Looking at setting up an outside projector to watch movies on the back deck with. Anyone have any experience with em?
Recomendations? Advice? Pitfalls?
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Looking at setting up an outside projector to watch movies on the back deck with. Anyone have any experience with em?Recomendations? Advice? Pitfalls?
What, like yer classic Bell & Howell 16mm gear?
captain_spalding said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Looking at setting up an outside projector to watch movies on the back deck with. Anyone have any experience with em?Recomendations? Advice? Pitfalls?
What, like yer classic Bell & Howell 16mm gear?
more stuff that is at least later than the 20th century.
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Looking at setting up an outside projector to watch movies on the back deck with. Anyone have any experience with em?Recomendations? Advice? Pitfalls?
What, like yer classic Bell & Howell 16mm gear?
more stuff that is at least later than the 20th century.
Summat lahk thas, lad?
No one that I can stream or cast to.
I don’t wanna have to get the nerds from the audio visual club out each time to set it up dammit.
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:What, like yer classic Bell & Howell 16mm gear?
more stuff that is at least later than the 20th century.
Summat lahk thas, lad?
Watch home movies I reckon
What’s your budget, Trev?
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:more stuff that is at least later than the 20th century.
Summat lahk thas, lad?
Watch home movies I reckon
Mash. Think it’s from the episode when he left… two parter I think
captain_spalding said:
What’s your budget, Trev?
Up to about 1kish
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
captain_spalding said:
What’s your budget, Trev?
Up to about 1kish
Try here:
https://www.finder.com.au/projectors
or here:
https://au.pcmag.com/projectors/11498/the-best-projectors
I’ve been using projectors since the 1980s, and seen them come a long way. Back then, they were the size of a small suitcase, with three colour guns (RGB) and three big lenses, needing constant adjustment.
In more recent years, i can say that Sanyo, Epson and Samsung are the go for reliability, and pretty easy to use (but then they all are, really)
Check the output ports on your video source, and compare with what’s on the machines you’re interested in. As you probably know, it’s all HDMI and DisplayPort on current-day gear, but if you find that e.g. your DVD player has only VGA output (unlikely), at least you’ll know what cabling you’re going to need.
Okies Trev.
Some questions.
Do you want to watch it in the daytime?
What “source” will the “movies” come from? TV broadcasts? VHS? DVD? Blue-ray? 4K net streaming?
How big do you want the picture?
What do you intend to project it on to?
Booming cinema sound quality that will lift the house off it’s foundations? or a cuppla bedside clock radio speakers?
Forget those $159 LCD projectors you can get from the post office.
You won’t get much change out of $1200+ for HD and at least $3.5K for UHD/4K just for the projector. Then there’s the sound system and screen.
Don’t yet worry about LCD/DLP or laser just yet. Get these Q & A out of the way first.
BTW… forget using a nailed up white bedsheet for a screen.
Woodie said:
BTW… forget using a nailed up white bedsheet for a screen.
Yes. A ‘proper’ screen makes a difference.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
captain_spalding said:
What’s your budget, Trev?
Up to about 1kish
Oh dear…….
captain_spalding said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
captain_spalding said:
What’s your budget, Trev?
Up to about 1kish
Try here:
https://www.finder.com.au/projectors
or here:
https://au.pcmag.com/projectors/11498/the-best-projectors
I’ve been using projectors since the 1980s, and seen them come a long way. Back then, they were the size of a small suitcase, with three colour guns (RGB) and three big lenses, needing constant adjustment.
In more recent years, i can say that Sanyo, Epson and Samsung are the go for reliability, and pretty easy to use (but then they all are, really)
Check the output ports on your video source, and compare with what’s on the machines you’re interested in. As you probably know, it’s all HDMI and DisplayPort on current-day gear, but if you find that e.g. your DVD player has only VGA output (unlikely), at least you’ll know what cabling you’re going to need.
Awesome. Thanks. Will look.
I’m hoping I can just shove a chrome cast (hdmi?)into the thing and cast to it. I don’t have a DVD player anymore
Woodie said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
captain_spalding said:
What’s your budget, Trev?
Up to about 1kish
Oh dear…….
Oh they cost that much then eh?
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
captain_spalding said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Up to about 1kish
Try here:
https://www.finder.com.au/projectors
or here:
https://au.pcmag.com/projectors/11498/the-best-projectors
I’ve been using projectors since the 1980s, and seen them come a long way. Back then, they were the size of a small suitcase, with three colour guns (RGB) and three big lenses, needing constant adjustment.
In more recent years, i can say that Sanyo, Epson and Samsung are the go for reliability, and pretty easy to use (but then they all are, really)
Check the output ports on your video source, and compare with what’s on the machines you’re interested in. As you probably know, it’s all HDMI and DisplayPort on current-day gear, but if you find that e.g. your DVD player has only VGA output (unlikely), at least you’ll know what cabling you’re going to need.
Awesome. Thanks. Will look.
I’m hoping I can just shove a chrome cast (hdmi?)into the thing and cast to it. I don’t have a DVD player anymore
If it’s got HDMI input (of course it’ll have that; this is 2022) then you can almost certainly get Chromecast or similar to work with it. The gubbiins of the machine work just like your TV, after all. Check with the retailer, or even with the manufacturer.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Woodie said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Up to about 1kish
Oh dear…….
Oh they cost that much then eh?
Whatever you’ve got to spend, there’s a machine priced to take your money.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
captain_spalding said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Up to about 1kish
Try here:
https://www.finder.com.au/projectors
or here:
https://au.pcmag.com/projectors/11498/the-best-projectors
I’ve been using projectors since the 1980s, and seen them come a long way. Back then, they were the size of a small suitcase, with three colour guns (RGB) and three big lenses, needing constant adjustment.
In more recent years, i can say that Sanyo, Epson and Samsung are the go for reliability, and pretty easy to use (but then they all are, really)
Check the output ports on your video source, and compare with what’s on the machines you’re interested in. As you probably know, it’s all HDMI and DisplayPort on current-day gear, but if you find that e.g. your DVD player has only VGA output (unlikely), at least you’ll know what cabling you’re going to need.
Awesome. Thanks. Will look.
I’m hoping I can just shove a chrome cast (hdmi?)into the thing and cast to it. I don’t have a DVD player anymore
Chromecast is fine. You can control it from your streaming services via your phone. Don’t forget about sound. These projectors don’t have much more than beside clock radio speakers in them.
Do you already have a 5.1 (at least) surround sound system? Does it have HDMI inputs in out, and a HDMI out?
Woodie said:
Okies Trev.Some questions.
Do you want to watch it in the daytime?
What “source” will the “movies” come from? TV broadcasts? VHS? DVD? Blue-ray? 4K net streaming?
How big do you want the picture?
What do you intend to project it on to?
Booming cinema sound quality that will lift the house off it’s foundations? or a cuppla bedside clock radio speakers?Forget those $159 LCD projectors you can get from the post office.
You won’t get much change out of $1200+ for HD and at least $3.5K for UHD/4K just for the projector. Then there’s the sound system and screen.
Don’t yet worry about LCD/DLP or laser just yet. Get these Q & A out of the way first.
BTW… forget using a nailed up white bedsheet for a screen.
No day time stuff really just something for summer nights.
1.2 k is OK. I figured sound would be extra but that can be worked on after the visuals are sorted.
Screen too.figured that would be an added on cost. Looking at about 2m across…..Just want get the projector done for now tbh
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Woodie said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Up to about 1kish
Oh dear…….
Oh they cost that much then eh?
you get what you pay for. Unless you are prepared to blackout your back verandah every time you wanna watch something.
Oh…. forgot. Do you want 3D as well? Most projectors from about $1200 up will do 3D. The glasses are not that expensive.
Woodie said:
Oh…. forgot. Do you want 3D as well? Most projectors from about $1200 up will do 3D. The glasses are not that expensive.
I got my 3d glasses from a cinema…
Don’t despair, Trev.
To some extent, you do get what you pay for, but like everything else, there’s a point of diminishing returns.
Sure, you could spend $5,000 instead of $3,000, but does the idea of doing without that fractional improvement in video and sound quality bug you that much?
I suggest that you visit an ‘audio-visual specialist retailer’, if only for the experience. Or anywhere that has a ‘demonstration lounge’ set up. They can show you a range of variously-priced projectors, and you can judge for yourself what level of technical refinement will meet your needs.
A dedicated sound system is a boon, but you can also improvise/adapt/overcome.
I hooked an LED projector up to my home stereo amplifier and speakers, and i reckon it was just about as good as any suburban cinema, within the confines of the lounge room.
captain_spalding said:
Don’t despair, Trev.To some extent, you do get what you pay for, but like everything else, there’s a point of diminishing returns.
Sure, you could spend $5,000 instead of $3,000, but does the idea of doing without that fractional improvement in video and sound quality bug you that much?
I suggest that you visit an ‘audio-visual specialist retailer’, if only for the experience. Or anywhere that has a ‘demonstration lounge’ set up. They can show you a range of variously-priced projectors, and you can judge for yourself what level of technical refinement will meet your needs.
No it all good. I don’t need a cinematic equivalent system just something that we can watch while having a few on a Friday or Saturday night Movies, music videos that kind of thing
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
captain_spalding said:
Don’t despair, Trev.To some extent, you do get what you pay for, but like everything else, there’s a point of diminishing returns.
Sure, you could spend $5,000 instead of $3,000, but does the idea of doing without that fractional improvement in video and sound quality bug you that much?
I suggest that you visit an ‘audio-visual specialist retailer’, if only for the experience. Or anywhere that has a ‘demonstration lounge’ set up. They can show you a range of variously-priced projectors, and you can judge for yourself what level of technical refinement will meet your needs.
No it all good. I don’t need a cinematic equivalent system just something that we can watch while having a few on a Friday or Saturday night Movies, music videos that kind of thing
Yeah, unless you’re an ‘AV nut’, a low-middling priced device would probably satisfy the occasional video urge. I suggest that $1,000 is a reasonable budget for that. Gosh, i can remember when devices that people wouldn’t spare a glance for these days went for $10,000.
Still a good idea to get a demo, if you can, particularly with some ambient light about. As Woodie says, you don’t want a projector from which the image is visible only inside a darkened coal-mine at midnight.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Woodie said:
Okies Trev.Some questions.
Do you want to watch it in the daytime?
What “source” will the “movies” come from? TV broadcasts? VHS? DVD? Blue-ray? 4K net streaming?
How big do you want the picture?
What do you intend to project it on to?
Booming cinema sound quality that will lift the house off it’s foundations? or a cuppla bedside clock radio speakers?Forget those $159 LCD projectors you can get from the post office.
You won’t get much change out of $1200+ for HD and at least $3.5K for UHD/4K just for the projector. Then there’s the sound system and screen.
Don’t yet worry about LCD/DLP or laser just yet. Get these Q & A out of the way first.
BTW… forget using a nailed up white bedsheet for a screen.
No day time stuff really just something for summer nights.
1.2 k is OK. I figured sound would be extra but that can be worked on after the visuals are sorted.
Screen too.figured that would be an added on cost. Looking at about 2m across…..Just want get the projector done for now tbh
2 metres? Is that all????? 😁
BTW…. These things are not necessarily designed to tolerate being mounted outdoors, even if they are under cover. They are sensitive to humidity and dust. Replacement globes can be pricey. $250+ each.
I have an Epson 3D HD 1080p LCD projector mounted on the ceiling in the loungeroom. Projecting onto something similar to this
Then there’s the sound.
captain_spalding said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
captain_spalding said:
Don’t despair, Trev.To some extent, you do get what you pay for, but like everything else, there’s a point of diminishing returns.
Sure, you could spend $5,000 instead of $3,000, but does the idea of doing without that fractional improvement in video and sound quality bug you that much?
I suggest that you visit an ‘audio-visual specialist retailer’, if only for the experience. Or anywhere that has a ‘demonstration lounge’ set up. They can show you a range of variously-priced projectors, and you can judge for yourself what level of technical refinement will meet your needs.
No it all good. I don’t need a cinematic equivalent system just something that we can watch while having a few on a Friday or Saturday night Movies, music videos that kind of thing
Yeah, unless you’re an ‘AV nut’, a low-middling priced device would probably satisfy the occasional video urge. I suggest that $1,000 is a reasonable budget for that. Gosh, i can remember when devices that people wouldn’t spare a glance for these days went for $10,000.
Still a good idea to get a demo, if you can, particularly with some ambient light about. As Woodie says, you don’t want a projector from which the image is visible only inside a darkened coal-mine at midnight.
Mmm lumens per square meters and all that. I know nothing and have no experience at all
Replacement globes can be pricey.
Although…
…when the globes in some of the video projectors at the hospital went bung (older Sanyos, admittedly), a local AV outfit charged us $500 to replace them. Approx. $250 for the globe, approx. $250 for the fitting, with a 3 week delay.
I got curious, and went onto e-Bay. And i purchased, at my own expense, a suitable globe for $33 from China. It took about 3 weeks to arrive. And, when it became necessary, i fitted it myself in less than 15 mins.
Just as an experiment. AFAIK, that globe is still OK.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
captain_spalding said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:No it all good. I don’t need a cinematic equivalent system just something that we can watch while having a few on a Friday or Saturday night Movies, music videos that kind of thing
Yeah, unless you’re an ‘AV nut’, a low-middling priced device would probably satisfy the occasional video urge. I suggest that $1,000 is a reasonable budget for that. Gosh, i can remember when devices that people wouldn’t spare a glance for these days went for $10,000.
Still a good idea to get a demo, if you can, particularly with some ambient light about. As Woodie says, you don’t want a projector from which the image is visible only inside a darkened coal-mine at midnight.
Mmm lumens per square meters and all that. I know nothing and have no experience at all
They all measure their “lumens” differently. It’s not apples with apples.
Woodie said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
captain_spalding said:Yeah, unless you’re an ‘AV nut’, a low-middling priced device would probably satisfy the occasional video urge. I suggest that $1,000 is a reasonable budget for that. Gosh, i can remember when devices that people wouldn’t spare a glance for these days went for $10,000.
Still a good idea to get a demo, if you can, particularly with some ambient light about. As Woodie says, you don’t want a projector from which the image is visible only inside a darkened coal-mine at midnight.
Mmm lumens per square meters and all that. I know nothing and have no experience at all
They all measure their “lumens” differently. It’s not apples with apples.
OK got it just buy 1k of beer….
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Woodie said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Mmm lumens per square meters and all that. I know nothing and have no experience at all
They all measure their “lumens” differently. It’s not apples with apples.
OK got it just buy 1k of beer….
20 cartons of VB.
JudgeMental said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Woodie said:They all measure their “lumens” differently. It’s not apples with apples.
OK got it just buy 1k of beer….
20 cartons of VB.
Sure. I’ll drink vb.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
JudgeMental said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:OK got it just buy 1k of beer….
20 cartons of VB.
Sure. I’ll drink vb.
Me, too. I’ll drink whatever you’re paying for.