes

To winter

Timing is the trickiest part.

You have to judge just when the mud is frozen hard enough to make your escape dash to the Russian border, but not leave it so late that the snow slows you down.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

15 hours 4 minutes

To winter

Timing is the trickiest part.

You have to judge just when the mud is frozen hard enough to make your escape dash to the Russian border, but not leave it so late that the snow slows you down.

And the warmer weather will have the mud remaining mud for longer.

Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

15 hours 4 minutes

To winter

Timing is the trickiest part.

You have to judge just when the mud is frozen hard enough to make your escape dash to the Russian border, but not leave it so late that the snow slows you down.

And the warmer weather will have the mud remaining mud for longer.

The russians know this area very well – they live there.

wookiemeister said:

Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

Timing is the trickiest part.

You have to judge just when the mud is frozen hard enough to make your escape dash to the Russian border, but not leave it so late that the snow slows you down.

And the warmer weather will have the mud remaining mud for longer.

The russians know this area very well – they live there.

No they don’t. They live in a neighbouring country.

Dark Orange said:

wookiemeister said:

Tamb said:

And the warmer weather will have the mud remaining mud for longer.

The russians know this area very well – they live there.

No they don’t. They live in a neighbouring country.

And die in Ukraine.

wookiemeister said:

15 hours 4 minutes

To winter

Do they have winter in different months to our summer?

Kingy said:

wookiemeister said:

15 hours 4 minutes

To winter

Do they have winter in different months to our summer?

Kingy said:

wookiemeister said:

15 hours 4 minutes

To winter

Do they have winter in different months to our summer?

I’ve been pondering that for all this time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N54JL6Z8YQQ

Link

religious nutbaggery holy war.

JudgeMental said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N54JL6Z8YQQ

Link

religious nutbaggery holy war.

May they all die for this cause.

roughbarked said:

Kingy said:

wookiemeister said:

15 hours 4 minutes

To winter

Do they have winter in different months to our summer?

I’ve been pondering that for all this time.

Now is the winter of their discontent…

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Kingy said:

Do they have winter in different months to our summer?

I’ve been pondering that for all this time.

Now is the winter of their discontent…

They are closer to the Arctic than we are. Maybe winter starts early?

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

I’ve been pondering that for all this time.

Now is the winter of their discontent…

They are closer to the Arctic than we are. Maybe winter starts early?

Is climate change affecting things over there?

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N54JL6Z8YQQ

Link

religious nutbaggery holy war.

May they all die for this cause.

Some people are very good at observational existentialism
others not so much when dying over something that does not exist
but it gives them something to do, up to a point.

Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N54JL6Z8YQQ

Link

religious nutbaggery holy war.

May they all die for this cause.

Some people are very good at observational existentialism
others not so much when dying over something that does not exist
but it gives them something to do, up to a point.

It gives them something to do for the rest of their lives.

A brief disagreement

https://youtu.be/9×7FGbW3IVc

wookiemeister said:

A brief disagreement

https://youtu.be/9×7FGbW3IVc

Regrettably, Youtube tells me that ‘this video isn’t available any more’.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

A brief disagreement

https://youtu.be/9×7FGbW3IVc

Regrettably, Youtube tells me that ‘this video isn’t available any more’.

I just watched it

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

A brief disagreement

https://youtu.be/9×7FGbW3IVc

Regrettably, Youtube tells me that ‘this video isn’t available any more’.

That’s because the x between the 9 and 7 has been replaced by a × (times symbol.) Try this:
https://youtu.be/9x7FGbW3IVc

link

btm said:

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

A brief disagreement

https://youtu.be/9×7FGbW3IVc

Regrettably, Youtube tells me that ‘this video isn’t available any more’.

That’s because the x between the 9 and 7 has been replaced by a × (times symbol.) Try this:
https://youtu.be/9x7FGbW3IVc

link

Ah, that’s better.

2 hours 55 min to winter

kiev forecast : 8/3 rain – seems to set in mid week

kherson forecast 14/ 6 rain seems to set in mid week

lviv forecast 12/6 rain seems to set in mid week

kharkiv 7/1 rain seems to set in mid week (presently raining)

wookiemeister said:

2 hours 55 min to winter

kiev forecast : 8/3 rain – seems to set in mid week

kherson forecast 14/ 6 rain seems to set in mid week

lviv forecast 12/6 rain seems to set in mid week

kharkiv 7/1 rain seems to set in mid week (presently raining)

“Owing to Earth’s axial tilt of 23.439281°, winter in the Northern Hemisphere lasts from the December solstice (typically December 21 UTC) to the March equinox (typically March 20 UTC), while summer lasts from the June solstice through to the September equinox (typically on 23 September UTC).”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere

Kingy said:

wookiemeister said:

2 hours 55 min to winter

kiev forecast : 8/3 rain – seems to set in mid week

kherson forecast 14/ 6 rain seems to set in mid week

lviv forecast 12/6 rain seems to set in mid week

kharkiv 7/1 rain seems to set in mid week (presently raining)

“Owing to Earth’s axial tilt of 23.439281°, winter in the Northern Hemisphere lasts from the December solstice (typically December 21 UTC) to the March equinox (typically March 20 UTC), while summer lasts from the June solstice through to the September equinox (typically on 23 September UTC).”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere

Wookie’s reverted to the Julian Calendar

For the record, I contacted cb88 twice about ridding the forum of wookie, and this was his reply, some weeks ago.

(If others find wookie as unpleasant as I do, maybe if you contact cb88 he might realise that playing Musk in this instance is not really a good idea. Especially as Western governments are investing many resources in trying to counter the kind of Russian disinformation that cb88 is happy to host).

>Hi Bubblecar,

Looks like they’ve only posted 2 or 3 threads in the last month on that topic. I understand you find the threads upsetting, but no one else seems too bothered by wookiemeister.

Please stop opening them if you know you won’t like the content.

I don’t appreciate the threat<

(The “threat” was that I said I may feel obliged to inform the authorities that this site is hosting Russian disinformation).

Bubblecar said:

For the record, I contacted cb88 twice about ridding the forum of wookie, and this was his reply, some weeks ago.

(If others find wookie as unpleasant as I do, maybe if you contact cb88 he might realise that playing Musk in this instance is not really a good idea. Especially as Western governments are investing many resources in trying to counter the kind of Russian disinformation that cb88 is happy to host).

>Hi Bubblecar,

Looks like they’ve only posted 2 or 3 threads in the last month on that topic. I understand you find the threads upsetting, but no one else seems too bothered by wookiemeister.

Please stop opening them if you know you won’t like the content.

I don’t appreciate the threat<

(The “threat” was that I said I may feel obliged to inform the authorities that this site is hosting Russian disinformation).

I agree with cb88.

Bubblecar said:

For the record, I contacted cb88 twice about ridding the forum of wookie, and this was his reply, some weeks ago.

(If others find wookie as unpleasant as I do, maybe if you contact cb88 he might realise that playing Musk in this instance is not really a good idea. Especially as Western governments are investing many resources in trying to counter the kind of Russian disinformation that cb88 is happy to host).

>Hi Bubblecar,

Looks like they’ve only posted 2 or 3 threads in the last month on that topic. I understand you find the threads upsetting, but no one else seems too bothered by wookiemeister.

Please stop opening them if you know you won’t like the content.

I don’t appreciate the threat<

(The “threat” was that I said I may feel obliged to inform the authorities that this site is hosting Russian disinformation).

If you feel that reporting Wookie to the authorities is warranted then do so. I suspect it matters little to CB88 whether this place continues in its current form.

Bubblecar said:

For the record, I contacted cb88 twice about ridding the forum of wookie, and this was his reply, some weeks ago.

(If others find wookie as unpleasant as I do, maybe if you contact cb88 he might realise that playing Musk in this instance is not really a good idea. Especially as Western governments are investing many resources in trying to counter the kind of Russian disinformation that cb88 is happy to host).

>Hi Bubblecar,

Looks like they’ve only posted 2 or 3 threads in the last month on that topic. I understand you find the threads upsetting, but no one else seems too bothered by wookiemeister.

Please stop opening them if you know you won’t like the content.

I don’t appreciate the threat<

(The “threat” was that I said I may feel obliged to inform the authorities that this site is hosting Russian disinformation).

Do you still feel so obliged?

sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

For the record, I contacted cb88 twice about ridding the forum of wookie, and this was his reply, some weeks ago.

(If others find wookie as unpleasant as I do, maybe if you contact cb88 he might realise that playing Musk in this instance is not really a good idea. Especially as Western governments are investing many resources in trying to counter the kind of Russian disinformation that cb88 is happy to host).

>Hi Bubblecar,

Looks like they’ve only posted 2 or 3 threads in the last month on that topic. I understand you find the threads upsetting, but no one else seems too bothered by wookiemeister.

Please stop opening them if you know you won’t like the content.

I don’t appreciate the threat<

(The “threat” was that I said I may feel obliged to inform the authorities that this site is hosting Russian disinformation).

I agree with cb88.

I know you do, I’m trying to appeal to the sane ones :)

Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

For the record, I contacted cb88 twice about ridding the forum of wookie, and this was his reply, some weeks ago.

(If others find wookie as unpleasant as I do, maybe if you contact cb88 he might realise that playing Musk in this instance is not really a good idea. Especially as Western governments are investing many resources in trying to counter the kind of Russian disinformation that cb88 is happy to host).

>Hi Bubblecar,

Looks like they’ve only posted 2 or 3 threads in the last month on that topic. I understand you find the threads upsetting, but no one else seems too bothered by wookiemeister.

Please stop opening them if you know you won’t like the content.

I don’t appreciate the threat<

(The “threat” was that I said I may feel obliged to inform the authorities that this site is hosting Russian disinformation).

I agree with cb88.

I know you do, I’m trying to appeal to the sane ones :)

We are all as sane as we are good drivers.

Anyway It was just for the record.

Most people here couldn’t give a fuck about Ukraine, beyond it being a vaguely interesting military thang.

I’ll cease and desist, let wookie spread his wings :)

Witty Rejoinder said:

Bubblecar said:

For the record, I contacted cb88 twice about ridding the forum of wookie, and this was his reply, some weeks ago.

(If others find wookie as unpleasant as I do, maybe if you contact cb88 he might realise that playing Musk in this instance is not really a good idea. Especially as Western governments are investing many resources in trying to counter the kind of Russian disinformation that cb88 is happy to host).

>Hi Bubblecar,

Looks like they’ve only posted 2 or 3 threads in the last month on that topic. I understand you find the threads upsetting, but no one else seems too bothered by wookiemeister.

Please stop opening them if you know you won’t like the content.

I don’t appreciate the threat<

(The “threat” was that I said I may feel obliged to inform the authorities that this site is hosting Russian disinformation).

If you feel that reporting Wookie to the authorities is warranted then do so. I suspect it matters little to CB88 whether this place continues in its current form.

I’m sure the “authorities”, whoever they may be, won’t give a fuck about this place. it hasn’t much of a reach after all.

Bubblecar said:

Anyway It was just for the record.

Most people here couldn’t give a fuck about Ukraine, beyond it being a vaguely interesting military thang.

I’ll cease and desist, let wookie spread his wings :)

FWIW, I find wookie by far the most irritating person on this forum, and I really don’t understand why so many people think its a good idea to respond to the crap he posts, but ignoring his posts is pretty easy.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Anyway It was just for the record.

Most people here couldn’t give a fuck about Ukraine, beyond it being a vaguely interesting military thang.

I’ll cease and desist, let wookie spread his wings :)

FWIW, I find wookie by far the most irritating person on this forum, and I really don’t understand why so many people think its a good idea to respond to the crap he posts, but ignoring his posts is pretty easy.

some peoples are gluttons for punishment.

JudgeMental said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Bubblecar said:

For the record, I contacted cb88 twice about ridding the forum of wookie, and this was his reply, some weeks ago.

(If others find wookie as unpleasant as I do, maybe if you contact cb88 he might realise that playing Musk in this instance is not really a good idea. Especially as Western governments are investing many resources in trying to counter the kind of Russian disinformation that cb88 is happy to host).

>Hi Bubblecar,

Looks like they’ve only posted 2 or 3 threads in the last month on that topic. I understand you find the threads upsetting, but no one else seems too bothered by wookiemeister.

Please stop opening them if you know you won’t like the content.

I don’t appreciate the threat<

(The “threat” was that I said I may feel obliged to inform the authorities that this site is hosting Russian disinformation).

If you feel that reporting Wookie to the authorities is warranted then do so. I suspect it matters little to CB88 whether this place continues in its current form.

I’m sure the “authorities”, whoever they may be, won’t give a fuck about this place. it hasn’t much of a reach after all.

I doubt it

Australia has already openly committed 500 million to the conflict ( most likely they have given MORE to this conflict perhaps billions ).

I encourage you to report me to the “authorities”

wookiemeister said:

JudgeMental said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

If you feel that reporting Wookie to the authorities is warranted then do so. I suspect it matters little to CB88 whether this place continues in its current form.

I’m sure the “authorities”, whoever they may be, won’t give a fuck about this place. it hasn’t much of a reach after all.

I doubt it

Australia has already openly committed 500 million to the conflict ( most likely they have given MORE to this conflict perhaps billions ).

I encourage you to report me to the “authorities”

You don’t need us to do that. You seem to want to hand yourself in. Of which it appears you are perfectly capable of doing for yourself. ;)

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

JudgeMental said:

I’m sure the “authorities”, whoever they may be, won’t give a fuck about this place. it hasn’t much of a reach after all.

I doubt it

Australia has already openly committed 500 million to the conflict ( most likely they have given MORE to this conflict perhaps billions ).

I encourage you to report me to the “authorities”

You don’t need us to do that. You seem to want to hand yourself in. Of which it appears you are perfectly capable of doing for yourself. ;)

I’m used to dealing with lunatics.

The average lunatic is a problem , its the lunatics with any kind of power that becomes the problem. When it starts getting bad you quickly pack up and leave. It Waa the stories of the persecution of the Jews I heard from a relatively early age that convinced me that at the first sign of institutional damage you enter a “wait and watch “ stage. As more evidence builds you start putting your affairs in order so you can leave.

Jews in Europe were warned well before time that they were in danger – they ignored those dangers right up to the point of being a stone to hold on to and being told it was soap.

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

I doubt it

Australia has already openly committed 500 million to the conflict ( most likely they have given MORE to this conflict perhaps billions ).

I encourage you to report me to the “authorities”

You don’t need us to do that. You seem to want to hand yourself in. Of which it appears you are perfectly capable of doing for yourself. ;)

I’m used to dealing with lunatics.

The average lunatic is a problem , its the lunatics with any kind of power that becomes the problem. When it starts getting bad you quickly pack up and leave. It Waa the stories of the persecution of the Jews I heard from a relatively early age that convinced me that at the first sign of institutional damage you enter a “wait and watch “ stage. As more evidence builds you start putting your affairs in order so you can leave.

Jews in Europe were warned well before time that they were in danger – they ignored those dangers right up to the point of being a stone to hold on to and being told it was soap.

Lunatics hey? Like people who can’t find a conspiracy theory they don’t like?

So… Russia renegs on the deal to allow Ukrainian grain to go through the captured Ukrainian ports.

Ukraine, Turkey, and the UN says “you do you, champ, we’ll do us”.

Will Russia finally get the chance to discover if their navy is any better than their army and airforce? Or will they suddenly change their mind and play nice?

https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1586840910054277120

Ukraine, Turkey & the UN have notified Russia that they have decided on organizing a convoy of 14 cargo ships with grain to set sails from Ukraine tomorrow despite Russia’s renewed naval blockade in the Black Sea.

Will Russia attack the ships carrying Ukrainian grain?

Dark Orange said:

So… Russia renegs on the deal to allow Ukrainian grain to go through the captured Ukrainian ports.

Ukraine, Turkey, and the UN says “you do you, champ, we’ll do us”.

Will Russia finally get the chance to discover if their navy is any better than their army and airforce? Or will they suddenly change their mind and play nice?

https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1586840910054277120

Ukraine, Turkey & the UN have notified Russia that they have decided on organizing a convoy of 14 cargo ships with grain to set sails from Ukraine tomorrow despite Russia’s renewed naval blockade in the Black Sea.

Will Russia attack the ships carrying Ukrainian grain?

Likely an empty threat.

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

You don’t need us to do that. You seem to want to hand yourself in. Of which it appears you are perfectly capable of doing for yourself. ;)

I’m used to dealing with lunatics.

The average lunatic is a problem , its the lunatics with any kind of power that becomes the problem. When it starts getting bad you quickly pack up and leave. It Waa the stories of the persecution of the Jews I heard from a relatively early age that convinced me that at the first sign of institutional damage you enter a “wait and watch “ stage. As more evidence builds you start putting your affairs in order so you can leave.

Jews in Europe were warned well before time that they were in danger – they ignored those dangers right up to the point of being a stone to hold on to and being told it was soap.

Lunatics hey? Like people who can’t find a conspiracy theory they don’t like?

maybe the lunatics see a fellow traveler?

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

So… Russia renegs on the deal to allow Ukrainian grain to go through the captured Ukrainian ports.

Ukraine, Turkey, and the UN says “you do you, champ, we’ll do us”.

Will Russia finally get the chance to discover if their navy is any better than their army and airforce? Or will they suddenly change their mind and play nice?

https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1586840910054277120

Ukraine, Turkey & the UN have notified Russia that they have decided on organizing a convoy of 14 cargo ships with grain to set sails from Ukraine tomorrow despite Russia’s renewed naval blockade in the Black Sea.

Will Russia attack the ships carrying Ukrainian grain?

Likely an empty threat.

Not empty. Turkey, on paper at least, could take on the Russian fleet. In reality, they only need to be half-competent and the Black Sea Fleet will fare as well as the rest of Russia’s armed forces.

https://theconversation.com/could-russia-collapse-193013

Link

Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

So… Russia renegs on the deal to allow Ukrainian grain to go through the captured Ukrainian ports.

Ukraine, Turkey, and the UN says “you do you, champ, we’ll do us”.

Will Russia finally get the chance to discover if their navy is any better than their army and airforce? Or will they suddenly change their mind and play nice?

https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1586840910054277120

Ukraine, Turkey & the UN have notified Russia that they have decided on organizing a convoy of 14 cargo ships with grain to set sails from Ukraine tomorrow despite Russia’s renewed naval blockade in the Black Sea.

Will Russia attack the ships carrying Ukrainian grain?

Likely an empty threat.

Not empty. Turkey, on paper at least, could take on the Russian fleet. In reality, they only need to be half-competent and the Black Sea Fleet will fare as well as the rest of Russia’s armed forces.

I meant a putin type threat which he’ll have trouble backing up.

JudgeMental said:

https://theconversation.com/could-russia-collapse-193013

Link

Ta.

Missiles strike continue

Start of winter

Kharkiv 6/0 partly cloudy

Lviv 16/8 partly cloudy

Kherson 14/0 mostly sunny

Kiev 11/0 sunny

wookiemeister said:

Missiles strike continue

Start of winter

Surely they’ll save a few rockets New Year’s Eve?

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

Missiles strike continue

Start of winter

Surely they’ll save a few rockets New Year’s Eve?

Most likely a relentless rain of missiles until the ground hardens

Now the weather has turned you’ll find the energy system is going to be hammered

You’ll find smaller more expendable drones will be used to hint the SAM systems. From footage they see to be honing in the radar system – no point attacking the launchers , that’s a waste of time, the radar gives itself away. As the high altitude missiles are launched loitering drones are launched. The radar acts like a beacon.

As the energy system gets hit you’ll find a drift of civillians away from places where no power or water exists.

There’s a good chance the Norwegian pipelines will be hit ( the russians may have already wargamed this scenario and planted bombs on the pipeline months ago – maybe even before Feb 22). They’ll keep this as an ace up their sleeve till winter really hits (?)

I’m thinking Russia will never send gas and oil west or anything else ever again , no fertiliser, no minerals. Why? Because Europe is now seen as a bad actor that seeks to destroy Russia. They aren’t trading partners.

From a Russian perspective ukraine will remain a threat until its military ceases to exist. Any territory as ukraine will be used to launch chemical, biological, nuclear attacks on Russia.

All you’ll see is a relentless hammering now on energy infrastructure – maybe the world of the future for Russia is to turn ukraine into a vast empty void to be used as a trip wire for NATO forces. No one will live in large sections of it.

wookiemeister said:

As the energy system gets hit you’ll find a drift of civillians away from places where no power or water exists.

There’s a good chance the Norwegian pipelines will be hit ( the russians may have already wargamed this scenario and planted bombs on the pipeline months ago – maybe even before Feb 22). They’ll keep this as an ace up their sleeve till winter really hits (?)

I’m thinking Russia will never send gas and oil west or anything else ever again , no fertiliser, no minerals. Why? Because Europe is now seen as a bad actor that seeks to destroy Russia. They aren’t trading partners.

Putin has been wreaking his own destruction on the Russian economy for 8 years now and it will only get worse as Russia loses this war. If Putin’s regime survives it will mean Russia will remain militarily and economically weak until his demise.

Belarus and ukraine are a solid block

Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia become militarised by NATO and become a massive drain. The idea is NATO could use them to strike towards Moscow.

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

As the energy system gets hit you’ll find a drift of civillians away from places where no power or water exists.

There’s a good chance the Norwegian pipelines will be hit ( the russians may have already wargamed this scenario and planted bombs on the pipeline months ago – maybe even before Feb 22). They’ll keep this as an ace up their sleeve till winter really hits (?)

I’m thinking Russia will never send gas and oil west or anything else ever again , no fertiliser, no minerals. Why? Because Europe is now seen as a bad actor that seeks to destroy Russia. They aren’t trading partners.

Putin has been wreaking his own destruction on the Russian economy for 8 years now and it will only get worse as Russia loses this war. If Putin’s regime survives it will mean Russia will remain militarily and economically weak until his demise.

Sure

Liz truss

“Its done”

The russians were listening to Liz’s phone all along.

Last I heard yesterday America was three weeks till they have no diesel

ASIO brings ISIS brides and their kids back to Australia

Good one

The russians must laugh when they see our “intelligence” agencies actively bringing these people to Australia. Ya can’t cure stupid ! The only silver lining is they will be voting Labor.

wookiemeister said:

ASIO brings ISIS brides and their kids back to Australia

Good one

The russians must laugh when they see our “intelligence” agencies actively bringing these people to Australia. Ya can’t cure stupid ! The only silver lining is they will be voting Labor.

there’s still more of them there isn’t there? this is just some of them?

wookiemeister said:

Belarus and ukraine are a solid block

Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia become militarised by NATO and become a massive drain. The idea is NATO could use them to strike towards Moscow.

With your inflexible and corrupted attitude, it is easy to see the pitiful plight of the Palestinians.

wookiemeister said:

Belarus and ukraine are a solid block

Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia become militarised by NATO and become a massive drain. The idea is NATO could use them to strike towards Moscow.

Despite your continuous railing against them, NATO are not a warring force. They are only peace keepers.
Yes they have been deployed wherever Russia has tried to force the boundaries but that’s only because they are attempting to return peace to a region that Russia has tried to invade.

There is still a lot we don’t know about the man who attacked Paul Pelosi after 2 a.m. on Friday morning, but it seems increasingly clear that he was an illegal immigrant.

wookiemeister said:

There is still a lot we don’t know about the man who attacked Paul Pelosi after 2 a.m. on Friday morning, but it seems increasingly clear that he was an illegal immigrant.

Next you’ll be telling us that he’s gay.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

There is still a lot we don’t know about the man who attacked Paul Pelosi after 2 a.m. on Friday morning, but it seems increasingly clear that he was an illegal immigrant.

Next you’ll be telling us that he’s gay.

There was a third person in underpants that let the police in

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

There is still a lot we don’t know about the man who attacked Paul Pelosi after 2 a.m. on Friday morning, but it seems increasingly clear that he was an illegal immigrant.

Next you’ll be telling us that he’s gay.

His stepfather, Gene DePape, said David DePape grew up in Powell River, British Columbia, and left Canada about 20 years ago to pursue a relationship that brought him to California.

wookiemeister said:

There is still a lot we don’t know about the man who attacked Paul Pelosi after 2 a.m. on Friday morning, but it seems increasingly clear that he was an illegal immigrant.

David DePape grew up in Powell River, British Columbia, and left Canada about 20 years ago to pursue a relationship that brought him to California.

“I really don’t know what to think,” the suspect’s uncle, Mark DePape, said of his nephew’s alleged attack on Pelosi. “Hopefully it’s a scam. I don’t want to hear something like that.”

People who knew DePape in California described him as an odd character.

A 2013 article in the San Francisco Chronicle identified him as a “hemp jewelry maker,” and said that he lived with a nudist activist. Other photos published by the Chronicle show DePape – fully clothed – at a nude wedding on the steps of San Francisco City Hall.

Linda Schneider, a California resident, told CNN she got to know DePape roughly eight years ago and that he occasionally housesat for her. When they met, she said, DePape was living in a storage unit in the Berkeley area and told her he had been struggling with hard drugs but was “trying to create a new life for himself.”

She said that he was extremely shy. “He said he couldn’t even go and have a bank account because he was terrified of speaking to a teller,” Schneider said.

But Schneider later received “really disturbing” emails from DePape in which he sounded like a “megalomaniac and so out of touch with reality,” she said. She said she stopped communicating with him “because it seemed so dangerous,” adding that she recalled him “using Biblical justification to do harm.”

DePape’s social media presence similarly paints a picture of someone on a worrying trajectory, falling into conspiracy theories in recent years.
Paul Pelosi, husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, of California, shown in this March 17 file photo.

Assailant tried to tie up Paul Pelosi in home attack and shouted, ‘Where is Nancy?’ sources say

Last year, David DePape posted links on his Facebook page to multiple videos produced by My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell falsely alleging that the 2020 election was stolen. Other posts included transphobic images and linked to websites claiming Covid vaccines were deadly. “The death rates being promoted are what ever ‘THEY’ want to be promoted as the death rate,” one post read.

DePape also posted links to YouTube videos with titles like “Democrat FARCE Commission to Investigate January 6th Capitol Riot COLLAPSES in Congress!!!” and “Global Elites Plan To Take Control Of YOUR Money! (Revealed)”

Two days after former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty of killing George Floyd, DePape wrote that the trial was “a modern lynching,” falsely indicating that Floyd died of a drug overdose.

He also posted content about the “Great Reset”– the sprawling conspiracy theory that global elites are using coronavirus to usher in a new world order in which they gain more power and oppress the masses. And he complained that politicians making promises to try to win votes “are offering you bribes in exchange for your further enslavement.”

Most of the public posts on DePape’s Facebook page were from 2021. In earlier years, DePape also posted long screeds about religion, including claims that “Jesus is the anti christ.” None of the public posts appeared to mention Pelosi.
Blogs show images of Pelosi, Qanon and antisemitism

More recently, two other blogs written by someone with the username “daviddepape” have posted content similar to that on DePape’s Facebook page.

In a string of posts on a Wordpress.com blog over the course of several days in August 2022, the author complained about big tech censorship and posted statements like “Hitlery did nothing wrong.” The site has since been taken offline.

And another blog, also attributed to “daviddepape,” featured antisemitic screeds and content linked to the QAnon conspiracy theory. One video posted on the site includes a shot of Pelosi swinging a gavel during one of former President Donald Trump’s impeachments, and another video includes an image of Pelosi and other politicians. A third video includes a clip of Pelosi speaking on the House floor.

Other posts from the last few weeks featured videos accusing LGBTQ people of “grooming” children, and declared that “any journalist saying” there is no evidence of election fraud “should be dragged straight out into the street and shot.” The most recent post – linking to a YouTube video comparing colleges to cults – went up the day before the Pelosi attack.

CNN was not able to confirm that the two blogs were written by DePape.

Another former acquaintance of DePape’s also told CNN he exhibited concerning behavior over the years.

Laura Hayes, who also lives in California, said she worked with DePape for a few months roughly a decade ago making hemp bracelets when he was living in a storage shed in the Berkeley area. She said DePape sold the bracelets as a business.

“He was very odd. He didn’t make eye contact very well,” Hayes said. She recalled him saying that “he talks to angels and there will be a hard time coming.” But she didn’t remember any seriously threatening comments, and said she didn’t think much of it because “it’s Berkeley,” a place where eccentric characters aren’t uncommon.

Hayes, who was Facebook friends with DePape, called his more recent posts “so phobic in so many ways” and filled with “so much anger.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/31/politics/paul-pelosi-attack-what-we-know/index.html

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

There is still a lot we don’t know about the man who attacked Paul Pelosi after 2 a.m. on Friday morning, but it seems increasingly clear that he was an illegal immigrant.

Next you’ll be telling us that he’s gay.

His stepfather, Gene DePape, said David DePape grew up in Powell River, British Columbia, and left Canada about 20 years ago to pursue a relationship that brought him to California.

From: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/31/politics/paul-pelosi-attack-what-we-know/index.html ?

wookiemeister said:

There is still a lot we don’t know about the man who attacked Paul Pelosi after 2 a.m. on Friday morning, but it seems increasingly clear that he was an illegal immigrant.

From Canada.

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

There is still a lot we don’t know about the man who attacked Paul Pelosi after 2 a.m. on Friday morning, but it seems increasingly clear that he was an illegal immigrant.

From Canada.

yes, but for wookie the slur that he was illegal is good enough. it makes people think of countries to the south of the USA rather than to the north. It is racially motivated.

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

There is still a lot we don’t know about the man who attacked Paul Pelosi after 2 a.m. on Friday morning, but it seems increasingly clear that he was an illegal immigrant.

Next you’ll be telling us that he’s gay.

There was a third person in underpants that let the police in

No.

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

Next you’ll be telling us that he’s gay.

There was a third person in underpants that let the police in

No.

Well, i’d be willing to bet that just about everyone involved was in underpants.

The question is, how many were wearing something else over those underpants.

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

There was a third person in underpants that let the police in

No.

Well, i’d be willing to bet that just about everyone involved was in underpants.

The question is, how many were wearing something else over those underpants.

And if they were worn on the head or not.

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

There was a third person in underpants that let the police in

No.

Well, i’d be willing to bet that just about everyone involved was in underpants.

The question is, how many were wearing something else over those underpants.

weren’t there any commandos there?

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

No.

Well, i’d be willing to bet that just about everyone involved was in underpants.

The question is, how many were wearing something else over those underpants.

weren’t there any commandos there?

And a cowboy, Indian and a construction worker?

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

There is still a lot we don’t know about the man who attacked Paul Pelosi after 2 a.m. on Friday morning, but it seems increasingly clear that he was an illegal immigrant.

From Canada.

Australia regular sends back criminals to NZ

Witty Rejoinder said:

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

Well, i’d be willing to bet that just about everyone involved was in underpants.

The question is, how many were wearing something else over those underpants.

weren’t there any commandos there?

And a cowboy, Indian and a construction worker?

Arseless chaps

Kiev 12/2 partly cloudy
Kharkiv 5/1 sunny
Lviv 16/9 partly cloudy
Kherson 12/5 sunny

Why you should not store your anti-tank mines on your armoured vehicle.

Hey Wookie, some light reading for you.

“I think I’m going crazy. I’ve already killed so many civilians.”

Warning to others: Confronting reading, disturbing photos.

https://apnews.com/article/bucha-ukraine-war-cleansing-investigation-43e5a9538e9ba68a035756b05028b8b4

Later, when all the bodies were found strewn along the streets and packed in hasty graves, it would be easy to think the carnage was random. Residents asking how this happened would be told to make their peace, because some questions just don’t have answers.

Yet there was a method to the violence.

What happened that day in Bucha was what Russian soldiers on intercepted phone conversations called “zachistka” — cleansing. The Russians hunted people on lists prepared by their intelligence services and went door to door to identify potential threats. Those who didn’t pass this filtration, including volunteer fighters and civilians suspected of assisting Ukrainian troops, were tortured and executed, surveillance video, audio intercepts and interviews show.

Dark Orange said:

Hey Wookie, some light reading for you.

“I think I’m going crazy. I’ve already killed so many civilians.”

Warning to others: Confronting reading, disturbing photos.

https://apnews.com/article/bucha-ukraine-war-cleansing-investigation-43e5a9538e9ba68a035756b05028b8b4

Later, when all the bodies were found strewn along the streets and packed in hasty graves, it would be easy to think the carnage was random. Residents asking how this happened would be told to make their peace, because some questions just don’t have answers.

Yet there was a method to the violence.

What happened that day in Bucha was what Russian soldiers on intercepted phone conversations called “zachistka” — cleansing. The Russians hunted people on lists prepared by their intelligence services and went door to door to identify potential threats. Those who didn’t pass this filtration, including volunteer fighters and civilians suspected of assisting Ukrainian troops, were tortured and executed, surveillance video, audio intercepts and interviews show.

yeah but, Ukrainians are boiling the heads of Russians!!! etc. etc. deflect and #whataboutism

Kharkiv 3 rain
Lviv 3 rain
Kherson 5 cloudy
Kiev 3 cloudy

Missile attacks on energy infrastructure continue

Weather turning cold and wet

Russians bolstering defence lines. In the next few months they might have at least 1 million troops mobilised.

No energy, no heat, no light Ukrainian cities are abandoned and the populations of ukraine head west until they get power.

wookiemeister said:

Missile attacks on energy infrastructure continue

Weather turning cold and wet

Russians bolstering defence lines. In the next few months they might have at least 1 million troops mobilised.

No energy, no heat, no light Ukrainian cities are abandoned and the populations of ukraine head west until they get power.

The man is insane.

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

Missile attacks on energy infrastructure continue

Weather turning cold and wet

Russians bolstering defence lines. In the next few months they might have at least 1 million troops mobilised.

No energy, no heat, no light Ukrainian cities are abandoned and the populations of ukraine head west until they get power.

The man is insane.

and he has backers:
Former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev has cast Russia’s war in Ukraine as a sacred conflict with Satan, and said Moscow could send all its enemies to the eternal fires of Gehenna. Said Moscow was fighting “crazy Nazi drug addicts” in Ukraine backed by westerners who he said had “saliva running down their chins from degeneracy”.

For the Wookster’s review:

Dark Orange said:

Hey Wookie, some light reading for you.

“I think I’m going crazy. I’ve already killed so many civilians.”

Warning to others: Confronting reading, disturbing photos.

https://apnews.com/article/bucha-ukraine-war-cleansing-investigation-43e5a9538e9ba68a035756b05028b8b4

Later, when all the bodies were found strewn along the streets and packed in hasty graves, it would be easy to think the carnage was random. Residents asking how this happened would be told to make their peace, because some questions just don’t have answers.

Yet there was a method to the violence.

What happened that day in Bucha was what Russian soldiers on intercepted phone conversations called “zachistka” — cleansing. The Russians hunted people on lists prepared by their intelligence services and went door to door to identify potential threats. Those who didn’t pass this filtration, including volunteer fighters and civilians suspected of assisting Ukrainian troops, were tortured and executed, surveillance video, audio intercepts and interviews show.

Mr Medvedev, now deputy chairman of Russia’s Security Council, said Russia had different weapons, including the ability to “send all our enemies to fiery Gehenna”, using a Hebrew term often translated as hell.

Satan’s weapons, Mr Medvedev said, were “intricate lies … and our weapon is the truth, that is why our cause is right. That is why victory will be ours.”
Putin wants people to leave Kherson

Mr Putin has now called for civilians in Kherson to be evacuated from the conflict zone, telling pro-Kremlin activists on Russia’s Day of National Unity that residents should be removed from “the zone of the most dangerous actions”.

German Chancellor asks China to promote peace

Chinese President Xi Jinping and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Friday condemned threats to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, with Mr Scholz warning Russia risked “crossing a line” in the international community by resorting to nuclear force.

In the first visit by a G7 leader to China since the pandemic, Mr Scholz pressed Mr Xi to encourage Russia to end the war, saying Beijing had a responsibility as a major power to do so.

Mr Xi agreed both leaders “jointly oppose the use or threat of use of nuclear weapons”, according to a readout by the state-run Xinhua news agency, though he refrained from criticising Russia or calling on Moscow to withdraw its troops.

Mr Scholz also asked Mr Xi, to promote peace.

“I have told President Xi that it is important, that China uses its influence on Russia,” he said.

Mr Scholz also told Mr Xi Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was creating problems for the rules-based global order, according to a recording of the remarks provided by the German delegation.

Reuters
Posted 6h ago
6 hours ago
, updated 2h ago

roughbarked said:

Mr Scholz also told Mr Xi Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was creating problems for the rules-based global order, according to a recording of the remarks provided by the German delegation.

Reuters
Posted 6h ago
6 hours ago
, updated 2h ago

It’s almost as if Germans and Chinese are the only ones who believe in rules.

Saturday, November 5
2:21 am

Russian occupying forces loot Kherson art museum.

Under the guise of “evacuation,” armed men dressed in civilian clothing looted the Oleksiy Shovkunenko Kherson Art Museum over the course of four days, the museum’s administration said in a Facebook post. According to the post, between Oct. 31-Nov. 3, Russian occupying forces and Russian collaborators carried out “everything they saw, everything they could reach,” without properly packaging the works for transport.

https://kyivindependent.com/news-archive

Michael V said:

Saturday, November 5
2:21 am

Russian occupying forces loot Kherson art museum.

Under the guise of “evacuation,” armed men dressed in civilian clothing looted the Oleksiy Shovkunenko Kherson Art Museum over the course of four days, the museum’s administration said in a Facebook post. According to the post, between Oct. 31-Nov. 3, Russian occupying forces and Russian collaborators carried out “everything they saw, everything they could reach,” without properly packaging the works for transport.

https://kyivindependent.com/news-archive

Don’t wish to be a party pooper, but Britain did the same over many years when they had their Empire. The British Museaum has over 7 million objects, many collected acquired from colonised lands.

PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

Saturday, November 5
2:21 am

Russian occupying forces loot Kherson art museum.

Under the guise of “evacuation,” armed men dressed in civilian clothing looted the Oleksiy Shovkunenko Kherson Art Museum over the course of four days, the museum’s administration said in a Facebook post. According to the post, between Oct. 31-Nov. 3, Russian occupying forces and Russian collaborators carried out “everything they saw, everything they could reach,” without properly packaging the works for transport.

https://kyivindependent.com/news-archive

Don’t wish to be a party pooper, but Britain did the same over many years when they had their Empire. The British Museaum has over 7 million objects, many collected acquired from colonised lands.

Britain being bad doesn’t right the Russian wrongs. And Russian wrongs don’t right the British wrongs.

Michael V said:

PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

Saturday, November 5
2:21 am

Russian occupying forces loot Kherson art museum.

Under the guise of “evacuation,” armed men dressed in civilian clothing looted the Oleksiy Shovkunenko Kherson Art Museum over the course of four days, the museum’s administration said in a Facebook post. According to the post, between Oct. 31-Nov. 3, Russian occupying forces and Russian collaborators carried out “everything they saw, everything they could reach,” without properly packaging the works for transport.

https://kyivindependent.com/news-archive

Don’t wish to be a party pooper, but Britain did the same over many years when they had their Empire. The British Museaum has over 7 million objects, many collected acquired from colonised lands.

Britain being bad doesn’t right the Russian wrongs. And Russian wrongs don’t right the British wrongs.

As they used to say in South Africa. Two wongs don’t make a white.

Michael V said:

Saturday, November 5
2:21 am

Russian occupying forces loot Kherson art museum.

Under the guise of “evacuation,” armed men dressed in civilian clothing looted the Oleksiy Shovkunenko Kherson Art Museum over the course of four days, the museum’s administration said in a Facebook post. According to the post, between Oct. 31-Nov. 3, Russian occupying forces and Russian collaborators carried out “everything they saw, everything they could reach,” without properly packaging the works for transport.

https://kyivindependent.com/news-archive

Keep sanctions in place until all the artworks are returned.

Keep sanctions in place until Russia pays for all the infrastructure that Russia destroyed.

Michael V said:

PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

Saturday, November 5
2:21 am

Russian occupying forces loot Kherson art museum.

Under the guise of “evacuation,” armed men dressed in civilian clothing looted the Oleksiy Shovkunenko Kherson Art Museum over the course of four days, the museum’s administration said in a Facebook post. According to the post, between Oct. 31-Nov. 3, Russian occupying forces and Russian collaborators carried out “everything they saw, everything they could reach,” without properly packaging the works for transport.

https://kyivindependent.com/news-archive

Don’t wish to be a party pooper, but Britain did the same over many years when they had their Empire. The British Museaum has over 7 million objects, many collected acquired from colonised lands.

Britain being bad doesn’t right the Russian wrongs. And Russian wrongs don’t right the British wrongs.

Maybe not, but it places it in a more realistic context. You don’t hear of these things in the British educational system, which leaves the impression that they could do no wrong.

ABC News:

‘Investigation launched into alleged flare gun fight after fire at nightclub in Russia’s Kostroma kills 15 people’

‘Local authorities believe the fire started after someone used the flare gun during an argument. ‘

Is the victory of Ukraine over Russia inevitable or what?

The amber room

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Room

Callide powerstation went dark Thursday

https://www.afr.com/companies/energy/callide-power-station-stumble-stokes-summer-blackout-fears-20221104-p5bvp4

I dare say as the weather warms up more stress will be put on the energy system.

The only way to curtail energy use and still bring in an extra 200,000 new migrants all needing power and water is to make power and water much more expensive. It’s a win win, no power outages due to overload and more tax revenue for a hungry government to squander on stupid things.

A Joke from Putin:

A German kid asks his father: “Father, why is the house so cold?”
The father replies: “Because Russia attacked Ukraine”
Kid: “But what does that have to do with us?”
Father: “We imposed sanctions against Russia”
Kid: “Why”
Father: “To make Russians feel bad”
Kid: “Dad, are we Russians?”
Chuckles

Probably needs a little work on substance, structure, (and timing)…

A Russian kid asks his mother: “Mother, where is Dad?”
Mother: “Your dad’s dead”
Son: “How did he die?”
Mother: “He died a glorious death in another country defending the motherland from weaponized moscuitos, Satanists and Nazis so we could have a new Lada”
Son: “We have a Lada?”
Mother: “No we don’t, but we will when the production line starts up again. Now, go outside and dig a new toilet trench, it’s time for bed”

“On November 2 an entire Russian battalion made up by newly mobilized conscripts from Voronezh was wiped out near Makiivka, Luhansk. The commanding officers ran away. Out of 570 only 41 survived. As expected, they are cannon fodder.”

Dark Orange said:

“On November 2 an entire Russian battalion made up by newly mobilized conscripts from Voronezh was wiped out near Makiivka, Luhansk. The commanding officers ran away. Out of 570 only 41 survived. As expected, they are cannon fodder.”

Pootin will be running short of food for the cannons soon.

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

“On November 2 an entire Russian battalion made up by newly mobilized conscripts from Voronezh was wiped out near Makiivka, Luhansk. The commanding officers ran away. Out of 570 only 41 survived. As expected, they are cannon fodder.”

Pootin will be running short of food for the cannons soon.

Nah, Before the war started, Russia’s major exports were energy and agriculture. They can feed themselves easily enough and have plenty of surplus for export. They will not run out of food any time soon.

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

“On November 2 an entire Russian battalion made up by newly mobilized conscripts from Voronezh was wiped out near Makiivka, Luhansk. The commanding officers ran away. Out of 570 only 41 survived. As expected, they are cannon fodder.”

Pootin will be running short of food for the cannons soon.

Nah, Before the war started, Russia’s major exports were energy and agriculture. They can feed themselves easily enough and have plenty of surplus for export. They will not run out of food any time soon.

Food for cannons.. People to be sent to die. They won’t be using any of the food Russia has for them.

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

Pootin will be running short of food for the cannons soon.

Nah, Before the war started, Russia’s major exports were energy and agriculture. They can feed themselves easily enough and have plenty of surplus for export. They will not run out of food any time soon.

Food for cannons.. People to be sent to die. They won’t be using any of the food Russia has for them.

Ah.. OK.

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

Pootin will be running short of food for the cannons soon.

Nah, Before the war started, Russia’s major exports were energy and agriculture. They can feed themselves easily enough and have plenty of surplus for export. They will not run out of food any time soon.

Food for cannons.. People to be sent to die. They won’t be using any of the food Russia has for them.

Yup. Sending all the able bodied breeding aged males off to be killed is a great way to deal with your negative population growth rate.

Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Nah, Before the war started, Russia’s major exports were energy and agriculture. They can feed themselves easily enough and have plenty of surplus for export. They will not run out of food any time soon.

Food for cannons.. People to be sent to die. They won’t be using any of the food Russia has for them.

Yup. Sending all the able bodied breeding aged males off to be killed is a great way to deal with your negative population growth rate.

Yeah. Also, over half a million have fled the country.

Dark Orange said:

“On November 2 an entire Russian battalion made up by newly mobilized conscripts from Voronezh was wiped out near Makiivka, Luhansk. The commanding officers ran away. Out of 570 only 41 survived. As expected, they are cannon fodder.”

Found an English translation:

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/11/5/7375139/

“We were dumped into the forest and ordered to entrench; we had only three shovels for the battalion, and there was no support at all. We entrenched as best we could, and in the morning the attack started. artillery, Grad MLRS, mortars and copters; we were just shot.

When it all started, the officers immediately ran away. In between the attacks, we tried to entrench, but the copters immediately spotted us and just shot us. Out of 570 people, 29 managed to survive, 12 more were wounded, and the rest are all dead”.

Agafonov also added that before this incident, at least one other battalion of conscripts was destroyed at the same position.

party_pants said:

Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Food for cannons.. People to be sent to die. They won’t be using any of the food Russia has for them.

Yup. Sending all the able bodied breeding aged males off to be killed is a great way to deal with your negative population growth rate.

Yeah. Also, over half a million have fled the country.

It’s not males that are the issue in this case.

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

Dark Orange said:

Yup. Sending all the able bodied breeding aged males off to be killed is a great way to deal with your negative population growth rate.

Yeah. Also, over half a million have fled the country.

It’s not males that are the issue in this case.

at least the long term environmental footprint will decrease

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

“On November 2 an entire Russian battalion made up by newly mobilized conscripts from Voronezh was wiped out near Makiivka, Luhansk. The commanding officers ran away. Out of 570 only 41 survived. As expected, they are cannon fodder.”

Pootin will be running short of food for the cannons soon.

¡ the good news is that the food for the remaining people will go further !

Tens of thousands of Italians have marched through Rome calling for peace in Ukraine and urging Italy to stop sending of weapons to fight the Russian invasion.

Agence France-Presse reported that one large banner carried by protesters on Saturday read “No to war. No to sending weapons” as a vast crowd broke into cries of “give peace a chance”.

Italy, a founding member of Nato, has supported Ukraine from the start of the war, including providing it with arms. The new far-right prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, has said that will not change and the government has said it is expecting to send more weapons soon.

But some, including former prime minister Giuseppe Conte, have said Italy should be stepping up negotiations instead.

The peace rally was attended by about 30,000 people, Rome police told Italian media.

Demonstrator Roberto Zanotto told AFP:

The weapons were sent at the beginning on the grounds that this would prevent an escalation

Nine months later and it seems to me that there’s been an escalation. Look at the facts: sending weapons does not help stop a war, weapons help fuel a war.

Student Sara Gianpietro said the conflict was being dragged out by arming Ukraine, which “has economic consequences for our country, but for the respect of human rights too”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/nov/06/russia-ukraine-war-live-besieged-bakhmut-harder-and-harder-to-survive-in-says-official

sibeen said:

Tens of thousands of Italians have marched through Rome calling for peace in Ukraine and urging Italy to stop sending of weapons to fight the Russian invasion.

Agence France-Presse reported that one large banner carried by protesters on Saturday read “No to war. No to sending weapons” as a vast crowd broke into cries of “give peace a chance”.

Italy, a founding member of Nato, has supported Ukraine from the start of the war, including providing it with arms. The new far-right prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, has said that will not change and the government has said it is expecting to send more weapons soon.

But some, including former prime minister Giuseppe Conte, have said Italy should be stepping up negotiations instead.

The peace rally was attended by about 30,000 people, Rome police told Italian media.

Demonstrator Roberto Zanotto told AFP:

The weapons were sent at the beginning on the grounds that this would prevent an escalation

Nine months later and it seems to me that there’s been an escalation. Look at the facts: sending weapons does not help stop a war, weapons help fuel a war.

Student Sara Gianpietro said the conflict was being dragged out by arming Ukraine, which “has economic consequences for our country, but for the respect of human rights too”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/nov/06/russia-ukraine-war-live-besieged-bakhmut-harder-and-harder-to-survive-in-says-official

I get it. … Italic.

sibeen said:

Tens of thousands of Italians have marched through Rome calling for peace in Ukraine and urging Italy to stop sending of weapons to fight the Russian invasion.

Agence France-Presse reported that one large banner carried by protesters on Saturday read “No to war. No to sending weapons” as a vast crowd broke into cries of “give peace a chance”.

Italy, a founding member of Nato, has supported Ukraine from the start of the war, including providing it with arms. The new far-right prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, has said that will not change and the government has said it is expecting to send more weapons soon.

But some, including former prime minister Giuseppe Conte, have said Italy should be stepping up negotiations instead.

The peace rally was attended by about 30,000 people, Rome police told Italian media.

Demonstrator Roberto Zanotto told AFP:

The weapons were sent at the beginning on the grounds that this would prevent an escalation

Nine months later and it seems to me that there’s been an escalation. Look at the facts: sending weapons does not help stop a war, weapons help fuel a war.

Student Sara Gianpietro said the conflict was being dragged out by arming Ukraine, which “has economic consequences for our country, but for the respect of human rights too”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/nov/06/russia-ukraine-war-live-besieged-bakhmut-harder-and-harder-to-survive-in-says-official

Hard to imagine people can be so barking mad. Even for Italians.

dv said:

sibeen said:

Tens of thousands of Italians have marched through Rome calling for peace in Ukraine and urging Italy to stop sending of weapons to fight the Russian invasion.

Agence France-Presse reported that one large banner carried by protesters on Saturday read “No to war. No to sending weapons” as a vast crowd broke into cries of “give peace a chance”.

Italy, a founding member of Nato, has supported Ukraine from the start of the war, including providing it with arms. The new far-right prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, has said that will not change and the government has said it is expecting to send more weapons soon.

But some, including former prime minister Giuseppe Conte, have said Italy should be stepping up negotiations instead.

The peace rally was attended by about 30,000 people, Rome police told Italian media.

Demonstrator Roberto Zanotto told AFP:

The weapons were sent at the beginning on the grounds that this would prevent an escalation

Nine months later and it seems to me that there’s been an escalation. Look at the facts: sending weapons does not help stop a war, weapons help fuel a war.

Student Sara Gianpietro said the conflict was being dragged out by arming Ukraine, which “has economic consequences for our country, but for the respect of human rights too”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/nov/06/russia-ukraine-war-live-besieged-bakhmut-harder-and-harder-to-survive-in-says-official

I get it. … Italic.

Well spotted.

“Pro-Russian Vostok battalion commander Aleksandr Khodakovsky states that 60% of Russian losses during the siege of Mariupol were due to friendly fire, describes several wild situations, such as when engineers mined a path behind a forward advancing unit.”

Original post (in Russian) here:

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif/2472

Dark Orange said:

“Pro-Russian Vostok battalion commander Aleksandr Khodakovsky states that 60% of Russian losses during the siege of Mariupol were due to friendly fire, describes several wild situations, such as when engineers mined a path behind a forward advancing unit.”

Original post (in Russian) here:

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif/2472

hehehe

Points to Russies

hehehe

⚡ Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine (4 November 2022)

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.

💥 High-precision armament of Russian Aerospace Forces has neutralised the workshops designed for producing rocket motors in Pavlograd (Dnepropetrovsk region), as well as 3 workshops at ‘Kommunar’ plant in Kharkov that was the venue for producing projectiles for multiple-launch systems.

💥 In Kupyansk direction, intensive action of Russian forces have resulted in frustrating the attempts of 2 enemy’s company tactical groups to launch an attack towards Berestovoye (Kharkov region), and Kuzemovka (Lugansk People’s Republic).

◽ Russian artillery and Army Aviation has neutralised the enemy. The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) have been driven back to their initial positions.

◽ Over 110 Ukrainian personnel, 3 tanks, 2 armoured fighting vehicles, 5 pickups, 14 Humvee and Kozak armoured motor vehicles have been eliminated.

💥 In Krasny Liman direction, 2 reinforced mechanised infantry battalions attempted to launch attacks towards Ploshchanka and Chervonopopovka (Lugansk People’s Republic).

◽ All the attacks have been successfully repelled by Russian forces.

◽ The enemy has suffered casualties of over 90 personnel killed and about 60 wounded, 4 tanks, 6 armoured fighting vehicles, and 12 motor vehicles.

💥 In Nikolayev–Krivoy Rog direction, the enemy has been neutralised by Russian artillery, Assault and Army Aviation.

◽ Over 95 Ukrainian personnel, 10 armoured fighting vehicles, and 10 multipurpose motor vehicles have been eliminated.

💥 Operational-Tactical and Army Aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery have neutralised 5 AFU command posts near Krasnogorovka, Nevelskoye, Pobeda (Donetsk People’s Republic), Novogrigoryevka, Mirnoye (Nikolayev region), as well as 87 artillery units at their firing positions, manpower and military equipment in 179 areas.

◽ A missile attack has resulted in the neutralisation of one of foreign mercenaries’ headquarters near Nikolayev.

◽ Moreover, 4 munitions depots have been destroyed near Novonikolayevka, Krasnoarmeysk, Seversk (Donetsk People’s Republic), and Novoaleksandrovka (Kherson region).

💥 Air defence facilities have shot down 4 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Aleksandrovka (Kherson region), and Dokuchayevsk (Donetsk People’s Republic).

◽ In addition, 9 projectiles launched by HIMARS, and 3 rockets launched by Uragan multiple-launch rocket systems have been intercepted near Chernobayevka (Kherson region).

📊 In total, 330 airplanes and 168 helicopters, 2,426 unmanned aerial vehicles, 384 air defence missile systems, 6,322 tanks and other armoured combat vehicles, 882 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 3,551 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 7,027 units of special military hardware have been destroyed during the special military operation.

US announces new $400M military aid package for Ukraine:

- 45 T-72B tanks from Czech Republic (US paying to upgrade optics and armor)
- 1,100 Phoenix Ghost drones
- 40 riverine boats
- Refurbishment of Hawk anti-air missiles
- 250 M117 armored vehicles

https://youtu.be/7gzu-CG1foQ

Moment Lancet struck a NATO howitzer

wookiemeister said:

⚡ Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine (4 November 2022)

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.

💥 High-precision armament of Russian Aerospace Forces has neutralised the workshops designed for producing rocket motors in Pavlograd (Dnepropetrovsk region), as well as 3 workshops at ‘Kommunar’ plant in Kharkov that was the venue for producing projectiles for multiple-launch systems.

💥 In Kupyansk direction, intensive action of Russian forces have resulted in frustrating the attempts of 2 enemy’s company tactical groups to launch an attack towards Berestovoye (Kharkov region), and Kuzemovka (Lugansk People’s Republic).

◽ Russian artillery and Army Aviation has neutralised the enemy. The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) have been driven back to their initial positions.

◽ Over 110 Ukrainian personnel, 3 tanks, 2 armoured fighting vehicles, 5 pickups, 14 Humvee and Kozak armoured motor vehicles have been eliminated.

💥 In Krasny Liman direction, 2 reinforced mechanised infantry battalions attempted to launch attacks towards Ploshchanka and Chervonopopovka (Lugansk People’s Republic).

◽ All the attacks have been successfully repelled by Russian forces.

◽ The enemy has suffered casualties of over 90 personnel killed and about 60 wounded, 4 tanks, 6 armoured fighting vehicles, and 12 motor vehicles.

💥 In Nikolayev–Krivoy Rog direction, the enemy has been neutralised by Russian artillery, Assault and Army Aviation.

◽ Over 95 Ukrainian personnel, 10 armoured fighting vehicles, and 10 multipurpose motor vehicles have been eliminated.

💥 Operational-Tactical and Army Aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery have neutralised 5 AFU command posts near Krasnogorovka, Nevelskoye, Pobeda (Donetsk People’s Republic), Novogrigoryevka, Mirnoye (Nikolayev region), as well as 87 artillery units at their firing positions, manpower and military equipment in 179 areas.

◽ A missile attack has resulted in the neutralisation of one of foreign mercenaries’ headquarters near Nikolayev.

◽ Moreover, 4 munitions depots have been destroyed near Novonikolayevka, Krasnoarmeysk, Seversk (Donetsk People’s Republic), and Novoaleksandrovka (Kherson region).

💥 Air defence facilities have shot down 4 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Aleksandrovka (Kherson region), and Dokuchayevsk (Donetsk People’s Republic).

◽ In addition, 9 projectiles launched by HIMARS, and 3 rockets launched by Uragan multiple-launch rocket systems have been intercepted near Chernobayevka (Kherson region).

📊 In total, 330 airplanes and 168 helicopters, 2,426 unmanned aerial vehicles, 384 air defence missile systems, 6,322 tanks and other armoured combat vehicles, 882 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 3,551 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 7,027 units of special military hardware have been destroyed during the special military operation.

How much of that do you actually believe?

wookiemeister said:

https://youtu.be/7gzu-CG1foQ

Moment Lancet struck a NATO howitzer

“Comments are turned off.”

I wonder why?

https://youtu.be/X81dqtrpumg

GENERAL DOUGLAS MACGREGOR

wookiemeister said:

US announces new $400M military aid package for Ukraine:

- 45 T-72B tanks from Czech Republic (US paying to upgrade optics and armor)
- 1,100 Phoenix Ghost drones
- 40 riverine boats
- Refurbishment of Hawk anti-air missiles
- 250 M117 armored vehicles

That’ll annoy Italian students.

Kingy said:

wookiemeister said:

https://youtu.be/7gzu-CG1foQ

Moment Lancet struck a NATO howitzer

“Comments are turned off.”

I wonder why?

Regardless of who owns the Howitzer, it’s operated by Ukrainians. And credit where credit is due, those Lancets are pretty effective.

Russia’s losses in Ukraine as of O6 Nov 2022

captain_spalding said:

Russia’s losses in Ukraine as of O6 Nov 2022

i doubt it

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSNuMQCrY2JsGvPaYUc3xA

Scott Ritter channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_nmZYa0hos

Link

15 Ukrainians are dying for every Russian dying Nov 5, 2022

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

Russia’s losses in Ukraine as of O6 Nov 2022

i doubt it

But all this is spot-on gospel truth, right?

⚡ Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine (4 November 2022)

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.

💥 High-precision armament of Russian Aerospace Forces has neutralised the workshops designed for producing rocket motors in Pavlograd (Dnepropetrovsk region), as well as 3 workshops at ‘Kommunar’ plant in Kharkov that was the venue for producing projectiles for multiple-launch systems.

💥 In Kupyansk direction, intensive action of Russian forces have resulted in frustrating the attempts of 2 enemy’s company tactical groups to launch an attack towards Berestovoye (Kharkov region), and Kuzemovka (Lugansk People’s Republic).

◽ Russian artillery and Army Aviation has neutralised the enemy. The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) have been driven back to their initial positions.

◽ Over 110 Ukrainian personnel, 3 tanks, 2 armoured fighting vehicles, 5 pickups, 14 Humvee and Kozak armoured motor vehicles have been eliminated.

💥 In Krasny Liman direction, 2 reinforced mechanised infantry battalions attempted to launch attacks towards Ploshchanka and Chervonopopovka (Lugansk People’s Republic).

◽ All the attacks have been successfully repelled by Russian forces.

◽ The enemy has suffered casualties of over 90 personnel killed and about 60 wounded, 4 tanks, 6 armoured fighting vehicles, and 12 motor vehicles.

💥 In Nikolayev–Krivoy Rog direction, the enemy has been neutralised by Russian artillery, Assault and Army Aviation.

◽ Over 95 Ukrainian personnel, 10 armoured fighting vehicles, and 10 multipurpose motor vehicles have been eliminated.

💥 Operational-Tactical and Army Aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery have neutralised 5 AFU command posts near Krasnogorovka, Nevelskoye, Pobeda (Donetsk People’s Republic), Novogrigoryevka, Mirnoye (Nikolayev region), as well as 87 artillery units at their firing positions, manpower and military equipment in 179 areas.

◽ A missile attack has resulted in the neutralisation of one of foreign mercenaries’ headquarters near Nikolayev.

◽ Moreover, 4 munitions depots have been destroyed near Novonikolayevka, Krasnoarmeysk, Seversk (Donetsk People’s Republic), and Novoaleksandrovka (Kherson region).

💥 Air defence facilities have shot down 4 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Aleksandrovka (Kherson region), and Dokuchayevsk (Donetsk People’s Republic).

◽ In addition, 9 projectiles launched by HIMARS, and 3 rockets launched by Uragan multiple-launch rocket systems have been intercepted near Chernobayevka (Kherson region).

📊 In total, 330 airplanes and 168 helicopters, 2,426 unmanned aerial vehicles, 384 air defence missile systems, 6,322 tanks and other armoured combat vehicles, 882 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 3,551 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 7,027 units of special military hardware have been destroyed during the special military operation.

JudgeMental said:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSNuMQCrY2JsGvPaYUc3xA

Scott Ritter channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_nmZYa0hos

Link

15 Ukrainians are dying for every Russian dying Nov 5, 2022

i didn’t want to introduce that notion, it would make people angry. baby steps

(i think its less than that on the russian side – they aren’t stupid or wasteful with their soldiers)

All I know is that there are a lot of Russian vehicles rusting away in pieces. That so many Ukranian residential buildings are in ruins and peoples cars shot to bits. I really haven’t seen as many Ukranian miltary vehicles broken and rusting.
I know there have been lots of mass burials of Ukranian citizens not unlike Hitler’s treatment of jews.

wookiemeister said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSNuMQCrY2JsGvPaYUc3xA

Scott Ritter channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_nmZYa0hos

Link

15 Ukrainians are dying for every Russian dying Nov 5, 2022

i didn’t want to introduce that notion, it would make people angry. baby steps

(i think its less than that on the russian side – they aren’t stupid or wasteful with their soldiers)

Bullshit.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

Russia’s losses in Ukraine as of O6 Nov 2022

i doubt it

But all this is spot-on gospel truth, right?

⚡ Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine (4 November 2022)

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.

💥 High-precision armament of Russian Aerospace Forces has neutralised the workshops designed for producing rocket motors in Pavlograd (Dnepropetrovsk region), as well as 3 workshops at ‘Kommunar’ plant in Kharkov that was the venue for producing projectiles for multiple-launch systems.

💥 In Kupyansk direction, intensive action of Russian forces have resulted in frustrating the attempts of 2 enemy’s company tactical groups to launch an attack towards Berestovoye (Kharkov region), and Kuzemovka (Lugansk People’s Republic).

◽ Russian artillery and Army Aviation has neutralised the enemy. The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) have been driven back to their initial positions.

◽ Over 110 Ukrainian personnel, 3 tanks, 2 armoured fighting vehicles, 5 pickups, 14 Humvee and Kozak armoured motor vehicles have been eliminated.

💥 In Krasny Liman direction, 2 reinforced mechanised infantry battalions attempted to launch attacks towards Ploshchanka and Chervonopopovka (Lugansk People’s Republic).

◽ All the attacks have been successfully repelled by Russian forces.

◽ The enemy has suffered casualties of over 90 personnel killed and about 60 wounded, 4 tanks, 6 armoured fighting vehicles, and 12 motor vehicles.

💥 In Nikolayev–Krivoy Rog direction, the enemy has been neutralised by Russian artillery, Assault and Army Aviation.

◽ Over 95 Ukrainian personnel, 10 armoured fighting vehicles, and 10 multipurpose motor vehicles have been eliminated.

💥 Operational-Tactical and Army Aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery have neutralised 5 AFU command posts near Krasnogorovka, Nevelskoye, Pobeda (Donetsk People’s Republic), Novogrigoryevka, Mirnoye (Nikolayev region), as well as 87 artillery units at their firing positions, manpower and military equipment in 179 areas.

◽ A missile attack has resulted in the neutralisation of one of foreign mercenaries’ headquarters near Nikolayev.

◽ Moreover, 4 munitions depots have been destroyed near Novonikolayevka, Krasnoarmeysk, Seversk (Donetsk People’s Republic), and Novoaleksandrovka (Kherson region).

💥 Air defence facilities have shot down 4 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Aleksandrovka (Kherson region), and Dokuchayevsk (Donetsk People’s Republic).

◽ In addition, 9 projectiles launched by HIMARS, and 3 rockets launched by Uragan multiple-launch rocket systems have been intercepted near Chernobayevka (Kherson region).

📊 In total, 330 airplanes and 168 helicopters, 2,426 unmanned aerial vehicles, 384 air defence missile systems, 6,322 tanks and other armoured combat vehicles, 882 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 3,551 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 7,027 units of special military hardware have been destroyed during the special military operation.

take it as you feel.

to my knowledge the campaign to destroy power networks continues

this is what will happen when australia gets more involved

the russians and chinese will just make us go dark – we don’t manufacture any power equipment (remember?) they won’t bother invading. after 6 months they will have a look and find about 5 million left. no power, no water, currency not worth dirt – no food deliveries right ?

the ukos are already talking of shifting people out of the darkened cities.

roughbarked said:

All I know is that there are a lot of Russian vehicles rusting away in pieces. That so many Ukranian residential buildings are in ruins and peoples cars shot to bits. I really haven’t seen as many Ukranian miltary vehicles broken and rusting.
I know there have been lots of mass burials of Ukranian citizens not unlike Hitler’s treatment of jews.

Katyn massacre.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Katyn-Massacre

roughbarked said:

All I know is that there are a lot of Russian vehicles rusting away in pieces. That so many Ukranian residential buildings are in ruins and peoples cars shot to bits. I really haven’t seen as many Ukranian miltary vehicles broken and rusting.
I know there have been lots of mass burials of Ukranian citizens not unlike Hitler’s treatment of jews.

There’s also stories of the Russians not being allowed to pick up the bodies of their comrades – no body, no compensation needing to be paid to the family.

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSNuMQCrY2JsGvPaYUc3xA

Scott Ritter channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_nmZYa0hos

Link

15 Ukrainians are dying for every Russian dying Nov 5, 2022

i didn’t want to introduce that notion, it would make people angry. baby steps

(i think its less than that on the russian side – they aren’t stupid or wasteful with their soldiers)

Bullshit.

Russia has always relied on ‘meat-grinder’ tactics. Their common soldiers have always been treated as being as expendable as a round of ammunition.

If your enemy has 1,000 bullets, you send 1,001 Russian soldiers to attack him.

A primary aspect of Russian military philosophy is now, and always has been, that whatever the materiel is, it need not be of good quality, but there should be lots of it, and you will win through weight of numbers.

Arrests and conviction for sex offences
Ritter was the subject in two law enforcement sting operations in 2001. He was charged in June 2001 with trying to set up a meeting with an undercover police officer posing as a 16-year-old girl. He was charged with a misdemeanor crime of “attempted endangerment of the welfare of a child”. The charge was dismissed and the record was sealed after he completed six months of pre-trial probation. After this information was made public in early 2003, Ritter said that the timing of the leak was politically motivated in order to silence his opposition to the Bush administration’s push toward war with Iraq.

Ritter was arrested again in November 2009 over communications with a police decoy he met on an Internet chat site. Police said that he exposed himself, via a web camera, after the officer repeatedly identified himself as a 15-year-old girl. Ritter said in his own testimony during the trial that he believed the other party was an adult acting out her fantasy. The chat room had an ‘age 18 and above’ policy, which Ritter stated to the undercover officer.

The next month, Ritter waived his right to a preliminary hearing and was released on a $25,000 unsecured bail. Charges included “unlawful contact with a minor, criminal use of a communications facility, corruption of minors, indecent exposure, possessing instruments of crime, criminal attempt and criminal solicitation”. Ritter rejected a plea bargain and was found guilty of all but the criminal attempt count in a courtroom in Monroe County, Pennsylvania, on April 14, 2011.

In October 2011, he received a sentence of 1½ to 5½ years in prison. He was sent to Laurel Highlands state prison in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, in March 2012 and paroled in September 2014

australia has stepped up involvement in the ukraine war

they’ll need to tax HARD to pay for it

my guesses australia will go anything up to 50 billion dollars or maybe 100 billion to preserve ANZUS protection

when it becomes open warfare between russia and australia the hypersonic missiles will soar in and knock out the switchyards of the power stations – complicated, expensive and not easily available equipment.

australian cities go dark, a brief period of stunned silence then the mob starts attacking each other to get resources, society forms up on social/ racial lines. the police force and army no longer work. no one has heard from canberra for weeks.

but i’m sure things will be fine

wookiemeister said:

australia has stepped up involvement in the ukraine war

they’ll need to tax HARD to pay for it

my guesses australia will go anything up to 50 billion dollars or maybe 100 billion to preserve ANZUS protection

when it becomes open warfare between russia and australia the hypersonic missiles will soar in and knock out the switchyards of the power stations – complicated, expensive and not easily available equipment.

australian cities go dark, a brief period of stunned silence then the mob starts attacking each other to get resources, society forms up on social/ racial lines. the police force and army no longer work. no one has heard from canberra for weeks.

but i’m sure things will be fine

Well, the Chinese would certainly not be keen to see any disruption to the iron ore shipments.

JudgeMental said:

Arrests and conviction for sex offences
Ritter was the subject in two law enforcement sting operations in 2001. He was charged in June 2001 with trying to set up a meeting with an undercover police officer posing as a 16-year-old girl. He was charged with a misdemeanor crime of “attempted endangerment of the welfare of a child”. The charge was dismissed and the record was sealed after he completed six months of pre-trial probation. After this information was made public in early 2003, Ritter said that the timing of the leak was politically motivated in order to silence his opposition to the Bush administration’s push toward war with Iraq.

Ritter was arrested again in November 2009 over communications with a police decoy he met on an Internet chat site. Police said that he exposed himself, via a web camera, after the officer repeatedly identified himself as a 15-year-old girl. Ritter said in his own testimony during the trial that he believed the other party was an adult acting out her fantasy. The chat room had an ‘age 18 and above’ policy, which Ritter stated to the undercover officer.

The next month, Ritter waived his right to a preliminary hearing and was released on a $25,000 unsecured bail. Charges included “unlawful contact with a minor, criminal use of a communications facility, corruption of minors, indecent exposure, possessing instruments of crime, criminal attempt and criminal solicitation”. Ritter rejected a plea bargain and was found guilty of all but the criminal attempt count in a courtroom in Monroe County, Pennsylvania, on April 14, 2011.

In October 2011, he received a sentence of 1½ to 5½ years in prison. He was sent to Laurel Highlands state prison in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, in March 2012 and paroled in September 2014

yeah i saw that ages ago

weird right ?

my take on it, i take all sources and appraise them. ritter has nothing to lose, he’s already a pariah of sorts.

>>>15 Ukrainians are dying for every Russian dying Nov 5, 2022

Ukraine war: Who is winning?

Ukraine claims it has killed more than 50,000 Russian troops.

Ukraine has lost nearly 9,000 military personnel since the start of the conflict.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

australia has stepped up involvement in the ukraine war

they’ll need to tax HARD to pay for it

my guesses australia will go anything up to 50 billion dollars or maybe 100 billion to preserve ANZUS protection

when it becomes open warfare between russia and australia the hypersonic missiles will soar in and knock out the switchyards of the power stations – complicated, expensive and not easily available equipment.

australian cities go dark, a brief period of stunned silence then the mob starts attacking each other to get resources, society forms up on social/ racial lines. the police force and army no longer work. no one has heard from canberra for weeks.

but i’m sure things will be fine

Well, the Chinese would certainly not be keen to see any disruption to the iron ore shipments.

absolutely – they will just take the mines by landing troops there. they will stay away from the cities. any workers at the mines that won’t work for them just gets shot (assuming they wouldm’t just replace them with their own troops)

the RAAF no longer functions. all the diesel and kerosene has been taken. no fuel for the F18s . the F35s can assume to be non operative. after say a month or no power we can assume that the RAAF simply doesn’t exist anymore. the aircraft get pushed under shelter for a rainy day or flown further south

Tau.Neutrino said:

>>>15 Ukrainians are dying for every Russian dying Nov 5, 2022

Ukraine war: Who is winning?

Ukraine claims it has killed more than 50,000 Russian troops.

Ukraine has lost nearly 9,000 military personnel since the start of the conflict.

the ukos have lost MUCH more , i’d say over 100,000

Tau.Neutrino said:

>>>15 Ukrainians are dying for every Russian dying Nov 5, 2022

Ukraine war: Who is winning?

Ukraine claims it has killed more than 50,000 Russian troops.

Ukraine has lost nearly 9,000 military personnel since the start of the conflict.

imagine feeling so insecure as president that you have to send 50000 potential assassins to die on the front line of a manufactured war to consolidate your power

when the “invasion” eventually happens , if the chinese roll in we’ll just be eradicated

chinese populations will be fine, everyone non chinese will get a bullet in them.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

australia has stepped up involvement in the ukraine war

they’ll need to tax HARD to pay for it

my guesses australia will go anything up to 50 billion dollars or maybe 100 billion to preserve ANZUS protection

when it becomes open warfare between russia and australia the hypersonic missiles will soar in and knock out the switchyards of the power stations – complicated, expensive and not easily available equipment.

australian cities go dark, a brief period of stunned silence then the mob starts attacking each other to get resources, society forms up on social/ racial lines. the police force and army no longer work. no one has heard from canberra for weeks.

but i’m sure things will be fine

Well, the Chinese would certainly not be keen to see any disruption to the iron ore shipments.

you know what they say about The Economy Must Grow anyway, second hand goods aren’t value added, so better to get some churn going and burn off the old materiel, replacements do count towards GDP so it’s all good

oh yes

it might surprise you but the chinese gov WON“T be handing out centrelink money to anyone that won’t work

you might have a military court to admin law and order. executions and the like

the oil refineries would also be on the list first.

the military bases would be out of fuel within weeks

the generators at the hospitals would eventually run out

medical supplies will run out within weeks without strict rationing

we could expect water borne diseases to return

one way to prepare would be to encourage the population to get vaccinated with all kinds of things BEFORE the war to give herd immunity

stock piling vaccines around the nation would be another option

in the event of war you continue with the vaccination programme with all viable elements of the population.

those with off grid solar systems could be used to boil water so its safe to drink

safe drinking water would keep casualties down

you’d use some clean water to wash you face and arse

maybe stockpiles of soap would be another option

creating stockpiles of simple fermentation equipment would be another essential equipment – you use the alcohol to disinfect and the methanol as a fuel for heating?

the response by the chinese might be that they take the mines that are to the north – too far for whats left of the RAAF

the base at weipa would be bombed and the aluminium mine be taken over. no one would be getting any handouts, the population of weipa would drop to zero ? the whites would leave the aboriginals might stay – as long as they don;t interfere with the chinese operation they will be ok. marshal law would see them being shot if they started on the chinese working there.

the road south to cairns is passable – in winter, its dry. if the war comes in summer theres a good chance it would be hard for the town population to get out – the gov might not waste valuable av gas to evacuate.

the agreement might be that china takes the northern part of australia and parts of WA with the iron ore mines. the australian gov gets to control everyone behind that line. though

coal is dug up and give to china as tribute not to bomb us again

Maybe you should take up writing science fiction. Someone might read it, you never know.

roughbarked said:

Maybe you should take up writing science fiction. Someone might read it, you never know.

its really just following logical outcomes

this happens , then that will happen

if you knock out power systems its obvious that populations will migrate out of the cities in ukraines situation for example. call me pessimistic a putin stooge but thats how things work.

the best option is not to go down the path of war in the first place

our best option is to stay out of it

if people want to go and fight for ukraine (or anyone else) let them go

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

Maybe you should take up writing science fiction. Someone might read it, you never know.

its really just following logical outcomes

this happens , then that will happen

if you knock out power systems its obvious that populations will migrate out of the cities in ukraines situation for example. call me pessimistic a putin stooge but thats how things work.

That was the plan but they are still there and still fighting.
so the greatest plans of mice and men and all that. It is a fail and had no real way of turning that around.

wookiemeister said:

the best option is not to go down the path of war in the first place

our best option is to stay out of it

if people want to go and fight for ukraine (or anyone else) let them go

Should have told Poocan that.

He’s gone and shat his pants all over the place.
God isn’t on his side after all.

wookiemeister said:

the best option is not to go down the path of war in the first place

Oh, who decided that it was a good idea to do that?

Kingy said:

wookiemeister said:

the best option is not to go down the path of war in the first place

Oh, who decided that it was a good idea to do that?

not me.

JudgeMental said:

Kingy said:

wookiemeister said:

the best option is not to go down the path of war in the first place

Oh, who decided that it was a good idea to do that?

not me.

so i take it you are donating 100,000 dollars of your own money to zelensky ?

gone

Kyiv Planning for Total Evacuation if It Loses Electricity
The city is also establishing 1,000 heating centers for its 3 million residents, as Russia pounds away at civilian targets.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/05/world/europe/kyiv-ukraine-electricity-russia-infrastructure.html

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

Maybe you should take up writing science fiction. Someone might read it, you never know.

its really just following logical outcomes

this happens , then that will happen

if you knock out power systems its obvious that populations will migrate out of the cities in ukraines situation for example. call me pessimistic a putin stooge but thats how things work.

Umm your nutty predictions about past conflicts have never eventuated. Your contribution to the forum is more or less jerking off in your own shit.

Dark Orange said:

Still not clicking on twitter. Mobs of twits was never really an option I’d sit in on. It got worse when the biggest twit of all bought into it.

I know it is just a platform but that’s all his mate old shit-can has got too.

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Still not clicking on twitter. Mobs of twits was never really an option I’d sit in on. It got worse when the biggest twit of all bought into it.

I know it is just a platform but that’s all his mate old shit-can has got too.

The majority of the news from Ukraine comes from Telegram channels, and Twitter is where those posts are collated and translated.

By the time the info reaches the news services, it has been massaged to fit narratives.

If there is an alternative source, I link it but there generally isn’t.

Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Still not clicking on twitter. Mobs of twits was never really an option I’d sit in on. It got worse when the biggest twit of all bought into it.

I know it is just a platform but that’s all his mate old shit-can has got too.

The majority of the news from Ukraine comes from Telegram channels, and Twitter is where those posts are collated and translated.

By the time the info reaches the news services, it has been massaged to fit narratives.

If there is an alternative source, I link it but there generally isn’t.

No worries. I’ll eventually get the news somehow.

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Still not clicking on twitter. Mobs of twits was never really an option I’d sit in on. It got worse when the biggest twit of all bought into it.

I know it is just a platform but that’s all his mate old shit-can has got too.

The majority of the news from Ukraine comes from Telegram channels, and Twitter is where those posts are collated and translated.

By the time the info reaches the news services, it has been massaged to fit narratives.

If there is an alternative source, I link it but there generally isn’t.

No worries. I’ll eventually get the news somehow.

Aljazeera seems to do a fairly responsible job of reporting:

https://www.aljazeera.com/where/ukraine/

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

The majority of the news from Ukraine comes from Telegram channels, and Twitter is where those posts are collated and translated.

By the time the info reaches the news services, it has been massaged to fit narratives.

If there is an alternative source, I link it but there generally isn’t.

No worries. I’ll eventually get the news somehow.

Aljazeera seems to do a fairly responsible job of reporting:

https://www.aljazeera.com/where/ukraine/

Thanks.

“Russian occupation forces accused Ukraine of a “terrorist attack” on the Beryslav-Kakhovka power line, which resulted in the loss of electricity and water supply in several districts of Kherson Oblast.”

….wait, is attacking the power distribution terrorism now?

Dark Orange said:

“Russian occupation forces accused Ukraine of a “terrorist attack” on the Beryslav-Kakhovka power line, which resulted in the loss of electricity and water supply in several districts of Kherson Oblast.”

….wait, is attacking the power distribution terrorism now?

Only if done by supposed Nazis. God is apparently condoning the Russian atrocities.

Yup, Russians are taking out 100 Ukes for every one they lose. /sarcasm

1/ The Russian news outlet Verstka reported yesterday that hundreds of mobilised Russian soldiers have died on the front line. TV Rain has independently corroborated it, reporting that officers told the men “You are meat, that’s why you were brought here.” Translation follows.

2/ TV Rain spoke to the relatives of two other fighters who survived and tried to reconstruct a picture of the fighting.

3/ Aleksandr, from the Voronezh region, was mobilised on 16 October. Two weeks later, on 31 October, he was taken to a unit in the town of Valuyki in the Belgorod region, says his sister Yulia, who asked not to give her last name.

4/ Soon her brother called her to say that they were being taken to the Luhansk region, after which contact with him was lost.

5/ The next time Aleksandr was able to call was on 5 November. He said that on 1 November they were brought to Luhansk oblast and immediately sent to the front line. “The commanders said that you are meat, that’s why you were brought here, you will all be killed anyway.”

6/ “They gave them one sapper shovel for 30 men and told them to dig their own trenches,” says Yulia, her brother. After that, the commanders told the men that they were going to fetch food for them, and left. Forty minutes later, the mobilised men began to be bombed.

7/ The shelling continued for three days. “They had no weapons, nothing. They were given four grenades, they were digging the ground with their hands,” says Ekaterina Brazhnikova, the sister of another mobilised man.

8/ Her brother Viktor Stegantsev was also drafted in the Voronezh region, and later ended up in the same battalion in Valuyki as Aleksandr.

According to Ekaterina, there were more than 500 people in the battalion that was deployed from Valuyki to the Luhansk region.

10/ The survivors reached Svatove, from where they called their relatives. There, they are housed in groups in abandoned houses, according to Yulia. As soon as they try to go out, they start getting shot at.

11/ “They are sitting in a house of some kind, the commander came back to them and said: “You will come back from here as mincemeat”,” says Katerina, quoting her brother’s words.

12/ The fighters whose relatives were interviewed by TV Rain find it difficult to name the exact place where they came under fire.

13/ Survivors’ accounts, collected by Verstka, refer to Makiivka, a settlement located about 30 km southwest of Svatove, in the direction from the border of the Belgorod region, where the battalion came from, to the border of the Kharkiv region.

14/ The Russian Defence Ministry’s official briefs for 30 and 31 October provide almost identical text stating that “the enemy attempted to conduct offensives” in the direction of Makiivka, but “all attacks were repelled”.

15/ From 1 to 3 November, the Ministry of Defence reports that attempts by the Ukrainian armed forces to attack near Makiivka were foiled and the enemy “as a result of active action by Russian troops and artillery” were pushed back “to their initial positions”.
16/ The report for 4, 5 and 6 November no longer mentions Makiivka. /end

I hope for his mother’s sake he had brothers.

Russian priest Mikhail Vasilyev, who had suggested to Russian mothers to give birth to more children so they would not be afraid to send their adult sons to #ussia’s war against Ukraine, was just killed in Ukraine.

From UK Ministry of Defence:

Just like WW2 all over again.

captain_spalding said:

From UK Ministry of Defence:

Just like WW2 all over again.

Russian mobilised soldiers continue to surrender around Svatove.
They report that their commanders abandoned them the minute the fighting started.

Some groups were even shelling each other for days on end…

Friendly fire becomes a big issue for mobilised Russian units as they have little to no communication and no commanding officers.

So essentially they have no idea who they are shooting at and who is friendly or not.

Dark Orange said:

captain_spalding said:

From UK Ministry of Defence:

Just like WW2 all over again.

Russian mobilised soldiers continue to surrender around Svatove.
They report that their commanders abandoned them the minute the fighting started.

Some groups were even shelling each other for days on end…

Friendly fire becomes a big issue for mobilised Russian units as they have little to no communication and no commanding officers.

So essentially they have no idea who they are shooting at and who is friendly or not.

LOL…

“uide to friendly fire for Russians” – if you are being hit with accurate fire, it’s from Ukrainians. If incoming fire is missing you by hundreds of meters, it’s friendly fire.

Dark Orange said:

Russian mobilised soldiers continue to surrender around Svatove.
They report that their commanders abandoned them the minute the fighting started.

Some groups were even shelling each other for days on end…

Friendly fire becomes a big issue for mobilised Russian units as they have little to no communication and no commanding officers.

So essentially they have no idea who they are shooting at and who is friendly or not.

Sounds like fun. Pity they can’t just do that in the back blocks of Siberia for a while and leave Ukraine alone.

Dark Orange said:

captain_spalding said:

From UK Ministry of Defence:

Just like WW2 all over again.

Russian mobilised soldiers continue to surrender around Svatove.
They report that their commanders abandoned them the minute the fighting started.

Some groups were even shelling each other for days on end…

Friendly fire becomes a big issue for mobilised Russian units as they have little to no communication and no commanding officers.

So essentially they have no idea who they are shooting at and who is friendly or not.

The rail line from Moscow south through Voronezh and into Svatove and then to points farther south has almost certainly been cut by Ukrainian advances in the area around Kupiansk.

That puts further pressure and restriction on Russian supply. If any kind of Ukrainian offensive is successful in pushing farther east in that area, the line through Starobilsk will be under threat too. But that’s going to need a big push, and favourable conditions for the Ukrainians.

The exhumation work at the mass burial site in the Izyum Forest has been completed.

Out of 447 bodies, 30 had marks of severe torture.

Several men had been castrated.

– 215 women – 194 men – 5 children – 22 Ukrainian soldiers

Now, on to Kherson…

Dark Orange said:

The exhumation work at the mass burial site in the Izyum Forest has been completed.

Out of 447 bodies, 30 had marks of severe torture.

Several men had been castrated.

– 215 women – 194 men – 5 children – 22 Ukrainian soldiers

Now, on to Kherson…

I take everything out of the mouths of uko forces as propaganda I’m afraid. I’d say more but it’s a brick wall.

captain_spalding said:

Dark Orange said:

captain_spalding said:

From UK Ministry of Defence:

Just like WW2 all over again.

Russian mobilised soldiers continue to surrender around Svatove.
They report that their commanders abandoned them the minute the fighting started.

Some groups were even shelling each other for days on end…

Friendly fire becomes a big issue for mobilised Russian units as they have little to no communication and no commanding officers.

So essentially they have no idea who they are shooting at and who is friendly or not.

The rail line from Moscow south through Voronezh and into Svatove and then to points farther south has almost certainly been cut by Ukrainian advances in the area around Kupiansk.

That puts further pressure and restriction on Russian supply. If any kind of Ukrainian offensive is successful in pushing farther east in that area, the line through Starobilsk will be under threat too. But that’s going to need a big push, and favourable conditions for the Ukrainians.

Geez they’ll be in Moscow by Xmas.

The only noteworthy thing is the weather – missile season will be over in a few weeks once the ground hardens.

wookiemeister said:

The only noteworthy thing is the weather – missile season will be over in a few weeks once the ground hardens.

Why’s that Wookie?

wookiemeister said:

Dark Orange said:

The exhumation work at the mass burial site in the Izyum Forest has been completed.

Out of 447 bodies, 30 had marks of severe torture.

Several men had been castrated.

– 215 women – 194 men – 5 children – 22 Ukrainian soldiers

Now, on to Kherson…

I take everything out of the mouths of uko forces as propaganda I’m afraid. I’d say more but it’s a brick wall.

Yeah cos you’re an idiot.

Peak Warming Man said:

wookiemeister said:

The only noteworthy thing is the weather – missile season will be over in a few weeks once the ground hardens.

Why’s that Wookie?

Vitrification from the heat of nuclear weapons…

German Jewish leader urges Jews to move to Israel, cites antisemitism

https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-721957

Smart guy.

The wolf does not change its fur.

Peak Warming Man said:

wookiemeister said:

The only noteworthy thing is the weather – missile season will be over in a few weeks once the ground hardens.

Why’s that Wookie?

Its the deciding factor

Its decided TWO major invasions of Russia

The first invasion , a European coalition of forces under Napoleon got its knocked out by the weather.

The second invasion by a German led coalition suffered the same fate – general mud , then general ice got them.

Russia has most likely prepared for this event

Making 1.5 million artillery shells since early 2000s

They make practically ALL types of weapon from infantry rifle to hypersonic nuclear missiles.

If Australia wants to have a pop at Russia be my guess – just don’t expect any power, water , fuel / food within a few weeks.

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

Dark Orange said:

The exhumation work at the mass burial site in the Izyum Forest has been completed.

Out of 447 bodies, 30 had marks of severe torture.

Several men had been castrated.

– 215 women – 194 men – 5 children – 22 Ukrainian soldiers

Now, on to Kherson…

I take everything out of the mouths of uko forces as propaganda I’m afraid. I’d say more but it’s a brick wall.

Yeah cos you’re an idiot.

We’ll see.

Considering Australia makes fuck all weapons and chooses to aggravate China and Russia…..

wookiemeister said:

Peak Warming Man said:

wookiemeister said:

The only noteworthy thing is the weather – missile season will be over in a few weeks once the ground hardens.

Why’s that Wookie?

Its the deciding factor

Its decided TWO major invasions of Russia

The first invasion , a European coalition of forces under Napoleon got its knocked out by the weather.

The second invasion by a German led coalition suffered the same fate – general mud , then general ice got them.

The ground fighting may stop but the use of cruise missiles will continue by both sides at targets of opportunity.
Over.

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

I take everything out of the mouths of uko forces as propaganda I’m afraid. I’d say more but it’s a brick wall.

Yeah cos you’re an idiot.

We’ll see.

Considering Australia makes fuck all weapons and chooses to aggravate China and Russia…..

No we won’t see cos when Ukraine wins you’ll bugger off to lick your wounds without for a second contemplating why over and over again your crazy predictions never eventuate. Then one day you’ll return with some new absurdities as though the bullshit that comes out of your mouth has any redeeming value besides comic relief.

wookiemeister said:

Peak Warming Man said:

wookiemeister said:

The only noteworthy thing is the weather – missile season will be over in a few weeks once the ground hardens.

Why’s that Wookie?

Its the deciding factor

Its decided TWO major invasions of Russia

The first invasion , a European coalition of forces under Napoleon got its knocked out by the weather.

The second invasion by a German led coalition suffered the same fate – general mud , then general ice got them.

I doubt the Ukrainians will bother striking out north-east towards Moscow, Their targets will be far more modest, like Crimea, Rostov-on-Don and Sochi. After that maybe a small eastern incursion towards Vladivostok and the Kuril Islands. But definitely not Moscow.

Peak Warming Man said:

wookiemeister said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Why’s that Wookie?

Its the deciding factor

Its decided TWO major invasions of Russia

The first invasion , a European coalition of forces under Napoleon got its knocked out by the weather.

The second invasion by a German led coalition suffered the same fate – general mud , then general ice got them.

The ground fighting may stop but the use of cruise missiles will continue by both sides at targets of opportunity.
Over.

don’t think the Ukrainians have cruise missiles. plus doesn’t sound good for the russian invaders.

wookiemeister said:

Geez they’ll be in Moscow by Xmas.

The Ukrainians don’t want to go to Moscow.

They just want the Russians to go to Moscow. Or Smolensk. Or Perm.

Anywhere, as long as it isn’t in Ukraine.

wookiemeister said:

Dark Orange said:

The exhumation work at the mass burial site in the Izyum Forest has been completed.

Out of 447 bodies, 30 had marks of severe torture.

Several men had been castrated.

– 215 women – 194 men – 5 children – 22 Ukrainian soldiers

Now, on to Kherson…

I take everything out of the mouths of uko forces as propaganda I’m afraid. I’d say more but it’s a brick wall.

Of course you don’t. But you can bet that the Ukes will be doing this all very transparently with observers with the intention of presenting the evidence to the ICC.

wookiemeister said:

Russia has most likely prepared for this event

Making 1.5 million artillery shells since early 2000s

They make practically ALL types of weapon from infantry rifle to hypersonic nuclear missiles.

If Australia wants to have a pop at Russia be my guess – just don’t expect any power, water , fuel / food within a few weeks.

Is that why they are flying cash to Iran to buy missiles? (Iran won’t even give them credit, LOL)

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

Geez they’ll be in Moscow by Xmas.

The Ukrainians don’t want to go to Moscow.

They just want the Russians to go to Moscow. Or Smolensk. Or Perm.

Anywhere, as long as it isn’t in Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/dw_politics/status/1582654058719981568

I mean, it’s not like there wasn’t precedence…

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/2ip770/til_there_is_a_memorial_to_soviet_soldiers_in/

There is a memorial to Soviet Soldiers in Berlin, which has earned the nickname “Tomb of the unknown rapist”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpU5DKR2BBs Easy click link here.

lecture on Geopolitics from George Friedman. Very recent and topical.

runs for 47 minutes, he speaks for about 30 and the rest is audience questions. I found his talk very interesting.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

Geez they’ll be in Moscow by Xmas.

The Ukrainians don’t want to go to Moscow.

They just want the Russians to go to Moscow. Or Smolensk. Or Perm.

Anywhere, as long as it isn’t in Ukraine.

Just taken a break from watching “the battle of britain”

Something came to me whilst watching it

I couldn’t think of a more stupid thing than to provoke the Russians to mobilise their army and then start fighting them on the eastern front

All these nice men in RAF uniforms would probably tell you that the west is mad to fight them ( let alone fund, arm and train nazis). It’s funny how things have changed ( I haven’t).

The most galling thing is no subtitles was Goering shouting from the train window – I’ve got no idea what he was saying.

wookiemeister said:

The most galling thing is no subtitles was Goering shouting from the train window – I’ve got no idea what he was saying.

You could try running it through a German lip reading computer.

I should have become a scientist.

I could have done things differently.

I should not have stolen so many artworks.

My time could have been spent better.

wookiemeister said:

Russia has most likely prepared for this event

Making 1.5 million artillery shells since early 2000s

They make practically ALL types of weapon from infantry rifle to hypersonic nuclear missiles.

If Australia wants to have a pop at Russia be my guess – just don’t expect any power, water , fuel / food within a few weeks.

But they have proved in Ukraine that the Russian army is inept and grossly overrated. Most of their soldiers are poorly trained and poorly equipped and their officers don’t seem to have any professionalism and run away at the slightest provocation. The only thing Russia has is a lot of is nuclear weapons that they continually threaten other nations with. The truth be known, they are probably so old and poorly maintained, with anything that can be removed having been sold off to Iran, so they will no longer work as intended. Wookie you talk through the arse of the Kremlin that is as dirty, smelly and corrupt as it sounds.

Tau.Neutrino said:

wookiemeister said:

The most galling thing is no subtitles was Goering shouting from the train window – I’ve got no idea what he was saying.

You could try running it through a German lip reading computer.

I should have become a scientist.

I could have done things differently.

I should not have stolen so many artworks.

My time could have been spent better.

‘This is not the right train!’

‘Which way is Germany from here?’

‘I left my wallet in the taxi!’

‘I’ll ring you when i get there!’

‘It smells like fish in here!’

It is a bloodbath in Kherson for the russians. Thousands of russian soldiers are trapped there (some sources saying as high as 20k but I think it’s much less than that, maybe 4 or 5k), and they are struggling to evacuate, almost as if they haven’t been told the plan.

Dark Orange said:

It is a bloodbath in Kherson for the russians. Thousands of russian soldiers are trapped there (some sources saying as high as 20k but I think it’s much less than that, maybe 4 or 5k), and they are struggling to evacuate, almost as if they haven’t been told the plan.

I bet a lot are evacuating like hell atm.

Dark Orange said:

It is a bloodbath in Kherson for the russians. Thousands of russian soldiers are trapped there (some sources saying as high as 20k but I think it’s much less than that, maybe 4 or 5k), and they are struggling to evacuate, almost as if they haven’t been told the plan.

This is supposed to be the Ukrainian’s reaction to the situation, but unable to confirm.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KilledInUkraine/status/1590800449606934529

Environmental damage from the eight-month-old war with Russia is mounting in more of the country, with experts warning of long-term consequences.

Moscow’s attacks on fuel depots have released toxins into the air and groundwater, threatening biodiversity, climate stability and the health of the population.

Because of the war, more than six million Ukrainians have limited or no access to clean water, and more than 280,000 hectares of forests have been destroyed or felled, according to the World Wildlife Fund.

It has caused more than $55 billion in environmental damage, according to the Audit Chamber, a non-governmental group in the country.

“This pollution caused by the war will not go away. It will have to be solved by our descendants, to plant forests, or to clean the polluted rivers,” said Dmytro Averin, an environmental expert with Zoi Environment Network, a non-profit organisation based in Switzerland.

read more

Just thinking about the battle of britain film

The 3 CO s of the squadrons , only 1 survives. Robert Shaw is the hard man who survives, Michael Caine gets whacked fairly quickly leaving his dog behind, plummer gets burnt and never returns to service ( presumably his WAAF missus dumps him later on).

roughbarked said:

Environmental damage from the eight-month-old war with Russia is mounting in more of the country, with experts warning of long-term consequences.

Moscow’s attacks on fuel depots have released toxins into the air and groundwater, threatening biodiversity, climate stability and the health of the population.

Because of the war, more than six million Ukrainians have limited or no access to clean water, and more than 280,000 hectares of forests have been destroyed or felled, according to the World Wildlife Fund.

It has caused more than $55 billion in environmental damage, according to the Audit Chamber, a non-governmental group in the country.

“This pollution caused by the war will not go away. It will have to be solved by our descendants, to plant forests, or to clean the polluted rivers,” said Dmytro Averin, an environmental expert with Zoi Environment Network, a non-profit organisation based in Switzerland.

read more

Iraq has a depleted uranium problem, other chemicals unleashed by American forces plagues the iraqis to this day.

Vietnam : agent Orange

Cambodia: landlines

The Egyptian desert ww2 : landlines

Ww1 : UXBs

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

Environmental damage from the eight-month-old war with Russia is mounting in more of the country, with experts warning of long-term consequences.

Moscow’s attacks on fuel depots have released toxins into the air and groundwater, threatening biodiversity, climate stability and the health of the population.

Because of the war, more than six million Ukrainians have limited or no access to clean water, and more than 280,000 hectares of forests have been destroyed or felled, according to the World Wildlife Fund.

It has caused more than $55 billion in environmental damage, according to the Audit Chamber, a non-governmental group in the country.

“This pollution caused by the war will not go away. It will have to be solved by our descendants, to plant forests, or to clean the polluted rivers,” said Dmytro Averin, an environmental expert with Zoi Environment Network, a non-profit organisation based in Switzerland.

read more

Iraq has a depleted uranium problem, other chemicals unleashed by American forces plagues the iraqis to this day.

Vietnam : agent Orange

Cambodia: landlines

The Egyptian desert ww2 : landlines

Ww1 : UXBs

Kherson: Grenade based booby traps in houses.

The russians are only getting starting in ukraine

They are building up a force of perhaps 500,000 men fir the winter offensive. This train can’t be stopped now.

Dark Orange said:

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

Environmental damage from the eight-month-old war with Russia is mounting in more of the country, with experts warning of long-term consequences.

Moscow’s attacks on fuel depots have released toxins into the air and groundwater, threatening biodiversity, climate stability and the health of the population.

Because of the war, more than six million Ukrainians have limited or no access to clean water, and more than 280,000 hectares of forests have been destroyed or felled, according to the World Wildlife Fund.

It has caused more than $55 billion in environmental damage, according to the Audit Chamber, a non-governmental group in the country.

“This pollution caused by the war will not go away. It will have to be solved by our descendants, to plant forests, or to clean the polluted rivers,” said Dmytro Averin, an environmental expert with Zoi Environment Network, a non-profit organisation based in Switzerland.

read more

Iraq has a depleted uranium problem, other chemicals unleashed by American forces plagues the iraqis to this day.

Vietnam : agent Orange

Cambodia: landlines

The Egyptian desert ww2 : landlines

Ww1 : UXBs

Kherson: Grenade based booby traps in houses.

Possibly

Booby traps are part of war, the russians were complaining when ukraine was dropping thousands of petal mines on the cities. It’s old soviet stock. Anti personnel mines.

the amount of #whataboutism in this thread and the others is outstanding.

Kiev 11/5 cloudy
Kharkiv 7/5 cloudy
Kherson 9/3 cloudy
Lviv 11/7 cloudy

There’s still talk of building a grand armee to invade ukraine from the west ( presumably the yanks would need to perform a surprise attack on the airbases? Whether they’d survive the S300/S400/S500 is debatable).

Conditions weather becoming colder and presumably damp. 4 weeks from now the ground should be harder. We could assume the missile attacks will only get worse before the offensive

Bogsnorkler said:

the amount of #whataboutism in this thread and the others is outstanding.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone

I wonder where the next yank war will be?

wookiemeister said:

I wonder where the next yank war will be?

Capitol Hill.

Officer killed in EU capital terrorist attack
The attacker was shot by Brussels police and taken to the hospital after stabbing multiple officers

wookiemeister said:

Dark Orange said:

wookiemeister said:

Iraq has a depleted uranium problem, other chemicals unleashed by American forces plagues the iraqis to this day.

Vietnam : agent Orange

Cambodia: landlines

The Egyptian desert ww2 : landlines

Ww1 : UXBs

Kherson: Grenade based booby traps in houses.

Possibly

Booby traps are part of war, the russians were complaining when ukraine was dropping thousands of petal mines on the cities. It’s old soviet stock. Anti personnel mines.

Not possibly.
Booby traps in domestic dwellings is terrorism, not war. (Every liberated city has had to be de-loused so far)

Meanwhile, here is footage of Ukrainian troops surrounded in the centre of Kherson.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1591064777451003909

“Ukraine war latest: Crucial Kherson bridge ‘blown up’ by retreating Russians”

Although wounded a young Russian soldier who lied about his age so that he could fight for the Motherland managed, with his last breath, to push the plunger to blow the bridge as a train load of marauding Ukranian troops was crossing.
There’ll be medals and movie for sure.

Peak Warming Man said:

“Ukraine war latest: Crucial Kherson bridge ‘blown up’ by retreating Russians”

Although wounded a young Russian soldier who lied about his age so that he could fight for the Motherland managed, with his last breath, to push the plunger to blow the bridge as a train load of marauding Ukranian troops was crossing.
There’ll be medals and movie for sure.

Knowing the Russians, they probably blew it while their side was still on it.

You’d jump that in a Triton with a long enough runup.

Peak Warming Man said:

You’d jump that in a Triton with a long enough runup.

You would think the noise of it breaking might have woken them up. That reads as if it was “oh! look! Someone broke the bridge during the night and we slept right through it!”

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You’d jump that in a Triton with a long enough runup.

You would think the noise of it breaking might have woken them up. That reads as if it was “oh! look! Someone broke the bridge during the night and we slept right through it!”

And look what you made me do! Now I have to find your Wrong Thread thread…

buffy said:

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You’d jump that in a Triton with a long enough runup.

You would think the noise of it breaking might have woken them up. That reads as if it was “oh! look! Someone broke the bridge during the night and we slept right through it!”

And look what you made me do! Now I have to find your Wrong Thread thread…

I’ve really messed this up, haven’t I. Must be the smell of the lamb shanks baking that is addling my brain.

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You’d jump that in a Triton with a long enough runup.

You would think the noise of it breaking might have woken them up. That reads as if it was “oh! look! Someone broke the bridge during the night and we slept right through it!”

If this is the bridge I’m thinking of, it got put out of action months ago and the Russians have been using barges to cross the river. The Ukrainians have been regularly blowing up the barges with HIMARS attacks.

party_pants said:

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You’d jump that in a Triton with a long enough runup.

You would think the noise of it breaking might have woken them up. That reads as if it was “oh! look! Someone broke the bridge during the night and we slept right through it!”

If this is the bridge I’m thinking of, it got put out of action months ago and the Russians have been using barges to cross the river. The Ukrainians have been regularly blowing up the barges with HIMARS attacks.

You might be thinking of one of the bridges of Madison county?

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You’d jump that in a Triton with a long enough runup.

You would think the noise of it breaking might have woken them up. That reads as if it was “oh! look! Someone broke the bridge during the night and we slept right through it!”

He’s lived in a war zone for 8 months, there are explosions and shit going on all the time.
This is a screengrab from a video where the reporter was giving his piece and the old codger rocked up on his bicycle and was disappointed he was unable to get to the shops.

Peak Warming Man said:

party_pants said:

buffy said:

You would think the noise of it breaking might have woken them up. That reads as if it was “oh! look! Someone broke the bridge during the night and we slept right through it!”

If this is the bridge I’m thinking of, it got put out of action months ago and the Russians have been using barges to cross the river. The Ukrainians have been regularly blowing up the barges with HIMARS attacks.

You might be thinking of one of the bridges of Madison county?

I’m thinking of the Antonivsky bridge (unsure of the spelling).

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You’d jump that in a Triton with a long enough runup.

You would think the noise of it breaking might have woken them up. That reads as if it was “oh! look! Someone broke the bridge during the night and we slept right through it!”

Here’s the video.
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1591005503609454592

Peak Warming Man said:

You’d jump that in a Triton with a long enough runup.

https://youtu.be/y92NgQxg8BQ?t=107

After multiple delays, the launch of NASA’s Artemis I rocket is looming on the horizon. But, if the rocket does see another delay, it could put the booster at great risk of running out of time. That’s because the expiration dates on certain components of the Artemis I boosters are coming up in December.

wookiemeister said:

After multiple delays, the launch of NASA’s Artemis I rocket is looming on the horizon. But, if the rocket does see another delay, it could put the booster at great risk of running out of time. That’s because the expiration dates on certain components of the Artemis I boosters are coming up in December.

So nothing of interest happened in Ukraine?

Dark Orange said:

wookiemeister said:

After multiple delays, the launch of NASA’s Artemis I rocket is looming on the horizon. But, if the rocket does see another delay, it could put the booster at great risk of running out of time. That’s because the expiration dates on certain components of the Artemis I boosters are coming up in December.

So nothing of interest happened in Ukraine?

Retreat in kherson and an advance and capture of some other town elsewhere. Its the shuffling of the chess pieces. More rumours of a NATO invasion from the west 14,000 US troops in ukraine.

If NATO decides to do a first strike you’ll know fairly quickly.

https://youtu.be/3WAWeSc8Gls
Lancet strike on artillery piece

wookiemeister said:

Dark Orange said:

wookiemeister said:

After multiple delays, the launch of NASA’s Artemis I rocket is looming on the horizon. But, if the rocket does see another delay, it could put the booster at great risk of running out of time. That’s because the expiration dates on certain components of the Artemis I boosters are coming up in December.

So nothing of interest happened in Ukraine?

Retreat in kherson and an advance and capture of some other town elsewhere. Its the shuffling of the chess pieces. More rumours of a NATO invasion from the west 14,000 US troops in ukraine.

If NATO decides to do a first strike you’ll know fairly quickly.

Look, Russia don’t need any help to shoot themselves in the foot…

Ukrainians in Kherson seem to be happy.

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1591386593201459207

MI6 run bomb attack in Istanbul

They don’t like the idea of the turkstream gas pipe still being operational. Nominally its being said its a “kurdish” terror group responsible.

wookiemeister said:

MI6 run bomb attack in Istanbul

They don’t like the idea of the turkstream gas pipe still being operational. Nominally its being said its a “kurdish” terror group responsible.

You’ve gone quiet on the Ukraine subject, so I suspect that you too know the Ukes have been skilfully drawn into an intricate trap that is about to be sprung?

wookiemeister said:

MI6 run bomb attack in Istanbul

They don’t like the idea of the turkstream gas pipe still being operational. Nominally its being said its a “kurdish” terror group responsible.

Let me try to understand:

‘they’ don’t like the gas pipeline continuing to operate.

So ‘they’ instigate the setting off of a bomb to interfere with that.

But the bomb is set of in Istanbul, nearly 100 km away from where the pipeline runs, over on the other side of the Bosporus strait (technically, on a different continent).

Wow, you have to admire the genius of that.