Date: 29/01/2023 10:38:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1987866
Subject: European Eels

Also from NS.

They are born in the Sargasso Sea, float across the pacific to Europe and N Africa, pass through several different stages, then at about age 16 they swim back to the Sargasso Sea, where the females produce 1000’s of baby eels, then die. Presumably the males die after fathering 1000’s of baby eels as well.

How did all that evolve?

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Date: 29/01/2023 11:05:13
From: dv
ID: 1987874
Subject: re: European Eels

The Rev Dodgson said:


Also from NS.

They are born in the Sargasso Sea, float across the pacific to Europe and N Africa, pass through several different stages, then at about age 16 they swim back to the Sargasso Sea, where the females produce 1000’s of baby eels, then die. Presumably the males die after fathering 1000’s of baby eels as well.

How did all that evolve?

Perhaps the open ocean is safer for eggs and hatchlings than near-coast waters, so there was a successful competitive advantage further and further from the coast until eventually they got to the place furthest from a coast.

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Date: 29/01/2023 11:06:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1987875
Subject: re: European Eels

The Rev Dodgson said:


Also from NS.

They are born in the Sargasso Sea, float across the pacific to Europe and N Africa, pass through several different stages, then at about age 16 they swim back to the Sargasso Sea, where the females produce 1000’s of baby eels, then die. Presumably the males die after fathering 1000’s of baby eels as well.

How did all that evolve?

I don’t know how it evolved. I don’t think anyone does.

Australian eels have a similar life cycle.

https://www.nativefish.asn.au/home/page/Short-Finned-Eel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-finned_eel

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Date: 29/01/2023 11:12:26
From: Michael V
ID: 1987877
Subject: re: European Eels

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2022-01-09/eels-australia-most-hardcore-animal/100572614

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Date: 29/01/2023 11:30:55
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1987885
Subject: re: European Eels

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Also from NS.

They are born in the Sargasso Sea, float across the pacific to Europe and N Africa, pass through several different stages, then at about age 16 they swim back to the Sargasso Sea, where the females produce 1000’s of baby eels, then die. Presumably the males die after fathering 1000’s of baby eels as well.

How did all that evolve?

Perhaps the open ocean is safer for eggs and hatchlings than near-coast waters, so there was a successful competitive advantage further and further from the coast until eventually they got to the place furthest from a coast.

Seems a possibility.

I wondered if it might be something to do with continental drift, but perhaps the time-scales are wrong for that.

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Date: 29/01/2023 11:37:36
From: dv
ID: 1987887
Subject: re: European Eels

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Also from NS.

They are born in the Sargasso Sea, float across the pacific to Europe and N Africa, pass through several different stages, then at about age 16 they swim back to the Sargasso Sea, where the females produce 1000’s of baby eels, then die. Presumably the males die after fathering 1000’s of baby eels as well.

How did all that evolve?

Perhaps the open ocean is safer for eggs and hatchlings than near-coast waters, so there was a successful competitive advantage further and further from the coast until eventually they got to the place furthest from a coast.

Seems a possibility.

I wondered if it might be something to do with continental drift, but perhaps the time-scales are wrong for that.

Yes

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Date: 29/01/2023 13:02:20
From: party_pants
ID: 1987922
Subject: re: European Eels

float across the Atlantic perhaps?

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Date: 29/01/2023 13:43:36
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1987952
Subject: re: European Eels

party_pants said:


float across the Atlantic perhaps?

oops.

Floating across the Pacific to arrive at Europe would indeed have been a remarkable trick.

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Date: 29/01/2023 13:44:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1987955
Subject: re: European Eels

The Rev Dodgson said:


party_pants said:

float across the Atlantic perhaps?

oops.

Floating across the Pacific to arrive at Europe would indeed have been a remarkable trick.

Might have had to take the scenic route?

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Date: 29/01/2023 13:46:04
From: party_pants
ID: 1987958
Subject: re: European Eels

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

float across the Atlantic perhaps?

oops.

Floating across the Pacific to arrive at Europe would indeed have been a remarkable trick.

Might have had to take the scenic route?

i dunno. I din’t think the Panama Canal or Cape Horn are very scenic.

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Date: 29/01/2023 15:07:33
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1987999
Subject: re: European Eels

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Also from NS.

They are born in the Sargasso Sea, float across the pacific to Europe and N Africa, pass through several different stages, then at about age 16 they swim back to the Sargasso Sea, where the females produce 1000’s of baby eels, then die. Presumably the males die after fathering 1000’s of baby eels as well.

How did all that evolve?

Perhaps the open ocean is safer for eggs and hatchlings than near-coast waters, so there was a successful competitive advantage further and further from the coast until eventually they got to the place furthest from a coast.

Seems a possibility.

I wondered if it might be something to do with continental drift, but perhaps the time-scales are wrong for that.

A very good possibility as the ancestor of the European and American eels date back to 83 million years when America and Europe were much closer together and the Sargasso Sea was between. The original eels inhabited saltwater but became a mixture of fresh and saltwater nearly 50 million years ago, so migration from the Sargasso Sea to the European and American rivers is a realistic possibility.

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Date: 30/01/2023 09:19:57
From: Woodie
ID: 1988204
Subject: re: European Eels

Perhaps they went by hovercraft.

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