Date: 3/12/2022 08:07:28
From: Ogmog
ID: 1962726
Subject: LIFE(?)
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Date: 3/12/2022 10:41:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1962760
Subject: re: LIFE(?)
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SCIENCE said:
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Don’t talk to me about life…
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
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Don’t talk to me about life…
It’s so incredibly boring.
Ogmog said:
LIFE!…or…
Summary?
“Xenobots are most definitely alive. Even though they are really just a Frankenstein of random frog stem cells, the cells have been shown to work together to move and heal. This displays a definite cohesion between the cells; regardless if the bots can eat or reproduce normally, these xenobots are living, multi-cellular organisms.”
SCIENCE said:
I didn’t know Humpbacks ate small fish as well as krill.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
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Don’t talk to me about life…
It’s so incredibly boring.
Says The Watchmaker
ironic
Ogmog said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:Don’t talk to me about life…
It’s so incredibly boring.
Says The Watchmaker
ironic
In a nutshell, Marvin is afflicted with severe depression and boredom, in part because he has a brain the size of a planet which he is seldom, if ever, given the chance to use.
Marvin: “I think you ought to know I’m feeling very depressed.”
Trillian: “Well, we have something that may take your mind off it.”
Marvin: “It won’t work, I have an exceptionally large mind.“
“Pardon me for breathing, which I never do anyway so I don’t know why I bother to say it, oh God, I’m so depressed. Here’s another one of those self-satisfied doors. Life! Don’t talk to me about life.” –Marvin
“I could calculate your chance of survival, but you won’t like it.” –Marvin
“My capacity for happiness, you could fit into a matchbox without taking out the matches first” –Marvin
roughbarked said:
Ogmog said:
roughbarked said:It’s so incredibly boring.
Says The Watchmaker
ironic
In a nutshell, Marvin is afflicted with severe depression and boredom, in part because he has a brain the size of a planet which he is seldom, if ever, given the chance to use.
Marvin: “I think you ought to know I’m feeling very depressed.”
Trillian: “Well, we have something that may take your mind off it.”
Marvin: “It won’t work, I have an exceptionally large mind.““Pardon me for breathing, which I never do anyway so I don’t know why I bother to say it, oh God, I’m so depressed. Here’s another one of those self-satisfied doors. Life! Don’t talk to me about life.” –Marvin
“I could calculate your chance of survival, but you won’t like it.” –Marvin
“My capacity for happiness, you could fit into a matchbox without taking out the matches first” –Marvin
https://youtu.be/uWh3k-BQrbc?t=19
Definition of Life.
1. A cellular automaton invented by James Horton Conway.
2. The Lay Institute For Evangelism
transition said:
roughbarked said:
Ogmog said:Says The Watchmaker
ironic
In a nutshell, Marvin is afflicted with severe depression and boredom, in part because he has a brain the size of a planet which he is seldom, if ever, given the chance to use.
Marvin: “I think you ought to know I’m feeling very depressed.”
Trillian: “Well, we have something that may take your mind off it.”
Marvin: “It won’t work, I have an exceptionally large mind.““Pardon me for breathing, which I never do anyway so I don’t know why I bother to say it, oh God, I’m so depressed. Here’s another one of those self-satisfied doors. Life! Don’t talk to me about life.” –Marvin
“I could calculate your chance of survival, but you won’t like it.” –Marvin
“My capacity for happiness, you could fit into a matchbox without taking out the matches first” –Marvin
https://youtu.be/uWh3k-BQrbc?t=19
Audio book of: Restaurant at the end of the universe
roughbarked said:
Ogmog said:
roughbarked said:It’s so incredibly boring.
Says The Watchmaker
ironic
In a nutshell, Marvin is afflicted with severe depression and boredom, in part because he has a brain the size of a planet which he is seldom, if ever, given the chance to use.
Marvin: “I think you ought to know I’m feeling very depressed.”
Trillian: “Well, we have something that may take your mind off it.”
Marvin: “It won’t work, I have an exceptionally large mind.““Pardon me for breathing, which I never do anyway so I don’t know why I bother to say it, oh God, I’m so depressed. Here’s another one of those self-satisfied doors. Life! Don’t talk to me about life.” –Marvin
“I could calculate your chance of survival, but you won’t like it.” –Marvin
“My capacity for happiness, you could fit into a matchbox without taking out the matches first” –Marvin
“The first ten million years were the worst,” said Marvin, “and the second ten million years, they were the worst too. The third ten million years I didn’t enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline.”
it’s life Jim, but not as we know it!
roughbarked said:
transition said:
roughbarked said:In a nutshell, Marvin is afflicted with severe depression and boredom, in part because he has a brain the size of a planet which he is seldom, if ever, given the chance to use.
Marvin: “I think you ought to know I’m feeling very depressed.”
Trillian: “Well, we have something that may take your mind off it.”
Marvin: “It won’t work, I have an exceptionally large mind.““Pardon me for breathing, which I never do anyway so I don’t know why I bother to say it, oh God, I’m so depressed. Here’s another one of those self-satisfied doors. Life! Don’t talk to me about life.” –Marvin
“I could calculate your chance of survival, but you won’t like it.” –Marvin
“My capacity for happiness, you could fit into a matchbox without taking out the matches first” –Marvin
https://youtu.be/uWh3k-BQrbc?t=19
Audio book of: Restaurant at the end of the universe
mist that one entirely
,,,my bad…
JudgeMental said:
it’s life Jim, but not as we know it!
well…
the Big “G”
dint get it right
at first neither :-p
JudgeMental said:
it’s life Jim, but not as we know it!
just caught an episode of “Kung Fu”
guest starring
…sad…
too say he has the gift of “over acting”
is putting it mildly
Ogmog said:
JudgeMental said:
it’s life Jim, but not as we know it!
just caught an episode of “Kung Fu”
guest starring
…sad…too say he has the gift of “over acting”
is putting it mildly
He wasn’t acting when he killed himself by autoerotic asphyxiation.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Ogmog said:
JudgeMental said:
it’s life Jim, but not as we know it!
just caught an episode of “Kung Fu”
guest starring
…sad…too say he has the gift of “over acting”
is putting it mildly
He wasn’t acting when he killed himself by autoerotic asphyxiation.
Mr Spock killed himself by autoerotic asphyxiation?
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Ogmog said:just caught an episode of “Kung Fu”
guest starring
…sad…too say he has the gift of “over acting”
is putting it mildly
He wasn’t acting when he killed himself by autoerotic asphyxiation.
Mr Spock killed himself by autoerotic asphyxiation?
Sorry I thought Ogmog was referring to David Carradine.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:He wasn’t acting when he killed himself by autoerotic asphyxiation.
Mr Spock killed himself by autoerotic asphyxiation?
Sorry I thought Ogmog was referring to David Carradine.
He was the main star, not a guest star.
But he might have meant William Shatner.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:He wasn’t acting when he killed himself by autoerotic asphyxiation.
Mr Spock killed himself by autoerotic asphyxiation?
Sorry I thought Ogmog was referring to David Carradine.
You’re delirious and not thinking straight.
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:Mr Spock killed himself by autoerotic asphyxiation?
Sorry I thought Ogmog was referring to David Carradine.
You’re delirious and not thinking straight.
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:Mr Spock killed himself by autoerotic asphyxiation?
Sorry I thought Ogmog was referring to David Carradine.
You’re delirious and not thinking straight.
Not running a fever so it’s just my usual baseline deliria.
Bubblecar said:
But he might have meant William Shatner.
…looks like it. Shatner over-acted Captain Brandywine Gage on two episodes of Kung Fu.
Kung Fu: Caine vs William Shatner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rXj0fejzN0
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
But he might have meant William Shatner.
…looks like it. Shatner over-acted Captain Brandywine Gage on two episodes of Kung Fu.
He was a long haired lout until he joined the military, became a member of the Federation and made a name tor himself fighting the Borg.
Ogmog said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:https://youtu.be/uWh3k-BQrbc?t=19
Audio book of: Restaurant at the end of the universe
mist that one entirely
,,,my bad…
Marvin: I’ve been communicating with the ship.
Ford: What did it say?
Marvin: It hates me.
“You think you’ve got problems? What are you supposed to do if you are a manically depressed robot? No, don’t try to answer that. I’m fifty thousand times more intelligent than you and even I don’t know the answer. It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level.”
“There’s only one life-form as intelligent as me within thirty parsecs of here and that’s me.”
“I wish you’d just tell me rather trying to engage my enthusiasm because I haven’t got one.”
“And then, of course, I’ve got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left side.”
What is best in life?
JudgeMental said:
What is best in life?
Itself.
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
What is best in life?
Itself.
The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
JudgeMental said:
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
What is best in life?
Itself.
The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Unfortunately I’ve not really experienced much of that other than the wind iin my hair. No steppes around here.
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
What is best in life?
Itself.
as usual
your wisdom
lies in your brevity
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
But he might have meant William Shatner.
…looks like it. Shatner over-acted Captain Brandywine Gage on two episodes of Kung Fu.
DING
Give the man a CIGAR!
I was indeed referring to William SHITner
Sorry… my puter gave out with a HicCup which resulted in the eraser of his name.
When I reiterated the line I must have hit POST by mischance
before leaving the scene of the crime until just now
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Sorry I thought Ogmog was referring to David Carradine.
You’re delirious and not thinking straight.
Soon oh soon the light
Pass within and soothe this endless night
And wait here for you
Our reason to be here
Soon oh soon the time
All we move to gain will reach and calm
Our heart is open
Our reason to be here
Long ago, set into rhyme
Soon oh soon the light
Ours to shape for all time, ours the right
The sun will lead us
Our reason to be here
Soon oh soon the light
Ours to shape for all time, ours the right
The sun will lead us
Our reason to be here
*
*
some day I hope to relate to you
the significance of that song throughout my journey
beginning 46 years ago and leading to this moment …and beyond……….
What would be the point of the universe if there was no life in it.
Peak Warming Man said:
What would be the point of the universe if there was no life in it.
it wouldn’t matter as if there was no life this question would be moot.
JudgeMental said:
What is best in life?
“To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.”
Thomo said:
JudgeMental said:
What is best in life?
“To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.”
When did Putin pinch your alias?
JudgeMental said:
What is best in life?
Probably the scene where they are fighting over the cornbreadz that’s pretty funny.
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
What would be the point of the universe if there was no life in it.
it wouldn’t matter as if there was no life this question would be moot.
Apart from which, what makes you think the universe has a “point”?
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
What would be the point of the universe if there was no life in it.
it wouldn’t matter as if there was no life this question would be moot.
Apart from which, what makes you think the universe has a “point”?
yes, everyone one knows it is a sphere.
Thomo said:
JudgeMental said:
What is best in life?
“To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.”
You barbarian
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
What would be the point of the universe if there was no life in it.
it wouldn’t matter as if there was no life this question would be moot.
Apart from which, what makes you think the universe has a “point”?
What? do you think God made the universe in his garage one rainy Sunday afternoon and then just left it and his son eventually found it and was playing in it when he tragically died or something?
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:it wouldn’t matter as if there was no life this question would be moot.
Apart from which, what makes you think the universe has a “point”?
What? do you think God made the universe in his garage one rainy Sunday afternoon and then just left it and his son eventually found it and was playing in it when he tragically died or something?
This may come as a shock to you, but no, that isn’t what I think.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Apart from which, what makes you think the universe has a “point”?
What? do you think God made the universe in his garage one rainy Sunday afternoon and then just left it and his son eventually found it and was playing in it when he tragically died or something?
This may come as a shock to you, but no, that isn’t what I think.
LOL, I knew god was coming into it.
Hmmm…
A discussion of God which we know does not exist who allegedly created life and the universe which we know does exist.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:it wouldn’t matter as if there was no life this question would be moot.
Apart from which, what makes you think the universe has a “point”?
What? do you think God made the universe in his garage one rainy Sunday afternoon and then just left it and his son eventually found it and was playing in it when he tragically died or something?
God, funny thing maybe, could be a metaphor for all the accidents through history, sort of an inverted metaphor, and here the we are within the happened upon now, with the happened upon reflections about that, how it all came to be, and who is God today I wonder, what constructions might pass instead for, or of what you might be inclined to deconstruct, God in another form, the inverted God
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:it wouldn’t matter as if there was no life this question would be moot.
Apart from which, what makes you think the universe has a “point”?
yes, everyone one knows it is a sphere.
that has a central point
JudgeMental said:
What is best in life?
unquestionably this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=xP5-iIeKXE8
but
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Apart from which, what makes you think the universe has a “point”?
yes, everyone one knows it is a sphere.
that has a central point
me.
JudgeMental said:
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:yes, everyone one knows it is a sphere.
that has a central point
me.
meh.
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Apart from which, what makes you think the universe has a “point”?
yes, everyone one knows it is a sphere.
that has a central point
From what I have read about the big bang, there is no point, the thinking is all the particles appeared at once, simultaneously, then over time expanded outwards.
JudgeMental said:
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:yes, everyone one knows it is a sphere.
that has a central point
me.
Your arsehole to be exact.
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
SCIENCE said:that has a central point
me.
Your arsehole to be exact.
what I find funny is that the centre of the Universe is centred on every individual. we are all at the centre of the Universe. So these slurs against myself equally apply to those that are slinging them. so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
:-)
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:me.
Your arsehole to be exact.
what I find funny is that the centre of the Universe is centred on every individual. we are all at the centre of the Universe. So these slurs against myself equally apply to those that are slinging them. so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
:-)
Agreed.
Although I’m pretty sure my centre of mass is well above my arsehole.
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Your arsehole to be exact.
what I find funny is that the centre of the Universe is centred on every individual. we are all at the centre of the Universe. So these slurs against myself equally apply to those that are slinging them. so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
:-)
Agreed.
Although I’m pretty sure my centre of mass is well above my arsehole.
Also I have yet to see any evidence that the Universe is not finite with a centre, which is almost certainly not the arsehole of anyone on this planet.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:yes, everyone one knows it is a sphere.
that has a central point
From what I have read about the big bang, there is no point, the thinking is all the particles appeared at once, simultaneously, then over time expanded outwards.
So an expanding universe.
Three options from what I know.
An infinite universe
A finite universe with a wall or some form of barrier.
Einstein came up with a third option – an expanding universe that is finite but closed, a finite area with no boundary.
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:what I find funny is that the centre of the Universe is centred on every individual. we are all at the centre of the Universe. So these slurs against myself equally apply to those that are slinging them. so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
:-)
Agreed.
Although I’m pretty sure my centre of mass is well above my arsehole.
Also I have yet to see any evidence that the Universe is not finite with a centre, which is almost certainly not the arsehole of anyone on this planet.
usually when talking the centre of the universe we just mean the observable bit.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:that has a central point
From what I have read about the big bang, there is no point, the thinking is all the particles appeared at once, simultaneously, then over time expanded outwards.
So an expanding universe.
Three options from what I know.
An infinite universe
A finite universe with a wall or some form of barrier.
Einstein came up with a third option – an expanding universe that is finite but closed, a finite area with no boundary.
not sure 2 and 3 are in the game. a wall or barrier would be really problematic. we don’t think the universe is closed.
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Agreed.
Although I’m pretty sure my centre of mass is well above my arsehole.
Also I have yet to see any evidence that the Universe is not finite with a centre, which is almost certainly not the arsehole of anyone on this planet.
usually when talking the centre of the universe we just mean the observable bit.
Isn’t the observable universe equidistant in all directions?
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Also I have yet to see any evidence that the Universe is not finite with a centre, which is almost certainly not the arsehole of anyone on this planet.
usually when talking the centre of the universe we just mean the observable bit.
Isn’t the observable universe equidistant in all directions?
yes, so we are at the centre. just as someone somewhere else in the OU is at the centre of their OU
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:usually when talking the centre of the universe we just mean the observable bit.
Isn’t the observable universe equidistant in all directions?
yes, so we are at the centre. just as someone somewhere else in the OU is at the centre of their OU
If the universe did have a centre would you even be able to work out where it was given the size of what we can observe
JudgeMental said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:From what I have read about the big bang, there is no point, the thinking is all the particles appeared at once, simultaneously, then over time expanded outwards.
So an expanding universe.
Three options from what I know.
An infinite universe
A finite universe with a wall or some form of barrier.
Einstein came up with a third option – an expanding universe that is finite but closed, a finite area with no boundary.not sure 2 and 3 are in the game. a wall or barrier would be really problematic. we don’t think the universe is closed.
Yes I got muddled up
General relativity allows for three models Open, Closed or Flat.
The current thinking is a Flat infinite universe.
The difference between the three.
Flat
Most cosmological evidence points to the universe’s density as being just right — the equivalent of around six protons per 1.3 cubic yards — and that it expands in every direction without curving positively or negatively. In other words, the universe is flat.
Open
If the universe’s density is low and unable to stop the expansion, space will warp in the opposite direction. This would form an open universe with negative curvature resembling a saddle.
Closed
If the universe’s density is great enough for its gravity to overcome the force of expansion, then the universe will curl into a ball. This is known as the closed model, with positive curvature resembling a sphere.
https://astronomy.com/news/2021/02/what-shape-is-the-universe
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Agreed.
Although I’m pretty sure my centre of mass is well above my arsehole.
Also I have yet to see any evidence that the Universe is not finite with a centre, which is almost certainly not the arsehole of anyone on this planet.
usually when talking the centre of the universe we just mean the observable bit.
As it’s not Friday, I’ll let that one pass.
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Also I have yet to see any evidence that the Universe is not finite with a centre, which is almost certainly not the arsehole of anyone on this planet.
usually when talking the centre of the universe we just mean the observable bit.
As it’s not Friday, I’ll let that one pass.
We are assuming the universe exists outside of the observable part, I imagine gravity outside the observable part influences what’s inside it though
Cymek said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:usually when talking the centre of the universe we just mean the observable bit.
As it’s not Friday, I’ll let that one pass.
We are assuming the universe exists outside of the observable part, I imagine gravity outside the observable part influences what’s inside it though
Yes.
> Flat
> Most cosmological evidence points to the universe’s density as being just right — the equivalent of around six protons per 1.3 cubic yards — and that it expands in every direction without curving positively or negatively. In other words, the universe is flat.
Yep.
> Also I have yet to see any evidence that the Universe is not finite with a centre
With the “eternal inflation” cosmology the universe is finite with a centre, but it is irregular in shape.
transition said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Apart from which, what makes you think the universe has a “point”?
What? do you think God made the universe in his garage one rainy Sunday afternoon and then just left it and his son eventually found it and was playing in it when he tragically died or something?
God, funny thing maybe, could be a metaphor for all the accidents through history, sort of an inverted metaphor, and here the we are within the happened upon now, with the happened upon reflections about that, how it all came to be, and who is God today I wonder, what constructions might pass instead for, or of what you might be inclined to deconstruct, God in another form, the inverted God
Oggod?
mollwollfumble said:
> Flat
> Most cosmological evidence points to the universe’s density as being just right — the equivalent of around six protons per 1.3 cubic yards — and that it expands in every direction without curving positively or negatively. In other words, the universe is flat.Yep.
> Also I have yet to see any evidence that the Universe is not finite with a centre
With the “eternal inflation” cosmology the universe is finite with a centre, but it is irregular in shape.
