COVID-19 case numbers are rising again in Australia

roughbarked said:

COVID-19 case numbers are rising again in Australia

That’s odd.

Just looked at Worldometer and I thought it looked pretty flat.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

COVID-19 case numbers are rising again in Australia

That’s odd.

Just looked at Worldometer and I thought it looked pretty flat.

interestingly enough if cases have been falling and then suddenly a chart of the average looks flat, then actually cases are rising

¡

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

COVID-19 case numbers are rising again in Australia

That’s odd.

Just looked at Worldometer and I thought it looked pretty flat.

I guess the active cases graph has ticked up a bit.

COVID-19 activates similar response to Parkinson’s disease, study suggests

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

COVID-19 case numbers are rising again in Australia

That’s odd.

Just looked at Worldometer and I thought it looked pretty flat.

I guess the active cases graph has ticked up a bit.

so we mean case numbers aren’t rising but the existing cases are taking longer to recover slash die

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

That’s odd.

Just looked at Worldometer and I thought it looked pretty flat.

I guess the active cases graph has ticked up a bit.

so we mean case numbers aren’t rising but the existing cases are taking longer to recover slash die

I suppose that makes sense.

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

That’s odd.

Just looked at Worldometer and I thought it looked pretty flat.

I guess the active cases graph has ticked up a bit.

so we mean case numbers aren’t rising but the existing cases are taking longer to recover slash die

From 5/9 to 28/10 iin my local city.

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

That’s odd.

Just looked at Worldometer and I thought it looked pretty flat.

I guess the active cases graph has ticked up a bit.

so we mean case numbers aren’t rising but the existing cases are taking longer to recover slash die

“….although it’s a really dodgy figure because we’re not testing in any way systemically.”

from that page, quoting the doctor I reckon

that would be a reference to the intentional undercapture for the purposes of normalizing wild covid, that all were induced into collaborative acceptance, I guess, all helps with the diminished responsibility

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

I guess the active cases graph has ticked up a bit.

so we mean case numbers aren’t rising but the existing cases are taking longer to recover slash die

“….although it’s a really dodgy figure because we’re not testing in any way systemically.”

from that page, quoting the doctor I reckon

that would be a reference to the intentional undercapture for the purposes of normalizing wild covid, that all were induced into collaborative acceptance, I guess, all helps with the diminished responsibility

here I was, the link got lost
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-01/live-news-blog-the-loop-instagram-nancy-pelosi-rba-rates/101600184#live-blog-post-10600

LOL

SCIENCE said:

LOL

the great maiming

reckons I got another dose at moment, be eight months of the bullshit soon, probably had it six times, two times was bad, sort of has you sleeping most the day, puts you in bed for days, can be quite crook for over a week, even weeks

at least after the last time I got it bad the muscle twitching i’ve had for a good six months of all that reduced, not much now

still get the flu legs, or covid legs, especially in the calf muscles, and exertion gets me an odd muscle fade, not like normal muscle energy fade which can be overcome with more force and discomfort, this is more like the energy and force disappears, like I was using the handsaw to go through large dead tree branches other day

and the chilled sensation has been a menace, very low tolerance of temperature, especially the cold

not too bad at the moment, getting the hybrid immunity, hopefully don’t get too much hybrid injury with it, not dead yet anyway, evidently

roughbarked said:

COVID-19 activates similar response to Parkinson’s disease, study suggests

who cares, you can just take some more drugs and it’s all good

https://www.theage.com.au/national/queensland/how-parkinson-s-drug-could-put-out-fire-in-the-brain-set-by-covid-19-20221031-p5buan.html

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

COVID-19 case numbers are rising again in Australia

That’s odd.

Just looked at Worldometer and I thought it looked pretty flat.

It is pretty flat, for Australia. Not for many other countries.

For many months, Australia was among the world’s worst 5 countries for deaths.
Thankfully, that’s no longer true. Finland is worst for Covid deaths at the moment.

There’s a huge spike in new cases in New Zealand, but that may be a data glitch.

mollwollfumble said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

COVID-19 case numbers are rising again in Australia

That’s odd.

Just looked at Worldometer and I thought it looked pretty flat.

It is pretty flat, for Australia. Not for many other countries.

/…cut by me master transition../

suspiciously flat a lot of those lines, especially India’s, perhaps they indicate a consistency of undercapture, measuring something else

Something was just outside the courts yelling about Covid conspiracies to no one in particular

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-02/john-gorman-rh-disease-treatment-millions-newborns-saved/101532694

To summarize the key points today, there was an important new preprint by Yunlong Cao’s group showing that the new variants with marked immune evasive properties are rapidiy picking up additional mutations. We’ve been worried about BQ.1.1 but now there’s BQ.1.1.10 which shows more evasion (than BQ.1.1) after 3 CoronaVac shots plus a BA.5 breakthrough infection (below). There’s also XBB.1, XBB.3 add ons (beyond XBB), along with BA.4.6.3, CH.1.1, that similarly take immune evasion to a higher level than what we’ve previously seen.

https://erictopol.substack.com/p/pandemic-update-31-october-2022

UQ study finds viruses hitchhike on microplastics.

Link

aha you know how Russia are winding back their little sortie, we guess that’s because they’ve achieved their objective

https://twitter.com/RadCentrism/status/1586742852461084672

SCIENCE said:

aha you know how Russia are winding back their little sortie, we guess that’s because they’ve achieved their objective

https://twitter.com/RadCentrism/status/1586742852461084672

Twitter is now out of bounds.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

aha you know how Russia are winding back their little sortie, we guess that’s because they’ve achieved their objective

https://twitter.com/RadCentrism/status/1586742852461084672

Twitter is now out of bounds.

don’t worry there are still plenty of leaps of faith

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

aha you know how Russia are winding back their little sortie, we guess that’s because they’ve achieved their objective

https://twitter.com/RadCentrism/status/1586742852461084672

Twitter is now out of bounds.

don’t worry there are still plenty of leaps of faith

Where angels fear to tread.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Twitter is now out of bounds.

don’t worry there are still plenty of leaps of faith

Where angels fear to tread.

but, fair play to roughbarked, neoMurdochTrump really does look to be fucking things up

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

don’t worry there are still plenty of leaps of faith

Where angels fear to tread.

but, fair play to roughbarked, neoMurdochTrump really does look to be fucking things up

Overnight, twitter now has a whole swag of new scripts and cookies. I doubt fair play is on the new agenda.

LOL

Laugh Out Loud Fuck

https://www.9news.com.au/national/australian-doctors-raise-concerns-about-antibiotic-medicine-shortage-exclusive/6c9922db-8ffd-4071-b9d3-7c239d2d2fd5

We Have The Tools

¡ fortunately there’s a fucking simple solution to this !

The father of a three-year-old boy who died from carbon monoxide poisoning in north-west China says strict COVID-19 policies “indirectly killed” his son by causing delays obtaining treatment, in a case that has sparked social media outrage.

¡ just clog up the health system with a lethal infectious disease, and kill the kids before they even get to enjoy fuel partial combustion sniffing !

SCIENCE said:

¡ fortunately there’s a fucking simple solution to this !

The father of a three-year-old boy who died from carbon monoxide poisoning in north-west China says strict COVID-19 policies “indirectly killed” his son by causing delays obtaining treatment, in a case that has sparked social media outrage.

¡ just clog up the health system with a lethal infectious disease, and kill the kids before they even get to enjoy fuel partial combustion sniffing !

some the broadcaster’s good work is it, makes a nice distraction from the mass maiming in progress, and the variously inconveniences associated with living with it cough, distortions

i’m wondering if the guardians of liberty will ever be able to respond properly to a nasty contagion again

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

¡ fortunately there’s a fucking simple solution to this !

The father of a three-year-old boy who died from carbon monoxide poisoning in north-west China says strict COVID-19 policies “indirectly killed” his son by causing delays obtaining treatment, in a case that has sparked social media outrage.

¡ just clog up the health system with a lethal infectious disease, and kill the kids before they even get to enjoy fuel partial combustion sniffing !

some the broadcaster’s good work is it, makes a nice distraction from the mass maiming in progress, and the variously inconveniences associated with living with it cough, distortions

i’m wondering if the guardians of liberty will ever be able to respond properly to a nasty contagion again

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-26/inquest-findings-on-ambulance-delays-in-two-deaths/101579274

https://www.triplem.com.au/story/pandemic-contributes-to-extremely-concerning-ambulance-waiting-times-207826

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-63258491

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

¡ fortunately there’s a fucking simple solution to this !

The father of a three-year-old boy who died from carbon monoxide poisoning in north-west China says strict COVID-19 policies “indirectly killed” his son by causing delays obtaining treatment, in a case that has sparked social media outrage.

¡ just clog up the health system with a lethal infectious disease, and kill the kids before they even get to enjoy fuel partial combustion sniffing !

some the broadcaster’s good work is it, makes a nice distraction from the mass maiming in progress, and the variously inconveniences associated with living with it cough, distortions

i’m wondering if the guardians of liberty will ever be able to respond properly to a nasty contagion again

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-26/inquest-findings-on-ambulance-delays-in-two-deaths/101579274

https://www.triplem.com.au/story/pandemic-contributes-to-extremely-concerning-ambulance-waiting-times-207826

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-63258491

The response to Covid did it happen the way you thought it would, people being stupid, ignorant, selfish and greedy
The responses by government seem a reflection of the actual reality of a nations ability and general care for its population rather than how it tries to portray itself to others

Cymek said:

The response to Covid did it happen the way you thought it would, people being stupid, ignorant, selfish and greedy

all right we admit that even we figured it totally wrong, and it turned out they were about 7 times more stupid, ignorant, selfish and greedy than we’d presumed

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

¡ fortunately there’s a fucking simple solution to this !

The father of a three-year-old boy who died from carbon monoxide poisoning in north-west China says strict COVID-19 policies “indirectly killed” his son by causing delays obtaining treatment, in a case that has sparked social media outrage.

¡ just clog up the health system with a lethal infectious disease, and kill the kids before they even get to enjoy fuel partial combustion sniffing !

some the broadcaster’s good work is it, makes a nice distraction from the mass maiming in progress, and the variously inconveniences associated with living with it cough, distortions

i’m wondering if the guardians of liberty will ever be able to respond properly to a nasty contagion again

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-26/inquest-findings-on-ambulance-delays-in-two-deaths/101579274

https://www.triplem.com.au/story/pandemic-contributes-to-extremely-concerning-ambulance-waiting-times-207826

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-63258491

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-03/australia-warned-to-prepare-for-another-covid-19-wave/101611598
just reading that^

and just back from mum’s, wore N95 mask while looking around garden with, and absolutely can’t stand wearing masks anymore, had to get out of there, strange because masks never use to bother me, seemed uncomfortably restricting of breathing

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

some the broadcaster’s good work is it, makes a nice distraction from the mass maiming in progress, and the variously inconveniences associated with living with it cough, distortions

i’m wondering if the guardians of liberty will ever be able to respond properly to a nasty contagion again

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-26/inquest-findings-on-ambulance-delays-in-two-deaths/101579274

https://www.triplem.com.au/story/pandemic-contributes-to-extremely-concerning-ambulance-waiting-times-207826

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-63258491

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-03/australia-warned-to-prepare-for-another-covid-19-wave/101611598
just reading that^

and just back from mum’s, wore N95 mask while looking around garden with, and absolutely can’t stand wearing masks anymore, had to get out of there, strange because masks never use to bother me, seemed uncomfortably restricting of breathing

Maybe because your lungs have been compromised by that virus.

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) is a chronic inflammatory lung disease that causes obstructed airflow from the lungs.

roughbarked said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-26/inquest-findings-on-ambulance-delays-in-two-deaths/101579274

https://www.triplem.com.au/story/pandemic-contributes-to-extremely-concerning-ambulance-waiting-times-207826

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-63258491

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-03/australia-warned-to-prepare-for-another-covid-19-wave/101611598
just reading that^

and just back from mum’s, wore N95 mask while looking around garden with, and absolutely can’t stand wearing masks anymore, had to get out of there, strange because masks never use to bother me, seemed uncomfortably restricting of breathing

Maybe because your lungs have been compromised by that virus.

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) is a chronic inflammatory lung disease that causes obstructed airflow from the lungs.

be ac unt wouldn’t‘t, can’t wear a mask anymore because i’mf ucked up from covid

transition said:

roughbarked said:

transition said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-03/australia-warned-to-prepare-for-another-covid-19-wave/101611598
just reading that^

and just back from mum’s, wore N95 mask while looking around garden with, and absolutely can’t stand wearing masks anymore, had to get out of there, strange because masks never use to bother me, seemed uncomfortably restricting of breathing

Maybe because your lungs have been compromised by that virus.

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) is a chronic inflammatory lung disease that causes obstructed airflow from the lungs.

be ac unt wouldn’t‘t, can’t wear a mask anymore because i’mf ucked up from covid

there’s a variety of good ones, we tried fit a few, some flow better than others

LOL

https://www.actuaries.digital/2022/11/03/covid-19-mortality-working-group-another-month-of-high-excess-mortality-in-july-2022/

Masks Are Child Abuse

wait

lol

fk

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wait

lol

fk

thank goodness CHINA still have elimination goals and are fucking themselves up by enabling people to commute to work and be less productive, imagine their Economic Must Growth if they just forced all their drones to work from home

proof that masks don’t work

well obviously when there’s no COVID-19 there, then useless face nappies aren’t protecting you from virus that isn’t there

duh

wait

LOL

ahahahahahahaha oh yes ahahahaha

SCIENCE said:

ahahahahahahaha oh yes ahahahaha

When are they going to admit that Covid is carried & spread by phlogiston.

brilliant

oh shit

no worries

Tamb said:

SCIENCE said:

ahahahahahahaha oh yes ahahahaha

When are they going to admit that Covid is carried & spread by phlogiston.

Burn Them ¡ BURN THEM ¡¡

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

SCIENCE said:

ahahahahahahaha oh yes ahahahaha

When are they going to admit that Covid is carried & spread by phlogiston.

Burn Them ¡ BURN THEM ¡¡

Yes. Phlogiston is good for that.

SCIENCE said:

brilliant

oh shit

no worries

SCIENCE said:

/…cut by me master transition…/

the derrr machine, been in full swing for a long time now, getting kids to spread plague is the terminal phase of consensus supplanting science

SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.actuaries.digital/2022/11/03/covid-19-mortality-working-group-another-month-of-high-excess-mortality-in-july-2022/

That’s about July.

SCIENCE said:

brilliant

That’s amazing

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.actuaries.digital/2022/11/03/covid-19-mortality-working-group-another-month-of-high-excess-mortality-in-july-2022/

That’s about July.

maybe just as bad

good value

monkey skipper said:

SCIENCE said:

Laugh Out Loud Fuck

https://www.9news.com.au/national/australian-doctors-raise-concerns-about-antibiotic-medicine-shortage-exclusive/6c9922db-8ffd-4071-b9d3-7c239d2d2fd5

We Have The Tools

Maggot therapy spikes amid increase in antibiotic resistance
9News Staff – 3h ago

The thought of having wriggling maggots tipped into an open wound might seem like the stuff of nightmares for some people, but for doctors in the United Kingdom the technique is actually a key tool to save lives.

Maggots played a critical role in helping clean and heal wounded soldiers’ injuries during the first World War, and the treatment is now seeing a resurgence.

Data from Britain’s NHS Digital shows the number of treatments given in England increased from 886 in 2008-9 to 1305 a decade later in 2018-19.

Maggot treatment has seen a resurgence in recent times.

The reason behind the increase is antibiotic resistance, an issue becoming increasingly prevalent.

Studies have suggested maggot therapy can be extremely effective in treating hard-to-heal skin wounds, while also costing a lot less than most alternatives.

The treatment includes placing a “tea bag” of larvae – no bigger than a millimetre in size – on top of open tissue, covered with a dressing and left for about four days.

The maggots will then feed on the dead tissue and secrete antimicrobial molecules that disinfect the wound.

Though undesirable for some, many medics are highly in favour of the therapy after witnessing its benefits and effectiveness first-hand.

and decrease in antibiotic availability

SCIENCE said:

monkey skipper said:

SCIENCE said:

Laugh Out Loud Fuck

https://www.9news.com.au/national/australian-doctors-raise-concerns-about-antibiotic-medicine-shortage-exclusive/6c9922db-8ffd-4071-b9d3-7c239d2d2fd5

We Have The Tools

Maggot therapy spikes amid increase in antibiotic resistance
9News Staff – 3h ago

The thought of having wriggling maggots tipped into an open wound might seem like the stuff of nightmares for some people, but for doctors in the United Kingdom the technique is actually a key tool to save lives.

Maggots played a critical role in helping clean and heal wounded soldiers’ injuries during the first World War, and the treatment is now seeing a resurgence.

Data from Britain’s NHS Digital shows the number of treatments given in England increased from 886 in 2008-9 to 1305 a decade later in 2018-19.

Maggot treatment has seen a resurgence in recent times.

The reason behind the increase is antibiotic resistance, an issue becoming increasingly prevalent.

Studies have suggested maggot therapy can be extremely effective in treating hard-to-heal skin wounds, while also costing a lot less than most alternatives.

The treatment includes placing a “tea bag” of larvae – no bigger than a millimetre in size – on top of open tissue, covered with a dressing and left for about four days.

The maggots will then feed on the dead tissue and secrete antimicrobial molecules that disinfect the wound.

Though undesirable for some, many medics are highly in favour of the therapy after witnessing its benefits and effectiveness first-hand.

and decrease in antibiotic availability

make sure you use the right maggots I guess, ones here like live flesh

SCIENCE said:

evolution’s good crosseyed derrr

Queensland Chief Health Officer recommends that people should go to Christmas parties and spend time with their families.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-04/qld-new-covid-strain-explainer-booster-cases-virus/101612028

yeah well apart from having an inevitable and necessary psychopath heading it up

On Monday, Chief Health Officer John Gerrard said “it is quite possible” Queensland would experience a wave “in the coming weeks”, due to growing cases interstate where two new variants are doing the rounds. However, he said any such wave was yet to be detected.

like no fucking shit, you’re not going to know it’s a wave until it’s cycled are you

Michael V said:

Queensland Chief Health Officer recommends that people should go to Christmas parties and spend time with their families.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-04/qld-new-covid-strain-explainer-booster-cases-virus/101612028

To increase homicides and suicides

Australia’s National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance (NCIRS) reckon about 2/3 of Australians (including children) have now had COVID-19.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-04/covid-news-case-numbers-states-territories-australia/101615432

Michael V said:

Australia’s National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance (NCIRS) reckon about 2/3 of Australians (including children) have now had COVID-19.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-04/covid-news-case-numbers-states-territories-australia/101615432

and why not eh, it can only be good news for the majority of the population to be infected by SARACMODWAIDS-CoV, as many times as possible

A Woman Had Cancer 12 Times by Age 36. Her Genes Showed Something Never Seen Before
Felicity Nelson – 1h ago

When Spanish scientists came across a strange case of a woman who had experienced 12 different types of tumor before the age of 36, they decided to dig a little deeper to find out why she was so susceptible to cancer.

A Woman Had Cancer 12 Times by Age 36. Her Genes Showed Something Never Seen Before

The 36-year-old woman was first treated for cancer at the age of two. At the age of 15, she was diagnosed with cervical cancer.

At 20, a salivary gland tumor was surgically removed. A year later, she had further surgery to remove a low-grade sarcoma.

And, as she went through her 20s and 30s, several different tumors were diagnosed.

In total, she has experienced 12 tumors, including five that were malignant.

With the permission of the woman and her family, an international team of researchers, led by the Spanish National Cancer Research Center, took samples of blood and used single-cell DNA sequencing to look at the genetic mutations inside thousands of individual cells.

The researchers discovered something strange; this woman had a one-of-a-kind mutation that made her more prone to cancers.

She had a mutation in both copies of the MAD1L1 gene, which is unheard of in humans.

The MAD1L1 gene is responsible for a key piece of machinery that helps align chromosomes before a cell divides. MAD1L1 has previously been suspected of playing a role in suppressing tumors.

More women receive less invasive cancer treatment

Mutations in the gene aren’t unknown – in fact, members of the woman’s family carried one. But this is the first time both copies of the gene have been found to carry this particular change.

A double (or homozygous) MAD1L1 gene mutation is lethal to mouse embryos, so it’s a very surprising find in humans.

In this woman, the mutation was causing cell replication dysfunction and creating cells with different numbers of chromosomes. Around 30-40 percent of her blood cells had an abnormal number of chromosomes.

Humans normally have 23 pairs of chromosomes inside the nucleus of every cell in our bodies.

Chromosomes are condensed packages of DNA that come in an ‘X’ shape and form when a cell is about to undergo mitosis or cell replication.

In each pair of chromosomes, one comes from the person’s mother and the other comes from the person’s father.

People with a rare condition called ‘mosaic variegated aneuploidy’ (MVA) have various numbers of chromosomes in different cells, like a mosaic of different colored tiles. This condition can be caused by several different genetic mutations, including the one seen in the woman with 12 cancers.

People born with MVA often experience developmental delay, microcephaly (where a child’s head is smaller than normal), intellectual disability, and other congenital defects. They are often predisposed to cancer.

In this case, the woman had no intellectual disabilities and was living a relatively normal life (considering the number of rounds of cancer treatment she had undergone).

“We still don’t understand how this individual could have developed during the embryonic stage, nor could have overcome all these pathologies,” says Marcos Malumbres, a molecular biologist, co-author and the head of the Cell Division and Cancer Group at the Spanish National Cancer Research Center, where this study was done.

While the role of aneuploidy is not well understood in cancer, we do know that around 90 percent of tumors have cancer cells with extra or missing chromosomes.

And we know that a high degree of aneuploidy is associated with worse outcomes in cancer.

The study revealed that people with aneuploidy, such as this woman in the case study, have an “enhanced immune response” that “could provide new opportunities for the clinical management of these patients”, the researchers say.

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Australia’s National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance (NCIRS) reckon about 2/3 of Australians (including children) have now had COVID-19.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-04/covid-news-case-numbers-states-territories-australia/101615432

and why not eh, it can only be good news for the majority of the population to be infected by SARACMODWAIDS-CoV, as many times as possible

must be a lot of long covid out there, recovered + present

25.89 million x .66 × .05(assume 5%+)

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Australia’s National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance (NCIRS) reckon about 2/3 of Australians (including children) have now had COVID-19.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-04/covid-news-case-numbers-states-territories-australia/101615432

and why not eh, it can only be good news for the majority of the population to be infected by SARACMODWAIDS-CoV, as many times as possible

must be a lot of long covid out there, recovered + present

25.89 million x .66 × .05(assume 5%+)

well, call them sequelae, and consider on top that repeat infections happened, and repeats into the future

transition said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

and why not eh, it can only be good news for the majority of the population to be infected by SARACMODWAIDS-CoV, as many times as possible

must be a lot of long covid out there, recovered + present

25.89 million x .66 × .05(assume 5%+)

well, call them sequelae, and consider on top that repeat infections happened, and repeats into the future

I ain’t got it yet.

captain_spalding said:

transition said:

transition said:

must be a lot of long covid out there, recovered + present

25.89 million x .66 × .05(assume 5%+)

well, call them sequelae, and consider on top that repeat infections happened, and repeats into the future

I ain’t got it yet.

I also make that presumption. If I have had it, I didn’t know about it and I didn’t have any symptoms.

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

transition said:

well, call them sequelae, and consider on top that repeat infections happened, and repeats into the future

I ain’t got it yet.

I also make that presumption. If I have had it, I didn’t know about it and I didn’t have any symptoms.

Were probably ‘immune carriers’ like Typhoid Mary. We may have killed thousands between the two of us.

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

I ain’t got it yet.

I also make that presumption. If I have had it, I didn’t know about it and I didn’t have any symptoms.

Were probably ‘immune carriers’ like Typhoid Mary. We may have killed thousands between the two of us.

Exactly, killed babies, old people, people in the prime of their life with everything to look forward to.
And blithely going shopping or to the bakery for breakfast.
It’s not right.

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

transition said:

well, call them sequelae, and consider on top that repeat infections happened, and repeats into the future

I ain’t got it yet.

I also make that presumption. If I have had it, I didn’t know about it and I didn’t have any symptoms.

+1

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

I ain’t got it yet.

I also make that presumption. If I have had it, I didn’t know about it and I didn’t have any symptoms.

Were probably ‘immune carriers’ like Typhoid Mary. We may have killed thousands between the two of us.

Meh, I’m sure you were wearing masks and sanitising your hands and all that.

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

I also make that presumption. If I have had it, I didn’t know about it and I didn’t have any symptoms.

Were probably ‘immune carriers’ like Typhoid Mary. We may have killed thousands between the two of us.

Exactly, killed babies, old people, people in the prime of their life with everything to look forward to.
And blithely going shopping or to the bakery for breakfast.
It’s not right.

I should wear a black cloak and carry a scythe.

transition said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

and why not eh, it can only be good news for the majority of the population to be infected by SARACMODWAIDS-CoV, as many times as possible

must be a lot of long covid out there, recovered + present

25.89 million x .66 × .05(assume 5%+)

well, call them sequelae, and consider on top that repeat infections happened, and repeats into the future

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-03/two-thirds-australians-covid-19-infections-ncirs-research/101608164
and just readed that^

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID
“…..Estimates of the prevalence of long COVID vary based on definition, population studied, time period studied, and methodology, generally ranging between 5% and 50%. Health systems in some countries and jurisdictions have been mobilized to deal with this group of patients by creating specialized clinics and providing advice

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Were probably ‘immune carriers’ like Typhoid Mary. We may have killed thousands between the two of us.

Exactly, killed babies, old people, people in the prime of their life with everything to look forward to.
And blithely going shopping or to the bakery for breakfast.
It’s not right.

I should wear a black cloak and carry a scythe.

i did a trick or treat up at the old folks home dressed like that.

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

I ain’t got it yet.

I also make that presumption. If I have had it, I didn’t know about it and I didn’t have any symptoms.

Were probably ‘immune carriers’ like Typhoid Mary. We may have killed thousands between the two of us.

Or our immune systems went “Pfft! Another coronavirus! Seen enough of them before – you won’t catch me with that old thing again!!”

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

I also make that presumption. If I have had it, I didn’t know about it and I didn’t have any symptoms.

Were probably ‘immune carriers’ like Typhoid Mary. We may have killed thousands between the two of us.

Meh, I’m sure you were wearing masks and sanitising your hands and all that.

Probably more that I retired 8 months before it arrived and I so enjoy not seeing people…

sibeen said:

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

I ain’t got it yet.

I also make that presumption. If I have had it, I didn’t know about it and I didn’t have any symptoms.

+1

And another +1

AussieDJ said:

sibeen said:

buffy said:

I also make that presumption. If I have had it, I didn’t know about it and I didn’t have any symptoms.

+1

And another +1

+1

No-one in the immediate family has had it either.

AussieDJ said:

sibeen said:

buffy said:

I also make that presumption. If I have had it, I didn’t know about it and I didn’t have any symptoms.

+1

And another +1

Scratch that – buggerit!. I’ve had a cold for a couple of days. Did a RAT two days ago, with a negative result.

I just did another test, after noticing that my dinner tasted off, as did the follow-up after dinner coffee.

This one is positive. Grrr!

AussieDJ said:

AussieDJ said:

sibeen said:

+1

And another +1

Scratch that – buggerit!. I’ve had a cold for a couple of days. Did a RAT two days ago, with a negative result.

I just did another test, after noticing that my dinner tasted off, as did the follow-up after dinner coffee.

This one is positive. Grrr!

:(

AussieDJ said:

AussieDJ said:

sibeen said:

+1

And another +1

Scratch that – buggerit!. I’ve had a cold for a couple of days. Did a RAT two days ago, with a negative result.

I just did another test, after noticing that my dinner tasted off, as did the follow-up after dinner coffee.

This one is positive. Grrr!

Bugger.

AussieDJ said:

AussieDJ said:

sibeen said:

+1

And another +1

Scratch that – buggerit!. I’ve had a cold for a couple of days. Did a RAT two days ago, with a negative result.

I just did another test, after noticing that my dinner tasted off, as did the follow-up after dinner coffee.

This one is positive. Grrr!

Oh, that’s no good. Hope you recover quickly.

party_pants said:

AussieDJ said:

AussieDJ said:

And another +1

Scratch that – buggerit!. I’ve had a cold for a couple of days. Did a RAT two days ago, with a negative result.

I just did another test, after noticing that my dinner tasted off, as did the follow-up after dinner coffee.

This one is positive. Grrr!

Oh, that’s no good. Hope you recover quickly.

Thank you.

I’ve just filled in the (Vic) Government online ‘Report a positive RAT’ form. It looks like I’ll be chasing up my GP to get a script for an anti-viral medication which is meant to be taken within five days of becoming unwell. I might just scrape in on that. I thought I had a cold, didn’t I? So didn’t worry about testing.

Ho hum. A new adventure.

AussieDJ said:

party_pants said:

AussieDJ said:

Scratch that – buggerit!. I’ve had a cold for a couple of days. Did a RAT two days ago, with a negative result.

I just did another test, after noticing that my dinner tasted off, as did the follow-up after dinner coffee.

This one is positive. Grrr!

Oh, that’s no good. Hope you recover quickly.

Thank you.

I’ve just filled in the (Vic) Government online ‘Report a positive RAT’ form. It looks like I’ll be chasing up my GP to get a script for an anti-viral medication which is meant to be taken within five days of becoming unwell. I might just scrape in on that. I thought I had a cold, didn’t I? So didn’t worry about testing.

Ho hum. A new adventure.

Do you plan on isolating yourself from the forum?

good luck

sibeen said:

AussieDJ said:

party_pants said:

Oh, that’s no good. Hope you recover quickly.

Thank you.

I’ve just filled in the (Vic) Government online ‘Report a positive RAT’ form. It looks like I’ll be chasing up my GP to get a script for an anti-viral medication which is meant to be taken within five days of becoming unwell. I might just scrape in on that. I thought I had a cold, didn’t I? So didn’t worry about testing.

Ho hum. A new adventure.

Do you plan on isolating yourself from the forum?

SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

AussieDJ said:

Thank you.

I’ve just filled in the (Vic) Government online ‘Report a positive RAT’ form. It looks like I’ll be chasing up my GP to get a script for an anti-viral medication which is meant to be taken within five days of becoming unwell. I might just scrape in on that. I thought I had a cold, didn’t I? So didn’t worry about testing.

Ho hum. A new adventure.

Do you plan on isolating yourself from the forum?

Don’t be silly, that’s only 30 mA of isolation. I’m worried about Aussie and his terrible infliction. I’ve poured beer all over my keyboard as a prophylactic.

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

Do you plan on isolating yourself from the forum?

Don’t be silly, that’s only 30 mA of isolation. I’m worried about Aussie and his terrible infliction. I’ve poured beer all over my keyboard as a prophylactic.

Isolating myself from the forum?

Depends on what I feel like on the day, I suppose.

There’s a limit to how much TV I can watch .. similar to poking around the interwebs.

Funnily enough, I’ve just had two weeks off work – the first on Sick Leave because I had dental surgery involving a day in hospital, and the second week was planned Rec Leave. I’ll see whether the GP will give me another week off. Although, working from home for the past couple of years has meant not going into the office anyway, so there shouldn’t be much difference there, anyway.

Covid still going on ?

ah well, working from home wouldn’t have saved the spouse

Reflecting on the havoc being wrought that day, Ms Pelosi told then acting attorney-general Jeffrey Rosen: “They’re obviously ransacking our offices; that’s nothing.” “The concern we have is about personal safety — it just transcends everything,” she said.

strange

https://www.smh.com.au/national/what-the-future-of-living-with-covid-looks-like-20221103-p5bvap.html

reading that^ ‘artful’ writly endeavor again, some study of the art, the weaving of optimized truth

UK researchers cure man who had COVID for 411 days

British researchers announced Friday they have cured a man who was continually infected with COVID for 411 days by analyzing the genetic code of his particular virus to find the right treatment.

more…

Tau.Neutrino said:

UK researchers cure man who had COVID for 411 days

British researchers announced Friday they have cured a man who was continually infected with COVID for 411 days by analyzing the genetic code of his particular virus to find the right treatment.

more…

Bespoke virology.

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Good News ¡ The Communist Left Is In Decline

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/06/suella-braverman-was-warned-hate-speech-could-inspire-far-right

fkn communists

I readed about some trickle-down-stoicism courtesy the broadcaster, all on the steeper learning curve getting more immersively acquainted with who their master is as the wheels fall off the debt-driven-delusions
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-06/people-are-showing-up-to-work-sick-or-injured/101614192

legitimate SCIENCE in action

transition said:

I readed about some trickle-down-stoicism courtesy the broadcaster, all on the steeper learning curve getting more immersively acquainted with who their master is as the wheels fall off the debt-driven-delusions
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-06/people-are-showing-up-to-work-sick-or-injured/101614192

https://www.brookings.edu/research/new-data-shows-long-covid-is-keeping-as-many-as-4-million-people-out-of-work/
readed that^

china’s approach is quite respectable by comparison, or in any way really, no comparison required

not really COVID-19 or SARACMODWAIDS-CoV but anyway Burrhus Frederic would be smashing that reward lever in his coffin

https://twitter.com/welder_wacky/status/1589013470351327232

SCIENCE said:

legitimate SCIENCE in action

largely a bullshit notion that has appeal, not much thought required, promotes the idea that the sooner you get something the sooner you get an immunity credit

dumb crap accepted by idiots that think evolution is their friend, a notion that passes for morality these days, or instead of

—

transition said:

transition said:

I readed about some trickle-down-stoicism courtesy the broadcaster, all on the steeper learning curve getting more immersively acquainted with who their master is as the wheels fall off the debt-driven-delusions
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-06/people-are-showing-up-to-work-sick-or-injured/101614192

https://www.brookings.edu/research/new-data-shows-long-covid-is-keeping-as-many-as-4-million-people-out-of-work/
readed that^

china’s approach is quite respectable by comparison, or in any way really, no comparison required

first paragraph says’t as it is, people act is if the pandemic is over, but it rages on with the mass maiming courtesy the hosts

https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/covid-new-variants-hospitalisations-skyrocket/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-07/covid-19-coronavirus-case-numbers-rising-australia-paul-kelly/101622916

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-07/covid-19-coronavirus-case-numbers-rising-australia-paul-kelly/101622916

Not wearing masks,
not staying home when sick,
not washing their hands,
and those not vaccinated.

What’s so special about 19 November 2022?

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-07/covid-19-coronavirus-case-numbers-rising-australia-paul-kelly/101622916

I think we should close our borders to Vic and WA where case numbers are the worst with the new strain.
Or at least make them wear an UNLEAN tag.

Australia’s Jillaroos have recorded the biggest victory in Women’s Rugby League World Cup history, taking apart France 92-0 in their second group game.

Woodie said:

What’s so special about 19 November 2022?

It’s two days after my next house inspection.

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-07/covid-19-coronavirus-case-numbers-rising-australia-paul-kelly/101622916

I think we should close our borders to Vic and WA where case numbers are the worst with the new strain.
Or at least make them wear an UNLEAN tag.

fat chance of that!

JudgeMental said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-07/covid-19-coronavirus-case-numbers-rising-australia-paul-kelly/101622916

I think we should close our borders to Vic and WA where case numbers are the worst with the new strain.
Or at least make them wear an UNLEAN tag.

fat chance of that!

Close them to all States which have daylight saving.

Tamb said:

JudgeMental said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I think we should close our borders to Vic and WA where case numbers are the worst with the new strain.
Or at least make them wear an UNLEAN tag.

fat chance of that!

Close them to all States which have daylight saving.

Yes. No room for heresy here.

uh oops

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-07/research-finds-long-covid-has-rapidly-ageing-effect/101624672

SCIENCE said:

uh oops

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-07/research-finds-long-covid-has-rapidly-ageing-effect/101624672

an allergy to plague

makes me wonder what purpose native aversion to disease might serve, in the context it were dissolved by ‘inevitability’

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

uh oops

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-07/research-finds-long-covid-has-rapidly-ageing-effect/101624672

an allergy to plague

makes me wonder what purpose native aversion to disease might serve, in the context it were dissolved by ‘inevitability’

and did the replication rate decline any when the notion of living with covid spread with the virus – accommodating it – did the injury rate decline really, and who now can separate the hosts enthusiasm to live with it from the virus itself

LOL fuck the headline writers slash fuck the headline writers are arseholes but yeah in some ways the distortions are hilarious

School shut down after ONE student tests positive

https://www.2gb.com/exclusive-school-shut-down-after-one-student-tests-positive/

“Over the weekend one-third of our secondary staff have tested positive to COVID-19… placing pressure on teaching, supervision and operational needs at our school,” the letter read. “At this stage, there is only one confirmed case of COVID-19 amongst our secondary students.”

SCIENCE said:

LOL fuck the headline writers slash fuck the headline writers are arseholes but yeah in some ways the distortions are hilarious

School shut down after ONE student tests positive

https://www.2gb.com/exclusive-school-shut-down-after-one-student-tests-positive/

“Over the weekend one-third of our secondary staff have tested positive to COVID-19… placing pressure on teaching, supervision and operational needs at our school,” the letter read. “At this stage, there is only one confirmed case of COVID-19 amongst our secondary students.”

thou shalt not interrupt the spread of plague, the live-virus immunization, the mass maiming, the health blinding

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL fuck the headline writers slash fuck the headline writers are arseholes but yeah in some ways the distortions are hilarious

School shut down after ONE student tests positive

https://www.2gb.com/exclusive-school-shut-down-after-one-student-tests-positive/

“Over the weekend one-third of our secondary staff have tested positive to COVID-19… placing pressure on teaching, supervision and operational needs at our school,” the letter read. “At this stage, there is only one confirmed case of COVID-19 amongst our secondary students.”

thou shalt not interrupt the spread of plague, the live-virus immunization, the mass maiming, the health blinding

the good news is, the 0.9 of the population receiving the wonderful biowarfare g[r]ft will be so retarded when they grow up that they can go forward and blindly continue the bullshit

schools don’t need staff they only need students

Is the Great China Covid Reopening a Myth or a Must?
Beijing is at risk of raising the debt ceiling and ruining its relatively clean balance sheet. That’s quite a price to pay.

By Shuli Ren
9 November 2022 at 06:00 GMT+11

Shuli Ren is a Bloomberg Opinion columnist covering Asian markets. A former investment banker, she was a markets reporter for Barron’s.
In recent days, investors bought up the yuan, copper and Chinese stocks largely on unconfirmed social media posts that Beijing is considering an exit from its stringent Covid-Zero policy. Their enthusiasm was barely dented by stern comments last weekend from officials at the National Health Commission, who pledged to “unswervingly” adhere to the government’s virus controls.

It’s a trillion dollar question. The entire market is now playing a guessing game and acting on it. So is China reopening a myth?

Investors have latched onto various faint tea leaves, but seeing is believing. The only concrete, significant evidence I have seen is a notable uptick in vaccinations in the last two weeks. The daily run rate of boosting the elderly is at its highest since early June, after months of inaction. It’s a sign that preparation for reopening is underway, and that the market rally is not based entirely on speculation.

But more importantly, it is increasingly clear that reopening is no longer a policy choice, but a must. The latest omicron wave has placed more than half of China’s economy in high- or mid-risk areas, which in turn result in restricted personal freedoms and business activities. In terms of economic impact, it is even worse than the harsh two-month Shanghai lockdown earlier in the year.

Maintaining Covid Zero is incredibly expensive. Daily PCR tests, groceries delivered to locked-down households, and forgone business taxes all cost money. Even before the latest wave, China was estimated to be facing a record 4 trillion yuan ($552 billion) fiscal funding gap this year, fulfilled by all of the government’s past budgetary savings, all its unused bond quota, as well as some future income. So what happens when 2023 comes around and omicron just won’t go away, debilitating the bureaucratic apparatus with more frequent outbreaks?

If this health policy continues, inevitably, Beijing will have to raise the debt ceiling and ruin its relatively clean balance sheet, which it has tried hard to maintain. Already in the third quarter, government debt-to-GDP ratio rose to 49.4%, an almost 5 percentage point increase from two years ago. The question becomes: Does China want any more debt? Corporate borrowings alone hit 160% of GDP, making the country one of the world’s most indebted nations.

Of course, the worry is a chaotic reopening will result in millions of deaths and ambulance sirens ringing late into the night. But after almost three years of preparation, China has a much more viable roadmap. According to CLSA estimates, the number of hospital beds per 1,000 residents will rise to 5.5 by this year-end, much higher than the 2.4 figure in the US and UK.

Plus, an opening does not mean throwing in the towel — or “ lying flat” in party propaganda language. Here is one possibility floated by CLSA analyst Zhijie Zhao: The government can go through stages, allowing well-equipped coastal cities to open up first, while other regions provide support to mitigate the risk of shortages in medical personnel and supplies. This is an exercise some local government officials are already familiar with. During the Shanghai lockdown, neighboring Zhejiang and Jiangsu provinces were on stand-by, sending over their doctors and hosting patients and close contacts from the metropolis.

I made an argument a month ago that a China reopening can happen a lot faster than economists thought. As long as Beijing still cares about fiscal discipline, it will have to take risks and allow some Covid deaths.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-11-08/china-reopening-is-a-break-from-covid-zero-a-myth-or-a-must?

UK ZeroCOVID Strategy Blamed For NHS Collapse And Widespread Death

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-are-excess-deaths-higher-now-than-during-covid/

SCIENCE said:

UK ZeroCOVID Strategy Blamed For NHS Collapse And Widespread Death

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-are-excess-deaths-higher-now-than-during-covid/

the advanced social psychology lesson, courtesy the news

SCIENCE said:

apparently not everyone is equally allergic to covid, quite a challenging proposition to the stealthy immunological egalitarianism that does the good work of ideology

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

UK ZeroCOVID Strategy Blamed For NHS Collapse And Widespread Death

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-are-excess-deaths-higher-now-than-during-covid/

the advanced social psychology lesson, courtesy the news

hmm actually if you draw a upper bound line there and map measures / protections onto it then it probably shows the benefits as opposed to how the grifters draw it

Laugh Out Loud Fuck Ahahaha Yous Got Trolled Hard

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2022-11-10/covid-omicron-xbb-bq1-subvariants-sublineages-wave-infections/101617744
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-10/qld-covid19-coronavirus-fourth-wave-arrives-vaccine-rate-masks/101638046

“It means that it is recommended that we should wear a mask in healthcare settings, on public transport and rideshares, indoors where you cannot socially distance and if you are around people who are vulnerable to COVID,” Ms Palaszczuk said.

wait what was that again

wear a mask in healthcare settings, on public transport and rideshares, indoors where you cannot socially distance and if you are around people who are vulnerable

LOL

SCIENCE said:

Laugh Out Loud Fuck Ahahaha Yous Got Trolled Hard

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2022-11-10/covid-omicron-xbb-bq1-subvariants-sublineages-wave-infections/101617744
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-10/qld-covid19-coronavirus-fourth-wave-arrives-vaccine-rate-masks/101638046

“It means that it is recommended that we should wear a mask in healthcare settings, on public transport and rideshares, indoors where you cannot socially distance and if you are around people who are vulnerable to COVID,” Ms Palaszczuk said.

wait what was that again

wear a mask in healthcare settings, on public transport and rideshares, indoors where you cannot socially distance and if you are around people who are vulnerable

LOL

superpandemic seems to be accelerating, or the potential’s certainly elevated depending how much positive spin might be deployed to offset while reconciling or embracing the evolution, the accelerationists be happy anyway, they enjoy the sensation of the force of culture, like it were a force of nature, accelerating, like they just inhaled deeply on their crack pipe, if you don’t mind an unfriendly analogy representing that sort of exhilaration

goodoh

people who are vulnerable is at least 5% of the population(for adverse long-covid-related-sequelae), those vulnerable aren’t known for sure to be vulnerable by anyone, or the extent of the vulnerability more to it, but it’s statistically valid, though a few of them you might ask if they think they could be vulnerable, having had something of a lifetime of proximate experience of their immune systems, but thou shalt not question the invisible instruments of ideology, the stealthy devices that help the bullshit work

and did I mention the risks associated with constant repeat exposure, maybe I did

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

Laugh Out Loud Fuck Ahahaha Yous Got Trolled Hard

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2022-11-10/covid-omicron-xbb-bq1-subvariants-sublineages-wave-infections/101617744
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-10/qld-covid19-coronavirus-fourth-wave-arrives-vaccine-rate-masks/101638046

“It means that it is recommended that we should wear a mask in healthcare settings, on public transport and rideshares, indoors where you cannot socially distance and if you are around people who are vulnerable to COVID,” Ms Palaszczuk said.

wait what was that again

wear a mask in healthcare settings, on public transport and rideshares, indoors where you cannot socially distance and if you are around people who are vulnerable

LOL

superpandemic seems to be accelerating, or the potential’s certainly elevated depending how much positive spin might be deployed to offset while reconciling or embracing the evolution, the accelerationists be happy anyway, they enjoy the sensation of the force of culture, like it were a force of nature, accelerating, like they just inhaled deeply on their crack pipe, if you don’t mind an unfriendly analogy representing that sort of exhilaration

goodoh

people who are vulnerable is at least 5% of the population(for adverse long-covid-related-sequelae), those vulnerable aren’t known for sure to be vulnerable by anyone, or the extent of the vulnerability more to it, but it’s statistically valid, though a few of them you might ask if they think they could be vulnerable, having had something of a lifetime of proximate experience of their immune systems, but thou shalt not question the invisible instruments of ideology, the stealthy devices that help the bullshit work

and did I mention the risks associated with constant repeat exposure, maybe I did

It makes you stronger and unlikely to get dementia in old age.

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

Laugh Out Loud Fuck Ahahaha Yous Got Trolled Hard

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2022-11-10/covid-omicron-xbb-bq1-subvariants-sublineages-wave-infections/101617744
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-10/qld-covid19-coronavirus-fourth-wave-arrives-vaccine-rate-masks/101638046

“It means that it is recommended that we should wear a mask in healthcare settings, on public transport and rideshares, indoors where you cannot socially distance and if you are around people who are vulnerable to COVID,” Ms Palaszczuk said.

wait what was that again

wear a mask in healthcare settings, on public transport and rideshares, indoors where you cannot socially distance and if you are around people who are vulnerable

LOL

superpandemic seems to be accelerating, or the potential’s certainly elevated depending how much positive spin might be deployed to offset while reconciling or embracing the evolution, the accelerationists be happy anyway, they enjoy the sensation of the force of culture, like it were a force of nature, accelerating, like they just inhaled deeply on their crack pipe, if you don’t mind an unfriendly analogy representing that sort of exhilaration

goodoh

people who are vulnerable is at least 5% of the population(for adverse long-covid-related-sequelae), those vulnerable aren’t known for sure to be vulnerable by anyone, or the extent of the vulnerability more to it, but it’s statistically valid, though a few of them you might ask if they think they could be vulnerable, having had something of a lifetime of proximate experience of their immune systems, but thou shalt not question the invisible instruments of ideology, the stealthy devices that help the bullshit work

and did I mention the risks associated with constant repeat exposure, maybe I did

It makes you stronger and unlikely to get dementia in old age.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-10/qld-covid19-coronavirus-fourth-wave-arrives-vaccine-rate-masks/101638046

‘spreading across the US and Europe’, must be good then, got to get me some of that, maybe I could get two variants at the same time, help with the recombo thing, what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger i’ve heard it said, which is true except where it isn’t, and it isn’t often as it goes, yeah derrr, welcome the social dimension of diminished responsibility, it’s a gift, a liberty

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/11/09/sam-bankman-fried-no-longer-a-billionaire-after-146b-overnight-wipe-out/

Kind of weird that a cryptocurrency billionaire who went bust is called Bankman-Fried.

dv said:

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/11/09/sam-bankman-fried-no-longer-a-billionaire-after-146b-overnight-wipe-out/

Kind of weird that a cryptocurrency billionaire who went bust is called Bankman-Fried.

Like an icecream man with the name Cone

Cymek said:

dv said:

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/11/09/sam-bankman-fried-no-longer-a-billionaire-after-146b-overnight-wipe-out/

Kind of weird that a cryptocurrency billionaire who went bust is called Bankman-Fried.

Like an icecream man with the name Cone

I remember one time I saw there was an article about alien creatures by an author called M. Othman, and I thought “ha ha, obv a joke piece, Mothman”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothman

But no … Mazlan Othman is a Malaysian astrophysicist who was Director of the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs.

Someone from the Boomtown Rats has died.
I’d forgotten about them, only had one hit really, it’s not on my playlist.
I’d also forgotten that Bob Geldof was their lead singer.

Peak Warming Man said:

Someone from the Boomtown Rats has died.
I’d forgotten about them, only had one hit really, it’s not on my playlist.
I’d also forgotten that Bob Geldof was their lead singer.

I’d also forgotten that this thread is about covid.

Guangzhou, world’s manufacturing hub, on brink of lockdown

By Eryk Bagshaw
Updated November 10, 2022 — 7.06pmfirst published at 3.45pm

Singapore: Three districts already shut down, 2555 new COVID cases in a day and a population of 19 million hanging on every word from local health authorities. Guangzhou, the Chinese metropolis and global manufacturing hub, is teetering on the edge of a Shanghai-style lockdown.

Residents say they hope it does not come to that, but it may be out of their control as President Xi Jinping and the central government in Beijing reaffirm their commitment to a COVID-zero policy that has sapped the country’s economic growth and triggered pockets of dissent.

Guangzhou is more exposed to international trade than Shanghai and any lockdown is likely to have a flow-on effect to consumers already grappling with surging inflation around the world, including in Australia.

“What I think will happen is that they will have a citywide shutdown, which may last for a while like it did in Shanghai,” said Ben Cowling, the chair professor of epidemiology at the University of Hong Kong.

“Because it seems like the measures that have been in place the past week, are not quite strong enough to completely stop transmission.”

Zhang Yi, the deputy director of the Guangzhou health commission, described Haizhu district – home to 2 million people and several universities – as the “main battlefield” on Wednesday while ordering residents not to go out “unless absolutely necessary”. Two other districts Liwan and Panyu have also been put under “stricter control measures” and a “closed-loop” management system, a Chinese government euphemism that refers to shutting down areas from the rest of the world.

“Relevant departments will strengthen nucleic acid testing and screening in the districts where COVID-19 has hit hard in order to find infected people and block the transmission chains,” said Zhang.

Guangzhou has been largely spared from the harsh lockdowns seen in dozens of other cities across the country for the past year, but that has not stopped frustration from bubbling over. Videos posted online that could not be independently verified show residents tearing down lockdown barriers and chanting, “lift lockdown! Lift lockdown!”

Ryan Li, a fitness coach in Guangzhou, said all the schools in his district had been closed down.

“So are gyms and other entertainment venues,” he said. “I don’t know how long this will last because they only say it’s a three-day period, but it will be repeated again and again.”

Harry Harding, an Australian living in Guangzhou, said locals were growing “more and more frustrated with the policy”, but generally, people were still complying.

“A comparison of daily case numbers between Guangzhou and Shanghai has been circulating and the new daily totals are on par with Shanghai – we are approaching the point that Shanghai went into lockdown,” he said.

“I think the local Guangzhou government really wants to avoid a full lockdown, but I think many people are concerned that the central government might make a decision on behalf of Guangzhou.”

Harding said while there was a split between residents who supported COVID-zero and those who did not, there was “still a general sense that things need to change pretty soon”.

“Guangzhou being such a large trade city, dynamic COVID-zero has definitely brought down consumer sentiment, and it is impacting a lot of businesses,” he said.

Li said before the pandemic he had 50 clients who could afford fitness packages of $20,000 a year.

“But in the first year of the pandemic, I lost a dozen of them, then another dozen in the second year,” he said.

“Now, they can’t make money anymore and some have gone bankrupt. A monthly salary of was common for me in the past. However, I can barely make . It’s hard to get new contracts or renew the old ones.”

Arnab Nath, an economist at GlobalData, said China’s economic growth would slump to 3.1 per cent in 2022, a 2 per cent drop from the 5.1 per cent estimated in February.

November 11 is “Singles’ Day” in China, the world’s largest online shopping event. Last year it took in $287 billion in sales, according to Bain & Co. Bloomberg estimates that figure will fall for the first time this year.

“Politics and healthcare are the two core drivers of the zero-COVID strategy,” said Nath. “Healthcare-wise, China is expected to face a difficult winter with inadequate hospital supplies as the old age population is still not fully vaccinated.”

Local authorities have attempted to spare major manufacturing and business hubs in Guangzhou from the strictest lockdowns. Baiyun, where the international airport and a major FedEx freight headquarters are based, has yet to be put under a closed loop. But residents are wary of those concessions changing quickly after Foxconn, the world’s largest iPhone factory was locked down in Zhengzhou in October.

Cowling said China’s COVID-zero strategy was out of date, expensive, inefficient and discouraged the last vaccine-hesitant older residents from getting inoculated.

“A year ago, it made a lot of sense to go really hard on COVID-zero,” he said. “But now, given the vaccine coverage in over 60s is about 90 per cent, only some of the really old people are still lagging behind. If there is an announcement that there is no more COVID-zero then I think that vaccine coverage is going to pick up in the older adults very quickly.”

Cowling is based just across the bay from Guangdong in Hong Kong, where local authorities have cautiously shifted away from COVID-zero while maintaining some restrictions on travel and mask mandates. On Wednesday, the government announced trail runners would be allowed to eat bananas on their run, ending one of the city’s more specific COVID restrictions while retaining others including health codes to enter premises on smartphones.

“I think a lot of people in Hong Kong now recognise that we are past the worst of COVID because we had this enormous wave of infections earlier this year when we had more than 10,000 COVID deaths. Regionally, we’re like the worst place actually in terms of the death rate from COVID,” said Cowling.

“So it may no longer be the case that we face a high probability of a large number of deaths because we’ve had it, unfortunately, and it’s not going to happen again.”

Harding said Guangzhou could become a precedent for how the mainland handles COVID for the rest of the pandemic.

“Due to the national policy, there is no way Guangzhou could let cases rise much further,” he said. “But how they go about containing it will be the key, and if they can manage this outbreak while avoiding a citywide lockdown, I think it would put pressure on other cities to do the same moving forward until the policy is adjusted.”

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/guangzhou-world-s-manufacturing-hub-on-brink-of-lockdown-20221110-p5bx6h.html

Witty Rejoinder said:

Guangzhou, world’s manufacturing hub, on brink of lockdown

By Eryk Bagshaw
Updated November 10, 2022 — 7.06pmfirst published at 3.45pm

Singapore: Three districts already shut down, 2555 new COVID cases in a day and a population of 19 million hanging on every word from local health authorities. Guangzhou, the Chinese metropolis and global manufacturing hub, is teetering on the edge of a Shanghai-style lockdown.

Residents say they hope it does not come to that, but it may be out of their control as President Xi Jinping and the central government in Beijing reaffirm their commitment to a COVID-zero policy that has sapped the country’s economic growth and triggered pockets of dissent.

Guangzhou is more exposed to international trade than Shanghai and any lockdown is likely to have a flow-on effect to consumers already grappling with surging inflation around the world, including in Australia.

“What I think will happen is that they will have a citywide shutdown, which may last for a while like it did in Shanghai,” said Ben Cowling, the chair professor of epidemiology at the University of Hong Kong.

“Because it seems like the measures that have been in place the past week, are not quite strong enough to completely stop transmission.”

Zhang Yi, the deputy director of the Guangzhou health commission, described Haizhu district – home to 2 million people and several universities – as the “main battlefield” on Wednesday while ordering residents not to go out “unless absolutely necessary”. Two other districts Liwan and Panyu have also been put under “stricter control measures” and a “closed-loop” management system, a Chinese government euphemism that refers to shutting down areas from the rest of the world.

“Relevant departments will strengthen nucleic acid testing and screening in the districts where COVID-19 has hit hard in order to find infected people and block the transmission chains,” said Zhang.

Guangzhou has been largely spared from the harsh lockdowns seen in dozens of other cities across the country for the past year, but that has not stopped frustration from bubbling over. Videos posted online that could not be independently verified show residents tearing down lockdown barriers and chanting, “lift lockdown! Lift lockdown!”

Ryan Li, a fitness coach in Guangzhou, said all the schools in his district had been closed down.

“So are gyms and other entertainment venues,” he said. “I don’t know how long this will last because they only say it’s a three-day period, but it will be repeated again and again.”

Harry Harding, an Australian living in Guangzhou, said locals were growing “more and more frustrated with the policy”, but generally, people were still complying.

“A comparison of daily case numbers between Guangzhou and Shanghai has been circulating and the new daily totals are on par with Shanghai – we are approaching the point that Shanghai went into lockdown,” he said.

“I think the local Guangzhou government really wants to avoid a full lockdown, but I think many people are concerned that the central government might make a decision on behalf of Guangzhou.”

Harding said while there was a split between residents who supported COVID-zero and those who did not, there was “still a general sense that things need to change pretty soon”.

“Guangzhou being such a large trade city, dynamic COVID-zero has definitely brought down consumer sentiment, and it is impacting a lot of businesses,” he said.

Li said before the pandemic he had 50 clients who could afford fitness packages of $20,000 a year.

“But in the first year of the pandemic, I lost a dozen of them, then another dozen in the second year,” he said.

“Now, they can’t make money anymore and some have gone bankrupt. A monthly salary of was common for me in the past. However, I can barely make . It’s hard to get new contracts or renew the old ones.”

Arnab Nath, an economist at GlobalData, said China’s economic growth would slump to 3.1 per cent in 2022, a 2 per cent drop from the 5.1 per cent estimated in February.

November 11 is “Singles’ Day” in China, the world’s largest online shopping event. Last year it took in $287 billion in sales, according to Bain & Co. Bloomberg estimates that figure will fall for the first time this year.

“Politics and healthcare are the two core drivers of the zero-COVID strategy,” said Nath. “Healthcare-wise, China is expected to face a difficult winter with inadequate hospital supplies as the old age population is still not fully vaccinated.”

Local authorities have attempted to spare major manufacturing and business hubs in Guangzhou from the strictest lockdowns. Baiyun, where the international airport and a major FedEx freight headquarters are based, has yet to be put under a closed loop. But residents are wary of those concessions changing quickly after Foxconn, the world’s largest iPhone factory was locked down in Zhengzhou in October.

Cowling said China’s COVID-zero strategy was out of date, expensive, inefficient and discouraged the last vaccine-hesitant older residents from getting inoculated.

“A year ago, it made a lot of sense to go really hard on COVID-zero,” he said. “But now, given the vaccine coverage in over 60s is about 90 per cent, only some of the really old people are still lagging behind. If there is an announcement that there is no more COVID-zero then I think that vaccine coverage is going to pick up in the older adults very quickly.”

Cowling is based just across the bay from Guangdong in Hong Kong, where local authorities have cautiously shifted away from COVID-zero while maintaining some restrictions on travel and mask mandates. On Wednesday, the government announced trail runners would be allowed to eat bananas on their run, ending one of the city’s more specific COVID restrictions while retaining others including health codes to enter premises on smartphones.

“I think a lot of people in Hong Kong now recognise that we are past the worst of COVID because we had this enormous wave of infections earlier this year when we had more than 10,000 COVID deaths. Regionally, we’re like the worst place actually in terms of the death rate from COVID,” said Cowling.

“So it may no longer be the case that we face a high probability of a large number of deaths because we’ve had it, unfortunately, and it’s not going to happen again.”

Harding said Guangzhou could become a precedent for how the mainland handles COVID for the rest of the pandemic.

“Due to the national policy, there is no way Guangzhou could let cases rise much further,” he said. “But how they go about containing it will be the key, and if they can manage this outbreak while avoiding a citywide lockdown, I think it would put pressure on other cities to do the same moving forward until the policy is adjusted.”

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/guangzhou-world-s-manufacturing-hub-on-brink-of-lockdown-20221110-p5bx6h.html

They need to buy western vaccines, and make the people line up for their jabs.

It is the only way out.

worked for everyone else

LOL

whingers

SCIENCE said:

LOL

whingers

wowsers

LOL

ahahahahahaha

so-called experts that can’t even fix something that needs attention

https://twitter.com/CHEO/status/1590430577131487232

pity about the immunity debt

https://www.ecr.co.za/news/news/uganda-close-schools-after-eight-children-die-ebola/

quick and fun summary

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMcibr2210069

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

whingers

wowsers

LOL

strained thought look, crosseyed distorted face, wheazing derrrrr sound

the mass casualties, the mass maiming, the mass injuries, it continues, covid normal in action

long covid’s not even an appropriately representative term, but it does I suppose put the blame, or cause with a virus

good work, honest humans

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

whingers

wowsers

LOL

strained thought look, crosseyed distorted face, wheazing derrrrr sound

the mass casualties, the mass maiming, the mass injuries, it continues, covid normal in action

long covid’s not even an appropriately representative term, but it does I suppose put the blame, or cause with a virus

good work, honest humans

make that wheezing, it’s early, i’ve not finished my first coffee yet

>>The latest survey of donor blood looked at the proportion of people who had antibodies against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. It found at least two thirds of Australians have been infected.<<

REF

OK you stats people…if this is the case, how does this affect the killing ability stats for this virus? Hasn’t it been calculated against known (registered) cases or something? Which are a lot lower than this and even more dodgy now anyway with fewer testings and no requirement to report.

buffy said:

>>The latest survey of donor blood looked at the proportion of people who had antibodies against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. It found at least two thirds of Australians have been infected.<<

REF

OK you stats people…if this is the case, how does this affect the killing ability stats for this virus? Hasn’t it been calculated against known (registered) cases or something? Which are a lot lower than this and even more dodgy now anyway with fewer testings and no requirement to report.

it means we can blame anything else other than a little harmless virus, because it’s no longer the difference between people who die with the virus and who live with the virus

nihilism
absurdism
denihilism
adsurdism

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-11/sharp-spike-in-covid-cases-across-nsw-health-authorities-warn/101642554

LOLFLOL

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/11/10/ontario-hospital-wait-times-emergency-rooms/

ahaha but fuck we can’t even express how much laugh out loud there is in a sensible way on this screen

Repeat COVID infections could be deadly: study

https://nypost.com/2022/11/10/repeat-covid-infections-could-be-deadly-study/
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/repeat-covid-is-riskier-than-first-infection-study-finds-2022-11-10/

Repeat COVID is riskier than first infection, study finds

don’t count your broilers before they come home to roost

SCIENCE said:

ahaha but fuck we can’t even express how much laugh out loud there is in a sensible way on this screen

Repeat COVID infections could be deadly: study

https://nypost.com/2022/11/10/repeat-covid-infections-could-be-deadly-study/
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/repeat-covid-is-riskier-than-first-infection-study-finds-2022-11-10/

Repeat COVID is riskier than first infection, study finds

don’t count your broilers before they come home to roost

I thinks the ‘wisdom’ of covid being like a regular circulating cold or flu is well-dead, the problems started when some people inclined many people to consider covid ought be notionally accepted that way, which requires a force of indifference and stupid to make it so

there are problems off the bat when you let something like covid go because it’s considered too contagious to contain, the letting it go makes it uncontrollably contagious for one, and covid’s having a big party now courtesy the hosts

thee notion of hybrid immunity is in fact – applied – generating hybrid injury, in not a few, a substantial portion of the population as it goes

I include deaths in the mass injuries, to highlight the other mistake of not focusing on injuries, avoiding injury, the maiming

irony has caught SARACMODWAIDS-CoV 3 times

SCIENCE said:

LOLFLOL

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/11/10/ontario-hospital-wait-times-emergency-rooms/

Went shopping yesterday and don’t recall seeing anyone else wearing a mask.

PermeateFree said:

SCIENCE said:

LOLFLOL

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/11/10/ontario-hospital-wait-times-emergency-rooms/

Went shopping yesterday and don’t recall seeing anyone else wearing a mask.

I went shopping twice today. Saw a few but not very many. I also had to get my regular blood test done. The clinic were still making people wear masks.

I went shopping twice because I forgot to buy cling wrap the first time. So I had to make a second trip. Idiot.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-13/lachlan-cook-family-fighting-answers-death-school-trip-vietnam/101620600

“We were led to believe that there was 24-hour, seven-day-a-week medical assistance which at any time, if he needed it, then it would be called upon,” she said.

¿so?

The Economy Must Grow, airline industry needs to earn, who cares about having access to healthcare if you can spread lethal infectious disease and crash the health system instead

how’s the covid atrocity going, the great maiming

transition said:

how’s the covid atrocity going, the great maiming

Haven’t seen hide nor hair of it myself.

apparently Canadians might actually care about paediatric massacre

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1004122

I’s reading the wisdom from the ideological apparatus, perhaps advise about atrocity normal, the worldist’s mass maiming

I sees south australians have gone from successful dynamic covid zero to something resembling a pendulum

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/face-mask-summer-what-australias-new-covid-wave-means/5egfgdk7b

transition said:

I’s reading the wisdom from the ideological apparatus, perhaps advise about atrocity normal, the worldist’s mass maiming

I sees south australians have gone from successful dynamic covid zero to something resembling a pendulum

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/face-mask-summer-what-australias-new-covid-wave-means/5egfgdk7b

LOL nice

“They’ve really taken over in places like Singapore and France, and they’re starting to take over here,” Professor Esterman said. “We’ve taken off all our brakes to reduce transmission, we have nothing left,” Professor Esterman said. “That means that if any new variant comes along that we don’t have immunity against, it will just go straight through the population.”

how convenient that they forgot to mention Canadialand there

Professor Esterman said some experts believe that this new wave may not go on for as long or be as severe as the previous ones. “The reason why people are saying this is because we’ve seen similar waves starting in Singapore and in France, and they were fairly short-lived and not as high as BA.5,” he said.

convenient indeed

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

I’s reading the wisdom from the ideological apparatus, perhaps advise about atrocity normal, the worldist’s mass maiming

I sees south australians have gone from successful dynamic covid zero to something resembling a pendulum

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/face-mask-summer-what-australias-new-covid-wave-means/5egfgdk7b

LOL nice

“They’ve really taken over in places like Singapore and France, and they’re starting to take over here,” Professor Esterman said. “We’ve taken off all our brakes to reduce transmission, we have nothing left,” Professor Esterman said. “That means that if any new variant comes along that we don’t have immunity against, it will just go straight through the population.”

how convenient that they forgot to mention Canadialand there

Professor Esterman said some experts believe that this new wave may not go on for as long or be as severe as the previous ones. “The reason why people are saying this is because we’ve seen similar waves starting in Singapore and in France, and they were fairly short-lived and not as high as BA.5,” he said.

convenient indeed

I goes and reads various canada news, am continues reads
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/cheo-opens-second-icu-amid-unprecedented-crisis-1.6146368

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-14/nsw-crash-five-teens-in-critical-condition-hospital/101650924

oh dear it would be so easy to conduct a bioweaponry attack

well this one is easy

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-14/kim-beazley-calls-for-more-defence-spending/101651812

Mr Beazley said AUKUS was a chance to lift defence spending up to eight or nine per cent of the budget

He believes it would surprise people that the NDIS accounts for more of the federal budget than defence

too damn easy

just kill off your disabled freeloaders so you don’t have to spend on them

and when you wipe out your working population as well, your GDP will shrink nicely to mean that any fixed defence spend will be a greater proportion of it

¡ you beauty !

SCIENCE said:

well this one is easy

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-14/kim-beazley-calls-for-more-defence-spending/101651812

Mr Beazley said AUKUS was a chance to lift defence spending up to eight or nine per cent of the budget

He believes it would surprise people that the NDIS accounts for more of the federal budget than defence

too damn easy

just kill off your disabled freeloaders so you don’t have to spend on them

and when you wipe out your working population as well, your GDP will shrink nicely to mean that any fixed defence spend will be a greater proportion of it

¡ you beauty !

I was a bit disappointed with the comparison, the necessity for it, or absence of necessity, wondered what purpose it served, seemed like adverse attention for health spending, or (public) health investment

i’d ask, does the comparison serve some cultural convergence between US interests and australia, and i’d say so, been a theme for quite a while now, growing over the last couple year maybe

i’d expect some aspects of (previously public) health interests in australia are being opened up for private interests elsewhere, to invite investment, or at least expand markets, is the impression I get

it’s

genius

SCIENCE said:

it’s

genius

went readed about both those, joys of covid multiplied, the recursive inevitable, wondered for a moment how it came to be, then went back to normalizing it, didn’t want seem out of place pathologizing it, pathologizing the force of normal

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

I’s reading the wisdom from the ideological apparatus, perhaps advise about atrocity normal, the worldist’s mass maiming

I sees south australians have gone from successful dynamic covid zero to something resembling a pendulum

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/face-mask-summer-what-australias-new-covid-wave-means/5egfgdk7b

LOL nice

“They’ve really taken over in places like Singapore and France, and they’re starting to take over here,” Professor Esterman said. “We’ve taken off all our brakes to reduce transmission, we have nothing left,” Professor Esterman said. “That means that if any new variant comes along that we don’t have immunity against, it will just go straight through the population.”

how convenient that they forgot to mention Canadialand there

Professor Esterman said some experts believe that this new wave may not go on for as long or be as severe as the previous ones. “The reason why people are saying this is because we’ve seen similar waves starting in Singapore and in France, and they were fairly short-lived and not as high as BA.5,” he said.

convenient indeed

I goes and reads various canada news, am continues reads
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/cheo-opens-second-icu-amid-unprecedented-crisis-1.6146368

oh

oops

SCIENCE said:

oh

oops

known for a while now, black mold of India experience for example, quite a while back now

epistemological recursion

SCIENCE said:

epistemological recursion

we don’t know anything without whatever being demonstrated by a trial (or science and statistics) has been and is part of the core bullshit to spread plague, basically it invites many, expanding numbers of whatever to study

makes it so, makes it normal

it’s done proper when there is enough of it that the responsibility is so diminished that the desire to do anything about is lost, overwhelmed

same applies the mass maiming, which really might be considered a casualized atrocity, but when, after enough people are part of casualizing it, it’s normal, who’d want it any other way and brave the psychic conflict

people very much resolve conceptualization of a lot in fact, in a way, to that which reduces such conflict, don’t hold conflicting ideas for long, which includes a lot of thinking about thinking (which doesn’t happen), so the heuristics if you like of the bulb on the shoulders very much puts a shared ceiling on thinking about thinking, which is large part where ideology does its work, or miniature ideologies, appealing notions, mental shortcuts

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL nice

“They’ve really taken over in places like Singapore and France, and they’re starting to take over here,” Professor Esterman said. “We’ve taken off all our brakes to reduce transmission, we have nothing left,” Professor Esterman said. “That means that if any new variant comes along that we don’t have immunity against, it will just go straight through the population.”

how convenient that they forgot to mention Canadialand there

Professor Esterman said some experts believe that this new wave may not go on for as long or be as severe as the previous ones. “The reason why people are saying this is because we’ve seen similar waves starting in Singapore and in France, and they were fairly short-lived and not as high as BA.5,” he said.

convenient indeed

I goes and reads various canada news, am continues reads
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/cheo-opens-second-icu-amid-unprecedented-crisis-1.6146368

(Please change title in ‘Properties’)
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23304278/nov-14-health-system-update_finalmedia.pdf

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

I goes and reads various canada news, am continues reads
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/cheo-opens-second-icu-amid-unprecedented-crisis-1.6146368

(Please change title in ‘Properties’)
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23304278/nov-14-health-system-update_finalmedia.pdf

read that

once you let a virus like covid go (globally), dubiously deemed to be too contagious to contain, and use vaccines as a vote to let it go, there likely thereafter will be serious troubles, and serious troubles there are, so terrible most people will have little to no desire to hold the reality in their heads after committing to casualizing unlimited wild plague, the atrocity in progress

WHAT¿¡

¡ sacrilege !

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-claims-shane-warne-and-kimberley-kitchings-heart-attack-deaths-could-be-covidrelated/news-story/ec10230cbf7bc40a34a8acf5b53b82b3

¿ you’re not allowed to say that ?

The ABC’s health expert Dr Norman Swan has suggested Shane Warne and Senator Kimberley Kitching’s deaths could have been Covid-related. Both Warne and Ms Kitching died aged 52 after suffering heart attacks and neither of their deaths have officially been linked to Covid. Warne died on March 4 in Thailand, a few weeks after suffering mild Covid symptoms. Ms Kitching died on March 10 from a suspected heart attack. She was being treated for a thyroid condition that was contributing to heart problems. Despite the tenuous connection, Dr Swan told ABC News that it was “too much of a coincidence” that they died from heart attacks after Warne had Covid. It is not clear whether Ms Kitching had ever tested positive for Covid. “It’s too much of a coincidence that Shane Warne and the Labor Senator in Victoria died not long after a Covid infection, and people are reporting sudden death after Covid infection. It’s not benign,” he said.

did we say

SCIENCE said:

WHAT¿¡

¡ sacrilege !

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-claims-shane-warne-and-kimberley-kitchings-heart-attack-deaths-could-be-covidrelated/news-story/ec10230cbf7bc40a34a8acf5b53b82b3

¿ you’re not allowed to say that ?

The ABC’s health expert Dr Norman Swan has suggested Shane Warne and Senator Kimberley Kitching’s deaths could have been Covid-related. Both Warne and Ms Kitching died aged 52 after suffering heart attacks and neither of their deaths have officially been linked to Covid. Warne died on March 4 in Thailand, a few weeks after suffering mild Covid symptoms. Ms Kitching died on March 10 from a suspected heart attack. She was being treated for a thyroid condition that was contributing to heart problems. Despite the tenuous connection, Dr Swan told ABC News that it was “too much of a coincidence” that they died from heart attacks after Warne had Covid. It is not clear whether Ms Kitching had ever tested positive for Covid. “It’s too much of a coincidence that Shane Warne and the Labor Senator in Victoria died not long after a Covid infection, and people are reporting sudden death after Covid infection. It’s not benign,” he said.

did we say

there you go

¡ disinformation !

Dr Swan was forced to issue an apology after making the statements about the death of Warne and Senator Kitching on ABC News on Tuesday morning. “It’s too much of a coincidence that Shane Warne and the Labor Senator in Victoria died not long after a Covid infection, and people are reporting sudden death after Covid infection. It’s not benign,” he said However, Senator Kitching did not contract Covid before her death and had not tested positive previously. “I’ve personally apologised to Andrew her husband,” Dr Swan told news.com.au. “I’ve clearly made an error which I deeply regret. I do recall such reports and have checked with others who did too but that doesn’t excuse my having upset the family.”

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-apologises-after-claiming-senator-kimberley-kitchings-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/13b7146f8b81905f79765faeaafa8aa8

SCIENCE said:

WHAT¿¡

¡ sacrilege !

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-claims-shane-warne-and-kimberley-kitchings-heart-attack-deaths-could-be-covidrelated/news-story/ec10230cbf7bc40a34a8acf5b53b82b3

¿ you’re not allowed to say that ?

The ABC’s health expert Dr Norman Swan has suggested Shane Warne and Senator Kimberley Kitching’s deaths could have been Covid-related. Both Warne and Ms Kitching died aged 52 after suffering heart attacks and neither of their deaths have officially been linked to Covid. Warne died on March 4 in Thailand, a few weeks after suffering mild Covid symptoms. Ms Kitching died on March 10 from a suspected heart attack. She was being treated for a thyroid condition that was contributing to heart problems. Despite the tenuous connection, Dr Swan told ABC News that it was “too much of a coincidence” that they died from heart attacks after Warne had Covid. It is not clear whether Ms Kitching had ever tested positive for Covid. “It’s too much of a coincidence that Shane Warne and the Labor Senator in Victoria died not long after a Covid infection, and people are reporting sudden death after Covid infection. It’s not benign,” he said.

did we say

AND BOTH HAD BEEN VACCINATED FOR COVID

it was the lockdowns

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

WHAT¿¡

¡ sacrilege !

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-claims-shane-warne-and-kimberley-kitchings-heart-attack-deaths-could-be-covidrelated/news-story/ec10230cbf7bc40a34a8acf5b53b82b3

¿ you’re not allowed to say that ?

The ABC’s health expert Dr Norman Swan has suggested Shane Warne and Senator Kimberley Kitching’s deaths could have been Covid-related. Both Warne and Ms Kitching died aged 52 after suffering heart attacks and neither of their deaths have officially been linked to Covid. Warne died on March 4 in Thailand, a few weeks after suffering mild Covid symptoms. Ms Kitching died on March 10 from a suspected heart attack. She was being treated for a thyroid condition that was contributing to heart problems. Despite the tenuous connection, Dr Swan told ABC News that it was “too much of a coincidence” that they died from heart attacks after Warne had Covid. It is not clear whether Ms Kitching had ever tested positive for Covid. “It’s too much of a coincidence that Shane Warne and the Labor Senator in Victoria died not long after a Covid infection, and people are reporting sudden death after Covid infection. It’s not benign,” he said.

did we say

there you go

¡ disinformation !

Dr Swan was forced to issue an apology after making the statements about the death of Warne and Senator Kitching on ABC News on Tuesday morning. “It’s too much of a coincidence that Shane Warne and the Labor Senator in Victoria died not long after a Covid infection, and people are reporting sudden death after Covid infection. It’s not benign,” he said However, Senator Kitching did not contract Covid before her death and had not tested positive previously. “I’ve personally apologised to Andrew her husband,” Dr Swan told news.com.au. “I’ve clearly made an error which I deeply regret. I do recall such reports and have checked with others who did too but that doesn’t excuse my having upset the family.”

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-apologises-after-claiming-senator-kimberley-kitchings-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/13b7146f8b81905f79765faeaafa8aa8

I thinkies some likes to put the norman is his place, he’s not religious about unlimited wild covid, hybrid immunity that way, and occasionally I guess his thoughts wanders outside the containment provided by the broadcaster, fortunately they has friends that helps with that, friends in the contagion business, media I mean, providing all with entertainments so reality doesn’t ruin your day too much

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

WHAT¿¡

¡ sacrilege !

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-claims-shane-warne-and-kimberley-kitchings-heart-attack-deaths-could-be-covidrelated/news-story/ec10230cbf7bc40a34a8acf5b53b82b3

¿ you’re not allowed to say that ?

The ABC’s health expert Dr Norman Swan has suggested Shane Warne and Senator Kimberley Kitching’s deaths could have been Covid-related. Both Warne and Ms Kitching died aged 52 after suffering heart attacks and neither of their deaths have officially been linked to Covid. Warne died on March 4 in Thailand, a few weeks after suffering mild Covid symptoms. Ms Kitching died on March 10 from a suspected heart attack. She was being treated for a thyroid condition that was contributing to heart problems. Despite the tenuous connection, Dr Swan told ABC News that it was “too much of a coincidence” that they died from heart attacks after Warne had Covid. It is not clear whether Ms Kitching had ever tested positive for Covid. “It’s too much of a coincidence that Shane Warne and the Labor Senator in Victoria died not long after a Covid infection, and people are reporting sudden death after Covid infection. It’s not benign,” he said.

did we say

there you go

¡ disinformation !

Dr Swan was forced to issue an apology after making the statements about the death of Warne and Senator Kitching on ABC News on Tuesday morning. “It’s too much of a coincidence that Shane Warne and the Labor Senator in Victoria died not long after a Covid infection, and people are reporting sudden death after Covid infection. It’s not benign,” he said However, Senator Kitching did not contract Covid before her death and had not tested positive previously. “I’ve personally apologised to Andrew her husband,” Dr Swan told news.com.au. “I’ve clearly made an error which I deeply regret. I do recall such reports and have checked with others who did too but that doesn’t excuse my having upset the family.”

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-apologises-after-claiming-senator-kimberley-kitchings-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/13b7146f8b81905f79765faeaafa8aa8

I thinkies some likes to put the norman is his place, he’s not religious about unlimited wild covid, hybrid immunity that way, and occasionally I guess his thoughts wanders outside the containment provided by the broadcaster, fortunately they has friends that helps with that, friends in the contagion business, media I mean, providing all with entertainments so reality doesn’t ruin your day too much

It’s a nice trick, one COVID-19 death by heart attack is false, therefore all such deaths are falsy¡

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

there you go

¡ disinformation !

Dr Swan was forced to issue an apology after making the statements about the death of Warne and Senator Kitching on ABC News on Tuesday morning. “It’s too much of a coincidence that Shane Warne and the Labor Senator in Victoria died not long after a Covid infection, and people are reporting sudden death after Covid infection. It’s not benign,” he said However, Senator Kitching did not contract Covid before her death and had not tested positive previously. “I’ve personally apologised to Andrew her husband,” Dr Swan told news.com.au. “I’ve clearly made an error which I deeply regret. I do recall such reports and have checked with others who did too but that doesn’t excuse my having upset the family.”

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-apologises-after-claiming-senator-kimberley-kitchings-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/13b7146f8b81905f79765faeaafa8aa8

I thinkies some likes to put the norman is his place, he’s not religious about unlimited wild covid, hybrid immunity that way, and occasionally I guess his thoughts wanders outside the containment provided by the broadcaster, fortunately they has friends that helps with that, friends in the contagion business, media I mean, providing all with entertainments so reality doesn’t ruin your day too much

It’s a nice trick, one COVID-19 death by heart attack is false, therefore all such deaths are falsy¡

but the ideological apparatus wins anyways, they got their subjects focused on deaths rather than injury, so the we might all sublimate and unconsciously dissemble regard the great maiming, the health atrocity, the casualized atrocity

goodoh, they loves evolution, giving birth to new life

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

there you go

¡ disinformation !

Dr Swan was forced to issue an apology after making the statements about the death of Warne and Senator Kitching on ABC News on Tuesday morning. “It’s too much of a coincidence that Shane Warne and the Labor Senator in Victoria died not long after a Covid infection, and people are reporting sudden death after Covid infection. It’s not benign,” he said However, Senator Kitching did not contract Covid before her death and had not tested positive previously. “I’ve personally apologised to Andrew her husband,” Dr Swan told news.com.au. “I’ve clearly made an error which I deeply regret. I do recall such reports and have checked with others who did too but that doesn’t excuse my having upset the family.”

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-apologises-after-claiming-senator-kimberley-kitchings-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/13b7146f8b81905f79765faeaafa8aa8

I thinkies some likes to put the norman is his place, he’s not religious about unlimited wild covid, hybrid immunity that way, and occasionally I guess his thoughts wanders outside the containment provided by the broadcaster, fortunately they has friends that helps with that, friends in the contagion business, media I mean, providing all with entertainments so reality doesn’t ruin your day too much

It’s a nice trick, one COVID-19 death by heart attack is false, therefore all such deaths are falsy¡

Or that 53 year old men who smoke quite often drop dead from heart attacks.

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

I thinkies some likes to put the norman is his place, he’s not religious about unlimited wild covid, hybrid immunity that way, and occasionally I guess his thoughts wanders outside the containment provided by the broadcaster, fortunately they has friends that helps with that, friends in the contagion business, media I mean, providing all with entertainments so reality doesn’t ruin your day too much

It’s a nice trick, one COVID-19 death by heart attack is false, therefore all such deaths are falsy¡

Or that 53 year old men who smoke quite often drop dead from heart attacks.

This. I stopped listening to Norman Swan quite some time ago. I used to be quite fond of his take on medical things. But he tends to stray a bit these days.

buffy said:

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

It’s a nice trick, one COVID-19 death by heart attack is false, therefore all such deaths are falsy¡

Or that 53 year old men who smoke quite often drop dead from heart attacks.

This. I stopped listening to Norman Swan quite some time ago. I used to be quite fond of his take on medical things. But he tends to stray a bit these days.

but consider the damage that might be done in getting norman around to accepting (advocating for) mass plague with the diminished responsibility that requires

getting norman around to converging with the preferred normalization perspective, just in the broadcaster bubble alone, for example

and in that time the broadcaster format has more converged (of print, internet for example) to better fit in mixed news source feeds

I think some damage was done, has been done

just my opinion above is all, a perspective

transition said:

buffy said:

sibeen said:

Or that 53 year old men who smoke quite often drop dead from heart attacks.

This. I stopped listening to Norman Swan quite some time ago. I used to be quite fond of his take on medical things. But he tends to stray a bit these days.

but consider the damage that might be done in getting norman around to accepting (advocating for) mass plague with the diminished responsibility that requires

getting norman around to converging with the preferred normalization perspective, just in the broadcaster bubble alone, for example

and in that time the broadcaster format has more converged (of print, internet for example) to better fit in mixed news source feeds

I think some damage was done, has been done

just my opinion above is all, a perspective

tricks to discredit the conveyor of the falsy information are good too

been reading the good work of the ideological apparatus, I wondered for a moment about the mass maiming in progress, on repeat, whether everyone was suitably immune yet

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/south-australias-new-covid-plan-to-be-announced-as-fourth-wave-sparks-case-increase/news-story/30a7ace63e56249004822c88a62af90f

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-apologises-after-claiming-senator-kimberley-kitchings-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/13b7146f8b81905f79765faeaafa8aa8

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/shane-warnes-manager-fumes-at-dr-norman-swan-for-claiming-cricket-stars-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/a02d257614d93741533cf82407b87e14

transition said:

been reading the good work of the ideological apparatus, I wondered for a moment about the mass maiming in progress, on repeat, whether everyone was suitably immune yet

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/south-australias-new-covid-plan-to-be-announced-as-fourth-wave-sparks-case-increase/news-story/30a7ace63e56249004822c88a62af90f

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-apologises-after-claiming-senator-kimberley-kitchings-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/13b7146f8b81905f79765faeaafa8aa8

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/shane-warnes-manager-fumes-at-dr-norman-swan-for-claiming-cricket-stars-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/a02d257614d93741533cf82407b87e14

convenient isn’t it, if someone is on that side then the moment they get a single fact wrong they’re fucked, but someone on the other side, they’re fact free, everything they say could be disinformation and it’s all good

oh nice

Heated argument caught on camera between Chinese President Xi Jinping & Canadian PM Justin Trudeau at the #G20Summit today. Xi expresses displeasure over details of talks being leaked in media, Canadian PM responds that he believes in free and fair talks.

can that genius come and explain to our national cabinet jokers what free and fair means for their secret bullshit artistry

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

been reading the good work of the ideological apparatus, I wondered for a moment about the mass maiming in progress, on repeat, whether everyone was suitably immune yet

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/south-australias-new-covid-plan-to-be-announced-as-fourth-wave-sparks-case-increase/news-story/30a7ace63e56249004822c88a62af90f

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-apologises-after-claiming-senator-kimberley-kitchings-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/13b7146f8b81905f79765faeaafa8aa8

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/shane-warnes-manager-fumes-at-dr-norman-swan-for-claiming-cricket-stars-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/a02d257614d93741533cf82407b87e14

convenient isn’t it, if someone is on that side then the moment they get a single fact wrong they’re fucked, but someone on the other side, they’re fact free, everything they say could be disinformation and it’s all good

Seems to work like that doesn’t it, could be flustered and or grilled over what you say and make a mistake and they run with it.

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

been reading the good work of the ideological apparatus, I wondered for a moment about the mass maiming in progress, on repeat, whether everyone was suitably immune yet

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/south-australias-new-covid-plan-to-be-announced-as-fourth-wave-sparks-case-increase/news-story/30a7ace63e56249004822c88a62af90f

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-apologises-after-claiming-senator-kimberley-kitchings-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/13b7146f8b81905f79765faeaafa8aa8

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/shane-warnes-manager-fumes-at-dr-norman-swan-for-claiming-cricket-stars-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/a02d257614d93741533cf82407b87e14

convenient isn’t it, if someone is on that side then the moment they get a single fact wrong they’re fucked, but someone on the other side, they’re fact free, everything they say could be disinformation and it’s all good

Seems to work like that doesn’t it, could be flustered and or grilled over what you say and make a mistake and they run with it.

obviously the solution is to be shameless about the incorrectitude nonirregardless of being on any particular side, just say whatever the fuck one wants in support of one’s position, who cares about the haters and doubters and deniers

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

been reading the good work of the ideological apparatus, I wondered for a moment about the mass maiming in progress, on repeat, whether everyone was suitably immune yet

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/south-australias-new-covid-plan-to-be-announced-as-fourth-wave-sparks-case-increase/news-story/30a7ace63e56249004822c88a62af90f

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/abc-health-expert-norman-swan-apologises-after-claiming-senator-kimberley-kitchings-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/13b7146f8b81905f79765faeaafa8aa8

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/shane-warnes-manager-fumes-at-dr-norman-swan-for-claiming-cricket-stars-death-was-linked-to-covid/news-story/a02d257614d93741533cf82407b87e14

convenient isn’t it, if someone is on that side then the moment they get a single fact wrong they’re fucked, but someone on the other side, they’re fact free, everything they say could be disinformation and it’s all good

doesn’t matter much, all makes for a nice distraction for the covid mess, all the injury unlimited wild plague is causing, it’s a fucken atrocity promoted by or through the ideological apparatus

it’s so bad a person can now say individual responsibility and it means no responsibility, such is the (appeal of) doublespeak and doublethink

fun

SCIENCE said:

fun

So the presidential office is hereditary?

furious said:

SCIENCE said:

fun

So the presidential office is hereditary?

don’t know, we’ve never been leader of Uganda or its neighbours

Good News ¡ It’s impossible to predict a local pandemic trajectory based on other countries, but only if those other countries did badly, because if they got away without too much damage then we can use those as a basis for prediction (but not strategy) ¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-18/australia-christmas-covid-wave-hard-to-predict-experts-say/101665432

SCIENCE said:

Good News ¡ It’s impossible to predict a local pandemic trajectory based on other countries, but only if those other countries did badly, because if they got away without too much damage then we can use those as a basis for prediction (but not strategy) ¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-18/australia-christmas-covid-wave-hard-to-predict-experts-say/101665432

however it turns out, be sure you’re being primed for more of the same, normalizing the maiming, with ongoing diminished responsibility, the blunted caring, the gift, the liberty, your friend covid, the common cold endlessly diversifying into a thousand strains, eventually you may be able to catch more than one at a time and help with the recombination

sure there is

can’t be doing what dirty shithole CHINA is doing

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

Good News ¡ It’s impossible to predict a local pandemic trajectory based on other countries, but only if those other countries did badly, because if they got away without too much damage then we can use those as a basis for prediction (but not strategy) ¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-18/australia-christmas-covid-wave-hard-to-predict-experts-say/101665432

however it turns out, be sure you’re being primed for more of the same, normalizing the maiming, with ongoing diminished responsibility, the blunted caring, the gift, the liberty, your friend covid, the common cold endlessly diversifying into a thousand strains, eventually you may be able to catch more than one at a time and help with the recombination

oh what was that oh

we said uh ah haha aha

Good News ¡

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

Good News ¡ It’s impossible to predict a local pandemic trajectory based on other countries, but only if those other countries did badly, because if they got away without too much damage then we can use those as a basis for prediction (but not strategy) ¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-18/australia-christmas-covid-wave-hard-to-predict-experts-say/101665432

however it turns out, be sure you’re being primed for more of the same, normalizing the maiming, with ongoing diminished responsibility, the blunted caring, the gift, the liberty, your friend covid, the common cold endlessly diversifying into a thousand strains, eventually you may be able to catch more than one at a time and help with the recombination

oh what was that oh

we said uh ah haha aha

Good News ¡

dear God that last is like fucken crosseyed derrr

few more hundreds thousands get a good maiming, and there’s not one cunt to make it all work, easy covid, the easy maiming, the firing squad of covid love

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

however it turns out, be sure you’re being primed for more of the same, normalizing the maiming, with ongoing diminished responsibility, the blunted caring, the gift, the liberty, your friend covid, the common cold endlessly diversifying into a thousand strains, eventually you may be able to catch more than one at a time and help with the recombination

oh what was that oh

we said uh ah haha aha

Good News ¡

dear God that last is like fucken crosseyed derrr

few more hundreds thousands get a good maiming, and there’s not one cunt to make it all work, easy covid, the easy maiming, the firing squad of covid love

The unwashed….they need deep cleaning.

SCIENCE said:

I doubt she’s got enough money left over for the bribes. I doubt she’ll be allowed to do her 11 years in home detention either.

¡ it’s fun and games !

SCIENCE said:

¡ it’s fun and games !

not a few plaguemongers out there, they recruits for their good work, maim a few hundreds of millions, maybe heading for half a billion at least next year, worldists need world problems, goodly numbers makes them feel more significant, scales commensurate with their big picture views, so what’s a little casual plague between friends, and there be all sorts of science to do on it, to help you be less poisoned by plague, less ambiguously allergic, medicines, medicines to buy, you buy medicine, buying is medicine

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

I doubt she’s got enough money left over for the bribes. I doubt she’ll be allowed to do her 11 years in home detention either.

“Ms. Holmes will be assigned to a prison by the Federal Bureau of Prisons based on factors such as location, space, her lack of criminal history and the nonviolent nature of her crime. The minimum security prison nearest to Ms. Holmes’s residence in Woodside, Calif., is likely the Federal Correctional Institution in Dublin.”

China’s steampunk covid response
How to read the country’s confusing pandemic-policy changes

Nov 17th 2022

In the science-fiction genre known as steampunk, impressive feats of creativity are applied to an odd task: imagining a futuristic world that uses only Victorian technology. There are no silicon chips or lithium batteries in steampunk worlds. Instead, heroes in frock-coats pilot steam-powered flying machines made of canvas, wood and hissing copper pipes, or consult clockwork computers of exquisite complexity. To understand China’s “zero-covid” policy, it is surprisingly helpful to think of it as a steampunk pandemic response.

The policy was born in a moment of chaos and danger for Communist Party leaders: the covid outbreak in Wuhan in early 2020. Despite the censors’ best efforts, all of China saw online videos of gravely ill patients in hospital corridors and body bags in car parks. Horrified leaders knew that many places in their country had weaker hospitals than Wuhan, a city of 14m. Swiftly, officials locked China down and closed its borders. Pop-up isolation hospitals rose across the country. A growing array of smartphone apps were rolled out to trace the public’s movements and covid status in real time. Restrictions were enforced by millions of pandemic guards. High and low technologies were combined to build something remarkable: a modern-day version of a 19th-century quarantine system, of the sort that Victorian doctors might have used to tackle a tuberculosis outbreak in an age before antibiotics.

From the start, China’s zero-covid response followed a logic of its own. In places like America or Europe, governments struggled to “flatten the curve” of infections. Their aim was to slow the growth of each fresh covid wave to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed. China’s ambition was to have no cases, and no curve.

In the first phase of the zero-covid policy, officials used travel curbs, mass testing and quarantines to keep the virus out. Given China’s large population and poor health-care system, this was a rational if costly policy and prevented many deaths. It was popular, too, for life was relatively normal for many inside this China-size bubble. Propaganda chiefs highlighted the contrast with soaring casualty counts in America, Britain and other rich countries.

Early on Australia, New Zealand and Singapore also followed covid-elimination policies, but with a difference. Those countries used their zero-covid policies to buy time until they were ready to live with the virus, with the help of effective vaccines and potent new antiviral drugs. China did not use its policy to buy time.

Instead, once the virus breached China’s defences and many areas saw outbreaks, the country switched to a second phase, dubbed “dynamic zero-covid”. China built nationwide systems to find each infected person and isolate them within hours, before tracing and isolating hundreds or even thousands of their close contacts. The “dynamic” bit nods to the impossibility of avoiding cases altogether. The ambition, rather, is to crush waves rapidly.

Alas, more contagious variants have tested this approach to breaking point. Facing the sack for outbreaks on their watch, officials have locked down some regions for months. Mass pcr tests have been imposed on cities with millions of residents, as often as every day. The economic and human costs are crippling. A broker, Soochow Securities, has estimated China’s bill for covid testing alone at 1.7trn yuan ($240bn) this year, or around 1.5% of gdp. That number, which one expert calls an underestimate, equates to nearly half of all China’s public spending on education in 2020.

On November 11th the government announced 20 changes to make zero-covid policies more precise and less costly, and to ease international travel a bit. Local officials were warned not to impose excessive, indiscriminate policies. In the next days, several cities seemed to experiment with reduced mass testing and laxer controls on movement. Some propaganda messaging started to downplay covid’s seriousness. That sparked speculation, at home and abroad, that China is about to ditch the zero-covid policy, despite denials in the People’s Daily and other official news outlets.

Three main explanations for these changes suggest themselves. The first, call it Plan a, is that Chinese leaders are trying to make the zero-covid policy more sustainable. Plan b is that an organised exit from the policy is quietly under way, despite those official denials. Plan c is no plan at all; it posits that China has lost control and is crashing towards opening.

Plan b is least likely. An orderly exit requires long preparations. Instead China has squandered 2022. All-out vaccination campaigns should have started months ago, notably for older people. A course of three locally made shots offers reasonable protection against covid; only 68% of over-60s have had the full three. Giving everyone a fourth booster would allow for a much safer exit, but work on that has barely begun. Authorities should have stockpiled antiviral drugs and published protocols for handling an inevitable surge in infections, clarifying who should be admitted to hospital or receive antiviral treatments. As for giving China’s people the most effective, foreign mrna shots, Mr Xi showed little interest when this was suggested by Germany’s chancellor, Olaf Scholz, recently. Instead, China’s leader hinted at approving foreign shots for German expatriates. Finally, winter (when people huddle indoors and viruses multiply) would be a daft time to start opening.

Still clanking away
Current outbreaks are alarming, but China has managed higher case numbers before, suggesting that Plan c is not yet at hand. To spot a big shift in approach, watch what happens to mass testing, suggests Ben Cowling of the University of Hong Kong, for that is one of two pillars of the zero-covid policy, along with quarantining positive cases. That leaves Plan a. Party bosses appear to be tweaking their intricate zero-covid machine to keep it going, though new scientific tools render it obsolete and it may not survive coming virus waves. This would be an act of self-harm. Steampunk makes for pretty stories, but bad public policy.

https://www.economist.com/china/2022/11/17/chinas-steampunk-covid-response?

Witty Rejoinder said:

China’s steampunk covid response
How to read the country’s confusing pandemic-policy changes

Nov 17th 2022
/…cut by me master transition…/

https://www.economist.com/china/2022/11/17/chinas-steampunk-covid-response?

“Early on Australia, New Zealand and Singapore also followed covid-elimination policies, but with a difference. Those countries used their zero-covid policies to buy time until they were ready to live with the virus, with the help of effective vaccines and potent new antiviral drugs. China did not use its policy to buy time…”

that’s a preferred explanation of the writer maybe, a way of conceptualizing it, a way of framing it

transition said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

China’s steampunk covid response
How to read the country’s confusing pandemic-policy changes

Nov 17th 2022
/…cut by me master transition…/

https://www.economist.com/china/2022/11/17/chinas-steampunk-covid-response??

“Early on Australia, New Zealand and Singapore also followed covid-elimination policies, but with a difference. Those countries used their zero-covid policies to buy time until they were ready to live with the virus, with the help of effective vaccines and potent new antiviral drugs. China did not use its policy to buy time…”

that’s a preferred explanation of the writer maybe, a way of conceptualizing it, a way of framing it

they conveniently pretend that transmission-blocking air filters don’t block transmission

Aaaaand the boss lady has also tested +

dv said:

Aaaaand the boss lady has also tested +

ah.

chicken soup all round.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Aaaaand the boss lady has also tested +

ah.

chicken soup all round.

Hope it passes soon.

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

China’s steampunk covid response
How to read the country’s confusing pandemic-policy changes

Nov 17th 2022
/…cut by me master transition…/

https://www.economist.com/china/2022/11/17/chinas-steampunk-covid-response??

“Early on Australia, New Zealand and Singapore also followed covid-elimination policies, but with a difference. Those countries used their zero-covid policies to buy time until they were ready to live with the virus, with the help of effective vaccines and potent new antiviral drugs. China did not use its policy to buy time…”

that’s a preferred explanation of the writer maybe, a way of conceptualizing it, a way of framing it

they conveniently pretend that transmission-blocking air filters don’t block transmission

well, the paragraph sort of looks true on a quick read if the reader wanted it to be true, and as things go when people apply their concepts they want the concepts applied to be true, cause for all sorts of bullshit, but largely that’s what a lot functions on, bullshit

and just readed some news, propaganda machine in full swing, casual plaguemongers doing their thing, helping fuck a few more hundred thousand people in australia alone, the casual atrocity

Vaccine Breakthrough Could Finally Bring COVID to Its Knees

The key to the NIH’s potential vaccine design is a part of the virus called the “spine helix.” It’s a coil-shaped structure inside the spike protein, the part of the virus that helps it grab onto and infect our cells.

Lots of current vaccines target the spike protein. But none of them specifically target the spine helix. And yet, there are good reasons to focus on that part of the pathogen. Whereas many regions of the spike protein tend to change a lot as the virus mutates, the spine helix doesn’t.

more…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11448765/Nick-Coatsworth-slams-Norman-Swan-saying-ABCs-trusted-doctor-doesnt-patients.html

the covidmongers assisting the mass maiming won’t be disinclined from more of the same, seems to me

My nephew Chrissy and his partner visited my sister yesterday. They tested positive today.

sarahs mum said:

My nephew Chrissy and his partner visited my sister yesterday. They tested positive today.

Vaccinated? Reporting it?

kii said:

sarahs mum said:

My nephew Chrissy and his partner visited my sister yesterday. They tested positive today.

Vaccinated? Reporting it?

chrissy and partner both work in care. i reckon they are the responsible types.

sarahs mum said:

My nephew Chrissy and his partner visited my sister yesterday. They tested positive today.

Did your sis have a precautionary test?

sarahs mum said:

kii said:

sarahs mum said:

My nephew Chrissy and his partner visited my sister yesterday. They tested positive today.

Vaccinated? Reporting it?

chrissy and partner both work in care. i reckon they are the responsible types.

One would hope so.

sarahs mum said:

kii said:

sarahs mum said:

My nephew Chrissy and his partner visited my sister yesterday. They tested positive today.

Vaccinated? Reporting it?

chrissy and partner both work in care. i reckon they are the responsible types.

I do wonder how they were feeling yesterday when they visited their aging parents…

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

My nephew Chrissy and his partner visited my sister yesterday. They tested positive today.

Did your sis have a precautionary test?

She’s only just got the news..

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronavirus/2022/11/21/five-new-variants-in-australias-latest-covid-19-wave/

apparently the new science is hope, but chuck in reference to an epidemiologist or quote one or two gets you back to giving it authority

same bullshit different day, zombification by perpetual bullshit

anyway the mass maiming will continue, all those injuries, the covid love

and well done China, doing a good job re covid

Respective RATs reported.

We were going to do a drive-through PCR test but apparently those all shut down on 1 Oct? So we would need to get referrals from a GP to a lab.

Eh, I’m sure the chance that all three of our tests were false pozzes is negligible.

dv said:

Respective RATs reported.

We were going to do a drive-through PCR test but apparently those all shut down on 1 Oct? So we would need to get referrals from a GP to a lab.

Eh, I’m sure the chance that all three of our tests were false pozzes is negligible.

Don’t hospitals still do them walk in

dv said:

Respective RATs reported.

We were going to do a drive-through PCR test but apparently those all shut down on 1 Oct? So we would need to get referrals from a GP to a lab.

Eh, I’m sure the chance that all three of our tests were false pozzes is negligible.

take another two tests each

Breaking news…….Three clases sent home from school today to isolate for the next 5 days as the three kids that had covid last week turns into more than three this week. Stay tuned as after the break we discover that three out of five people are not the other two.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-21/11-children-taken-to-hospital-after-sydney-primary-school-blast/101679212

transition said:

and well done China, doing a good job re covid

we thought they were gearing up the ripper to let

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

and well done China, doing a good job re covid

we thought they were gearing up the ripper to let

A second person I know (friend of a friend) has just died of COVID.

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

and well done China, doing a good job re covid

we thought they were gearing up the ripper to let

Santa’s bringing covid variant soup this year, a special covid christmas, yeah

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-63700629

Java quake kills 162 and injures hundreds

The country has a history of devastating earthquakes and tsunamis, with more than 2,000 killed in a 2018 Sulawesi quake.

SCIENCE said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-63700629

Java quake kills 162 and injures hundreds

The country has a history of devastating earthquakes and tsunamis, with more than 2,000 killed in a 2018 Sulawesi quake.

It wasn’t a big mag quake, 5.6 or some such but quite shallow apparently.

given the biographical

UCLA, PCoHS, acupuncture/neuroscience, aesthetics, public health, assisted psychedelic therapies, chronic pain 🦅Keeper of the fire, Potawatomi (CPN)

we seriously allege that this is a strawmanning grifter but nevertheless it raises a good point

there really is an intervention that is likely to help, which would block transmission of all airborne coronaviruses, and also a bunch of other airborne pathogens to boot

imagine

Peak Warming Man said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-63700629

Java quake kills 162 and injures hundreds

The country has a history of devastating earthquakes and tsunamis, with more than 2,000 killed in a 2018 Sulawesi quake.

It wasn’t a big mag quake, 5.6 or some such but quite shallow apparently.

which wave

bunch of communists

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2022/11/21/COVID-Crisis-For-Children/

Good News ¡ Eli Lilly Finds Way To Recoup Massive Losses Within 20 Years ¡

ahahahahahaha

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/vaccine-breakthrough-could-finally-bring-034316828.html

Lots of current vaccines target the spike protein. But none of them specifically target the spine helix. And yet, there are good reasons to focus on that part of the pathogen. Whereas many regions of the spike protein tend to change a lot as the virus mutates, the spine helix doesn’t.

did someone say “selection pressure” or do we just have tinnitus from viral disaster

communist

At Least Schools Stayed Open ¡

https://www.denver7.com/news/national/officials-toddler-starved-to-death-after-his-father-died-of-heart-attack-in-new-york-apartment

SCIENCE said:

ahahahahahaha

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/vaccine-breakthrough-could-finally-bring-034316828.html

Lots of current vaccines target the spike protein. But none of them specifically target the spine helix. And yet, there are good reasons to focus on that part of the pathogen. Whereas many regions of the spike protein tend to change a lot as the virus mutates, the spine helix doesn’t.

did someone say “selection pressure” or do we just have tinnitus from viral disaster

I have tinnitus but is caused by swimming in human shit.

SCIENCE said:

communist

Attention disorders are terrible things.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

ahahahahahaha

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/vaccine-breakthrough-could-finally-bring-034316828.html

Lots of current vaccines target the spike protein. But none of them specifically target the spine helix. And yet, there are good reasons to focus on that part of the pathogen. Whereas many regions of the spike protein tend to change a lot as the virus mutates, the spine helix doesn’t.

did someone say “selection pressure” or do we just have tinnitus from viral disaster

I have tinnitus but is caused by swimming in human shit.

I have it from working in a very noisy factory.

Oh Look 0.97 Of Australians Lied Laugh Out Loud

SCIENCE said:

Oh Look 0.97 Of Australians Lied Laugh Out Loud

Is it normal human behaviour to adapt to horrible situations and what was once unacceptable becomes OK
Within reason of course I mean being in a war zone with death and destruction all around you might be hard to accept but even then people try to live their lives

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Oh Look 0.97 Of Australians Lied Laugh Out Loud

Is it normal human behaviour to adapt to horrible situations and what was once unacceptable becomes OK
Within reason of course I mean being in a war zone with death and destruction all around you might be hard to accept but even then people try to live their lives

And sometimes you have to shoot the prisoners.

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Oh Look 0.97 Of Australians Lied Laugh Out Loud

Is it normal human behaviour to adapt to horrible situations and what was once unacceptable becomes OK
Within reason of course I mean being in a war zone with death and destruction all around you might be hard to accept but even then people try to live their lives

consider the poll was an initiation, into normalizing it, that the very question of how many casualties would you accept (insert any range) does exactly that, the subjects internalize it then invite, make it so

anyway the health blinding is well underway, has been for a long time, in the service of those that worship the pharmacrats, and the money people, get those working together, people are marching to something be sure of that

tie the medicine into money, you got a new type of state, state apparatus, money becomes the medicine, the spending and making of it, becomes your religion, ideology

transition said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Oh Look 0.97 Of Australians Lied Laugh Out Loud

Is it normal human behaviour to adapt to horrible situations and what was once unacceptable becomes OK
Within reason of course I mean being in a war zone with death and destruction all around you might be hard to accept but even then people try to live their lives

consider the poll was an initiation, into normalizing it, that the very question of how many casualties would you accept (insert any range) does exactly that, the subjects internalize it then invite, make it so

anyway the health blinding is well underway, has been for a long time, in the service of those that worship the pharmacrats, and the money people, get those working together, people are marching to something be sure of that

tie the medicine into money, you got a new type of state, state apparatus, money becomes the medicine, the spending and making of it, becomes your religion, ideology

yeah bit like those German troops pumped with speed, amphetamines, some things really haven’t changed, got an analogous inflation problem also, but I may be pushing the comparison some there, or am I, perhaps we’re all being pumped to keep the bullshit working

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Peak Warming Man said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-63700629

Java quake kills 162 and injures hundreds

The country has a history of devastating earthquakes and tsunamis, with more than 2,000 killed in a 2018 Sulawesi quake.

It wasn’t a big mag quake, 5.6 or some such but quite shallow apparently.

which wave

At Least Schools Stayed Open ¡

https://www.denver7.com/news/national/officials-toddler-starved-to-death-after-his-father-died-of-heart-attack-in-new-york-apartment

At Least Schools Stayed Open ¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-21/deadly-earthquake-hits-indonesia/101681160

wait

Most of those killed were public school students who had finished their classes for the day and were taking extra lessons at Islamic schools when they collapsed, the governor said.

oh fuck

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Results, culling ferals

They look so attractive, and my heart goes out to them, but they must be removed for the sake of the environment. Doing these things is what makes being an environmentalist so hard, which means those who scornfully sneer at greenies the real weaklings.

on the other hand, to massacre juvenile Homo sapiens for the sake of The Economy Must Grow, fuck those virus promoters must be goddamn heroes

or arms manufacturers and … oh all right we’ll have a nap

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/beijing-sees-record-covid-cases-as-china-outbreak-spirals/ar-AA14otYm?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=510ffbca1ae540a6ba5268027e4ebb9a

They are wasting their time, just let it go.

Peak Warming Man said:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/beijing-sees-record-covid-cases-as-china-outbreak-spirals/ar-AA14otYm?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=510ffbca1ae540a6ba5268027e4ebb9a

They are wasting their time, just let it go.

job certainly get any easier when other countries did that, helped the evolution of contagiousness, and made it more prolific everywhere elsewhere

yeah whatever, be sure the plaguemongers be opening a new tube of slippery with that news, sentiment-like evident in what I read

keep up the good work, UK’s done well from wild unlimited plague, gave or giving it the economic boost it needed

transition said:

Peak Warming Man said:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/beijing-sees-record-covid-cases-as-china-outbreak-spirals/ar-AA14otYm?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=510ffbca1ae540a6ba5268027e4ebb9a

They are wasting their time, just let it go.

job certainly get any easier when other countries did that, helped the evolution of contagiousness, and made it more prolific everywhere elsewhere

yeah whatever, be sure the plaguemongers be opening a new tube of slippery with that news, sentiment-like evident in what I read

keep up the good work, UK’s done well from wild unlimited plague, gave or giving it the economic boost it needed

…job certainly didn’t get any easier, oughtly have writly writ

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-22/philip-lowe-ced-speech-inflation-interest-rates/101685190

Link

the story if people wish to read it.

I’d prefer to just comment on the tidbits I see here. It’s the forum way.

Yes, and I’m sure that is how conspiracy theorists operate as well.

love how COVID-19 is totally only mentioned as a historical event and not a possible connection to a massive loss of economic unit life and economic unit productivity alongside a tendency for other economic units to engage less in infection risks

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

I’d prefer to just comment on the tidbits I see here. It’s the forum way.

Yes, and I’m sure that is how conspiracy theorists operate as well.

love how COVID-19 is totally only mentioned as a historical event and not a possible connection to a massive loss of economic unit life and economic unit productivity alongside a tendency for other economic units to engage less in infection risks

there’s probably an argument that pumping incomprehensible amounts of money into covid containment then swinging completely the other way is wasted money, loss of societal structure really, loss of economic structure, contributes to terrible distortion that is inflationary, essentially something was washed away and lost by swinging entirely the other way

just a reminder also – a critically important fact – of what you won’t read, is that vaccines were meant to help with containment of covid, largely people were sold bullshit, that vaccines would limit the contagiousness and replication rate to something like tolerable epidemic levels, and if there wasn’t a deception in the early stages of people being inclined or let believe this, then it certainly evolved into a mass deception, and it persists to this day

there are endless distractions from this, a blitz to that end

further, to this day the vaccines-to-let-it-go-and-make-it-epidemic has been a horrendous failure, and a monumental deception has been involved to make it good, make it appear good

the obliviators have done a very thorough job vanishing an inconvenient reality from peoples’ minds

transition said:

the obliviators have done a very thorough job vanishing an inconvenient reality from peoples’ minds

seems wasn’t ever actually in most people’s minds

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

the obliviators have done a very thorough job vanishing an inconvenient reality from peoples’ minds

seems wasn’t ever actually in most people’s minds

people are very susceptible to obliviation, receptive that way

the simple act of holding a concept, for example, has about it displacement of things that contradict it or make it uncomfortable to sustain

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

Yes, and I’m sure that is how conspiracy theorists operate as well.

love how COVID-19 is totally only mentioned as a historical event and not a possible connection to a massive loss of economic unit life and economic unit productivity alongside a tendency for other economic units to engage less in infection risks

there’s probably an argument that pumping incomprehensible amounts of money into covid containment then swinging completely the other way is wasted money, loss of societal structure really, loss of economic structure, contributes to terrible distortion that is inflationary, essentially something was washed away and lost by swinging entirely the other way

just a reminder also – a critically important fact – of what you won’t read, is that vaccines were meant to help with containment of covid, largely people were sold bullshit, that vaccines would limit the contagiousness and replication rate to something like tolerable epidemic levels, and if there wasn’t a deception in the early stages of people being inclined or let believe this, then it certainly evolved into a mass deception, and it persists to this day

there are endless distractions from this, a blitz to that end

further, to this day the vaccines-to-let-it-go-and-make-it-epidemic has been a horrendous failure, and a monumental deception has been involved to make it good, make it appear good

the obliviators have done a very thorough job vanishing an inconvenient reality from peoples’ minds

>tolerable epidemic levels

tolerable endemic levels that was meant be writ

not that matters much, you gets a mass-host-accommodated-superpandemic-with-rapid-evolution

a worldist share, and as they say a problem shared is a problem halved, or whatever, sort of an introduction to social philosophy that, it’s both the beginning and end of the lesson, brief, easy to learn, won’t take up too much of your valuable time

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-22/fire-kills-38-industrial-wholesaler-central-china-henan/101684920

nice

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-23/long-covid-cases-mount-amid-omicron-wave/101650436

SCIENCE said:

nice

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-23/long-covid-cases-mount-amid-omicron-wave/101650436

“But as a fresh wave prompted by the arrival of new Omicron sub-variants sweeps the country…”

a fresh wave i’m stuck what does that actually mean, then there’s new, so fresh new wave allow me a little reconfiguration

a fresh new wave arrives

sweeps the country

fresh new omicron sub-variants

don;t mind me playing some with the words, they use and arrangement were crafted for effect

I have my doubts there is anything fresh about to happen, or happening, it’s not shampoo

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

nice

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-23/long-covid-cases-mount-amid-omicron-wave/101650436

“But as a fresh wave prompted by the arrival of new Omicron sub-variants sweeps the country…”

a fresh wave i’m stuck what does that actually mean, then there’s new, so fresh new wave allow me a little reconfiguration

a fresh new wave arrives

sweeps the country

fresh new omicron sub-variants

don;t mind me playing some with the words, they use and arrangement were crafted for effect

I have my doubts there is anything fresh about to happen, or happening, it’s not shampoo

an I reckons it does, that (part) sentence reads like a shampoo advertisement

transition said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

nice

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-23/long-covid-cases-mount-amid-omicron-wave/101650436

“But as a fresh wave prompted by the arrival of new Omicron sub-variants sweeps the country…”

a fresh wave i’m stuck what does that actually mean, then there’s new, so fresh new wave allow me a little reconfiguration

a fresh new wave arrives

sweeps the country

fresh new omicron sub-variants

don;t mind me playing some with the words, they use and arrangement were crafted for effect

I have my doubts there is anything fresh about to happen, or happening, it’s not shampoo

an I reckons it does, that (part) sentence reads like a shampoo advertisement

It’s jut nice to think that we’re getting fresh stuff, instead of stale stock.

https://twitter.com/AukeHoekstra/status/1594084375972712448

Link

AukeHoekstra
@AukeHoekstra
Have others told you there are not enough raw materials to transition to 100% renewables?

Did they say minerals are the new oil?

Maybe they believed SimonMichaux of GTK_FI?

If so, please explain to them they were fooled, by showing them this thread.

Sibeen may be interested.

so-called actuarial experts what do they know

Everything’s changed now.
COVID Symptoms are Changing. Here’s What to Watch For Now, Including Headaches.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/medical/covid-symptoms-are-changing-here-s-what-to-watch-for-now-including-headaches/ss-AA14kkNs?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=041368aa5d4c4239b87a69873068497a#image=1

Peak Warming Man said:

Everything’s changed now.
COVID Symptoms are Changing. Here’s What to Watch For Now, Including Headaches.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/medical/covid-symptoms-are-changing-here-s-what-to-watch-for-now-including-headaches/ss-AA14kkNs?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=041368aa5d4c4239b87a69873068497a#image=1

so RAT are useless and symptoms are wrong, guess the pandemic is over and economic must growth productivity will be back to normal post haste

SCIENCE said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Everything’s changed now.
COVID Symptoms are Changing. Here’s What to Watch For Now, Including Headaches.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/medical/covid-symptoms-are-changing-here-s-what-to-watch-for-now-including-headaches/ss-AA14kkNs?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=041368aa5d4c4239b87a69873068497a#image=1

so RAT are useless and symptoms are wrong, guess the pandemic is over and economic must growth productivity will be back to normal post haste

Yep, nothing to see here, it’s over, go back to your homes.

SCIENCE said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Everything’s changed now.
COVID Symptoms are Changing. Here’s What to Watch For Now, Including Headaches.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/medical/covid-symptoms-are-changing-here-s-what-to-watch-for-now-including-headaches/ss-AA14kkNs?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=041368aa5d4c4239b87a69873068497a#image=1

so RAT are useless and symptoms are wrong, guess the pandemic is over and economic must growth productivity will be back to normal post haste

stops reading

attributes intention to a virus

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Everything’s changed now.
COVID Symptoms are Changing. Here’s What to Watch For Now, Including Headaches.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/medical/covid-symptoms-are-changing-here-s-what-to-watch-for-now-including-headaches/ss-AA14kkNs?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=041368aa5d4c4239b87a69873068497a#image=1

so RAT are useless and symptoms are wrong, guess the pandemic is over and economic must growth productivity will be back to normal post haste

stops reading

attributes intention to a virus

Inattention syndrome?

roughbarked said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

so RAT are useless and symptoms are wrong, guess the pandemic is over and economic must growth productivity will be back to normal post haste

stops reading

attributes intention to a virus

Inattention syndrome?

yeah I probably shouldn’t walk in from the heat, thirsty, NFI what I was reading now

apologies maybe

transition said:

roughbarked said:

transition said:

stops reading

attributes intention to a virus

Inattention syndrome?

yeah I probably shouldn’t walk in from the heat, thirsty, NFI what I was reading now

apologies maybe

has me another look, has pages can scroll through, or auto

‘artful’ anyway, I sees that

https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/medical/covid-symptoms-are-changing-here-s-what-to-watch-for-now-including-headaches/ss-AA14kkNs

quote of a quote, by memory, perhaps more paraphrase

‘…in the beginning the virus had an intent to create a lot of harm…’

I think the flipside of that is an invitation to attribute (more) benign characteristics to omicron, or later variants to generalize

one might also state that to let covid inhabit a massive host base and readily mutate involves intent to let it cause harm, probably truer

whatever, maybe something was translated from icelandic

transition said:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/medical/covid-symptoms-are-changing-here-s-what-to-watch-for-now-including-headaches/ss-AA14kkNs

quote of a quote, by memory, perhaps more paraphrase

‘…in the beginning the virus had an intent to create a lot of harm…’

I think the flipside of that is an invitation to attribute (more) benign characteristics to omicron, or later variants to generalize

one might also state that to let covid inhabit a massive host base and readily mutate involves intent to let it cause harm, probably truer

whatever, maybe something was translated from icelandic

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SCIENCE said:

dv said:

kii said:

sarahs mum said:

kii said:

dv said:

I don’t want you to shut up.
I’m just explaining why I have some sympathy for Bubblecar’s feelings on this one.

Bubblecar has encouraged the wookie shit by responding in the way he has. That he is upset about what’s posted is part of his drama game.
The drama about his hernia, his injury to his leg…how many people piled on their sympathy and he kept delaying getting medical attention. Calling ambulances and dramatic posts about the pain etc.
He loves the attention.

Part of Car’s medicals is also a reflection on tasmanian Health.
I also delay medical attention.

Tell me about it. Where do I live? How isolated am i? At least he has caring family members who assist him.

There’s no doubt that you and he are very different people.

look we’re not eastern Europeans or anything but when Cymek implies that disallowances are despotism we think a bigger problem is the people with less access to “universal” human rights arguing that those with more access to the expected baseline of rights shouldn’t have them

here, while yous were fighting the shitfight

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-24/woman-dies-while-ramped-two-hours-royal-hobart-hospital/101692638

you’re all fucking arseholes and we’re sure everyone can do better

A woman has died while ramped for about two hours at the Royal Hobart Hospital this week, with further concerns raised about the impact of the latest COVID wave on the health system.

and we apologise for calling yousall names

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

There’s no doubt that you and he are very different people.

look we’re not eastern Europeans or anything but when Cymek implies that disallowances are despotism we think a bigger problem is the people with less access to “universal” human rights arguing that those with more access to the expected baseline of rights shouldn’t have them

here, while yous were fighting the shitfight

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-24/woman-dies-while-ramped-two-hours-royal-hobart-hospital/101692638

you’re all fucking arseholes and we’re sure everyone can do better

A woman has died while ramped for about two hours at the Royal Hobart Hospital this week, with further concerns raised about the impact of the latest COVID wave on the health system.

and we apologise for calling yousall names

there

Ukrainian officials said a newborn baby had been killed in a Russian missile attack that hit a maternity hospital in the city of Vilniansk in south-eastern Ukraine earlier on Wednesday. The state emergency service said that at the time of the attack a woman with a newborn baby and a doctor had been in a maternity ward in a two-storey building that was destroyed. The doctor and the mother were rescued but the baby died, it said on Telegram, under photos of rescue workers sifting through the rubble, with white smoke rising into the night sky.

you see

imagine if selling the idea that infectious disease is nice could make people want more infectious disease

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-24/who-cdc-issue-measles-warning/101691896

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

There’s no doubt that you and he are very different people.

look we’re not eastern Europeans or anything but when Cymek implies that disallowances are despotism we think a bigger problem is the people with less access to “universal” human rights arguing that those with more access to the expected baseline of rights shouldn’t have them

here, while yous were fighting the shitfight

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-24/woman-dies-while-ramped-two-hours-royal-hobart-hospital/101692638

you’re all fucking arseholes and we’re sure everyone can do better

A woman has died while ramped for about two hours at the Royal Hobart Hospital this week, with further concerns raised about the impact of the latest COVID wave on the health system.

and we apologise for calling yousall names

these covid ‘waves’ have a persistent high base infection rate across them, across the population, if I consider my exposure environment and infections over the last eight months heading for nine months it appears to me the waves aren’t really separate things (as people are being encouraged to conceive it), they are certainly opportunity for recombination by way of coexisting infections

but what choice do you have without corrupting your concept of wave

a regional surge of mutated plague with increased mutation potential maybe, fueled by travel, and the enhanced caring of course, the good work of the individual responsibility

individual responsibility, who really wants that with a dog’s breakfast of mixed prolific plague out there, who’d want be individually responsible

of course it’s a joke really, not a funny joke maybe, not that sort, I mean absurd

whatever feeds the news machine, and expands markets for drugs

but is there any morality about it

tidelike waves

SCIENCE said:

tidelike waves

probably more like that, but shhh finger on lips, don’t tell anyone, I don’t want feed speculation humans are breeding plague, start a rumor, no

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

tidelike waves

probably more like that, but shhh finger on lips, don’t tell anyone, I don’t want feed speculation humans are breeding plague, start a rumor, no

I probably should stay away from this species then?

roughbarked said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

tidelike waves

probably more like that, but shhh finger on lips, don’t tell anyone, I don’t want feed speculation humans are breeding plague, start a rumor, no

I probably should stay away from this species then?

some study of my own ignorance, and BS more broadly, all that makes necessary ignorance work, end of the day what happens happens

some study of BS

i’ve seen it writ, radiate out from the land of liberty that more liberal countries don’t have ideology, if I internalized that it would also mean liberal countries don’t have an ideological apparatus, but I see the work of the ideological apparatus

an education, and wouldn’t it be nice to have some wandering philosophy

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

look we’re not eastern Europeans or anything but when Cymek implies that disallowances are despotism we think a bigger problem is the people with less access to “universal” human rights arguing that those with more access to the expected baseline of rights shouldn’t have them

here, while yous were fighting the shitfight

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-24/woman-dies-while-ramped-two-hours-royal-hobart-hospital/101692638

you’re all fucking arseholes and we’re sure everyone can do better

A woman has died while ramped for about two hours at the Royal Hobart Hospital this week, with further concerns raised about the impact of the latest COVID wave on the health system.

and we apologise for calling yousall names

these covid ‘waves’ have a persistent high base infection rate across them, across the population, if I consider my exposure environment and infections over the last eight months heading for nine months it appears to me the waves aren’t really separate things (as people are being encouraged to conceive it), they are certainly opportunity for recombination by way of coexisting infections

but what choice do you have without corrupting your concept of wave

a regional surge of mutated plague with increased mutation potential maybe, fueled by travel, and the enhanced caring of course, the good work of the individual responsibility

individual responsibility, who really wants that with a dog’s breakfast of mixed prolific plague out there, who’d want be individually responsible

of course it’s a joke really, not a funny joke maybe, not that sort, I mean absurd

whatever feeds the news machine, and expands markets for drugs

but is there any morality about it

Write poetry about it Mr T and submit it to the Age or Quadrant.

Tau.Neutrino said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

here, while yous were fighting the shitfight

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-24/woman-dies-while-ramped-two-hours-royal-hobart-hospital/101692638

you’re all fucking arseholes and we’re sure everyone can do better

A woman has died while ramped for about two hours at the Royal Hobart Hospital this week, with further concerns raised about the impact of the latest COVID wave on the health system.

and we apologise for calling yousall names

these covid ‘waves’ have a persistent high base infection rate across them, across the population, if I consider my exposure environment and infections over the last eight months heading for nine months it appears to me the waves aren’t really separate things (as people are being encouraged to conceive it), they are certainly opportunity for recombination by way of coexisting infections

but what choice do you have without corrupting your concept of wave

a regional surge of mutated plague with increased mutation potential maybe, fueled by travel, and the enhanced caring of course, the good work of the individual responsibility

individual responsibility, who really wants that with a dog’s breakfast of mixed prolific plague out there, who’d want be individually responsible

of course it’s a joke really, not a funny joke maybe, not that sort, I mean absurd

whatever feeds the news machine, and expands markets for drugs

but is there any morality about it

Write poetry about it Mr T and submit it to the Age or Quadrant.

I’d pity the fool that read it

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

transition said:

these covid ‘waves’ have a persistent high base infection rate across them, across the population, if I consider my exposure environment and infections over the last eight months heading for nine months it appears to me the waves aren’t really separate things (as people are being encouraged to conceive it), they are certainly opportunity for recombination by way of coexisting infections

but what choice do you have without corrupting your concept of wave

a regional surge of mutated plague with increased mutation potential maybe, fueled by travel, and the enhanced caring of course, the good work of the individual responsibility

individual responsibility, who really wants that with a dog’s breakfast of mixed prolific plague out there, who’d want be individually responsible

of course it’s a joke really, not a funny joke maybe, not that sort, I mean absurd

whatever feeds the news machine, and expands markets for drugs

but is there any morality about it

Write poetry about it Mr T and submit it to the Age or Quadrant.

I’d pity the fool that read it

Quadrant or the Age?

Well quadrant might be for righties, they still publish a wide range of poetry.

COVID case infections in NSW and Victoria appear to be slowing, new data shows

Tau.Neutrino said:

COVID case infections in NSW and Victoria appear to be slowing, new data shows

must be the last

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

COVID case infections in NSW and Victoria appear to be slowing, new data shows

must be the last

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

COVID case infections in NSW and Victoria appear to be slowing, new data shows

must be the last

gave me a chuckle that page

I want more soup!

insert sketch of toddler in highchair demanding more soup