Date: 9/01/2023 12:10:29
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1978134
Subject: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/autistic-people-experience-higher-rates-of-domestic-violence-study-shows/vi-AA1670Li?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e679e148fc4545c48147892a99a64a47

Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence, study shows

Recent studies show with autistic people experience higher rates of domestic and family violence compared to the rest of the population. Advocates are calling for more awareness of the issue, and for support services to have a greater understanding of autism

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Date: 10/01/2023 08:12:30
From: ms spock
ID: 1978442
Subject: re: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

It’s a real worry Monkey Skipper.

Folks are not getting the support to get out of these situations. Abbott cut $300 million from domestic violence.

There’s just not enough places.

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Date: 10/01/2023 08:18:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1978445
Subject: re: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

ms spock said:


It’s a real worry Monkey Skipper.

Folks are not getting the support to get out of these situations. Abbott cut $300 million from domestic violence.

There’s just not enough places.

and DV is more common than the cold.

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Date: 10/01/2023 08:35:10
From: ms spock
ID: 1978451
Subject: re: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

It’s a real worry Monkey Skipper.

Folks are not getting the support to get out of these situations. Abbott cut $300 million from domestic violence.

There’s just not enough places.

and DV is more common than the cold.

1 in 3 women in Australia live with domestic violence. I ran away when I was 15, was stalked in my twenties, and in my late thirties and early forties my father continued to stalk me. He moved 8-10 blocks away from me in Wollongong and suddenly I could barely go anywhere without him stalking me but being at the end of the block so we didn’t appear in the same video camera. I am estranged from my family, they acknowledge that if I hadn’t run away when I was 15 getting the school involved he would have killed us all but they hate my guts from leaving. So we never talk. I haven’t seen them for decades. I won’t see them again. The legacy of domestic violence has hit the next generation in a big way. I have never met any of my nieces or nephews but heard through a friend of the family that one of my sisters basically married our father, and so she had to go on the run as well. (I had nothing to do with any of that, as I said I am estranged).

My brother who is autistic certainly copped a particular kind of sadistic brutality and violence from my father. I used to stand in between them and try and stop it, but I was only in my early teens. Sometimes I was successful, sometimes not so much. I tried to keep my brother with autism away from my father at all times when he was in the house. It was exhausting.

The intergenerational nature of it is challenging. My brother without autism, when he was really young turned to alcohol. He is apparently drunk the majority of the time as he is terrified of turning into our father. I understand that I am terrified into turning out like my mother or father. They are sadistic, evil people.

Abbott gutted domestic violence funding in Australia. It was so devastating.

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Date: 10/01/2023 08:36:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1978452
Subject: re: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

ms spock said:


roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

It’s a real worry Monkey Skipper.

Folks are not getting the support to get out of these situations. Abbott cut $300 million from domestic violence.

There’s just not enough places.

and DV is more common than the cold.

1 in 3 women in Australia live with domestic violence. I ran away when I was 15, was stalked in my twenties, and in my late thirties and early forties my father continued to stalk me. He moved 8-10 blocks away from me in Wollongong and suddenly I could barely go anywhere without him stalking me but being at the end of the block so we didn’t appear in the same video camera. I am estranged from my family, they acknowledge that if I hadn’t run away when I was 15 getting the school involved he would have killed us all but they hate my guts from leaving. So we never talk. I haven’t seen them for decades. I won’t see them again. The legacy of domestic violence has hit the next generation in a big way. I have never met any of my nieces or nephews but heard through a friend of the family that one of my sisters basically married our father, and so she had to go on the run as well. (I had nothing to do with any of that, as I said I am estranged).

My brother who is autistic certainly copped a particular kind of sadistic brutality and violence from my father. I used to stand in between them and try and stop it, but I was only in my early teens. Sometimes I was successful, sometimes not so much. I tried to keep my brother with autism away from my father at all times when he was in the house. It was exhausting.

The intergenerational nature of it is challenging. My brother without autism, when he was really young turned to alcohol. He is apparently drunk the majority of the time as he is terrified of turning into our father. I understand that I am terrified into turning out like my mother or father. They are sadistic, evil people.

Abbott gutted domestic violence funding in Australia. It was so devastating.

If 1 in 3 women experience DV then it stands to reason that 1 in 3 men have too.

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Date: 10/01/2023 08:39:52
From: ms spock
ID: 1978453
Subject: re: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

roughbarked said:

and DV is more common than the cold.

1 in 3 women in Australia live with domestic violence. I ran away when I was 15, was stalked in my twenties, and in my late thirties and early forties my father continued to stalk me. He moved 8-10 blocks away from me in Wollongong and suddenly I could barely go anywhere without him stalking me but being at the end of the block so we didn’t appear in the same video camera. I am estranged from my family, they acknowledge that if I hadn’t run away when I was 15 getting the school involved he would have killed us all but they hate my guts from leaving. So we never talk. I haven’t seen them for decades. I won’t see them again. The legacy of domestic violence has hit the next generation in a big way. I have never met any of my nieces or nephews but heard through a friend of the family that one of my sisters basically married our father, and so she had to go on the run as well. (I had nothing to do with any of that, as I said I am estranged).

My brother who is autistic certainly copped a particular kind of sadistic brutality and violence from my father. I used to stand in between them and try and stop it, but I was only in my early teens. Sometimes I was successful, sometimes not so much. I tried to keep my brother with autism away from my father at all times when he was in the house. It was exhausting.

The intergenerational nature of it is challenging. My brother without autism, when he was really young turned to alcohol. He is apparently drunk the majority of the time as he is terrified of turning into our father. I understand that I am terrified into turning out like my mother or father. They are sadistic, evil people.

Abbott gutted domestic violence funding in Australia. It was so devastating.

If 1 in 3 women experience DV then it stands to reason that 1 in 3 men have too.

The same sex child, my autistic brother got an increased level of vitriol and abuse. My brother wihtout autism was destroyed by the domestic violence, and has been on the edge of suicide since his pre teens. How do you construct a male identity as a young man with the man who is your father is an extremely violent rapist? I wonder if this is linked to the high suicide rate of our young men? They don’t want to risk being like that so they end it to prevent themselves being like that?

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Date: 10/01/2023 08:40:45
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1978454
Subject: re: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

roughbarked said:


ms spock said:

It’s a real worry Monkey Skipper.

Folks are not getting the support to get out of these situations. Abbott cut $300 million from domestic violence.

There’s just not enough places.

and DV is more common than the cold.

I think the lady in the vidoe who grew up with undiagnosed autism and the pattern of abuse and the misunderstanding of why she is the way she is and then understanding she was being taken advantage of people around her and into her adult relationships. She even said, if she knew about the diagnosis it would have given her the power to turn rebel against her treatment and say no.

Maybe part of the solution is having people understand what DV is , rather than having the abused try and reconcile what behaviours they have to change to appease the abusers.

I am also of the view the laws for change should be about removing the abusers – ankle bracelets for a DV cases would give a warning to the abused and also the police that the offender is about the breach the AVO . Time could be the difference between a breach of a an AVO and a death.

We need female and male DV centres that work with the abusers to change their behaviors and custodial time specifically for this problem. The money needs to be spend their, take the subject out of the closet have employers wait for abusers to get through treatments to make it possible for change. May it okay for employees to come forward just like mental health when time off is required for treament.

My best guess is focussing on getting the abusers into real treatments will break the cycle and for those who don’t want to get on that band wagon , the gaol it is and ankle bracelets regardless , so that their families have a chance for safety.

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Date: 10/01/2023 08:48:59
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1978456
Subject: re: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

I think the lady in the video who grew up with undiagnosed autism and the pattern of abuse and the misunderstanding of why she is the way she is and then understanding she was being taken advantage of by the people around her and into her adult relationships.

She even said, if she knew about the diagnosis it would have given her the power to turn into a rebel against her treatment and say no.

Maybe part of the solution is having people understand what DV is , rather than having the abused try and reconcile what behaviours they have to change to appease the abusers.

I am also of the view the laws for change should be about removing the abusers – ankle bracelets for a DV cases would give a warning to the abused and also the police that the offender is about the breach the AVO . Time could be the difference between a breach of a an AVO and a death.

We need female and male DV centres that work with the abusers to change their behaviors and custodial time specifically for this problem.

The money needs to be spent there, take the subject out of the closet to have employers wait for abusers to get through their treatments to make it possible for change.

Make it okay for employees to come forward just like mental health when they need the time off is required for treatment.

My best guess is focussing on getting the abusers into real treatments will break the cycle and for those who don’t want to get on that band wagon, then gaol it is and ankle bracelets regardless, so that their families have a chance for safety.

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Date: 10/01/2023 08:57:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1978457
Subject: re: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

ms spock said:


roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

1 in 3 women in Australia live with domestic violence. I ran away when I was 15, was stalked in my twenties, and in my late thirties and early forties my father continued to stalk me. He moved 8-10 blocks away from me in Wollongong and suddenly I could barely go anywhere without him stalking me but being at the end of the block so we didn’t appear in the same video camera. I am estranged from my family, they acknowledge that if I hadn’t run away when I was 15 getting the school involved he would have killed us all but they hate my guts from leaving. So we never talk. I haven’t seen them for decades. I won’t see them again. The legacy of domestic violence has hit the next generation in a big way. I have never met any of my nieces or nephews but heard through a friend of the family that one of my sisters basically married our father, and so she had to go on the run as well. (I had nothing to do with any of that, as I said I am estranged).

My brother who is autistic certainly copped a particular kind of sadistic brutality and violence from my father. I used to stand in between them and try and stop it, but I was only in my early teens. Sometimes I was successful, sometimes not so much. I tried to keep my brother with autism away from my father at all times when he was in the house. It was exhausting.

The intergenerational nature of it is challenging. My brother without autism, when he was really young turned to alcohol. He is apparently drunk the majority of the time as he is terrified of turning into our father. I understand that I am terrified into turning out like my mother or father. They are sadistic, evil people.

Abbott gutted domestic violence funding in Australia. It was so devastating.

If 1 in 3 women experience DV then it stands to reason that 1 in 3 men have too.

The same sex child, my autistic brother got an increased level of vitriol and abuse. My brother wihtout autism was destroyed by the domestic violence, and has been on the edge of suicide since his pre teens. How do you construct a male identity as a young man with the man who is your father is an extremely violent rapist? I wonder if this is linked to the high suicide rate of our young men? They don’t want to risk being like that so they end it to prevent themselves being like that?

There is evidence that some do.

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Date: 10/01/2023 08:59:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1978458
Subject: re: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

monkey skipper said:


roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

It’s a real worry Monkey Skipper.

Folks are not getting the support to get out of these situations. Abbott cut $300 million from domestic violence.

There’s just not enough places.

and DV is more common than the cold.

I think the lady in the vidoe who grew up with undiagnosed autism and the pattern of abuse and the misunderstanding of why she is the way she is and then understanding she was being taken advantage of people around her and into her adult relationships. She even said, if she knew about the diagnosis it would have given her the power to turn rebel against her treatment and say no.

Maybe part of the solution is having people understand what DV is , rather than having the abused try and reconcile what behaviours they have to change to appease the abusers.

I am also of the view the laws for change should be about removing the abusers – ankle bracelets for a DV cases would give a warning to the abused and also the police that the offender is about the breach the AVO . Time could be the difference between a breach of a an AVO and a death.

We need female and male DV centres that work with the abusers to change their behaviors and custodial time specifically for this problem. The money needs to be spend their, take the subject out of the closet have employers wait for abusers to get through treatments to make it possible for change. May it okay for employees to come forward just like mental health when time off is required for treament.

My best guess is focussing on getting the abusers into real treatments will break the cycle and for those who don’t want to get on that band wagon , the gaol it is and ankle bracelets regardless , so that their families have a chance for safety.

Real diagnoses. Real treatments. Is the way to approach. People may not want to be violent but are triggered too easily for whatever mental health reason.

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Date: 10/01/2023 10:07:12
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1978473
Subject: re: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

roughbarked said:


monkey skipper said:

roughbarked said:

and DV is more common than the cold.

I think the lady in the vidoe who grew up with undiagnosed autism and the pattern of abuse and the misunderstanding of why she is the way she is and then understanding she was being taken advantage of people around her and into her adult relationships. She even said, if she knew about the diagnosis it would have given her the power to turn rebel against her treatment and say no.

Maybe part of the solution is having people understand what DV is , rather than having the abused try and reconcile what behaviours they have to change to appease the abusers.

I am also of the view the laws for change should be about removing the abusers – ankle bracelets for a DV cases would give a warning to the abused and also the police that the offender is about the breach the AVO . Time could be the difference between a breach of a an AVO and a death.

We need female and male DV centres that work with the abusers to change their behaviors and custodial time specifically for this problem. The money needs to be spend their, take the subject out of the closet have employers wait for abusers to get through treatments to make it possible for change. May it okay for employees to come forward just like mental health when time off is required for treament.

My best guess is focussing on getting the abusers into real treatments will break the cycle and for those who don’t want to get on that band wagon , the gaol it is and ankle bracelets regardless , so that their families have a chance for safety.

Real diagnoses. Real treatments. Is the way to approach. People may not want to be violent but are triggered too easily for whatever mental health reason.

As a nation we are trying to treat the wounded but without stopping the war itself. Maybe understanding that will make a difference in how we going forward.

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Date: 10/01/2023 10:23:30
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1978481
Subject: re: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

ms spock said:


roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

1 in 3 women in Australia live with domestic violence. I ran away when I was 15, was stalked in my twenties, and in my late thirties and early forties my father continued to stalk me. He moved 8-10 blocks away from me in Wollongong and suddenly I could barely go anywhere without him stalking me but being at the end of the block so we didn’t appear in the same video camera. I am estranged from my family, they acknowledge that if I hadn’t run away when I was 15 getting the school involved he would have killed us all but they hate my guts from leaving. So we never talk. I haven’t seen them for decades. I won’t see them again. The legacy of domestic violence has hit the next generation in a big way. I have never met any of my nieces or nephews but heard through a friend of the family that one of my sisters basically married our father, and so she had to go on the run as well. (I had nothing to do with any of that, as I said I am estranged).

My brother who is autistic certainly copped a particular kind of sadistic brutality and violence from my father. I used to stand in between them and try and stop it, but I was only in my early teens. Sometimes I was successful, sometimes not so much. I tried to keep my brother with autism away from my father at all times when he was in the house. It was exhausting.

The intergenerational nature of it is challenging. My brother without autism, when he was really young turned to alcohol. He is apparently drunk the majority of the time as he is terrified of turning into our father. I understand that I am terrified into turning out like my mother or father. They are sadistic, evil people.

Abbott gutted domestic violence funding in Australia. It was so devastating.

If 1 in 3 women experience DV then it stands to reason that 1 in 3 men have too.

The same sex child, my autistic brother got an increased level of vitriol and abuse. My brother without autism was destroyed by the domestic violence and has been on the edge of suicide since his pre-teens. How do you construct a male identity as a young man with the man who is your father is an extremely violent rapist? I wonder if this is linked to the high suicide rate of our young men. They don’t want to risk being like that, so they end it to prevent themselves being like that.

It is a guess, although for sure most rape victims find reporting what happened is very difficult, I imagine for boys and men that might be even harder because they are male, they might think the stigma is higher even if their own perception.

In reality the majority of society would hope any gender can report a DV event safely.

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Date: 10/01/2023 10:28:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1978483
Subject: re: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

monkey skipper said:


ms spock said:

roughbarked said:

If 1 in 3 women experience DV then it stands to reason that 1 in 3 men have too.

The same sex child, my autistic brother got an increased level of vitriol and abuse. My brother without autism was destroyed by the domestic violence and has been on the edge of suicide since his pre-teens. How do you construct a male identity as a young man with the man who is your father is an extremely violent rapist? I wonder if this is linked to the high suicide rate of our young men. They don’t want to risk being like that, so they end it to prevent themselves being like that.

It is a guess, although for sure most rape victims find reporting what happened is very difficult, I imagine for boys and men that might be even harder because they are male, they might think the stigma is higher even if their own perception.

In reality the majority of society would hope any gender can report a DV event safely.

Anyone can call Lifeline™ at any time.

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Date: 10/01/2023 23:55:33
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1978790
Subject: re: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

Autistic people tend to be more violent. They can be exceedingly violent.
Rather than let off steam verbally, they explode with physical violence.

> Anyone here rung lifeline.

It’s a joke, right. “I called lifeline and they put me on hold”. It actually happened to me. I was spinning mentally out of control at the time, so bad I couldn’t actually dial the phone correctly. Eventually got the same wrong number twice, a police station, and the second time they were able to help.

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Date: 11/01/2023 06:59:36
From: transition
ID: 1978817
Subject: re: Autistic people experience higher rates of domestic violence

imagine all the ‘selection pressures’ that resulted in the progression of native psychological mindedness, probably most people avoid imagining that, which wouldn’t bother the narcissists much

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