Date: 19/01/2023 15:06:26
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1983339
Subject: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

What is the extent of each, where are the borders, and how do they relate to the rest of the globe and its oceans?

Post your maps and arguments here.

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Date: 19/01/2023 15:08:54
From: Woodie
ID: 1983343
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

Oceans are for sailin’ on, and seas are for swimmin’ in.

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Date: 19/01/2023 15:09:49
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1983345
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

Bubblecar said:


What is the extent of each, where are the borders, and how do they relate to the rest of the globe and its oceans?

Post your maps and arguments here.

Want me to adjudicate?

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Date: 19/01/2023 15:10:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1983346
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

Woodie said:


Oceans are for sailin’ on, and seas are for swimmin’ in.

What about gulfs, bights and bays?

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Date: 19/01/2023 15:11:01
From: Arts
ID: 1983347
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

Woodie said:


Oceans are for sailin’ on, and seas are for swimmin’ in.

There once was a ship that put to sea
The name of the ship was the Billy of Tea
The winds blew up, her bow dipped down
Oh blow, my bully boys, blow (huh)

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Date: 19/01/2023 15:11:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1983348
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

Peak Warming Man said:


Bubblecar said:

What is the extent of each, where are the borders, and how do they relate to the rest of the globe and its oceans?

Post your maps and arguments here.

Want me to adjudicate?

Aye, you and the rest.

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Date: 19/01/2023 15:19:23
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1983353
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

Bubblecar said:


Woodie said:

Oceans are for sailin’ on, and seas are for swimmin’ in.

What about gulfs, bights and bays?

After due consideration by the PWM team and following protocols as set down in Article IV of the Oceans Act (2023) this post has been deemed inappropriate and will be stricken from the record as said listed items are not oceans.
You can of course appeal to the Oceans Ombudsman but to be brutally Frank to do so will only be wasting your time and theirs.
Good day Sir.

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Date: 19/01/2023 15:36:36
From: buffy
ID: 1983360
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ocean

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ocean#Australian_standpoint

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Date: 19/01/2023 15:52:53
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1983367
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

buffy said:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ocean

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ocean#Australian_standpoint

Port Fairy only misses Bass Strait by a leg or two :)

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Date: 19/01/2023 15:53:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1983368
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

they’re all pacific anyway

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Date: 19/01/2023 16:39:10
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1983386
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

buffy said:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ocean

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ocean#Australian_standpoint

That is lovely, Buffy. Clears up more than a few questions.

On the other hand.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Oceans_and_seas_boundaries_map-en.svg

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Date: 19/01/2023 17:49:21
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1983424
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

mollwollfumble said:


buffy said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ocean

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ocean#Australian_standpoint

That is lovely, Buffy. Clears up more than a few questions.

On the other hand.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Oceans_and_seas_boundaries_map-en.svg


Then there’s this one, which clearly marks the waters south of Australia as “Southern Ocean” not “Indian Ocean”

Note how the “exclusive economic zone” on this map includes waters of Australia’s Antarctic Territories, which are not recognised by many other countries.

Or this one. Note how the mid-ocean ridge south of Australia is called “Southeast Indian Ridge” referring to the ocean south of Australia being considered as part of the Indian Ocean.

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Date: 19/01/2023 21:04:53
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1983445
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

So so far, two maps have been posted where the water south of Australia is the Southern Ocean. And two maps have been posted where the water south of Australia is the Indian Ocean.

It’s a tie.

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Date: 19/01/2023 21:06:47
From: dv
ID: 1983446
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

There’s one ocean, which a single contiguous basin. There are some continents and islands in it.

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Date: 19/01/2023 23:01:38
From: party_pants
ID: 1983467
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

dv said:


There’s one ocean, which a single contiguous basin. There are some continents and islands in it.

+1

There is one ‘World Ocean” and any other classification into smaller oceans or seas is artibrary.

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Date: 19/01/2023 23:14:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1983471
Subject: re: Indian Ocean vs Southern Ocean

so it’s all pacific anyway

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