China allegedly plans to deploy a swarm of satellites in low Earth orbit to compete with Elon Musk’s Starlink and offer internet services, an alternative to people worldwide.

The plan to dispatch almost 13,000 satellites to throttle Starlink exposure comes under the mysterious project, code name “GW,” according to People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) space engineering researchers.

Though SpaceX anticipates having 12,000 satellites in orbit by 2027 and a final total of 40,000 orbiting devices, this attempt would overwhelm Starlink’s present count of about 3,500 satellites.

China feels compelled to move so swiftly on this project because it wants to stop Starlink from monopolizing the low-Earth orbit space and barring other businesses or nations from using it.

Researchers want to ensure that China “has a place in low orbit and prevent the Starlink constellation from excessively pre-empting low-orbit resources.”

And “gain opportunities and advantages at other orbital altitudes, and even suppress Starlink.”

The China Satellite Network Group Co has also stated that they hope to use their own constellations to track and maybe deactivate Starlink satellites, noted the SCMP report.

The researchers in the group are concerned about the maneuverability of Starlink satellites because they believe Musk’s satellites could be used to target and destroy other spacecraft.

Therefore, Chinese researchers aspire to be able to match that potential by introducing their own fleet of satellites in the near space.

China also wants to be able to identify each Starlink satellite and be aware of its movements as worries about the potential military uses of the Starlink satellite constellations continue to grow, particularly in light of the ongoing conflict in Ukraine.

The academics from the Space Engineering University have advised China to launch an international “anti-Starlink” coalition to support this goal. This coalition might demand that SpaceX publicly disclose the precise positions of its satellites.

However, since this information is still unavailable, China’s only chance of monitoring Starlink may be to launch its satellite power into orbit.

The astronomers will no doubt be thrilled about this.

Spiny Norman said:

The astronomers will no doubt be thrilled about this.

It will be trustworthy though no stealing of data or phoning home with information from Western Pig Dog governments

This is the beauty of capitalism and the free market, competition driving prices lower.
China is communist only in name now leaving only two communist regimes left in the world, North Korea and Victoria.

Peak Warming Man said:

This is the beauty of capitalism and the free market, competition driving prices lower.
China is communist only in name now leaving only two communist regimes left in the world, North Korea and Victoria.

Yes China has a communist capitalist slave labour economy

Ian said:

China allegedly plans to deploy a swarm of satellites in low Earth orbit to compete with Elon Musk’s Starlink and offer internet services, an alternative to people worldwide.

The plan to dispatch almost 13,000 satellites to throttle Starlink exposure comes under the mysterious project, code name “GW,” according to People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) space engineering researchers.

Though SpaceX anticipates having 12,000 satellites in orbit by 2027 and a final total of 40,000 orbiting devices, this attempt would overwhelm Starlink’s present count of about 3,500 satellites.

China feels compelled to move so swiftly on this project because it wants to stop Starlink from monopolizing the low-Earth orbit space and barring other businesses or nations from using it.

Researchers want to ensure that China “has a place in low orbit and prevent the Starlink constellation from excessively pre-empting low-orbit resources.”

And “gain opportunities and advantages at other orbital altitudes, and even suppress Starlink.”

The China Satellite Network Group Co has also stated that they hope to use their own constellations to track and maybe deactivate Starlink satellites, noted the SCMP report.

The researchers in the group are concerned about the maneuverability of Starlink satellites because they believe Musk’s satellites could be used to target and destroy other spacecraft.

Therefore, Chinese researchers aspire to be able to match that potential by introducing their own fleet of satellites in the near space.

China also wants to be able to identify each Starlink satellite and be aware of its movements as worries about the potential military uses of the Starlink satellite constellations continue to grow, particularly in light of the ongoing conflict in Ukraine.

The academics from the Space Engineering University have advised China to launch an international “anti-Starlink” coalition to support this goal. This coalition might demand that SpaceX publicly disclose the precise positions of its satellites.

However, since this information is still unavailable, China’s only chance of monitoring Starlink may be to launch its satellite power into orbit.

I’m beginning to think the World needs a UN space treaty of some kind to limit countries placing objects in orbit.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Ian said:

China allegedly plans to deploy a swarm of satellites in low Earth orbit to compete with Elon Musk’s Starlink and offer internet services, an alternative to people worldwide.

The plan to dispatch almost 13,000 satellites to throttle Starlink exposure comes under the mysterious project, code name “GW,” according to People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) space engineering researchers.

Though SpaceX anticipates having 12,000 satellites in orbit by 2027 and a final total of 40,000 orbiting devices, this attempt would overwhelm Starlink’s present count of about 3,500 satellites.

China feels compelled to move so swiftly on this project because it wants to stop Starlink from monopolizing the low-Earth orbit space and barring other businesses or nations from using it.

Researchers want to ensure that China “has a place in low orbit and prevent the Starlink constellation from excessively pre-empting low-orbit resources.”

And “gain opportunities and advantages at other orbital altitudes, and even suppress Starlink.”

The China Satellite Network Group Co has also stated that they hope to use their own constellations to track and maybe deactivate Starlink satellites, noted the SCMP report.

The researchers in the group are concerned about the maneuverability of Starlink satellites because they believe Musk’s satellites could be used to target and destroy other spacecraft.

Therefore, Chinese researchers aspire to be able to match that potential by introducing their own fleet of satellites in the near space.

China also wants to be able to identify each Starlink satellite and be aware of its movements as worries about the potential military uses of the Starlink satellite constellations continue to grow, particularly in light of the ongoing conflict in Ukraine.

The academics from the Space Engineering University have advised China to launch an international “anti-Starlink” coalition to support this goal. This coalition might demand that SpaceX publicly disclose the precise positions of its satellites.

However, since this information is still unavailable, China’s only chance of monitoring Starlink may be to launch its satellite power into orbit.

I’m beginning to think the World needs a UN space treaty of some kind to limit countries placing objects in orbit.

FFS, when will they ever learn?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Ian said:

China allegedly plans to deploy a swarm of satellites in low Earth orbit to compete with Elon Musk’s Starlink and offer internet services, an alternative to people worldwide.

The plan to dispatch almost 13,000 satellites to throttle Starlink exposure comes under the mysterious project, code name “GW,” according to People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) space engineering researchers.

Though SpaceX anticipates having 12,000 satellites in orbit by 2027 and a final total of 40,000 orbiting devices, this attempt would overwhelm Starlink’s present count of about 3,500 satellites.

China feels compelled to move so swiftly on this project because it wants to stop Starlink from monopolizing the low-Earth orbit space and barring other businesses or nations from using it.

Researchers want to ensure that China “has a place in low orbit and prevent the Starlink constellation from excessively pre-empting low-orbit resources.”

And “gain opportunities and advantages at other orbital altitudes, and even suppress Starlink.”

The China Satellite Network Group Co has also stated that they hope to use their own constellations to track and maybe deactivate Starlink satellites, noted the SCMP report.

The researchers in the group are concerned about the maneuverability of Starlink satellites because they believe Musk’s satellites could be used to target and destroy other spacecraft.

Therefore, Chinese researchers aspire to be able to match that potential by introducing their own fleet of satellites in the near space.

China also wants to be able to identify each Starlink satellite and be aware of its movements as worries about the potential military uses of the Starlink satellite constellations continue to grow, particularly in light of the ongoing conflict in Ukraine.

The academics from the Space Engineering University have advised China to launch an international “anti-Starlink” coalition to support this goal. This coalition might demand that SpaceX publicly disclose the precise positions of its satellites.

However, since this information is still unavailable, China’s only chance of monitoring Starlink may be to launch its satellite power into orbit.

I’m beginning to think the World needs a UN space treaty of some kind to limit countries placing objects in orbit.

It does make you wonder if not already there whose going to sneak and armed satellite up there

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

The Kessler syndrome (also called the Kessler effect, collisional cascading, or ablation cascade), proposed by NASA scientist Donald J. Kessler in 1978, is a scenario in which the density of objects in low Earth orbit (LEO) due to space pollution is high enough that collisions between objects could cause a cascade in which each collision generates space debris that increases the likelihood of further collisions. 

In 2009 Kessler wrote that modeling results had concluded that the debris environment was already unstable, “such that any attempt to achieve a growth-free small debris environment by eliminating sources of past debris will likely fail because fragments from future collisions will be generated faster than atmospheric drag will remove them”. 

One implication is that the distribution of debris in orbit could render space activities and the use of satellites in specific orbital ranges difficult for many generations.

Ian said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

The Kessler syndrome (also called the Kessler effect, collisional cascading, or ablation cascade), proposed by NASA scientist Donald J. Kessler in 1978, is a scenario in which the density of objects in low Earth orbit (LEO) due to space pollution is high enough that collisions between objects could cause a cascade in which each collision generates space debris that increases the likelihood of further collisions. 

In 2009 Kessler wrote that modeling results had concluded that the debris environment was already unstable, “such that any attempt to achieve a growth-free small debris environment by eliminating sources of past debris will likely fail because fragments from future collisions will be generated faster than atmospheric drag will remove them”. 

One implication is that the distribution of debris in orbit could render space activities and the use of satellites in specific orbital ranges difficult for many generations.

Someone could do it just for spite

Tau.Neutrino said:

Ian said:

China allegedly plans to deploy a swarm of satellites in low Earth orbit to compete with Elon Musk’s Starlink and offer internet services, an alternative to people worldwide.

The plan to dispatch almost 13,000 satellites to throttle Starlink exposure comes under the mysterious project, code name “GW,” according to People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) space engineering researchers.

Though SpaceX anticipates having 12,000 satellites in orbit by 2027 and a final total of 40,000 orbiting devices, this attempt would overwhelm Starlink’s present count of about 3,500 satellites.

China feels compelled to move so swiftly on this project because it wants to stop Starlink from monopolizing the low-Earth orbit space and barring other businesses or nations from using it.

Researchers want to ensure that China “has a place in low orbit and prevent the Starlink constellation from excessively pre-empting low-orbit resources.”

And “gain opportunities and advantages at other orbital altitudes, and even suppress Starlink.”

The China Satellite Network Group Co has also stated that they hope to use their own constellations to track and maybe deactivate Starlink satellites, noted the SCMP report.

The researchers in the group are concerned about the maneuverability of Starlink satellites because they believe Musk’s satellites could be used to target and destroy other spacecraft.

Therefore, Chinese researchers aspire to be able to match that potential by introducing their own fleet of satellites in the near space.

China also wants to be able to identify each Starlink satellite and be aware of its movements as worries about the potential military uses of the Starlink satellite constellations continue to grow, particularly in light of the ongoing conflict in Ukraine.

The academics from the Space Engineering University have advised China to launch an international “anti-Starlink” coalition to support this goal. This coalition might demand that SpaceX publicly disclose the precise positions of its satellites.

However, since this information is still unavailable, China’s only chance of monitoring Starlink may be to launch its satellite power into orbit.

I’m beginning to think the World needs a UN space treaty of some kind to limit countries placing objects in orbit.

exactly, cuntries should be limited, only multinational corporations are allowed to pollute orbital allocations

Cymek said:

Ian said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

The Kessler syndrome (also called the Kessler effect, collisional cascading, or ablation cascade), proposed by NASA scientist Donald J. Kessler in 1978, is a scenario in which the density of objects in low Earth orbit (LEO) due to space pollution is high enough that collisions between objects could cause a cascade in which each collision generates space debris that increases the likelihood of further collisions. 

In 2009 Kessler wrote that modeling results had concluded that the debris environment was already unstable, “such that any attempt to achieve a growth-free small debris environment by eliminating sources of past debris will likely fail because fragments from future collisions will be generated faster than atmospheric drag will remove them”. 

One implication is that the distribution of debris in orbit could render space activities and the use of satellites in specific orbital ranges difficult for many generations.

Someone could do it just for spite

They’ll all be up there tossing their stubbies out the portholes soon.

“The plan to dispatch almost 13,000 satellites to throttle Starlink exposure comes under the mysterious project, code name “GW,” according to People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) space engineering researchers.”

I reckon that you wouldn’t find a bookie who’d give odds on ‘GW’ not standing for ‘Great Wall’.

That seems to be the only permitted name for just about any project/policy/product in China these days.

captain_spalding said:

“The plan to dispatch almost 13,000 satellites to throttle Starlink exposure comes under the mysterious project, code name “GW,” according to People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) space engineering researchers.”

I reckon that you wouldn’t find a bookie who’d give odds on ‘GW’ not standing for ‘Great Wall’.

That seems to be the only permitted name for just about any project/policy/product in China these days.

The PLA, surely they taketh the piss.

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

“The plan to dispatch almost 13,000 satellites to throttle Starlink exposure comes under the mysterious project, code name “GW,” according to People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) space engineering researchers.”

I reckon that you wouldn’t find a bookie who’d give odds on ‘GW’ not standing for ‘Great Wall’.

That seems to be the only permitted name for just about any project/policy/product in China these days.

The PLA, surely they taketh the piss.

It’s what it stands for: Pissmyself Laughing Army

poly lactic acid

it is time for high altitude balloons, airships, long loitering planes or a hybrid system to provide such services from stratosphere altitudes rather than from space. Each system localised to keep station over its own country.

Would not be with some sense of getting the ironing board out if Musk’s trip to Mars wipes itself out on one or more of his starlink objects?

I shall conquer America with my balloon army

Oh Fuck CHINA Are Developing Target-Finding AI And Will

skewer them all

SCIENCE said:

Oh Fuck CHINA Are Developing Target-Finding AI And Will

skewer them all

There’s an off the shelve app for that.

:)