Date: 18/01/2023 20:20:41
From: ms spock
ID: 1982991
Subject: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

I have been wondering why so much research from countries with non-white peoples don’t seem to impact in our Australian media?

Any thoughts?

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Date: 18/01/2023 20:35:59
From: dv
ID: 1982999
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

Do you have any stats on that?

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Date: 18/01/2023 20:47:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1983005
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

dv said:


Do you have any stats on that?

Well I’m not going to dwell too long on the campaign for a voice

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Date: 18/01/2023 20:56:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1983014
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

ms spock said:

I have been wondering why so much research from countries with non-white peoples don’t seem to impact in our Australian media?

Any thoughts?

In my upbringing, it was pure chance really that I was born of a self taught teacher. She had books that were educational standard but unaccepted by the current school curriculm at the time. They told a truer tale of the indigenous peoples than what I was taught in school, among other undisclosed knowledge as far as school at the time was doing for me.

She probably either never noticed that I’d read these or had put them there for me to find.

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Date: 18/01/2023 20:58:16
From: ms spock
ID: 1983017
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

dv said:


Do you have any stats on that?

No stats dv at all just curious what other folks are thinking.

Prof Raina MacIntyre (a woman of colour) did extensive research in Australia and she is an international expert in her area. She went to a conference and another Australian came in went up to another white woman and said “You must be the other Australian? And I was hearing what some other folks were saying about their experiences, and how the experts in their countries research wasn’t taken seriously, that white academics really questioned it and said how do you know that this is so? So I was wondering if anyone else has considered this and/or know friends/family/colleague that have encountered this?

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Date: 18/01/2023 21:01:45
From: sibeen
ID: 1983022
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

ms spock said:


dv said:

Do you have any stats on that?

No stats dv at all just curious what other folks are thinking.

Prof Raina MacIntyre (a woman of colour) did extensive research in Australia and she is an international expert in her area. She went to a conference and another Australian came in went up to another white woman and said “You must be the other Australian? And I was hearing what some other folks were saying about their experiences, and how the experts in their countries research wasn’t taken seriously, that white academics really questioned it and said how do you know that this is so? So I was wondering if anyone else has considered this and/or know friends/family/colleague that have encountered this?

MacIntyre has been a regular commentator and contributor to Covid epidemiology, in The Guardian, The Sydney Morning Herald, as well as ABC News and Q+A. In a lunch interview with The Sydney Morning Herald she was described as a ‘globally renowned” and “the cautious coronavirus communicator”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raina_MacIntyre

Doesn’t appear as if she is being ignored.

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Date: 18/01/2023 21:01:49
From: dv
ID: 1983023
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

ms spock said:


dv said:

Do you have any stats on that?

No stats dv at all just curious what other folks are thinking.

Prof Raina MacIntyre (a woman of colour) did extensive research in Australia and she is an international expert in her area. She went to a conference and another Australian came in went up to another white woman and said “You must be the other Australian? And I was hearing what some other folks were saying about their experiences, and how the experts in their countries research wasn’t taken seriously, that white academics really questioned it and said how do you know that this is so? So I was wondering if anyone else has considered this and/or know friends/family/colleague that have encountered this?

I suppose I’m in a field that doesn’t get media coverage at all, but the papers come from authors from all over: certainly most of them would still be from Europe and North America or Australia but a lot from Latin America or Africa or Asia.

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Date: 18/01/2023 21:13:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1983036
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

sibeen said:


ms spock said:

dv said:

Do you have any stats on that?

No stats dv at all just curious what other folks are thinking.

Prof Raina MacIntyre (a woman of colour) did extensive research in Australia and she is an international expert in her area. She went to a conference and another Australian came in went up to another white woman and said “You must be the other Australian? And I was hearing what some other folks were saying about their experiences, and how the experts in their countries research wasn’t taken seriously, that white academics really questioned it and said how do you know that this is so? So I was wondering if anyone else has considered this and/or know friends/family/colleague that have encountered this?

MacIntyre has been a regular commentator and contributor to Covid epidemiology, in The Guardian, The Sydney Morning Herald, as well as ABC News and Q+A. In a lunch interview with The Sydney Morning Herald she was described as a ‘globally renowned” and “the cautious coronavirus communicator”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raina_MacIntyre

Doesn’t appear as if she is being ignored.

Methinks social media is a different place.

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Date: 18/01/2023 21:31:20
From: ms spock
ID: 1983048
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

sibeen said:


ms spock said:

dv said:

Do you have any stats on that?

No stats dv at all just curious what other folks are thinking.

Prof Raina MacIntyre (a woman of colour) did extensive research in Australia and she is an international expert in her area. She went to a conference and another Australian came in went up to another white woman and said “You must be the other Australian? And I was hearing what some other folks were saying about their experiences, and how the experts in their countries research wasn’t taken seriously, that white academics really questioned it and said how do you know that this is so? So I was wondering if anyone else has considered this and/or know friends/family/colleague that have encountered this?

MacIntyre has been a regular commentator and contributor to Covid epidemiology, in The Guardian, The Sydney Morning Herald, as well as ABC News and Q+A. In a lunch interview with The Sydney Morning Herald she was described as a ‘globally renowned” and “the cautious coronavirus communicator”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raina_MacIntyre

Doesn’t appear as if she is being ignored.

That is not her experience as she discusses it though. She gave up talking to the Australian media due to how she was treated. Whilst she figured often early on. That was not sustained.

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Date: 18/01/2023 22:05:33
From: sibeen
ID: 1983059
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

ms spock said:


sibeen said:

ms spock said:

No stats dv at all just curious what other folks are thinking.

Prof Raina MacIntyre (a woman of colour) did extensive research in Australia and she is an international expert in her area. She went to a conference and another Australian came in went up to another white woman and said “You must be the other Australian? And I was hearing what some other folks were saying about their experiences, and how the experts in their countries research wasn’t taken seriously, that white academics really questioned it and said how do you know that this is so? So I was wondering if anyone else has considered this and/or know friends/family/colleague that have encountered this?

MacIntyre has been a regular commentator and contributor to Covid epidemiology, in The Guardian, The Sydney Morning Herald, as well as ABC News and Q+A. In a lunch interview with The Sydney Morning Herald she was described as a ‘globally renowned” and “the cautious coronavirus communicator”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raina_MacIntyre

Doesn’t appear as if she is being ignored.

That is not her experience as she discusses it though. She gave up talking to the Australian media due to how she was treated. Whilst she figured often early on. That was not sustained.

The last time she was quoted in the Gran was only a month ago:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/08/weak-political-leadership-putting-australians-at-risk-of-long-covid-unknowns-ama-says

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Date: 18/01/2023 23:16:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1983077
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

dv said:

Do you have any stats on that?

yes but they were collected by non white people so nobody cares

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Date: 19/01/2023 00:00:45
From: Arts
ID: 1983086
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

We don’t talk to the media in our field and lose some respect for people who do…

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Date: 19/01/2023 00:44:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1983118
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

Arts said:

We don’t talk to the media in our field and lose some respect for people who do…

except they’re the ones who get famous and influence so who’s laughing loudest then

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Date: 19/01/2023 09:54:50
From: Arts
ID: 1983189
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

SCIENCE said:

Arts said:

We don’t talk to the media in our field and lose some respect for people who do…

except they’re the ones who get famous and influence so who’s laughing loudest then

if you are in this field for fame, you’re doing it wrong.

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Date: 19/01/2023 09:57:35
From: ms spock
ID: 1983191
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

Arts said:


SCIENCE said:

Arts said:

We don’t talk to the media in our field and lose some respect for people who do…

except they’re the ones who get famous and influence so who’s laughing loudest then

if you are in this field for fame, you’re doing it wrong.

What’s your field Arts?

Answer in chat if you don’t want it in here…

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Date: 19/01/2023 10:10:12
From: Arts
ID: 1983201
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

ms spock said:


Arts said:

SCIENCE said:

except they’re the ones who get famous and influence so who’s laughing loudest then

if you are in this field for fame, you’re doing it wrong.

What’s your field Arts?

Answer in chat if you don’t want it in here…

Criminology.

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Date: 19/01/2023 10:21:19
From: ms spock
ID: 1983210
Subject: re: Research by non white peoples - the reason for it's dismissal in Australia?

Arts said:


ms spock said:

Arts said:

if you are in this field for fame, you’re doing it wrong.

What’s your field Arts?

Answer in chat if you don’t want it in here…

Criminology.

Ta

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