The University of Western Sydney has been at the fore front of this. Rule 303 put me on to this. It has a huge impact for some people

This isn’t the article I want to post to this thread. It’s too basic, but I am running out of time.

Few people are aware of the connection between nutrition and depression while they easily understand the connection between nutritional deficiencies and physical illness. Depression is more typically thought of as strictly biochemical-based or emotionally-rooted. On the contrary, nutrition can play a key role in the onset as well as severity and duration of depression. Many of the easily noticeable food patterns that precede depression are the same as those that occur during depression. These may include poor appetite, skipping meals, and a dominant desire for sweet foods. Nutritional neuroscience is an emerging discipline shedding light on the fact that nutritional factors are intertwined with human cognition, behavior, and emotions.

Indian J Psychiatry. 2008 Apr-Jun; 50(2): 77–82.
doi: 10.4103/0019-5545.42391
PMCID: PMC2738337
PMID: 19742217
Understanding nutrition, depression and mental illnessesT. S. Sathyanarayana Rao, M. R. Asha,1 B. N. Ramesh,2 and K. S. Jagannatha Rao2

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When I find the articles on the connection of dissipation of suicidal impulses and diet I will post them here.

Australia has been a leader in this arena.
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I get sent a lot of free conferences – this one on nutrition is free. (And if you aren’t sure if you can join live, register anyway and you’ll receive 14-day access to the recorded content to watch at your own pace!) This isn’t the conference on suicide that I talked about previously. I won’t forget to post that to the forum.

Hi Kate,

I’m going live for a free 3-day training on Nutrition for Mental Health on Wednesday next week.

This is your opportunity to discover integrative, safe, and affordable evidence-based holistic nutrition approaches designed to help your clients achieve optimal health & wellness and address common mental health problems.

You’ll learn the principles and strategies you need to add the power of nutrition, diet, and digestion to your clinical toolbox — forever changing your approach to client care and enhancing the efficacy of all your other clinical methods…  
>>Get all the details and register here. 
https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/K_B2CGvmyYHJwBARwuMWJb3?domain=emailhub.pesi.com

Look forward to seeing you there,

Leslie Korn, PhD, MPH, LMHC

P.S. Don’t miss your opportunity to learn about one of today’s most desirable therapies by both clinicians and patients alike…

And if you aren’t sure if you can join us live, register anyway and you’ll receive 14-day access to the recorded content to watch at your own pace!

>>Here’s your link to learn more and register one more time.
https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/3fTOCJypGYh8xBKvxHDZkn-?domain=emailhub.pesi.com

François Desseilles 1 , Gladys Mikolajczak, Martin Desseilles
Affiliations

PMID: 23666282 DOI: 10.7202/1014945ar

Free article

Abstract

This article proposes a new bio-psychosocial perspective on the links between mental health, more specifically suicide, and nutrition. We first discuss the links between nutrition, its social role and suicide. The act of eating is studied as a social integrator and regulator, in the light of Durkheim’s theorization. Nutrition is also examined as self-destruction, with particular cases of “diet-related suicide.” De-structuring of meals and alienating foods are identified as contributing factors to the de-structuring of “nutrition models.” We then discuss the place of food within the psychopathology, and finally, the links between biological parameters reflected in food and suicide risk. Avenues of research and intervention along this bio-psychosocial approach are also proposed.

The Relationship between Diet and Suicide Risk and Resilience in Wildland Firefighters
by Katherine Bode, Logan Smith, Tony Wells, Gena Wollenberg, Jllian Joyce

Current Developments in Nutrition, Volume 6, Issue Supplement_1, June 2022, Page 348, https://doi.org/10.1093/cdn/nzac054.003
Published: 14 June 2022

ms spock said:

The Relationship between Diet and Suicide Risk and Resilience in Wildland Firefighters
by Katherine Bode, Logan Smith, Tony Wells, Gena Wollenberg, Jllian Joyce

Current Developments in Nutrition, Volume 6, Issue Supplement_1, June 2022, Page 348, https://doi.org/10.1093/cdn/nzac054.003
Published: 14 June 2022

I’m not buying it. One of these days, within the next six months, I’ll bring out my “if nutrition was a science” document.

mollwollfumble said:

ms spock said:

The Relationship between Diet and Suicide Risk and Resilience in Wildland Firefighters
by Katherine Bode, Logan Smith, Tony Wells, Gena Wollenberg, Jllian Joyce

Current Developments in Nutrition, Volume 6, Issue Supplement_1, June 2022, Page 348, https://doi.org/10.1093/cdn/nzac054.003
Published: 14 June 2022

I’m not buying it. One of these days, within the next six months, I’ll bring out my “if nutrition was a science” document.

You don’t have to buy it mollwollfumble. And it is always good to question, pull apart the information and examine it critically.

This is for a few folks that are interested in the free suicide conference which I will post to the forum. I look for free professional development for therapists, counsellors, psychologists and psychiatrists. In Pakistan a psychologist can charge $1.38 cents for a therapy session so any free professional development I can find a mental health professional in a third world or underserved community, I am doing just a tiny bit to help out. A lot of folks don’t live on $135 per year. Free education is crucial for them and their communities. In Australia the biggest burden of suicide is in our remote and rural areas particularly amongst our Indigenous brothers and sisters.

Western Sydney University has been a bit cutting edge on the connection between depression and gut biome and diet. I saw it work amazingly for one woman. (Just anecdotal evidence I know!)

For those of us that have lost people to suicide, we always are kind of trying to find out something else. You know if we had known that at the time we could have helped. I had a dear friend commit suicide on the 12th of August. I will never forget her and I will always discuss anything to do with suicide that others might be interested in because if I could help prevent one suicide then it is worth it.

This research I have found quite interesting. And having enough food to eat and having a place to live are the most basic of mental health treatments. 1 in 5 kids go to school without breakfast or to bed without dinner. Australia produces enough food for three times our population. We can make different policy decisions.

I’m depressed, like majorly so and crave sweet foods as a pick me up, don’t eat properly as I can’t be bothered, vicious circle really

Gut biome research is interesting, seems to cause health problems and its never really been researched until recently.

Cymek said:

I’m depressed, like majorly so and crave sweet foods as a pick me up, don’t eat properly as I can’t be bothered, vicious circle really

It’s really hard when you are that depressed you can only eat sugar! It’s a really vicious circle. It is a tough one to really manage.

Cymek said:

Gut biome research is interesting, seems to cause health problems and its never really been researched until recently.

Gut biome research is amazing! It really is!

I read “How The Hidden Conversation Within Our Bodies Impacts Our Mood, Our Choices, And Our Overall Health” by Emeran Mayer

and Sydney University has looked into it a little bit.

https://www.sydney.edu.au/charles-perkins-centre/our-research/current-research/nutrition/gut-microbiome.html – I haven’t got their research papers but they are also weighing in like Western Sydney University.

Family Food Insufficiency, but Not Low Family Income, Is Positively Associated with Dysthymia and Suicide Symptoms in Adolescents
Katherine Alaimo, Christine M. Olson, Edward A. Frongillo Author Notes
The Journal of Nutrition, Volume 132, Issue 4, April 2002, Pages 719–725, https://doi.org/10.1093/jn/132.4.719
Published:
01 April 2002

https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/132/4/719/4687337