Date: 12/12/2022 15:37:06
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1966012
Subject: New branch on Tree of Life contains organisms unlike any others on Earth


A microscope image of a Provoran, a micro-organism from the newly discovered supergroupTikhonenkov, Mikhailov, Gawryluk, Belyaev, Mathur, Karpov, Zagumyonnyi, Borodina, Prokina, Mylnikov, Aleoshin, and Keeling, Nature

Scientists have discovered a completely new branch on the tree of life. This “supergroup” contains an incredibly diverse range of predatory microbes that are extremely different genetically from any other form of life on Earth.

The tree of life is a useful diagram for understanding the relationships between different forms of life, present and extinct. The trunks are made up of three broad groups called domains – Bacteria, Archaea and Eukaryota – which then branch into kingdoms such as animals and fungi. From there the branches become more and more specific until you reach individual species.

The new discovery adds quite a major bough to the tree – Provora. These lifeforms make up a category informally called a “supergroup,” which sits below domains and can contain multiple kingdoms.

“This is an ancient branch of the tree of life that is roughly as diverse as the animal and fungi kingdoms combined, and no one knew it was there,” said Dr. Patrick Keeling, senior author of the study.

Members of the Provora supergroup are tiny organisms that the team describes as the “lions of the microbial world.” That’s because they prey upon other microbes, and within their ecosystem they’re relatively rare. The supergroup is further divided into two clades – the “nibblerids,” which use tooth-like structures to nibble chunks off their prey, and the “nebulids,” which engulf their prey whole.

The team discovered this new kind of life in samples taken from around the world, including the coral reefs in Curaçao, sediment from the Black and Red seas and water from the Pacific and Arctic oceans. The researchers’ attention was drawn to strange microbes with two flagella, allowing them to spin or swim very quickly. They also had a tendency to quickly gobble up any other microbes unfortunate enough to be kept in the same water samples. When the scientists examined their DNA more closely, it became clear just how weird these new microbes really were.

“In the taxonomy of living organisms, we often use the gene ‘18S rRNA’ to describe genetic difference,” said Dr. Denis Tikhonenkov, first author of the study. “For example, humans differ from guinea pigs in this gene by only six nucleotides. We were surprised to find that these predatory microbes differ by 170 to 180 nucleotides in the 18S rRNA gene from every other living thing on Earth. It became clear that we had discovered something completely new and amazing.”

Next, the team plans to sequence the whole genomes of these new organisms and build 3D models of their cells, to learn more about them.

The research was published in the journal Nature.

https://newatlas.com/biology/tree-of-life-new-branch-unique-predator-organisms/

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Date: 12/12/2022 15:49:28
From: dv
ID: 1966014
Subject: re: New branch on Tree of Life contains organisms unlike any others on Earth

Nice

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Date: 12/12/2022 16:13:19
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1966018
Subject: re: New branch on Tree of Life contains organisms unlike any others on Earth

dv said:


Nice

About as close as you are going to get to an alien living amongst us.

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Date: 12/12/2022 21:13:48
From: KJW
ID: 1966088
Subject: re: New branch on Tree of Life contains organisms unlike any others on Earth

PermeateFree said:

“In the taxonomy of living organisms, we often use the gene ‘18S rRNA’ to describe genetic difference,” said Dr. Denis Tikhonenkov

Well, if there ever was a single gene to study the tree of life, ‘18S rRNA’ would be it.

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Date: 13/12/2022 06:06:29
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1966151
Subject: re: New branch on Tree of Life contains organisms unlike any others on Earth

KJW said:


PermeateFree said:
“In the taxonomy of living organisms, we often use the gene ‘18S rRNA’ to describe genetic difference,” said Dr. Denis Tikhonenkov

Well, if there ever was a single gene to study the tree of life, ‘18S rRNA’ would be it.

That is so old-hat. This was a big thing in the 1970s, and the genetic tree of life was originally based on this small unit ribosomal RNA gene. This was followed by the cytochrome c gene. And then mitochondrial DNA. Even at this stage, gene swapping between organisms caused major errors to appear.

Thankfully, those days are long gone and now we use entire genomes.

I know of flagellates with two flagella from that famous micro-organism Dunaliella salina. “Due to the abundance of β-carotene, which is an anti-oxidant as well as a vitamin A precursor, D. salina is a popular pro-vitamin A food supplement and cosmetic additive.” If I remember correctly, this has two flagella and an eye spot.

“New branch of the tree of life” is in addition to existing branches. Here are some existing branches (this is out of date, there are many more branches now, including my favourite “obazoa”). Do we really need more?

Here is where the new Provora branch fits. Humans are “obazoa” on this chart. Overall, this new find is quite weird because flagellates (such as human sperm) are all opisthokonta which sits under obazoa. So what this new discovery is claiming is that flagella evolved twice. One in the single flagella opisthokonta, and independently in the two flagella porova.

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Date: 13/12/2022 17:46:13
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1966436
Subject: re: New branch on Tree of Life contains organisms unlike any others on Earth

mollwollfumble said:


KJW said:

PermeateFree said:
“In the taxonomy of living organisms, we often use the gene ‘18S rRNA’ to describe genetic difference,” said Dr. Denis Tikhonenkov

Well, if there ever was a single gene to study the tree of life, ‘18S rRNA’ would be it.

That is so old-hat. This was a big thing in the 1970s, and the genetic tree of life was originally based on this small unit ribosomal RNA gene. This was followed by the cytochrome c gene. And then mitochondrial DNA. Even at this stage, gene swapping between organisms caused major errors to appear.

Thankfully, those days are long gone and now we use entire genomes.

I know of flagellates with two flagella from that famous micro-organism Dunaliella salina. “Due to the abundance of β-carotene, which is an anti-oxidant as well as a vitamin A precursor, D. salina is a popular pro-vitamin A food supplement and cosmetic additive.” If I remember correctly, this has two flagella and an eye spot.

“New branch of the tree of life” is in addition to existing branches. Here are some existing branches (this is out of date, there are many more branches now, including my favourite “obazoa”). Do we really need more?

Here is where the new Provora branch fits. Humans are “obazoa” on this chart. Overall, this new find is quite weird because flagellates (such as human sperm) are all opisthokonta which sits under obazoa. So what this new discovery is claiming is that flagella evolved twice. One in the single flagella opisthokonta, and independently in the two flagella porova.


The genes coding for 18S rRNA are referred to as 18S rRNA genes. Sequence data from these genes is widely used in molecular analysis to reconstruct the evolutionary history of organisms, especially in vertebrates, as its slow evolutionary rate makes it suitable to reconstruct ancient divergences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18S_ribosomal_RNA

Provora is a proposed supergroup of eukaryotes made up of predatory microbes, “devouring voracious protists”. It was reported that ten strains were isolated and cultured in 2022. They are predators of other microorganism. Their discovery was very delayed, compared to other microorganisms in their environments, due to their rarity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provora

You are really a bloody big waste of time moll. Constantly, spreading misinformation to distort and belittle major discoveries and have it replaced with the crap that revolves around your befuddled brain.

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Date: 14/12/2022 14:53:17
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1966947
Subject: re: New branch on Tree of Life contains organisms unlike any others on Earth

> The genes coding for 18S rRNA are referred to as 18S rRNA genes. Sequence data from these genes is widely used in molecular analysis to reconstruct the evolutionary history of organisms, especially in vertebrates, as its slow evolutionary rate makes it suitable to reconstruct ancient divergences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18S_ribosomal_RNA

Well, duh. I’ve known that for at least 45 years.

> Provora is a proposed supergroup of eukaryotes made up of predatory microbes, “devouring voracious protists”. It was reported that ten strains were isolated and cultured in 2022. They are predators of other microorganism. Their discovery was very delayed, compared to other microorganisms in their environments, due to their rarity.

Well, duh, that was in the original post.

Why restate the bleeding obvious?

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Date: 14/12/2022 14:59:50
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1966949
Subject: re: New branch on Tree of Life contains organisms unlike any others on Earth

mollwollfumble said:


> The genes coding for 18S rRNA are referred to as 18S rRNA genes. Sequence data from these genes is widely used in molecular analysis to reconstruct the evolutionary history of organisms, especially in vertebrates, as its slow evolutionary rate makes it suitable to reconstruct ancient divergences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18S_ribosomal_RNA

Well, duh. I’ve known that for at least 45 years.

> Provora is a proposed supergroup of eukaryotes made up of predatory microbes, “devouring voracious protists”. It was reported that ten strains were isolated and cultured in 2022. They are predators of other microorganism. Their discovery was very delayed, compared to other microorganisms in their environments, due to their rarity.

Well, duh, that was in the original post.

Why restate the bleeding obvious?

Because you disregard articles unless they agree with the faulty memory dating back several decades. Why you cannot just read the articles and appreciate the information presented and then make pertinent comment instead of pulling crap from the back of your brain that is either not relevant, out of date or a figment of your imagination.

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