Because I can!

∅

ChrispenEvan said:

Because I can!

Wise ape

Tau.Neutrino said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Because I can!

Wise ape

Can we get him made head of the IMF?

Nothing remotely bigoted about J.K.Rowling.

ChrispenEvan said:

COLORADO SPRINGS, CO—Following a series of transphobic comments by the Harry Potter author, the nation’s top evangelical leaders announced Monday that J.K. Rowling had finally become bigoted enough to make it okay for kids to read about witchcraft. “While I always appreciated Ms. Rowling making the greedy banker goblins a thinly veiled stand-in for the Jews, it is only with her assertions that trans women aren’t women that I’ve finally come around to allowing children to read her books,” said evangelist and Focus on the Family president Jim Daly, explaining that while he still did not approve of the satanic imagery embedded throughout the Harry Potter series, Rowling’s consistent dehumanization of people who are different from her had prompted him to reconsider. “I understand that her tacitly justifying slavery though the depictions of house elves was meant as an olive branch, but now, with her steadfast commitment to demonizing trans people, she has finally won us over. And look, I’m not thrilled about the idea of my children potentially learning spells, but I’m willing to overlook that considering one of the only Asian characters in the entire franchise is named Cho Chang.” At press time, Harry Potter received a full-throated endorsement from evangelicals for introducing an entirely new set of bigoted slurs to explain half-magic and non-magic people.

Boris is trying to annoy me so I’d better boost my IGNORE shield.

Bubblecar said:

Nothing remotely bigoted about J.K.Rowling.

she’s anti-independence.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Nothing remotely bigoted about J.K.Rowling.

she’s anti-independence.

How does that make her “bigoted”? Most Scots are anti-independence.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Nothing remotely bigoted about J.K.Rowling.

she’s anti-independence.

How does that make her “bigoted”? Most Scots are anti-independence.

she’s not a scot. She’s just living the high life in Scotland.

‘You’re burning the wrong witch’: LGBTQ writer apologizes to JK Rowling after spending three months researching the Harry Potter author but finding NO evidence she is transphobic

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11461329/Writer-apologizes-JK-Rowling-finding-NO-evidence-transphobic.html

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

she’s anti-independence.

How does that make her “bigoted”? Most Scots are anti-independence.

she’s not a scot. She’s just living the high life in Scotland.

I see, we don’t like her because she’s successful. Sorry, I forgot :)

Bubblecar said:

‘You’re burning the wrong witch’: LGBTQ writer apologizes to JK Rowling after spending three months researching the Harry Potter author but finding NO evidence she is transphobic

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11461329/Writer-apologizes-JK-Rowling-finding-NO-evidence-transphobic.html

No mention of her weight or ducks.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

How does that make her “bigoted”? Most Scots are anti-independence.

she’s not a scot. She’s just living the high life in Scotland.

I see, we don’t like her because she’s successful. Sorry, I forgot :)

No, we don’t like her because she not Scottish. Or something.

ChrispenEvan said:

Only if you’re Adam Bandt.

Bubblecar said:

‘You’re burning the wrong witch’: LGBTQ writer apologizes to JK Rowling after spending three months researching the Harry Potter author but finding NO evidence she is transphobic

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11461329/Writer-apologizes-JK-Rowling-finding-NO-evidence-transphobic.html

I’m not sure why people expect famous people to be either less of a dick or more knowledgeable on subjects than any other person.
Being famous doesn’t mean your smart, wise or intelligent.

Tamb said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Only if you’re Adam Bandt.

really? so all the floods and fires don’t affect the cost of living?

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

‘You’re burning the wrong witch’: LGBTQ writer apologizes to JK Rowling after spending three months researching the Harry Potter author but finding NO evidence she is transphobic

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11461329/Writer-apologizes-JK-Rowling-finding-NO-evidence-transphobic.html

I’m not sure why people expect famous people to be either less of a dick or more knowledgeable on subjects than any other person.
Being famous doesn’t mean your smart, wise or intelligent.

Thinking that the opinions of people matter solely because they’re famous certainly doesn’t mean that you’re smart, wise or intelligent

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

‘You’re burning the wrong witch’: LGBTQ writer apologizes to JK Rowling after spending three months researching the Harry Potter author but finding NO evidence she is transphobic

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11461329/Writer-apologizes-JK-Rowling-finding-NO-evidence-transphobic.html

I’m not sure why people expect famous people to be either less of a dick or more knowledgeable on subjects than any other person.
Being famous doesn’t mean your smart, wise or intelligent.

or even why their opinions are listened to in the first place.

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

‘You’re burning the wrong witch’: LGBTQ writer apologizes to JK Rowling after spending three months researching the Harry Potter author but finding NO evidence she is transphobic

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11461329/Writer-apologizes-JK-Rowling-finding-NO-evidence-transphobic.html

I’m not sure why people expect famous people to be either less of a dick or more knowledgeable on subjects than any other person.
Being famous doesn’t mean your smart, wise or intelligent.

Thinking that the opinions of people matter solely because they’re famous certainly doesn’t mean that you’re smart, wise or intelligent

Indeed

ChrispenEvan said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

‘You’re burning the wrong witch’: LGBTQ writer apologizes to JK Rowling after spending three months researching the Harry Potter author but finding NO evidence she is transphobic

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11461329/Writer-apologizes-JK-Rowling-finding-NO-evidence-transphobic.html

I’m not sure why people expect famous people to be either less of a dick or more knowledgeable on subjects than any other person.
Being famous doesn’t mean your smart, wise or intelligent.

or even why their opinions are listened to in the first place.

Yes its strange, celebrities are also often fickle and bored so promote “new” things they have discovered and people flock to it.

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

I’m not sure why people expect famous people to be either less of a dick or more knowledgeable on subjects than any other person.
Being famous doesn’t mean your smart, wise or intelligent.

Thinking that the opinions of people matter solely because they’re famous certainly doesn’t mean that you’re smart, wise or intelligent

Indeed

confirmation bias, they say things I agree with so they must be smart because I’m smart.

ChrispenEvan said:

Tamb said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Only if you’re Adam Bandt.

really? so all the floods and fires don’t affect the cost of living?

They are the normal part of living.
Always been there but they get more coverage now & with a higher population more people are affected.

Cymek said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Cymek said:

I’m not sure why people expect famous people to be either less of a dick or more knowledgeable on subjects than any other person.
Being famous doesn’t mean your smart, wise or intelligent.

or even why their opinions are listened to in the first place.

Yes its strange, celebrities are also often fickle and bored so promote “new” things they have discovered and people flock to it.

it’s just human nature. Not strange at all IMHO.

Tamb said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Tamb said:

Only if you’re Adam Bandt.

really? so all the floods and fires don’t affect the cost of living?

They are the normal part of living.
Always been there but they get more coverage now & with a higher population more people are affected.

so you don’t believe in climate change?

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

ChrispenEvan said:

or even why their opinions are listened to in the first place.

Yes its strange, celebrities are also often fickle and bored so promote “new” things they have discovered and people flock to it.

it’s just human nature. Not strange at all IMHO.

To me it is, but I find celebrity worship or any worship really as strange

ChrispenEvan said:

Tamb said:

ChrispenEvan said:

really? so all the floods and fires don’t affect the cost of living?

They are the normal part of living.
Always been there but they get more coverage now & with a higher population more people are affected.

so you don’t believe in climate change?

Combination of both I imagine.
I imagine it will get to the point this century that entire areas of land might be abandoned as natural disasters and temperature changes make them unliveable

ChrispenEvan said:

Tamb said:

ChrispenEvan said:

really? so all the floods and fires don’t affect the cost of living?

They are the normal part of living.
Always been there but they get more coverage now & with a higher population more people are affected.

so you don’t believe in climate change?

Of course I do.

Cymek said:

Yes its strange, celebrities are also often fickle and bored so promote “new” things they have discovered and people flock to it.

Would it not be wonderful if…

…a ‘celebrity’ made an announcement about a particular issue similar to:

“Hi, they’re giving me this space/time on the media to tell you about this because i think it’s important, and they feel that you’ll pay attention to me because you’re a fan of mine, or just because i’m supposed to be famous.

And i do think it’s important. But, don’t just take my word for it, read up on it yourself, make your own opinion. Try this (quotes reference) or this (quote), and this (quote), and this (quote).

It REALLY IS important. But, it’s also important that you learn more about it, and that you think for yourself, and you do what YOU think is right.

Go to it, folks. Thanks, and goodbye for now.’

Cymek said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Tamb said:

They are the normal part of living.
Always been there but they get more coverage now & with a higher population more people are affected.

so you don’t believe in climate change?

Combination of both I imagine.
I imagine it will get to the point this century that entire areas of land might be abandoned as natural disasters and temperature changes make them unliveable

Big parts of Bangladesh would be favourite.

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

ChrispenEvan said:

so you don’t believe in climate change?

Combination of both I imagine.
I imagine it will get to the point this century that entire areas of land might be abandoned as natural disasters and temperature changes make them unliveable

Big parts of Bangladesh would be favourite.

I have seen Bangladesh. I would not class it as ‘liveable’ then, now, or in the future.

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

Combination of both I imagine.
I imagine it will get to the point this century that entire areas of land might be abandoned as natural disasters and temperature changes make them unliveable

Big parts of Bangladesh would be favourite.

I have seen Bangladesh. I would not class it as ‘liveable’ then, now, or in the future.

Just from the news you see these shanty type cities and wonder how can people live there, barely have anything on a good day.

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

Big parts of Bangladesh would be favourite.

I have seen Bangladesh. I would not class it as ‘liveable’ then, now, or in the future.

Just from the news you see these shanty type cities and wonder how can people live there, barely have anything on a good day.

A better word might be existable.

Cymek said:

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

Yes its strange, celebrities are also often fickle and bored so promote “new” things they have discovered and people flock to it.

it’s just human nature. Not strange at all IMHO.

To me it is, but I find celebrity worship or any worship really as strange

There must be prominent people you admire?

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

Big parts of Bangladesh would be favourite.

I have seen Bangladesh. I would not class it as ‘liveable’ then, now, or in the future.

Just from the news you see these shanty type cities and wonder how can people live there, barely have anything on a good day.

Was the norm in most places for most of our existence since the rise of settled agriculture.

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Just from the news you see these shanty type cities and wonder how can people live there, barely have anything on a good day.

I was in Dhaka, the capital, and a few jaunts to the Rajshahi and Rangpur regions.

I have to say that there are parts of the place that are staggeringly beautiful in a lush, green, sub-continental way. And the people are, in general, extremely friendly, being very much like Indians, but still distinctly different (it’s largely a Muslim country, but proclaimed as a secular state). They seem to have a different outlook and attitude to that of most Indians.

But, it’s very much a third-world country. Away from cities and larger towns, you’re right back into the pre-industrial era, just like that. I doubt that the countryside looks or functions any differently to how it did 600 years ago.

And the cities are dreadful. The urban poverty is utterly appalling. The crowding, noise, pollution are all off the scale. I remember Dhaka as being the place i was the most glad of all to leave, and that includes places where people shot at me.

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Just from the news you see these shanty type cities and wonder how can people live there, barely have anything on a good day.

I was in Dhaka, the capital, and a few jaunts to the Rajshahi and Rangpur regions.

I have to say that there are parts of the place that are staggeringly beautiful in a lush, green, sub-continental way. And the people are, in general, extremely friendly, being very much like Indians, but still distinctly different (it’s largely a Muslim country, but proclaimed as a secular state). They seem to have a different outlook and attitude to that of most Indians.

But, it’s very much a third-world country. Away from cities and larger towns, you’re right back into the pre-industrial era, just like that. I doubt that the countryside looks or functions any differently to how it did 600 years ago.

And the cities are dreadful. The urban poverty is utterly appalling. The crowding, noise, pollution are all off the scale. I remember Dhaka as being the place i was the most glad of all to leave, and that includes places where people shot at me.

I’ve been to a few places in Africa like that. Shooting included.

Cymek said:

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

Yes its strange, celebrities are also often fickle and bored so promote “new” things they have discovered and people flock to it.

it’s just human nature. Not strange at all IMHO.

To me it is, but I find celebrity worship or any worship really as strange

if only STEMocracy but no

Tamb said:

I’ve been to a few places in Africa like that. Shooting included.

Yes, there’s plenty of places in Africa that could figure in a trifecta with Dhaka.

kii said:

or they have considerable (independent) conscious to start with and it’s offended, or insulted by what the machine lends to

transition said:

kii said:

or they have considerable (independent) conscious to start with and it’s offended, or insulted by what the machine lends to

conscience

that’s better, some error correction there

kii said:

You wonder if AI’s could be set up to patrol Facebook and block content so people don’t have to view it.
If it makes what the owner things is a mistake you can flag it to a person for review

transition said:

kii said:

or they have considerable (independent) conscious to start with and it’s offended, or insulted by what the machine lends to

meh…I don’t care

kii said:

transition said:

kii said:

or they have considerable (independent) conscious to start with and it’s offended, or insulted by what the machine lends to

meh…I don’t care

They knew the job was dangerous when they took it…

captain_spalding said:

kii said:

transition said:

or they have considerable (independent) conscious to start with and it’s offended, or insulted by what the machine lends to

meh…I don’t care

They knew the job was dangerous when they took it…

I was invited to be a moderator on the fb page Destroying the Joint.
Lol…no…I’m fucked up enough, thanks. This was a few years ago…before the end times began.

kii said:

the two headed beast of black humour. one head laughing and the other gritting it’s teeth.

kii said:

captain_spalding said:

kii said:

meh…I don’t care

They knew the job was dangerous when they took it…

I was invited to be a moderator on the fb page Destroying the Joint.
Lol…no…I’m fucked up enough, thanks. This was a few years ago…before the end times began.

Pardon, Destroy the Joint. They count dead women in Australia, killed by their husbands etc.

so what’s everyone saying, that someone has to clean up the garbage, or what

kii said:

Pardon, Destroy the Joint. They count dead women in Australia, killed by their husbands etc.

We avoided one such death here last year.

Young woman in our street would suffer at the hands of her male partner, who had drug problems.

My advice, and that of a couple of others, to her was: ‘leave. You can’t change him. You can’t save him. You can’t trust him. He will kill you. He won’t mean to, but he’ll do it, eventually. He’ll be sorry, so sorry, for the rest of his life, but you’ll still be dead. Leave.’

Eventually, it got through to her, and she did leave.

captain_spalding said:

kii said:

Pardon, Destroy the Joint. They count dead women in Australia, killed by their husbands etc.

We avoided one such death here last year.

Young woman in our street would suffer at the hands of her male partner, who had drug problems.

My advice, and that of a couple of others, to her was: ‘leave. You can’t change him. You can’t save him. You can’t trust him. He will kill you. He won’t mean to, but he’ll do it, eventually. He’ll be sorry, so sorry, for the rest of his life, but you’ll still be dead. Leave.’

Eventually, it got through to her, and she did leave.

Excellent. I hope she is doing better.

kii said:

captain_spalding said:

kii said:

Pardon, Destroy the Joint. They count dead women in Australia, killed by their husbands etc.

We avoided one such death here last year.

Young woman in our street would suffer at the hands of her male partner, who had drug problems.

My advice, and that of a couple of others, to her was: ‘leave. You can’t change him. You can’t save him. You can’t trust him. He will kill you. He won’t mean to, but he’ll do it, eventually. He’ll be sorry, so sorry, for the rest of his life, but you’ll still be dead. Leave.’

Eventually, it got through to her, and she did leave.

Excellent. I hope she is doing better.

She is. She came back once to visit some friends in the area, and she dropped in to say hello (he was long gone, wanted by police on a number of matters, and therefore keen to keep away from here and from her).

She was living with her parents at the time, but she said that she’d move on eventually, and said she was glad that she got out when she did.

It’s not funny, it’s not even a meme, and also there’s a lot of reading to do. Enjoy!

dv said:

It’s not funny, it’s not even a meme, and also there’s a lot of reading to do. Enjoy!

I’m having trouble believing other languages aren’t in the same boat.

Kothos said:

dv said:

It’s not funny, it’s not even a meme, and also there’s a lot of reading to do. Enjoy!

I’m having trouble believing other languages aren’t in the same boat.

Well I can’t help you with that.

dv said:

Kothos said:

dv said:

It’s not funny, it’s not even a meme, and also there’s a lot of reading to do. Enjoy!

I’m having trouble believing other languages aren’t in the same boat.

Well I can’t help you with that.

Oh come on, I’m sure you could!

Kothos said:

dv said:

Kothos said:

I’m having trouble believing other languages aren’t in the same boat.

Well I can’t help you with that.

Oh come on, I’m sure you could!

I mean I gave you estimated for Japanese and Spanish. Italian is about the same, French and Russian a bit higher.

dv said:

Kothos said:

dv said:

Well I can’t help you with that.

Oh come on, I’m sure you could!

I mean I gave you estimated for Japanese and Spanish. Italian is about the same, French and Russian a bit higher.

pfft the french those submarine building cry babies….!!!!!!!!one!!1!!!!!

dv said:

Kothos said:

dv said:

Well I can’t help you with that.

Oh come on, I’m sure you could!

I mean I gave you estimated for Japanese and Spanish. Italian is about the same, French and Russian a bit higher.

But I mean, I don’t speak those languages. I speak a bit of French. Is there a way to have a deep understanding of this without speaking the language?

Kothos said:

dv said:

It’s not funny, it’s not even a meme, and also there’s a lot of reading to do. Enjoy!

I’m having trouble believing other languages aren’t in the same boat.

wait, isn’t ex5th already a word

Kothos said:

dv said:

Kothos said:

Oh come on, I’m sure you could!

I mean I gave you estimated for Japanese and Spanish. Italian is about the same, French and Russian a bit higher.

But I mean, I don’t speak those languages. I speak a bit of French. Is there a way to have a deep understanding of this without speaking the language?

I suppose it would be possible for you to research the phonology of those languages without learning them per se.

dv said:

That’s what happens when you drive to the mailbox and stuff.

ms spock said:

ah but what if it’s at the heavenly peace gate

SCIENCE said:

ms spock said:

ah but what if it’s at the heavenly peace gate

does it want to go out or come in or kinda neither but both?

I found a new take on the forum.

Kothos said:

I found a new take on the forum.

sylph surface.

sarahs mum said:

Kothos said:

I found a new take on the forum.

sylph surface.

dv said:

42 eh?

Wow

dv said:

Wow

I reckon he’s saying Skinner!

dv said:

Wow

I imagine they chose Borealis instead of Australis because they didn’t want a load of Tasmanians telling them: “That’s nothing like the aurora.”

dv said:

all right then let’s be fair any of yous ever been in a place like a school or hospital that takes up like a quarter of a block, and yous always knew the number address did yous

dv said:

Wow

That’s a fake aurora.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/26/politics/solarwinds123-password-intern/index.html

Confronted by Rep. Rashida Tlaib, former SolarWinds CEO Kevin Thompson said the password issue was “a mistake that an intern made.” “They violated our password policies and they posted that password on an internal, on their own private Github account,” Thompson said. “As soon as it was identified and brought to the attention of my security team, they took that down.”

Neither Thompson nor Ramakrishna explained to lawmakers why the company’s technology allowed for such passwords in the first place.

Ramakrishna later testified that the password had been in use as early as 2017. “I believe that was a password that an intern used on one of his Github servers back in 2017,” Ramakrishna told Porter, “which was reported to our security team and it was immediately removed.”

fkn interns

Oops, sorry guys…

Kingy said:

Oops, sorry guys…

:)

Spiny Norman said:

Ouch!

Spiny Norman said:

But what if you’ve got a really big dick.

Peak Warming Man said:

Spiny Norman said:

But what if you’ve got a really big dick.

it doesn’t help.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

OK, but a little extreme perhaps?

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

OK, but a little extreme perhaps?

but we didn’t even author either image

dv said:

he should make his own bread.

dv said:

That’s a depressing looking scene.

we mean it’s always good, just not the best

SCIENCE said:

we mean it’s always good, just not the best

Good for another 7 years i’d say.

Spiny Norman said:

I like it.

Spiny Norman said:

Awwwww.

Amicus meus, inimicus inimici mei

Ian said:

They like a drink, anything fermented and then the drink and fly and become a menace.

sarahs mum said:

Hah.

sarahs mum said:

They say English is a particularly difficult language to learn if you want speak it very well.

But it’s easy enough to speak English badly and still be understood, unlike a number of other languages.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

They say English is a particularly difficult language to learn if you want speak it very well.

But it’s easy enough to speak English badly and still be understood, unlike a number of other languages.

Very true.

sarahs mum said:

:)

I suspect there’s big moth flapping around in there or suchlike.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

:)

I suspect there’s big moth flapping around in there or suchlike.

Why would the pig be so interested in a moth?

fsm said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

:)

I suspect there’s big moth flapping around in there or suchlike.

Why would the pig be so interested in a moth?

He’s just keeping an eye on the cats.

Bubblecar said:

fsm said:

Bubblecar said:

:)

I suspect there’s big moth flapping around in there or suchlike.

Why would the pig be so interested in a moth?

He’s just keeping an eye on the cats.

As one should.

sarahs mum said:

You know it makes sense.

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

You know it makes sense.

thanks Sam.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-05/protests-break-out-in-iran-as-schoolgirls-hospitalised/102055500

Spiny Norman said:

Oh nice, very nice.

Are they in order? I sort of get messed up between Peter Davison and Christopher Eccleston.

mollwollfumble said:

Spiny Norman said:

Oh nice, very nice.

Are they in order? I sort of get messed up between Peter Davison and Christopher Eccleston.

They’re in order up to Slyvester McCoy (number 1 line 3), and presumably afterwards too (I don’t know much about 21st century Who).

Peter Davison is the hippy-looking one in the middle of line 2.

Brings back memories.

biggerise it in a new tab.

God knows what cellotape has to do with this meme.

ChrispenEvan said:

God knows what cellotape has to do with this meme.

The Lord suggests the rhythm method.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

God knows what cellotape has to do with this meme.

The Lord suggests the rhythm method.

a little bit of blues and a little bit of jazz.

ChrispenEvan said:

biggerise it in a new tab.

The word is “embiggen”.

The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:

biggerise it in a new tab.

The word is “embiggen”.

I don’t follow the flock.

ChrispenEvan said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:

biggerise it in a new tab.

The word is “embiggen”.

I don’t follow the flock.

No need to buggerise the language though!

The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

The word is “embiggen”.

I don’t follow the flock.

No need to buggerise the language though!

I was gunna say that. You saved me.

I notice that there are pop tarts, but no nan tarts.

I blame the pastryarchy.

Kingy said:

I notice that there are pop tarts, but no nan tarts.

I blame the pastryarchy.

That’s a bun joke.

Maybe, maybe not.

sarahs mum said:

Maybe, maybe not.

It may be true if you do speak the lingo.

There’s quite a few English dialects I find alost impossible to comprehend.

sarahs mum said:

Maybe, maybe not.

I can speak English very well.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Maybe, maybe not.

It may be true if you do speak the lingo.

There’s quite a few English dialects I find alost impossible to comprehend.

However, etge ucktefe is universal.

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

Maybe, maybe not.

I can speak English very well.

Ke?

dv said:

democracy

Spiny Norman said:

Should have planted something prickly on the inside of each bend in the bottom photo. Roses maybe?

sarahs mum said:

Like that one :)

roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

Should have planted something prickly on the inside of each bend in the bottom photo. Roses maybe?

Why?

sarahs mum said:

LOLOLOL

Kothos said:

roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

Should have planted something prickly on the inside of each bend in the bottom photo. Roses maybe?

Why?

CONFORMITY MUST BE ENFORCED WITH PAIN!

Kothos said:

roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

Should have planted something prickly on the inside of each bend in the bottom photo. Roses maybe?

Why?

The situationalists watched people in the landscape and then put in the paths.

dv said:

can’t argue with that.

Kothos said:

roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

Should have planted something prickly on the inside of each bend in the bottom photo. Roses maybe?

Why?

To make them follow the path.

roughbarked said:

To make them follow the path.

The idea of a meandering path is not necessarily a bad one. It’s a question of how it’s implemented.

Some few years back, the local Council concrete-paved a shared pedestrian and cycle path along the waterfront at Bargara, in Queensland.

It meandered about in a very gradual way, and some people remarked that the silly bloody Council couldn’t even build a straight footpath.

But, it achieved the objective of gradually changing the view in front of walkers and cyclists as they moved along the path. For some of the time, you’d see more of park and trees, and then. a little farther on, your view was more of sea and shoreline. You weren’t ‘stuck’, so to say, with one angle of view as you progressed.

As it’s a gradual meander, there’s little advantage in cutting across the bights of the path as has happened in the picture.

The meander is an ok idea; they just made it too short and severe.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

To make them follow the path.

The idea of a meandering path is not necessarily a bad one. It’s a question of how it’s implemented.

Some few years back, the local Council concrete-paved a shared pedestrian and cycle path along the waterfront at Bargara, in Queensland.

It meandered about in a very gradual way, and some people remarked that the silly bloody Council couldn’t even build a straight footpath.

But, it achieved the objective of gradually changing the view in front of walkers and cyclists as they moved along the path. For some of the time, you’d see more of park and trees, and then. a little farther on, your view was more of sea and shoreline. You weren’t ‘stuck’, so to say, with one angle of view as you progressed.

As it’s a gradual meander, there’s little advantage in cutting across the bights of the path as has happened in the picture.

The meander is an ok idea; they just made it too short and severe.

I agree.

roughbarked said:

Kothos said:

roughbarked said:

Should have planted something prickly on the inside of each bend in the bottom photo. Roses maybe?

Why?

To make them follow the path.

Because the architect likes wasting people’s time?

Kothos said:

roughbarked said:

Kothos said:

Why?

To make them follow the path.

Because the architect likes wasting people’s time?

Because the idea was to develop creative thinkers.

roughbarked said:

Kothos said:

roughbarked said:

To make them follow the path.

Because the architect likes wasting people’s time?

Because the idea was to develop creative thinkers.

The creative thinkers ignore designers trying to waste their time, and just make their own straight path to the door :)

Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

Kothos said:

Because the architect likes wasting people’s time?

Because the idea was to develop creative thinkers.

The creative thinkers ignore designers trying to waste their time, and just make their own straight path to the door :)

Nah they don’t think outside the box of time is money.

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

Because the idea was to develop creative thinkers.

The creative thinkers ignore designers trying to waste their time, and just make their own straight path to the door :)

Nah they don’t think outside the box of time is money.

Everyone has times when the shortest, most direct path is the one they need.

And everyone has times when they can afford to take it more slowly, and look at the surroundings.

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

Because the idea was to develop creative thinkers.

The creative thinkers ignore designers trying to waste their time, and just make their own straight path to the door :)

Nah they don’t think outside the box of time is money.

But you’re suggesting that people should be “made to” follow someone else’s path, and that such regimentation “develops creative thinkers”.

Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

The creative thinkers ignore designers trying to waste their time, and just make their own straight path to the door :)

Nah they don’t think outside the box of time is money.

But you’re suggesting that people should be “made to” follow someone else’s path, and that such regimentation “develops creative thinkers”.

nah I was pulling yer leg.

Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

Kothos said:

Because the architect likes wasting people’s time?

Because the idea was to develop creative thinkers.

The creative thinkers ignore designers trying to waste their time, and just make their own straight path to the door :)

Precisely.

dv said:

used to be called puffins.

dv said:

And “brisling sardines” are actually sprats (sprattus sprattus).

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

And “brisling sardines” are actually sprats (sprattus sprattus).

And that’s why if you wanted to be a lawyer, botanist or medical doctor you had to have passed senior latin to get a look in.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

And “brisling sardines” are actually sprats (sprattus sprattus).

And that’s why if you wanted to be a lawyer, botanist or medical doctor you had to have passed senior latin to get a look in.

——

Horticulturists have to learn the latin name of plants, mostly…

Otherwise horticulturists around the world would have trouble understanding what plants they are talking about.

dv said:

:)

Too right. :(

Spiny Norman said:

Too right. :(

Same with pubs, concert halls, amusement parks… People should be made to sign a waiver before moving nearby saying they are aware of the noise and there’s nothing they can do about it.

Spiny Norman said:

Too right. :(

Same with pubs, concert halls, amusement parks… People should be made to sign a waiver before moving nearby saying they are aware of the noise and there’s nothing they can do about it.

Spiny Norman said:

Too right. :(

I think i’ve mentioned before a quarry i worked at for a short while.

When originally opened, it was literally miles from any houses.

Eventually, housing development crept up to the quarry boundaries. Residents complained about noise, dust, vibration, etc.

Quarry owners did everything asked of them, and a lot more, to minimise the problems.

Complaints continued to grow in number and exaggeration.

Owner opened yet another letter from Council or EPA or similar about new complaints, threw it on the desk, and said ‘For f***‘s sake, it’s not like we camouflaged the bloody place when they came to look over the block they wanted to buy!’

Spiny Norman said:

Too right. :(

People need homes, not fucking noisy cars with fucking wankers with selfish childish behaviour.

kii said:

Spiny Norman said:

Too right. :(

People need homes, not fucking noisy cars with fucking wankers with selfish childish behaviour.

You need to read the meme again.

Kothos said:

Spiny Norman said:

Too right. :(

Same with pubs, concert halls, amusement parks… People should be made to sign a waiver before moving nearby saying they are aware of the noise and there’s nothing they can do about it.

Airports too.

Spiny Norman said:

kii said:

Spiny Norman said:

Too right. :(

People need homes, not fucking noisy cars with fucking wankers with selfish childish behaviour.

You need to read the meme again.

No.

Spiny Norman said:

Too right. :(

Stanthorpe comes to mind. Dragstrip and circuit built way out of town next to rubbish tip. Fast forward 30 years and a a housing estate of acreage blocks and giant mansions erupts around the area. Owners of mansions take club to court, wanting it closed down. Judge was sensible, as it happens. Ruling: Calendar of dates and times to be published annually, and no meeting to go past 10 pm.

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Too right. :(

Stanthorpe comes to mind. Dragstrip and circuit built way out of town next to rubbish tip. Fast forward 30 years and a a housing estate of acreage blocks and giant mansions erupts around the area. Owners of mansions take club to court, wanting it closed down. Judge was sensible, as it happens. Ruling: Calendar of dates and times to be published annually, and no meeting to go past 10 pm.

A bit of common sense like that goes a long way.

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Too right. :(

Stanthorpe comes to mind. Dragstrip and circuit built way out of town next to rubbish tip. Fast forward 30 years and a a housing estate of acreage blocks and giant mansions erupts around the area. Owners of mansions take club to court, wanting it closed down. Judge was sensible, as it happens. Ruling: Calendar of dates and times to be published annually, and no meeting to go past 10 pm.

Car racing is not essential, it’s bullshit. The whole obsession thing with cars is really off, and I have a son who is obsessed with cars.

kii said:

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Too right. :(

Stanthorpe comes to mind. Dragstrip and circuit built way out of town next to rubbish tip. Fast forward 30 years and a a housing estate of acreage blocks and giant mansions erupts around the area. Owners of mansions take club to court, wanting it closed down. Judge was sensible, as it happens. Ruling: Calendar of dates and times to be published annually, and no meeting to go past 10 pm.

Car racing is not essential, it’s bullshit. The whole obsession thing with cars is really off, and I have a son who is obsessed with cars.

There’s quite a lot of people in the world that aren’t you, and don’t have the same interests as you. You no doubt have interests that other people here aren’t the slightest but into, and that’s okay.

Spiny Norman said:

kii said:

Michael V said:

Stanthorpe comes to mind. Dragstrip and circuit built way out of town next to rubbish tip. Fast forward 30 years and a a housing estate of acreage blocks and giant mansions erupts around the area. Owners of mansions take club to court, wanting it closed down. Judge was sensible, as it happens. Ruling: Calendar of dates and times to be published annually, and no meeting to go past 10 pm.

Car racing is not essential, it’s bullshit. The whole obsession thing with cars is really off, and I have a son who is obsessed with cars.

There’s quite a lot of people in the world that aren’t you, and don’t have the same interests as you. You no doubt have interests that other people here aren’t the slightest but into, and that’s okay.

My interests don’t foul the environment, and kill people and animals on roads.

kii said:

Spiny Norman said:

kii said:

Car racing is not essential, it’s bullshit. The whole obsession thing with cars is really off, and I have a son who is obsessed with cars.

There’s quite a lot of people in the world that aren’t you, and don’t have the same interests as you. You no doubt have interests that other people here aren’t the slightest but into, and that’s okay.

My interests don’t foul the environment, and kill people and animals on roads.

Motorsport does very little of that.

Spiny Norman said:

kii said:

Spiny Norman said:

There’s quite a lot of people in the world that aren’t you, and don’t have the same interests as you. You no doubt have interests that other people here aren’t the slightest but into, and that’s okay.

My interests don’t foul the environment, and kill people and animals on roads.

Motorsport does very little of that.

I’ve not been to a lot of motor racing, but i don’t recall that any of the tracks would permit animals on the racing circuit. At least, none that couldn’t drive cars.

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

kii said:

My interests don’t foul the environment, and kill people and animals on roads.

Motorsport does very little of that.

I’ve not been to a lot of motor racing, but i don’t recall that any of the tracks would permit animals on the racing circuit. At least, none that couldn’t drive cars.

I’ve seen a dog drive a car – Not far though.
The biggest concern about killing animals is on rallies. I was involved in them for a couple of decades and we found that the animals could hear the cars coming and get out of the way before they got there. I’ve never seen any dead ones on the sides of the road.
Plenty on the side of public roads though.

People buy houses where there are houses to buy. There ought to be adequate zoning laws to ensure houses aren’t built too close to existing noisy land use that’s already been permitted.

It’s not as if this is a tiny overcrowded country.

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Motorsport does very little of that.

I’ve not been to a lot of motor racing, but i don’t recall that any of the tracks would permit animals on the racing circuit. At least, none that couldn’t drive cars.

I’ve seen a dog drive a car – Not far though.
The biggest concern about killing animals is on rallies. I was involved in them for a couple of decades and we found that the animals could hear the cars coming and get out of the way before they got there. I’ve never seen any dead ones on the sides of the road.
Plenty on the side of public roads though.

Mz Tamb was a rally driver and the only thing she killed was her Mini.

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Motorsport does very little of that.

I’ve not been to a lot of motor racing, but i don’t recall that any of the tracks would permit animals on the racing circuit. At least, none that couldn’t drive cars.

I’ve seen a dog drive a car – Not far though.
The biggest concern about killing animals is on rallies. I was involved in them for a couple of decades and we found that the animals could hear the cars coming and get out of the way before they got there. I’ve never seen any dead ones on the sides of the road.
Plenty on the side of public roads though.

Actually about a month and a half ago I was driving home along the local highway and in the distance on the side of the road I saw a cockatoo diving down to something on the side. I managed a quick look as I went past and it was a dead cockatoo. :(
So at the next exit I turned around and went back to the previous intersection, to come back along the same section of highway. I pulled over, got a plastic bag out of the back of the car, then walked on the safe side of the guiderail to the dead parrot. I picked it up and put it a few metres into the bush, so the other parrot wasn’t going to also be collected by another car.
Spocky said that they have a lot of cameras along the highway and I’d probably get a ticket for stopping.
“I don’t care.”

Tamb said:

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

I’ve not been to a lot of motor racing, but i don’t recall that any of the tracks would permit animals on the racing circuit. At least, none that couldn’t drive cars.

I’ve seen a dog drive a car – Not far though.
The biggest concern about killing animals is on rallies. I was involved in them for a couple of decades and we found that the animals could hear the cars coming and get out of the way before they got there. I’ve never seen any dead ones on the sides of the road.
Plenty on the side of public roads though.

Mz Tamb was a rally driver and the only thing she killed was her Mini.

:)

Bubblecar said:

People buy houses where there are houses to buy. There ought to be adequate zoning laws to ensure houses aren’t built too close to existing noisy land use that’s already been permitted.

It’s not as if this is a tiny overcrowded country.

Money isn’t it, houses are almost touching each other now.

My sons block is about half the size or ours for twice the price.
My parents had a quarter of an acre which is at least twice the size of ours

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Motorsport does very little of that.

I’ve not been to a lot of motor racing, but i don’t recall that any of the tracks would permit animals on the racing circuit. At least, none that couldn’t drive cars.

I’ve seen a dog drive a car – Not far though.
The biggest concern about killing animals is on rallies. I was involved in them for a couple of decades and we found that the animals could hear the cars coming and get out of the way before they got there. I’ve never seen any dead ones on the sides of the road.
Plenty on the side of public roads though.

The side roads between Campbell Town and Longford are littered with dead fauna. It’s rumoured that some locals actually target animals on the road instead of trying to avoid them.

Unfortunately when we to go to Longford the Ross people insist on taking that route instead of the highway, which I would prefer ‘cos it’s safer, apart from other considerations.

I think that most racing, maybe all of it, car, horse, boat, bicycle, whatever is a bit silly, an exercise in dick-waving, ‘my boat is faster than yours, nyah-nyah’, but i’ve never done any myself so i may well be wrong. Of course, there’s the vicarious thrills of gambling on it, and the opportunities for money-laundering and race-fixing, so it has that going for it.

My biggest complaint about things like motor racing is that it’s as boring as an old grey army blanket. Without the redeeming feature of maybe keeping you warm.

On the occasions when i attend it , it consisted of staying in one place with an empty stretch or road/race track in front of you. Periodically, a bunch of cars would whizz past in a matter of seconds, with a great deal of noise. Then, nothing for long time, empty stretch of road, and then the same bunch of cars do the same thing again, in pretty much the same order as last time. Repeat 10, 20, 30, times, whatever.

It may be very thrilling for the drivers, but i found that their regular passings-by were only an annoying disruption to the pleasant nap which the circumstances caused me to desire.

captain_spalding said:

I think that most racing, maybe all of it, car, horse, boat, bicycle, whatever is a bit silly, an exercise in dick-waving, ‘my boat is faster than yours, nyah-nyah’, but i’ve never done any myself so i may well be wrong. Of course, there’s the vicarious thrills of gambling on it, and the opportunities for money-laundering and race-fixing, so it has that going for it.

My biggest complaint about things like motor racing is that it’s as boring as an old grey army blanket. Without the redeeming feature of maybe keeping you warm.

On the occasions when i attend it , it consisted of staying in one place with an empty stretch or road/race track in front of you. Periodically, a bunch of cars would whizz past in a matter of seconds, with a great deal of noise. Then, nothing for long time, empty stretch of road, and then the same bunch of cars do the same thing again, in pretty much the same order as last time. Repeat 10, 20, 30, times, whatever.

It may be very thrilling for the drivers, but i found that their regular passings-by were only an annoying disruption to the pleasant nap which the circumstances caused me to desire.

The Royals like horse racing as its the same species as them doing the running

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

People buy houses where there are houses to buy. There ought to be adequate zoning laws to ensure houses aren’t built too close to existing noisy land use that’s already been permitted.

It’s not as if this is a tiny overcrowded country.

Money isn’t it, houses are almost touching each other now.

My sons block is about half the size or ours for twice the price.
My parents had a quarter of an acre which is at least twice the size of ours

Little boxes made of ticky tacky.

Bubblecar said:

People buy houses where there are houses to buy. There ought to be adequate zoning laws to ensure houses aren’t built too close to existing noisy land use that’s already been permitted.

It’s not as if this is a tiny overcrowded country.

But,the real estate market wants you to believe that it is.

By keeping the housing supply concentrated into a limited number of urban areas, it can be rationed, and buyers made desperate, and prices boosted higher and higher.

If governments were properly committed to decentralisation, provision of infrastructure, and population of new areas, you’d hardly be able to charge a dollar for land in this country.

captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

People buy houses where there are houses to buy. There ought to be adequate zoning laws to ensure houses aren’t built too close to existing noisy land use that’s already been permitted.

It’s not as if this is a tiny overcrowded country.

But,the real estate market wants you to believe that it is.

By keeping the housing supply concentrated into a limited number of urban areas, it can be rationed, and buyers made desperate, and prices boosted higher and higher.

If governments were properly committed to decentralisation, provision of infrastructure, and population of new areas, you’d hardly be able to charge a dollar for land in this country.

I think we will find that supplying all these extra people with water will be more difficult than finding them blocks of land.

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

People buy houses where there are houses to buy. There ought to be adequate zoning laws to ensure houses aren’t built too close to existing noisy land use that’s already been permitted.

It’s not as if this is a tiny overcrowded country.

Money isn’t it, houses are almost touching each other now.

My sons block is about half the size or ours for twice the price.
My parents had a quarter of an acre which is at least twice the size of ours

and even though people are all ‘we want tiny houses’ some of the villa units are really small and built on handkerchiefs of land.

kii said:

Car racing is not essential, it’s bullshit. The whole obsession thing with cars is really off, and I have a son who is obsessed with cars.

To be fair, that’s not the point of the meme.

Bubblecar said:

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

I’ve not been to a lot of motor racing, but i don’t recall that any of the tracks would permit animals on the racing circuit. At least, none that couldn’t drive cars.

I’ve seen a dog drive a car – Not far though.
The biggest concern about killing animals is on rallies. I was involved in them for a couple of decades and we found that the animals could hear the cars coming and get out of the way before they got there. I’ve never seen any dead ones on the sides of the road.
Plenty on the side of public roads though.

The side roads between Campbell Town and Longford are littered with dead fauna. It’s rumoured that some locals actually target animals on the road instead of trying to avoid them.

Unfortunately when we to go to Longford the Ross people insist on taking that route instead of the highway, which I would prefer ‘cos it’s safer, apart from other considerations.

that highway turn off to Longford is a deadly one isn’t it?

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

People buy houses where there are houses to buy. There ought to be adequate zoning laws to ensure houses aren’t built too close to existing noisy land use that’s already been permitted.

It’s not as if this is a tiny overcrowded country.

But,the real estate market wants you to believe that it is.

By keeping the housing supply concentrated into a limited number of urban areas, it can be rationed, and buyers made desperate, and prices boosted higher and higher.

If governments were properly committed to decentralisation, provision of infrastructure, and population of new areas, you’d hardly be able to charge a dollar for land in this country.

I think we will find that supplying all these extra people with water will be more difficult than finding them blocks of land.

There’s that terrible ‘infrastucture’ word again.

If governments go spending lots of money on stuff like that, what will they have left to give to mining companies so that mining companies can give a little of it back to political parties?

captain_spalding said:

I think that most racing, maybe all of it, car, horse, boat, bicycle, whatever is a bit silly, an exercise in dick-waving, ‘my boat is faster than yours, nyah-nyah’,

There’s certainly a number of people that do indeed treat it that way, but not all of us. I see it as a technical challenge, to do the best I can.
(I have to make the car(s) as good as I can, because I’m not the fastest driver)

sarahs mum said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

People buy houses where there are houses to buy. There ought to be adequate zoning laws to ensure houses aren’t built too close to existing noisy land use that’s already been permitted.

It’s not as if this is a tiny overcrowded country.

Money isn’t it, houses are almost touching each other now.

My sons block is about half the size or ours for twice the price.
My parents had a quarter of an acre which is at least twice the size of ours

and even though people are all ‘we want tiny houses’ some of the villa units are really small and built on handkerchiefs of land.

I don’t want a tiny house. Some of them might be cute to look at but they’d be hell to live in.

I’d like a house at least twice as big as the one I’m currently living in.

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

I think that most racing, maybe all of it, car, horse, boat, bicycle, whatever is a bit silly, an exercise in dick-waving, ‘my boat is faster than yours, nyah-nyah’,

There’s certainly a number of people that do indeed treat it that way, but not all of us. I see it as a technical challenge, to do the best I can.
(I have to make the car(s) as good as I can, because I’m not the fastest driver)

I know what you mean.

I used to be in a pistol club. I didn’t enter competitions, because i’m a piss-poor shot with a pistol. I used to do it just because i enjoyed the gradual improvement that practice and coaching brought.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Spiny Norman said:

I’ve seen a dog drive a car – Not far though.
The biggest concern about killing animals is on rallies. I was involved in them for a couple of decades and we found that the animals could hear the cars coming and get out of the way before they got there. I’ve never seen any dead ones on the sides of the road.
Plenty on the side of public roads though.

The side roads between Campbell Town and Longford are littered with dead fauna. It’s rumoured that some locals actually target animals on the road instead of trying to avoid them.

Unfortunately when we to go to Longford the Ross people insist on taking that route instead of the highway, which I would prefer ‘cos it’s safer, apart from other considerations.

that highway turn off to Longford is a deadly one isn’t it?

I don’t know, they’re continually upgrading these things. The Ross people want to avoid highway road works, and I don’t complain. But I don’t feel safe on those narrow winding side roads.

Bubblecar said:

I don’t want a tiny house. Some of them might be cute to look at but they’d be hell to live in.

I’d like a house at least twice as big as the one I’m currently living in.

They have those ‘tiny house’ shows on that 9 Life TV channel.

I’ve seen some where couples and even families take up residence in them, knowing full well that they’ll be living together in the place through snow-and-ice American winters.

And even i, never having lived in such a place, know of the words ‘cabin fever’ and ‘murder’. But they seem to be oblivious of these terms.

Much weeding, whippering snippering, pruning and watering was completed. Translation of the children’s story is in progress. I have a lot of Irish homework, it is so fascinating to see the layers of meanings in the construction of the sentences, with sounds not in English.

Jokes by bear

dv said:

Why stay home and masturbate when he can do it on Twitter?

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Why stay home and masturbate when he can do it on Twitter?

exactly, 4 million people per hour just waiting for his latest ejaculations

wait so treating pulmonary hypertension or frailty and keeping tidy are now gender affirming wait

sorry we didn’t time travel back to confirm

SCIENCE said:

wait so treating pulmonary hypertension or frailty and keeping tidy are now gender affirming wait

Mad people everywhere.

Big old gum trees are called ‘widow makers’ for a reason. Don’t camp under them and don’t park under them. The branches can let go with no warning in perfectly still conditions.

Spiny Norman said:

Big old gum trees are called ‘widow makers’ for a reason. Don’t camp under them and don’t park under them. The branches can let go with no warning in perfectly still conditions.

I’m sure they rue that parking decision.

Spiny Norman said:

Big old gum trees are called ‘widow makers’ for a reason. Don’t camp under them and don’t park under them. The branches can let go with no warning in perfectly still conditions.

Happened in the park at the end of the street, night before last.

Not as spectacular as that pic, but a branch 12 -15 cm in diameter had broken off a eucalypt and fallen to the ground during the night.

No apparent reason. Broken branch looked healthy enough at the break, no wind (been quite calm here for days), too high for anything to reach, foliage load didn’t look too great.

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Big old gum trees are called ‘widow makers’ for a reason. Don’t camp under them and don’t park under them. The branches can let go with no warning in perfectly still conditions.

Happened in the park at the end of the street, night before last.

Not as spectacular as that pic, but a branch 12 -15 cm in diameter had broken off a eucalypt and fallen to the ground during the night.

No apparent reason. Broken branch looked healthy enough at the break, no wind (been quite calm here for days), too high for anything to reach, foliage load didn’t look too great.

They prune themselves to save themselves the trouble of carrying that extra weight. They keep doing this until the next flood and then they put all that weighht back on in a year.

roughbarked said:

They prune themselves to save themselves the trouble of carrying that extra weight. They keep doing this until the next flood and then they put all that weighht back on in a year.

Now that i think about it, it is the tallest tree in the park ( i can see the upper half of it from the window where i’m sitting, over the top of neighbouring houses).

But, given the local topography, i doubt that it ever has seen or ever will see a flood.

Spiny Norman said:

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Spiny Norman said:

Big old gum trees are called ‘widow makers’ for a reason. Don’t camp under them and don’t park under them. The branches can let go with no warning in perfectly still conditions.

Bit of an awkward drive back home.

Spiny Norman said:

Big old gum trees are called ‘widow makers’ for a reason. Don’t camp under them and don’t park under them. The branches can let go with no warning in perfectly still conditions.

in tassie silver wattles are called widow makers. As are the eucalypt stags.

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Big old gum trees are called ‘widow makers’ for a reason. Don’t camp under them and don’t park under them. The branches can let go with no warning in perfectly still conditions.

Bit of an awkward drive back home.

Especially carrying all that wood.

Kothos said:

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Big old gum trees are called ‘widow makers’ for a reason. Don’t camp under them and don’t park under them. The branches can let go with no warning in perfectly still conditions.

Bit of an awkward drive back home.

Especially carrying all that wood.

still, it’ll come in handy over winter.

gotta love grifter cookers

ChrispenEvan said:

:)

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

They prune themselves to save themselves the trouble of carrying that extra weight. They keep doing this until the next flood and then they put all that weighht back on in a year.

Now that i think about it, it is the tallest tree in the park ( i can see the upper half of it from the window where i’m sitting, over the top of neighbouring houses).

But, given the local topography, i doubt that it ever has seen or ever will see a flood.

I was talking about red gum. What is your tree?

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Big old gum trees are called ‘widow makers’ for a reason. Don’t camp under them and don’t park under them. The branches can let go with no warning in perfectly still conditions.

Bit of an awkward drive back home.

I don’t think it will buff out.

Kothos said:

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Big old gum trees are called ‘widow makers’ for a reason. Don’t camp under them and don’t park under them. The branches can let go with no warning in perfectly still conditions.

Bit of an awkward drive back home.

Especially carrying all that wood.

It’s only a one tonne ute, not a two tonne.

Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

:)

I enjoyed Douglas Adams’ writing style. So descriptive.

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

They prune themselves to save themselves the trouble of carrying that extra weight. They keep doing this until the next flood and then they put all that weighht back on in a year.

Now that i think about it, it is the tallest tree in the park ( i can see the upper half of it from the window where i’m sitting, over the top of neighbouring houses).

But, given the local topography, i doubt that it ever has seen or ever will see a flood.

I was talking about red gum. What is your tree?

Gum.

I’m hopeless when it comes to trees.

Not that long ago, i had to appeal to the Forum for help to identify the tree that grows in front of the house we’ve lived in for ten years.

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Big old gum trees are called ‘widow makers’ for a reason. Don’t camp under them and don’t park under them. The branches can let go with no warning in perfectly still conditions.

Bit of an awkward drive back home.

I don’t think it will buff out.

Going to need an awful lot of bog.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Bit of an awkward drive back home.

I don’t think it will buff out.

Going to need an awful lot of bog.

Well, there is a lot of me. enough for everyone.

Bogsnorkler said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

I don’t think it will buff out.

Going to need an awful lot of bog.

Well, there is a lot of me. enough for everyone.

Change your handle to ‘The Magic Pudding’?

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Now that i think about it, it is the tallest tree in the park ( i can see the upper half of it from the window where i’m sitting, over the top of neighbouring houses).

But, given the local topography, i doubt that it ever has seen or ever will see a flood.

I was talking about red gum. What is your tree?

Gum.

I’m hopeless when it comes to trees.

Not that long ago, i had to appeal to the Forum for help to identify the tree that grows in front of the house we’ve lived in for ten years.

:) got any photos and at least a location?

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

I was talking about red gum. What is your tree?

Gum.

I’m hopeless when it comes to trees.

Not that long ago, i had to appeal to the Forum for help to identify the tree that grows in front of the house we’ve lived in for ten years.

:) got any photos and at least a location?

Oh, it’s not that important.

Had another look at it when i took the Wolf out a short while back.

It was the lowest branch on the trunk, so the ‘self-pruning’ idea appears to fit with it discarding a least-necessary limb.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Gum.

I’m hopeless when it comes to trees.

Not that long ago, i had to appeal to the Forum for help to identify the tree that grows in front of the house we’ve lived in for ten years.

:) got any photos and at least a location?

Oh, it’s not that important.

Had another look at it when i took the Wolf out a short while back.

It was the lowest branch on the trunk, so the ‘self-pruning’ idea appears to fit with it discarding a least-necessary limb.

Yes.

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

I was talking about red gum. What is your tree?

Gum.

I’m hopeless when it comes to trees.

Not that long ago, i had to appeal to the Forum for help to identify the tree that grows in front of the house we’ve lived in for ten years.

:) got any photos and at least a location?

location is the front yard.

Damn, Bermuda was ready for the Zoom era

dv said:

Damn, Bermuda was ready for the Zoom era

at least they’re not wearing sandals.

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Big old gum trees are called ‘widow makers’ for a reason. Don’t camp under them and don’t park under them. The branches can let go with no warning in perfectly still conditions.

Happened in the park at the end of the street, night before last.

Not as spectacular as that pic, but a branch 12 -15 cm in diameter had broken off a eucalypt and fallen to the ground during the night.

No apparent reason. Broken branch looked healthy enough at the break, no wind (been quite calm here for days), too high for anything to reach, foliage load didn’t look too great.

Apparently it is because the tree senses that it won’t be able to sustain all limbs and branches, so it stays ahead of the game. Nothing dies and falls off. It just lets it go, but I could be wrong because that was told to me a long time ago.

ChrispenEvan said:

Iontach!

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Gum.

I’m hopeless when it comes to trees.

Not that long ago, i had to appeal to the Forum for help to identify the tree that grows in front of the house we’ve lived in for ten years.

:) got any photos and at least a location?

location is the front yard.

This is in my front yard. Though that photo goes back to 20 years or more ago.

A lot would call it a gum but it is a Box. A Yellow Box.

It stands around 25m tall. I planted the tiny seedling in 1982.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

They prune themselves to save themselves the trouble of carrying that extra weight. They keep doing this until the next flood and then they put all that weighht back on in a year.

Now that i think about it, it is the tallest tree in the park ( i can see the upper half of it from the window where i’m sitting, over the top of neighbouring houses).

But, given the local topography, i doubt that it ever has seen or ever will see a flood.

I think of the term widow maker relating to hanging branches, ie ones that have fallen off but are caught up. We’ve got three in the backyard at the moment. I poked at one the other day to see if I could make it dislodge, but it was resolute. I think if I threw a rope over it I might be able to persuade it down. The other two are far too high up. I just need to be aware of them.

ms spock said:

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Big old gum trees are called ‘widow makers’ for a reason. Don’t camp under them and don’t park under them. The branches can let go with no warning in perfectly still conditions.

Happened in the park at the end of the street, night before last.

Not as spectacular as that pic, but a branch 12 -15 cm in diameter had broken off a eucalypt and fallen to the ground during the night.

No apparent reason. Broken branch looked healthy enough at the break, no wind (been quite calm here for days), too high for anything to reach, foliage load didn’t look too great.

Apparently it is because the tree senses that it won’t be able to sustain all limbs and branches, so it stays ahead of the game. Nothing dies and falls off. It just lets it go, but I could be wrong because that was told to me a long time ago.

Sometimes it could be dry rot or weakening from termites but often as nnot, the plant simply drops it. Lets it go.

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

They prune themselves to save themselves the trouble of carrying that extra weight. They keep doing this until the next flood and then they put all that weighht back on in a year.

Now that i think about it, it is the tallest tree in the park ( i can see the upper half of it from the window where i’m sitting, over the top of neighbouring houses).

But, given the local topography, i doubt that it ever has seen or ever will see a flood.

I think of the term widow maker relating to hanging branches, ie ones that have fallen off but are caught up. We’ve got three in the backyard at the moment. I poked at one the other day to see if I could make it dislodge, but it was resolute. I think if I threw a rope over it I might be able to persuade it down. The other two are far too high up. I just need to be aware of them.

You are correct buffy. Yes. the widow maker is the hung up branch that is just waiting for you to walk under it.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

Now that i think about it, it is the tallest tree in the park ( i can see the upper half of it from the window where i’m sitting, over the top of neighbouring houses).

But, given the local topography, i doubt that it ever has seen or ever will see a flood.

I think of the term widow maker relating to hanging branches, ie ones that have fallen off but are caught up. We’ve got three in the backyard at the moment. I poked at one the other day to see if I could make it dislodge, but it was resolute. I think if I threw a rope over it I might be able to persuade it down. The other two are far too high up. I just need to be aware of them.

You are correct buffy. Yes. the widow maker is the hung up branch that is just waiting for you to walk under it.

I have on over my driveway. I pass that point as quickly as possible.

ChrispenEvan said:

Kothos said:

Michael V said:

Bit of an awkward drive back home.

Especially carrying all that wood.

still, it’ll come in handy over winter.

Still a bit green. Needs to be split and weathered for a couple of hot Summers.

ChrispenEvan said:

Oh, there are just so many of them. Quotes get flung around this house a lot.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Now that i think about it, it is the tallest tree in the park ( i can see the upper half of it from the window where i’m sitting, over the top of neighbouring houses).

But, given the local topography, i doubt that it ever has seen or ever will see a flood.

I was talking about red gum. What is your tree?

Gum.

I’m hopeless when it comes to trees.

Not that long ago, i had to appeal to the Forum for help to identify the tree that grows in front of the house we’ve lived in for ten years.

I am glad to read that the Forum was there for you, in your time of need!

roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

captain_spalding said:

Happened in the park at the end of the street, night before last.

Not as spectacular as that pic, but a branch 12 -15 cm in diameter had broken off a eucalypt and fallen to the ground during the night.

No apparent reason. Broken branch looked healthy enough at the break, no wind (been quite calm here for days), too high for anything to reach, foliage load didn’t look too great.

Apparently it is because the tree senses that it won’t be able to sustain all limbs and branches, so it stays ahead of the game. Nothing dies and falls off. It just lets it go, but I could be wrong because that was told to me a long time ago.

Sometimes it could be dry rot or weakening from termites but often as nnot, the plant simply drops it. Lets it go.

yep. the regnans do that. It’s like the summer deciduous thing. leaves and branches get shed and new growth happens.

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

They prune themselves to save themselves the trouble of carrying that extra weight. They keep doing this until the next flood and then they put all that weighht back on in a year.

Now that i think about it, it is the tallest tree in the park ( i can see the upper half of it from the window where i’m sitting, over the top of neighbouring houses).

But, given the local topography, i doubt that it ever has seen or ever will see a flood.

I think of the term widow maker relating to hanging branches, ie ones that have fallen off but are caught up. We’ve got three in the backyard at the moment. I poked at one the other day to see if I could make it dislodge, but it was resolute. I think if I threw a rope over it I might be able to persuade it down. The other two are far too high up. I just need to be aware of them.

When I see “widow maker” I visualise some ginormous flooded gums in the bottom paddock.. look perfectly sound on one side but have been burnt out up the guts when viewed from the other side.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

Apparently it is because the tree senses that it won’t be able to sustain all limbs and branches, so it stays ahead of the game. Nothing dies and falls off. It just lets it go, but I could be wrong because that was told to me a long time ago.

Sometimes it could be dry rot or weakening from termites but often as nnot, the plant simply drops it. Lets it go.

yep. the regnans do that. It’s like the summer deciduous thing. leaves and branches get shed and new growth happens.

The redgums in the backyard here must be growing…we have just entered bark shedding. (We’ve been in leaf shedding for months) Like a snake, changing its skin. I don’t mind really. I gather the bark, break it up and use it for mulch.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

Now that i think about it, it is the tallest tree in the park ( i can see the upper half of it from the window where i’m sitting, over the top of neighbouring houses).

But, given the local topography, i doubt that it ever has seen or ever will see a flood.

I think of the term widow maker relating to hanging branches, ie ones that have fallen off but are caught up. We’ve got three in the backyard at the moment. I poked at one the other day to see if I could make it dislodge, but it was resolute. I think if I threw a rope over it I might be able to persuade it down. The other two are far too high up. I just need to be aware of them.

You are correct buffy. Yes. the widow maker is the hung up branch that is just waiting for you to walk under it.

hung up branches is one definition. another is stress related where the tree sheds branches to conserve water.

Spiny Norman said:

why can’t we have both?

Spiny Norman said:

Kind of seems some context is missing

Bogsnorkler said:

Spiny Norman said:

why can’t we have both?

because if you can identify it as Hitler then uh

dv said:

Spiny Norman said:

Kind of seems some context is missing

You don’t understand memes. You have to sit there for hours trying to work them out.
One bloke here post memes that are really obscure and……………oh…………never mind.

This meme literally created itself. It’s meme genesis. Pretty soon they will be organising themselves into societies.

This meme literally created itself. It’s meme genesis. Pretty soon they will be organising themselves into societies.

Bogsnorkler said:

twice

Kothos said:

This meme literally created itself. It’s meme genesis. Pretty soon they will be organising themselves into societies.

I think it should be expanded to other forms of theatre. I reckon Hamlet will go down vs Laertes in the first round.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Spiny Norman said:

Kind of seems some context is missing

You don’t understand memes. You have to sit there for hours trying to work them out.
One bloke here post memes that are really obscure and……………oh…………never mind.

Yeah. Like one of these. Stare at it for hours, even days, and you still won’t get it.

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Kind of seems some context is missing

You don’t understand memes. You have to sit there for hours trying to work them out.
One bloke here post memes that are really obscure and……………oh…………never mind.

Yeah. Like one of these. Stare at it for hours, even days, and you still won’t get it.

Opal. ;)

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Kind of seems some context is missing

You don’t understand memes. You have to sit there for hours trying to work them out.
One bloke here post memes that are really obscure and……………oh…………never mind.

Yeah. Like one of these. Stare at it for hours, even days, and you still won’t get it.

I see a marlin, another fish (possibly a salmon) and a turtle

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Spiny Norman said:

Kind of seems some context is missing

You don’t understand memes. You have to sit there for hours trying to work them out.
One bloke here post memes that are really obscure and……………oh…………never mind.

I think this meme would make sense if they put a History Channel logo on the dude’s shirt or something. I need things explained properly.

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You don’t understand memes. You have to sit there for hours trying to work them out.
One bloke here post memes that are really obscure and……………oh…………never mind.

Yeah. Like one of these. Stare at it for hours, even days, and you still won’t get it.

Opal. ;)

Meow-Ludo Disco Gamma Meow-Meow

Australia is expected to buy up to five Virginia-class nuclear submarines from the United States under the AUKUS pact, defying repeated warnings that US shipyards were stretched to full capacity and could not sell any boats to Australia.

In the longer term, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese is set to announce Australia will acquire a fleet of nuclear-powered submarines based primarily on a new British design in a major victory for his British counterpart Rishi Sunak.

Read more:

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/australia-to-buy-us-nuclear-submarines-to-fill-capability-gap-20230309-p5cqoh.html

…

Yeah let’s get four of each. That’s great idea.

shakes head

dv said:

I need things explained properly.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Spiny Norman said:

Kind of seems some context is missing

You don’t understand memes. You have to sit there for hours trying to work them out.
One bloke here post memes that are really obscure and……………oh…………never mind.

LOLOL

Bogsnorkler said:

:)

dv said:

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You don’t understand memes. You have to sit there for hours trying to work them out.
One bloke here post memes that are really obscure and……………oh…………never mind.

Yeah. Like one of these. Stare at it for hours, even days, and you still won’t get it.

I see a marlin, another fish (possibly a salmon) and a turtle

I can make it pop 3D, but I’m not sure what I am supposed to see. There are some seahorses in the “behind” bit in the middle but a bit to the right. I can see what you are calling a marlin at the top. The bottom “window” doesn’t seem to have anything in it, it’s just “behind” the rest.

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You don’t understand memes. You have to sit there for hours trying to work them out.
One bloke here post memes that are really obscure and……………oh…………never mind.

Yeah. Like one of these. Stare at it for hours, even days, and you still won’t get it.

Opal. ;)

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Kind of seems some context is missing

You don’t understand memes. You have to sit there for hours trying to work them out.
One bloke here post memes that are really obscure and……………oh…………never mind.

Yeah. Like one of these. Stare at it for hours, even days, and you still won’t get it.

Is that because it’s fake?

Kothos said:

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You don’t understand memes. You have to sit there for hours trying to work them out.
One bloke here post memes that are really obscure and……………oh…………never mind.

Yeah. Like one of these. Stare at it for hours, even days, and you still won’t get it.

Is that because it’s fake?

It’s a normal well-made autostereogram.

Rev Daniel Brereton is an Anglican minister in Canada.

Kingy said:

Heh.

Kingy said:

LOLOLOLOL

Kingy said:

lol

fsm said:

I dig the steering wheel.

fsm said:

Phoaw!! you don’t see steering wheels like that on computers anymore.

Peak Warming Man said:

fsm said:

Phoaw!! you don’t see steering wheels like that on computers anymore.

Yeah. I was looking for the dual Mercury outboards.

roughbarked said:

fsm said:

I dig the steering wheel.

i remember being in a meeting where we told that in the near future the mainframe wouldn’t be doing revenue work but would be mostly connecting small computers on the desktop in people’s homes to commercial sites and other users. we were skeptical. even though at the time I used to borrow a portable terminal on the weekends and go home and play star trek.

fsm said:

That’s a fake. The photo is of a submarine control room, with the man at left photoshopped in. See https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/1954-home-computer/.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIzgMchcDgI

Link

Consolidated B-24H Liberator- Highly Detailed Metal Model- 1:20 Scale- Total Scratch Built

rojas bazan

model making at its finest.

btm said:

fsm said:

That’s a fake. The photo is of a submarine control room, with the man at left photoshopped in. See https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/1954-home-computer/.

>man at left photoshopped in

Not to mention that TV set floating around at top right.

fsm said:

Why does it have a ships wheel? Where are they going to steer it?

Kothos said:

fsm said:

Why does it have a ships wheel? Where are they going to steer it?

Early form of computer mouse

Kothos said:

fsm said:

Why does it have a ships wheel? Where are they going to steer it?

that’s for the fast and furious driving program.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

fsm said:

I dig the steering wheel.

i remember being in a meeting where we told that in the near future the mainframe wouldn’t be doing revenue work but would be mostly connecting small computers on the desktop in people’s homes to commercial sites and other users. we were skeptical. even though at the time I used to borrow a portable terminal on the weekends and go home and play star trek.

I’m always skeptical of a lot of stuff, but then it often happens.

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIzgMchcDgI

Link

Consolidated B-24H Liberator- Highly Detailed Metal Model- 1:20 Scale- Total Scratch Built

rojas bazan

model making at its finest.

OMG!

Kothos said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIzgMchcDgI

Link

Consolidated B-24H Liberator- Highly Detailed Metal Model- 1:20 Scale- Total Scratch Built

rojas bazan

model making at its finest.

OMG!

yes. All his models are like that. only hand tools.

Cymek said:

Kothos said:

fsm said:

Why does it have a ships wheel? Where are they going to steer it?

Early form of computer mouse

Seriously? WhyTF is it so big?

Kothos said:

fsm said:

Why does it have a ships wheel? Where are they going to steer it?

Up around the bend

roughbarked said:

Kothos said:

fsm said:

Why does it have a ships wheel? Where are they going to steer it?

Up around the bend

Nice.

Ian said:

∅

ahahahahahahahahahhhahahahahhaa

Peak Warming Man said:

Ian said:

They like a drink, anything fermented and then the drink and fly and become a menace.

I remember once seeing a flock?? group?? of cockies get pissed off the fermented fruit after alot of rain off Moreton bay figs when i was a kid working at the botanic gardens. them fuckers would hang upside down and just drop and only fly up at the last second…. mostly….. then they would try to eat all the stuff out from the glazing of the hot houses.

good times

Well I did not know that this was a real thing.

The movie, Cocaine Bear – It is loosely inspired by the true story of the “Cocaine Bear”, an American black bear that ingested nearly 75 lbs (34 kg) of lost cocaine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_Bear

Spiny Norman said:

lol

buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

Sometimes it could be dry rot or weakening from termites but often as nnot, the plant simply drops it. Lets it go.

yep. the regnans do that. It’s like the summer deciduous thing. leaves and branches get shed and new growth happens.

The redgums in the backyard here must be growing…we have just entered bark shedding. (We’ve been in leaf shedding for months) Like a snake, changing its skin. I don’t mind really. I gather the bark, break it up and use it for mulch.

Aren’t the colours amazing? One red gum here is shedding it’s bark and the colour is just great to stand and look at.

ScarlettaPimpernella said:

buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

yep. the regnans do that. It’s like the summer deciduous thing. leaves and branches get shed and new growth happens.

The redgums in the backyard here must be growing…we have just entered bark shedding. (We’ve been in leaf shedding for months) Like a snake, changing its skin. I don’t mind really. I gather the bark, break it up and use it for mulch.

Aren’t the colours amazing? One red gum here is shedding it’s bark and the colour is just great to stand and look at.

Have you seen a Corymbia maculata (Spotted Gum) when it is shed and gets rained on? They are truly beautiful. Pictures of them in general don’t show the red that comes out on a wet trunk. I haven’t got a picture, but we had one when we lived at Hawkesdale which I could admire from the kitchen window. This is just a random picture of one.

Have you seen a spotted gum when it is shed and rained on?

ScarlettaPimpernella said:

:)

Michael V said:

ScarlettaPimpernella said:

:)

why is it in dump position though

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

ScarlettaPimpernella said:

:)

why is it in dump position though

It isn’t. Look at the tail.

buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

:)

why is it in dump position though

It isn’t. Look at the tail.

oh c’m‘on cous’ why let the facts stand in the way of a fun