Date: 13/12/2022 10:36:57
From: ms spock
ID: 1966193
Subject: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/irish.php

https://www.duolingo.com/course/ga/en/Learn-Irish

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-10-places-to-learn-the-irish-language-in-ireland/

https://www.ucd.ie/bnag/en/

https://www.ucd.ie/irish/en/global/

https://www.cnag.ie/ga/

https://www.gaelchultur.com/en/home.aspx

https://www.gael-linn.ie/en/courses/adult-courses/110-2/

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-5-best-places-for-learning-irish-online/

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-10-places-to-learn-the-irish-language-in-ireland/

Anyone with any suggestions?

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Date: 13/12/2022 10:41:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1966197
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:

https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/irish.php

https://www.duolingo.com/course/ga/en/Learn-Irish

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-10-places-to-learn-the-irish-language-in-ireland/

https://www.ucd.ie/bnag/en/

https://www.ucd.ie/irish/en/global/

https://www.cnag.ie/ga/

https://www.gaelchultur.com/en/home.aspx

https://www.gael-linn.ie/en/courses/adult-courses/110-2/

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-5-best-places-for-learning-irish-online/

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-10-places-to-learn-the-irish-language-in-ireland/

Anyone with any suggestions?

Are you of Irish stock?

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Date: 13/12/2022 10:49:03
From: ms spock
ID: 1966210
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/irish.php

https://www.duolingo.com/course/ga/en/Learn-Irish

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-10-places-to-learn-the-irish-language-in-ireland/

https://www.ucd.ie/bnag/en/

https://www.ucd.ie/irish/en/global/

https://www.cnag.ie/ga/

https://www.gaelchultur.com/en/home.aspx

https://www.gael-linn.ie/en/courses/adult-courses/110-2/

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-5-best-places-for-learning-irish-online/

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-10-places-to-learn-the-irish-language-in-ireland/

Anyone with any suggestions?

Are you of Irish stock?

Yes my grandfather spoke Gaelic with his mother and grandmother. Trying to claw one positive thing from my family!

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Date: 13/12/2022 12:55:05
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1966348
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

> Anyone with any suggestions?

I’m reading a good book for learning Chinese.
Slightly more useful?

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Date: 13/12/2022 14:29:31
From: ms spock
ID: 1966385
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

mollwollfumble said:


> Anyone with any suggestions?

I’m reading a good book for learning Chinese.
Slightly more useful?

Wow learning Chinese sounds interesting! Where did you get the book? Are you learning Chinese? What is the name of the book?

Gaelic is useful for the words and concepts that the English colonisers enforced upon the Irish. There’s actually a lot of speakers on social media that you can chat with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRIaLSdRMMs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM3ISST2eg8

It is like a heritage connection, which is important to me.

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Date: 13/12/2022 15:23:54
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1966392
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


mollwollfumble said:

> Anyone with any suggestions?

I’m reading a good book for learning Chinese.
Slightly more useful?

Wow learning Chinese sounds interesting! Where did you get the book? Are you learning Chinese? What is the name of the book?

Gaelic is useful for the words and concepts that the English colonisers enforced upon the Irish. There’s actually a lot of speakers on social media that you can chat with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRIaLSdRMMs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM3ISST2eg8

It is like a heritage connection, which is important to me.

> It is like a heritage connection, which is important to me.

I can understand that.
I have English, Scots and Irish (both north and south) heritage myself, with a bit of Dutch further back.

This is the book. I’m not learning Chinese, I picked it up to read for fun.

I like the Chinese grammar.

Particularly how they turn a statement into a question.

Australian “You studied Chinese?”
Chinese “You studied Chinese?”
English “Did you study Chinese?”

Australian “You don’t know him?”
Chinese “You not know him?”
English “Don’t you know him?

Australian “You want which kind?”
Chinese “You want which one kind?”
English “Which kind do you want?”

The Chinese grammar is closer to Australian than the English grammar is. ;-)

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Date: 13/12/2022 15:24:03
From: ms spock
ID: 1966394
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dulim5PrKI

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Date: 13/12/2022 19:21:36
From: ms spock
ID: 1966467
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

mollwollfumble said:


ms spock said:

mollwollfumble said:

> Anyone with any suggestions?

I’m reading a good book for learning Chinese.
Slightly more useful?

Wow learning Chinese sounds interesting! Where did you get the book? Are you learning Chinese? What is the name of the book?

Gaelic is useful for the words and concepts that the English colonisers enforced upon the Irish. There’s actually a lot of speakers on social media that you can chat with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRIaLSdRMMs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM3ISST2eg8

It is like a heritage connection, which is important to me.

> It is like a heritage connection, which is important to me.

I can understand that.
I have English, Scots and Irish (both north and south) heritage myself, with a bit of Dutch further back.

This is the book. I’m not learning Chinese, I picked it up to read for fun.

That’s a pretty cool looking book.

I like the Chinese grammar.

Particularly how they turn a statement into a question.

Australian “You studied Chinese?”
Chinese “You studied Chinese?”
English “Did you study Chinese?”

Australian “You don’t know him?”
Chinese “You not know him?”
English “Don’t you know him?

Australian “You want which kind?”
Chinese “You want which one kind?”
English “Which kind do you want?”

The Chinese grammar is closer to Australian than the English grammar is. ;-)

:)

Interesting grammar can be quite fascinating.

In Irish Gaelic Grammar the verb comes first, and I am still wrapping my head around that.

Irish is a “VSO” (verb-subject-object) language.

https://www.bitesize.irish/blog/irish-gaelic-grammar/

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Date: 14/12/2022 06:39:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1966608
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

There’s hardly anyone with my surname in Australia but in Ireland it is like Smith or Jones in the phone book.

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Date: 14/12/2022 08:29:14
From: ms spock
ID: 1966620
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

roughbarked said:


There’s hardly anyone with my surname in Australia but in Ireland it is like Smith or Jones in the phone book.

:)

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Date: 15/12/2022 11:13:23
From: ms spock
ID: 1967189
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Really enjoying the Duolingo…

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Date: 15/12/2022 22:23:54
From: ms spock
ID: 1967477
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewhDvdXBBkA

The song at 5.52 is beautiful singing in the tradition last 800 years.

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Date: 15/12/2022 22:31:52
From: sibeen
ID: 1967482
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewhDvdXBBkA

The song at 5.52 is beautiful singing in the tradition last 800 years.

You should listen to this one, spocky. It’s sublime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibih7DyA4s4&ab_channel=RealWorldRecords

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Date: 15/12/2022 22:35:36
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1967485
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

sibeen said:


ms spock said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewhDvdXBBkA

The song at 5.52 is beautiful singing in the tradition last 800 years.

You should listen to this one, spocky. It’s sublime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibih7DyA4s4&ab_channel=RealWorldRecords

You only posted that so we’d see the ad for installing solar, didn’t you :)

But I will investigate these Gloaming people further.

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Date: 16/12/2022 10:47:45
From: ms spock
ID: 1967597
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

sibeen said:


ms spock said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewhDvdXBBkA

The song at 5.52 is beautiful singing in the tradition last 800 years.

You should listen to this one, spocky. It’s sublime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibih7DyA4s4&ab_channel=RealWorldRecords

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Go raibh maith agat sibeen!

It is sublime…

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Date: 17/12/2022 09:03:49
From: ms spock
ID: 1968063
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

This morning find me translating

Olann na turtair bainne which means The turtles drink milk.

I have never met milk drinking turtles. I guess it is important to keep an open mind!

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Date: 17/12/2022 09:05:33
From: ms spock
ID: 1968064
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Itheann na beir su talun. which means The bears eat a strawberry.

Don’t try this at home folks…

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Date: 17/12/2022 09:08:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 1968067
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


This morning find me translating

Olann na turtair bainne which means The turtles drink milk.

I have never met milk drinking turtles. I guess it is important to keep an open mind!

Clearly. :)

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Date: 17/12/2022 09:13:31
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1968070
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


Itheann na beir su talun. which means The bears eat a strawberry.

Don’t try this at home folks…

Well that’s my learnin for today.

I didn’t think Ireland had any bears, but:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bears_in_Ireland

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Date: 17/12/2022 09:13:38
From: ms spock
ID: 1968071
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

This morning find me translating

Olann na turtair bainne which means The turtles drink milk.

I have never met milk drinking turtles. I guess it is important to keep an open mind!

Clearly. :)

:)

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Date: 17/12/2022 09:19:00
From: ms spock
ID: 1968075
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

The Rev Dodgson said:


ms spock said:

Itheann na beir su talun. which means The bears eat a strawberry.

Don’t try this at home folks…

Well that’s my learnin for today.

I didn’t think Ireland had any bears, but:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bears_in_Ireland

Interesting.

So that is why I am learning bear singular béar and bears plural béir.

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Date: 17/12/2022 09:21:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1968077
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ms spock said:

Itheann na beir su talun. which means The bears eat a strawberry.

Don’t try this at home folks…

Well that’s my learnin for today.

I didn’t think Ireland had any bears, but:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bears_in_Ireland

Interesting.

So that is why I am learning bear singular béar and bears plural béir.

I’d rather avoid béir if I could.

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Date: 17/12/2022 09:36:15
From: ms spock
ID: 1968082
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well that’s my learnin for today.

I didn’t think Ireland had any bears, but:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bears_in_Ireland

Interesting.

So that is why I am learning bear singular béar and bears plural béir.

I’d rather avoid béir if I could.

It could be unbéirable…

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Date: 17/12/2022 10:04:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1968084
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

Interesting.

So that is why I am learning bear singular béar and bears plural béir.

I’d rather avoid béir if I could.

It could be unbéirable…

Indubitably.

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Date: 17/12/2022 10:06:59
From: ms spock
ID: 1968086
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Labhraíonn an fia Gaeilge. = The deer speaks Irish. Well obviously I have a lot of catching up to do.

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Date: 17/12/2022 10:12:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1968088
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:

Labhraíonn an fia Gaeilge. = The deer speaks Irish. Well obviously I have a lot of catching up to do.

Thinking of going to Ireland?

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Date: 17/12/2022 10:16:34
From: ms spock
ID: 1968090
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

Labhraíonn an fia Gaeilge. = The deer speaks Irish. Well obviously I have a lot of catching up to do.

Thinking of going to Ireland?

Indeed yes…

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Date: 17/12/2022 15:53:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1968212
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

Labhraíonn an fia Gaeilge. = The deer speaks Irish. Well obviously I have a lot of catching up to do.

Thinking of going to Ireland?

Indeed yes…

Lucky you.

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Date: 19/12/2022 21:49:03
From: ms spock
ID: 1969279
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

https://www.rte.ie/gaeilge/2022/1128/1338802-fiosraionn-ciara-ni-e-an-ghaeilge-le-what-the-focal/

http://www.raidionalife.ie/ga/baile/
http://www.raidionalife.ie/en/home/

https://raidiofailte.com/?lang=en
https://raidiofailte.com/

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLY7rlV7E68LgLo4Vrzm-B5VWPk3MKB5VH
https://www.rte.ie/gaeilge/2022/1128/1338802-fiosraionn-ciara-ni-e-an-ghaeilge-le-what-the-focal/

https://www.gaeilge.ie/?lang=en
https://www.gaeilge.ie/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEwPLOMn-9M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M0cW3mVUu8

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Date: 21/12/2022 15:02:38
From: ms spock
ID: 1969970
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Puppets may not be the best way to teach Irish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw5EKb6pLg4

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Date: 22/12/2022 08:31:39
From: ms spock
ID: 1970198
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

https://www.iclanguage.com/learn-irish/ I always like the games.

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Date: 22/12/2022 09:30:00
From: ms spock
ID: 1970230
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/irish.php

with the important

Tá m’árthach foluaineach lán d’eascanna

https://omniglot.com/soundfiles/irish/hovercraft_ga.mp3

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Date: 22/12/2022 09:35:15
From: ms spock
ID: 1970233
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:

https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/irish.php

with the important

Tá m’árthach foluaineach lán d’eascanna

https://omniglot.com/soundfiles/irish/hovercraft_ga.mp3

My hovercraft is full of eels

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Date: 22/12/2022 09:38:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1970234
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


ms spock said:

https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/irish.php

with the important

Tá m’árthach foluaineach lán d’eascanna

https://omniglot.com/soundfiles/irish/hovercraft_ga.mp3

My hovercraft is full of eels

Now why would you put eels in your hovercraft?

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Date: 22/12/2022 09:52:08
From: ms spock
ID: 1970245
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

ms spock said:

https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/irish.php

with the important

Tá m’árthach foluaineach lán d’eascanna

https://omniglot.com/soundfiles/irish/hovercraft_ga.mp3

My hovercraft is full of eels

Now why would you put eels in your hovercraft?

Monty Python!

https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/hovercraft.htm

This phrase is used in a sketch about a badly translated English-Hungarian phrasebook from the British TV comedy show, Monty Python’s Flying Circus. There’s a video of the sketch on YouTube and a transcript on this site.

It’s possibly the most useful phrase there is, and a handy one to have when you’re asked to say something in a language you’re learning.

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Date: 22/12/2022 09:54:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1970248
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

My hovercraft is full of eels

Now why would you put eels in your hovercraft?

Monty Python!

https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/hovercraft.htm

This phrase is used in a sketch about a badly translated English-Hungarian phrasebook from the British TV comedy show, Monty Python’s Flying Circus. There’s a video of the sketch on YouTube and a transcript on this site.

It’s possibly the most useful phrase there is, and a handy one to have when you’re asked to say something in a language you’re learning.

I was just joshing.

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Date: 22/12/2022 09:58:09
From: ms spock
ID: 1970254
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

roughbarked said:

Now why would you put eels in your hovercraft?

Monty Python!

https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/hovercraft.htm

This phrase is used in a sketch about a badly translated English-Hungarian phrasebook from the British TV comedy show, Monty Python’s Flying Circus. There’s a video of the sketch on YouTube and a transcript on this site.

It’s possibly the most useful phrase there is, and a handy one to have when you’re asked to say something in a language you’re learning.

I was just joshing.

:))))

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Date: 26/12/2022 07:13:14
From: ms spock
ID: 1971713
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

There are so many freel language resources available online.

You can get a Gaeglie word of the day but you can also get words of the day from a whole range of languages.

https://www.transparent.com/language-resources/

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Date: 29/12/2022 10:14:51
From: ms spock
ID: 1972703
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

https://www.transparent.com/language-resources/
https://www.transparent.com/word-of-the-day/today/arabic.html
https://www.transparent.com/word-of-the-day/today/irish.html

Loving Duolingo – it appeals to my competative side.

There’s so many resources available for learning languages!

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Date: 29/12/2022 11:12:45
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1972722
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:

https://www.transparent.com/language-resources/
https://www.transparent.com/word-of-the-day/today/arabic.html
https://www.transparent.com/word-of-the-day/today/irish.html

Loving Duolingo – it appeals to my competative side.

There’s so many resources available for learning languages!

Duolingo is very good, up to a point. My main contact with it has been for French.

Going on that experience, it’s much more useful if you read the explanatory notes that go with the Duolingo exercises, and if you also look up in other places the part of the grammar that Duolingo is explaining (for instance, verb cases and tenses, which are really an obstacle for learners with French, and some other sites give better/clearer/more complete explanations than does Duolingo).

Duolingo does allow you to go hard and fast at the exercises, and they just keep coming! The fast pace can help with the repetition/reinforcement.

Even for people who have a bit of confidence with a language, a visit to Duolingo is handy refreshment of knowledge, and a place where you can get an idea of how far out of practice you are.

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Date: 29/12/2022 11:30:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1972728
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

All that said about Duolingo, it, like many language websites, will probably only take you so far.

IIRC, Duolingo itself declares that you’re probably not going to become fluent in a language via just Duolingo lessons. (Duolingo does claim that there’s more people learning Irish Gaelic via Duolingo than there are Irish Gaelic speakers in Ireland (actress Maureen O’Hara was a ‘native’ speaker).

They will, however, get you over the lack of confidence that beginners frequently feel, and show you that the language is not impossible, after all. You’ll get a grasp of the basics, and achieve a level where you could manage rudimentary communications, reading and speaking. And you can achieve that at no cost at all.

Once you feel that you might need something more than what Duolingo is giving you, then you probably do. There’s no substitute for learning directly from a fluent speaker of the language, and for learning to listen to and respond to a real person.

That’s when you have to look for a teacher. For more ‘common’ languages like French and German, you can usually find someone in a major town. U#A often has such classes, and there’s multi-language schools around. For less frequently-requested languages, it’s often worth asking the local ‘ethnic cultural’ organisations.

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Date: 29/12/2022 11:46:28
From: ms spock
ID: 1972734
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

captain_spalding said:


ms spock said:

https://www.transparent.com/language-resources/
https://www.transparent.com/word-of-the-day/today/arabic.html
https://www.transparent.com/word-of-the-day/today/irish.html

Loving Duolingo – it appeals to my competative side.

There’s so many resources available for learning languages!

Duolingo is very good, up to a point. My main contact with it has been for French.

Going on that experience, it’s much more useful if you read the explanatory notes that go with the Duolingo exercises, and if you also look up in other places the part of the grammar that Duolingo is explaining (for instance, verb cases and tenses, which are really an obstacle for learners with French, and some other sites give better/clearer/more complete explanations than does Duolingo).

Duolingo does allow you to go hard and fast at the exercises, and they just keep coming! The fast pace can help with the repetition/reinforcement.

Even for people who have a bit of confidence with a language, a visit to Duolingo is handy refreshment of knowledge, and a place where you can get an idea of how far out of practice you are.

So Captain Spalding I have found the explanatory notes that go with the Duolingo exercises, it’s on a different Duolingo Forum Site, and i have to create a different login which is weird. I had sign up fatigue so put off joining up, but now that you mention it I will follow that up!

That’s a great suggestion to look up other places the part of the grammar that Duolingo is getting me to work on i.e. verb cases and tenses! I am trying to findthe free Irish Gaelic resources online.

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Date: 29/12/2022 11:59:48
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1972744
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/irish.php

https://www.duolingo.com/course/ga/en/Learn-Irish

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-10-places-to-learn-the-irish-language-in-ireland/

https://www.ucd.ie/bnag/en/

https://www.ucd.ie/irish/en/global/

https://www.cnag.ie/ga/

https://www.gaelchultur.com/en/home.aspx

https://www.gael-linn.ie/en/courses/adult-courses/110-2/

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-5-best-places-for-learning-irish-online/

https://www.irelandbeforeyoudie.com/top-10-places-to-learn-the-irish-language-in-ireland/

Anyone with any suggestions?

Are you of Irish stock?

Yes my grandfather spoke Gaelic with his mother and grandmother. Trying to claw one positive thing from my family!

Some people are interested in learning languages …just because as well. I think that is okay.

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Date: 29/12/2022 12:03:12
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1972746
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


mollwollfumble said:

> Anyone with any suggestions?

I’m reading a good book for learning Chinese.
Slightly more useful?

Wow learning Chinese sounds interesting! Where did you get the book? Are you learning Chinese? What is the name of the book?

Gaelic is useful for the words and concepts that the English colonisers enforced upon the Irish. There’s actually a lot of speakers on social media that you can chat with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRIaLSdRMMs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM3ISST2eg8

It is like a heritage connection, which is important to me.

Heritage and maintaining an identity. I think there is move to have English and Gaelic names on more shops in Ireland as one example. I can understand why they want to hold onto that part of their identity as well.

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Date: 29/12/2022 12:11:30
From: ms spock
ID: 1972755
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

monkey skipper said:


ms spock said:

roughbarked said:

Are you of Irish stock?

Yes my grandfather spoke Gaelic with his mother and grandmother. Trying to claw one positive thing from my family!

Some people are interested in learning languages …just because as well. I think that is okay.

I totally agree with you Monkey Skipper!

I am now interested at looking around at a few other languages as well!

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Date: 29/12/2022 12:15:31
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1972757
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


monkey skipper said:

ms spock said:

Yes my grandfather spoke Gaelic with his mother and grandmother. Trying to claw one positive thing from my family!

Some people are interested in learning languages …just because as well. I think that is okay.

I totally agree with you Monkey Skipper!

I am now interested at looking around at a few other languages as well!

Italian is good for beginners with new languages.

A lady i worked with (from Austria) spoke German, English, French, Italian, and Greek.

She recommended Italian because the alphabet is familiar, and, as she put it, ‘if there’s letters on the page, you pronounce them, and you pronounce it how it’s written’.

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Date: 29/12/2022 12:27:22
From: Ian
ID: 1972758
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

https://www.un.org/development/desa/indigenouspeoples/indigenous-languages.html

International Decade of Indigenous Languages 2022 – 2032

Optimistic estimates suggest that at least 50 percent of today’s spoken languages will be extinct or seriously endangered by 2100. More pessimistic, but also realistic estimates claim that 90-95 percent will become extinct or seriously endangered by the end of this century. Most of these languages are Indigenous languages. Humanity may well have only 300-600 oral languages left that are unthreatened by the end of this century.

Since its establishment, the Permanent Forum has, drawn attention to the critical situation of Indigenous Peoples. The Forum has repeatedly called for constitutional and legal recognition of Indigenous languages, preservation and revitalization of Indigenous languages and ensuring adequate funding for this, support for Indigenous universities, and ensuring that Indigenous languages are adequately included as one of the indicators to identify Indigenous persons when undertaking censuses. There have been calls for a convention to protect Indigenous languages, accountability for the deliberate destruction of Indigenous languages and increased participation of Indigenous Peoples in standard setting activities, policy development and implementation related to the legal instruments of UNESCO that are intended to protect our common cultural heritage. Based on recommendations of the Permanent Forum, the UN Department of Economic Affairs has organized two international expert group meetings in 2008 and 2016 to consider the situation of Indigenous languages. The outcomes of the two expert group meetings have informed the work of the Forum over the past six years.

Bearing in mind that the revitalization of Indigenous languages requires sustained effort by Indigenous Peoples, Members States and the United Nations system, the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues recommended the General Assembly to proclaim an International Decade on Indigenous Languages in 2019 (see E/C.19/2019/10, para 22). As recommended by the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues, the UN General Assembly proclaimed in 2019 through Resolution A/74/396 the International Decade of Indigenous Languages (2022-2032).

The Permanent Forum believes that the International Decade provides a unique opportunity for creating sustainable changes in complex social dynamics for the preservation, revitalization and promotion of Indigenous languages…

I can see why this project might be of help to some indigenous peoples in maintaining their identity..

But probably a dead loss in the long run imo.

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Date: 29/12/2022 12:44:41
From: ms spock
ID: 1972762
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

monkey skipper said:


ms spock said:

mollwollfumble said:

> Anyone with any suggestions?

I’m reading a good book for learning Chinese.
Slightly more useful?

Wow learning Chinese sounds interesting! Where did you get the book? Are you learning Chinese? What is the name of the book?

Gaelic is useful for the words and concepts that the English colonisers enforced upon the Irish. There’s actually a lot of speakers on social media that you can chat with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRIaLSdRMMs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM3ISST2eg8

It is like a heritage connection, which is important to me.

Heritage and maintaining an identity. I think there is move to have English and Gaelic names on more shops in Ireland as one example. I can understand why they want to hold onto that part of their identity as well.

It interests me passionately Monkey Skipper.

They now have YouTube videos on prounciation in the Gaelic way, rather than saying it the English way. So folks will say the shop’s name the Gaelic Irish way.

Heritage and maintaining indentity are so crucial. It can change the trajectory of an individual/family/community!

Part of the legal requirements to meet the criteria for genocide is the erasure of language/culture/identity or having said crimes committed towards a person/community due to this. Australia met this requirement of genocide with our Indigenous brothers and sisters with our Stolen Generations.

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Date: 29/12/2022 14:22:17
From: ms spock
ID: 1972806
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

captain_spalding said:


ms spock said:

monkey skipper said:

Some people are interested in learning languages …just because as well. I think that is okay.

I totally agree with you Monkey Skipper!

I am now interested at looking around at a few other languages as well!

Italian is good for beginners with new languages.

A lady i worked with (from Austria) spoke German, English, French, Italian, and Greek.

She recommended Italian because the alphabet is familiar, and, as she put it, ‘if there’s letters on the page, you pronounce them, and you pronounce it how it’s written’.

All hot tips gratefully accepted Captain Spalding.

I will think on that. I was also thinking Spainish, these may be but mere daydreams.

I was listening to this radio station to familiarise myself with the sounds of Gaelige, but had to push the ejector button when too many songs like “Jingle Bell Rocks” were played in succession, sadly my Irish isn’t good enough for me to leave any negative commentary. I suspect that it is their fiendish way of spurring on my learning process.

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Date: 29/12/2022 14:25:10
From: ms spock
ID: 1972810
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Ian said:


https://www.un.org/development/desa/indigenouspeoples/indigenous-languages.html

International Decade of Indigenous Languages 2022 – 2032

Optimistic estimates suggest that at least 50 percent of today’s spoken languages will be extinct or seriously endangered by 2100. More pessimistic, but also realistic estimates claim that 90-95 percent will become extinct or seriously endangered by the end of this century. Most of these languages are Indigenous languages. Humanity may well have only 300-600 oral languages left that are unthreatened by the end of this century.

Since its establishment, the Permanent Forum has, drawn attention to the critical situation of Indigenous Peoples. The Forum has repeatedly called for constitutional and legal recognition of Indigenous languages, preservation and revitalization of Indigenous languages and ensuring adequate funding for this, support for Indigenous universities, and ensuring that Indigenous languages are adequately included as one of the indicators to identify Indigenous persons when undertaking censuses. There have been calls for a convention to protect Indigenous languages, accountability for the deliberate destruction of Indigenous languages and increased participation of Indigenous Peoples in standard setting activities, policy development and implementation related to the legal instruments of UNESCO that are intended to protect our common cultural heritage. Based on recommendations of the Permanent Forum, the UN Department of Economic Affairs has organized two international expert group meetings in 2008 and 2016 to consider the situation of Indigenous languages. The outcomes of the two expert group meetings have informed the work of the Forum over the past six years.

Bearing in mind that the revitalization of Indigenous languages requires sustained effort by Indigenous Peoples, Members States and the United Nations system, the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues recommended the General Assembly to proclaim an International Decade on Indigenous Languages in 2019 (see E/C.19/2019/10, para 22). As recommended by the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues, the UN General Assembly proclaimed in 2019 through Resolution A/74/396 the International Decade of Indigenous Languages (2022-2032).

The Permanent Forum believes that the International Decade provides a unique opportunity for creating sustainable changes in complex social dynamics for the preservation, revitalization and promotion of Indigenous languages…

I can see why this project might be of help to some indigenous peoples in maintaining their identity..

But probably a dead loss in the long run imo.

The situation does seem dire on so many levels. That is for sure.

Though the renaissance of languages in the Bundjalung Country does give me cause for hope.

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Date: 29/12/2022 14:50:04
From: ms spock
ID: 1972826
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


captain_spalding said:

ms spock said:

I totally agree with you Monkey Skipper!

I am now interested at looking around at a few other languages as well!

Italian is good for beginners with new languages.

A lady i worked with (from Austria) spoke German, English, French, Italian, and Greek.

She recommended Italian because the alphabet is familiar, and, as she put it, ‘if there’s letters on the page, you pronounce them, and you pronounce it how it’s written’.

All hot tips gratefully accepted Captain Spalding.

I will think on that. I was also thinking Spainish, these may be but mere daydreams.

I was listening to this radio station to familiarise myself with the sounds of Gaelige, but had to push the ejector button when too many songs like “Jingle Bell Rocks” were played in succession, sadly my Irish isn’t good enough for me to leave any negative commentary. I suspect that it is their fiendish way of spurring on my learning process.

I don’t even know how I did a screen shot of both my screens and posting it here.

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Date: 2/01/2023 11:01:51
From: ms spock
ID: 1974618
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-fJ8Ig8sos

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Date: 4/01/2023 19:17:18
From: ms spock
ID: 1975771
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Xmas Presents for later this year! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEwPLOMn-9M ;)

And a free beginners course! (with a free PDF The Irish Language Your Key to Gaelic Ireland)

https://www.bitesize.irish/gachla/irish-for-beginners/

and after that a free taster course!

https://aistear.bitesize.irish/sign-up-taster/

Conversations with native speakers of Irish. Folks are so generous to share language and culturel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxjjZSkk7h4

https://www.bitesize.irish/

Beginner’s Gaelic by MacLaren, James

———————————————————————
2nd Edition Colloquial Irish The Complete Course for Beginners By Tomás Ó hÍde, Máire Ní Neachtain, Roslyn Blyn-LaDrew, John Gillen Copyright Year 2023 ISBN 9781032077376

New audio material for this edition is available to download for free in MP3 format from www.routledge.com/cw/colloquials. Recorded by native speakers, the audio material features the dialogues and texts from the book and will help develop your listening and pronunciation skills.
——————————————————————-

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Date: 6/01/2023 22:04:40
From: ms spock
ID: 1976773
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

There’s a few characters on Irish radio, speaking in Irish.

https://www.rte.ie/radio/rnag/

They can be most entertaining.

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Date: 6/01/2023 22:07:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1976781
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:

There’s a few characters on Irish radio, speaking in Irish.

https://www.rte.ie/radio/rnag/

They can be most entertaining.

Seems like you’re picking it up very quickly.

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Date: 6/01/2023 22:12:17
From: Jing Joh
ID: 1976787
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

I can highly recommend watching ‘The Banshees of Inisherin’ on many levels but not for the gaelic.

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Date: 6/01/2023 23:18:57
From: ms spock
ID: 1976846
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

captain_spalding said:


ms spock said:

There’s a few characters on Irish radio, speaking in Irish.

https://www.rte.ie/radio/rnag/

They can be most entertaining.

Seems like you’re picking it up very quickly.

I am enjoying studying Irish. I am picking up a few words here and there, but they are definitely a few characters on the Irish radio station.

Their Irish TV also has some colourful characters.

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Date: 6/01/2023 23:20:54
From: ms spock
ID: 1976847
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Jing Joh said:


I can highly recommend watching ‘The Banshees of Inisherin’ on many levels but not for the gaelic.

Banshee/s is a word of gaelic origin – they were scary fairies.

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Date: 7/01/2023 08:00:48
From: ms spock
ID: 1976960
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Thanks I will look out for it ‘The Banshees of Inisherin’

This is worth watching just for the visual poetry that the terrain and the drone aerial views provide.

Ar Thóir na Saighneán

Dónal Glackin and Graeme Pollard are two photographers who travelled to Iceland in order to fulfil a lifelong goal of witnessing the northern lights.

Link

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Date: 8/01/2023 14:11:48
From: ms spock
ID: 1977606
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

I feel a bit sad. I found the whole translation of “to fuck” and I so wanted to share it with sibeen but I lost it.

It had

I fuck
You fuck
She fucks
He fucks
They fuck

They are fucked

and so on and so forth. I hope I find it again.

Until there “fuck off” in English – Irish dictionary is focáil leat

and I watched some videos on polyglots and these two are currently my favourites.

2 polyglots chatting in 6 languages (part 2)- 6 months progress@mahyapolyglot655

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJSpMNQJgqQ

Bite Size Irish is good as well…

A free course https://www.bitesize.irish/gachla/irish-for-beginners/

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Date: 8/01/2023 14:19:41
From: Ian
ID: 1977611
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


I feel a bit sad. I found the whole translation of “to fuck” and I so wanted to share it with sibeen but I lost it.

It had

I fuck
You fuck
She fucks
He fucks
They fuck
We are all fucked
They are fucked

and so on and so forth. I hope I find it again.

Until there “fuck off” in English – Irish dictionary is focáil leat

and I watched some videos on polyglots and these two are currently my favourites.

2 polyglots chatting in 6 languages (part 2)- 6 months progress@mahyapolyglot655

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJSpMNQJgqQ

Bite Size Irish is good as well…

A free course https://www.bitesize.irish/gachla/irish-for-beginners/

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Date: 10/01/2023 08:14:58
From: ms spock
ID: 1978444
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

The Winds “Na Gaotha” | A Poem in Irish Gaelic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01u1UqnANIE

https://www.forasnagaeilge.ie/?lang=en

https://www.forasnagaeilge.ie/about-foras-na-gaeilge/?lang=en

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Date: 10/01/2023 14:11:40
From: ms spock
ID: 1978614
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Shut your mouth!

Dún do ghob!

https://www.transparent.com/word-of-the-day/today/irish.html?date=01-05-2023

An important phrase in any language.

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Date: 10/01/2023 14:13:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1978618
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:

Shut your mouth!

Dún do ghob!

https://www.transparent.com/word-of-the-day/today/irish.html?date=01-05-2023

An important phrase in any language.

Now I know where shut yer gob came froom.

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Date: 10/01/2023 14:20:16
From: sibeen
ID: 1978627
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:

Shut your mouth!

Dún do ghob!

https://www.transparent.com/word-of-the-day/today/irish.html?date=01-05-2023

An important phrase in any language.

Oo, is that where we get “shut your gob” from?

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Date: 10/01/2023 14:22:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1978629
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

sibeen said:


ms spock said:

Shut your mouth!

Dún do ghob!

https://www.transparent.com/word-of-the-day/today/irish.html?date=01-05-2023

An important phrase in any language.

Oo, is that where we get “shut your gob” from?

Great minds…

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Date: 10/01/2023 14:26:32
From: Michael V
ID: 1978631
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

sibeen said:


ms spock said:

Shut your mouth!

Dún do ghob!

https://www.transparent.com/word-of-the-day/today/irish.html?date=01-05-2023

An important phrase in any language.

Oo, is that where we get “shut your gob” from?

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gob#Etymology

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Date: 10/01/2023 14:30:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1978634
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Michael V said:


sibeen said:

ms spock said:

Shut your mouth!

Dún do ghob!

https://www.transparent.com/word-of-the-day/today/irish.html?date=01-05-2023

An important phrase in any language.

Oo, is that where we get “shut your gob” from?

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gob#Etymology

I see it is said to be from middle English French Scot Irish..
and then they said it again.. From Old Irish gop, from Proto-Celtic *gobbos (“mouth”) (compare French gober (“gulp down”) and gobelet (“goblet”) from Gaulish) from Proto-Indo-European *ǵebʰ- (“jaw, mouth”); compare Russian зоб (zob, “goitre”), jowl from Old English ċēafl; German Kiefer (“jaw”).

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Date: 10/01/2023 21:20:54
From: ms spock
ID: 1978768
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

Shut your mouth!

Dún do ghob!

https://www.transparent.com/word-of-the-day/today/irish.html?date=01-05-2023

An important phrase in any language.

Now I know where shut yer gob came froom.

You do indeed roughbarked!

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Date: 12/01/2023 16:53:14
From: ms spock
ID: 1979614
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Misneach

S2 E1

These are the stories of members of the community who are seizing the opportunity education offers and who are blazing a trail for future generations.

https://www.tg4.ie/en/player/categories/top-documentaries/play/?pid=6318474131112&title=Misneach&series=Misneach&genre=Faisneis&pcode=626670

Irish Travellers got status in 2017

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Date: 12/01/2023 16:59:08
From: dv
ID: 1979615
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

What motivated these attempts to learn Gaelic?

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Date: 13/01/2023 08:32:30
From: ms spock
ID: 1979817
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

So many documentaries in Irish to watch. I am learning to hear more sounds now.

https://www.tg4.ie/en/player/categories/top-documentaries/

Apparently you can watch it live but I think our VPNs might be stopping that? https://www.tg4.ie/en/player/watch-live/home/ Haven’t got that working yet.

Éalú Ó Antarctica

https://www.tg4.ie/en/player/home/?pid=6317654379112&title=%C3%89al%C3%BA%20%C3%93%20Antarctica&series=%C3%89al%C3%BA%20%C3%93%20Antarctica&genre=Faisneis&pcode=112005

https://www.tg4.ie/en/irish-tv-schedule/daily-schedule/

You can actually hear the language in use for some hours each day. You know like in the backgroup whilst doing other things. There’s a lot out there. TV, series, documentaries, radio programmes, podcasts. It is most heartening.

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Date: 13/01/2023 08:42:44
From: ms spock
ID: 1979820
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

dv said:


What motivated these attempts to learn Gaelic?

DV I am estranged from my family. So I was trying to find one thing that I can engage with that gives me a connection to family and my past that doens’t mean being around toxic, abusive, and life threatening people. One of my sisters marriaged our father. I have nieces and nephews that I will never meet. It’s hard to have family that are not dead but who are dead to you and you are completely dead to them. 1 in 8 Australians are estranged from a family member, so it is not unusal. My parents knew Pell. They were complicit – despite everything else. My grandfather spoke Irish Gaelic with his mother and grandmother. It’s a cultural connection that I can have with my family without actually being in contact with them. It’s hard to feel so lonely for three sisters and brothers that were 13, 10, 10, 8 and 7 when I ran away to stop my father from killing us all. Those people no longer exist. My mother told me if I didn’t come back and say it (all the abuse) didn’t happen she would make sure that they grew up as strangers to me, and she kept her word. Those little people that I looked after and protected don’t exist anymore. In one sense it wasn’t even worth leaving home, if my father had killed us all, it would have been all over, and not being stuck without family, and difficulties with disorganised attachment means I don’t belong many places. I am difficult to get on with. So grasping at straws, finding some places to practice the language will be a way of having a little bit of a family. This forum is one of the closest places that I have to having a family. I got attacked a long time ago and didn’t come back for a long time, as no one stood up for me so I left. Now I realise that person doesn’t come here anymore, so I can come back.

It is also an intellectual challenge.

Saving an endangered language appeals to me especially when I come from it’s lineage. Some type of cultural heritage is meaningful for me.

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Date: 13/01/2023 22:00:20
From: ms spock
ID: 1980270
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Travellers

https://www.mooc-list.com/

Lots of Irish language and culture resources here with a big thanks to buffy!

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Date: 13/01/2023 22:04:43
From: dv
ID: 1980272
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Well I hope it brings you some joy.

BTW

“One of my sisters marriaged our father”

That kind of sounds illegal

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Date: 14/01/2023 07:33:33
From: ms spock
ID: 1980367
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

dv said:

Well I hope it brings you some joy.

BTW

“One of my sisters marriaged our father”

That kind of sounds illegal

You are correct it is illegal. And that was a poorly written sentence. For all intents and purposes one of my sisters married a man just a violent, vicious, destructive and abusive as our sperm donor.

Learning Irish is bringing me joy.

And there is a documentary An Cuan on the Teeming with life, both wild and human, the bay faces many challenges both natural and manmade. An Cuan explores this unique urban area where nature and humanity co-exist. Spring signals a re-awakening for Dublin Bay’s eco-system.

Folks everywhere are working to reinvigorate our ecosystems.

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Date: 14/01/2023 07:38:35
From: ms spock
ID: 1980369
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Today’s Irish Word

oiriúnach: suitable

Part of speech: adjective

Example sentence: Sa bhliain 1999 bhí a lán daoine buartha an mbeadh a ríomhairí oiriunach don bhliain 2000.

Sentence meaning: In the year 1999 many people were worried about whether their computers would be Y2K-compliant.

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Date: 15/01/2023 08:32:17
From: ms spock
ID: 1980935
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Watched a documentary on young Irish speaking college stduents managing their studies in the age of Covid. Understood a couple of words. One young woman shared the experiences that got her involved in consent week.

And now Mná na Talún a four part series on Irish speaking women farmers. The lambs are cute. Catching one or two words here and there. These women get things down just like our buffy!

https://www.tg4.ie/en/player/categories/top-documentaries/play/?pid=6316037062112&title=An%20tEarrach&series=Mn%C3%A1%20na%20Tal%C3%BAn&genre=Faisneis&pcode=626703

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Date: 15/01/2023 21:00:40
From: ms spock
ID: 1981519
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

I love Bite Sized Irish with SIOBHÁN. She’s just lovely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMfbtFRYZ9Y

https://www.bitesize.irish/blog/how-to-say-an-irish-blessing-in-irish/

and Molly Nic Céile is lovely too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96r1M9bquh8&list=PLTnUWtOxMUTXlhfzPyURPkxpCClQG1wnY

and she has full on conversations that you can listen to.

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Date: 18/01/2023 11:19:45
From: ms spock
ID: 1982654
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

You can hear the news read slowly. So you can understand it. What a wonderful resources!

https://radiopublic.com/nuacht-mhall-GZrgpe/s1!5834a

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Date: 18/01/2023 20:23:26
From: ms spock
ID: 1982992
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

https://universeofmemory.com/irish-language-resources/

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Date: 18/01/2023 22:12:04
From: dv
ID: 1983063
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

This reminded me about language loss in the British Isles.

Four hundred years ago there were significant number of speakers of the following languages: English, Scots, Irish, Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, Jerriais, Sercquias, Guernésiais, Norn, Manx, Cornish, Auregnais, Yola, Fingallian.

The last native speakers of Cornish died in the early 19th century.

Fingallian (an old Anglic language spoken in Fingal, Ireland) died out in the mid 19th century.

Norn, a Norse-derived language used in Caithness, Orkney and Shetland, went extinct in the 19th century.

Yola also died out as a language of daily use in the 19th century though it retained some ceremonial use until recently.

Auregnais, spoken on Alderney, died out around 1960.

The last speaker of Manx (Ned Maddrell) died in 1974.

https://starkeycomics.com/2019/03/01/a-brief-history-of-british-and-irish-languages/

Right now there are four remaining speakers of Sercquiais (Sarkese) used on the isle of Sark.

https://www.facebook.com/itvchanneltv/videos/602117073928392/

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Date: 18/01/2023 22:24:53
From: ms spock
ID: 1983071
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

dv said:


This reminded me about language loss in the British Isles.

Four hundred years ago there were significant number of speakers of the following languages: English, Scots, Irish, Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, Jerriais, Sercquias, Guernésiais, Norn, Manx, Cornish, Auregnais, Yola, Fingallian.

The last native speakers of Cornish died in the early 19th century.

Fingallian (an old Anglic language spoken in Fingal, Ireland) died out in the mid 19th century.

Norn, a Norse-derived language used in Caithness, Orkney and Shetland, went extinct in the 19th century.

Yola also died out as a language of daily use in the 19th century though it retained some ceremonial use until recently.

Auregnais, spoken on Alderney, died out around 1960.

The last speaker of Manx (Ned Maddrell) died in 1974.

https://starkeycomics.com/2019/03/01/a-brief-history-of-british-and-irish-languages/

Right now there are four remaining speakers of Sercquiais (Sarkese) used on the isle of Sark.

https://www.facebook.com/itvchanneltv/videos/602117073928392/

So many endangered languages and the tragedy of the extinction of languages with is so sad.

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Date: 19/01/2023 00:05:05
From: party_pants
ID: 1983093
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


dv said:

This reminded me about language loss in the British Isles.

Four hundred years ago there were significant number of speakers of the following languages: English, Scots, Irish, Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, Jerriais, Sercquias, Guernésiais, Norn, Manx, Cornish, Auregnais, Yola, Fingallian.

The last native speakers of Cornish died in the early 19th century.

Fingallian (an old Anglic language spoken in Fingal, Ireland) died out in the mid 19th century.

Norn, a Norse-derived language used in Caithness, Orkney and Shetland, went extinct in the 19th century.

Yola also died out as a language of daily use in the 19th century though it retained some ceremonial use until recently.

Auregnais, spoken on Alderney, died out around 1960.

The last speaker of Manx (Ned Maddrell) died in 1974.

https://starkeycomics.com/2019/03/01/a-brief-history-of-british-and-irish-languages/

Right now there are four remaining speakers of Sercquiais (Sarkese) used on the isle of Sark.

https://www.facebook.com/itvchanneltv/videos/602117073928392/

So many endangered languages and the tragedy of the extinction of languages with is so sad.

I must admit to having no nostalgia or sadness for obscure languages going extinct.

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Date: 19/01/2023 02:29:25
From: dv
ID: 1983133
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:


dv said:

This reminded me about language loss in the British Isles.

Four hundred years ago there were significant number of speakers of the following languages: English, Scots, Irish, Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, Jerriais, Sercquias, Guernésiais, Norn, Manx, Cornish, Auregnais, Yola, Fingallian.

The last native speakers of Cornish died in the early 19th century.

Fingallian (an old Anglic language spoken in Fingal, Ireland) died out in the mid 19th century.

Norn, a Norse-derived language used in Caithness, Orkney and Shetland, went extinct in the 19th century.

Yola also died out as a language of daily use in the 19th century though it retained some ceremonial use until recently.

Auregnais, spoken on Alderney, died out around 1960.

The last speaker of Manx (Ned Maddrell) died in 1974.

https://starkeycomics.com/2019/03/01/a-brief-history-of-british-and-irish-languages/

Right now there are four remaining speakers of Sercquiais (Sarkese) used on the isle of Sark.

https://www.facebook.com/itvchanneltv/videos/602117073928392/

So many endangered languages and the tragedy of the extinction of languages with is so sad.

Meanwhile in Aust there are 50 languages likely to go extinct in the next 30 years

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Date: 19/01/2023 08:28:18
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1983151
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

dv said:


ms spock said:

dv said:

This reminded me about language loss in the British Isles.

Four hundred years ago there were significant number of speakers of the following languages: English, Scots, Irish, Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, Jerriais, Sercquias, Guernésiais, Norn, Manx, Cornish, Auregnais, Yola, Fingallian.

The last native speakers of Cornish died in the early 19th century.

Fingallian (an old Anglic language spoken in Fingal, Ireland) died out in the mid 19th century.

Norn, a Norse-derived language used in Caithness, Orkney and Shetland, went extinct in the 19th century.

Yola also died out as a language of daily use in the 19th century though it retained some ceremonial use until recently.

Auregnais, spoken on Alderney, died out around 1960.

The last speaker of Manx (Ned Maddrell) died in 1974.

https://starkeycomics.com/2019/03/01/a-brief-history-of-british-and-irish-languages/

Right now there are four remaining speakers of Sercquiais (Sarkese) used on the isle of Sark.

https://www.facebook.com/itvchanneltv/videos/602117073928392/

So many endangered languages and the tragedy of the extinction of languages with is so sad.

Meanwhile in Aust there are 50 languages likely to go extinct in the next 30 years

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Date: 19/01/2023 08:29:18
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1983152
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Sorry, dud post, accidentally hit ‘submit’ when i didn’t meant to.

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Date: 19/01/2023 08:30:47
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1983153
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

The Manx language isn’t dead yet.

Only several days back, i saw a mention of its current use, and wikipedia tells us that:

‘In 2009, UNESCO’s Atlas of the World’s Languages in Danger declared Manx an extinct language, despite the presence of hundreds of speakers on the Isle of Man. Since then, UNESCO’s classification of the language has changed to “critically endangered”.

In the 2011 census, 1,823 out of 80,398 Isle of Man residents, or 2.27% of the population, claimed to have knowledge of Manx, an increase of 134 people from the 2001 census. These individuals were spread roughly uniformly over the island: in Douglas 566 people professed an ability to speak, read or write Manx; 179 in Peel, 146 in Onchan, and 149 in Ramsey. ‘

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Date: 19/01/2023 09:03:00
From: ms spock
ID: 1983164
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

party_pants said:


ms spock said:

dv said:

This reminded me about language loss in the British Isles.

Four hundred years ago there were significant number of speakers of the following languages: English, Scots, Irish, Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, Jerriais, Sercquias, Guernésiais, Norn, Manx, Cornish, Auregnais, Yola, Fingallian.

The last native speakers of Cornish died in the early 19th century.

Fingallian (an old Anglic language spoken in Fingal, Ireland) died out in the mid 19th century.

Norn, a Norse-derived language used in Caithness, Orkney and Shetland, went extinct in the 19th century.

Yola also died out as a language of daily use in the 19th century though it retained some ceremonial use until recently.

Auregnais, spoken on Alderney, died out around 1960.

The last speaker of Manx (Ned Maddrell) died in 1974.

https://starkeycomics.com/2019/03/01/a-brief-history-of-british-and-irish-languages/

Right now there are four remaining speakers of Sercquiais (Sarkese) used on the isle of Sark.

https://www.facebook.com/itvchanneltv/videos/602117073928392/

So many endangered languages and the tragedy of the extinction of languages with is so sad.

I must admit to having no nostalgia or sadness for obscure languages going extinct.

And everyone brings something different to the table party pants. It’s a rich tapestry.

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Date: 19/01/2023 09:14:56
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1983168
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

captain_spalding said:


The Manx language isn’t dead yet.

Only several days back, i saw a mention of its current use, and wikipedia tells us that:

‘In 2009, UNESCO’s Atlas of the World’s Languages in Danger declared Manx an extinct language, despite the presence of hundreds of speakers on the Isle of Man. Since then, UNESCO’s classification of the language has changed to “critically endangered”.

In the 2011 census, 1,823 out of 80,398 Isle of Man residents, or 2.27% of the population, claimed to have knowledge of Manx, an increase of 134 people from the 2001 census. These individuals were spread roughly uniformly over the island: in Douglas 566 people professed an ability to speak, read or write Manx; 179 in Peel, 146 in Onchan, and 149 in Ramsey. ‘

Manx cats are still popular. Here’s a young rumpy (Manx cats include rumpies, risers, stumpies, stubbies and longies).

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Date: 19/01/2023 09:16:14
From: ms spock
ID: 1983170
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

captain_spalding said:


dv said:

ms spock said:

So many endangered languages and the tragedy of the extinction of languages with is so sad.

Meanwhile in Aust there are 50 languages likely to go extinct in the next 30 years

Four languages went extinct in NSW for want of $24,000! I read about that two decades ago. You are so right it heart breaking.

On Bundjalung Country you can go to language workshops, and our local schools learn one word per month. Not a lot but at least something.

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Date: 19/01/2023 09:17:01
From: ms spock
ID: 1983171
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

captain_spalding said:


The Manx language isn’t dead yet.

Only several days back, i saw a mention of its current use, and wikipedia tells us that:

‘In 2009, UNESCO’s Atlas of the World’s Languages in Danger declared Manx an extinct language, despite the presence of hundreds of speakers on the Isle of Man. Since then, UNESCO’s classification of the language has changed to “critically endangered”.

In the 2011 census, 1,823 out of 80,398 Isle of Man residents, or 2.27% of the population, claimed to have knowledge of Manx, an increase of 134 people from the 2001 census. These individuals were spread roughly uniformly over the island: in Douglas 566 people professed an ability to speak, read or write Manx; 179 in Peel, 146 in Onchan, and 149 in Ramsey. ‘

Manx is one of the three dialects you can learn! I am trying to learn bits of all three.

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Date: 19/01/2023 09:23:10
From: ms spock
ID: 1983175
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Bubblecar said:


captain_spalding said:

The Manx language isn’t dead yet.

Only several days back, i saw a mention of its current use, and wikipedia tells us that:

‘In 2009, UNESCO’s Atlas of the World’s Languages in Danger declared Manx an extinct language, despite the presence of hundreds of speakers on the Isle of Man. Since then, UNESCO’s classification of the language has changed to “critically endangered”.

In the 2011 census, 1,823 out of 80,398 Isle of Man residents, or 2.27% of the population, claimed to have knowledge of Manx, an increase of 134 people from the 2001 census. These individuals were spread roughly uniformly over the island: in Douglas 566 people professed an ability to speak, read or write Manx; 179 in Peel, 146 in Onchan, and 149 in Ramsey. ‘

Manx cats are still popular. Here’s a young rumpy (Manx cats include rumpies, risers, stumpies, stubbies and longies).

That is an all seeing cat. What a piercing stare!

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Date: 1/02/2023 13:28:45
From: ms spock
ID: 1989038
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Basic Irish Gaelic Phrases! Tamb some of these might interest you!

https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/irish.php

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Date: 1/02/2023 13:29:11
From: ms spock
ID: 1989040
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Link

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Date: 1/02/2023 13:35:17
From: Tamb
ID: 1989045
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

ms spock said:

Basic Irish Gaelic Phrases! Tamb some of these might interest you!

https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/irish.php


Bookmarked. Thank you.

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Date: 1/02/2023 15:21:38
From: ms spock
ID: 1989078
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

Today’s word is Daideo (Grandad)

Link name

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Date: 3/02/2023 11:27:31
From: ms spock
ID: 1989989
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

In case you missed this Captain Spalding!

captain_spalding said:

ms spock said: roughbarked said: May your life be bubbles of happiness. Ah na boilgeoga sonas! (Ah the bubbles of happiness!) Ms Spock, what are you using for a guide to pronouncing the Irish words? Are you getting advice from a fluent speaker, or is there something built in to your instructional material?

I am going to be studying with some native speakers Captain Spalding. My first class is today! I am so excited! Pronunciation is really tricky and there are three/four dialects as well.

How many Irish dialects are there?

There are three primary dialects of Irish:

Munster, spoken in the southern part of the island (Counties Cork, Kerry, and Clare).

Connacht, spoken in the western part of the island (primarily Counties Galway, Mayo, and Sligo).

Ulster, spoken in the northern part of the island (Mostly in County Donegal, but also in parts of Monaghan, Cavan, Derry, Antrim, Down, Armagh, Fermanagh, and Tyrone).

There used to be a fourth regional dialect — Leinster Irish, spoken in the eastern part of the island — but Leinster Irish has died out as a distinct dialect. :(((((

https://www.bitesize.irish/blog/irish-dialects/

So far I am doing Duolingo Irish Gaelic, which has both spoken and written elements.

Just started to listening to Bitesize Irish on YouTube where the prouniciation is written out so you can see it in relationship to the spelling of Irish, which is very, very, very different to the spelling of the Irish.

I am listening as much as I can as well to Irish speaking radio stations, Irish speaking TV station as well as one resource which is surprisingly useful and that is the Irish news read out slowly – so you can see the pronunciation in contrast to the spelling. I understand one or two words here and there. I have a very basic vocabularly of about 50 words! LOL

I am also watching Ros na Run – which is a Irish speaking soap opera, and some episodes have subtitles and some don’t. So I am hearing one or two words here and there.

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Date: 3/02/2023 11:34:30
From: ms spock
ID: 1989991
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

There’s english to irish translation/irish to english google translation that can give you a basic idea!

There’s Duolingo for Irish which is free.

Link name

Useful Irish phrases

A Natural Conversation in Irish with subtitles | Siobhán & Gabrielle

YouTube on how to learn languages

There’s interesting books like Skean: The Distinctive Fighting Knife of Gaelic Ireland, 1500-1700 Hardcover – 1 July 2023 by ROBERT GRESH

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Date: 14/02/2023 12:34:05
From: ms spock
ID: 1994283
Subject: re: Useful sites for learning Irish Gaelic An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?

The Irish and Asian Buddhism is a story that goes back 14 centuries

Opinion: Religion now being accepted as normal in a society that was once very intolerant of difference

Link

This is amazing!

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