Date: 15/10/2010 09:42:53
From: pepe
ID: 107542
Subject: houses

it’s frigid outside but it’s a pity i can’t write this in the outdoors because my brian operates differently, and probably more interestingly, outside.

yeehah, pomolo and i were discussing the other half of house and garden. (in PM’s thread). in particular the cost of house mortgage and house it can be minimised.
houses were always much smaller than they are today.
at least for the common bod – the aristocracy were building big halls but these were often used as kitchen cooking fire, dining room and then as bedroom where everyone (the swordsmen hired by the lord) slept at night.
for most of history the single room housed the family. ….. and probably if your wanted to minimise mortgage – small is beautiful. as we age and find cleaning more difficult small is also functional.

the massive 10 roomed mansion of the mortgage belt today is the aberration of history – and almost certainly on the wane.

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Date: 15/10/2010 11:18:39
From: Dinetta
ID: 107562
Subject: re: houses

pepe said:

the massive 10 roomed mansion of the mortgage belt today is the aberration of history – and almost certainly on the wane.

Hooray for that, and they’re called McMansions…take up the whole allotment, just about, and the size doesn’t really serve a purpose…I can relate to ensuites for the parents’ bedroom but after that the theatre rooms and the like …are they really necessary?

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Date: 15/10/2010 11:52:57
From: pepe
ID: 107566
Subject: re: houses

Dinetta said:


pepe said:

the massive 10 roomed mansion of the mortgage belt today is the aberration of history – and almost certainly on the wane.

Hooray for that, and they’re called McMansions…take up the whole allotment, just about, and the size doesn’t really serve a purpose…I can relate to ensuites for the parents’ bedroom but after that the theatre rooms and the like …are they really necessary?

one living dining room – big, high ceilinged, big fireplace, sunshine and light, outdoor living space adjacent – is fine. the trouble with the five living room theory is that all five are inferior – low ceilinged, small, poorly lit and unheated.
same with the five bedroom joints -all the rooms are undersized. better to have two good sized ones.
two toilet/bathrooms is ample.

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Date: 15/10/2010 11:53:30
From: bubba louie
ID: 107567
Subject: re: houses

Dinetta said:


pepe said:

the massive 10 roomed mansion of the mortgage belt today is the aberration of history – and almost certainly on the wane.

Hooray for that, and they’re called McMansions…take up the whole allotment, just about, and the size doesn’t really serve a purpose…I can relate to ensuites for the parents’ bedroom but after that the theatre rooms and the like …are they really necessary?

I especially hate McMansions that sit on acres of manicured lawns. :(

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Date: 15/10/2010 12:42:59
From: Dinetta
ID: 107572
Subject: re: houses

pepe said:

one living dining room – big, high ceilinged, big fireplace, sunshine and light, outdoor living space adjacent – is fine. the trouble with the five living room theory is that all five are inferior – low ceilinged, small, poorly lit and unheated.
same with the five bedroom joints -all the rooms are undersized. better to have two good sized ones.
two toilet/bathrooms is ample.

That puts me in mind of a local house…it’s drop dead good looking from the outside…but the bedrooms are pokey…

Not a good look, having 2 good – sized bedrooms here, with 5 children …they don’t live at home now but the age difference (8 years between 1 and 5) meant the academic requirements and adolescent stages necessitated separate bedrooms for those kinder, at least…and they had to share between 3 bedrooms as 1 fourth was ours…

Up here, and I’m sure this goes for a lot of Australian, the outdoors can be another living area…all set up with BBQ and table and chairs…sometimes a bar (under roof)…

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Date: 15/10/2010 12:56:42
From: pepe
ID: 107574
Subject: re: houses

5 children make a difference. go the 4 bedrooms. but now they have left ?

a lot of people (young and old) live on their own. i would like to see this situation better catered for. a spacious one bedroomed house with garden and single car garage, near to shops and transport is the hardest to find. the r.e. agents argue that such a property has low resale – but i wonder ?

if you look at the big macmansion you often find it has no shed. very weird really – the most common house that meets no one needs. often these macmansions are occupied by two wealthy full time workers and only the garage and main bedroom are ever used.

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Date: 15/10/2010 12:59:19
From: bubba louie
ID: 107575
Subject: re: houses

Dinetta said:


pepe said:

one living dining room – big, high ceilinged, big fireplace, sunshine and light, outdoor living space adjacent – is fine. the trouble with the five living room theory is that all five are inferior – low ceilinged, small, poorly lit and unheated.
same with the five bedroom joints -all the rooms are undersized. better to have two good sized ones.
two toilet/bathrooms is ample.

That puts me in mind of a local house…it’s drop dead good looking from the outside…but the bedrooms are pokey…

Not a good look, having 2 good – sized bedrooms here, with 5 children …they don’t live at home now but the age difference (8 years between 1 and 5) meant the academic requirements and adolescent stages necessitated separate bedrooms for those kinder, at least…and they had to share between 3 bedrooms as 1 fourth was ours…

Up here, and I’m sure this goes for a lot of Australian, the outdoors can be another living area…all set up with BBQ and table and chairs…sometimes a bar (under roof)…

Our last house was a tiny workmans cottage. Three bedrooms but sooo small. I totally loved it but we just outgrew it.
I wish we still owned it now.

When this place is finished it’ll have three bedrooms, two bathrooms, kitchen, dinning and lounge upstairs. Plus downstairs another two bedrooms(or one plus a computer room), family room, laundry and bathroom.

Eeeeeeeek.

All that so we can sell it for as much as possible, but I’ll never keep it all clean.

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Date: 15/10/2010 13:02:43
From: bubba louie
ID: 107576
Subject: re: houses

bubba louie said:


Dinetta said:

pepe said:

one living dining room – big, high ceilinged, big fireplace, sunshine and light, outdoor living space adjacent – is fine. the trouble with the five living room theory is that all five are inferior – low ceilinged, small, poorly lit and unheated.
same with the five bedroom joints -all the rooms are undersized. better to have two good sized ones.
two toilet/bathrooms is ample.

That puts me in mind of a local house…it’s drop dead good looking from the outside…but the bedrooms are pokey…

Not a good look, having 2 good – sized bedrooms here, with 5 children …they don’t live at home now but the age difference (8 years between 1 and 5) meant the academic requirements and adolescent stages necessitated separate bedrooms for those kinder, at least…and they had to share between 3 bedrooms as 1 fourth was ours…

Up here, and I’m sure this goes for a lot of Australian, the outdoors can be another living area…all set up with BBQ and table and chairs…sometimes a bar (under roof)…

Our last house was a tiny workmans cottage. Three bedrooms but sooo small. I totally loved it but we just outgrew it.
I wish we still owned it now.

When this place is finished it’ll have three bedrooms, two bathrooms, kitchen, dinning and lounge upstairs. Plus downstairs another two bedrooms(or one plus a computer room), family room, laundry and bathroom.

Eeeeeeeek.

All that so we can sell it for as much as possible, but I’ll never keep it all clean.

All done tastfully, of course, and in keeping with the period. No modern extentions happening here. lol

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Date: 15/10/2010 13:13:17
From: bubba louie
ID: 107577
Subject: re: houses

Before and after of our cottage.


McIntyre St (before)
McIntyre St (after)

And this place.

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Date: 15/10/2010 13:18:31
From: Thee
ID: 107578
Subject: re: houses

OMG I live and play in my garage every weekend , could never not have one lol

My living areas in the Summer Time YaY\









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Date: 15/10/2010 13:19:47
From: Thee
ID: 107579
Subject: re: houses

bubba louie said:


Before and after of our cottage.


McIntyre St (before)
McIntyre St (after)

And this place.

Photobucket


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love your house Bubba

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Date: 15/10/2010 13:58:55
From: bon008
ID: 107590
Subject: re: houses

pepe said:


Dinetta said:

pepe said:

the massive 10 roomed mansion of the mortgage belt today is the aberration of history – and almost certainly on the wane.

Hooray for that, and they’re called McMansions…take up the whole allotment, just about, and the size doesn’t really serve a purpose…I can relate to ensuites for the parents’ bedroom but after that the theatre rooms and the like …are they really necessary?

one living dining room – big, high ceilinged, big fireplace, sunshine and light, outdoor living space adjacent – is fine. the trouble with the five living room theory is that all five are inferior – low ceilinged, small, poorly lit and unheated.
same with the five bedroom joints -all the rooms are undersized. better to have two good sized ones.
two toilet/bathrooms is ample.

Oh, how I dream of having two toilets… :D

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Date: 15/10/2010 14:06:23
From: Thee
ID: 107593
Subject: re: houses

I got 3 dunnies lol,

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Date: 15/10/2010 14:11:19
From: Yeehah
ID: 107595
Subject: re: houses

bon008 said:

Oh, how I dream of having two toilets… :D

I’m renting a 2-bedroom house but it’s an older place (very badly designed but pressed metal ceilings and lovely detail in the woodwork, so good for the soul) and it has a “back” toilet.

I’m there all the time, Littlefella is there every second week. So when there’s just me I can choose :)

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Date: 15/10/2010 14:11:57
From: Yeehah
ID: 107596
Subject: re: houses

Thee said:


I got 3 dunnies lol,

Then I get to thinking about the cleaning …

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Date: 15/10/2010 14:16:16
From: Thee
ID: 107597
Subject: re: houses

Yeehah said:


Thee said:

I got 3 dunnies lol,

Then I get to thinking about the cleaning …

lol, 2 inside, ensuite and rear bathroom and one out the back in the extension , which is my sons responsibility

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Date: 15/10/2010 14:20:19
From: bon008
ID: 107598
Subject: re: houses

We were fine with one.. until the epic gastro attack struck. Definitely want two. Three I think would be too much cleaning.

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Date: 15/10/2010 14:27:32
From: Thee
ID: 107599
Subject: re: houses

the one down the back gets very little use, for guests Bon and I dont have those lol, I use the ensuite for me and son has his in his pad out the back and OI dont clean his !!

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Date: 15/10/2010 15:24:09
From: pepe
ID: 107604
Subject: re: houses

Thee said:


OMG I live and play in my garage every weekend , could never not have one lol

My living areas in the Summer Time YaY\










yep – that’s the place to be for six months of the year…..and the reason you don’t need more than one living space.

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Date: 15/10/2010 15:26:05
From: pepe
ID: 107605
Subject: re: houses

bubba louie said:


Before and after of our cottage.


McIntyre St (before)
McIntyre St (after)

And this place.

Photobucket


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those queenslanders up on stilts are terrific.
holiday homes in s.a. are sometimes on stilts to put the boat and caravan beneath.
in fact we should probably all live in holiday homes and ditch our suburban ones.

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Date: 15/10/2010 15:26:45
From: pepe
ID: 107606
Subject: re: houses

Thee said:


the one down the back gets very little use, for guests Bon and I dont have those lol, I use the ensuite for me and son has his in his pad out the back and OI dont clean his !!

a mobile one under the lemon tree LOL.

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Date: 15/10/2010 15:28:34
From: Thee
ID: 107608
Subject: re: houses

pepe said:


Thee said:

the one down the back gets very little use, for guests Bon and I dont have those lol, I use the ensuite for me and son has his in his pad out the back and OI dont clean his !!

a mobile one under the lemon tree LOL.

oh forgot about that one lol

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Date: 15/10/2010 16:19:06
From: bubba louie
ID: 107615
Subject: re: houses

pepe said:


bubba louie said:

Before and after of our cottage.


McIntyre St (before)
McIntyre St (after)

And this place.

Photobucket


Photobucket

those queenslanders up on stilts are terrific.
holiday homes in s.a. are sometimes on stilts to put the boat and caravan beneath.
in fact we should probably all live in holiday homes and ditch our suburban ones.

Not many stay on stilts these days. They get built in underneath, which is quite Ok if it’s done sympathetically. Unfortunately many just brick them in which is totally wrong for a wooden QLDer.

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Date: 15/10/2010 16:23:32
From: Dinetta
ID: 107619
Subject: re: houses

pepe said:

we should probably all live in holiday homes and ditch our suburban ones.

All those in favour, say “aye”!

Yes I don’t know why we’re not building them on stumps any more…it makes a lovely cool area under the house…in fact we’d live there (at my mother’s house) except the fridge and toilet are upstairs…we’ve got timber battens for privacy along the street side of the house, and along where the workshop was, but apart from concreting under there’s no improvements and it’s a beaut during the summer… plus it’s on the hill and gets all the breezes…let’s not worry about the railway line in front of it LOL!

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Date: 15/10/2010 16:35:30
From: bubba louie
ID: 107627
Subject: re: houses

This is Kedron Lodge. Original residence of Judge Lutwyche and now home to the Hawkins family, owners of Hawkins nurseries.

It’s a short walk from us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kedron_Lodge_Queensland.gjm.JPG

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Date: 15/10/2010 16:36:45
From: bubba louie
ID: 107628
Subject: re: houses

bubba louie said:


This is Kedron Lodge. Original residence of Judge Lutwyche and now home to the Hawkins family, owners of Hawkins nurseries.

It’s a short walk from us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kedron_Lodge_Queensland.gjm.JPG

As it was.

http://www.sclqld.org.au/schp/exhibitions/athome/Kedron_About.html

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Date: 15/10/2010 16:58:36
From: Yeehah
ID: 107629
Subject: re: houses

Dinetta said:

All those in favour, say “aye”!

Yes I don’t know why we’re not building them on stumps any more…it makes a lovely cool area under the house…

Oh youse Qbillies!

When Mr Y and I were researching, prior to building our kit home, we discovered that the BASIX system thingy for our postcode immediately gave us -32 points for building a house on stumps, but +40 for having a concrete slab. Heading for a total of 50 points, or something silly like that, can’t remember the details any more.

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Date: 15/10/2010 19:52:13
From: pain master
ID: 107680
Subject: re: houses

pepe said:


the massive 10 roomed mansion of the mortgage belt today is the aberration of history – and almost certainly on the wane.

not up here. McMansions are only what will be built, today, tomorrow and in the future. Townsvillians feel assured by no longer investing in a Queenslander which may blow away in the next Althea, they want concrete and brick. Gotta keep that 200inch plasma safely bolted to the wall…

Hang on, I’ll be back, just gotta move the Missus Commodore Ute, so the young fella can get his Hilux out from behind my Prado. The daughter probably wants to shift her Lancer later too… Hope her boyfriend don’t show up again with that doof doof XR6, bloody Ford piece of shite, where were they last week on Panorama?

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Date: 15/10/2010 19:59:04
From: The Estate
ID: 107685
Subject: re: houses

pain master said:


pepe said:

the massive 10 roomed mansion of the mortgage belt today is the aberration of history – and almost certainly on the wane.

not up here. McMansions are only what will be built, today, tomorrow and in the future. Townsvillians feel assured by no longer investing in a Queenslander which may blow away in the next Althea, they want concrete and brick. Gotta keep that 200inch plasma safely bolted to the wall…

Hang on, I’ll be back, just gotta move the Missus Commodore Ute, so the young fella can get his Hilux out from behind my Prado. The daughter probably wants to shift her Lancer later too… Hope her boyfriend don’t show up again with that doof doof XR6, bloody Ford piece of shite, where were they last week on Panorama?

well said PM, exactly my thoughts lol

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Date: 15/10/2010 20:00:08
From: Dinetta
ID: 107687
Subject: re: houses

pain master said:

not up here. McMansions are only what will be built, today, tomorrow and in the future. Townsvillians feel assured by no longer investing in a Queenslander which may blow away in the next Althea, they want concrete and brick. Gotta keep that 200inch plasma safely bolted to the wall…

Can’t the high set houses be built to cyclone standards? They’re built to some standard out here…not cyclonic but in excess of what could reasonably be expected to occur…worst case scenario without the cyclone…but people go the remove the reinforcements because “they’re in the way”…

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Date: 15/10/2010 20:15:03
From: pain master
ID: 107699
Subject: re: houses

Dinetta said:


pain master said:

not up here. McMansions are only what will be built, today, tomorrow and in the future. Townsvillians feel assured by no longer investing in a Queenslander which may blow away in the next Althea, they want concrete and brick. Gotta keep that 200inch plasma safely bolted to the wall…

Can’t the high set houses be built to cyclone standards? They’re built to some standard out here…not cyclonic but in excess of what could reasonably be expected to occur…worst case scenario without the cyclone…but people go the remove the reinforcements because “they’re in the way”…

yeah in Darwin, they are all Cat 3 rated with brick cores and hi-set surrounds, so they function well with the weather. Here in Townsville though we have too many mexican AJ’s who swear by the Aircon and want brick brick brick, the browner the better. Its camouflaged!

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Date: 15/10/2010 21:21:11
From: Happy Potter
ID: 107716
Subject: re: houses

The only thing I miss about Qld, those lovely old Queenslander homes.

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Date: 15/10/2010 21:27:48
From: bubba louie
ID: 107718
Subject: re: houses

Happy Potter said:


The only thing I miss about Qld, those lovely old Queenslander homes.

They look great but are monsters to look after. Our retirement house will be low low maintenance.

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Date: 15/10/2010 21:31:15
From: bluegreen
ID: 107721
Subject: re: houses

my parent’s first living quarters was a renovated chicken shed in my mum’s parent’s backyard (a bit like a granny flat.) When they had their first house built 3 kids later it was approved to be built in 2 stages. First stage was a one bedroom (they called the dining room a second bedroom to get through council) and my 2 sisters slept on the verandah which was enclosed while I, being the baby, got to have my cot in mum & dad’s room. Second stage was the addition of 2 more bedrooms. I never felt that there was not enough room. It was built on a 1 acre block and a lot of playing was done outside. the verandah was the equivalent of the modern family room. the shared bedroom was big enough that the wardrobes and dressers were placed back to back in the centre allowing for a certain amount of privacy. I think that the model of a 2 stage house would possibly help a lot of young people starting out, allowing the house to grow as the family grew without having the hassle of going through council approvals etc. again.

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Date: 15/10/2010 22:59:22
From: Dinetta
ID: 107749
Subject: re: houses

pain master said:


Dinetta said:

pain master said:

not up here. McMansions are only what will be built, today, tomorrow and in the future. Townsvillians feel assured by no longer investing in a Queenslander which may blow away in the next Althea, they want concrete and brick. Gotta keep that 200inch plasma safely bolted to the wall…

Can’t the high set houses be built to cyclone standards? They’re built to some standard out here…not cyclonic but in excess of what could reasonably be expected to occur…worst case scenario without the cyclone…but people go the remove the reinforcements because “they’re in the way”…

yeah in Darwin, they are all Cat 3 rated with brick cores and hi-set surrounds, so they function well with the weather. Here in Townsville though we have too many mexican AJ’s who swear by the Aircon and want brick brick brick, the browner the better. Its camouflaged!

Shame

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Date: 16/10/2010 08:01:55
From: pain master
ID: 107768
Subject: re: houses

Dinetta said:


pain master said:

Dinetta said:

Can’t the high set houses be built to cyclone standards? They’re built to some standard out here…not cyclonic but in excess of what could reasonably be expected to occur…worst case scenario without the cyclone…but people go the remove the reinforcements because “they’re in the way”…

yeah in Darwin, they are all Cat 3 rated with brick cores and hi-set surrounds, so they function well with the weather. Here in Townsville though we have too many mexican AJ’s who swear by the Aircon and want brick brick brick, the browner the better. Its camouflaged!

Shame

we have one new suburb, or as I like to look at it, a human feed-lot where the eaves o’erlap and the shades of brown are repeated; one has dark brown tiles with light brown render and vice-versa along the line. But despite it being a concrete jungle where this mornings deliciously bracing breeze could not possibly penetrate to cool the soul, they are environmentally friends homes with every roof possessing the same solar paneling.

I’m pretty sure each solar panel produces just enough power to fire up a 200inch plasma. The rest of the power will soon to be sourced from the new PNG/QLD hydroscheme way up in the Southern Highlands of Papua. In the meantime we will just have to keep digging away at the Peaks Down Coal Mine.

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Date: 16/10/2010 09:09:55
From: Yeehah
ID: 107776
Subject: re: houses

pain master said:


we have one new suburb, or as I like to look at it, a human feed-lot where the eaves o’erlap and the shades of brown are repeated; one has dark brown tiles with light brown render and vice-versa along the line. But despite it being a concrete jungle where this mornings deliciously bracing breeze could not possibly penetrate to cool the soul, they are environmentally friends homes with every roof possessing the same solar paneling.

I’m pretty sure each solar panel produces just enough power to fire up a 200inch plasma. The rest of the power will soon to be sourced from the new PNG/QLD hydroscheme way up in the Southern Highlands of Papua. In the meantime we will just have to keep digging away at the Peaks Down Coal Mine.


Oh, you cynic, you.

I agree with your sentiments entirely!

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Date: 16/10/2010 09:53:26
From: pain master
ID: 107785
Subject: re: houses

Yeehah said:


pain master said:

we have one new suburb, or as I like to look at it, a human feed-lot where the eaves o’erlap and the shades of brown are repeated; one has dark brown tiles with light brown render and vice-versa along the line. But despite it being a concrete jungle where this mornings deliciously bracing breeze could not possibly penetrate to cool the soul, they are environmentally friends homes with every roof possessing the same solar paneling.

I’m pretty sure each solar panel produces just enough power to fire up a 200inch plasma. The rest of the power will soon to be sourced from the new PNG/QLD hydroscheme way up in the Southern Highlands of Papua. In the meantime we will just have to keep digging away at the Peaks Down Coal Mine.


Oh, you cynic, you.

I agree with your sentiments entirely!

lego-land housing just doesn’t sit comfortably with me. currently.

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Date: 16/10/2010 09:55:46
From: Thee
ID: 107786
Subject: re: houses

lego-land housing just doesn’t sit comfortably with me. currently.

……………

even though I love being outside in the garden, this is not always possible and I do like a bit of space to swing my pussy cat. We diff if I was a going out type but I only go 2 place, work and the stoopidmarket and even thinking of shopping on line Grrrrm see told you I was a crabby bitch lmao

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Date: 16/10/2010 10:11:19
From: pain master
ID: 107797
Subject: re: houses

Thee said:


lego-land housing just doesn’t sit comfortably with me. currently.

……………

even though I love being outside in the garden, this is not always possible and I do like a bit of space to swing my pussy cat. We diff if I was a going out type but I only go 2 place, work and the stoopidmarket and even thinking of shopping on line Grrrrm see told you I was a crabby bitch lmao

certainly Thee, I can see why some people like it, and I know of people who live in multi-storied apartment buildings and love the lifestyle it offers them. I too, spent three years living in a three storey townhouse which was in a compound of many and being adaptable, I survived and enjoyed living there.

currently though, I really like the fact that there is over 50metres of space between me and my nearest neighbour.

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Date: 16/10/2010 10:15:30
From: Thee
ID: 107799
Subject: re: houses

pain master said:


Thee said:

lego-land housing just doesn’t sit comfortably with me. currently.

……………

even though I love being outside in the garden, this is not always possible and I do like a bit of space to swing my pussy cat. We diff if I was a going out type but I only go 2 place, work and the stoopidmarket and even thinking of shopping on line Grrrrm see told you I was a crabby bitch lmao

certainly Thee, I can see why some people like it, and I know of people who live in multi-storied apartment buildings and love the lifestyle it offers them. I too, spent three years living in a three storey townhouse which was in a compound of many and being adaptable, I survived and enjoyed living there.

currently though, I really like the fact that there is over 50metres of space between me and my nearest neighbour.

each to their own, I lived in flats until I could afford to rent a house and really missed my neighbours at first, it is a lifestyle choice :)

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Date: 16/10/2010 10:23:35
From: Happy Potter
ID: 107803
Subject: re: houses

My average 3 bedroom house on the quarter acre is becoming scarce around here too. My eldest girl lives in one of those high density estates, no eves at all and not more than double shoulder width side paths. Tiny backyard, room for one car only and the footpath is for a visitors car.
But it is a far cheaper house to run than mine. Her place has the solar panels and a good size lot too, and a 3000 lt tank built into an alcove to feed the laundry and a single loo. It is also easier to clean.

I recognised the little gum tree planted out the front as a red gum and one day when I was planting a few flowers and shrubs for her, I whipped it out. Too close to the house.

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Date: 16/10/2010 10:32:36
From: pain master
ID: 107806
Subject: re: houses

Happy Potter said:


My average 3 bedroom house on the quarter acre is becoming scarce around here too. My eldest girl lives in one of those high density estates, no eves at all and not more than double shoulder width side paths. Tiny backyard, room for one car only and the footpath is for a visitors car.
But it is a far cheaper house to run than mine. Her place has the solar panels and a good size lot too, and a 3000 lt tank built into an alcove to feed the laundry and a single loo. It is also easier to clean.

I recognised the little gum tree planted out the front as a red gum and one day when I was planting a few flowers and shrubs for her, I whipped it out. Too close to the house.

I guess the difference here is that we need the space for the Prado, the Ute, the kids car, and the Jetski, so our garages are the same size as our houses.

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Date: 16/10/2010 12:39:12
From: bubba louie
ID: 107825
Subject: re: houses

pain master said:


Thee said:

lego-land housing just doesn’t sit comfortably with me. currently.

……………

even though I love being outside in the garden, this is not always possible and I do like a bit of space to swing my pussy cat. We diff if I was a going out type but I only go 2 place, work and the stoopidmarket and even thinking of shopping on line Grrrrm see told you I was a crabby bitch lmao

certainly Thee, I can see why some people like it, and I know of people who live in multi-storied apartment buildings and love the lifestyle it offers them. I too, spent three years living in a three storey townhouse which was in a compound of many and being adaptable, I survived and enjoyed living there.

currently though, I really like the fact that there is over 50metres of space between me and my nearest neighbour.

I definately want a BIG block but ,if for some reason that wasn’t possible, then I’d go the exact opposite and buy a unit closer to the city. It’s suburbia that I’m sick of. It doesn’t have any of the benefits of the country or the inner city.

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Date: 16/10/2010 13:26:13
From: Dinetta
ID: 107834
Subject: re: houses

pain master said:

I guess the difference here is that we need the space for the Prado, the Ute, the kids car, and the Jetski, so our garages are the same size as our houses.

Prados are just a little car, I don’t know what the fuss is all about…(warning: thread hijack)

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Date: 16/10/2010 13:40:16
From: pain master
ID: 107842
Subject: re: houses

Dinetta said:


pain master said:

I guess the difference here is that we need the space for the Prado, the Ute, the kids car, and the Jetski, so our garages are the same size as our houses.

Prados are just a little car, I don’t know what the fuss is all about…(warning: thread hijack)

well derrr! The Troopy sits out on the road and is ready to go at the drop of a hat. The Prado is Mum’s car.

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Date: 16/10/2010 13:40:58
From: AnneS
ID: 107845
Subject: re: houses

pain master said:


Yeehah said:

pain master said:

we have one new suburb, or as I like to look at it, a human feed-lot where the eaves o’erlap and the shades of brown are repeated; one has dark brown tiles with light brown render and vice-versa along the line. But despite it being a concrete jungle where this mornings deliciously bracing breeze could not possibly penetrate to cool the soul, they are environmentally friends homes with every roof possessing the same solar paneling.

I’m pretty sure each solar panel produces just enough power to fire up a 200inch plasma. The rest of the power will soon to be sourced from the new PNG/QLD hydroscheme way up in the Southern Highlands of Papua. In the meantime we will just have to keep digging away at the Peaks Down Coal Mine.


Oh, you cynic, you.

I agree with your sentiments entirely!

lego-land housing just doesn’t sit comfortably with me. currently.

“Little boxes”….McMansion style.

Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes all the same,
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And the people in the houses
All went to the university
Where they were put in boxes
And they came out all the same
And there’s doctors and lawyers
And business executives
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And they all play on the golf course
And drink their martinis dry
And they all have pretty children
And the children go to school,
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university
Where they are put in boxes
And they come out all the same.

And the boys go into business
And marry and raise a family
In boxes made of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same,
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

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Date: 16/10/2010 13:43:56
From: AnneS
ID: 107846
Subject: re: houses

pain master said:


Happy Potter said:

My average 3 bedroom house on the quarter acre is becoming scarce around here too. My eldest girl lives in one of those high density estates, no eves at all and not more than double shoulder width side paths. Tiny backyard, room for one car only and the footpath is for a visitors car.
But it is a far cheaper house to run than mine. Her place has the solar panels and a good size lot too, and a 3000 lt tank built into an alcove to feed the laundry and a single loo. It is also easier to clean.

I recognised the little gum tree planted out the front as a red gum and one day when I was planting a few flowers and shrubs for her, I whipped it out. Too close to the house.

I guess the difference here is that we need the space for the Prado, the Ute, the kids car, and the Jetski, so our garages are the same size as our houses.

I just love my 5 acres, even if we are only renting :)

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Date: 16/10/2010 13:45:34
From: pain master
ID: 107847
Subject: re: houses

AnneS said:


pain master said:

Yeehah said:

Oh, you cynic, you.

I agree with your sentiments entirely!

lego-land housing just doesn’t sit comfortably with me. currently.

“Little boxes”….McMansion style.

Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes all the same,
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And the people in the houses
All went to the university
Where they were put in boxes
And they came out all the same
And there’s doctors and lawyers
And business executives
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And they all play on the golf course
And drink their martinis dry
And they all have pretty children
And the children go to school,
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university
Where they are put in boxes
And they come out all the same.

And the boys go into business
And marry and raise a family
In boxes made of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same,
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

be nice if there were green ones and pink ones…. we just get brown ones.

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Date: 16/10/2010 14:03:59
From: Happy Potter
ID: 107865
Subject: re: houses

AnneS said:


pain master said:

Yeehah said:

Oh, you cynic, you.

I agree with your sentiments entirely!

lego-land housing just doesn’t sit comfortably with me. currently.

“Little boxes”….McMansion style.

Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes all the same,
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And the people in the houses
All went to the university
Where they were put in boxes
And they came out all the same
And there’s doctors and lawyers
And business executives
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And they all play on the golf course
And drink their martinis dry
And they all have pretty children
And the children go to school,
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university
Where they are put in boxes
And they come out all the same.

And the boys go into business
And marry and raise a family
In boxes made of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same,
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

That is such a depressing view.

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Date: 16/10/2010 14:10:48
From: bluegreen
ID: 107872
Subject: re: houses

Happy Potter said:


AnneS said:

There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

That is such a depressing view.

that’s an old song too, so not much has changed.

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Date: 16/10/2010 14:13:10
From: bubba louie
ID: 107881
Subject: re: houses

Happy Potter said:


AnneS said:

pain master said:

lego-land housing just doesn’t sit comfortably with me. currently.

“Little boxes”….McMansion style.

Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes all the same,
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And the people in the houses
All went to the university
Where they were put in boxes
And they came out all the same
And there’s doctors and lawyers
And business executives
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And they all play on the golf course
And drink their martinis dry
And they all have pretty children
And the children go to school,
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university
Where they are put in boxes
And they come out all the same.

And the boys go into business
And marry and raise a family
In boxes made of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same,
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

That is such a depressing view.

Not really McMasion though. McMansions are huge ridiculously lavish monstrosities.

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Date: 16/10/2010 14:16:36
From: AnneS
ID: 107888
Subject: re: houses

bluegreen said:


Happy Potter said:

AnneS said:

There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

That is such a depressing view.

that’s an old song too, so not much has changed.

exactly…

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Date: 16/10/2010 15:47:15
From: Dinetta
ID: 107970
Subject: re: houses

pain master said:


Dinetta said:

pain master said:

I guess the difference here is that we need the space for the Prado, the Ute, the kids car, and the Jetski, so our garages are the same size as our houses.

Prados are just a little car, I don’t know what the fuss is all about…(warning: thread hijack)

well derrr! The Troopy sits out on the road and is ready to go at the drop of a hat. The Prado is Mum’s car.

ROTFLUTS!

Yes, they often are…but out here the “troopies” are Mum’s car…“Dad” usually has a well-worn ute that doubles as his boat hauler for fishing trips…their sons and daughters are usually given shiny new high-powered Fords or Holdens (this is the sticks after all)…and some even have them personalised with a custom spray-paint jobbie of the colour of choice…. my favourite was the car that was kind of purple but changed colour as it moved along, much like an opal…

The kids who have to buy their own stick to the dual cab utes (cheeep) or the little bubble cars…

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Date: 16/10/2010 15:50:00
From: pain master
ID: 107972
Subject: re: houses

Dinetta said:

my favourite was the car that was kind of purple but changed colour as it moved along, much like an opal…

Oh nooo, they are dreadful….

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Date: 16/10/2010 15:53:16
From: Dinetta
ID: 107975
Subject: re: houses

bubba louie said:


Happy Potter said:

AnneS said:

“Little boxes”….McMansion style.

Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes all the same,…”

That is such a depressing view.

Not really McMasion though. McMansions are huge ridiculously lavish monstrosities.

That’s so true (about McMansions)…

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Date: 16/10/2010 18:05:01
From: pepe
ID: 108028
Subject: re: houses

we have one new suburb, or as I like to look at it, a human feed-lot where the eaves o’erlap and the shades of brown are repeated; one has dark brown tiles with light brown render and vice-versa along the line. But despite it being a concrete jungle where this mornings deliciously bracing breeze could not possibly penetrate to cool the soul, they are environmentally friends homes with every roof possessing the same solar paneling.

I’m pretty sure each solar panel produces just enough power to fire up a 200inch plasma. The rest of the power will soon to be sourced from the new PNG/QLD hydroscheme way up in the Southern Highlands of Papua. In the meantime we will just have to keep digging away at the Peaks Down Coal Mine.
—————————————————
ROTFPIMP

did you know that about 10 years ago the minister for energy vowed that we would start to use less energy.
after 5 years the bureaucrat in charge of reporting how the energy savings were going said
“…we have lowered the rate of increase in energy usage”

we continue to use more energy annually.

the other little scheme – the carbon credits thingy – pays me 55 cents per kilowat hour for the power my PV cells generate. i pay 19 cents per hour for the power i buy. this happens all over the world in places like spain and germany as well. the trouble is those without PV cells will end up subsidising my power bills.

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Date: 16/10/2010 23:43:19
From: Yeehah
ID: 108101
Subject: re: houses

AnneS said:


“Little boxes”….McMansion style.

Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes all the same,
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And the people in the houses
All went to the university
Where they were put in boxes
And they came out all the same
And there’s doctors and lawyers
And business executives
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And they all play on the golf course
And drink their martinis dry
And they all have pretty children
And the children go to school,
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university
Where they are put in boxes
And they come out all the same.

And the boys go into business
And marry and raise a family
In boxes made of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same,
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

Back in the early 70s when country schools didn’t have music teachers, once a week we listened to the ABC Radio for their singing program. I remember having “Little Boxes” as one of the songs we had to sing, but had no idea what the underlying message was. I just liked the idea of houses being different pretty colours :)

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Date: 17/10/2010 14:32:27
From: bubba louie
ID: 108156
Subject: re: houses

Yeehah said:


AnneS said:

“Little boxes”….McMansion style.

Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes all the same,
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And the people in the houses
All went to the university
Where they were put in boxes
And they came out all the same
And there’s doctors and lawyers
And business executives
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And they all play on the golf course
And drink their martinis dry
And they all have pretty children
And the children go to school,
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university
Where they are put in boxes
And they come out all the same.

And the boys go into business
And marry and raise a family
In boxes made of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same,
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

Back in the early 70s when country schools didn’t have music teachers, once a week we listened to the ABC Radio for their singing program. I remember having “Little Boxes” as one of the songs we had to sing, but had no idea what the underlying message was. I just liked the idea of houses being different pretty colours :)

At least it’s a bit more interesting than “The Ash Grove”, which is what we sang.

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Date: 17/10/2010 14:39:04
From: pain master
ID: 108161
Subject: re: houses

bubba louie said:


Yeehah said:

AnneS said:

“Little boxes”….McMansion style.

Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes all the same,
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And the people in the houses
All went to the university
Where they were put in boxes
And they came out all the same
And there’s doctors and lawyers
And business executives
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And they all play on the golf course
And drink their martinis dry
And they all have pretty children
And the children go to school,
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university
Where they are put in boxes
And they come out all the same.

And the boys go into business
And marry and raise a family
In boxes made of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same,
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

Back in the early 70s when country schools didn’t have music teachers, once a week we listened to the ABC Radio for their singing program. I remember having “Little Boxes” as one of the songs we had to sing, but had no idea what the underlying message was. I just liked the idea of houses being different pretty colours :)

At least it’s a bit more interesting than “The Ash Grove”, which is what we sang.

In the Legion we would often sing ““Tiens, voilà du boudin” before lunch and often “Mein Name ist Annemarie” to finish off the meal…. aahhhhh Good times… good times.

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Date: 17/10/2010 15:20:02
From: Dinetta
ID: 108169
Subject: re: houses

pain master said:

In the Legion we would often sing ““Tiens, voilà du boudin” before lunch and often “Mein Name ist Annemarie” to finish off the meal…. aahhhhh Good times… good times.

French before the meal and Deutsch apres?

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Date: 17/10/2010 18:21:41
From: pain master
ID: 108177
Subject: re: houses

Dinetta said:


pain master said:

In the Legion we would often sing ““Tiens, voilà du boudin” before lunch and often “Mein Name ist Annemarie” to finish off the meal…. aahhhhh Good times… good times.

French before the meal and Deutsch apres?

pretty much a song for blessing what is to come followed up by a celebration of another meal. Never really knew when the next feed was coming…. and “My Name is Annemarie” ain’t a song to be sung at your Mum’s birthday party…

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Date: 17/10/2010 19:14:33
From: pepe
ID: 108188
Subject: re: houses

Down yonder green valley where streamlets meander,
When twilight is fading, i pensively rove,
Or at the bright noontide in solitude wander
Amid the dark shades of the lonely ash grove.

‘twas there while the blackbird was joyfully singing,
I first met my dear one, the joy of my heart;
Around us for gladness the bluebells were ringing,
Ah! then little thought i how soon we should part.
———-
i’ve spent 50 years wandering what that song was called – ash grove – .
the lyrics of the first line were different .

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Date: 17/10/2010 19:15:21
From: pepe
ID: 108189
Subject: re: houses

In the Legion we would often sing ”“Tiens, voilà du boudin” before lunch and often “Mein Name ist Annemarie” to finish off the meal…. aahhhhh Good times… good times.
———————————
hjhjhjhjhjhjhj

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Date: 17/10/2010 19:32:47
From: pain master
ID: 108193
Subject: re: houses

pepe said:


In the Legion we would often sing ”“Tiens, voilà du boudin” before lunch and often “Mein Name ist Annemarie” to finish off the meal…. aahhhhh Good times… good times.
———————————
hjhjhjhjhjhjhj

hj = hijack? Never!

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Date: 18/10/2010 08:02:11
From: Dinetta
ID: 108238
Subject: re: houses

pepe said:


Down yonder green valley where streamlets meander,
When twilight is fading, i pensively rove,
Or at the bright noontide in solitude wander
Amid the dark shades of the lonely ash grove.

‘twas there while the blackbird was joyfully singing,
I first met my dear one, the joy of my heart;
Around us for gladness the bluebells were ringing,
Ah! then little thought i how soon we should part.
———-
i’ve spent 50 years wandering what that song was called – ash grove – .
the lyrics of the first line were different .

I know the second verse off by heart…we used to sing it at school, for a concert or something…

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