Who invented extraterrestrial aliens?

A) in real science
B) in science fiction
C) in mythology?

Early people would include:
A) Drake (Haldane?, Urey?)
B) Wells, doc Smith, Bradbury (Verne?)
C) I vaguely remember someone being carried to the moon by swans.

mollwollfumble said:

Who invented extraterrestrial aliens?

A) in real science
B) in science fiction
C) in mythology?

Early people would include:
A) Drake (Haldane?, Urey?)
B) Wells, doc Smith, Bradbury (Verne?)
C) I vaguely remember someone being carried to the moon by swans.

God done it.

mollwollfumble said:

Who invented extraterrestrial aliens?

A) in real science
B) in science fiction
C) in mythology?

Early people would include:
A) Drake (Haldane?, Urey?)
B) Wells, doc Smith, Bradbury (Verne?)
C) I vaguely remember someone being carried to the moon by swans.

Democritus (around 400bc) discussed the possibility of other worlds, with beings living on them. Epicurus (around 300bc) extended his ideas to “boundless” other worlds. Are they fiction, science, or mythology?

Speculation about the possibility of inhabited “worlds” outside the planet Earth dates back to antiquity. Multiple early Christian writers discussed the idea of a “plurality of worlds” as proposed by earlier thinkers such as Democritus; Augustine references Epicurus’s idea of innumerable worlds “throughout the boundless immensity of space” (originally expressed in his Letter to Herodotus) in The City of God. In his first century poem De rerum natura (Book 2:1048–1076), the Epicurean philosopher Lucretius predicted that we would find innumerable exoplanets with life-forms similar to, and different from, the ones on Earth, and even other races of man.

Pre-modern writers typically assumed that extraterrestrial “worlds” would be inhabited by living beings. William Vorilong, in the 15th century, acknowledged the possibility that Christ could have visited extraterrestrial worlds to redeem their inhabitants. Nicholas of Cusa wrote in 1440 that the Earth was “a brilliant star” like other celestial objects visible in space, which would appear similar to the Sun from an exterior perspective due to a layer of “fiery brightness” in the outer layer of the atmosphere. He theorized that all extraterrestrial bodies could be inhabited by men, plants, and animals, including the Sun. Descartes wrote that there was no means to prove that the stars were not inhabited by “intelligent creatures,” but their existence was a matter of speculation. The writings of these thinkers show that interest in extraterrestrial life existed throughout history, but it is only recently that humans have had any means of investigating it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_life

mollwollfumble said:

Who invented extraterrestrial aliens?

A) in real science
B) in science fiction
C) in mythology?

Early people would include:
A) Drake (Haldane?, Urey?)
B) Wells, doc Smith, Bradbury (Verne?)
C) I vaguely remember someone being carried to the moon by swans.

With regard to mythology, the angels were not considered to live on Earth.

With regard to fiction, Lucian described travelling to the moon and meeting aliens there around 150 AD.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_True_Story

It’s a bit of a grey area with regard to science but I would certainly say that Schiaparelli had scientific ideas about aliens in 1877.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Speculation about the possibility of inhabited “worlds” outside the planet Earth dates back to antiquity. Multiple early Christian writers discussed the idea of a “plurality of worlds” as proposed by earlier thinkers such as Democritus; Augustine references Epicurus’s idea of innumerable worlds “throughout the boundless immensity of space” (originally expressed in his Letter to Herodotus) in The City of God. In his first century poem De rerum natura (Book 2:1048–1076), the Epicurean philosopher Lucretius predicted that we would find innumerable exoplanets with life-forms similar to, and different from, the ones on Earth, and even other races of man.

Pre-modern writers typically assumed that extraterrestrial “worlds” would be inhabited by living beings. William Vorilong, in the 15th century, acknowledged the possibility that Christ could have visited extraterrestrial worlds to redeem their inhabitants. Nicholas of Cusa wrote in 1440 that the Earth was “a brilliant star” like other celestial objects visible in space, which would appear similar to the Sun from an exterior perspective due to a layer of “fiery brightness” in the outer layer of the atmosphere. He theorized that all extraterrestrial bodies could be inhabited by men, plants, and animals, including the Sun. Descartes wrote that there was no means to prove that the stars were not inhabited by “intelligent creatures,” but their existence was a matter of speculation. The writings of these thinkers show that interest in extraterrestrial life existed throughout history, but it is only recently that humans have had any means of investigating it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_life

I am other to other

which is probably a natural outcome of projecting the possibility of perspective elsewhere, which applied anything outside earth’s atmosphere – a non-resident of earth – originates in that maybe, in I am other to other

democritus

They’ve been around forever

Boulders

Water: creeks, rivers, inlets, lakes

4:00pm

Germans/ German ancestry. Only German physicists

The cone of silence

The old, young, a disability not noticeable to Joe average, high achiever, young men the elite of their kind.

Confused, dazed no recollection.

Never seen again.

Dead

Found in water

High levels of GHB in the body

No visible cause of death : even by a coroner

Found in water, clothes laid neatly in piles nearby

Laid together half naked face down in a relatively inaccessible place

Found in places not expected

In cities/ towns always with alcohol being involved

Mobile phone disabled

Tracking / cadaver dogs no scent – no trail

Hunters, pilots

Elk hunters

The predator

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Who invented extraterrestrial aliens?

A) in real science
B) in science fiction
C) in mythology?

Early people would include:
A) Drake (Haldane?, Urey?)
B) Wells, doc Smith, Bradbury (Verne?)
C) I vaguely remember someone being carried to the moon by swans.

With regard to mythology, the angels were not considered to live on Earth.

With regard to fiction, Lucian described travelling to the moon and meeting aliens there around 150 AD.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_True_Story

It’s a bit of a grey area with regard to science but I would certainly say that Schiaparelli had scientific ideas about aliens in 1877.

From flying chariots pulled by swans to people powered ‘birdbots’:
How 17th century inventors hoped to get to the moon

“One frequently cited text is the Syrian-Greek writer Lucian of Samosata’s 2nd-century satire True History, which uses a voyage to outer space and conversations with alien life forms to comment on the use of exaggeration within travel literature and debates.”

“Percival Lowell (/ˈloʊəl/; March 13, 1855 – November 12, 1916) was an American businessman, author, mathematician, and astronomer who fueled speculation that there were canals on Mars”

“Italian astronomer Giovanni Schiaparelli during the opposition of 1877, and confirmed by later observers. Schiaparelli called these canali (“channels”), which was mis-translated into English as canals”

Cultural superiority (thinking so not actually so) in some cases seems a reason to invent aliens

The pyramids seems to be the text book case, those Egyptians aren’t smart enough to build them without aliens being involved

Pseudoarchaeology and the Racism Behind Ancient Aliens

Where, exactly, the idea of ancient aliens building the pyramids began — and why some academics think racism lies at the heart of many extraterrestrial theories.

Sarah E. Bond November 13, 2018

Where did the theory of aliens building the pyramids actually come from? Since the late 19th century, science fiction writers have imagined Martians and other alien lifeforms engaged in great feats of terrestrial engineering.

!http:https://hyperallergic.com/470795/pseudoarchaeology-and-the-racism-behind-ancient-aliens/

ms spock said:

Pseudoarchaeology and the Racism Behind Ancient Aliens

Where, exactly, the idea of ancient aliens building the pyramids began — and why some academics think racism lies at the heart of many extraterrestrial theories.

Sarah E. Bond November 13, 2018

Where did the theory of aliens building the pyramids actually come from? Since the late 19th century, science fiction writers have imagined Martians and other alien lifeforms engaged in great feats of terrestrial engineering.

!http:https://hyperallergic.com/470795/pseudoarchaeology-and-the-racism-behind-ancient-aliens/

Encephalitis caused that head shape or skull binding from a young age wasn’t it

This one as well, not an alien

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/mar/22/genetic-tests-reveal-tragic-reality-of-atacama-alien-skeleton

Cymek said:

ms spock said:

Pseudoarchaeology and the Racism Behind Ancient Aliens

Where, exactly, the idea of ancient aliens building the pyramids began — and why some academics think racism lies at the heart of many extraterrestrial theories.

Sarah E. Bond November 13, 2018

Where did the theory of aliens building the pyramids actually come from? Since the late 19th century, science fiction writers have imagined Martians and other alien lifeforms engaged in great feats of terrestrial engineering.

!http:https://hyperallergic.com/470795/pseudoarchaeology-and-the-racism-behind-ancient-aliens/

Encephalitis caused that head shape or skull binding from a young age wasn’t it

This one as well, not an alien

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/mar/22/genetic-tests-reveal-tragic-reality-of-atacama-alien-skeleton

I thought it was just a beautiful image. You are right something like that Encephalitis or head binding.

The popularization of the theory of alien architects as having a basis in science rather than consisting of only fictional musing can be attributed to Swiss author Erich von Däniken’s 1968 publication of the book Chariots of the Gods? Unsolved Mysteries of the Past. Originally published in German and subsequently translated into English, it was one of the first popularly sold books to suggest that extraterrestrial life forms, not humans, built structures associated with our ancient civilizations. In 1966, Carl Sagan and Iosif S. Shklovskii had already speculated that contact with extraterrestrials might have occurred in their book Intelligent Life in the Universe, but von Däniken took this theory to new levels.

This year marks the 50th anniversary of that book’s publication with over 65 million books sold to date. While its ideas might be laughable to most, the creation of doubt is a pernicious and rhetorical agent. The questioning of human building projects in Chariots of the Gods? remains a bedrock for many within the field of pseudo-archaeology. Far from innocuous, these alien theories undermine the agency, archaeology, and intellect of non-European cultures in Africa and South America, as well as the Native peoples in North America by erasing their achievements.

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https://youtu.be/YhPNy7hPcWU

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