What do you know about it?

What is the best test for it? Ie distinguishing normal decine from dementia.
Looking for a test that can be taken twice some 6 months apart to show cognitive changes over a time period.

Background reading

The following article says that nobody knows what mental decline with age is. Because lateral studies are flawed due to differing education standards over time and because longitudinal studies are flawed due to the practice effect and due to rejecting participants who die before age 80.

Lateral studies show peak cognitive performance near age 25 and longitudinal studies give peak cognitive performance near age 60. Both types of studies separate cognitive performance into many different facets.

https://medium.com/psyc-406-2015/how-fast-does-iq-decline-can-you-do-anything-about-it-f5ca370d8b62

mollwollfumble said:

What do you know about it?

What is the best test for it? Ie distinguishing normal decine from dementia.
Looking for a test that can be taken twice some 6 months apart to show cognitive changes over a time period.

Background reading

The following article says that nobody knows what mental decline with age is. Because lateral studies are flawed due to differing education standards over time and because longitudinal studies are flawed due to the practice effect and due to rejecting participants who die before age 80.

Lateral studies show peak cognitive performance near age 25 and longitudinal studies give peak cognitive performance near age 60. Both types of studies separate cognitive performance into many different facets.

https://medium.com/psyc-406-2015/how-fast-does-iq-decline-can-you-do-anything-about-it-f5ca370d8b62

The Mini-Mental State Examination (MMSE) was first published in 1975 by M. F. Folstein et al. as an appendix to the Mini-mental state: A practical method for grading the cognitive state of patients for the clinician study. The MMSE was designed as a screening test for the purpose of evaluating cognitive impairment in older adults.
https://www.ihacpa.gov.au/health-care/classification/subacute-and-non-acute-care/standardised-mini-mental-state-examination

not so much to your point, but has me wondering what age peak wisdom is, I mean peak cognitive performance regard some subjects may come later in life

say, for example, as the force of desire (say emotions for a moment, but include the next) and instinct recede some, as psychological mindedness progresses say, along with experience surely some reflective capacity might be enhanced

cognitive ability might be peak during the twenties, but later on as the structures of brain (mind) soften, the force that tends, or tended to govern behavior change

say, hypothetically, humans minds have considerable instinct blindness, the thought penetration of thinking about thinking for example may be limited by displacement caused by force of desire, that sort of thing

just a few ideas, a starter argument against it all being decline

it’s increased by neurotropic viral infections

SCIENCE said:

it’s increased by neurotropic viral infections

PVS

mollwollfumble said:

SCIENCE said:

it’s increased by neurotropic viral infections

PVS

tobacco mosaic virus

SCIENCE said:

mollwollfumble said:

SCIENCE said:

it’s increased by neurotropic viral infections

PVS

tobacco mosaic virus

TMS is passed from human hand to Solanum, and Cymbidium alike.

poikilotherm said:

mollwollfumble said:

What do you know about it?

What is the best test for it? Ie distinguishing normal decine from dementia.
Looking for a test that can be taken twice some 6 months apart to show cognitive changes over a time period.

Background reading

The following article says that nobody knows what mental decline with age is. Because lateral studies are flawed due to differing education standards over time and because longitudinal studies are flawed due to the practice effect and due to rejecting participants who die before age 80.

Lateral studies show peak cognitive performance near age 25 and longitudinal studies give peak cognitive performance near age 60. Both types of studies separate cognitive performance into many different facets.

https://medium.com/psyc-406-2015/how-fast-does-iq-decline-can-you-do-anything-about-it-f5ca370d8b62

The Mini-Mental State Examination (MMSE) was first published in 1975 by M. F. Folstein et al. as an appendix to the Mini-mental state: A practical method for grading the cognitive state of patients for the clinician study. The MMSE was designed as a screening test for the purpose of evaluating cognitive impairment in older adults.
https://www.ihacpa.gov.au/health-care/classification/subacute-and-non-acute-care/standardised-mini-mental-state-examination

I had a look at MMSE. I don’t like it, because it’s not actually measuring cognitive impairment.

I’ll illustrate with three questions.

One question measures retirement. People score highly on it if they’re clock-watchers. Which is a sign of employment not cognition.

One question measures docility. You ask the patient to do a series of ridiculous tasks. Only docile acceptance scores highly. Not a measure of cognition.

One question measures physical impairment. A person who needs to concentrate on physical action in this case walking safety, scores poorly. Again not a measure of cognition.