https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acclimatisation_society

I has been reading about historical bird species introduction to Australia, thought it an interesting subject

what insights did one derive from it

transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acclimatisation_society

I has been reading about historical bird species introduction to Australia, thought it an interesting subject

They should have been hung drawn and quartered, those dimwits.

roughbarked said:

transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acclimatisation_society

I has been reading about historical bird species introduction to Australia, thought it an interesting subject

They should have been hung drawn and quartered, those dimwits.

like the fools who introduced Homo sapiens to previously unclaimed land 250 ah sorry we mean 50000 years ago

SCIENCE said:

what insights did one derive from it

Well, on the ABC justin page there is a High school pop quiz.

Try answering question 2 after you have read the acclimatisation Wiki.

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acclimatisation_society

I has been reading about historical bird species introduction to Australia, thought it an interesting subject

They should have been hung drawn and quartered, those dimwits.

like the fools who introduced Homo sapiens to previously unclaimed land 250 ah sorry we mean 50000 years ago

Make up your mind. Which is it?

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

what insights did one derive from it

Well, on the ABC justin page there is a High school pop quiz.

Try answering question 2 after you have read the acclimatisation Wiki.

are they logic slash reasoning questions or just recall slash memorisation slash rote learn questions

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

They should have been hung drawn and quartered, those dimwits.

like the fools who introduced Homo sapiens to previously unclaimed land 250 ah sorry we mean 50000 years ago

Make up your mind. Which is it?

both

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

what insights did one derive from it

Well, on the ABC justin page there is a High school pop quiz.

Try answering question 2 after you have read the acclimatisation Wiki.

are they logic slash reasoning questions or just recall slash memorisation slash rote learn questions

Mostly logical deduction by people who have listened or can read.

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

like the fools who introduced Homo sapiens to previously unclaimed land 250 ah sorry we mean 50000 years ago

Make up your mind. Which is it?

both

So Baiame is the idiot who introduced the first inhabitants?

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Make up your mind. Which is it?

both

So Baiame is the idiot who introduced the first inhabitants?

did other animals inhabit before

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

both

So Baiame is the idiot who introduced the first inhabitants?

did other animals inhabit before

? what has that to do with the introduction of homo’s?

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

So Baiame is the idiot who introduced the first inhabitants?

did other animals inhabit before

? what has that to do with the introduction of homo’s?

they cause extinctions

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

what insights did one derive from it

Well, on the ABC justin page there is a High school pop quiz.

Try answering question 2 after you have read the acclimatisation Wiki.

are they logic slash reasoning questions or just recall slash memorisation slash rote learn questions

lock in B.

8/8

JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Well, on the ABC justin page there is a High school pop quiz.

Try answering question 2 after you have read the acclimatisation Wiki.

are they logic slash reasoning questions or just recall slash memorisation slash rote learn questions

lock in B.

8/8

I don’t recall any of that being taught by rote.

transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acclimatisation_society

I has been reading about historical bird species introduction to Australia, thought it an interesting subject

Yeah, I hadn’t heard of these acclimatisation societies, and I’m in agreeance that it is interesting.

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

are they logic slash reasoning questions or just recall slash memorisation slash rote learn questions

lock in B.

8/8

I don’t recall any of that being taught by rote.

I read through but didn’t bother with answers. Pretty much all of the questions required you to have been taught the information. Which sort of means rote learning. Not many allowed you to work out the answer if you had never been taught it.

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acclimatisation_society

I has been reading about historical bird species introduction to Australia, thought it an interesting subject

Yeah, I hadn’t heard of these acclimatisation societies, and I’m in agreeance that it is interesting.

Bloody von Mueller. Blackberries. But you also have to allow for the state of knowledge at the time.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

lock in B.

8/8

I don’t recall any of that being taught by rote.

I read through but didn’t bother with answers. Pretty much all of the questions required you to have been taught the information. Which sort of means rote learning. Not many allowed you to work out the answer if you had never been taught it.

Well we’ shall have to agree to disagree then because I wasn’t taught any of it. I learned it by living life.

buffy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acclimatisation_society

I has been reading about historical bird species introduction to Australia, thought it an interesting subject

Yeah, I hadn’t heard of these acclimatisation societies, and I’m in agreeance that it is interesting.

Bloody von Mueller. Blackberries. But you also have to allow for the state of knowledge at the time.

You always have to allow for that, even today.

buffy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acclimatisation_society

I has been reading about historical bird species introduction to Australia, thought it an interesting subject

Yeah, I hadn’t heard of these acclimatisation societies, and I’m in agreeance that it is interesting.

Bloody von Mueller. Blackberries. But you also have to allow for the state of knowledge at the time.

It used to be the thing to do. It is still a popular attitude of most home gardeners.

Last I heard about introduced species in Australia.

Number of vertebrate species gained = number of vertebrate species lost.

Not counting megafauna extinction by aboriginals of course.

mollwollfumble said:

Last I heard about introduced species in Australia.

Number of vertebrate species gained = number of vertebrate species lost.

Not counting megafauna extinction by aboriginals of course.

Hang on. Who said the megafauna were extinguished by the aborigine?

mollwollfumble said:

Last I heard about introduced species in Australia.

Number of vertebrate species gained = number of vertebrate species lost.

Not counting megafauna extinction by aboriginals of course.

Basic respect mollwollfumble means you capitalise Aboriginal.

Like we do
A = Australian A = Aboriginal Ireland Eire = Ireland

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Last I heard about introduced species in Australia.

Number of vertebrate species gained = number of vertebrate species lost.

Not counting megafauna extinction by aboriginals of course.

Hang on. Who said the megafauna were extinguished by the aborigine?

Lots of people say that.

I doubt if anyone knows for sure.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Last I heard about introduced species in Australia.

Number of vertebrate species gained = number of vertebrate species lost.

Not counting megafauna extinction by aboriginals of course.

Hang on. Who said the megafauna were extinguished by the aborigine?

Lots of people say that.

I doubt if anyone knows for sure.

Coincidental. Unless of course they were here for twice as long as they are presumed to have been here for.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Hang on. Who said the megafauna were extinguished by the aborigine?

Lots of people say that.

I doubt if anyone knows for sure.

Coincidental. Unless of course they were here for twice as long as they are presumed to have been here for.

I don’t know why people want to politicise this, but this is what the ABC has to say about it:

Megafauna extinction in Australia.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Lots of people say that.

I doubt if anyone knows for sure.

Coincidental. Unless of course they were here for twice as long as they are presumed to have been here for.

I don’t know why people want to politicise this, but this is what the ABC has to say about it:

Megafauna extinction in Australia.

I’m unsure of the politics you mention but indeed there are many causations that could have seen the first inhabitants to kill off the last half a dozen or more but not to actually have xaused their demise.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Coincidental. Unless of course they were here for twice as long as they are presumed to have been here for.

I don’t know why people want to politicise this, but this is what the ABC has to say about it:

Megafauna extinction in Australia.

I’m unsure of the politics you mention but indeed there are many causations that could have seen the first inhabitants to kill off the last half a dozen or more but not to actually have x caused their demise.

There is evidence that some megafauna were hunted and killed but there isn’t really any evidence that this caused their demise.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t know why people want to politicise this, but this is what the ABC has to say about it:

Megafauna extinction in Australia.

I’m unsure of the politics you mention but indeed there are many causations that could have seen the first inhabitants to kill off the last half a dozen or more but not to actually have x caused their demise.

There is evidence that some megafauna were hunted and killed but there isn’t really any evidence that this caused their demise.

we mean sure there’s evidence that people die with SARACAIDS-CoV in their bodies but nobody can prove that they died of COVID-19 or even of anything

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Last I heard about introduced species in Australia.

Number of vertebrate species gained = number of vertebrate species lost.

Not counting megafauna extinction by aboriginals of course.

Hang on. Who said the megafauna were extinguished by the aborigine?

Lots of people say that.

I doubt if anyone knows for sure.

I went to an Echidnas Course once where they talked about them being as big as cars at one point in the evolution. It was some presenting their thesis. I wonder if they were going down a rabbit hole.

The extinction of megafauna due to Indigenous Australians is something that I have read about time to time, but I have no idea as to it’s authenticity.

ms spock said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Hang on. Who said the megafauna were extinguished by the aborigine?

Lots of people say that.

I doubt if anyone knows for sure.

I went to an Echidnas Course once where they talked about them being as big as cars at one point in the evolution. It was some presenting their thesis. I wonder if they were going down a rabbit hole.

The extinction of megafauna due to Indigenous Australians is something that I have read about time to time, but I have no idea as to it’s authenticity.

The TATE article on the subject is quite detailed (although unbalanced, some say):
Australian Megafauna

The Rev Dodgson said:

ms spock said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Lots of people say that.

I doubt if anyone knows for sure.

I went to an Echidnas Course once where they talked about them being as big as cars at one point in the evolution. It was some presenting their thesis. I wonder if they were going down a rabbit hole.

The extinction of megafauna due to Indigenous Australians is something that I have read about time to time, but I have no idea as to it’s authenticity.

The TATE article on the subject is quite detailed (although unbalanced, some say):
Australian Megafauna

Apparently, the who said, may well have been the venerable Tim Flannery.

The Rev Dodgson said:

ms spock said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Lots of people say that.

I doubt if anyone knows for sure.

I went to an Echidnas Course once where they talked about them being as big as cars at one point in the evolution. It was some presenting their thesis. I wonder if they were going down a rabbit hole.

The extinction of megafauna due to Indigenous Australians is something that I have read about time to time, but I have no idea as to it’s authenticity.

The TATE article on the subject is quite detailed (although unbalanced, some say):
Australian Megafauna

Interesting! So fascinating!

Many modern researchers, including Tim Flannery, think that with the arrival of early Aboriginal Australians (around 70,000~65,000 years ago), hunting and the use of fire to manage their environment may have contributed to the extinction of the megafauna. Increased aridity during peak glaciation (about 18,000 years ago) may have also contributed, but most of the megafauna were already extinct by this time. Others, including Steve Wroe, note that records in the Australian Pleistocene are rare, and there is not enough data to definitively determine the time of extinction of many of the species, with many of the species having no confirmed record within the last 100,000 years. They suggest that many of the extinctions had been staggered over the course of the late Middle Pleistocene and early Late Pleistocene, prior to human arrival, due to climatic stress.

And next week someone might discover something that adds to the narrative. Learning more is just amazing!

Lets face it, megafauna can provide a lot of meat for hungry people, let alone fur-coats and the need to protect themselves from a large predator. So why wouldn’t they hunt them as seems to be the case where megafauna and humans came together?

In Australia, first human settlement was around 65 thousand years ago and most megafauna had gone by 40 thousand years ago. Surely it would not be surprising that small groups of people in a country as large as Australia would take a considerable amount of time to fully colonise and seriously impact millions of large animals, therefore around 25 thousand years does not seem unreasonable to me.

However, hunters rarely kill the last animal, it is more often when their numbers are reduced then severe climatic events cause the conditions for the actual extinction. Again, during a drought, an entire country the size of Australia is not likely to be parched everywhere, so successive disasters (including Aboriginal firestick burning) over a period, and when the animals are forced to retreat to limited regions to be easily found and slaughtered. I personally think the extinction of the megafauna in Australia would still have taken hundreds if not thousands of years, but finally it would be caused by an extremely fickle climate combined with a determined super-predator making their extinction the only logical outcome.