Date: 20/12/2022 15:05:48
From: ms spock
ID: 1969533
Subject: Covid in China

China in Focus got kicked off YouTube due to the CCP, about a year ago. They used to do a bit of whistle blowing. Now they just have roughly 15 minute spots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep7j1eTX1qk

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Date: 20/12/2022 16:14:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1969545
Subject: re: Covid in China

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Date: 21/12/2022 05:55:50
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1969758
Subject: re: Covid in China

Not even a single covid death in China (mainland) in the past week. And covid cases in China, never very large, are declining there.

As for non-government whistle-blowing in China. The only source to trust with such whistle blowing is in Hong Kong. The Hong Kong Free Press (AFP). It is exceedingly critical of all things Chinese government and not always reliable. They do have an article about this, however.

https://hongkongfp.com/2022/12/20/no-more-space-at-chinas-crematoriums-as-covid-19-cases-soar/

What seems to be clear is that there is a significant increase is deaths in China. “From the country’s northeast to its southwest, crematorium workers told AFP they are struggling to keep up with a surge in deaths … It’s three or four times busier than in previous years”.

“We are not sure if it’s related to Covid” says the Hong Kong Free Press.

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Date: 21/12/2022 08:53:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1969772
Subject: re: Covid in China

disinformation, the same the world over

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Date: 21/12/2022 20:08:10
From: ms spock
ID: 1970098
Subject: re: Covid in China

China Health System Under Pressure From COVID Surge, Other Countries Fear Possible Virus Mutations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5uV9fm2_3s

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Date: 24/12/2022 20:33:49
From: ms spock
ID: 1971311
Subject: re: Covid in China

Deaths Among CCP Elites Rise as COVID-19 Wave Hits China; China Claims Sufficient Drug Supply

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYx2hQeLjpQ

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Date: 24/12/2022 23:04:16
From: ms spock
ID: 1971384
Subject: re: Covid in China

China to Cut Quarantine for Foreign Travelers: Report; China’s COVID-19 Surge: Hospitals Overwhelmed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM3cbzDYRxU

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Date: 28/12/2022 11:54:03
From: ms spock
ID: 1972438
Subject: re: Covid in China

COVID-19 Out of Control in China, Reports Estimate 248 Million Infected in 20 Days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Jv3zctF5A

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Date: 29/12/2022 20:10:22
From: ms spock
ID: 1972972
Subject: re: Covid in China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2R66Z3RKbE

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Date: 29/12/2022 20:27:43
From: ms spock
ID: 1972975
Subject: re: Covid in China

It would be interesting to really know what is going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkz-miPhOBE

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Date: 29/12/2022 20:35:42
From: ms spock
ID: 1972978
Subject: re: Covid in China

Gravitas: Wuhan Virus nightmare engulfs China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwoiMcfp-uo

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Date: 29/12/2022 22:17:20
From: transition
ID: 1972992
Subject: re: Covid in China

ms spock said:

It would be interesting to really know what is going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkz-miPhOBE

watched that

if you take the concept of an R value, apply it to a contagious belief, that china should open up…

it doesn’t take much to get it rolling

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Date: 30/12/2022 01:57:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1973043
Subject: re: Covid in China

transition said:

ms spock said:

It would be interesting to really know what is going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkz-miPhOBE

watched that

if you take the concept of an R value, apply it to a contagious belief, that china should open up…

it doesn’t take much to get it rolling

thing is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times

while we agree it is useful to have a broad diversity of opinions to draw perspective from

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/technology/epoch-times-influence-falun-gong.html

we also suggest that people be cautious when dealing with some of the narratives lest people be drawn down a fantastic trail

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Date: 30/12/2022 09:21:22
From: ms spock
ID: 1973103
Subject: re: Covid in China

transition said:


ms spock said:

It would be interesting to really know what is going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkz-miPhOBE

watched that

if you take the concept of an R value, apply it to a contagious belief, that china should open up…

it doesn’t take much to get it rolling

It didn’t take much transition and it is definitely rolling.

It’s a bit of a worry.

Jennifer might be worth following for those who Twitter…

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Date: 30/12/2022 09:25:42
From: ms spock
ID: 1973106
Subject: re: Covid in China

I can’t read Chinese but on Twitter @zhang_yueting is saying that on the Shanghai University website excess deaths are 367%. It is probably wrong and I will update it when I find mosre accurate information. It is concerning though!

https://twitter.com/zhang_yueting/status/1608274512402960384

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Date: 30/12/2022 10:38:34
From: dv
ID: 1973129
Subject: re: Covid in China

ms spock said:

I can’t read Chinese but on Twitter @zhang_yueting is saying that on the Shanghai University website excess deaths are 367%. It is probably wrong and I will update it when I find mosre accurate information. It is concerning though!

https://twitter.com/zhang_yueting/status/1608274512402960384


If he means right now (ie in the last week or month) then it is entirely possible.

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Date: 30/12/2022 11:40:15
From: dv
ID: 1973149
Subject: re: Covid in China

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Date: 30/12/2022 12:28:54
From: ms spock
ID: 1973199
Subject: re: Covid in China

dv said:


ms spock said:

I can’t read Chinese but on Twitter @zhang_yueting is saying that on the Shanghai University website excess deaths are 367%. It is probably wrong and I will update it when I find mosre accurate information. It is concerning though!

https://twitter.com/zhang_yueting/status/1608274512402960384


If he means right now (ie in the last week or month) then it is entirely possible.

Apparently it is this week. I stopped watching the videos, they were very disturbing. They are banned from posting them. China has over a million prisoners of conscience. You have to admire the courage to post those videos.

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Date: 30/12/2022 12:31:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1973204
Subject: re: Covid in China

good things are communist propaganda but bad things are truth

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Date: 30/12/2022 15:42:25
From: ms spock
ID: 1973371
Subject: re: Covid in China

I found another source that argues it is not so bad. I will post it here later.

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Date: 30/12/2022 16:45:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1973401
Subject: re: Covid in China

ms spock said:

I found another source that argues it is not so bad. I will post it here later.

turns out that a whole heap of other countries have lost several people to diabetes heart attack and stroke more than usually expected as well, it’s mysterious and surprising isn’t it

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Date: 30/12/2022 17:07:01
From: transition
ID: 1973420
Subject: re: Covid in China

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

ms spock said:

It would be interesting to really know what is going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkz-miPhOBE

watched that

if you take the concept of an R value, apply it to a contagious belief, that china should open up…

it doesn’t take much to get it rolling

thing is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times

while we agree it is useful to have a broad diversity of opinions to draw perspective from

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/technology/epoch-times-influence-falun-gong.html

we also suggest that people be cautious when dealing with some of the narratives lest people be drawn down a fantastic trail

reading that latter now

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Date: 30/12/2022 17:12:18
From: transition
ID: 1973421
Subject: re: Covid in China

SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

I found another source that argues it is not so bad. I will post it here later.

turns out that a whole heap of other countries have lost several people to diabetes heart attack and stroke more than usually expected as well, it’s mysterious and surprising isn’t it

ya gotta make good wild unlimited plague, plenty abundance of common deception potential for that, like half of any sample of people with omicron probably don’t experience symptoms, so there’s a good start, they don’t even experience their immune system’s plugged into their brains, of covid

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Date: 30/12/2022 18:20:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1973438
Subject: re: Covid in China

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

watched that

if you take the concept of an R value, apply it to a contagious belief, that china should open up…

it doesn’t take much to get it rolling

thing is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times

while we agree it is useful to have a broad diversity of opinions to draw perspective from

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/technology/epoch-times-influence-falun-gong.html

we also suggest that people be cautious when dealing with some of the narratives lest people be drawn down a fantastic trail

reading that latter now

all we’re saying is in the information void that is CHINA fucking up COVID-19, we would be careful sourcing information from known right wing sources with destabilising agenda

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Date: 30/12/2022 18:55:12
From: ms spock
ID: 1973446
Subject: re: Covid in China

SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

I found another source that argues it is not so bad. I will post it here later.

turns out that a whole heap of other countries have lost several people to diabetes heart attack and stroke more than usually expected as well, it’s mysterious and surprising isn’t it

It is mysterious and surprising! That it is indeed SCIENCE!

No idea why that could be happening!

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Date: 30/12/2022 19:18:14
From: ms spock
ID: 1973457
Subject: re: Covid in China

https://twitter.com/jenniferzeng97/status/1608278998542327810

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Date: 2/01/2023 21:01:54
From: ms spock
ID: 1974904
Subject: re: Covid in China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92MuLkjr56s

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Date: 3/01/2023 00:59:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1975027
Subject: re: Covid in China

ms spock said:

https://twitter.com/jenniferzeng97/status/1608278998542327810

LOL

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Date: 4/01/2023 16:09:28
From: ms spock
ID: 1975684
Subject: re: Covid in China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-nebjDNOlk

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Date: 9/01/2023 23:19:58
From: ms spock
ID: 1978372
Subject: re: Covid in China

As always hard to know what is really happening in China.

Scientific body reveals disturbing fact about Covid-19 fatality in China

Link (2 minutes 30 seconds)

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Date: 10/01/2023 00:01:52
From: ms spock
ID: 1978381
Subject: re: Covid in China

Stirring public opinion: Three members of a family of six passed away within five days.

Link name

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Date: 17/01/2023 22:37:24
From: ms spock
ID: 1982490
Subject: re: Covid in China

Top Chinese military school issues 19 obituaries in 2 weeks; Xinhua admits CCP’s failed zero COVID

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWrrZjobpJ8

We will never know the real numbers.

Chinese people are all jumping on planes to get mRNA vaccinations overseas. No bivalent available in China. Same problem in Australia unless you meet a certain select criteria. Being a politician, someone rich or immunocompromised? Not all high risk folks with disabilities can get vaccinated. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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