https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU
Rowan Atkinson on free speech
The forerunner of the Defend Free Speech campaign was called “Reform Section 5”. This speech by Rowan Atkinson at the launch event in Parliament in 2012 should be heard by every politician, journalist and campaigner before they start calling for laws to silence those they regard as ‘extremists’.
JudgeMental said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU
Rowan Atkinson on free speech
The forerunner of the Defend Free Speech campaign was called “Reform Section 5”. This speech by Rowan Atkinson at the launch event in Parliament in 2012 should be heard by every politician, journalist and campaigner before they start calling for laws to silence those they regard as ‘extremists’.
What’s the précis¿
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU
Rowan Atkinson on free speech
The forerunner of the Defend Free Speech campaign was called “Reform Section 5”. This speech by Rowan Atkinson at the launch event in Parliament in 2012 should be heard by every politician, journalist and campaigner before they start calling for laws to silence those they regard as ‘extremists’.
What’s the précis¿
the road to free speech is more free speech and proper dialogue rather then censoring what you don’t like.
JudgeMental said:
SCIENCE said:JudgeMental said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU
Rowan Atkinson on free speech
The forerunner of the Defend Free Speech campaign was called “Reform Section 5”. This speech by Rowan Atkinson at the launch event in Parliament in 2012 should be heard by every politician, journalist and campaigner before they start calling for laws to silence those they regard as ‘extremists’.
What’s the précis¿
the road to free speech is more free speech and proper dialogue rather then censoring what you don’t like.
I’ve emailed CB88.
JudgeMental said:
SCIENCE said:JudgeMental said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU
Rowan Atkinson on free speech
The forerunner of the Defend Free Speech campaign was called “Reform Section 5”. This speech by Rowan Atkinson at the launch event in Parliament in 2012 should be heard by every politician, journalist and campaigner before they start calling for laws to silence those they regard as ‘extremists’.
What’s the précis¿
the road to free speech is more free speech and proper dialogue rather then censoring what you don’t like.
does he say anything about platforming speakers
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:
SCIENCE said:What’s the précis¿
the road to free speech is more free speech and proper dialogue rather then censoring what you don’t like.
does he say anything about platforming speakers
Do you want me to rewatch the video for you and I’ll hook up my eyes to the internet and you can watch it thus. or you could just watch the 9min video in the first person.
shoosh you
Arts said:
shoosh you
are you censoring me interrobang
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
shoosh you
are you censoring me interrobang
we really need a picture of that.. or the forum software to use them.. it could be used a lot here
how about the transcript then after all we’ve done for yous all that must be the least
watched that few times quite a way back, and now again
of course rowan is a professional jester, and clearly has half a brain
but give stupid license for insult, any insult, that’s often not funny, not fun, good for nobody
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
shoosh you
are you censoring me interrobang
we really need a picture of that.. or the forum software to use them.. it could be used a lot here
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transition said:
watched that few times quite a way back, and now againof course rowan is a professional jester, and clearly has half a brain
but give stupid license for insult, any insult, that’s often not funny, not fun, good for nobody
It must never be ignored that free speech is not free of consequences.
Spiny Norman said:
transition said:
watched that few times quite a way back, and now againof course rowan is a professional jester, and clearly has half a brain
but give stupid license for insult, any insult, that’s often not funny, not fun, good for nobody
It must never be ignored that free speech is not free of consequences.
of course, but being arrested for calling a police horse gay is a tad extreme. IMO.
JudgeMental said:
Spiny Norman said:
transition said:
watched that few times quite a way back, and now againof course rowan is a professional jester, and clearly has half a brain
but give stupid license for insult, any insult, that’s often not funny, not fun, good for nobody
It must never be ignored that free speech is not free of consequences.
of course, but being arrested for calling a police horse gay is a tad extreme. IMO.
I totally agree.
Like a few years ago in this part of the world, a chap was also arrested for standing next to an LNP member whilst wearing a t-shirt that stated, I’m with stupid.
Spiny Norman said:
JudgeMental said:
Spiny Norman said:It must never be ignored that free speech is not free of consequences.
of course, but being arrested for calling a police horse gay is a tad extreme. IMO.
I totally agree.
Like a few years ago in this part of the world, a chap was also arrested for standing next to an LNP member whilst wearing a t-shirt that stated, I’m with stupid.
Certainly there are many examples of unreasonable restriction, but the question of exactly where our right to restricted speech should stop is a difficult one.
I doubt that arguing that speech should be entirely free is very helpful.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Spiny Norman said:
JudgeMental said:of course, but being arrested for calling a police horse gay is a tad extreme. IMO.
I totally agree.
Like a few years ago in this part of the world, a chap was also arrested for standing next to an LNP member whilst wearing a t-shirt that stated, I’m with stupid.
Certainly there are many examples of unreasonable restriction, but the question of exactly where our right to restricted speech should stop is a difficult one.
I doubt that arguing that speech should be entirely free is very helpful.
be a disorder of some sort, in an adult, alright of babbling infants
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Spiny Norman said:I totally agree.
Like a few years ago in this part of the world, a chap was also arrested for standing next to an LNP member whilst wearing a t-shirt that stated, I’m with stupid.
Certainly there are many examples of unreasonable restriction, but the question of exactly where our right to restricted speech should stop is a difficult one.
I doubt that arguing that speech should be entirely free is very helpful.
be a disorder of some sort, in an adult, alright of babbling infants
I’m happy for infants to have free speech.
Up to age 2 anyway.
by extension is there to be complete freedom of action
SCIENCE said:
by extension is there to be complete freedom of action
Absolutely.
Except for those actions that are forbidden of course.
It’s important to distinguish between people airing unpopular views and people deliberately spreading lies and disinformation.
For example, there are countries whose governments tightly control all media and use it to spread misleading propaganda while suppressing free speech and truthful news etc.
I have nothing at all against those propaganda outlets being blocked or banned from spreading their rubbish beyond their own borders.
…Also, as I think I’ve pointed out before, Atkinson’s argument against people saying “I am only intolerant of intolerance” makes no sense, since he’s clearly intolerant of that view because he regards it as intolerant.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
by extension is there to be complete freedom of action
Absolutely.
Except for those actions that are forbidden of course.
we mean if speech has consequences and consequential actions are limited (by more than consequences, for example by legal penalty) to mitigate some of their consequences then clearly it follows that everyone should just convert other actions to speech to get away with whatever they want
I was quite offended by that speech.
And I’ll tell you what if I had a Twitter account or a Facebook account I’d be straight there and be telling all my followers just how just outraged I felt and post a list of help lines for those who felt the same.
PeterT Ministries Help Line for example.
It’s not right.