Just letting you know that my dad has just been diagnosed with secondary cancer, 3 tumours on the brain and spots on his lungs. For as long as I remember he has only had only one good lung and for the past 2 years that has developed fibrosis (c/- James Hardy Industries). Because of the state of his lungs the doctors say that they will not be able to operate nor will he be able to cope with radio or chemo therapy. So it will just be a matter of pallative care until the time comes. He turns 80 on Wednesday.

Bugger:(

Lucky1 said:

Bugger:(

yeah, you know it’s going to happen some time but never easy when it does.

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

Bugger:(

yeah, you know it’s going to happen some time but never easy when it does.

Sorry to hear that Bluegreen :(
You always hope they go peacefully and at least not in pain.

Oh Bluegreen ……. words can not tell you how I feel after reading this. Our heart and prayers go out to you, your family and your dad……..

How is your mum talking it??? I am gathering theres a mum…..

I’m lost for words. :(

Lucky1 said:

How is your mum talking it??? I am gathering theres a mum…..

yes. they are both feeling very down understandably. But she is the stoic sort.

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

How is your mum talking it??? I am gathering theres a mum…..

yes. they are both feeling very down understandably. But she is the stoic sort.

Good, you’ll all rally round them…its what love and family do.

>So it will just be a matter of pallative care until the time comes. He turns 80 on Wednesday.

Very sad BG. My thoughts are with you.

thanks Collie and everyone. I’m OK at the moment.

Blue such sad news—there are hard times ahead for all of you—my thoughts are with you all :(

It’s very hard when your parents get old – i think i was in a state of loss for a year after my father died. My sympathy. All you can do is look after him as well as possible.

So sorry about your news BG. It’s a very sad and difficult thing to cope with. Palliative care is very good nowadays, they’ll keep him comfortable. ((Hugs))

so sorry to hear this BG. I can uderstand how you must be feeling. I lost my younger brother 3 weeks ago to cancer. In 5 days time he would have been 45.
our thoughts are with you and your family.

My prayers are with you BG :( and also Drylander

drylander1 said:

so sorry to hear this BG. I can uderstand how you must be feeling. I lost my younger brother 3 weeks ago to cancer. In 5 days time he would have been 45.
our thoughts are with you and your family.

thanks drylander. tougher for you I think as 45 is too young.

The Estate said:

My prayers are with you BG :( and also Drylander

thanks, I appreciate your prayers.

in many ways it’s early days yet. we don’t have a time frame and dad is not in any pain. just the shock of the news atm. the hard stuff is yet to come. the big difficulty will be that they live near Port Macquarie – a long way from Melbourne.

I don’t have anything wise or comforting or even sensible to add, so I will just add my sadness to everyone else’s :(:(:(

bon008 said:

I don’t have anything wise or comforting or even sensible to add, so I will just add my sadness to everyone else’s :(:(:(

thanks anyway :)

>I lost my younger brother 3 weeks ago to cancer. In 5 days time he would have been 45.

Oh sorry to hear that DL.

CollieWA said:

>I lost my younger brother 3 weeks ago to cancer. In 5 days time he would have been 45.

Oh sorry to hear that DL.

That’s very sad DL, my sympathy to you and your family.

bon008 said:

I don’t have anything wise or comforting or even sensible to add, so I will just add my sadness to everyone else’s :(:(:(

ditto – difficult to replace the lost of family. sorry to hear your news DL.

What can I add to the long list of well wishers? This insidious disease knows no age barrier. Young or old it doesn’t seem to have a preferance. Be strong BG for your Mum and your Dad.

Sympathies to you as well Drylander.

pomolo said:

What can I add to the long list of well wishers? This insidious disease knows no age barrier. Young or old it doesn’t seem to have a preferance. Be strong BG for your Mum and your Dad.

Sympathies to you as well Drylander.

I can’t put it any better either. Thinking of you BG and Drylander at this sad time.

BG and DL my thoughts are with you, I will make an offering to all four corners of the world for you both.

BG, I hope your Father has a warm and caring 80th Birthday today.

pain master said:

BG, I hope your Father has a warm and caring 80th Birthday today.

thanks PM. I gave them a call and spoke to mum and asked her to give him my love. But he is having trouble communicating as one of the tumours is pressing on the speech/language part so I didn’t get to talk to him.

well the cancer has progressed quite rapidly and dad is not expected to last the week. We were going to fly up to visit him last Thursday but postponed it because of my cold, didn’t want to give it to him not realising how bad he was anyway. Now going up this Thursday but don’t know if we will get to see him before he dies.

bluegreen said:

well the cancer has progressed quite rapidly and dad is not expected to last the week. We were going to fly up to visit him last Thursday but postponed it because of my cold, didn’t want to give it to him not realising how bad he was anyway. Now going up this Thursday but don’t know if we will get to see him before he dies.

Oh BG sorry to hear :( My sympathies.
You can’t get there any sooner ?

bluegreen said:

well the cancer has progressed quite rapidly and dad is not expected to last the week. We were going to fly up to visit him last Thursday but postponed it because of my cold, didn’t want to give it to him not realising how bad he was anyway. Now going up this Thursday but don’t know if we will get to see him before he dies.

how sad, i feel really sorry for you and your family. how old is ur dad?

Happy Potter said:

Oh BG sorry to hear :( My sympathies.
You can’t get there any sooner ?

it has already cost us an extra $200 to delay the flight a week, the cost to bring it forward again may be beyond us. My sister is going up tomorrow however so someone will be with mum one way or another.

veg gardener said:

how sad, i feel really sorry for you and your family. how old is ur dad?

thanks VG. my dad is 80 and if it wasn’t for the cancer would have had a few good years yet.

bluegreen said:

veg gardener said:

how sad, i feel really sorry for you and your family. how old is ur dad?

thanks VG. my dad is 80 and if it wasn’t for the cancer would have had a few good years yet.

yeah my great grandma is 91 she has cancer they said she will live for 6 months and they said it to her face, i thinks thats really mean just saying it to there face, and she loves Gardening.

veg gardener said:

yeah my great grandma is 91 she has cancer they said she will live for 6 months and they said it to her face, i thinks thats really mean just saying it to there face, and she loves Gardening.

some people like to know up front so that they can be better prepared.

bluegreen said:

veg gardener said:

yeah my great grandma is 91 she has cancer they said she will live for 6 months and they said it to her face, i thinks thats really mean just saying it to there face, and she loves Gardening.

some people like to know up front so that they can be better prepared.

yeah lets say ur dad didnt die this week and he kepted on going for a few years, wasted all his money then he has nothing left is he lives longer then think. My great Grandma is looking better. and now she most probly thinks i wont live that long now becuase of the doctor said, do u see where i am coming from?

veg gardener said:

yeah lets say ur dad didnt die this week and he kepted on going for a few years, wasted all his money then he has nothing left is he lives longer then think. My great Grandma is looking better. and now she most probly thinks i wont live that long now becuase of the doctor said, do u see where i am coming from?

I understand VG. And there are a lot of people who live longer than predicted, it is only a guide based on history of other people who had the same thing. But even if my dad doesn’t die this week he won’t live much longer because his body can’t do a lot of things now, he can’t even eat anymore. Mum says he mostly sleeps now. I think one day soon he will just go to sleep and not wake up.

bluegreen said:

veg gardener said:

yeah lets say ur dad didnt die this week and he kepted on going for a few years, wasted all his money then he has nothing left is he lives longer then think. My great Grandma is looking better. and now she most probly thinks i wont live that long now becuase of the doctor said, do u see where i am coming from?

I understand VG. And there are a lot of people who live longer than predicted, it is only a guide based on history of other people who had the same thing. But even if my dad doesn’t die this week he won’t live much longer because his body can’t do a lot of things now, he can’t even eat anymore. Mum says he mostly sleeps now. I think one day soon he will just go to sleep and not wake up.

yep and that day will be sad.

Hey BG. Sounds like a tough time.
Nice to have lots of support though aye.
Gees i hope i get to be 80 one day. Not much hope though. Too much fun in the early years…
My folks are getting to the high 70’s. We had a great Mums day tho, so we’re all happy. Time moves on unfortunately.

my dad has had a full good life in his 80 years and has done a lot of things that many would only dream about.

bluegreen said:

my dad has had a full good life in his 80 years and has done a lot of things that many would only dream about.

Perfect. Hope i can say the same at his age.
Besides that, he brought up a cracker of a daughter ;-)
Priceless innit!

bluegreen said:

well the cancer has progressed quite rapidly and dad is not expected to last the week. We were going to fly up to visit him last Thursday but postponed it because of my cold, didn’t want to give it to him not realising how bad he was anyway. Now going up this Thursday but don’t know if we will get to see him before he dies.

Our thoughts & prayers are with you & your family BG.

Lucky1 said:

Our thoughts & prayers are with you & your family BG.

thanks Lucky

GF and I wish you and your Dad all the best BG, and the truth be known, my nom de plume doesn’t really live up to my nature, and it’s not because I have something in my eye…

Warm wishes.

bluegreen said:

my dad has had a full good life in his 80 years and has done a lot of things that many would only dream about.

That is something to be grateful for at least BG. Still, I’m sorry to hear the bad news and I hope somehow you can get to see him this week. All the best to you all.

sorry to hear that BG.
eighty is a good age – with lots of good memories i’m sure.

So sorry BG. It’s never easy but I do know what you’re going through. I lost both parents within three months of each other.
I’ll be thinking of you.

BG, I will be thinking of you too.

cackles said:

BG, I will be thinking of you too.

thank you cackles, all of you are good support.

I’m so sorry to read your sad news BG, your in my thoughts.

The Estate said:

I’m so sorry to read your sad news BG, your in my thoughts.

thanks Thee.

just a quick visit – dad died early Thursday morning before we got to see him, but I understand he went peacefully and was getting the best of care in the hospital. We are staying up here for the funeral which is monday and then flying home on Tuesday.

Oh sweetie…… (HUGS) to you and your family…..our thoughts and prayers are with you…

My condolence’s Bluegreen. I’m sorry you didn’t get to see him before he died.
((Hugs))

thanks,we did see him in january but that was before anyone knew about the cancer.

Oh I’m so sorry you didn’t make it in time :(
More ((((Hugs))))

orchid40 said:

Oh I’m so sorry you didn’t make it in time :(
More ((((Hugs))))

same.

:(

Sincere condolences to you and your family Bluegreen. Glad to hear that he went peacefully.

So sorry BG. :(

Oh Bluegreen, so sorry to read that sad news :(

sorry to hear of your father’s death BG.

Sorry for your loss BG..

sorry to hear that BG.
my mother (61yo) has been diagnosed with bone cancer this year. still pretty angry about it in some ways, as sand grain size stuff was diagnosed a year earlier, given all clear, with radiotherapy just to be sure. so nearly a year later she was feeling pain/heat in upper back. 3 doctors failed do diagnose anything, with last doctor telling her to do rehab kind excercises. lucky she didn’t do it and went to one more doctor, who sent her for scans and diagnosed bone cancer, as some of the discs were already eaten away…and rehab excercises would have made her into a quadraplegic, she was told. anyway, as it’s a cancer that has spread from another part (the initial tiny grains in breast) there’s no hope remission. with intensive therapy, she may get a few more good years.
my father had quad bypass after heart attack at 45yo, and has had 2 strokes since. the post heart attack pills are depleting his bones…so he had 2 hip replacements. and now it looks like he’s going to be the one who will have to look after mum, instead of the other way round.
got to make the most of life, there’s only one.
a joke i heard/read “don’t take life so seriously…it’s not permanent”.
Anyway….hope your father doesn’t suffer….all the best to you BG

aquarium said:

sorry to hear that BG.
my mother (61yo) has been diagnosed with bone cancer this year. still pretty angry about it in some ways, as sand grain size stuff was diagnosed a year earlier, given all clear, with radiotherapy just to be sure. so nearly a year later she was feeling pain/heat in upper back. 3 doctors failed do diagnose anything, with last doctor telling her to do rehab kind excercises. lucky she didn’t do it and went to one more doctor, who sent her for scans and diagnosed bone cancer, as some of the discs were already eaten away…and rehab excercises would have made her into a quadraplegic, she was told. anyway, as it’s a cancer that has spread from another part (the initial tiny grains in breast) there’s no hope remission. with intensive therapy, she may get a few more good years.
my father had quad bypass after heart attack at 45yo, and has had 2 strokes since. the post heart attack pills are depleting his bones…so he had 2 hip replacements. and now it looks like he’s going to be the one who will have to look after mum, instead of the other way round.
got to make the most of life, there’s only one.
a joke i heard/read “don’t take life so seriously…it’s not permanent”.
Anyway….hope your father doesn’t suffer….all the best to you BG

Sorry to hear that Aqua. Caring for elderly parents isn’t any funs pecially if they are ill. I nursed my father through his cancer till he died. The whole thing scared my children for life.

That crewl, rotten disease…will they never find a cure?

Sorry to read about you folks Aquarium…….

funeral went well this morning. lots of people came and paid their respects and we had a morning tea afterwards at mum’s place. she was very pleased with the service and support of family and friends. One of my sister’s and we will be leaving tomorrow morning but my other sister is staying on a bit longer so mum won’t be left alone all at once. Friends and neighbours have all said they will be looking in on her so she will not be lacking in support once we are gone.

I’m glad it went well, BG. It’s good to know your Mum will have support, it’s a difficult time for her. After all the caring and nursing and worry suddenly there is no focus for it. Very hard to come to terms with. ((Hugs for all your family))

bluegreen said:

funeral went well this morning. lots of people came and paid their respects and we had a morning tea afterwards at mum’s place. she was very pleased with the service and support of family and friends. One of my sister’s and we will be leaving tomorrow morning but my other sister is staying on a bit longer so mum won’t be left alone all at once. Friends and neighbours have all said they will be looking in on her so she will not be lacking in support once we are gone.

I’m glad it all went well, or as well as these things can. You might be surprised how well your Mum kicks back. Our lovely old neighbour thought his life was over when he lost his wife, but now he’s back into bowls and doing lots of things.

Hi BlueGreen

Have just come across this thread…my sympathies to yourself and family on the passing of obviously a fine man…

Regards

Dinetta

condolences to you and your family BG.

my folks are organizing a caravan trip, which may be their last bit of traveling. they were initially going to do a final visit to homeland alas, mum’s treatments and requirement for proper hospital support if needed precluded that. they still get around, as battleworn as they are. i’ve got problems of my own, so luckily i don’t have to physically care for them as well. c’est la vie.

Bluegreen, my heartfelt sympathy for your loss. :(

80 is a great age in anyone’s books, and a full life well-lived is all we can ask for. That, and to go quietly in our sleep as your dad did.

So sorry I wasn’t around at the time to offer my support – only just noticed this thread.

My sympathy to you too Drylander for the loss of your brother. A very hard thing to bear when they are taken too soon. :(

My brother took his own life 12 years ago aged 27. Terribly hard on my dad even though we sort of knew it was coming.

My thoughts are with you BG, Dad is now at peace and in ‘God’s” care.

I pleased to hear your Mum has lots of support, it is afterwards that I think they need more care etc…..

HI bluegreen, I hope the journey you & your family travel on now, is not a hard one…Your dad is in your hearts and watching over you all.

thanks for all your kind words. I think mum will be OK. she is already talking about things she wants to do in the future so that’s a good sign.

bluegreen said:

thanks for all your kind words. I think mum will be OK. she is already talking about things she wants to do in the future so that’s a good sign.

Yes it is :)

Mr BG’s dad died last night – most likely pneumonia. For him however it is a release from years of Parkinsons and dementia. We have felt that he was “gone” a long time ago as when we have visited sometimes he was not really aware we were there, let alone recognise us. Rather than a funeral in a few days, we are going to have a quick cremation (his wishes) and then take his ashes up to Sydney later in the year and have his ashes spread where his wife’s ashes are, and have a get together with his old friends to exchange memories. Most of the people who knew him are in NSW and his other son is overseas. They would not be able to make it to a funeral with short notice so by doing it this way we can maximise the chances of people being able to come.

My condolences to you both BG

bluegreen said:

Mr BG’s dad died last night – most likely pneumonia. For him however it is a release from years of Parkinsons and dementia. We have felt that he was “gone” a long time ago as when we have visited sometimes he was not really aware we were there, let alone recognise us. Rather than a funeral in a few days, we are going to have a quick cremation (his wishes) and then take his ashes up to Sydney later in the year and have his ashes spread where his wife’s ashes are, and have a get together with his old friends to exchange memories. Most of the people who knew him are in NSW and his other son is overseas. They would not be able to make it to a funeral with short notice so by doing it this way we can maximise the chances of people being able to come.

thats now good BG, was it your dad who died earlyer in the year ill keep you and mr bg and his family in my prayers.

The Estate said:

My condolences to you both BG

thanks Thee.

I am so sorry about Mr. BG dad. Sounds like a wonderful idea for later on with his ashes.

(((HUGS)))

Sound’s like a fitting send off. Condolence’s to you all BG.
(((HUGS)))

veg gardener said:

thats now good BG, was it your dad who died earlyer in the year ill keep you and mr bg and his family in my prayers.

yes VG. My dad died only a month ago. Your prayers are appreciated.

Lucky1 said:

I am so sorry about Mr. BG dad. Sounds like a wonderful idea for later on with his ashes.

(((HUGS)))

thanks Lucky. It seemed better than having a funeral with only half a dozen people, when we know so many more would like to pay their respects.

Happy Potter said:

Sound’s like a fitting send off. Condolence’s to you all BG.
(((HUGS)))

thanks HP.

I hope it was peaceful. Hugs to MrBG.

Sad news BG, but a release by the sound of it. ((Hugs))

A death is always sad but perhaps with MrBG’s dad it was a blessing. (((HUGS))) to you both.

Bubba Louie said:

I hope it was peaceful. Hugs to MrBG.

my commiserations to Mr BG too.
Kinda sad about the little funeral but his thoughts and deeds will live on i’m sure.
hugs BG.

pepe said:

Bubba Louie said:

I hope it was peaceful. Hugs to MrBG.

my commiserations to Mr BG too.
Kinda sad about the little funeral but his thoughts and deeds will live on i’m sure.
hugs BG.

we will have a get together of family and friends later to scatter the ashes and have a memorial get together. They are too spread about for most of them to be able to come at short notice and this way people will be able to be a part of saying goodbye. Mr BG’s brother is overseas and says that it will be at least a month for him to save up to come. And he didn’t want a big fuss.

Condolences to your family, BG. Sad news.

we will have a get together of family and friends later to scatter the ashes and have a memorial get together. They are too spread about for most of them to be able to come at short notice and this way people will be able to be a part of saying goodbye. Mr BG’s brother is overseas and says that it will be at least a month for him to save up to come. And he didn’t want a big fuss.
———————————————
after his funeral, my father-in -law’s friends came to drink the last of his scotch. they all gave speeches, which sounds boring, but the speeches were all terrific – very funny and obviously his friendship had been important to them all.
that was ten years ago (about) but i still remember it – so i’m sure when the family returns Mr BG’s life will be remembered fondly.

pepe said:

after his funeral, my father-in -law’s friends came to drink the last of his scotch. they all gave speeches, which sounds boring, but the speeches were all terrific – very funny and obviously his friendship had been important to them all.
that was ten years ago (about) but i still remember it – so i’m sure when the family returns Mr BG’s life will be remembered fondly.

that’s how he wanted it to be. A celebration of his life, not a people being sad.

Mr BG’s life
——
sorry – Mr BG’s fathers life

My dad was rushes to (hospital) ICU again at 4.30 this morning. Rang the hospital and he is resting comfortable and was asleep. Step mum wasn’t there and she wasn’t home when I rang. She may have been walking home when I rang.

It’s so scary when the trip is in the middle of the night.

Lucky1 said:

My dad was rushes to (hospital) ICU again at 4.30 this morning. Rang the hospital and he is resting comfortable and was asleep. Step mum wasn’t there and she wasn’t home when I rang. She may have been walking home when I rang.

It’s so scary when the trip is in the middle of the night.

that’s not good, everyone’s dads or mums are getting sick my mum has a middle ear infection.

Lucky1 said:

My dad was rushes to (hospital) ICU again at 4.30 this morning. Rang the hospital and he is resting comfortable and was asleep. Step mum wasn’t there and she wasn’t home when I rang. She may have been walking home when I rang.

It’s so scary when the trip is in the middle of the night.

Oh gosh Lucky, I hope he’ll be alright. ((Hugs))

orchid40 said:

Lucky1 said:

My dad was rushes to (hospital) ICU again at 4.30 this morning. Rang the hospital and he is resting comfortable and was asleep. Step mum wasn’t there and she wasn’t home when I rang. She may have been walking home when I rang.

It’s so scary when the trip is in the middle of the night.

Oh gosh Lucky, I hope he’ll be alright. ((Hugs))

I hope all goes well too Lucky. Such a worry when a loved one’s not well. (((hugs)))

Lucky1 said:

My dad was rushes to (hospital) ICU again at 4.30 this morning. Rang the hospital and he is resting comfortable and was asleep. Step mum wasn’t there and she wasn’t home when I rang. She may have been walking home when I rang.

It’s so scary when the trip is in the middle of the night.

it’s tough when you are old enough to have to worry about your parents :(

(((HUGS))) for Lucky

My dad is in hospital again…..:(

he had a bad turn for 3/4 hour last night…. scared them on the ward…better today.

Lucky1 said:

My dad is in hospital again…..:(

he had a bad turn for 3/4 hour last night…. scared them on the ward…better today.

(((HUGS))) for Lucky

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

My dad is in hospital again…..:(

he had a bad turn for 3/4 hour last night…. scared them on the ward…better today.

(((HUGS))) for Lucky

Thanks.

Elf asked me if I wanted to go up north and see him again….but my sister is going tomorrow as well as a nephew from Adelaide. Think that will be enough for dad for the time being.

Lucky1 said:

My dad is in hospital again…..:(

he had a bad turn for 3/4 hour last night…. scared them on the ward…better today.

He’s having a rough trot. :(

Bubba Louie said:

Lucky1 said:

My dad is in hospital again…..:(

he had a bad turn for 3/4 hour last night…. scared them on the ward…better today.

He’s having a rough trot. :(

Yes and 1 of his appointments isn’t until Sept in Luckyland:(

It suxs to be told he’s in and out of hospital…..scaring him and stepmum….

Lucky1 said:

My dad is in hospital again…..:(

he had a bad turn for 3/4 hour last night…. scared them on the ward…better today.

Hope all is well Lucky.

Lucky1 said:

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

My dad is in hospital again…..:(

he had a bad turn for 3/4 hour last night…. scared them on the ward…better today.

(((HUGS))) for Lucky

Thanks.

Elf asked me if I wanted to go up north and see him again….but my sister is going tomorrow as well as a nephew from Adelaide. Think that will be enough for dad for the time being.

I hope he comes good and is ok Lucky.
((Hugs))

Sorry to hear your dad is unwell Lucky.
I know how worrying it can be. My mum passed away in 1992 and ‘the Family’ are keeping close tabs on dad. He will be 90 next February.

pomolo said:

Lucky1 said:

My dad is in hospital again…..:(

he had a bad turn for 3/4 hour last night…. scared them on the ward…better today.

Hope all is well Lucky.

Thanks Pomolo……

Thanks HP……

Crinkle said:

Sorry to hear your dad is unwell Lucky.
I know how worrying it can be. My mum passed away in 1992 and ‘the Family’ are keeping close tabs on dad. He will be 90 next February.

Thanks Crinkle.
I really feel for my step mum…..I know what its like to have a scare in the middle of the night and a rush to the hospital.

I hope your Dad gets better soon Lucky.
((Hugs))

orchid40 said:

I hope your Dad gets better soon Lucky.
((Hugs))

Thanks

Lucky1 said:

My dad is in hospital again…..:(

he had a bad turn for 3/4 hour last night…. scared them on the ward…better today.

Oh Lucky – sorry to hear this. It must be a worrying time for all concerned. Thinking of you.

hope he gets better lucky.

veg gardener said:

hope he gets better lucky.

He has improved from what family have been telling me, since they visited him:)

Evening….

Just popping in for a few minutes.

My dad is still in hospital and yesterday he had a stent up into his heart and an angioplasty was done on another artery.

The has 3 chances tomorrow morning to kick start his heart with those paddles to stop a flutter in his heart beat.

I spent last night with him in hospital as he was scared he’d not be able to raise a nurse if he needed one in a hurry.

I have a sore swollen eye as I think I was bitten on my eye……. it looks swollen on the eye lid and bruised. Dad asked me through the night, if I had a black eye…. I KNOW he didn’t hit me;P

Back to the hospital tomorrow morning…. I was there from 7 30 yesterday morning til 3.30 this arvo.

Dad may me a by-pass yet… big pow-wow between all the heart doctors tonight between all 3 hospitals. They meet every Tuesday nigt to talk about their cases.

Sorry about the mixed up in the spelling…… so tired and 1 eyed…….

They can only give dad 3 jolts with the paddles and if this doesn’t fix the flutter…… another road will need to be taken.

Oh yeah, they’ll knock him out (again) before they zip zap him.

Thanks for letting us know – best wishes and hope all goes well. Don’t neglect looking after yourself too, Lucky…

hugs for you and your dad too. it must all be very scary.

cackles said:

Thanks for letting us know – best wishes and hope all goes well. Don’t neglect looking after yourself too, Lucky…

I’m looking after myself…. had a good think about my own health, after seeing what my dad is going through…….. Just ate a whole dish of fruit……. diced……. 2 small bottles of juice today and a bottle of water…….

bluegreen said:

hugs for you and your dad too. it must all be very scary.

It is……. last time I was in this hospital …my mum died….. swore after that… I’d never leave anyone in hospital and turn my back if they were distressed. I’d stayed last night….. as I just couldn’t walk away.

Lucky1 said:

bluegreen said:

hugs for you and your dad too. it must all be very scary.

It is……. last time I was in this hospital …my mum died….. swore after that… I’d never leave anyone in hospital and turn my back if they were distressed. I’d stayed last night….. as I just couldn’t walk away.

You’re a champ, Lucky…

It is very distressing and quite unnerving when it’s a nighttime emergency…it all feels unreal, doesn’t it?

I do hope your father pulls through this…

Going, AWOL for a while…. my dad is staying here at the house….. district nurse will be out daily for “nurse stuff’ be here for about 6 days. He slept right through until 6 am here.

I’ll pop in when I get the time…..

All went well and no by-pass is needed at this time.

The heart paddles de-fib thing worked…..

Thanks, good news, Lucky!

Lucky1 said:

Going, AWOL for a while…. my dad is staying here at the house….. district nurse will be out daily for “nurse stuff’ be here for about 6 days. He slept right through until 6 am here.

I’ll pop in when I get the time…..

All went well and no by-pass is needed at this time.

The heart paddles de-fib thing worked…..

good to hear Lucky.

Lucky1 said:

Going, AWOL for a while…. my dad is staying here at the house….. district nurse will be out daily for “nurse stuff’ be here for about 6 days. He slept right through until 6 am here.

I’ll pop in when I get the time…..

All went well and no by-pass is needed at this time.

The heart paddles de-fib thing worked…..

great news

Lucky1 said:

Going, AWOL for a while…. my dad is staying here at the house….. district nurse will be out daily for “nurse stuff’ be here for about 6 days. He slept right through until 6 am here.

I’ll pop in when I get the time…..

All went well and no by-pass is needed at this time.

The heart paddles de-fib thing worked…..

Oh that’s good news – I wish your Dad a speedy recovery. Look after yourself too!

Lucky1 said:

Going, AWOL for a while…. my dad is staying here at the house….. district nurse will be out daily for “nurse stuff’ be here for about 6 days. He slept right through until 6 am here.

I’ll pop in when I get the time…..

All went well and no by-pass is needed at this time.

The heart paddles de-fib thing worked…..

Hey good to hear lucky, I hope things continue to improve :)

Popped Dad & Betty on the bus……and now home for the day……

Now that I’ve found the right thread to post family stuff in..

First family drama.

The afternoon events however , wiped my smile right off. To do with Giant Son, and we have an appointment later today to see his ‘big’ paed ( the ‘little’ paed writes his repeat scripts and sees him fortnightly for day to day health, ‘the big’ paed is a professor of psychiatry pediatric sciences with a doz letters after his name,and he’s the one we need to see this time around)

This fellow is about to implore us to relinquish guardianship of GS .. because no matter who does what,, his behavious remain dangerous, at times, and he will be 17 next month. When he is 18 he is auto returned home to us. And we can’t cope when he kicks off. The paed is saying GS’s rages , where he loses all control and attacks people (me mainly), might be psychosis related, as he doesn’t remember what he’s done ect. To relinquish guardianship means he will stay in care for life.

The doc just ripped our hearts out. But we understand his reasoning.

2nd family drama. ( the more kids you have the more dramas you get )

Middle daughter , the engaged glamour 22 yo girl, has to have an open chest operation for an artery bypass.

This ‘abnormal right sub clavian artery’ goes in the wrong direction , it was picked up when she was a toddler and we were told she would have to get it fixed when she is an adult, and before she ever has children of her own. The artery is supposed to come out of her heart and do a U turn into her body, instead this one goes up too high into her neck, twists around her gullet twice then branches off into her left arm.
If she puts her head right back , you can see the fat blue lumps across her neck.
So she has a ct scan referral and I will visit the surgeon with her when we make that appt.

I might spend the day talking to the chooks….

I am really feeling for you HP, so much on your plate. The guardianship issue with GS is heartbreaking but might be best in the end. A previous employee where I work had to “commit” her own daughter as she was a danger to herself or others and the mum believed if she didn’t too this then one day someone would be killed. She had to fight for it herself though so you can imagine what she must have gone through. He will still be your son, no matter who has guardianship.

And I pray all will go well with middle daughter’s operation.

Lots of ((((HUGS))))

BG- Lots of ((((HUGS))))

Thanks for hugs BG , they’re appreciated. I can understand that mums actions completely.
The doc said issue this is nessesary for GS to ramain in care for life, it also means previous services unavailable to him will then accept him.
All this will happen over the next several months anyway , so we have time to mull over it.

bluegreen said:

I am really feeling for you HP, so much on your plate. The guardianship issue with GS is heartbreaking but might be best in the end. A previous employee where I work had to “commit” her own daughter as she was a danger to herself or others and the mum believed if she didn’t too this then one day someone would be killed. She had to fight for it herself though so you can imagine what she must have gone through. He will still be your son, no matter who has guardianship.

And I pray all will go well with middle daughter’s operation.

Lots of ((((HUGS))))

I second everything that BG said, HP. It’s a tough time for you again so hang in there kid. ((Hugs))

I might spend the day talking to the chooks….

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Oh HP I wish I could come talk to your chooks with you. My troubles pale into insignifigance compared to yours but I feel crappy today as well.

Eldest son has started having panic attacks and wont go to work.

Youngest son’s OCD is back with a vengence and I think I might just run away. Want to join me. :(

bubba louie said:

I might spend the day talking to the chooks….

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Oh HP I wish I could come talk to your chooks with you. My troubles pale into insignifigance compared to yours but I feel crappy today as well.

Eldest son has started having panic attacks and wont go to work.

Youngest son’s OCD is back with a vengence and I think I might just run away. Want to join me. :(

I’m just soooo tired of caring for people. I feel like my life will never be my own again, and my dream of MrBL and I living alone in the bush seems more and more distant.

Sorry for off loading all this, I don’t usually, but today has me feeling rather despondent.

BL and HP, if i win tatslotto this week i’m sending you and your partners for a weeks holiday to some remote island that has no phone service.

I thought i had things tough a week ago when our 27 month old boy was in hospital for 2 days, thats nothing to what you poor buggers are going through. I hope everything gets a lot better for you and your family’s soon.

Rook

bubba louie said:

I might spend the day talking to the chooks….

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Oh HP I wish I could come talk to your chooks with you. My troubles pale into insignifigance compared to yours but I feel crappy today as well.

Eldest son has started having panic attacks and wont go to work.

Youngest son’s OCD is back with a vengence and I think I might just run away. Want to join me. :(

Aw BL thats tough on ones so young :( And yous.. ((((hugs))))
I hope they both get the right treament for anxieties. I havent eaten because everytime I do I throw up..it’s extreme anxiety too , But I’ll be fine.
I sure know what panic attack disorder feels like.
I’ll join you no worries.

They say Mars has water……

Happy Potter said:

bubba louie said:

I might spend the day talking to the chooks….

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Oh HP I wish I could come talk to your chooks with you. My troubles pale into insignifigance compared to yours but I feel crappy today as well.

Eldest son has started having panic attacks and wont go to work.

Youngest son’s OCD is back with a vengence and I think I might just run away. Want to join me. :(

Aw BL thats tough on ones so young :( And yous.. ((((hugs))))
I hope they both get the right treament for anxieties. I havent eaten because everytime I do I throw up..it’s extreme anxiety too , But I’ll be fine.
I sure know what panic attack disorder feels like.
I’ll join you no worries.

They say Mars has water……

They’re both seeing the best people available but it takes some effort on their part as well and they’re not really stepping up.

Rook said:

BL and HP, if i win tatslotto this week i’m sending you and your partners for a weeks holiday to some remote island that has no phone service.

I thought i had things tough a week ago when our 27 month old boy was in hospital for 2 days, thats nothing to what you poor buggers are going through. I hope everything gets a lot better for you and your family’s soon.

Rook

I hope he is ok Rook!

The no phone thing sounds good..tatts would only buy me a ship to forever cruise the seas.
What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger eh. That’s how the story is supposed to go anyway.

Rook said:

BL and HP, if i win tatslotto this week i’m sending you and your partners for a weeks holiday to some remote island that has no phone service.

I thought i had things tough a week ago when our 27 month old boy was in hospital for 2 days, thats nothing to what you poor buggers are going through. I hope everything gets a lot better for you and your family’s soon.

Rook

Nice thought Rook but we couldn’t leave them anyway. I’m trapped.

These problems run in my family but I consulted specialists before I got pregnant and they all agreed it was no reason not to have kids.
Sometimes I’m not so sure.

bubba louie said:

bubba louie said:

I might spend the day talking to the chooks….

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Oh HP I wish I could come talk to your chooks with you. My troubles pale into insignifigance compared to yours but I feel crappy today as well.

Eldest son has started having panic attacks and wont go to work.

Youngest son’s OCD is back with a vengence and I think I might just run away. Want to join me. :(

I’m just soooo tired of caring for people. I feel like my life will never be my own again, and my dream of MrBL and I living alone in the bush seems more and more distant.

Sorry for off loading all this, I don’t usually, but today has me feeling rather despondent.

lots of (((HUGS))) for bubba louie too

“They’re both seeing the best people available but it takes some effort on their part as well and they’re not really stepping up.”

Only advice I can possibly give is to head on face those bloody panics and talk to ‘it’ like it’s a thing.
I told ‘it’ hurry up and get the hell over with it because I’m bloody busy and need to do stuff , in angry thoughts.
After 4 years of the wretched things, this was the only thing that worked, to let ‘it ‘ know it wasn’t going to stop me.

bluegreen said:

bubba louie said:

bubba louie said:

I might spend the day talking to the chooks….

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Oh HP I wish I could come talk to your chooks with you. My troubles pale into insignifigance compared to yours but I feel crappy today as well.

Eldest son has started having panic attacks and wont go to work.

Youngest son’s OCD is back with a vengence and I think I might just run away. Want to join me. :(

I’m just soooo tired of caring for people. I feel like my life will never be my own again, and my dream of MrBL and I living alone in the bush seems more and more distant.

Sorry for off loading all this, I don’t usually, but today has me feeling rather despondent.

lots of (((HUGS))) for bubba louie too

Thanks BG.
I’ll be OK, I’m spending the day closeted in my room with the laptop and the TV. :)

I really should be taking Timmy to the vet, he’s off his food again and has a touch of the trots, but he’ll just have to wait. I couldn’t stand anymore complications ATM. He’s not really sick or I would take him, it’s just his old problem and I’ve made an appointment for thursay.

today i’m being an ostrich. LOL

bubba louie said:

Thanks BG.
I’ll be OK, I’m spending the day closeted in my room with the laptop and the TV. :)

it’s an age-old problem. Who cares for the carers? It is beyond any one person to be there 24/7 no matter how much they would want to.

Happy Potter said:

“They’re both seeing the best people available but it takes some effort on their part as well and they’re not really stepping up.”

Only advice I can possibly give is to head on face those bloody panics and talk to ‘it’ like it’s a thing.
I told ‘it’ hurry up and get the hell over with it because I’m bloody busy and need to do stuff , in angry thoughts.
After 4 years of the wretched things, this was the only thing that worked, to let ‘it ‘ know it wasn’t going to stop me.

That’s what we’ve told him, the doc told him the same thing over the phone this morning too but he still wouldn’t go.

He’s promised he’ll get back in the saddle tomorrow. He’s just bluddy better, I’ve run out of excuses to cover for him with the managers.

one of the staff here suffered badly from panic attacks. her doctor put her on some new antidepressants and the transformation was amazing. The person I thought was quiet and shy was really a bright and bubbly personality. I wanted to ask her what she was on ‘cause I wanted some too!!!

bluegreen said:

one of the staff here suffered badly from panic attacks. her doctor put her on some new antidepressants and the transformation was amazing. The person I thought was quiet and shy was really a bright and bubbly personality. I wanted to ask her what she was on ‘cause I wanted some too!!!

Me too LOL

Oh HP…… I am just about in tears for you and your family. How hard it must be for you to wake up each day. I admire you so much for what you do each day. You and Hubby are a special family… your children are included in this.

May as well chuck my family stuff out to …..

The heart shock my dad had late last month…didn’t work. So he & Betty are down next week on Wednesday (bus on Tuesday) and have more tests. Not sure if they will stay here or at my brothers…. My dad could very well need open heart surgery. Dad said it won’t be key hole either and when his brother in law had this done, he was in hospital for 2 weeks.

When my dad rang he sounded scared and disappointed., Must have been hard for him to ring all the kids about it and repeat the same news over and over.

bubba louie said:

I might spend the day talking to the chooks….

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Oh HP I wish I could come talk to your chooks with you. My troubles pale into insignifigance compared to yours but I feel crappy today as well.

Eldest son has started having panic attacks and wont go to work.

Youngest son’s OCD is back with a vengence and I think I might just run away. Want to join me. :(

HUGS to you as well Bubba…….

Certainly puts my problems into perspective too :(

I wonder about the same thing bubba – I inherited anxiety problems from my dad, and I do feel guilty about passing it on to another generation. I guess I’m lucky it hasn’t been too bad for me – I think in the end it will have made me a stronger person, and it’s certainly one of the reasons I’m so close to my dad, so I don’t think it will put me off having kids.

However I am going to have to make sure that when I do have kids, I’m not worrying so much about these things that that’s the reason they end up picking it up!

I hope your sons are feeling better soon.

hugs for HP and Lucky. You guys are inspirational, I don’t know how you do it.

I’m just soooo tired of caring for people. I feel like my life will never be my own again, and my dream of MrBL and I living alone in the bush seems more and more distant.

Sorry for off loading all this, I don’t usually, but today has me feeling rather despondent.
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Hey kiddo…know where your coming from.

My life….

Single girl working….
efl’s girlfriend
elf’s wife
Bimbo & Jimbob’s mum
cleaning lady
elf’s carer

There are days where I could scream when the elf gets sick and I am so short of time for doing everything, while worrying about him. But at the same time I know its not his fault.

So I am a carer and the way I see it… this is an important job and I do this job with all my love, understanding and patience I can find from within myself. So much needed at times to go into planning when we go out…. so many shops he can’t go into, so I don’t. He doesn’t mind waiting outside…. but it’s not the same if we were both in the shop looking together.

My garden and knitting is now my time out away from the elf……

But at the same time I wouldn’t change my life for all the $$$$ in the world (way thats going of late…not much to give me anyway;P) I have 1.5 wonderful children…… a hubby who is still at home and breathing…… and loves of vegies and animals….. what else does a nut like me need???:D

Rook said:

BL and HP, if i win tatslotto this week i’m sending you and your partners for a weeks holiday to some remote island that has no phone service.

I thought i had things tough a week ago when our 27 month old boy was in hospital for 2 days, thats nothing to what you poor buggers are going through. I hope everything gets a lot better for you and your family’s soon.

Rook

Rook…… with families more so children….. tiny that they are, in your own space…life can be very tough. Just that out there, someone is always worse off.

today i’m being an ostrich. LOL
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I have days like that too……. when everyone can cope with me out for the day……lol

hugs for HP and Lucky. You guys are inspirational, I don’t know how you do it.
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Thanks Bon……. For me its love….. you know the other day Bimbo said she has found the same love elf and I have with Benny…….. how sweet is that????

1. son is a farmer….out sowing so many oats…… one day he’s gonna fail into a drought…..hope he’s using pesticides too.

Strike a light, maybe we carers and parents and anyone who wants to vent , should go on Jerry Springer show. You can throw stuff!
We could throw tomatoes !!!
hehe…

Happy Potter said:

Strike a light, maybe we carers and parents and anyone who wants to vent , should go on Jerry Springer show. You can throw stuff!
We could throw tomatoes !!!
hehe…

I’d throw parsnips….. they have pointy ends….LOL

bubba louie said:

I might spend the day talking to the chooks….

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Oh HP I wish I could come talk to your chooks with you. My troubles pale into insignifigance compared to yours but I feel crappy today as well.

Eldest son has started having panic attacks and wont go to work.

Youngest son’s OCD is back with a vengence and I think I might just run away. Want to join me. :(

((((Hugs))) for Bubba

Oh Oh Oh… just when I thought I’d had a tough day, emotions all over the place..and I decided a quiet night in bed in front of the TV was in order.
Just as well I was lying down..
I was watching ‘Find My Family’ show on ch# 7 and this young girl Karen was about to get married wanted to find her father so he could walk her down the aisle , and he, Fred, was found.. and he said he wanted to find his daughter too and was in fact about to remarry himself..
To my sister …whom I haven’t seen in more than 20 years OMG !!!
I saw her kids, who I’ve never met….her baby grandson..

Oh this is too too much. I need a stiff drink.
I’ll have to settle for a double shot of sustagen…

Happy Potter said:

Oh Oh Oh… just when I thought I’d had a tough day, emotions all over the place..and I decided a quiet night in bed in front of the TV was in order.
Just as well I was lying down..
I was watching ‘Find My Family’ show on ch# 7 and this young girl Karen was about to get married wanted to find her father so he could walk her down the aisle , and he, Fred, was found.. and he said he wanted to find his daughter too and was in fact about to remarry himself..
To my sister …whom I haven’t seen in more than 20 years OMG !!!
I saw her kids, who I’ve never met….her baby grandson..

Oh this is too too much. I need a stiff drink.
I’ll have to settle for a double shot of sustagen…

OMG! what a way to end the day! methinks you are not going to get much sleep tonight! Maybe if you ring ch 7 they could do a follow up and get you back in touch with your sister and her family (assuming that is something you would want to do???)

“OMG! what a way to end the day! methinks you are not going to get much sleep tonight! Maybe if you ring ch 7 they could do a follow up and get you back in touch with your sister and her family (assuming that is something you would want to do???)”

Hubbys telling me to stop running about and sit down still lol..
No at the moment I wont be contacting anyone, too much going on here..but I will.

I will sleep , hubbys going to his night shift soon , wholeeee bed to myself, and I’m ready to hit my pillow, I’m mentally exhausted..

Happy Potter said:

I’m mentally exhausted..

I bet! Do you mind me asking how come you lost contact?

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

I’m mentally exhausted..

I bet! Do you mind me asking how come you lost contact?

She had a row with our mum and she took off..she had a 5 month old baby girl who died of cot death not long before and was understadably grieving , abusing everyone …and I was busy with little kids. I , and other sisters , were trying to find her years ago but without success. I can barely believe this lol.

Happy Potter said:

Oh Oh Oh… just when I thought I’d had a tough day, emotions all over the place..and I decided a quiet night in bed in front of the TV was in order.
Just as well I was lying down..
I was watching ‘Find My Family’ show on ch# 7 and this young girl Karen was about to get married wanted to find her father so he could walk her down the aisle , and he, Fred, was found.. and he said he wanted to find his daughter too and was in fact about to remarry himself..
To my sister …whom I haven’t seen in more than 20 years OMG !!!
I saw her kids, who I’ve never met….her baby grandson..

Oh this is too too much. I need a stiff drink.
I’ll have to settle for a double shot of sustagen…

Well, so much for vegging in front of the idiot box! Maybe you should stick to DVD if you want to destress your day ;)

Happy Potter said:

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

I’m mentally exhausted..

I bet! Do you mind me asking how come you lost contact?

She had a row with our mum and she took off..she had a 5 month old baby girl who died of cot death not long before and was understadably grieving , abusing everyone …and I was busy with little kids. I , and other sisters , were trying to find her years ago but without success. I can barely believe this lol.

sounds like a lot of water under the bridge to deal with. I really hope that sometime soon you will have a happy and healing reunion.

“sounds like a lot of water under the bridge to deal with. I really hope that sometime soon you will have a happy and healing reunion.”

Thanks BG :)
If we met up , we wouldn’t sleep for a week with all we have to catch up with.

And SueBK, that is a bloody good idea lol.

I went outside to wait for my dog Max go off and circle the lawn to scearch for his preferred pee pee spot and there was a beautiful smell about.. magnolia in full bloom :)
Oh wonderful therapy is the gorgeous scent of the magnolia flower :D

Happy Potter said:

Oh wonderful therapy is the gorgeous scent of the magnolia flower :D

beautiful :)

you take care HP. with everything that is going on we don’t want you collapsing in a heap. Make sure you are looking after yourself please.

Happy Potter said:

Oh Oh Oh… just when I thought I’d had a tough day, emotions all over the place..and I decided a quiet night in bed in front of the TV was in order.
Just as well I was lying down..
I was watching ‘Find My Family’ show on ch# 7 and this young girl Karen was about to get married wanted to find her father so he could walk her down the aisle , and he, Fred, was found.. and he said he wanted to find his daughter too and was in fact about to remarry himself..
To my sister …whom I haven’t seen in more than 20 years OMG !!!
I saw her kids, who I’ve never met….her baby grandson..

Oh this is too too much. I need a stiff drink.
I’ll have to settle for a double shot of sustagen…

WOW! o.O

“you take care HP. with everything that is going on we don’t want you collapsing in a heap. Make sure you are looking after yourself please.”

Thank you sweetie , I definately will , I do know my limits and I’m just about there.
I’ve wiped my calendar clean, doing nothing at all for the next week and I shall be relaxing, catching up on eating and doing what I want.
I’m going to get half a mil out of the lap band so I can eat more, tomorrow morning.

Happy Potter said:

“you take care HP. with everything that is going on we don’t want you collapsing in a heap. Make sure you are looking after yourself please.”

Thank you sweetie , I definately will , I do know my limits and I’m just about there.
I’ve wiped my calendar clean, doing nothing at all for the next week and I shall be relaxing, catching up on eating and doing what I want.
I’m going to get half a mil out of the lap band so I can eat more, tomorrow morning.

good girl :)

I’m lost for words!!!!!!

OMG! Unbelievable!!!

Boy what a day we have had here. Just arrived home from our local hospital. Just after midday I had to call an ambulance for Pat. He’s not good at all:(

They have him on insulin by a needle in his arm and this will stay like that overnight so far.

Those steroids he has been on since Sunday last week have made his sugar go to 26 and then when he started this god awful asthma attack, it just wouldn’t stop. I was on the phone to a 000 lady, while I was wiping all the sweat from his body and keeping his calm as it was happening. This asthma attack was so different to his others.

Nephew in law picked me up from the hospital as the kids had appointments book for wedding and stuff. I’ll get up early tomorrow and wash the back room floors and get his bag ready and catch a bus to the hospital. I’ll take some embroidery with me as I’ll be there all day. Don’t know how long he’ll be in hospital.

Lucky1 said:

Boy what a day we have had here. Just arrived home from our local hospital. Just after midday I had to call an ambulance for Pat. He’s not good at all:(

They have him on insulin by a needle in his arm and this will stay like that overnight so far.

Those steroids he has been on since Sunday last week have made his sugar go to 26 and then when he started this god awful asthma attack, it just wouldn’t stop. I was on the phone to a 000 lady, while I was wiping all the sweat from his body and keeping his calm as it was happening. This asthma attack was so different to his others.

Nephew in law picked me up from the hospital as the kids had appointments book for wedding and stuff. I’ll get up early tomorrow and wash the back room floors and get his bag ready and catch a bus to the hospital. I’ll take some embroidery with me as I’ll be there all day. Don’t know how long he’ll be in hospital.

:(

I hope he’s better soon.

:( You’re both in our thoughts, Lucky.

Lucky1 said:

Boy what a day we have had here. Just arrived home from our local hospital. Just after midday I had to call an ambulance for Pat. He’s not good at all:(

They have him on insulin by a needle in his arm and this will stay like that overnight so far.

Those steroids he has been on since Sunday last week have made his sugar go to 26 and then when he started this god awful asthma attack, it just wouldn’t stop. I was on the phone to a 000 lady, while I was wiping all the sweat from his body and keeping his calm as it was happening. This asthma attack was so different to his others.

Nephew in law picked me up from the hospital as the kids had appointments book for wedding and stuff. I’ll get up early tomorrow and wash the back room floors and get his bag ready and catch a bus to the hospital. I’ll take some embroidery with me as I’ll be there all day. Don’t know how long he’ll be in hospital.

Hugs to you Lucky1. Thank heavens Elf is in the hospital where they can take special care of him. Living on the edge of a volcano isn’t any fun for you both.

Thanks everyone, had that bludge this arvo….as I sat next to his bed and didn’t move.

No chest infection or phenomena either.

I need a shower and some tea.

Update you tomorrow evening.

bon008 said:

:( You’re both in our thoughts, Lucky.

Ours too.
Such a worry for yous. Elf’s got you though, and he’s in the right place.

Sorry to hear your news Lucky. You are in my prayers kiddo. ((hugs))

Lucky1 said:

Boy what a day we have had here. Just arrived home from our local hospital. Just after midday I had to call an ambulance for Pat. He’s not good at all:(

They have him on insulin by a needle in his arm and this will stay like that overnight so far.

Those steroids he has been on since Sunday last week have made his sugar go to 26 and then when he started this god awful asthma attack, it just wouldn’t stop. I was on the phone to a 000 lady, while I was wiping all the sweat from his body and keeping his calm as it was happening. This asthma attack was so different to his others.

Nephew in law picked me up from the hospital as the kids had appointments book for wedding and stuff. I’ll get up early tomorrow and wash the back room floors and get his bag ready and catch a bus to the hospital. I’ll take some embroidery with me as I’ll be there all day. Don’t know how long he’ll be in hospital.

oh no! (((HUGS))) for you and get well wishes for the Elf :(

>Don’t know how long he’ll be in hospital.

Oh take care f him Lucky, but remember to take care of yourself too!

Thanks everyone.

Just rang the hospital and he’s in a ward now. That happened about 1 am this morning. He sounds very tired as they had to check his sugars hourly cos’ of the insulin going into his arm neat.

I was up at 6.30 had a shower, a packed a bag for him.

Beauty piece of toast has just shot out of the toaster. also I am hard boiling an egg for my lunch. That in a sandwich and some tin fruit in a tupperware dish will stave of the hunger pans until I get home.

I only popped the ‘puter on for family emails.

Slept okay…went to sleep after midnight and woke at 3 am after a fashion I went back to sleep until the alarm went off.

Stuff washing the floor this morning, will try tonight instead as I needed to get that bag packed.

Anyway have a FAB TAB of a Saturday & I’ll update you tonight on what is happening with the elf…..

Lucky1 said:

Thanks everyone.

Just rang the hospital and he’s in a ward now. That happened about 1 am this morning. He sounds very tired as they had to check his sugars hourly cos’ of the insulin going into his arm neat.

I was up at 6.30 had a shower, a packed a bag for him.

Beauty piece of toast has just shot out of the toaster. also I am hard boiling an egg for my lunch. That in a sandwich and some tin fruit in a tupperware dish will stave of the hunger pans until I get home.

I only popped the ‘puter on for family emails.

Slept okay…went to sleep after midnight and woke at 3 am after a fashion I went back to sleep until the alarm went off.

Stuff washing the floor this morning, will try tonight instead as I needed to get that bag packed.

Anyway have a FAB TAB of a Saturday & I’ll update you tonight on what is happening with the elf…..

Take care Lucky.
Get better Elf!

:(

We hope the Elf is okay.

Tired tonight….he’ll be in hospital for 3 or 4 days at the moment. Looking better than what he did when I left him last night.

Just cooking my tea now.

Lucky1 said:

Tired tonight….he’ll be in hospital for 3 or 4 days at the moment.

poor Elf, poor Lucky. Glad he is looking better though.

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

Tired tonight….he’ll be in hospital for 3 or 4 days at the moment.

poor Elf, poor Lucky. Glad he is looking better though.

HI sweetie:0) Yes me too. Going to be a long haul back up to his old self though. But hey he’s got the best person on the job. Hope he sleeps better tonight, he is having his sugar taken hourly and then poked with a needle if needed with insulin in it.

Lucky1 said:

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

Tired tonight….he’ll be in hospital for 3 or 4 days at the moment.

poor Elf, poor Lucky. Glad he is looking better though.

HI sweetie:0) Yes me too. Going to be a long haul back up to his old self though. But hey he’s got the best person on the job. Hope he sleeps better tonight, he is having his sugar taken hourly and then poked with a needle if needed with insulin in it.

:(

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

bluegreen said:

poor Elf, poor Lucky. Glad he is looking better though.

HI sweetie:0) Yes me too. Going to be a long haul back up to his old self though. But hey he’s got the best person on the job. Hope he sleeps better tonight, he is having his sugar taken hourly and then poked with a needle if needed with insulin in it.

:(

Now don’t be like that…. it could have been much worse… so smile hunny cos’ I am:D

Lucky1 said:

Tired tonight….he’ll be in hospital for 3 or 4 days at the moment. Looking better than what he did when I left him last night.

Just cooking my tea now.

Glad there is some improvement Lucky. Get your rest if you can. It can be very tiring going to and from the hospital every day.

pomolo said:

Lucky1 said:

Tired tonight….he’ll be in hospital for 3 or 4 days at the moment. Looking better than what he did when I left him last night.

Just cooking my tea now.

Glad there is some improvement Lucky. Get your rest if you can. It can be very tiring going to and from the hospital every day.

Thanks Pomolo:)

Lucky1 said:

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

HI sweetie:0) Yes me too. Going to be a long haul back up to his old self though. But hey he’s got the best person on the job. Hope he sleeps better tonight, he is having his sugar taken hourly and then poked with a needle if needed with insulin in it.

:(

Now don’t be like that…. it could have been much worse… so smile hunny cos’ I am:D

OK :)

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

bluegreen said:

:(

Now don’t be like that…. it could have been much worse… so smile hunny cos’ I am:D

OK :)

Much better,,,,,,:)

Now I have gotta do these dishes…I’m outta here:)

Lucky1 said:

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

Tired tonight….he’ll be in hospital for 3 or 4 days at the moment.

poor Elf, poor Lucky. Glad he is looking better though.

HI sweetie:0) Yes me too. Going to be a long haul back up to his old self though. But hey he’s got the best person on the job. Hope he sleeps better tonight, he is having his sugar taken hourly and then poked with a needle if needed with insulin in it.

At least you know he’s in good hands and you can take time to rest up for when he comes home.

HI sweetie:0) Yes me too. Going to be a long haul back up to his old self though. But hey he’s got the best person on the job. Hope he sleeps better tonight, he is having his sugar taken hourly and then poked with a needle if needed with insulin in it.
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Glad he is improving Lucky!

There was a fella where I worked today (this occurred a couple of weeks ago when I wasn’t there) who collapsed from a diabetic attack. His BSL was 1.7. He was woozing into and out of consciousness. He was rushed to hospital.

The correct treatment would have been to rub the sugar stuff (glucodin I think it is called) onto the inside of his cheeks, give oxygen, and a can of Fanta when he became conscious. Then give him a solid sandwich for some slow sugar. THEN take him to hospital.

Fanta has the highest sugar content of all the soft drinks. More than coke! I didn’t know that until my medic course.

Lucky1 said:

Tired tonight….he’ll be in hospital for 3 or 4 days at the moment. Looking better than what he did when I left him last night.

Just cooking my tea now.

I hope you are resting well now Lucky. Our thoughts are with you and the Elf.

Lucky1 said:

Tired tonight….he’ll be in hospital for 3 or 4 days at the moment. Looking better than what he did when I left him last night.

Just cooking my tea now.

Glad he’s resting and improving Lucky.

CollieWA said:

There was a fella where I worked today (this occurred a couple of weeks ago when I wasn’t there) who collapsed from a diabetic attack. His BSL was 1.7. He was woozing into and out of consciousness. He was rushed to hospital.

The correct treatment would have been to rub the sugar stuff (glucodin I think it is called) onto the inside of his cheeks, give oxygen, and a can of Fanta when he became conscious. Then give him a solid sandwich for some slow sugar. THEN take him to hospital.

Fanta has the highest sugar content of all the soft drinks. More than coke! I didn’t know that until my medic course.

Condensed milk in a tube is easy to get into a persons mouth in a hypoglycemic attack. Even on a tightly clenched mouth, it can be squeezed into the side their lip.

My nephew and his wife were down from Port Pirie for the weekend. Sam’s water broke yesterday morning and last night at 11.30 she gave birth to a little girl…3 weeks early.

Rachel May was meant to be born in Port Pirie……lol 3 weeks early just like her dad was. 7lb 3 oz

Lucky1 said:

My nephew and his wife were down from Port Pirie for the weekend. Sam’s water broke yesterday morning and last night at 11.30 she gave birth to a little girl…3 weeks early.

Rachel May was meant to be born in Port Pirie……lol 3 weeks early just like her dad was. 7lb 3 oz

:)

Lucky1 said:

My nephew and his wife were down from Port Pirie for the weekend. Sam’s water broke yesterday morning and last night at 11.30 she gave birth to a little girl…3 weeks early.

Rachel May was meant to be born in Port Pirie……lol 3 weeks early just like her dad was. 7lb 3 oz

Nice name, weight’s not bad either…I shudder when they’re down in the 6 lb region…I should imagine that at 3 weeks early there’d be minimal problems with the baby…?

bubba louie said:

Lucky1 said:

My nephew and his wife were down from Port Pirie for the weekend. Sam’s water broke yesterday morning and last night at 11.30 she gave birth to a little girl…3 weeks early.

Rachel May was meant to be born in Port Pirie……lol 3 weeks early just like her dad was. 7lb 3 oz

:)

at that weight I thinks she was cooked enough LOL

MrBL’s nephew and his wife are in India so I thought, if like us, you experience travel secondhand, this might be interesting. I’ve taken out names and personal stuff. We’ll all be glad when they get home because of the terrorist risk ATM.

We are in India! It’s filthy, smelly and filled with piles of rubbish and slums. No effective garbage system here so there are just piles of rubbish everywhere that the stray dogs, cows and wild pigs (yes, wild pigs in the city, they look like the one that killed that woman in the Thunderbirds movie) eat out of constantly. Unless you’re in a Commonwelath game zone, you cannot turn around 360 degrees without seeing a slum or shanty. One tour guide tried to call them ‘a convienent, cheap lean-to for people to occasionally shelter in’ but they are definitely slum towns. First sight we saw of Delhi after we left the airport was a slum town and I think it sums up this place. I will kiss the ground when I get home and we will never whinge about Australian health, education or infrastructure ever again. India is such a land of contrasts because there is usually a sight of huge opulance next to or across from the slums.

It’s been really interesting and very educational and mostly very sad. XXX and I both think it is the most depressing holiday we’ve ever been on. To see how some people survive on so little is so sad. There are children without limbs who run or hop alongside your car begging for anything and pointing to any food you have in your car. They either beg by holding their hands out or touching their tummies and their mouths with huge, sad, imploring eyes. The hotel asks you not to give any money to them as (this is unbelieveable) sometimes parents cut a limb off a child because they know it increases their begging successfulness and the child gives all their money to the parents. Giving them cash may encourage other parents to do the same thing. Often you see a mum or dad holding a child the same size as XXX and they look so happy and peaceful it makes me cry wondering what type of future they will have. 4000 children a day die in India because of water borne diseases. We have seen people washing themselves and plates etc in the town drinking water well, contaminating the water, and we saw someone fill a water bottle from a different tank that looked like off, curdled milk. He just drank straight from it like that was normal. There’s been an advertising campaign here for slum women to bottle feed their children because it “is better for them” and lots of mothers have taken it up. When I look at the water they’d be mixing the formula with, I shudder. We feel so guilty for having so much and for some days not even thinking what we have is a lot. It is an incredible place, for so many different reasons.

We have driven all over India which everyone here finds amazing. It has been very intense but XXX has done an amazing job (as always). It’s always like driving in Sydney peak hour, but no one obeys any road rules (frankly, we don’t know if that’s because they actually don’t have any!) and everyone’s car is practically always touching. The land lines on the road are seen as ‘decorational’!!!!! by the locals, as well as the pedestrian crossings. There’s been no education about them, suddenly they were just on the roads so the ppl think they’re for looks!!!!! We drove across a bridge that was 3 lanes wide but there were always 5 lanes of traffic across! The motorbikes are amazing, they fit in any space any where and are amazing drivers. None of them wear any safety gear, but they always carry a helmet- yes, not wear one, just carry! Maybe if it looks dangerous, they’ll put it on. Everybody honks for everything- I’m passing you, I’m here. Honking is friendly! XXX loves honking but we hardly ever get to in Australia. He had a ball and nearly wore the horn out. We will remember India as the city of honking! Haven’t seen any road rage here or seen one accident either. Indians are excellent drivers. We got caught down a lane once which was getting smaller and smaller and suddenly there was a big truck! The locals moved us over, pushed our mirrors in and the trucks and got us both through by about 3 cms. The local Indians have been so friendly and helpful with directions-but no one will let us fill up our car tyres with air. We can’t figure it out.

I did make a slight navigational boo boo the first day when I took us about 2 hours (50 kms) down the correct road to Agra, but however in the wrong direction. We gave up, stopped and had breakfast in a fancy motel with a concierge so we could get instructions on where to go and drove again. We arrived at 6am, picked the car up at 7am, drove until breakfast at around 10am and then arrived in Agra around 4/5pm. It was an intense day. Indians talk with great pride about the Delhi to Agra highway-it’s bitumaned, it’s 4 lanes across, it has petrol stations on the side, it has trees on the side…we thought it was a normal road. Then we drove from Agra to Jaipur and Jaipur to Delhi and wow, that Delhi to Agra road is amazing! Such a terrific road-probably the best in India! My favourite parts on the other ‘highways’ was when the bitumen (that wasn’t terrific at the best of times) just stops, becomes dirt or deep mud for a couple of hundred metres or kilometres, then has lots of Hindu signs along the way (we were so happy the numbers were all the same in Hindu and English so we managed by tracking the numbers) and suddenly becomes bitumen again. This is so common. And there’s no drainage so when it rains, which it did from Agra to Jaipur and Jaipur to Delhi there are huge puddles on the ground which you have no idea how deep they are. Thank goodness we had a diesel. XXX was incredible. He had such a good time driving! Lots of fun. There were also toll booths all the time. They’d charge 20-40 ruppees. (42 rupees=$1). We thought this was hysterical and constantly wanted to ask to pay more to get a better road! We paid less in tolls over about 6 goes than 1 turn on the M5! To come into the city was 500 rupees (around $12) which we thought was huge!

Our accomodation has been amazing but I did feel guilty about that too! Such amazing opulance inside the gated compound and such poverty outside. The Oberoi was incredible in Agra. Absolutely breathtaking. My first sight of the Taj was outside the bar where we were greeted with our welcome drinks. I couldn’t believe how the Taj was just hanging in the sky above the trees. It took my breath away. It looked etheral and mystical and magical. We were upgraded to a suite (booyah!) on the top floor and could actually see most of it, not just the top of it. It was amazing. I went to the day spa then (tough life) and had a rose petal and milk bath overlooking the Taj and watched the sun set over it and it turn to black. I will never forget it. It was magical. You can see it even at night because it is so black it stands out in the sky. Being able to look at it whenever I liked was incredible. Watching the sun rise over it at the actual place was incredible. We had to run the gauntlet of beggars and hawkers to get there though-they push things into your hands and hold things in front of your eyes so you can’t see and pull on your clothes and hands and stand or walk in front of you like you’re dancing so you can’t move forward. Very intense and we didn’t like it. We got driven down on a golf cart by the motel most of the way but they’re not allowed up to the gate so you have to walk the final 200m yourself which is where they have their final attack. I understand why they’re like that but felt very uncomfortable. It’s been like that whenever we’re by ourselves at a tourist place. We are so white compared to others and we are plump (a sign of richness over here ) that they are like bees to honey. The funny thing is XXX really liked one of their books and I really liked an elephant but we didn’t dare to buy it because then all the rest come over! So no elephant or book. I reckon we’ll get them on ebay! The motel suite was beautiful, all done in light green velvet and marble. We are having a marble bathroom one day in our house! Rambagh Palace in Jaipur was even more amazing. It was like an English country estate oasis. We had our own butler (yes, our own butler! I wanted to bring him home but he wouldn’t fit in my suitcase!) in both places. Upgraded to a palace suite there too. We have been so lucky.

I got sick in Agra and XXX got sick in Jaipur and XXX is sick again this morning in Delhi.We’ve done all the right things but have picked something up from the food or drink we’re guessing. I was very proud of XXX for lasting so well. I thought he’d be sick first. Rambagh Palace sent him 2 dozen yellow roses when he got sick! He said that was lovely but he still wanted to die quietly. I tried to be a good nurse but did have to go to high afternoon tea without him. I can see why Rambagh is in the list of Top 10 places in the world to have afternoon tea. Very fancy! We are both going through Imodium like there’s no tomorrow but since I brought Australia’s entire supply with me we are holding up ok. We both look very suspiciously at food though and are quite happy drinking shakes we brought with us from home with bottled water. XXX did wish we brought some chocolates or snacks with us, there was no customs really in India so I shouldn’t have been so worried!

I am taking my courage into my hands and leaving the compound alone today. We’re in a Commonwealth games zone, so there’s no slums, beggars or hawkers in a close radius. I am going to try to go to a famous shopping mall, Metro Walk Mall, that has an amusement park inside it. Here, you hire a hotel car, they take you wherever and wait for you for as long as you want and then drive you home so I feel comfortable. It’s about $30. Bargain because you can’t trust the cabs or rickshaws here. Everything will be fine and I am very excited. We haven’t shopped or bought one thing here. We haven’t been able to go anywhere without the hawkers so we have avoided it. I can’t believe it personally! XXX is quite pleased :) I did steal the hotel toileteries in each place though. Far swisher than anything we own!

bubba louie said:

MrBL’s nephew and his wife are in India so I thought, if like us, you experience travel secondhand, this might be interesting. I’ve taken out names and personal stuff. We’ll all be glad when they get home because of the terrorist risk ATM.

Jolly good read, Bubba! Better than any of the travelogues that pop up in the newspapers…I hope they don’t get any more Delhi Belli…

Dinetta said:

bubba louie said:

MrBL’s nephew and his wife are in India so I thought, if like us, you experience travel secondhand, this might be interesting. I’ve taken out names and personal stuff. We’ll all be glad when they get home because of the terrorist risk ATM.

Jolly good read, Bubba! Better than any of the travelogues that pop up in the newspapers…I hope they don’t get any more Delhi Belli…

She does have the knack for writing. They’re a really lovely couple too. Childhood sweethearts who had their first date at their year 10 formal and have been together ever since. Theirs was one of the sweetest and most fun weddings I’ve been too and now they have a lovely little girl, who’s staying with MrBL’s brother and his wife while they’re away.

She’s a school teacher and she invited all the kids in her class to the church to watch her get married. :)

Excellent read Bubba. What an insight! Thanks for sharing this :)

bubba louie said:

She’s a school teacher and she invited all the kids in her class to the church to watch her get married. :)

The better ones tend to do that…

I am taking my courage into my hands and leaving the compound alone today.
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geez a lot of writing. pretty much as i saw india as well.

Kids have bought a house, signed the paperwork and now in that cooling off stage. Get the keys Christmas Eve.

Next burb over from us about a 30 to 45 min walk from us.

Lucky1 said:

Kids have bought a house, signed the paperwork and now in that cooling off stage. Get the keys Christmas Eve.

Next burb over from us about a 30 to 45 min walk from us.

Cool!

Lucky1 said:

Kids have bought a house, signed the paperwork and now in that cooling off stage. Get the keys Christmas Eve.

Next burb over from us about a 30 to 45 min walk from us.

Nice Christmas present but why the long settlement???

pain master said:

Lucky1 said:

Kids have bought a house, signed the paperwork and now in that cooling off stage. Get the keys Christmas Eve.

Next burb over from us about a 30 to 45 min walk from us.

Nice Christmas present but why the long settlement???

Probably in the contract.. sellers aren’t leaving until school hols start.

pain master said:

Lucky1 said:

Kids have bought a house, signed the paperwork and now in that cooling off stage. Get the keys Christmas Eve.

Next burb over from us about a 30 to 45 min walk from us.

Nice Christmas present but why the long settlement???

People are renting it back from the kids for a few weeks while they paint the house they have bought from someone else..

Lucky1 said:

pain master said:

Lucky1 said:

Kids have bought a house, signed the paperwork and now in that cooling off stage. Get the keys Christmas Eve.

Next burb over from us about a 30 to 45 min walk from us.

Nice Christmas present but why the long settlement???

People are renting it back from the kids for a few weeks while they paint the house they have bought from someone else..

I guess Roughy stands corrected but I would have accepted his answer….

pain master said:

Lucky1 said:

pain master said:

Nice Christmas present but why the long settlement???

People are renting it back from the kids for a few weeks while they paint the house they have bought from someone else..

I guess Roughy stands corrected but I would have accepted his answer….

LOl, not sure where Christmas will be this year.I think our place.

Lucky1 said:

pain master said:

Lucky1 said:

People are renting it back from the kids for a few weeks while they paint the house they have bought from someone else..

I guess Roughy stands corrected but I would have accepted his answer….

LOl, not sure where Christmas will be this year.I think our place.

Often Christmas is on the 25th of December if that helps….

I guess Roughy stands corrected but I would have accepted his answer….

well, it was plausible// and anyway I was correct about that it was in the contract.

Lucky1 said:

Kids have bought a house, signed the paperwork and now in that cooling off stage. Get the keys Christmas Eve.

Next burb over from us about a 30 to 45 min walk from us.

Woo, well done to them! That sounds like a good distance away – close but not too close :D

bon008 said:

Lucky1 said:

Kids have bought a house, signed the paperwork and now in that cooling off stage. Get the keys Christmas Eve.

Next burb over from us about a 30 to 45 min walk from us.

Woo, well done to them! That sounds like a good distance away – close but not too close :D

nice Xmas pressie, congrats to them both :)

It seems my eldest son got a case of the heebie jeebies when he went to board a plane, couldn’t do it, like me he hate’s flying, so he’s bussing it over and I will pick him up early in the morn.

Happy Potter said:

It seems my eldest son got a case of the heebie jeebies when he went to board a plane, couldn’t do it, like me he hate’s flying, so he’s bussing it over and I will pick him up early in the morn.

Gee, how long will that take?

Happy Potter said:

It seems my eldest son got a case of the heebie jeebies when he went to board a plane, couldn’t do it, like me he hate’s flying, so he’s bussing it over and I will pick him up early in the morn.

J
Hope he got a refund ?

Dinetta said:

Happy Potter said:

It seems my eldest son got a case of the heebie jeebies when he went to board a plane, couldn’t do it, like me he hate’s flying, so he’s bussing it over and I will pick him up early in the morn.

Gee, how long will that take?

11-12 hours, awful trip cramped up in a seat. But I’d do it rather than fly too. There’s the o’nighter train from Adelaide as well, but that’s really taking your life in your hands, according to him.

Happy Potter said:

11-12 hours, awful trip cramped up in a seat. But I’d do it rather than fly too. There’s the o’nighter train from Adelaide as well, but that’s really taking your life in your hands, according to him.

Mr D and I went on that train once, we quite enjoyed it…that was about 30 years ago… has it gone downhill since then?

The Estate said:

Happy Potter said:

It seems my eldest son got a case of the heebie jeebies when he went to board a plane, couldn’t do it, like me he hate’s flying, so he’s bussing it over and I will pick him up early in the morn.

J
Hope he got a refund ?

It was a standby supa special $15 jobbie, he doesn’t care.

Happy Potter said:

Dinetta said:

Happy Potter said:

It seems my eldest son got a case of the heebie jeebies when he went to board a plane, couldn’t do it, like me he hate’s flying, so he’s bussing it over and I will pick him up early in the morn.

Gee, how long will that take?

11-12 hours, awful trip cramped up in a seat. But I’d do it rather than fly too. There’s the o’nighter train from Adelaide as well, but that’s really taking your life in your hands, according to him.

is he allowed to drive? Its only 800kms.

pain master said:

Happy Potter said:

Dinetta said:

Gee, how long will that take?

11-12 hours, awful trip cramped up in a seat. But I’d do it rather than fly too. There’s the o’nighter train from Adelaide as well, but that’s really taking your life in your hands, according to him.

is he allowed to drive? Its only 800kms.

I told him not to drive it. I do not need the worry of one of my kids on a long tiring road trip.

Evening :)

What a day. Bludged the whole day away on the couch with my feet up, pen and notepad and the phone in my hand. One call after another..

The boys psychologist was first.. wants the kid back on meds asap. He’s been monitoring the boy closely and agrees his mood is swinging up and down in sharp points in 15 minute intervals.. not like the usual mood waves that can be days or weeks. It’s too exhausing and distressing on the boy and he’s not eating. His weight is plummeting. Appt made.

Next was a c/link social worker lady who is trying to fine me the elusive fab psychologist. She’s great to talk to and we had a laugh going down a list of possibles. I was telling her about my past psychological sessions.
I sent a lifeworks psych off sick.
An Anglican psych told me he cannot help me as he doesn’t have half the life experiences that I have had.
The family session psych insulted me and I walked out. Ect.
She said have I ever thougtht to put a notice on me like the health warning you see on packs of cigarettes, ‘Warning, Talking To This Person Can Be Bad For Your Health’. LOL!
She’s onto one tho’ and I will ring them tomorrow.

I am aware, especially in light of recent events, that I have a possible post trauma or delayed reaction thing happening. I can be deep in conversation about whatever and I’m suddenly in tears. So I concede defeat and will see a psych. It’s not depression and I don’t feel depressed. I’m onto it ;)

Lastly, and the most interesting call, was from a fellow who said his name and said he worked in a court. He asked all about GS and he was interested in the dealings we have had with dhs. He said he wasn’t happy with the lack of support for the boy or us as a family.
He wanted to know the names of case managers past and present, supervisers and team leaders, even support workers (who never show up) and any one of the various programs and disability orgs that continually send us mail re the programs that GS is supposed to attend, but can’t because their progs aren’t suitable for GS because they’re not geared to a person with autism. He asked if there were specialist centers for adults with autism, and no there’s not. There’s ony childildren’s ones.
I have all that info, so I supplied it. I asked him just exactly who are you again? He said he is a Surpreme Court Judge. He said the policewoman who took your statement last Sunday night is my daughter and was very affected by what happened that evening to us and our son..

I’ve no idea what happens next.

I’ve no idea what happens next.
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I don’t know what to say except…. my thoughts (and the elf’s) and prayers are with you and your family……. Maybe someone will start up a specialist centers for adults with autism……..

Lucky1 said:

I’ve no idea what happens next.
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I don’t know what to say except…. my thoughts (and the elf’s) and prayers are with you and your family……. Maybe someone will start up a specialist centers for adults with autism……..

I remember when the Feral Teenager (Asperger’s Syndrome plus genius IQ) had me at my lowest as a result of his behaviour – he was about 13 – and I tried to give him to the nearest Youth Refuge. They wouldn’t go near him because he’d been suspended from school for violence against another student.

I honestly don’t know how you keep hanging in there HP. I’d have crumbled years ago. Was on mild anti-depressants thanks to his behaviour and the inability to access anything that made a difference. Services in small country towns are non-existent. And the nearest available professional may be a day’s drive away.

Yeehah said:

Lucky1 said:

I’ve no idea what happens next.
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I don’t know what to say except…. my thoughts (and the elf’s) and prayers are with you and your family……. Maybe someone will start up a specialist centers for adults with autism……..

I remember when the Feral Teenager (Asperger’s Syndrome plus genius IQ) had me at my lowest as a result of his behaviour – he was about 13 – and I tried to give him to the nearest Youth Refuge. They wouldn’t go near him because he’d been suspended from school for violence against another student.

I honestly don’t know how you keep hanging in there HP. I’d have crumbled years ago. Was on mild anti-depressants thanks to his behaviour and the inability to access anything that made a difference. Services in small country towns are non-existent. And the nearest available professional may be a day’s drive away.

The lack of support sucks. And I know of others trying to cope all over Oz. Lack of any early intervention, but not lack of trying to get it by us, failed my son. He needed an autism school but no places were available. There’s this huggggee gap between his very low verbal and very high performance scores. Also the dx criteria is off the mark.
GS has a disability, but without being disabled. And a mild ID (IQ 70) intellectual disability, and severe behavioural problems, but doesn’t a mental illness. And the only co-morbidies he doesn’t have are epilipsy and conduct disorder. He has all the rest and it’s a long, long list.

So, he is not disabled nor is he mentally ill.. therefore he is neuro typical (average/normal) and is treated as such. But he’s not…

As the Judge fellow today said ‘thats not between the crack’s he’s fallen into, that’s a grand canyon’.

Supreme court judges are very very nice to have playing on your side.

They know people and they have real stroke. Good catch.

And good luck.

Happy Potter said:

I am aware, especially in light of recent events, that I have a possible post trauma or delayed reaction thing happening. I can be deep in conversation about whatever and I’m suddenly in tears. So I concede defeat and will see a psych. It’s not depression and I don’t feel depressed. I’m onto it ;)

Lastly, and the most interesting call, was from a fellow who said his name and said he worked in a court. He asked all about GS and he was interested in the dealings we have had with dhs. He said he wasn’t happy with the lack of support for the boy or us as a family.
He wanted to know the names of case managers past and present, supervisers and team leaders, even support workers (who never show up) and any one of the various programs and disability orgs that continually send us mail re the programs that GS is supposed to attend, but can’t because their progs aren’t suitable for GS because they’re not geared to a person with autism. He asked if there were specialist centers for adults with autism, and no there’s not. There’s ony childildren’s ones.
I have all that info, so I supplied it. I asked him just exactly who are you again? He said he is a Surpreme Court Judge. He said the policewoman who took your statement last Sunday night is my daughter and was very affected by what happened that evening to us and our son..

I’ve no idea what happens next.

I hope they find a good psychologist for you. You know what I think on that matter!

Interesting about the judge, wonder if anything will come of that?

Yeehah said:

Lucky1 said:

I’ve no idea what happens next.
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I don’t know what to say except…. my thoughts (and the elf’s) and prayers are with you and your family……. Maybe someone will start up a specialist centers for adults with autism……..

I remember when the Feral Teenager (Asperger’s Syndrome plus genius IQ) had me at my lowest as a result of his behaviour – he was about 13 – and I tried to give him to the nearest Youth Refuge. They wouldn’t go near him because he’d been suspended from school for violence against another student.

I honestly don’t know how you keep hanging in there HP. I’d have crumbled years ago. Was on mild anti-depressants thanks to his behaviour and the inability to access anything that made a difference. Services in small country towns are non-existent. And the nearest available professional may be a day’s drive away.

but you persevered and look at him now :)

claps for Yeehah

Happy Potter said:

So, he is not disabled nor is he mentally ill.. therefore he is neuro typical (average/normal) and is treated as such. But he’s not…

don’t you hate the way everyone has to fit in a neat box? If you don’t fit they don’t know what to do!!

bluegreen said:

Yeehah said:

Lucky1 said:

I’ve no idea what happens next.
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I don’t know what to say except…. my thoughts (and the elf’s) and prayers are with you and your family……. Maybe someone will start up a specialist centers for adults with autism……..

I remember when the Feral Teenager (Asperger’s Syndrome plus genius IQ) had me at my lowest as a result of his behaviour – he was about 13 – and I tried to give him to the nearest Youth Refuge. They wouldn’t go near him because he’d been suspended from school for violence against another student.

I honestly don’t know how you keep hanging in there HP. I’d have crumbled years ago. Was on mild anti-depressants thanks to his behaviour and the inability to access anything that made a difference. Services in small country towns are non-existent. And the nearest available professional may be a day’s drive away.

but you persevered and look at him now :)

claps for Yeehah

It can be all SO over whelming just reading about it . Must give Chris a clip over the ears for good measure lol

bluegreen said:

Yeehah said:

I remember when the Feral Teenager (Asperger’s Syndrome plus genius IQ) had me at my lowest as a result of his behaviour – he was about 13 – and I tried to give him to the nearest Youth Refuge. They wouldn’t go near him because he’d been suspended from school for violence against another student.

I honestly don’t know how you keep hanging in there HP. I’d have crumbled years ago. Was on mild anti-depressants thanks to his behaviour and the inability to access anything that made a difference. Services in small country towns are non-existent. And the nearest available professional may be a day’s drive away.

but you persevered and look at him now :)

claps for Yeehah

By persevering you mean failed to murder him despite the recurrent urge to do so :P

Frankly, there were times that the only reason I didn’t drive the FT and me into a tree was because I couldn’t bear to leave Littlefella motherless. So Littlefella, without knowing it, saved my life just by being alive himself.

Yeehah said:

By persevering you mean failed to murder him despite the recurrent urge to do so :P

Frankly, there were times that the only reason I didn’t drive the FT and me into a tree was because I couldn’t bear to leave Littlefella motherless. So Littlefella, without knowing it, saved my life just by being alive himself.

yes, if that was what it took. and we find strength in the most unlikely places sometimes. It is my animals that gets me up in the mornings here most days. They want to be fed etc. and I have a responsibility to them.

bluegreen said:

… we find strength in the most unlikely places sometimes. It is my animals that gets me up in the mornings here most days. They want to be fed etc. and I have a responsibility to them.

I like having enough life experience under my belt that I know that when sh*t happens it’s only a matter of time till things come good again. Just a matter of one foot in front of the other in the meantime.

But raising the FT was part of the training that got me to this point!

………………………………….I’ve no idea what happens next.
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that does sound hopeful HP. i know they have let you down often but maybe?

Happy Potter said:

Yeehah said:

Lucky1 said:

I’ve no idea what happens next.
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I don’t know what to say except…. my thoughts (and the elf’s) and prayers are with you and your family……. Maybe someone will start up a specialist centers for adults with autism……..

I remember when the Feral Teenager (Asperger’s Syndrome plus genius IQ) had me at my lowest as a result of his behaviour – he was about 13 – and I tried to give him to the nearest Youth Refuge. They wouldn’t go near him because he’d been suspended from school for violence against another student.

I honestly don’t know how you keep hanging in there HP. I’d have crumbled years ago. Was on mild anti-depressants thanks to his behaviour and the inability to access anything that made a difference. Services in small country towns are non-existent. And the nearest available professional may be a day’s drive away.

The lack of support sucks. And I know of others trying to cope all over Oz. Lack of any early intervention, but not lack of trying to get it by us, failed my son. He needed an autism school but no places were available. There’s this huggggee gap between his very low verbal and very high performance scores. Also the dx criteria is off the mark.
GS has a disability, but without being disabled. And a mild ID (IQ 70) intellectual disability, and severe behavioural problems, but doesn’t a mental illness. And the only co-morbidies he doesn’t have are epilipsy and conduct disorder. He has all the rest and it’s a long, long list. So, he is not disabled nor is he mentally ill.. therefore he is neuro typical (average/normal) and is treated as such. But he’s not…As the Judge fellow today said ‘thats not between the crack’s he’s fallen into, that’s a grand canyon’.

you certainly are handling some major issues there ladies. nice clear writing i understood but don’t know what is to be done.

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

So, he is not disabled nor is he mentally ill.. therefore he is neuro typical (average/normal) and is treated as such. But he’s not…

don’t you hate the way everyone has to fit in a neat box? If you don’t fit they don’t know what to do!!

yep, they don’t.
What we want .. house the boy in a more supported and secure accommodation. As they do for people who need it.
But seeing as the boy is bluddy ‘normal’! we are asking too much.

dhs did come up with something, an apartment, support worker visits twice a day and guardian visits often (better than nothing) and other programs and supports in place. But, when we heard where it was.. Docklands, Melbs newest and most exxy suburb, all high rise. High rise out? no high rises, we can see bodies being thrown out and people below being showered with glass. It matters not that the windows cannot be opened.

Happy Potter said:

.
But seeing as the boy is bluddy ‘normal’! we are asking too much.

I fail to see how GS can be categorised as “normal”…no offence, Happy Potter…I’m sure you get my meaning…

Happy Potter said:

…

He said he is a Surpreme Court Judge. He said the policewoman who took your statement last Sunday night is my daughter and was very affected by what happened that evening to us and our son..

I’ve no idea what happens next.

WOW. I hope he’s able to do something positive for your family. Look after yourself HP :)

We’ve had a bit of a fright night with Giant Son. The boy was taken to a police station after yet another lot of distress and damage at his resi unit yesterday, and then his residential unit manager refused to take him back in.
Can’t blame them, they have had enough too.
But it meant he didn’t have anywhere else to go and the authorities can’t hold him, they were simply going to release him onto the street with no money, no travel ticket, no food or drink, nothing. So hubby had no choice but to take him to our eldest daughters place. He will be there until Monday morn when we can get hold of his guardian or dhs. What get’s us is that on the weekends there’s no one to get hold of and no one to help. Because of this my grandson will stay with hubby and I for this weekend.
GS quite obviously needs higher care and urgently. He is being treated as an adult but intellectually he’s not an adult and cannot look after himself. He’s lost a heap of weight and will go days without eating, his clothes are falling off him. When he does eat he throws up. I feel heartsick for him and am instructing the girl on how to treat him for malnutrician.

Local MP was no help. The last thing I want to do is approach the media, but will if I have to. I did once before and they weren’t interested, but now we are in a different place we are in a higher ‘realm’ and this time it’s the govt not toeing the line. What’s new?

Happy Potter said:

We’ve had a bit of a fright night with Giant Son. The boy was taken to a police station after yet another lot of distress and damage at his resi unit yesterday, and then his residential unit manager refused to take him back in.
Can’t blame them, they have had enough too.
But it meant he didn’t have anywhere else to go and the authorities can’t hold him, they were simply going to release him onto the street with no money, no travel ticket, no food or drink, nothing. So hubby had no choice but to take him to our eldest daughters place. He will be there until Monday morn when we can get hold of his guardian or dhs. What get’s us is that on the weekends there’s no one to get hold of and no one to help. Because of this my grandson will stay with hubby and I for this weekend.
GS quite obviously needs higher care and urgently. He is being treated as an adult but intellectually he’s not an adult and cannot look after himself. He’s lost a heap of weight and will go days without eating, his clothes are falling off him. When he does eat he throws up. I feel heartsick for him and am instructing the girl on how to treat him for malnutrician.

Local MP was no help. The last thing I want to do is approach the media, but will if I have to. I did once before and they weren’t interested, but now we are in a different place we are in a higher ‘realm’ and this time it’s the govt not toeing the line. What’s new?

Oh HP! It never stops for you does it??? You poor thing. I hope that one day it will all get sorted for you. In the meantime enjoy the pleasures that result from wonderful garden of yours and the support of the the rest of family, including us cyber members. :(

potter, is there a light at the end of the tunnel? What do you and your family see as being a balanced lifestyle? I am totally ignorant of Australia’s Mental Health Care system, but as I grew up there were places like Glenside where we would incarcerate people such as your son, and this “soft” prison was the way we as a society would hide things like Autism. I also know many years ago there was a push to close down these psychiatric prisons because a few people in the public did not thing they to be humane and they offered no hope for the victim. Is your son’s “residential care unit” the modern equivalent of our old “nut houses”???

What is the solution?

AnneS said:

Happy Potter said:

We’ve had a bit of a fright night with Giant Son. The boy was taken to a police station after yet another lot of distress and damage at his resi unit yesterday, and then his residential unit manager refused to take him back in.
Can’t blame them, they have had enough too.
But it meant he didn’t have anywhere else to go and the authorities can’t hold him, they were simply going to release him onto the street with no money, no travel ticket, no food or drink, nothing. So hubby had no choice but to take him to our eldest daughters place. He will be there until Monday morn when we can get hold of his guardian or dhs. What get’s us is that on the weekends there’s no one to get hold of and no one to help. Because of this my grandson will stay with hubby and I for this weekend.
GS quite obviously needs higher care and urgently. He is being treated as an adult but intellectually he’s not an adult and cannot look after himself. He’s lost a heap of weight and will go days without eating, his clothes are falling off him. When he does eat he throws up. I feel heartsick for him and am instructing the girl on how to treat him for malnutrician.

Local MP was no help. The last thing I want to do is approach the media, but will if I have to. I did once before and they weren’t interested, but now we are in a different place we are in a higher ‘realm’ and this time it’s the govt not toeing the line. What’s new?

Oh HP! It never stops for you does it??? You poor thing. I hope that one day it will all get sorted for you. In the meantime enjoy the pleasures that result from wonderful garden of yours and the support of the the rest of family, including us cyber members. :(

what she said.

bluegreen said:

AnneS said:

Happy Potter said:

We’ve had a bit of a fright night with Giant Son. The boy was taken to a police station after yet another lot of distress and damage at his resi unit yesterday, and then his residential unit manager refused to take him back in.
Can’t blame them, they have had enough too.
But it meant he didn’t have anywhere else to go and the authorities can’t hold him, they were simply going to release him onto the street with no money, no travel ticket, no food or drink, nothing. So hubby had no choice but to take him to our eldest daughters place. He will be there until Monday morn when we can get hold of his guardian or dhs. What get’s us is that on the weekends there’s no one to get hold of and no one to help. Because of this my grandson will stay with hubby and I for this weekend.
GS quite obviously needs higher care and urgently. He is being treated as an adult but intellectually he’s not an adult and cannot look after himself. He’s lost a heap of weight and will go days without eating, his clothes are falling off him. When he does eat he throws up. I feel heartsick for him and am instructing the girl on how to treat him for malnutrician.

Local MP was no help. The last thing I want to do is approach the media, but will if I have to. I did once before and they weren’t interested, but now we are in a different place we are in a higher ‘realm’ and this time it’s the govt not toeing the line. What’s new?

Oh HP! It never stops for you does it??? You poor thing. I hope that one day it will all get sorted for you. In the meantime enjoy the pleasures that result from wonderful garden of yours and the support of the the rest of family, including us cyber members. :(

what she said.

Yeah from me too……

Happy Potter said:

We’ve had a bit of a fright night with Giant Son. The boy was taken to a police station after yet another lot of distress and damage at his resi unit yesterday, and then his residential unit manager refused to take him back in.
Can’t blame them, they have had enough too.
But it meant he didn’t have anywhere else to go and the authorities can’t hold him, they were simply going to release him onto the street with no money, no travel ticket, no food or drink, nothing. So hubby had no choice but to take him to our eldest daughters place. He will be there until Monday morn when we can get hold of his guardian or dhs. What get’s us is that on the weekends there’s no one to get hold of and no one to help. Because of this my grandson will stay with hubby and I for this weekend.
GS quite obviously needs higher care and urgently. He is being treated as an adult but intellectually he’s not an adult and cannot look after himself. He’s lost a heap of weight and will go days without eating, his clothes are falling off him. When he does eat he throws up. I feel heartsick for him and am instructing the girl on how to treat him for malnutrician.

Local MP was no help. The last thing I want to do is approach the media, but will if I have to. I did once before and they weren’t interested, but now we are in a different place we are in a higher ‘realm’ and this time it’s the govt not toeing the line. What’s new?

What in the hell is going on here? Why are these poor people and their parents/carers just ignored? Go to the media I say. Make somebody listen!!! Now he’s losing weight and that’s just not right. None of it is right!!!!

bluegreen said:

AnneS said:

Happy Potter said:

We’ve had a bit of a fright night with Giant Son. The boy was taken to a police station after yet another lot of distress and damage at his resi unit yesterday, and then his residential unit manager refused to take him back in.
Can’t blame them, they have had enough too.
But it meant he didn’t have anywhere else to go and the authorities can’t hold him, they were simply going to release him onto the street with no money, no travel ticket, no food or drink, nothing. So hubby had no choice but to take him to our eldest daughters place. He will be there until Monday morn when we can get hold of his guardian or dhs. What get’s us is that on the weekends there’s no one to get hold of and no one to help. Because of this my grandson will stay with hubby and I for this weekend.
GS quite obviously needs higher care and urgently. He is being treated as an adult but intellectually he’s not an adult and cannot look after himself. He’s lost a heap of weight and will go days without eating, his clothes are falling off him. When he does eat he throws up. I feel heartsick for him and am instructing the girl on how to treat him for malnutrician.

Local MP was no help. The last thing I want to do is approach the media, but will if I have to. I did once before and they weren’t interested, but now we are in a different place we are in a higher ‘realm’ and this time it’s the govt not toeing the line. What’s new?

Oh HP! It never stops for you does it??? You poor thing. I hope that one day it will all get sorted for you. In the meantime enjoy the pleasures that result from wonderful garden of yours and the support of the the rest of family, including us cyber members. :(

what she said.

ditto

pain master said:

potter, is there a light at the end of the tunnel? What do you and your family see as being a balanced lifestyle? I am totally ignorant of Australia’s Mental Health Care system, but as I grew up there were places like Glenside where we would incarcerate people such as your son, and this “soft” prison was the way we as a society would hide things like Autism. I also know many years ago there was a push to close down these psychiatric prisons because a few people in the public did not thing they to be humane and they offered no hope for the victim. Is your son’s “residential care unit” the modern equivalent of our old “nut houses”???

What is the solution?

No, the modern residential care unit is just a home for people with high needs and respite for parents/ carers.
What we need is that ‘soft prison’ style back again, won’t get it, but it’s what GS needs to keep him safe and us safe from him. ‘Us’ meaning the community in general as well.
That would be the solution. Until that happens, or worse, the kid breaks the law, then there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

Happy Potter said:

pain master said:

potter, is there a light at the end of the tunnel? What do you and your family see as being a balanced lifestyle? I am totally ignorant of Australia’s Mental Health Care system, but as I grew up there were places like Glenside where we would incarcerate people such as your son, and this “soft” prison was the way we as a society would hide things like Autism. I also know many years ago there was a push to close down these psychiatric prisons because a few people in the public did not thing they to be humane and they offered no hope for the victim. Is your son’s “residential care unit” the modern equivalent of our old “nut houses”???

What is the solution?

No, the modern residential care unit is just a home for people with high needs and respite for parents/ carers.
What we need is that ‘soft prison’ style back again, won’t get it, but it’s what GS needs to keep him safe and us safe from him. ‘Us’ meaning the community in general as well.
That would be the solution. Until that happens, or worse, the kid breaks the law, then there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

Might be time to pitch a tent up on the shores of Lake Burley Griffin, with the indigenous crew on the lawns of parliament house and see if a protest can’t get some action?

Might be time to pitch a tent up on the shores of Lake Burley Griffin, with the indigenous crew on the lawns of parliament house and see if a protest can’t get some action?
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Hmmm needs to be something grander than that. Maybe something with pyrotechnics involved. I’ll have to think on it.

Accommodation has been found for GS, temporary ( for a couple weeks) but much smaller and with an autism worker. Great!

Meetings will happen over the next few weeks. But the boy has had medical attention, new meds plus an extra med to help control impulse behaviours.
Gawd.
Maybe I need some lol.

Happy Potter said:

Accommodation has been found for GS, temporary ( for a couple weeks) but much smaller and with an autism worker. Great!

Meetings will happen over the next few weeks. But the boy has had medical attention, new meds plus an extra med to help control impulse behaviours.
Gawd.
Maybe I need some lol.

Whew, glad there’s some progress :)

No point suggesting you slow down and take a break, is there?? :D

Happy Potter said:

Accommodation has been found for GS, temporary ( for a couple weeks) but much smaller and with an autism worker. Great!

Meetings will happen over the next few weeks. But the boy has had medical attention, new meds plus an extra med to help control impulse behaviours.
Gawd.
Maybe I need some lol.

good.

Happy Potter said:

Accommodation has been found for GS, temporary ( for a couple weeks) but much smaller and with an autism worker. Great!

Meetings will happen over the next few weeks. But the boy has had medical attention, new meds plus an extra med to help control impulse behaviours.
Gawd.
Maybe I need some lol.

I hope you can get some good results in the next coming weeks.

Lucky1 said:

Happy Potter said:

Accommodation has been found for GS, temporary ( for a couple weeks) but much smaller and with an autism worker. Great!

Meetings will happen over the next few weeks. But the boy has had medical attention, new meds plus an extra med to help control impulse behaviours.
Gawd.
Maybe I need some lol.

I hope you can get some good results in the next coming weeks.

ditto

bon008 said:

Happy Potter said:

Accommodation has been found for GS, temporary ( for a couple weeks) but much smaller and with an autism worker. Great!

Meetings will happen over the next few weeks. But the boy has had medical attention, new meds plus an extra med to help control impulse behaviours.
Gawd.
Maybe I need some lol.

Whew, glad there’s some progress :)

No point suggesting you slow down and take a break, is there?? :D

No point at all Bon ,lol.

Yes progress, but a lot more needs to be done. At least GS is safe for now.

AnneS said:

Lucky1 said:

Happy Potter said:

Accommodation has been found for GS, temporary ( for a couple weeks) but much smaller and with an autism worker. Great!

Meetings will happen over the next few weeks. But the boy has had medical attention, new meds plus an extra med to help control impulse behaviours.
Gawd.
Maybe I need some lol.

I hope you can get some good results in the next coming weeks.

ditto

Thank you, and to others who commented. I know I can rant/ lose it in here and not be thought any less of or judged any differently.
Finally ‘they’ are starting to realise the boy is a bit more of a handful than they previously thought and needs to be in a secure unit. That will still take months and court hearings though.

one foot in front of the other..

Happy Potter said:

AnneS said:

Lucky1 said:

I hope you can get some good results in the next coming weeks.

ditto

Thank you, and to others who commented. I know I can rant/ lose it in here and not be thought any less of or judged any differently.
Finally ‘they’ are starting to realise the boy is a bit more of a handful than they previously thought and needs to be in a secure unit. That will still take months and court hearings though.

one foot in front of the other..

i RARELY COMMENT BUT i DO READ. tO TELL THE TRUTH i’M JUST LOST FOR WORDS.

Silly caps lock.

Happy Potter said:

Thank you, and to others who commented. I know I can rant/ lose it in here and not be thought any less of or judged any differently.
Finally ‘they’ are starting to realise the boy is a bit more of a handful than they previously thought and needs to be in a secure unit. That will still take months and court hearings though.

one foot in front of the other..

I know it seems that there are more backward steps that forwards sometimes, but it seems to me that things are inching forward if very slowly. Hang in there girl! (((HUGS)))

Bumped for Yeehah.

Can’t find the family stuff thread.

Been on the phone off and on since 8 tonight when Dad rang to say Mum’s in hospital. Septicaemia and suspected mild heart attack. Mum’s a heavy smoker and one sister and I agree that all those other odd symptoms probably mean emphysema too. Another sister looked up septicaemia, she said it’s got a worse prognosis if there’s underlying health problems. Remember the lymphoedema I mentioned? Her lymphatic system is buggered. Her lungs could well be buggered. And now it could be that her circulatory system is buggered. And she has a nasty infection.

Am very worried. Probably will do the 2hr drive to see her on Sunday.

She’s only just turned 69.
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That’s a worry :( I hope your mum gets better and isn’t in hosp too long Yeehah. Best talk to her Doc.

Happy Potter said:

Bumped for Yeehah.

Can’t find the family stuff thread.

Been on the phone off and on since 8 tonight when Dad rang to say Mum’s in hospital. Septicaemia and suspected mild heart attack. Mum’s a heavy smoker and one sister and I agree that all those other odd symptoms probably mean emphysema too. Another sister looked up septicaemia, she said it’s got a worse prognosis if there’s underlying health problems. Remember the lymphoedema I mentioned? Her lymphatic system is buggered. Her lungs could well be buggered. And now it could be that her circulatory system is buggered. And she has a nasty infection.

Am very worried. Probably will do the 2hr drive to see her on Sunday.

She’s only just turned 69.
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That’s a worry :( I hope your mum gets better and isn’t in hosp too long Yeehah. Best talk to her Doc.

Thanks HP.

Have my work Christmas party today at lunchtime. Will go to that as planned. I’m taking coleslaw and a slice – better get that sorted soon.

My sister Chris lives in Tamworth, where Mum is in hospital. She bluffed her way in to see Mum after visiting hours last night, but will wait till 11am visiting hours today, will ring us all when she’s seen Mum. Dad isn’t too good with details.

Chris is closest, I’m 2 hrs’ drive away, sister Wendy is at the Gold Coast, sister Felicity is in Canberra. I’m planning on going down tomorrow.

I’ve got a sick feeling about this, but sincerely hope I’ll be proven wrong.

I’ll be very surprised if the chest x-rays don’t show up emphysema but no heart problems. But then again one of Mum’s brothers died of a heart attack aged 55 – who knows?

Isn’t it funny, as I grew up Dad has done some silly/dangerous things and drives too fast and drinks too much, so Dad dying suddenly was always a possibility.

But Mum … well, she’s just always been there, and the thought of her not being around just doesn’t compute.

Morning. My mum ended up in hosp yesterday too. Passed out on way to toilet. BP 120/50. In HDU overnight. I’m still crook with the cold and heading off to Sydney shortly.Will be AWOL for a few days probably.

I haven’t heard any news yet today about my Mum so I will still go to my daughter’s for the 2 yr old party tomorrow and then work what I am going to do….have to take #1 son back to Canberra as well, maybe then head on up to Lithgow. More driving :(

AnneS said:

Morning. My mum ended up in hosp yesterday too. Passed out on way to toilet. BP 120/50. In HDU overnight. I’m still crook with the cold and heading off to Sydney shortly.Will be AWOL for a few days probably.

We wish your Mum well too Ann.

pomolo said:

AnneS said:

Morning. My mum ended up in hosp yesterday too. Passed out on way to toilet. BP 120/50. In HDU overnight. I’m still crook with the cold and heading off to Sydney shortly.Will be AWOL for a few days probably.

We wish your Mum well too Ann.

thanks Pom. Heading off now. Bye

best wishes to the two mums in hospital.

you never do expect, or get used to, the loss of your parents
.

AnneS said:

pomolo said:

AnneS said:

Morning. My mum ended up in hosp yesterday too. Passed out on way to toilet. BP 120/50. In HDU overnight. I’m still crook with the cold and heading off to Sydney shortly.Will be AWOL for a few days probably.

We wish your Mum well too Ann.

thanks Pom. Heading off now. Bye

Best wishes to you and your mum Anne.

pepe said:

best wishes to the two mums in hospital.

you never do expect, or get used to, the loss of your parents
.

That’s the truth.

Yeehah said:

AnneS said:

pomolo said:

We wish your Mum well too Ann.

thanks Pom. Heading off now. Bye

Best wishes to you and your mum Anne.

Evening. Thanks Yeehah you’ve got a bit more on your plate than me I think at the moment. Mum was transferred out of the HDU to the ward today. Her GP thinks she may have had an internal bleed but he thinks she should be ok to go for scheduled bone density and hearing tests on Thursday. I get the impression that they are just keeping her in for a few days to keep an eye on her. At this stage I’m not going to rush up to see her (my daughter reckons it’s my other brothers’ turn). I’m at my daughter’s place and it’s just about killed me not being able to hug the kids :(

But then again I haven’t really felt well enough. I feel like crap and have been absolutely no use to anyone today :(

pomolo said:

pepe said:

best wishes to the two mums in hospital.

you never do expect, or get used to, the loss of your parents
.

That’s the truth.

amen to that pepe. I still miss my dad terribly and it’s been 12 years :(

AnneS said:

Yeehah said:

AnneS said:

thanks Pom. Heading off now. Bye

Best wishes to you and your mum Anne.

Evening. Thanks Yeehah you’ve got a bit more on your plate than me I think at the moment. Mum was transferred out of the HDU to the ward today. Her GP thinks she may have had an internal bleed but he thinks she should be ok to go for scheduled bone density and hearing tests on Thursday. I get the impression that they are just keeping her in for a few days to keep an eye on her. At this stage I’m not going to rush up to see her (my daughter reckons it’s my other brothers’ turn). I’m at my daughter’s place and it’s just about killed me not being able to hug the kids :(

But then again I haven’t really felt well enough. I feel like crap and have been absolutely no use to anyone today :(

I hope a good nights sleep helps you Ann.

AnneS said:

Yeehah said:

AnneS said:

thanks Pom. Heading off now. Bye

Best wishes to you and your mum Anne.

Evening. Thanks Yeehah you’ve got a bit more on your plate than me I think at the moment. Mum was transferred out of the HDU to the ward today. Her GP thinks she may have had an internal bleed but he thinks she should be ok to go for scheduled bone density and hearing tests on Thursday. I get the impression that they are just keeping her in for a few days to keep an eye on her. At this stage I’m not going to rush up to see her (my daughter reckons it’s my other brothers’ turn). I’m at my daughter’s place and it’s just about killed me not being able to hug the kids :(

But then again I haven’t really felt well enough. I feel like crap and have been absolutely no use to anyone today :(

You will hug them again :) Get better quick Anne.

AnneS said:

pomolo said:

pepe said:

best wishes to the two mums in hospital.

you never do expect, or get used to, the loss of your parents
.

That’s the truth.

amen to that pepe. I still miss my dad terribly and it’s been 12 years :(

I was going to make a contribution here but I’m not now. It’s too morbid

pomolo said:

AnneS said:

Yeehah said:

Best wishes to you and your mum Anne.

Evening. Thanks Yeehah you’ve got a bit more on your plate than me I think at the moment. Mum was transferred out of the HDU to the ward today. Her GP thinks she may have had an internal bleed but he thinks she should be ok to go for scheduled bone density and hearing tests on Thursday. I get the impression that they are just keeping her in for a few days to keep an eye on her. At this stage I’m not going to rush up to see her (my daughter reckons it’s my other brothers’ turn). I’m at my daughter’s place and it’s just about killed me not being able to hug the kids :(

But then again I haven’t really felt well enough. I feel like crap and have been absolutely no use to anyone today :(

I hope a good nights sleep helps you Ann.

Heading off now…Will catch you all whenever :(

If anyone’s interested: a Yeehah’s Mum update -

SMS from my sister Christine“FINALLY gone to surgery, so much for ‘morning’. Will be a while. Dr will ring me. Dr said no heart attack, anaesthetist wasn’t so sure. Needs to stay off cigs or will be heart attack in next 3 years.”

Mum is having keyhole surgery to remove her gall bladder, she has a large stone causing pain (sorry if I repeat myself, can’t remember what I’ve said to whom), has been fasting since midnight, was told the surgeon would fit her into his operating schedule sometime, be ready just in case.

We won’t hear how she is until tomorrow I expect. I have 3 sisters, we all work fulltime. Chris lives nearby but can’t get away from work till about 4, so i’m not sure when I’ll get the next update.

I’m not too worried given the information to hand and very glad I saw Mum on Sunday. Still, even though she’s my Mum and by definition mums are supposed to be indestructible ;) she’s not a young thing anymore, so I daresay she won’t recover rapidly. Happy to be proven wrong on that count though!

Yeehah said:

I’m not too worried given the information to hand and very glad I saw Mum on Sunday. Still, even though she’s my Mum and by definition mums are supposed to be indestructible ;) she’s not a young thing anymore, so I daresay she won’t recover rapidly. Happy to be proven wrong on that count though!

I hope she does recover quickly, and takes not of the warning about the cigs too.

bluegreen said:

Yeehah said:

I’m not too worried given the information to hand and very glad I saw Mum on Sunday. Still, even though she’s my Mum and by definition mums are supposed to be indestructible ;) she’s not a young thing anymore, so I daresay she won’t recover rapidly. Happy to be proven wrong on that count though!

I hope she does recover quickly, and takes not of the warning about the cigs too.

I remember when I went to high school (early 80s) and we learnt about the dangers of smoking in Health, I nagged at Mum to quit waaaay back then. Her response – it was either nerve tablets or cigarettes! I think the dr wanted her to take valium at some stage and she refused. Maybe she chose the lesser of evils (or thought so) at the time.

Yeehah said:

I remember when I went to high school (early 80s) and we learnt about the dangers of smoking in Health, I nagged at Mum to quit waaaay back then. Her response – it was either nerve tablets or cigarettes! I think the dr wanted her to take valium at some stage and she refused. Maybe she chose the lesser of evils (or thought so) at the time.

tough choice. I guess she figured she could still function on the cigs, where with Valium that wouldn’t necessarily be the case.

Yeehah said:

If anyone’s interested: a Yeehah’s Mum update -

SMS from my sister Christine“FINALLY gone to surgery, so much for ‘morning’. Will be a while. Dr will ring me. Dr said no heart attack, anaesthetist wasn’t so sure. Needs to stay off cigs or will be heart attack in next 3 years.”

Mum is having keyhole surgery to remove her gall bladder, she has a large stone causing pain (sorry if I repeat myself, can’t remember what I’ve said to whom), has been fasting since midnight, was told the surgeon would fit her into his operating schedule sometime, be ready just in case.

We won’t hear how she is until tomorrow I expect. I have 3 sisters, we all work fulltime. Chris lives nearby but can’t get away from work till about 4, so i’m not sure when I’ll get the next update.

I’m not too worried given the information to hand and very glad I saw Mum on Sunday. Still, even though she’s my Mum and by definition mums are supposed to be indestructible ;) she’s not a young thing anymore, so I daresay she won’t recover rapidly. Happy to be proven wrong on that count though!

Evening all. Update on my Mum while we are at it. She hs had an internal bleed but they don’t know why so will be doing an endoscopy on Thurs to find out why. So we are still waiting.

bluegreen said:

Yeehah said:

I’m not too worried given the information to hand and very glad I saw Mum on Sunday. Still, even though she’s my Mum and by definition mums are supposed to be indestructible ;) she’s not a young thing anymore, so I daresay she won’t recover rapidly. Happy to be proven wrong on that count though!

I hope she does recover quickly, and takes not of the warning about the cigs too.

Yes Yeehah, I meant to mention that I hope your Mum recovers quickly, before launching into my update :(

My thoughts are with you

AnneS said:

Yes Yeehah, I meant to mention that I hope your Mum recovers quickly, before launching into my update :(

My thoughts are with you

And am keeping your mum in the happy thoughts arena of my consciousness too, Anne.

My immediate family, although not actively healthy (lots overweight, couple of smokers, bit of history re cancer/heart/diabetes but nothing scary), tend to generally be in reasonably good health. Mum’s current illness is the first unpredicted health scare in 18 years. All other more recent health worries are historical or distantly related.

bluegreen said:

Yeehah said:

I’m not too worried given the information to hand and very glad I saw Mum on Sunday. Still, even though she’s my Mum and by definition mums are supposed to be indestructible ;) she’s not a young thing anymore, so I daresay she won’t recover rapidly. Happy to be proven wrong on that count though!

I hope she does recover quickly, and takes not of the warning about the cigs too.

The keyhole surgery makes it soooo much easier. I was only in overnight and had hardly any pain.

AnneS said:

Yeehah said:

If anyone’s interested: a Yeehah’s Mum update -

SMS from my sister Christine“FINALLY gone to surgery, so much for ‘morning’. Will be a while. Dr will ring me. Dr said no heart attack, anaesthetist wasn’t so sure. Needs to stay off cigs or will be heart attack in next 3 years.”

Mum is having keyhole surgery to remove her gall bladder, she has a large stone causing pain (sorry if I repeat myself, can’t remember what I’ve said to whom), has been fasting since midnight, was told the surgeon would fit her into his operating schedule sometime, be ready just in case.

We won’t hear how she is until tomorrow I expect. I have 3 sisters, we all work fulltime. Chris lives nearby but can’t get away from work till about 4, so i’m not sure when I’ll get the next update.

I’m not too worried given the information to hand and very glad I saw Mum on Sunday. Still, even though she’s my Mum and by definition mums are supposed to be indestructible ;) she’s not a young thing anymore, so I daresay she won’t recover rapidly. Happy to be proven wrong on that count though!

Evening all. Update on my Mum while we are at it. She hs had an internal bleed but they don’t know why so will be doing an endoscopy on Thurs to find out why. So we are still waiting.

I hope they sort her out soon Anne.

Yeehah said:

If anyone’s interested: a Yeehah’s Mum update -

SMS from my sister Christine“FINALLY gone to surgery, so much for ‘morning’. Will be a while. Dr will ring me. Dr said no heart attack, anaesthetist wasn’t so sure. Needs to stay off cigs or will be heart attack in next 3 years.”

Mum is having keyhole surgery to remove her gall bladder, she has a large stone causing pain (sorry if I repeat myself, can’t remember what I’ve said to whom), has been fasting since midnight, was told the surgeon would fit her into his operating schedule sometime, be ready just in case.

We won’t hear how she is until tomorrow I expect. I have 3 sisters, we all work fulltime. Chris lives nearby but can’t get away from work till about 4, so i’m not sure when I’ll get the next update.

I’m not too worried given the information to hand and very glad I saw Mum on Sunday. Still, even though she’s my Mum and by definition mums are supposed to be indestructible ;) she’s not a young thing anymore, so I daresay she won’t recover rapidly. Happy to be proven wrong on that count though!

Oh the poor lady. I hope she recovers fast.

bubba louie said:

AnneS said:

Yeehah said:

If anyone’s interested: a Yeehah’s Mum update -

SMS from my sister Christine“FINALLY gone to surgery, so much for ‘morning’. Will be a while. Dr will ring me. Dr said no heart attack, anaesthetist wasn’t so sure. Needs to stay off cigs or will be heart attack in next 3 years.”

Mum is having keyhole surgery to remove her gall bladder, she has a large stone causing pain (sorry if I repeat myself, can’t remember what I’ve said to whom), has been fasting since midnight, was told the surgeon would fit her into his operating schedule sometime, be ready just in case.

We won’t hear how she is until tomorrow I expect. I have 3 sisters, we all work fulltime. Chris lives nearby but can’t get away from work till about 4, so i’m not sure when I’ll get the next update.

I’m not too worried given the information to hand and very glad I saw Mum on Sunday. Still, even though she’s my Mum and by definition mums are supposed to be indestructible ;) she’s not a young thing anymore, so I daresay she won’t recover rapidly. Happy to be proven wrong on that count though!

Evening all. Update on my Mum while we are at it. She hs had an internal bleed but they don’t know why so will be doing an endoscopy on Thurs to find out why. So we are still waiting.

I hope they sort her out soon Anne.

Thanks bubba. After all the drama earlier in the year I wonder if this has something to do with that because her blood count has dropped again

bubba louie said:

bluegreen said:

Yeehah said:

I’m not too worried given the information to hand and very glad I saw Mum on Sunday. Still, even though she’s my Mum and by definition mums are supposed to be indestructible ;) she’s not a young thing anymore, so I daresay she won’t recover rapidly. Happy to be proven wrong on that count though!

I hope she does recover quickly, and takes not of the warning about the cigs too.

The keyhole surgery makes it soooo much easier. I was only in overnight and had hardly any pain.

Quick phone call to Mum this morning – she said they didn’t do keyhole, they had to cut her open (her words) and “it” was the size of a golf ball. Don’t know if “it” referst to the stone or the gall bladder. Sounds like she’s better off without whatever “it” was either way!

She said she feels like eating again … I had to cut the conversation short, didn’t get to ask if she felt like smoking. I think if she tries she’ll be facing some serious fallout from all and sundry!

Yeehah said:

She said she feels like eating again … I had to cut the conversation short, didn’t get to ask if she felt like smoking. I think if she tries she’ll be facing some serious fallout from all and sundry!

Splendid recovery in progress there!

Yeehah said:

bubba louie said:

bluegreen said:

I hope she does recover quickly, and takes not of the warning about the cigs too.

The keyhole surgery makes it soooo much easier. I was only in overnight and had hardly any pain.

Quick phone call to Mum this morning – she said they didn’t do keyhole, they had to cut her open (her words) and “it” was the size of a golf ball. Don’t know if “it” referst to the stone or the gall bladder. Sounds like she’s better off without whatever “it” was either way!

She said she feels like eating again … I had to cut the conversation short, didn’t get to ask if she felt like smoking. I think if she tries she’ll be facing some serious fallout from all and sundry!

Pity about the cutting but at least “it” is out.

Bumping up for Yeehah.

I like a quiet life…
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Thats complicated and not a situation I have ever been in, but I hope peace comes to you all asap and the WW settles down either way.

Happy Potter said:

Bumping up for Yeehah.

I like a quiet life…
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Thats complicated and not a situation I have ever been in, but I hope peace comes to you all asap and the WW settles down either way.

Last night a solicitor (who is a friend) came for dinner at the bush block with her husband, Mr Y, Littlemiss and I. We had a really lovely time.

In the course of conversation Mr Y asked about what could happen when the AVO matter against the Wicked Witch goes to court this morning.

It turns out the expectation is that it will be just a basic AVO preventing the WW from harming Littlemiss, but it doesn’t rule out Littlemiss spending time with her mum. Access continues but if the WW hurts Littlemiss again it becomes a criminal matter, i.e. WW could be charged with assault (or something).

Littlemiss has been asked to draw up a list of possessions that she wants back from her mother. She suspects if her mum has had a full-blown hissy fit she wouldn’t be surprised if her mum tossed out more of her stuff or taken things to the tip. Plus she needs things like her pencil case back so she can go to school next Monday.

I’ll hear from Mr Y later in the day about it.

Just had a phone call from my dad…. knew it was bad news from the way he was talking. My uncle died overnight, he’s my mum’s older brother. I lived with them for nearly a year working on a sheep station.

Lucky1 said:

Just had a phone call from my dad…. knew it was bad news from the way he was talking. My uncle died overnight, he’s my mum’s older brother. I lived with them for nearly a year working on a sheep station.

sorry to hear that Lucky :(

Lucky1 said:

Just had a phone call from my dad…. knew it was bad news from the way he was talking. My uncle died overnight, he’s my mum’s older brother. I lived with them for nearly a year working on a sheep station.

sad :(
(((hugs)))

Thanks, we used to call in and see him on the way up north to see my dad or Pat’s dad. Been a while since we have seen him and I am sad for that reason. He was a fun guy.

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

Just had a phone call from my dad…. knew it was bad news from the way he was talking. My uncle died overnight, he’s my mum’s older brother. I lived with them for nearly a year working on a sheep station.

sorry to hear that Lucky :(

yep with bg on this one sorry to hear the bad news lucky.

Thanks everyone.

Another phone call.

My uncle was looking after a sheep station and his wife couldn’t get him on the phone. Doreen stayed home near Adelaide. She rang the owners and they (I guess flew) to the property and found him out in a paddock. Body was flown to Adelaide for an autopsy and his brother thinks the funeral will be later this week coming/ early next week.

Uncle Brian died doing what he loved best….out in the outback looking after sheep. I have to hang onto that as I can’t bare the thought of his laying there and suffering until it was over. The outback is so brutal at times.

Lucky1 said:

Thanks everyone.

Another phone call.

My uncle was looking after a sheep station and his wife couldn’t get him on the phone. Doreen stayed home near Adelaide. She rang the owners and they (I guess flew) to the property and found him out in a paddock. Body was flown to Adelaide for an autopsy and his brother thinks the funeral will be later this week coming/ early next week.

Uncle Brian died doing what he loved best….out in the outback looking after sheep. I have to hang onto that as I can’t bare the thought of his laying there and suffering until it was over. The outback is so brutal at times.

That is sad news Lucky, my condolences to you and your family. :(

Lucky1 said:

Thanks everyone.

Another phone call.

My uncle was looking after a sheep station and his wife couldn’t get him on the phone. Doreen stayed home near Adelaide. She rang the owners and they (I guess flew) to the property and found him out in a paddock. Body was flown to Adelaide for an autopsy and his brother thinks the funeral will be later this week coming/ early next week.

Uncle Brian died doing what he loved best….out in the outback looking after sheep. I have to hang onto that as I can’t bare the thought of his laying there and suffering until it was over. The outback is so brutal at times.

Very sad, but as you say he was doinf what he loved best.

(((Double hugs)))

bluegreen said:

Lucky1 said:

Just had a phone call from my dad…. knew it was bad news from the way he was talking. My uncle died overnight, he’s my mum’s older brother. I lived with them for nearly a year working on a sheep station.

sorry to hear that Lucky :(

Yes, sorry to hear Lucky.

Lucky1 said:

Just had a phone call from my dad…. knew it was bad news from the way he was talking. My uncle died overnight, he’s my mum’s older brother. I lived with them for nearly a year working on a sheep station.

:( Sorry for your loss, Lucky.

bon008 said:

Lucky1 said:

Just had a phone call from my dad…. knew it was bad news from the way he was talking. My uncle died overnight, he’s my mum’s older brother. I lived with them for nearly a year working on a sheep station.

:( Sorry for your loss, Lucky.

my commiserations too – lucky1

Sorry to hear of your loss Lucky1.

Well he died with his boots on, but a loss for you just the same, Lucky…. my sympathies…

Littlefella back from his father’s place on Friday night :) He’s with me until Wednesday week.

We went shopping on Saturday and checked out flat screen tvs. Littlefella was all for buying a telly then and there but I’m trying to teach him the value of “wait” and “no” and “budget” and “living within one’s means”. We discussed prices and energy use and the fact that I have the car to rego shortly, a credit card that will suffer from that and a couple of other bills, that I want to pay off the car loan asap (hopefully a year early – and I explained how much interest that will save), plus we want to visit aunties (one in Canberra, one at the Gold Coast) in the next two school holidays. So we need to “wait” till at least September when the newer technology (3D which I refuse to have) will have pushed down the price of what I want (for lower-energy-using LED). Oh, and I have a week off in October school holidays too … not sure what the plan is yet, but it may have to be low-budget, visiting relatives, too.

Older Son arrived safely in Tasmania early on Sunday morning (according to Facebook).

Littlefella and I spent the day at the bush block with Mr Y and Littlemiss yesterday. The kids watched a movie, washed up and played board games. I cleaned the house and cooked lunch while Mr Y put the roof on the carport.

Main challenge of the day was getting Littlemiss’s room in some sort of order. The previous weekend we went through her clothes and passed a garbage bag full onto a friend. Yesterday we went through everything else. There’s a garbage bag and a box to take to the op shop, half a wheelie bin full of crap in the rubbish and a pile of cardboard and paper for the recycling. Gee it was hard work keeping her focused! But you can see the floor now and she has all her good stuff organised. Took me about 4 hours, mind … and then I started on Mr Y’s room. Aaagghhh! I know where she gets it from.

The aim of all this cleaning is to have room to rearrange furniture over a couple of weekends so that we can:
(1) put another coat of paving paint on the floors; and
(2) take down the shelves in Mr Y’s room, bog up the holes and repaint the whole room, ceiling and walls first then floor. Before Mr Y got the 12V lighting in we read by candlelight of an evening, and the whole room has dark grey stripes accenting the metal framework in the ceiling and walls.

Altogether a productive weekend.

The weeds have gotten away though, and sometime this week Mr Y will be picking up a secondhand mower/slasher (I didn’t quite understand what he meant when he described it) so we’ll have plenty to do next weekend too.

Yeehah said:

… and then I started on Mr Y’s room. Aaagghhh! I know where she gets it from.

lol!

Yeehah said:

Last night a solicitor (who is a friend) came for dinner at the bush block with her husband, Mr Y, Littlemiss and I. We had a really lovely time.

In the course of conversation Mr Y asked about what could happen when the AVO matter against the Wicked Witch goes to court this morning.

It turns out the expectation is that it will be just a basic AVO preventing the WW from harming Littlemiss, but it doesn’t rule out Littlemiss spending time with her mum. Access continues but if the WW hurts Littlemiss again it becomes a criminal matter, i.e. WW could be charged with assault (or something).

Littlemiss has been asked to draw up a list of possessions that she wants back from her mother. She suspects if her mum has had a full-blown hissy fit she wouldn’t be surprised if her mum tossed out more of her stuff or taken things to the tip. Plus she needs things like her pencil case back so she can go to school next Monday.

I’ll hear from Mr Y later in the day about it.

Btw … more info/feeback about Littlemiss’s situation.

The police instigated the AVO, it went to court on Thursday morning.

Mr Y tends to give me a bare-bones update but when I get him alone and able to ask lots of questions I get more information. So over the weekend I got the full update.

The Wicked Witch didn’t turn up for the hearing so it automatically went against her/was approved (whatever the terminology is! I’m a conveyancing secretary, no idea!). It prevents her from going within a certain distance of Littlemiss, her home, her school, etc. for a period of 12 months.

Mr Y went to Littlemiss’s school (she’s starting Year 6) and discussed it with the principal. He has to give a copy of the AVO to the principal, who will send it to the Dept Education legal department as they will have to decide what the principal is to do if WW turns up to collect Littlemiss for access visit as per the Consent Orders – the principal needs to know which document is the one that has precedence. So when the school gets their legal advice Mr Y will know where he stands.

When I was at their house on the weekend Littlemiss was quite philosophical about not seeing her mother for a year, but I pointed out to Mr Y that that could change as time goes on.

The Wicked Witch didn’t turn up for the hearing so it automatically went against her/was approved (whatever the terminology is! I’m a conveyancing secretary, no idea!).
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It was ‘granted’.

Hopefully Littlemiss will understand and you can get on with your lives a little easier knowing WW can’t be around to hurt the little girl.

:(

So sorry Lucky.

Yeehah said:

Yeehah said:

Last night a solicitor (who is a friend) came for dinner at the bush block with her husband, Mr Y, Littlemiss and I. We had a really lovely time.

In the course of conversation Mr Y asked about what could happen when the AVO matter against the Wicked Witch goes to court this morning.

It turns out the expectation is that it will be just a basic AVO preventing the WW from harming Littlemiss, but it doesn’t rule out Littlemiss spending time with her mum. Access continues but if the WW hurts Littlemiss again it becomes a criminal matter, i.e. WW could be charged with assault (or something).

Littlemiss has been asked to draw up a list of possessions that she wants back from her mother. She suspects if her mum has had a full-blown hissy fit she wouldn’t be surprised if her mum tossed out more of her stuff or taken things to the tip. Plus she needs things like her pencil case back so she can go to school next Monday.

I’ll hear from Mr Y later in the day about it.

Btw … more info/feeback about Littlemiss’s situation.

The police instigated the AVO, it went to court on Thursday morning.

Mr Y tends to give me a bare-bones update but when I get him alone and able to ask lots of questions I get more information. So over the weekend I got the full update.

The Wicked Witch didn’t turn up for the hearing so it automatically went against her/was approved (whatever the terminology is! I’m a conveyancing secretary, no idea!). It prevents her from going within a certain distance of Littlemiss, her home, her school, etc. for a period of 12 months.

Mr Y went to Littlemiss’s school (she’s starting Year 6) and discussed it with the principal. He has to give a copy of the AVO to the principal, who will send it to the Dept Education legal department as they will have to decide what the principal is to do if WW turns up to collect Littlemiss for access visit as per the Consent Orders – the principal needs to know which document is the one that has precedence. So when the school gets their legal advice Mr Y will know where he stands.

When I was at their house on the weekend Littlemiss was quite philosophical about not seeing her mother for a year, but I pointed out to Mr Y that that could change as time goes on.

That’s all very sad YH.