Kharkiv 6 / -3 cloudy
Kiev 9/1 partly cloudy
Lviv 9/2 partly cloudy
Kherson 11/ -1 partly cloudy
Kharkiv 6 / -3 cloudy
Kiev 9/1 partly cloudy
Lviv 9/2 partly cloudy
Kherson 11/ -1 partly cloudy
я все еще вкладываю деньги в красную армию
мне нравится обратная рупия
кто-нибудь лучше сообщите об этом форуме – он вышел из-под контроля!
wookiemeister said:
я все еще вкладываю деньги в красную армию
Ваша вера трогательна, если неуместно.
And i do not intend to communicate in Russian. It’s thirty years since i used it, and i don’t have the brain-cells left to dredge it up again.
Although bits of it continually pop unbidden into my consciousness..
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:
я все еще вкладываю деньги в красную армию
Ваша вера трогательна, если неуместно.
And i do not intend to communicate in Russian. It’s thirty years since i used it, and i don’t have the brain-cells left to dredge it up again.
Although bits of it continually pop unbidden into my consciousness..
the problem is virtually no one uses it. the only use i can think is talking in russian to get touts off my back if i’m on holiday
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:
я все еще вкладываю деньги в красную армию
Ваша вера трогательна, если неуместно.
from watching stuff on youtube the russians call cars – machinas , close enough to machines, makes you wonder why they just didnt use the word “car”
wookiemeister said:
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:
я все еще вкладываю деньги в красную армию
Ваша вера трогательна, если неуместно.
And i do not intend to communicate in Russian. It’s thirty years since i used it, and i don’t have the brain-cells left to dredge it up again.
Although bits of it continually pop unbidden into my consciousness..
there are apps where you can learnthe problem is virtually no one uses it. the only use i can think is talking in russian to get touts off my back if i’m on holiday
I had teaching back in the early 80s. I wasn’t ‘translator’ level, but i could converse ok and read e.g. a newspaper without too much trouble, and other documents if given a bit of time.
Interesting language, learning a new alphabet was good – one day it’s all just squiggles on the paper, and then, seemingly overnight, it starts to make sense.
But, if you don’t use a language, you lose it, or at least the flow of it. As i say, bits of it come and go in my mind, sometimes at quite unexpected moments. I could probably revise and refresh it, but i’m concentrating on improving my proficiency in French (mastering the subjunctives is the goal).
A pair Su-25 bombing the town of Maryinka, Ukrainian position in chaos
https://youtu.be/JbMrIr19ARw
Lancet-3 struck Ukrainian Buk-M1 and M777 in one day
https://youtu.be/C5Ae8dG4Jro
Brutally, Ka 52 “Alligator” hunts Ukrainian armored vehicles in Kherson
https://youtu.be/omHbs8XniWM
Moment Ukrainian Humvee blown up by Mine
https://youtu.be/dsr6YK5eEDo
https://youtu.be/dmsXyJgzk-8
watch this if thats all been too depressing
battle of britain movie
i wonder if you could make a copy of a spitfire and made it electric – much cheaper – no merlin engine
its always made me wonder why the german pilots didnt just land their 109 or focke wolf in a field somewhere and hide it in a barn for later on
with the collapse of the military you could simply nick a tiger tank or fighter plane and hide it as a souvenir for yourself.
what did you do in the war faarter? pulls a huge sheet off a bf109 in spectacular condition.
the german helmet has always been the superior soldiers helmet in my opinon
good covering for the neck – especially if laying prone, keeps splinters off your cerebellum
the front has a very good shade for the eyes, keeps the sun and rain out of your eyes
wookiemeister said:
its always made me wonder why the german pilots didnt just land their 109 or focke wolf in a field somewhere and hide it in a barn for later onwith the collapse of the military you could simply nick a tiger tank or fighter plane and hide it as a souvenir for yourself.
what did you do in the war faarter? pulls a huge sheet off a bf109 in spectacular condition.
Not long after i left the Navy, i worked with a Hungarian who had flown 109s for the Germans against the Russians (he wasn’t crazy about the Germans, either, but he had his fights listed in priority order). I went out with a girl whose Hungarian father had driven a German tank in Russia.
While neither of them blabbed a lot about it, i’d suggest that both of them were quite happy to walk away from the war and all its paraphenalia as soon as they got the chance, without a backward glance, let alone take any of it home with them.
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:
its always made me wonder why the german pilots didnt just land their 109 or focke wolf in a field somewhere and hide it in a barn for later onwith the collapse of the military you could simply nick a tiger tank or fighter plane and hide it as a souvenir for yourself.
what did you do in the war faarter? pulls a huge sheet off a bf109 in spectacular condition.
Not long after i left the Navy, i worked with a Hungarian who had flown 109s for the Germans against the Russians (he wasn’t crazy about the Germans, either, but he had his fights listed in priority order). I went out with a girl whose Hungarian father had driven a German tank in Russia.
While neither of them blabbed a lot about it, i’d suggest that both of them were quite happy to walk away from the war and all its paraphenalia as soon as they got the chance, without a backward glance, let alone take any of it home with them.
wookiemeister said:
thats a shame
Europe in the immediate post-war period was a very dodgy place. You probably woudln’t want to draw a lot of attention
There was a lot of people in very desperate situations who would do desperate things, there was a lot of people with personal vendettas against people who been part of this force or that, a lot of people who would ‘erase’ anyone whose ‘political suitability’ was suspect, a lot of Allied forces hunting for people who’d done terrible things, very risky indeed.
It wouldn’t have been wise to hang on to anything that might have given anyone any cause to suspect that you might be a threat to them, or a target for them. Discard the trappings of war promptly , go quietly home (if it was still there), and leave the past behind.
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:
я все еще вкладываю деньги в красную армию
Ваша вера трогательна, если неуместно.
And i do not intend to communicate in Russian. It’s thirty years since i used it, and i don’t have the brain-cells left to dredge it up again.
Although bits of it continually pop unbidden into my consciousness..

anyway here’s something exciting for yousal’
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-14/sergey-lavrov-taken-to-hospital-in-bali-g20-summit/101653392
defections galore
Мое судно на воздушной подушке полно угрей
Peter Ziehan’s thnoughts on the situation, posted an hour or so ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9JfO_mI4oQ
Could people please make some effort to ignore this fascist troll and not post in its threads?
The forum will benefit hugely.
Bubblecar said:
Could people please make some effort to ignore this fascist troll and not post in its threads?The forum will benefit hugely.
+1
wookiemeister said:
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:
its always made me wonder why the german pilots didnt just land their 109 or focke wolf in a field somewhere and hide it in a barn for later onwith the collapse of the military you could simply nick a tiger tank or fighter plane and hide it as a souvenir for yourself.
what did you do in the war faarter? pulls a huge sheet off a bf109 in spectacular condition.
Not long after i left the Navy, i worked with a Hungarian who had flown 109s for the Germans against the Russians (he wasn’t crazy about the Germans, either, but he had his fights listed in priority order). I went out with a girl whose Hungarian father had driven a German tank in Russia.
While neither of them blabbed a lot about it, i’d suggest that both of them were quite happy to walk away from the war and all its paraphenalia as soon as they got the chance, without a backward glance, let alone take any of it home with them.
thats a shame
Why would anyone want to relive a war?
wookiemeister said:
кто-нибудь лучше сообщите об этом форуме – он вышел из-под контроля!
Translating
> someone better report this forum – it’s out of control !
LOL
It’s easier in English. https://tass.com/
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/
Моё судно на воздушной подушке полно угрей
fsm said:
Моё судно на воздушной подушке полно угрей
My hovercraft is full of eels.?
roughbarked said:
fsm said:
Моё судно на воздушной подушке полно угрейMy hovercraft is full of eels.?
оне ыеллйфисх фор ме!
It’s the phrase ‘one jellyfish for me!’ converted from English alphabet to Cyrillic.
It was the first exercise our class was given in learning the Cyrillic alphabet. Something to do with Russians using jellyfish top make aspic for some dishes, or something.
In any case, it became a catch-cry for the class. On encountering one another in any setting, we would cry out ‘оне ыеллйфисх фор ме!’ as a greeting.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
fsm said:
Моё судно на воздушной подушке полно угрейMy hovercraft is full of eels.?
оне ыеллйфисх фор ме!
It’s the phrase ‘one jellyfish for me!’ converted from English alphabet to Cyrillic.
It was the first exercise our class was given in learning the Cyrillic alphabet. Something to do with Russians using jellyfish top make aspic for some dishes, or something.
In any case, it became a catch-cry for the class. On encountering one another in any setting, we would cry out ‘оне ыеллйфисх фор ме!’ as a greeting.
Мой корабль на воздушной подушке полон медуз
fsm said:
Мой корабль на воздушной подушке полон медуз
OK, i’m stopping with the Russian. It makes my brain hurt after all these years.
captain_spalding said:
fsm said:Мой корабль на воздушной подушке полон медуз
OK, i’m stopping with the Russian. It makes my brain hurt after all these years.
Not only yours.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
fsm said:Мой корабль на воздушной подушке полон медуз
OK, i’m stopping with the Russian. It makes my brain hurt after all these years.
Not only yours.
aha
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
fsm said:
Моё судно на воздушной подушке полно угрейMy hovercraft is full of eels.?
оне ыеллйфисх фор ме!
It’s the phrase ‘one jellyfish for me!’ converted from English alphabet to Cyrillic.
It was the first exercise our class was given in learning the Cyrillic alphabet. Something to do with Russians using jellyfish top make aspic for some dishes, or something.
In any case, it became a catch-cry for the class. On encountering one another in any setting, we would cry out ‘оне ыеллйфисх фор ме!’ as a greeting.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
fsm said:Мой корабль на воздушной подушке полон медуз
OK, i’m stopping with the Russian. It makes my brain hurt after all these years.
Not only yours.
+1
Bubblecar said:
Could people please make some effort to ignore this fascist troll and not post in its threads?The forum will benefit hugely.
The Ukrainian forces openly march around with nazi, SS insignia and all sorts of lesser known nazi symbols.
On June 23, 1941, one day after the German attack on the Soviet Union, Bandera sent a letter to Hitler arguing the case for an independent Ukraine. On 30 June 1941, with the arrival of Nazi troops in Ukraine, Bandera and the OUN-B unilaterally declared an independent Ukrainian state (“Act of Renewal of Ukrainian Statehood”). The proclamation pledged a cooperation of the new Ukrainian state with Nazi Germany under the leadership of Hitler with a closing note “Glory to the heroic German army and its Führer, Adolf Hitler”. The declaration was accompanied by violent pogroms.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
fsm said:Мой корабль на воздушной подушке полон медуз
OK, i’m stopping with the Russian. It makes my brain hurt after all these years.
Not only yours.
add mine to that.
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:OK, i’m stopping with the Russian. It makes my brain hurt after all these years.
Not only yours.
add mine to that.
wookiemeister said:
Bubblecar said:
Could people please make some effort to ignore this fascist troll and not post in its threads?The forum will benefit hugely.
BubblesThe Ukrainian forces openly march around with nazi, SS insignia and all sorts of lesser known nazi symbols.
On June 23, 1941, one day after the German attack on the Soviet Union, Bandera sent a letter to Hitler arguing the case for an independent Ukraine. On 30 June 1941, with the arrival of Nazi troops in Ukraine, Bandera and the OUN-B unilaterally declared an independent Ukrainian state (“Act of Renewal of Ukrainian Statehood”). The proclamation pledged a cooperation of the new Ukrainian state with Nazi Germany under the leadership of Hitler with a closing note “Glory to the heroic German army and its Führer, Adolf Hitler”. The declaration was accompanied by violent pogroms.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_ranks_of_Ukraine
As yuri said the true believers in the new paradigm are creatures trained to react to certain stimuli.
The loss of the brain in western government shows you how fragile human psychology really is.
Hg wells talk of the organised/ structured mind as being responsible for civilisation, when that gets lost it all crumbles down again.
I see requests to ignore the troll still don’t work, after all these years :(
Not much pointing peeping in here any more.
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:
Bubblecar said:
Could people please make some effort to ignore this fascist troll and not post in its threads?The forum will benefit hugely.
BubblesThe Ukrainian forces openly march around with nazi, SS insignia and all sorts of lesser known nazi symbols.
On June 23, 1941, one day after the German attack on the Soviet Union, Bandera sent a letter to Hitler arguing the case for an independent Ukraine. On 30 June 1941, with the arrival of Nazi troops in Ukraine, Bandera and the OUN-B unilaterally declared an independent Ukrainian state (“Act of Renewal of Ukrainian Statehood”). The proclamation pledged a cooperation of the new Ukrainian state with Nazi Germany under the leadership of Hitler with a closing note “Glory to the heroic German army and its Führer, Adolf Hitler”. The declaration was accompanied by violent pogroms.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_ranks_of_Ukraine
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:
Bubblecar said:
Could people please make some effort to ignore this fascist troll and not post in its threads?The forum will benefit hugely.
BubblesThe Ukrainian forces openly march around with nazi, SS insignia and all sorts of lesser known nazi symbols.
On June 23, 1941, one day after the German attack on the Soviet Union, Bandera sent a letter to Hitler arguing the case for an independent Ukraine. On 30 June 1941, with the arrival of Nazi troops in Ukraine, Bandera and the OUN-B unilaterally declared an independent Ukrainian state (“Act of Renewal of Ukrainian Statehood”). The proclamation pledged a cooperation of the new Ukrainian state with Nazi Germany under the leadership of Hitler with a closing note “Glory to the heroic German army and its Führer, Adolf Hitler”. The declaration was accompanied by violent pogroms.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_ranks_of_Ukraine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Armed_Forces_branch_insignia
what is brain
Bubblecar said:
I see requests to ignore the troll still don’t work, after all these years :(Not much pointing peeping in here any more.
Everything that comes into being is meant to break down.
Just do 5 seconds of research
wookiemeister said:
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:Bubbles
The Ukrainian forces openly march around with nazi, SS insignia and all sorts of lesser known nazi symbols.
On June 23, 1941, one day after the German attack on the Soviet Union, Bandera sent a letter to Hitler arguing the case for an independent Ukraine. On 30 June 1941, with the arrival of Nazi troops in Ukraine, Bandera and the OUN-B unilaterally declared an independent Ukrainian state (“Act of Renewal of Ukrainian Statehood”). The proclamation pledged a cooperation of the new Ukrainian state with Nazi Germany under the leadership of Hitler with a closing note “Glory to the heroic German army and its Führer, Adolf Hitler”. The declaration was accompanied by violent pogroms.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_ranks_of_Ukraine
They are covered in swastika tattoos roughie
No they are not.
wookiemeister said:
Bubblecar said:
I see requests to ignore the troll still don’t work, after all these years :(Not much pointing peeping in here any more.
Bubbles if you want to support nazi ideology that’s your bag – don’t complain when you get called out.
Only one nazi here that I know of. I think you know who that is.
wookiemeister said:
Just do 5 seconds of research
I don’t need to. The story is a pile of crap.
roughbarked said:
Everything that comes into being is meant to break down.
wookiemeister said:
Bubblecar said:
I see requests to ignore the troll still don’t work, after all these years :(Not much pointing peeping in here any more.
Bubbles if you want to support nazi ideology that’s your bag – don’t complain when you get called out.
You’re the card-carrying fucking Nazi, as we’ve known for years. Racist shitbag, misogynist, homophobe, anti-democracy, anti-freedom, lover of anything fascist.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Everything that comes into being is meant to break down.
You’ve owned British made cars then?
Powered by lord lucas.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Everything that comes into being is meant to break down.
You’ve owned British made cars then?
Even more terrifying: British-made motorcycles!
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Everything that comes into being is meant to break down.
You’ve owned British made cars then?
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Everything that comes into being is meant to break down.
You’ve owned British made cars then?Powered by lord lucas.
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Everything that comes into being is meant to break down.
You’ve owned British made cars then?Even more terrifying: British-made motorcycles!
Bastards Stop Anywhere.
Anyway wookie and his pal cb88, here’s your forum back :)
No point looking in here just to find all the other posters clustered around a host-supported agent of stinking war criminals.
wookiemeister said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Everything that comes into being is meant to break down.
You’ve owned British made cars then?
Leyland Marina
Bubblecar said:
Anyway wookie and his pal cb88, here’s your forum back :)No point looking in here just to find all the other posters clustered around a host-supported agent of stinking war criminals.
We all agree with most of what you said apart from frothing at the mouth.
Free speech is what it is but fake rubbish does have to be called out.
Normally this would be Boris’ job.
Tamb said:
wookiemeister said:
Tamb said:You’ve owned British made cars then?
Leyland Marina
They were fairly safe…………. because they wouldn’t start.
Then there was the P76.
Bubblecar said:
Anyway wookie and his pal cb88, here’s your forum back :)No point looking in here just to find all the other posters clustered around a host-supported agent of stinking war criminals.
The Australian gov has sent 500 million in weapons to ukraine to prop them up.
Most likely the Australian gov has sent MORE money and weapons to ukraine.
What dies it matter if ONE voice on an insignificant forum says “ hey – you know we are propping up a facist ideology?”.
If you want to get things rolling write a letter to your MP to see if Australia can get more troops into ukraine to fight on the eastern front. If there’s one thing I’ve learnt is Australia loves fighting in doomed conflicts – it’s about mateship and being forged in steel etc. The only fly in the ointment is the russuabs have a vast and wide range of weapons – its not like dropping bombs on sandals and AK47s for 20 years.
Australia could easily sustain 1000 deaths a week fighting Russia.
Sure if Russian hypersonic destroy all of our limited and failing power network it will all be worth it because it’s “the right thing to do”.
Start writing to your local MP to drum up support for ukraine than wasting time arguing with me.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
wookiemeister said:Leyland Marina
They were fairly safe…………. because they wouldn’t start.Then there was the P76.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
wookiemeister said:Leyland Marina
They were fairly safe…………. because they wouldn’t start.Then there was the P76.
A bloke who’d had one said that it was basically a fairly good car, had some good points, but Leyland’s timing was really lousy. The market was becoming more focussed on small-to-medium cars, and Leyland goes and brings out a big car.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:They were fairly safe…………. because they wouldn’t start.
Then there was the P76.
I made the power steering units for them.
Gosh, that really is 70s styling, isn’t it?
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:They were fairly safe…………. because they wouldn’t start.
Then there was the P76.
A bloke who’d had one said that it was basically a fairly good car, had some good points, but Leyland’s timing was really lousy. The market was becoming more focussed on small-to-medium cars, and Leyland goes and brings out a big car.
wookiemeister said:
than wasting time arguing with me.
smartest thing I’ve heard you say.
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:
than wasting time arguing with me.smartest thing I’ve heard you say.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:They were fairly safe…………. because they wouldn’t start.
Then there was the P76.
A bloke who’d had one said that it was basically a fairly good car, had some good points, but Leyland’s timing was really lousy. The market was becoming more focussed on small-to-medium cars, and Leyland goes and brings out a big car.
This and the fact that they weren’t the miss world of the fashion catwalk.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:Then there was the P76.
A bloke who’d had one said that it was basically a fairly good car, had some good points, but Leyland’s timing was really lousy. The market was becoming more focussed on small-to-medium cars, and Leyland goes and brings out a big car.
This and the fact that they weren’t the miss world of the fashion catwalk.
Probably as ugly as wookie’s brainwave pattern.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:Then there was the P76.
A bloke who’d had one said that it was basically a fairly good car, had some good points, but Leyland’s timing was really lousy. The market was becoming more focussed on small-to-medium cars, and Leyland goes and brings out a big car.
This and the fact that they weren’t the miss world of the fashion catwalk.
It was the 70s. We forgave a lot of ugliness in the name of fashion/trendy, but the media, and in particular the ‘motoring press’, ganged up big-time on the P76’s styling, and the public bought into the vendetta.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:A bloke who’d had one said that it was basically a fairly good car, had some good points, but Leyland’s timing was really lousy. The market was becoming more focussed on small-to-medium cars, and Leyland goes and brings out a big car.
This and the fact that they weren’t the miss world of the fashion catwalk.
It was the 70s. We forgave a lot of ugliness in the name of fashion/trendy, but the media, and in particular the ‘motoring press’, ganged up big-time on the P76’s styling, and the public bought into the vendetta.
Yes. I was there and I do remember. ;) Contrary to popular opinion.
roughbarked said:
Yes. I was there and I do remember. ;) Contrary to popular opinion.
I was in a shop several months ago, and i commented to the young lady there that the place had 70s vibe about it.
She said that she loved the 1970s, and that she was going to have a 1970s party that weekend.
I must have looked a little surprised/shocked/puzzled, because she asked ‘you’re not keen on the 70s?’.
‘Not really’, i said, ‘i was there, and it was not pretty in any sense of the word.’
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:Yes. I was there and I do remember. ;) Contrary to popular opinion.
I was in a shop several months ago, and i commented to the young lady there that the place had 70s vibe about it.
She said that she loved the 1970s, and that she was going to have a 1970s party that weekend.
I must have looked a little surprised/shocked/puzzled, because she asked ‘you’re not keen on the 70s?’.
‘Not really’, i said, ‘i was there, and it was not pretty in any sense of the word.’
wookiemeister said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:Yes. I was there and I do remember. ;) Contrary to popular opinion.
I was in a shop several months ago, and i commented to the young lady there that the place had 70s vibe about it.
She said that she loved the 1970s, and that she was going to have a 1970s party that weekend.
I must have looked a little surprised/shocked/puzzled, because she asked ‘you’re not keen on the 70s?’.
‘Not really’, i said, ‘i was there, and it was not pretty in any sense of the word.’
As long as there’s lots of casual and consequence free sex and drug use I’ll be fine.
So that’s what happened to your grey cells?
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:
captain_spalding said:I was in a shop several months ago, and i commented to the young lady there that the place had 70s vibe about it.
She said that she loved the 1970s, and that she was going to have a 1970s party that weekend.
I must have looked a little surprised/shocked/puzzled, because she asked ‘you’re not keen on the 70s?’.
‘Not really’, i said, ‘i was there, and it was not pretty in any sense of the word.’
As long as there’s lots of casual and consequence free sex and drug use I’ll be fine.So that’s what happened to your grey cells?
wookiemeister said:
Bubblecar said:
Anyway wookie and his pal cb88, here’s your forum back :)No point looking in here just to find all the other posters clustered around a host-supported agent of stinking war criminals.
Bubbles you’ve already winThe Australian gov has sent 500 million in weapons to ukraine to prop them up.
Most likely the Australian gov has sent MORE money and weapons to ukraine.
What dies it matter if ONE voice on an insignificant forum says “ hey – you know we are propping up a facist ideology?”.
If you want to get things rolling write a letter to your MP to see if Australia can get more troops into ukraine to fight on the eastern front. If there’s one thing I’ve learnt is Australia loves fighting in doomed conflicts – it’s about mateship and being forged in steel etc. The only fly in the ointment is the russuabs have a vast and wide range of weapons – its not like dropping bombs on sandals and AK47s for 20 years.
Australia could easily sustain 1000 deaths a week fighting Russia.
Sure if Russian hypersonic destroy all of our limited and failing power network it will all be worth it because it’s “the right thing to do”.
Start writing to your local MP to drum up support for ukraine than wasting time arguing with me.
Didn’t they hang people like you when at war?
More money down the drain
https://youtu.be/M2ae4H3bN1M
Bushmaster – looks as if it’s taken a hit
False flag attack on poland
Ukraine has been consistently trying to drag NATO further into the conflict
If poland wants to play it up , so be it.
Funny when you think about it poland gets to be the start of two major wars
wookiemeister said:
False flag attack on polandUkraine has been consistently trying to drag NATO further into the conflict
If poland wants to play it up , so be it.
Funny when you think about it poland gets to be the start of two major wars
Tell that to the two people who reportedly died as a result of this supposed false flag..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-16/government-cutting-gas-electricity-prices-likely-intervention/101655610
Missile season continues
Uko forces massive losses ( as usual)
Large sections of ukraine dark
Please continue your normal viewing
Missiles continue
Americana want to start negotiating so the can freeze their losses this winter then restart the war for the spring.
Power networks continue being destroyed
300,000 (or more) Russian troops moving to their forward deployment areas.
Suppose ukraine might launch another false flag by bringing Belarus into the war. You start firing artillery shells into Belarus, Belarus retaliates then you start asking America for more weapons and money – they can’t refuse. W Europe and the US double down with more weapons and money
wookiemeister said:
Missiles continueAmericana want to start negotiating so the can freeze their losses this winter then restart the war for the spring.
Power networks continue being destroyed
300,000 (or more) Russian troops moving to their forward deployment areas.
Suppose ukraine might launch another false flag by bringing Belarus into the war. You start firing artillery shells into Belarus, Belarus retaliates then you start asking America for more weapons and money – they can’t refuse. W Europe and the US double down with more weapons and money
Belarus is already involved, they are just doing it the cowards way
Cymek said:
wookiemeister said:
Missiles continueAmericana want to start negotiating so the can freeze their losses this winter then restart the war for the spring.
Power networks continue being destroyed
300,000 (or more) Russian troops moving to their forward deployment areas.
Suppose ukraine might launch another false flag by bringing Belarus into the war. You start firing artillery shells into Belarus, Belarus retaliates then you start asking America for more weapons and money – they can’t refuse. W Europe and the US double down with more weapons and money
Belarus is already involved, they are just doing it the cowards way
If I were ukraine I’d be getting Belarus involved by making something up/ attacking the belarusian capital – by striking the capital Belarus cannot ignore it. The west CAN’T let Belarus and Russia win
wookiemeister said:
The west CAN’T let Belarus and Russia win
Russia is further away from winning than they were this time last year – the fact they desperately want to negotiate a settlement with Ukraine shows that.
I doubt they will make up any lost ground.
wookiemeister said:
Cymek said:
wookiemeister said:
Missiles continueAmericana want to start negotiating so the can freeze their losses this winter then restart the war for the spring.
Power networks continue being destroyed
300,000 (or more) Russian troops moving to their forward deployment areas.
Suppose ukraine might launch another false flag by bringing Belarus into the war. You start firing artillery shells into Belarus, Belarus retaliates then you start asking America for more weapons and money – they can’t refuse. W Europe and the US double down with more weapons and money
Belarus is already involved, they are just doing it the cowards way
No, it’s a strategy to WIN a war
Well it is a strategy full of holes. Should have used rodent bait.
Dark Orange said:
wookiemeister said:
The west CAN’T let Belarus and Russia win
Russia is further away from winning than they were this time last year – the fact they desperately want to negotiate a settlement with Ukraine shows that.
I doubt they will make up any lost ground.
If you dont know there’s a massive salvo going on at the moment
I was hearing the russians wanted to wrap things up by 31st Dec.
Thought that will be difficult.
Bump up the oil price, spike inflation in Western currencies, buy up some north Korean shells, buy Iranian drones and pump up friendly economies.
The key moment will happen this winter
wookiemeister said:
The key moment will happen this winter
That is what Russia should be worried about.
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:
The key moment will happen this winter
That is what Russia should be worried about.
Why won’t Australia send thousands of Australians to fight the russians on the eastern front
We’re brave
Let’s do it
wookiemeister said:
Dark Orange said:
wookiemeister said:
The west CAN’T let Belarus and Russia win
Russia is further away from winning than they were this time last year – the fact they desperately want to negotiate a settlement with Ukraine shows that.
I doubt they will make up any lost ground.
The yanks initiated the talks not RussiaIf you dont know there’s a massive salvo going on at the moment
Yeah, the last of their cruise missiles aimed at civilian infrastructure. That is really going to help their poor sods on the front line.
wookiemeister said:
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:
The key moment will happen this winter
That is what Russia should be worried about.
Yeah sureWhy won’t Australia send thousands of Australians to fight the russians on the eastern front
We’re brave
Let’s do it
Would be worth it.
Russia is weak
Russians are stupid
It would be a cake walk
Dark Orange said:
wookiemeister said:
Dark Orange said:Russia is further away from winning than they were this time last year – the fact they desperately want to negotiate a settlement with Ukraine shows that.
I doubt they will make up any lost ground.
The yanks initiated the talks not RussiaIf you dont know there’s a massive salvo going on at the moment
Yeah, the last of their cruise missiles aimed at civilian infrastructure. That is really going to help their poor sods on the front line.
We have no problem attacking infrastructure
Australia needs to go to war with Russia
You don’t have a problem with that do you ?
Hey
Hang on
How come we didn’t stay in Afghanistan
We’re brave
Blackouts across ukraine as the power system is being turned into scrap metal ( like all the military hardware being sent to them).
Most likely there’s already a migration westwards. What happens if turkey opens the floodgates to Europe?
Temperatures across ukraine dropping, no power, no water.
The only silver lining to the conflict is that ukraine is back to torturing and killing Russian POWs – genius power move by ukraine to get negotiations going again.
I wonder how many billions Australia will end up pumping into this conflict ?
Kiev 1/ -6 cloudy
Kharkiv 7/-3 showers
Lviv -1/ -7 cloudy
Kherson 11/2 showers
wookiemeister said:
Kiev 1/ -6 cloudy
Kharkiv 7/-3 showers
Lviv -1/ -7 cloudy
Kherson 11/2 showers
Thoughts and prayers are with your Russian conscripts
dv said:
wookiemeister said:
Kiev 1/ -6 cloudy
Kharkiv 7/-3 showers
Lviv -1/ -7 cloudy
Kherson 11/2 showers
Thoughts and prayers are with your Russian conscripts
See if you can write to your local MP, we need 20,000 boots on the ground in ukraine to show those russians how real armies win on the eastern front.
‘Russia is bombing us into the Stone Age. This will be the worst winter of our lives’: Ukrainians prepare for the worst as Putin turns the freezing cold into his deadliest weapon
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11451739/Cold-dark-Kyiv-readies-worst-winter-lives.html
kherson 17/3 rain
kiev 1/-2 freezing rain
lviv 1/ -2 cloudy
kharkiv 3/3 rain
the power outages are going to bite, especially in kiev.
i think the time for deals between russia and ukraine. uko forces torturing and killing POWs sealed the deal.
the motorsich factory got hit (the ukos nationalised the factory and stole it from the chinese owners)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHwbcT12eOg
Capricorn One 1978
once the winter starts to bite you’ll see the migration (i would have already gone months ago – straight across the border. men with guns were stopping men from leaving)
you might see some more gas pipelines being blown up
missile season will continue with the large transformers of the switchyards being blown up
the russians have started moving forward again – slow, incremental, overwhelming
wookiemeister said:
(the ukos nationalised the factory and stole it from the chinese owners)
Another reason to like them.
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:(the ukos nationalised the factory and stole it from the chinese owners)
Another reason to like them.
wookiemeister said:
once the winter starts to bite you’ll see the migration (i would have already gone months ago – straight across the border. men with guns were stopping men from leaving)you might see some more gas pipelines being blown up
missile season will continue with the large transformers of the switchyards being blown up
the russians have started moving forward again – slow, incremental, overwhelming
In the classic Russian style, over a carpet of their own dead.
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:(the ukos nationalised the factory and stole it from the chinese owners)
Another reason to like them.
+1
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:
once the winter starts to bite you’ll see the migration (i would have already gone months ago – straight across the border. men with guns were stopping men from leaving)you might see some more gas pipelines being blown up
missile season will continue with the large transformers of the switchyards being blown up
the russians have started moving forward again – slow, incremental, overwhelming
In the classic Russian style, over a carpet of their own dead.
if NATO decides to have a surprise attack on russia you can say goodbye to maybe 95 percent of the european population
by rights that was the plan of the war in europe in the cold war, the land war would be fought with nukes and conventional weapons in europe. zelensky and poland were trying to start ww3 a few days ago.
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:(the ukos nationalised the factory and stole it from the chinese owners)
Another reason to like them.
we need to dial back the care factor with the islands falling under chinese control. we don’t allow any “refugees” that want to
come to australia when they realise whats happening. we don’t have the weapons nor the organisation / industry to fight china – we need to get rid of the bombers and boots in northern australia and send them back to the US, they are becoming a liability.
stop provoking the chinese and russians
Wookie, at any point during your blathering putin propaganda, do you actually check for any facts?
Or you just repeat it and pretend that the facts don’t matter?
This has been going on for months now, and you just ignore the fact that nearly all of your predictions have been wrong. At what point do you have a look at the real world and realise that you are completely wrong every time. I’ve noticed that you conveniently ignore things that have proved you wrong time and time again, but you continue to post your stupid shit nearly every day.
I used to be ok with listening to the other side of the argument, but you just keep being wrong. How much is putin paying you for this?
we stop all further immigration from china
why are we spending so much on weapons to fight china when china is walking through the airports? its stupid.
Kingy said:
Wookie, at any point during your blathering putin propaganda, do you actually check for any facts?Or you just repeat it and pretend that the facts don’t matter?
This has been going on for months now, and you just ignore the fact that nearly all of your predictions have been wrong. At what point do you have a look at the real world and realise that you are completely wrong every time. I’ve noticed that you conveniently ignore things that have proved you wrong time and time again, but you continue to post your stupid shit nearly every day.
I used to be ok with listening to the other side of the argument, but you just keep being wrong. How much is putin paying you for this?
the uko cities are going dark and the snow is starting to fall – if i’m totally wrong then the cities are vibrant with plenty of food, lights and heat with a christamassy feel , just think about things being like this, at least you’ll be happier.
australia could easily pump 500 million into ukraine every month and not feel it
we could raise GST up a little to help pay for it.
australia could easily lose 20,000 men a month on the eastern front. theres 25 million in australia,
it would take us decades to even make a dent on the population (and if people don’t like it they can shut up)
with anything up to 240,000 men killed we probably wouldn’t even notice it. women can easily fill all the jobs
we can just send the brightest and best to the front and they can be killed
slava ukraine and all that
i always have that deja vu in this forum – the most posters here have never seen a war they didn’t like
i remember on the SSSF arguing with people there that massive explosions at a nuclear plant (fukishima) was a sign that something bad was happening.
anyway
wookiemeister out
its just a matter of being a weather watcher now
wookiemeister said:
anywaywookiemeister out
its just a matter of being a weather watcher now
Wookie for your information, most of the world thinks the Russian Army is a laughingstock. Never in the history of warfare has such a large wealthy country with vast resources performed so poorly. Russia is an embarrassment to others of their ilk and must make other dictators overjoyed that they are not in Putin’s position.
‘Russia is bombing us into the Stone Age. This will be the worst winter of our lives’: Ukrainians prepare for the worst as Putin turns the freezing cold into his deadliest weapon
Putin’s strikes ‘plunging Ukraine into the Stone Age,’ says Kyiv resident
Residents left without electricity and water and must cook on camping stoves
Russia ‘cannot win on the battlefield’ so ‘use cold and darkness as a weapon’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11451739/Cold-dark-Kyiv-readies-worst-winter-lives.html
ukrainian forces continue to shell the nulear plant
missile attacks on network continues
kherson 4 / -1 cloudy
lviv 4 / -4
kharkov 8 / -1
kiev -1 / -4
Ten Million People Have Fled Their Homes In Ukraine Since War Began, UN Says
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-refugees-united-nations/31762007.html
Daily work of Russian troops in Ugledar destroying Ukrainian foreign equipment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OovCejJNUGA
Kalibr landing all over Ukraine as consequence of Kiev provocation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2lWUk9yr0U
makes me wonder if the russians will start targeting the german anti aircraft systems ?
ukraine will probably end up a vast live fire zone for a while now.
it will end up being a buffer state because no one will live there
wookiemeister said:
makes me wonder if the russians will start targeting the german anti aircraft systems ?ukraine will probably end up a vast live fire zone for a while now.
it will end up being a buffer state because no one will live there
LOL
Congratulations, Russia won the wooden spoon of modern warfare. :))
Missile season continues with wave after wave of attacks on the power system
Temperatures continue to decrease
Moldova goes dark as ukraine goes dark
The russians continue their build up of forces across the front.
With power out across ukraine, gas storages being attacked, no water etc we can expect waves of refugees to start turning up at the countries that keep funnelling weapons from the west.
wookiemeister said:
Missile season continues with wave after wave of attacks on the power systemTemperatures continue to decrease
Moldova goes dark as ukraine goes dark
The russians continue their build up of forces across the front.
With power out across ukraine, gas storages being attacked, no water etc we can expect waves of refugees to start turning up at the countries that keep funnelling weapons from the west.
Essentially, Russia admits that it can’t defeat Ukraine on the battlefield.
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:
Missile season continues with wave after wave of attacks on the power systemTemperatures continue to decrease
Moldova goes dark as ukraine goes dark
The russians continue their build up of forces across the front.
With power out across ukraine, gas storages being attacked, no water etc we can expect waves of refugees to start turning up at the countries that keep funnelling weapons from the west.
Essentially, Russia admits that it can’t defeat Ukraine on the battlefield.
Essentially, a flailing failure.
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:
Missile season continues with wave after wave of attacks on the power systemTemperatures continue to decrease
Moldova goes dark as ukraine goes dark
The russians continue their build up of forces across the front.
With power out across ukraine, gas storages being attacked, no water etc we can expect waves of refugees to start turning up at the countries that keep funnelling weapons from the west.
Essentially, Russia admits that it can’t defeat Ukraine on the battlefield.
wookiemeister said:
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:
Missile season continues with wave after wave of attacks on the power systemTemperatures continue to decrease
Moldova goes dark as ukraine goes dark
The russians continue their build up of forces across the front.
With power out across ukraine, gas storages being attacked, no water etc we can expect waves of refugees to start turning up at the countries that keep funnelling weapons from the west.
Essentially, Russia admits that it can’t defeat Ukraine on the battlefield.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_bombing_during_World_War_II
‘Strategic bombing’ was a fashionable idea throughout the 1930s and into the 1940s. It proved to be little else, even when given more than ample opportunities to prove otherwise.
I would recommend that you read ‘The Bomber Mafia’ by Malcolm Gladwell (Little, Brown and Company, 2021) and ‘Strategic Bombing by the United States in World War II: The Myths and the Facts’ (by Stewart Halsey Ross, McFarland & Company , 2002), and that you seek out other titles on the subject, of which there are several.
Almost universally, they point to the failure of strategic bombing to meet its stated objectives, and its lack of value as a military strategy.
In the case of the German bombing of Britain, the campaign singularly failed in its objectives of either eliminating the RAF’s ability to resist, or in destroying overall civilian morale.
In the case of the Allied bombing of Germany, the campaign fell miserably short of curtailing Germany’s war production, In fact, Germany’s war production in many cases reached peaked levels at precisely the times that bombing advocates would have predicted that it should have been shattered:
Example:
!
!
https://www.ww2-weapons.com/german-arms-production/
A multitude of sources indicate that a campaign of ‘strategic bombing’ is likely to be a strategy of last resort, or for those who are bereft of any other means of retaliation against an enemy, whether through circumstance or due to lack of competence elsewhere. And it’s equally indicated that such a strategy is most unlikely to succeed.
Summary: it’s not likely to win the war for you.
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:
captain_spalding said:Essentially, Russia admits that it can’t defeat Ukraine on the battlefield.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_bombing_during_World_War_II‘Strategic bombing’ was a fashionable idea throughout the 1930s and into the 1940s. It proved to be little else, even when given more than ample opportunities to prove otherwise.
I would recommend that you read ‘The Bomber Mafia’ by Malcolm Gladwell (Little, Brown and Company, 2021) and ‘Strategic Bombing by the United States in World War II: The Myths and the Facts’ (by Stewart Halsey Ross, McFarland & Company , 2002), and that you seek out other titles on the subject, of which there are several.
Almost universally, they point to the failure of strategic bombing to meet its stated objectives, and its lack of value as a military strategy.
In the case of the German bombing of Britain, the campaign singularly failed in its objectives of either eliminating the RAF’s ability to resist, or in destroying overall civilian morale.
In the case of the Allied bombing of Germany, the campaign fell miserably short of curtailing Germany’s war production, In fact, Germany’s war production in many cases reached peaked levels at precisely the times that bombing advocates would have predicted that it should have been shattered:
Example:
!
!
https://www.ww2-weapons.com/german-arms-production/
A multitude of sources indicate that a campaign of ‘strategic bombing’ is likely to be a strategy of last resort, or for those who are bereft of any other means of retaliation against an enemy, whether through circumstance or due to lack of competence elsewhere. And it’s equally indicated that such a strategy is most unlikely to succeed.
Summary: it’s not likely to win the war for you.
But Ukrainians will be forced to wear mittens! Putin can’t lose!
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_bombing_during_World_War_II
‘Strategic bombing’ was a fashionable idea throughout the 1930s and into the 1940s. It proved to be little else, even when given more than ample opportunities to prove otherwise.
I would recommend that you read ‘The Bomber Mafia’ by Malcolm Gladwell (Little, Brown and Company, 2021) and ‘Strategic Bombing by the United States in World War II: The Myths and the Facts’ (by Stewart Halsey Ross, McFarland & Company , 2002), and that you seek out other titles on the subject, of which there are several.
Almost universally, they point to the failure of strategic bombing to meet its stated objectives, and its lack of value as a military strategy.
In the case of the German bombing of Britain, the campaign singularly failed in its objectives of either eliminating the RAF’s ability to resist, or in destroying overall civilian morale.
In the case of the Allied bombing of Germany, the campaign fell miserably short of curtailing Germany’s war production, In fact, Germany’s war production in many cases reached peaked levels at precisely the times that bombing advocates would have predicted that it should have been shattered:
Example:
!
!
https://www.ww2-weapons.com/german-arms-production/
A multitude of sources indicate that a campaign of ‘strategic bombing’ is likely to be a strategy of last resort, or for those who are bereft of any other means of retaliation against an enemy, whether through circumstance or due to lack of competence elsewhere. And it’s equally indicated that such a strategy is most unlikely to succeed.
Summary: it’s not likely to win the war for you.
But Ukrainians will be forced to wear mittens! Putin can’t lose!
They’ll survive fine without electrical power