Date: 14/10/2010 21:33:10
From: Yeehah
ID: 107474
Subject: Taking cuttings

I don’t feel like hunting through books or websites atm, so will ask here.

Is there a general rule of them about what kinds of cuttings strike better at certain times of the year?

As I was walking, admiring plants and gardens, I realised that a lot of the lovely things in flower I will have to wait to strike. When it comes to pruning I’m pretty sure that the idea is to wait till flowering is over. Is it the same for flowering?

And if I have a rampant climbing rose that’s getting away and needs hacking back, is it worth whacking a pruning or two in a pot?

what about a deciduous, possibly ornamental (can’t see any fruit yet, has barely finished flowering) plum or similar?

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Date: 14/10/2010 22:36:26
From: The Estate
ID: 107491
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

yes/ yes and YES ?

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Date: 15/10/2010 02:23:26
From: pain master
ID: 107509
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

Yeehah said:

Is there a general rule of them about what kinds of cuttings strike better at certain times of the year?

experience says to me that one should take a cutting in respect of what I anticipate the next move is for the plant. If I believe the plant to be dormant and soon, buds will form and swell and new growth will appear then I would tend towards a woodier cutting. If I felt that the plant was actively growing and putting on extra layers and trying to get up into the sun then I would try newer growth.

There are always exceptions to every rule however.

My favourite cutting for propagation is the heel cutting, its kinda like taking an each way bet.

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Date: 15/10/2010 08:10:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 107523
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

pain master said:


Yeehah said:

Is there a general rule of them about what kinds of cuttings strike better at certain times of the year?

experience says to me that one should take a cutting in respect of what I anticipate the next move is for the plant. If I believe the plant to be dormant and soon, buds will form and swell and new growth will appear then I would tend towards a woodier cutting. If I felt that the plant was actively growing and putting on extra layers and trying to get up into the sun then I would try newer growth.

There are always exceptions to every rule however.

My favourite cutting for propagation is the heel cutting, its kinda like taking an each way bet.

I tend to use a modified version of heel cuttings and turn a whole branch into tip cuttings (of growing evergreens) As for Roses.. Success rates fall off in green tip cuttings by comparison to hardwood cuttings taken in winter. Natives absolutely love growing from green tip cuttings but Roses would prefer not to be in Australia if only they could get out of the place.

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Date: 15/10/2010 08:12:52
From: Thee
ID: 107526
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

Roses would prefer not to be in Australia if only they could get out of the place.

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Oi they love Thee’s Estate !!!

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Date: 15/10/2010 08:20:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 107531
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

Thee said:


Roses would prefer not to be in Australia if only they could get out of the place.

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Oi they love Thee’s Estate !!!

:) so do the aphids the scale the black spot or rather, everything that roses are attacked by too.

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Date: 15/10/2010 08:58:56
From: Thee
ID: 107535
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

roughbarked said:


Thee said:

Roses would prefer not to be in Australia if only they could get out of the place.

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Oi they love Thee’s Estate !!!

:) so do the aphids the scale the black spot or rather, everything that roses are attacked by too.

Ummm well it is part and parcel of Mother Nature lol, keeps me outa mischief :)

The perfume is out of this world ATM , Lorraine Lee and Wissy Ahhhh heaven

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Date: 15/10/2010 09:15:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 107537
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

:)

I was simply saying that roses do prefer to be treated like they are roses .. ie: from another climate. Green tip cuttings may work in parts of Australia(or in an artificial environment) but in general take hardwood cuttings from mature wood and plant in winter.
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Date: 15/10/2010 09:22:08
From: Thee
ID: 107538
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

I dont bother with cuttings, and too lazy / lack of spare time to graft also sighs when I retire I have so many things I want to do !

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Date: 15/10/2010 09:39:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 107541
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

Thee said:


I dont bother with cuttings, and too lazy / lack of spare time to graft also sighs when I retire I have so many things I want to do !

:)

I’m semi retired due to lack of work. If you are going to graft.. the main purpose would be to graft onto briar rootstock or onto a standard .. which means that if planting cuttings, they would be of briar rootstock. ;) or indeed onto a dwarfing rootstock. Otherwise it would be of things like minature roses.

One other purpose of grafting would be to have multicolour rosebushes

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Date: 15/10/2010 09:48:50
From: Thee
ID: 107544
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

roughbarked said:


Thee said:

I dont bother with cuttings, and too lazy / lack of spare time to graft also sighs when I retire I have so many things I want to do !

:)

I’m semi retired due to lack of work. If you are going to graft.. the main purpose would be to graft onto briar rootstock or onto a standard .. which means that if planting cuttings, they would be of briar rootstock. ;) or indeed onto a dwarfing rootstock. Otherwise it would be of things like minature roses.

One other purpose of grafting would be to have multicolour rosebushes

I already have an endless supply of graft stock growing in the form of a standard rose lol, it reverted back to root stock lol, and I have been to two rose grafting days at the Springvale Crematorium :)

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Date: 15/10/2010 09:50:05
From: pepe
ID: 107546
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

Thee said:


roughbarked said:

Thee said:

Roses would prefer not to be in Australia if only they could get out of the place.

………………………………

Oi they love Thee’s Estate !!!

:) so do the aphids the scale the black spot or rather, everything that roses are attacked by too.

Ummm well it is part and parcel of Mother Nature lol, keeps me outa mischief :)

The perfume is out of this world ATM , Lorraine Lee and Wissy Ahhhh heaven

knock out ! – absolutely stunning thee.

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Date: 15/10/2010 09:58:53
From: Thee
ID: 107550
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

thanks Pepe :)

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Date: 15/10/2010 10:19:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 107558
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

Thee said:


roughbarked said:

Thee said:

I dont bother with cuttings, and too lazy / lack of spare time to graft also sighs when I retire I have so many things I want to do !

:)

I’m semi retired due to lack of work. If you are going to graft.. the main purpose would be to graft onto briar rootstock or onto a standard .. which means that if planting cuttings, they would be of briar rootstock. ;) or indeed onto a dwarfing rootstock. Otherwise it would be of things like minature roses.

One other purpose of grafting would be to have multicolour rosebushes

I already have an endless supply of graft stock growing in the form of a standard rose lol, it reverted back to root stock lol, and I have been to two rose grafting days at the Springvale Crematorium :)

The missus of one of my ex-bosses showed me her rose pruning..! .. I said hmm.. you have cut the grafted part off your standards.. and promptly budded the one she hadn’t pruned.. back onto the two that she had.. told her the story.. and she didn’t have to go buy new roses.

If you have a heap of shoots on the rootstock of a similarly deceased graft on a standard.. then you may choose to bud several of them to different roses and make cuttings of some of the others to use as grafted replacements .. or for future planned beds.

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Date: 15/10/2010 10:22:04
From: Thee
ID: 107559
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

If you have a heap of shoots on the rootstock of a similarly deceased graft on a standard.. then you may choose to bud several of them to different roses and make cuttings of some of the others to use as grafted replacements .. or for future planned beds

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not planning anymore, unless of course I move to a new vacant block lol. as the odd one is shovel pruned for lack of performance they are not being replaced lol

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Date: 15/10/2010 13:55:14
From: bon008
ID: 107586
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

Thee said:

Oh wow. I should print this photo out and show it to my wisterias.. :D

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Date: 15/10/2010 19:39:12
From: pain master
ID: 107672
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

love Lorraine Lee, thanks Thee :)

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Date: 16/10/2010 13:25:05
From: AnneS
ID: 107833
Subject: re: Taking cuttings

bon008 said:


Thee said:

Oh wow. I should print this photo out and show it to my wisterias.. :D

me too!!!

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