https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/08/billionaires-emit-a-million-times-more-greenhouse-gases-than-the-average-person-oxfam.html
ms spock said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/08/billionaires-emit-a-million-times-more-greenhouse-gases-than-the-average-person-oxfam.html
shakes fist at Simon Holmes à Court.
Peak Warming Man said:
ms spock said:https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/08/billionaires-emit-a-million-times-more-greenhouse-gases-than-the-average-person-oxfam.html
shakes fist at Simon Holmes à Court.
Heating and cooling large homes, owing more than one car, flying all over the place.
Must be heaps of other energy wasting behaviours.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Peak Warming Man said:
ms spock said:https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/08/billionaires-emit-a-million-times-more-greenhouse-gases-than-the-average-person-oxfam.html
shakes fist at Simon Holmes à Court.
Heating and cooling large homes, owing more than one car, flying all over the place.
Must be heaps of other energy wasting behaviours.
Even people like you and me use far more resources than people in 3rd world countries, which is the elephant in the room when we say people will reduce their population when they become more educated and improve their standard of living, but what they forget is they then (even with a smaller family) consume far more than when they were poor and uneducated. This is unsustainable whichever way you look at it and requires a NEW more sustainable way of living and that means everyone!
so technology can only ever increase the local ecological damage
ms spock said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/08/billionaires-emit-a-million-times-more-greenhouse-gases-than-the-average-person-oxfam.html
I hate the billionaires as much as anyone, but there is some really dodgy accounting in that article.
I mean if someone goes on a space exploration every weekend, then fair enough, they are responsible for the associated emissions.
But if we are looking at emissions from manufacturing, the people responsible for those emissions are the people who use the goods and services provided, not the people who have invested in the companies.
SCIENCE said:
so technology can only ever increase the local ecological damage
If it uses large amounts of a common resource or incorporates a rare resource in their products. All these resources need to be found, collected, produced or mined, which required machinery, fuel, labour and other resources to produce the raw material. Then the product needs to be designed, manufactured, packaged, marketed and sold. Then delivered into store for purchase so they can be used. So, although technology might be great and even small in size, the background needed to bring it or anything else to market is considerable.
The Rev Dodgson said:
ms spock said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/08/billionaires-emit-a-million-times-more-greenhouse-gases-than-the-average-person-oxfam.html
I hate the billionaires as much as anyone, but there is some really dodgy accounting in that article.I mean if someone goes on a space exploration every weekend, then fair enough, they are responsible for the associated emissions.
But if we are looking at emissions from manufacturing, the people responsible for those emissions are the people who use the goods and services provided, not the people who have invested in the companies.
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
KJW said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
ms spock said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/08/billionaires-emit-a-million-times-more-greenhouse-gases-than-the-average-person-oxfam.html
I hate the billionaires as much as anyone, but there is some really dodgy accounting in that article.I mean if someone goes on a space exploration every weekend, then fair enough, they are responsible for the associated emissions.
But if we are looking at emissions from manufacturing, the people responsible for those emissions are the people who use the goods and services provided, not the people who have invested in the companies.
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
I think a chunk can go to the consumer, and a chunk can go to those who earn a passive income from the factory.
Cynical reply.
Oxfam emits a million times more hot air than the average billionaire.
mollwollfumble said:
Cynical reply.Oxfam emits a million times more hot air than the average billionaire.
If only that was true.
PermeateFree said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Peak Warming Man said:shakes fist at Simon Holmes à Court.
Heating and cooling large homes, owing more than one car, flying all over the place.
Must be heaps of other energy wasting behaviours.
Even people like you and me use far more resources than people in 3rd world countries, which is the elephant in the room when we say people will reduce their population when they become more educated and improve their standard of living, but what they forget is they then (even with a smaller family) consume far more than when they were poor and uneducated. This is unsustainable whichever way you look at it and requires a NEW more sustainable way of living and that means everyone!
This is what we call the unfortunate truth.