well it’s that time of year again but let’s start with Anything But COVID-19 just for fun
good shit
Why not, right¿
First, make everyone poor.
Then, pay them to get infected¡
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/infectious-disease/research/human-challenge/covhic002/
We are looking for healthy volunteers aged 18-30 years old to take part in a new COVID-19 Human Challenge Study. The study involves a screening visit, a quarantine stay, during which you will be deliberately infected with the COVID-19 virus and carefully monitored until discharge, followed by five follow-up visits over the course of 12 months. If you are eligible to take part, you will be paid up to £4,470 for time and inconvenience.
wait
oh fuck
wait
no
hear from another troll
we thought it was over
I reads all them above^ in da fred, yeah did
the fuckup of a pandemic response, all them words helps you normalize derrr, even the inverted covidmongering
it’s a twisted fuckedup human world
transition said:
I reads all them above^ in da fred, yeah didthe fuckup of a pandemic response, all them words helps you normalize derrr, even the inverted covidmongering
it’s a twisted fuckedup human world
***nods***
For Spockie:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2023-02-22/new-pfizer-bivalent-covid-vaccine-available-march/101999092
Michael V said:
For Spockie:https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2023-02-22/new-pfizer-bivalent-covid-vaccine-available-march/101999092
Go raibh maith agat Michael V!
Given the “imminent availability” of the BA.4/5 booster, Professor Nolan said he believed it was potentially worth holding on for.
Interesting!
Spiny Norman had a 5th and was quite poorly for a couple of days!
LOL
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/london-times-bullied-into-health/
but wait there’s more
To persuade the government to act, Chadwick argued that the poor conditions endured by impoverished and ailing labourers were preventing them from working efficiently.
good to see that we’ve made so much progress in 200 years
not
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-03-01/ovine-johnes-spreads-northern-nsw/102037454
The often fatal Ovine Johne’s Disease (OJD) is now considered endemic across NSW after its detection on the Northern Tablelands. Local Land Services (LLS) has advised sheep producers to be on the lookout for signs of the bacterial infection in their flocks and to vaccinate stock as there is no treatment or cure. With the disease now endemic across the state, Dr Parsons said it was something sheep producers would have to “learn to live with”. “If Johne’s remains unchecked in a flock, about 10 per cent of adult sheep per year can die from it.” Jillian Kelly, a vet and animal health and nutrition consultant from Coonamble, said the spread of OJD was unsurprising following the reduction in the use of risk assessment tools for sheep producers.
Is that a cold or COVID?: How to handle awkward conversations
well there’s your problem right there, we thought it was just a mild cold so we guess it’s a logically awkward conversation
SCIENCE said:
Is that a cold or COVID?: How to handle awkward conversations
well there’s your problem right there, we thought it was just a mild cold so we guess it’s a logically awkward conversation
with it so prevalent, asymptomatic infections, and long covid symptoms, it’s like trying to separate the oxygen in air from the nitrogen and carbon dioxide, a lot of people are that interested, the proposition of giving a fuck about covid has a similar appeal
fortunately minds are invisible also, so easy fixed
what are they trying to distract from
and this is STEMocracy oh wait
guess it isn’t
fuck
Is there anyone out there (reading) that hasn’t had covid yet? I feel like I’m part of a priveleged and shrinking club.
Neddles and I have managed to steer clear – but possibly due to lifestyle changes…most of the shopping is ordered online/home-delivered, and we don’t go out an awful lot…and when we do, it’s masks on wherever we go.
becklefreckle said:
Is there anyone out there (reading) that hasn’t had covid yet? I feel like I’m part of a priveleged and shrinking club.
I’ve had no covid so far. The Ross sister and her husband have had a bout, as has my youngest nephew (Ross sister’s son, a childcare worker who probably spread it to his mum & partner), but the rest of the Tas and Oz family remain covid-free.
Good news. I haven’t been particularly careful, but living in a small town probably protects me. As well as being a natural hermit…
becklefreckle said:
Good news. I haven’t been particularly careful, but living in a small town probably protects me. As well as being a natural hermit…
Mr buffy and I have not had it that we know of. As I mentioned last time someone in here asked this question, it’s possible we’ve had a some sort of silent version with no symptoms I suppose. But we also live in a small town. I can’t say we bother with masks. Even when we had to, most of the walkers around here just carried it and put it on when you saw another walker – generally from 100m away or so. I had to wear a mask a couple of weeks ago to take my neighbour to see her specialist because she wanted me to go in with her. It was an odd experience as I hadn’t worn one for months and months. (Partly because I used home made cloth masks and the clinic required a blue surgical mask. I had to think about how to wear the thing. They are quite hot to wear for a head sweater. I was going to use an N95 we’ve got here, but I trialled it before going and that was really, really hot to wear. Sweating around the top lip etc for the three hours we were at the clinic would have been problematic) A few people are wearing them in the supermarket in Hamilton, but very much a minority. At our little local bakery you know who works at the local nursing home because they come in after shift with their mask still on and then remember they don’t need it because they aren’t at work now.
buffy said:
becklefreckle said:
Good news. I haven’t been particularly careful, but living in a small town probably protects me. As well as being a natural hermit…
Mr buffy and I have not had it that we know of. As I mentioned last time someone in here asked this question, it’s possible we’ve had a some sort of silent version with no symptoms I suppose. But we also live in a small town. I can’t say we bother with masks. Even when we had to, most of the walkers around here just carried it and put it on when you saw another walker – generally from 100m away or so. I had to wear a mask a couple of weeks ago to take my neighbour to see her specialist because she wanted me to go in with her. It was an odd experience as I hadn’t worn one for months and months. (Partly because I used home made cloth masks and the clinic required a blue surgical mask. I had to think about how to wear the thing. They are quite hot to wear for a head sweater. I was going to use an N95 we’ve got here, but I trialled it before going and that was really, really hot to wear. Sweating around the top lip etc for the three hours we were at the clinic would have been problematic) A few people are wearing them in the supermarket in Hamilton, but very much a minority. At our little local bakery you know who works at the local nursing home because they come in after shift with their mask still on and then remember they don’t need it because they aren’t at work now.
I was surprised at the GP’s a couple of days back when I walked in, there were maybe two masked people in the waiting room and none of the staff behind the desk had masks on. So I asked. The answer was, “it is optional”.
SCIENCE said:
and this is STEMocracy oh wait
guess it isn’t
fuck
dear God, why bother conceptually resolving something to a part of 100
bangs head on wall
SCIENCE said:
what are they trying to distract from
possibly an effective distractional device, takes your eyes off the intentionalized mass dispersion of a crippling airborne pathogen by the vehicles of freedom, all helps with not letting a good disaster go to waste, opportunity maybe to reset conscience, perhaps even detach human conscience from anything near reality
and imagine, consider the situation, that human culture evolved to take advantage of disaster and misfortune, that a creeping universal appeal to narcissistic tendencies emerged, with the help of machines that had a depreciated concept of the necessity for inhibition, inhibiting anything
you might forget that every moment of your wakeful life involves preventing myriad things from happening, same of sleep you might forget why you sleep
how could liberty and freedom be constituted of mostly things that were prevented from happening, it surely is preferably in what couldn’t be known, rather in only that physically apparent
and so you came to secretly love disaster, problems of a global scale, that require answers of a similar scale, and if responsibility could be diluted on a similar scale to be most effective, then it will, inevitably
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
becklefreckle said:
Good news. I haven’t been particularly careful, but living in a small town probably protects me. As well as being a natural hermit…
Mr buffy and I have not had it that we know of. As I mentioned last time someone in here asked this question, it’s possible we’ve had a some sort of silent version with no symptoms I suppose. But we also live in a small town. I can’t say we bother with masks. Even when we had to, most of the walkers around here just carried it and put it on when you saw another walker – generally from 100m away or so. I had to wear a mask a couple of weeks ago to take my neighbour to see her specialist because she wanted me to go in with her. It was an odd experience as I hadn’t worn one for months and months. (Partly because I used home made cloth masks and the clinic required a blue surgical mask. I had to think about how to wear the thing. They are quite hot to wear for a head sweater. I was going to use an N95 we’ve got here, but I trialled it before going and that was really, really hot to wear. Sweating around the top lip etc for the three hours we were at the clinic would have been problematic) A few people are wearing them in the supermarket in Hamilton, but very much a minority. At our little local bakery you know who works at the local nursing home because they come in after shift with their mask still on and then remember they don’t need it because they aren’t at work now.
I was surprised at the GP’s a couple of days back when I walked in, there were maybe two masked people in the waiting room and none of the staff behind the desk had masks on. So I asked. The answer was, “it is optional”.
I haven’t been to the GPs for ages. But Auntie Annie and I were at specialists rooms with vulnerable people the week before last so I knew masks would be necessary. Auntie Annie doesn’t wear a mask. She can barely breathe anyway, she’d be passing out with a mask on.
LOL
Worse than the garden variety stagflation the world endured through much of the 1970s and early 1980s, Dr Roubini expects this to evolve into a “great stagflationary debt crisis” — combining some of the worst elements of the 70s with the global financial crisis. “Now we’re facing the perfect storm — inflation, recession, stagflation and a potential debt crisis,” he warned.
we love how the pretence is that these two aspects are unrelated
Still over 2,000 new cases a day in Australia.
I think I’ll keep my mask on while shopping.
Australia still one of the top countries for new cases per day.
Total cases per day per million people.
Australia is the 118th worst country in the world in terms of deaths per capita by official stats, but given a) the fact that most countries have either stopped properly testing or reporting or have never done proper testing or reporting and b) the big gaps between official deaths and excess deaths in almost the entire world except Australia and NZ, I think it’s probably more like 140th.
Still we are incurring about 7 additional deaths per day.
dv said:
Australia is the 118th worst country in the world in terms of deaths per capita by official stats, but given a) the fact that most countries have either stopped properly testing or reporting or have never done proper testing or reporting and b) the big gaps between official deaths and excess deaths in almost the entire world except Australia and NZ, I think it’s probably more like 140th.Still we are incurring about 7 additional deaths per day.
So not the mildest of flus then?
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Australia is the 118th worst country in the world in terms of deaths per capita by official stats, but given a) the fact that most countries have either stopped properly testing or reporting or have never done proper testing or reporting and b) the big gaps between official deaths and excess deaths in almost the entire world except Australia and NZ, I think it’s probably more like 140th.Still we are incurring about 7 additional deaths per day.
So not the mildest of flus then?
we should compare it to the imminent avian influenza hellscape
hey remember when the media were trying to spin a little tiff between adult women into some kind of political assassination
wait
we have no hieroglyphs
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Australia is the 118th worst country in the world in terms of deaths per capita by official stats, but given a) the fact that most countries have either stopped properly testing or reporting or have never done proper testing or reporting and b) the big gaps between official deaths and excess deaths in almost the entire world except Australia and NZ, I think it’s probably more like 140th.
Still we are incurring about 7 additional deaths per day.
So not the mildest of flus then?
we should compare it to the imminent avian influenza hellscape
hey this should be exciting
In town today I noticed that both Officeworks and Aldi had removed their Covid related transparent screens at the cashiers.
Witty Rejoinder said:
In town today I noticed that both Officeworks and Aldi had removed their Covid related transparent screens at the cashiers.
They disappeared from the supermarkets ages ago. I can’t think of anywhere here that still has them, actually.
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
In town today I noticed that both Officeworks and Aldi had removed their Covid related transparent screens at the cashiers.
They disappeared from the supermarkets ages ago. I can’t think of anywhere here that still has them, actually.
Hmmm… I don’t think my Coles ever had them for the human cashiers though I never use them so I might just be having a senior’s moment. They still have the lateral ones in the self service kiosks.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
So not the mildest of flus then?
we should compare it to the imminent avian influenza hellscape
hey this should be exciting
China “This time world we will be open and tell everyone what’s happening”
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
In town today I noticed that both Officeworks and Aldi had removed their Covid related transparent screens at the cashiers.
They disappeared from the supermarkets ages ago. I can’t think of anywhere here that still has them, actually.
Do they annoy people in general I wonder could be useful perhaps for slowing down the spread of colds and flu’s and anti spit guard as well
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
we should compare it to the imminent avian influenza hellscape
hey this should be exciting
China “This time world we will be open and tell everyone what’s happening”
“This Time No Lockdown We Will Accelerate The Inferno And Ember Attack You First”
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
we should compare it to the imminent avian influenza hellscape
hey this should be exciting
China “This time world we will be open and tell everyone what’s happening”
have some bird flu on top of your covid, should work a treat
The it came from a lab has re-awoken I see via the FBI
Wonder what the reaction from the world would be if it was true, kind of just have to wear it wouldn’t we.
Cymek said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
what are they trying to distract from
possibly an effective distractional device, takes your eyes off the intentionalized mass dispersion of a crippling airborne pathogen by the vehicles of freedom, all helps with not letting a good disaster go to waste, opportunity maybe to reset conscience, perhaps even detach human conscience from anything near reality
and imagine, consider the situation, that human culture evolved to take advantage of disaster and misfortune, that a creeping universal appeal to narcissistic tendencies emerged, with the help of machines that had a depreciated concept of the necessity for inhibition, inhibiting anything
you might forget that every moment of your wakeful life involves preventing myriad things from happening, same of sleep you might forget why you sleep
how could liberty and freedom be constituted of mostly things that were prevented from happening, it surely is preferably in what couldn’t be known, rather in only that physically apparent
and so you came to secretly love disaster, problems of a global scale, that require answers of a similar scale, and if responsibility could be diluted on a similar scale to be most effective, then it will, inevitably
The it came from a lab has re-awoken I see via the FBI
Wonder what the reaction from the world would be if it was true, kind of just have to wear it wouldn’t we.
we already know what the reaction is regardless
The Economy Must Grow
Cymek said:
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
In town today I noticed that both Officeworks and Aldi had removed their Covid related transparent screens at the cashiers.
They disappeared from the supermarkets ages ago. I can’t think of anywhere here that still has them, actually.
Do they annoy people in general I wonder could be useful perhaps for slowing down the spread of colds and flu’s and anti spit guard as well
They are annoying for the hard of hearing. Especially when they were in conjunction with masks.
Cymek said:
The it came from a lab has re-awoken I see via the FBI
Wonder what the reaction from the world would be if it was true, kind of just have to wear it wouldn’t we.
doesn’t matter really, true or not, the background of speculation though does a good job at distracting from the implications of intentionalized acceptance of transmission and prolific infection
Haircut done.
!3 dorrah and I give him 15 dorrah and he doffs his cap and says thank yee sir thank yee.
The thing is he’d buy and sell me many times over, it’s all a game.
The thing is I didn’t want to pollute the Chat thread with inconsequential personal stuff.
Peak Warming Man said:
Haircut done.
!3 dorrah and I give him 15 dorrah and he doffs his cap and says thank yee sir thank yee.
The thing is he’d buy and sell me many times over, it’s all a game.
Barbers would make a reasonable living I imagine, not weather girl rich but decent income, overheads not too bad compared to a lot of business
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-03/tuberculosis-outbreak-on-apy-lands/102051520
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-03-01/ovine-johnes-spreads-northern-nsw/102037454
The often fatal Ovine Johne’s Disease (OJD) is now considered endemic across NSW after its detection on the Northern Tablelands. Local Land Services (LLS) has advised sheep producers to be on the lookout for signs of the bacterial infection in their flocks and to vaccinate stock as there is no treatment or cure. With the disease now endemic across the state, Dr Parsons said it was something sheep producers would have to “learn to live with”. “If Johne’s remains unchecked in a flock, about 10 per cent of adult sheep per year can die from it.” Jillian Kelly, a vet and animal health and nutrition consultant from Coonamble, said the spread of OJD was unsurprising following the reduction in the use of risk assessment tools for sheep producers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-03/tuberculosis-outbreak-on-apy-lands/102051520
holy fuck well the alarmists were claiming that SARACAIDS-CoV caused CAID so
damn
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-03-01/ovine-johnes-spreads-northern-nsw/102037454
The often fatal Ovine Johne’s Disease (OJD) is now considered endemic across NSW after its detection on the Northern Tablelands. Local Land Services (LLS) has advised sheep producers to be on the lookout for signs of the bacterial infection in their flocks and to vaccinate stock as there is no treatment or cure. With the disease now endemic across the state, Dr Parsons said it was something sheep producers would have to “learn to live with”. “If Johne’s remains unchecked in a flock, about 10 per cent of adult sheep per year can die from it.” Jillian Kelly, a vet and animal health and nutrition consultant from Coonamble, said the spread of OJD was unsurprising following the reduction in the use of risk assessment tools for sheep producers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-03/tuberculosis-outbreak-on-apy-lands/102051520
holy fuck well the alarmists were claiming that SARACAIDS-CoV caused CAID so
damn
sorry we’ll also be the arseholes and point out a few things yousall already know and didn’t want to hear over and over again and again but whatever
“Tuberculosis is not commonly seen in Australia but is treatable and preventable. It will need a sustained response over a prolonged period,” she said.
hint: again, not mentioned in article
gee let’s see, is there something that could interrupt its spread, its transmission, based on its mode
TB is caused by a bacteria called Mycobacterium tuberculosis, which usually infects the lungs and spreads through the air when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
wait what
However, WHO found far fewer people were newly diagnosed with TB in 2020, attributed to a drop in global efforts against TB as attention and funding were diverted to prevent the spread of COVID-19.
oh what the fuck, imagine if there were 2 (two) (2!) diseases we wanted to prevent, that spread kind of the same way, that the same simple preventative measure could stop ¿¡
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-03/tuberculosis-outbreak-on-apy-lands/102051520
holy fuck well the alarmists were claiming that SARACAIDS-CoV caused CAID so
damn
sorry we’ll also be the arseholes and point out a few things yousall already know and didn’t want to hear over and over again and again but whatever
“Tuberculosis is not commonly seen in Australia but is treatable and preventable. It will need a sustained response over a prolonged period,” she said.
- “treatable”, for now, before stupidity yields totally drug resistant tuberculosis and then we’ll party
- “preventable” eh, how we wonder
hint: again, not mentioned in article
gee let’s see, is there something that could interrupt its spread, its transmission, based on its mode
TB is caused by a bacteria called Mycobacterium tuberculosis, which usually infects the lungs and spreads through the air when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
wait what
However, WHO found far fewer people were newly diagnosed with TB in 2020, attributed to a drop in global efforts against TB as attention and funding were diverted to prevent the spread of COVID-19.
oh what the fuck, imagine if there were 2 (two) (2!) diseases we wanted to prevent, that spread kind of the same way, that the same simple preventative measure could stop ¿¡
Three at least. Influenza. Especially this new one…
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
holy fuck well the alarmists were claiming that SARACAIDS-CoV caused CAID so
damn
sorry we’ll also be the arseholes and point out a few things yousall already know and didn’t want to hear over and over again and again but whatever
“Tuberculosis is not commonly seen in Australia but is treatable and preventable. It will need a sustained response over a prolonged period,” she said.
- “treatable”, for now, before stupidity yields totally drug resistant tuberculosis and then we’ll party
- “preventable” eh, how we wonder
hint: again, not mentioned in article
gee let’s see, is there something that could interrupt its spread, its transmission, based on its mode
TB is caused by a bacteria called Mycobacterium tuberculosis, which usually infects the lungs and spreads through the air when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
wait what
However, WHO found far fewer people were newly diagnosed with TB in 2020, attributed to a drop in global efforts against TB as attention and funding were diverted to prevent the spread of COVID-19.
oh what the fuck, imagine if there were 2 (two) (2!) diseases we wanted to prevent, that spread kind of the same way, that the same simple preventative measure could stop ¿¡
Three at least. Influenza. Especially this new one…
You might as well read about this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encephalitis_lethargica
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:sorry we’ll also be the arseholes and point out a few things yousall already know and didn’t want to hear over and over again and again but whatever
“Tuberculosis is not commonly seen in Australia but is treatable and preventable. It will need a sustained response over a prolonged period,” she said.
- “treatable”, for now, before stupidity yields totally drug resistant tuberculosis and then we’ll party
- “preventable” eh, how we wonder
hint: again, not mentioned in article
gee let’s see, is there something that could interrupt its spread, its transmission, based on its mode
TB is caused by a bacteria called Mycobacterium tuberculosis, which usually infects the lungs and spreads through the air when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
wait what
However, WHO found far fewer people were newly diagnosed with TB in 2020, attributed to a drop in global efforts against TB as attention and funding were diverted to prevent the spread of COVID-19.
oh what the fuck, imagine if there were 2 (two) (2!) diseases we wanted to prevent, that spread kind of the same way, that the same simple preventative measure could stop ¿¡
Three at least. Influenza. Especially this new one…
You might as well read about this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encephalitis_lethargica
I am obviously going to have to learn to swear in Irish! EGADS!
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-03-01/ovine-johnes-spreads-northern-nsw/102037454
The often fatal Ovine Johne’s Disease (OJD) is now considered endemic across NSW after its detection on the Northern Tablelands. Local Land Services (LLS) has advised sheep producers to be on the lookout for signs of the bacterial infection in their flocks and to vaccinate stock as there is no treatment or cure. With the disease now endemic across the state, Dr Parsons said it was something sheep producers would have to “learn to live with”. “If Johne’s remains unchecked in a flock, about 10 per cent of adult sheep per year can die from it.” Jillian Kelly, a vet and animal health and nutrition consultant from Coonamble, said the spread of OJD was unsurprising following the reduction in the use of risk assessment tools for sheep producers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-03/tuberculosis-outbreak-on-apy-lands/102051520
holy fuck well the alarmists were claiming that SARACAIDS-CoV caused CAID so
damn
That’s really heart breaking!
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
holy fuck well the alarmists were claiming that SARACAIDS-CoV caused CAID so
damn
sorry we’ll also be the arseholes and point out a few things yousall already know and didn’t want to hear over and over again and again but whatever
“Tuberculosis is not commonly seen in Australia but is treatable and preventable. It will need a sustained response over a prolonged period,” she said.
- “treatable”, for now, before stupidity yields totally drug resistant tuberculosis and then we’ll party
- “preventable” eh, how we wonder
hint: again, not mentioned in article
gee let’s see, is there something that could interrupt its spread, its transmission, based on its mode
TB is caused by a bacteria called Mycobacterium tuberculosis, which usually infects the lungs and spreads through the air when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
wait what
However, WHO found far fewer people were newly diagnosed with TB in 2020, attributed to a drop in global efforts against TB as attention and funding were diverted to prevent the spread of COVID-19.
oh what the fuck, imagine if there were 2 (two) (2!) diseases we wanted to prevent, that spread kind of the same way, that the same simple preventative measure could stop ¿¡
Three at least. Influenza. Especially this new one…
so we should actually call all this a confluenza
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
PermeateFree said:
Bubblecar said:
PermeateFree said:
Do you really think there is no mutual gratification between people like Murdoch and governments like the LNP. Now that IS interesting.
Stop being silly. You’re pretending I hold ludicrous views that you know I don’t hold.
People with power like to use it and those at the receiving end are very grateful.
Western media is a bit smarter/surreptitious in they convince the masses to believe in people/decisions/laws that go against their own interests even praise those that implement them.
Another conspiracy?
Trump would be a prime example, he’s a horrible person with policies and ideas that go against the interests of the people who support him.
Media organisations owned by people who think like him promote him
Are we to ban media organisations from advocating certain positions?
No but believing our media is honest and above board isn’t true.
LOL but they insist
I’m not a conspiracy nut but do think society works in way to benefit a few, setup that way over decades using various means.
It’s considered that’s how its done in most places to borrow money to own a house so you can go to work so you can afford a house.
Borrowing money to basically live.
Next you’ll be saying you were forced to marry and have kids to live in a house you never wanted.
Do you not think many things are set up with loopholes to get people out of taking responsibility for things they have done.
All the coverups over health concerns, pollution, testing on people without consent, exploitation of anything and everything.
Outright lies from government and industry over various concerns people have.
Like we mentioned a leader can decided to go to war, invade, destroy infrastructure, kill large numbers of civilians and depending on who it is, that’s OK
It’s the nature of the world: both good and bad. It is however better now than it ever has been and is slowly getting better because of the actions of those who make it their responsibility for the sake of their children and grandchildren.
I do think that healthy straight white males living in Australia complaining about the injustices of life all the time probably need to get some perspective.
Fair point, I’m not complaining about how it is for just me but just the world in general, Australia would be one of the best places to live.
It just seems extremely hard to do the correct thing for life and the planet with many things set up to prevent it
all good comrade, just remember that when the agents from elsewhere are telling you how good you have it, and promising that things naturally just get better so STFU stop whinging just let the people who know what they’re doing carry on running the place
wait what
does it
even
mean
oh shit someone else noticed
but wait who is this someone
I’m an independent healthcare analyst with over 22 years of experience analyzing healthcare and pharmaceuticals. Specifically, I analyze the value (costs and benefits) of biologics and pharmaceuticals, patient access to prescription drugs, the regulatory framework for drug development and reimbursement, and ethics with respect to the distribution of healthcare resources.
well that would explain this line
In sum, the Covid-19 pandemic has led to global increases in mortality and declines in period life expectancy that are without precedent in modern times. Historically, countries have generally recovered within two years from mortality shocks, such as the 1918-20 influenza pandemic and the two world wars. And so, we can expect many countries to soon return to pre-Covid-19-pandemic life expectancy. However, each country’s ability to bounce back differs, and some, like the U.S., will likely have more trouble than others because of underlying health trends that had been in place before the pandemic.
so you see, apparently the correct way to predict what happens to LIFE is to blindly copy forward past notches in the life expectancy trends
and not to consider the mechanism by which they occur, and whether or not that gives the same or a different answer
(chain extracted from https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/16388/ thread)
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
UK government ministers did not understand their own Covid lockdown rules
or even percentages
https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/2001612/
https://twitter.com/Kit_Yates_Maths/status/1631573729770631168
well look not everyone is privileged enough to be like ASIANS and study STEM all day
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Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
sorry we’ll also be the arseholes and point out a few things yousall already know and didn’t want to hear over and over again and again but whatever
“Tuberculosis is not commonly seen in Australia but is treatable and preventable. It will need a sustained response over a prolonged period,” she said.
- “treatable”, for now, before stupidity yields totally drug resistant tuberculosis and then we’ll party
- “preventable” eh, how we wonder
hint: again, not mentioned in article
gee let’s see, is there something that could interrupt its spread, its transmission, based on its mode
TB is caused by a bacteria called Mycobacterium tuberculosis, which usually infects the lungs and spreads through the air when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
wait what
However, WHO found far fewer people were newly diagnosed with TB in 2020, attributed to a drop in global efforts against TB as attention and funding were diverted to prevent the spread of COVID-19.
oh what the fuck, imagine if there were 2 (two) (2!) diseases we wanted to prevent, that spread kind of the same way, that the same simple preventative measure could stop ¿¡
Three at least. Influenza. Especially this new one…
so we should actually call all this a confluenza
oh fuck
LOL
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama-health-forum/fullarticle/2802095
This case-control study leveraged a large commercial insurance database and found increased rates of adverse outcomes over a 1-year period for a PCC cohort surviving the acute phase of illness. The results indicate a need for continued monitoring for at-risk individuals, particularly in the area of cardiovascular and pulmonary management.
nah probably lies, fuck them insurance actuaries, they’re just out to make money from people dying
wait
oh wait
maybe the opposite
oh shit
oh
SCIENCE said:
LOL
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama-health-forum/fullarticle/2802095
One-Year Adverse Outcomes Among US Adults With Post–COVID-19 Condition vs Those Without COVID-19 in a Large Commercial Insurance Database
This case-control study leveraged a large commercial insurance database and found increased rates of adverse outcomes over a 1-year period for a PCC cohort surviving the acute phase of illness. The results indicate a need for continued monitoring for at-risk individuals, particularly in the area of cardiovascular and pulmonary management.
nah probably lies, fuck them insurance actuaries, they’re just out to make money from people dying
wait
oh wait
maybe the opposite
oh shit
oh
here, someone out there might be interested enough in the detail
In this case-control study of 13 435 US adults with post–COVID-19 condition (PCC) and 26 870 matched adults without COVID-19, the adults with PCC experienced increased risks for a number of cardiovascular outcomes, such as ischemic stroke. During the 12-month follow-up period, 2.8% of the individuals with PCC vs 1.2% of the individuals without COVID-19 died, implying an excess death rate of 16.4 per 1000 individuals.
⚠ disclaimer, this is not ASIAN SCIENCE or dark mhajyiques, this is literally Andrea DeVries, PhD1; Sonali Shambhu, BDS, MPH1; Sue Sloop, PhD1; J. Marc Overhage, MD, PhD1 | Author Affiliations Article Information | 1Elevance Health, Inc, Indianapolis, Indiana
LOL
did someone say tuberculosis
oh
how is all this suddenly happening at the same time
mysterious
SCIENCE said:
did someone say tuberculosis
oh
how is all this suddenly happening at the same time
mysterious
Money for ukraine, no money for basic health
wookiemeister said:
SCIENCE said:
did someone say tuberculosis
oh
how is all this suddenly happening at the same time
mysterious
They should have taken the opportunity to vaccinate for everything the last few years.
Money for ukraine, no money for basic health
we heard that a good sufficient dose of this
prevents all future disease for the recipient
SCIENCE said:
wookiemeister said:
SCIENCE said:
did someone say tuberculosis
oh
how is all this suddenly happening at the same time
mysterious
They should have taken the opportunity to vaccinate for everything the last few years.
Money for ukraine, no money for basic health
we heard that a good sufficient dose of this
prevents all future disease for the recipient
look like a steel casing AK etc round
and just reading this below, from above, writer’s got quite a sense of humor
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2022/05/01/washington-having-largest-tuberculosis-outbreak-in-20-years/?sh=1456fea4550b
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
wookiemeister said:
They should have taken the opportunity to vaccinate for everything the last few years.
Money for ukraine, no money for basic health
we heard that a good sufficient dose of this
prevents all future disease for the recipient
look like a steel casing AK etc round
and just reading this below, from above, writer’s got quite a sense of humor
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2022/05/01/washington-having-largest-tuberculosis-outbreak-in-20-years/?sh=1456fea4550b
sorry we should point out that it was a year ago, got trigger happy there for a bit
ahahahahahaha oh fuck
guess there’s a point at which it’s ridiculous to keep avoiding mentioning it
The Heart Foundation has also asked the federal government for heart health checks to be made available to everyone who has had a COVID-19 infection or is living with long COVID. The foundation said COVID-19 infection worsened pre-existing heart conditions and also increased the risk of developing more than 20 heart conditions including heart attack, blood clots, heart failure and stroke.
He said it was a concern to see healthy and young people develop cardiac complications after being infected with COVID-19. “It’s almost a canary in the coal mine,” Dr Kulasinghe said. “We are seeing that there are increasing complications that haven’t been seen before in previous pandemics, such as the flu.”
what a lying “expert” who probably knows fucking nothing
⚠ this post may contain satircynironastical elements
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahaha oh fuck
guess there’s a point at which it’s ridiculous to keep avoiding mentioning it
The Heart Foundation has also asked the federal government for heart health checks to be made available to everyone who has had a COVID-19 infection or is living with long COVID. The foundation said COVID-19 infection worsened pre-existing heart conditions and also increased the risk of developing more than 20 heart conditions including heart attack, blood clots, heart failure and stroke.
He said it was a concern to see healthy and young people develop cardiac complications after being infected with COVID-19. “It’s almost a canary in the coal mine,” Dr Kulasinghe said. “We are seeing that there are increasing complications that haven’t been seen before in previous pandemics, such as the flu.”
what a lying “expert” who probably knows fucking nothing
⚠ this post may contain satircynironastical elements
covid’s ya friend, finds the preexisting conditions, the vulnerabilities, the susceptibilities, almost got the status of a diagnostic tool
crosseyed derrr gets some darwinian medicine into ya
ms spock said:
In Australia we have the highest rate of incarceration of Indigeous people in the world. There’s a very detailed 4Corners on what happens to incarcerated Indigenous children. Worth a look.
You are an intriguing poster/forumite at times. I don’t understand what you are talking about here. However you are reading the Asian science on Covid or you have some very up to date resources.
we swear we answered this one fairly but can’t find it anyway to reiterate, we’ren’t reading anything that isn’t accessible to the public, we’re just doing it with a bias-minimising and solid-sciencing way
anyway also
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahaha oh fuck
guess there’s a point at which it’s ridiculous to keep avoiding mentioning it
The Heart Foundation has also asked the federal government for heart health checks to be made available to everyone who has had a COVID-19 infection or is living with long COVID. The foundation said COVID-19 infection worsened pre-existing heart conditions and also increased the risk of developing more than 20 heart conditions including heart attack, blood clots, heart failure and stroke.
He said it was a concern to see healthy and young people develop cardiac complications after being infected with COVID-19. “It’s almost a canary in the coal mine,” Dr Kulasinghe said. “We are seeing that there are increasing complications that haven’t been seen before in previous pandemics, such as the flu.”
what a lying “expert” who probably knows fucking nothing
⚠ this post may contain satircynironastical elements
covid’s ya friend, finds the preexisting conditions, the vulnerabilities, the susceptibilities, almost got the status of a diagnostic tool
crosseyed derrr gets some darwinian medicine into ya
oh well at least We Have The Tools to treat heart prob…
… uh we mean
LOL
you’re wrong, it wasn’t the lockdowns, it’s the masks
so-called “expert” who knows nothing
⚠ this post may contain sarcyntironastical elements
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Three at least. Influenza. Especially this new one…
so we should actually call all this a confluenza
oh fuck
oh nice
don’t worry it’s just a mild avian influenza, these alarmists are just being C… CHI…
…
chickens…
oh shit
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahaha oh fuck
guess there’s a point at which it’s ridiculous to keep avoiding mentioning it
The Heart Foundation has also asked the federal government for heart health checks to be made available to everyone who has had a COVID-19 infection or is living with long COVID. The foundation said COVID-19 infection worsened pre-existing heart conditions and also increased the risk of developing more than 20 heart conditions including heart attack, blood clots, heart failure and stroke.
He said it was a concern to see healthy and young people develop cardiac complications after being infected with COVID-19. “It’s almost a canary in the coal mine,” Dr Kulasinghe said. “We are seeing that there are increasing complications that haven’t been seen before in previous pandemics, such as the flu.”
what a lying “expert” who probably knows fucking nothing
⚠ this post may contain satircynironastical elements
covid’s ya friend, finds the preexisting conditions, the vulnerabilities, the susceptibilities, almost got the status of a diagnostic tool
crosseyed derrr gets some darwinian medicine into ya
oh well at least We Have The Tools to treat heart prob…
… uh we mean
just yousr irregular reminder to ensure that yousr own CPR training, and that of the people close to you, is up to date
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
so we should actually call all this a confluenza
oh fuck
oh nice
don’t worry it’s just a mild avian influenza, these alarmists are just being C… CHI…
…
chickens…
oh shit
cheery read, look forward to it enjoying unlimited airtravel, become properly more like a global citizen
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
covid’s ya friend, finds the preexisting conditions, the vulnerabilities, the susceptibilities, almost got the status of a diagnostic tool
crosseyed derrr gets some darwinian medicine into ya
oh well at least We Have The Tools to treat heart prob…
… uh we mean
just yousr irregular reminder to ensure that yousr own CPR training, and that of the people close to you, is up to date
no end to the troubles if you have an ear to them everywhere, no longer does the town crier ever reassure …..and all is well
An update on Science Girl, Dianna Cowern. She caught COVID in November last year I think, and has been suffering badly from long COVID ever since. She’s deteriorating quite rapidly. :(
Spiny Norman said:
An update on Science Girl, Dianna Cowern. She caught COVID in November last year I think, and has been suffering badly from long COVID ever since. She’s deteriorating quite rapidly. :(
:(((((
they accidentally ended up in charge
completely unexpectedly
SCIENCE said:
they accidentally ended up in charge
completely unexpectedly
Woo, what is the big dip in the fifties in Asia and the US, Korean war?
Peak Warming Man said:
SCIENCE said:they accidentally ended up in charge
completely unexpectedly
Woo, what is the big dip in the fifties in Asia and the US, Korean war?
Sorry, world and Asia.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
SCIENCE said:they accidentally ended up in charge
completely unexpectedly
Woo, what is the big dip in the fifties in Asia and the US, Korean war?
Sorry, world and Asia.
The “Great Leap Forward” presumably.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:Woo, what is the big dip in the fifties in Asia and the US, Korean war?
Sorry, world and Asia.
The “Great Leap Forward” presumably.
Yeah probably but the world seems to dip bigger than asia.
SCIENCE said:
they accidentally ended up in charge
completely unexpectedly
the firing squad of casual darwinian medicine, dressed up with libertarianism, under cover of libertarian denial
see if you can find any accurate forecasts or models regard likely present numbers of long covd in australia
and ask why you can’t
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Sorry, world and Asia.
The “Great Leap Forward” presumably.
Yeah probably but the world seems to dip bigger than asia.
the lines cross over but yeah as the others say, we suspect it was the last time they tried to cull the weak to free up the strong
LOL
pretty fucking sure we said this kind of shit before but
what does “cytotoxic” mean to yous
really
also, forum lab, lol
The Economy Must Grow¡
SCIENCE said:
Good News¡ We Have The Tools And They Are Cheap
Sorry We Meant 10% Of Them Cheap Tools Will Get Chronic Disease And Need Treatment
The Economy Must Grow¡
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metformin
SCIENCE said:
Good News
so, uh
cool
Guidance for Certifying Deaths Due to Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
Expanded in February 2023 to Include Guidance for Certifying Deaths Due to Post-acute Sequelae of COVID-19
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
nah the lockdowns killed them
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Good News
so, uh
cool
LOL, fucking
CHINA
Thank Fuck Our Cuntry Isn’t Being Run By A Woman
wait
fireworks soon
SCIENCE said:
Thank Fuck Our Cuntry Isn’t Being Run By A Woman
wait
sorry we thought that killing them first would free up the healthcare system
were we wrong
ahahahahahahahahahaha
brilliant
don’t say we never give yous any good news
not only can The Economy Must Grow, they might even succeed in preventing a whole heap of chronic fatigue and multiple sclerosis maybe
There is currently no vaccine for the Epstein-Barr virus, which is the leading cause of mononucleosis, or mono, commonly called the “kissing disease”.
March 8 (Reuters) – Opko Health Inc (OPK.O) said on Wednesday it signed a deal with Merck & Co Inc (MRK.N) potentially worth up to $922.5 million for its experimental Epstein-Barr virus vaccine.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Thank Fuck Our Cuntry Isn’t Being Run By A Woman
wait
sorry we thought that killing them first would free up the healthcare system
were we wrong
I did notice the places where there was dynamic zero got a constant pressure from external to abandon it, undermining efforts for dynamic zero
I noticed also the propaganda machine likes to remove this fact from your brain, make it a difficult thought to hold
SCIENCE said:
I think there are four plagues now re covid
a) the virus
b) intentionalized prevalence
c) mass injury
d) denial
excellent
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/08/world/permafrost-virus-risk-climate-scn
sounds like fun
SCIENCE said:
Woke Virus Achieves SexGender Equality Soon After International PeopleWhoMenstruate’s Day
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
https://twitter.com/TheLancet/status/1633252188087816192
Contracting a respiratory infection in early childhood is associated with a higher risk of dying from respiratory disease as an adult, new study finds.
wait you’re right we should give all female ifTheySurviveTheyMightBecomePeopleWhoMenstruate children COVID-19 and then they will actually have decreased risk of death isn’t it obvious
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I know nothing of this, but the Internet does not seem to agree.
The Nazis were losing votes in the last election before Hitler was appointed Chancellor.
They got 37% of the vote in the July 1932 elections, and fell back to 33% in the November 1932 elections.
The Communist party increased its vote from 14% to nearly 17% in those two elections. They were on a trend of doing better on their own, and while they shared with the Nazis a commitment to ending parliamentary government, they were severely opposed to the Nazis in every other way, and had no interest in supporting them.
The Social Democrats were under no illusions about the Nazi Party, or what their fate would be in under a Nazi government or in any coalition with them, so they had no interest in helping the Nazis at all..
On January 30, 1933, President Hindenburg appointed Adolf Hitler chancellor of Germany. Hitler was not appointed chancellor as the result of an electoral victory with a popular mandate, but instead as the result of a constitutionally questionable deal among a small group of conservative German politicians who had given up on parliamentary rule.
After that, Hitler made use of Article 48 of the German constitution. This Article permitted the German government to govern without parliamentary consent and was to be applied only in cases of direct national emergency. It had first been implemented by the President, Paul von Hindenburg in 1930, and resorted to several times after that by chancellors Franz von Papen and General Kurt von Schleicher, so the precedent was well established.
oh Australia recently had an evangelical polyminister a bit like that
American high school seniors. The increased feelings of disempowerment are marked for both groups but especially for girls, and seem correlated with social media use (from 2012, social media on smartphones).
Other stats show that increased rates of depression are particularly high for young women with progressive politics.
They may just have something there.
The question is, who might they blame for this, or be convinced to blame for this?
There’s certainly a stratum of American society, wealthy in both monetary and political senses, which sees no benefit to their own interests in improving prosperity for ‘lower’ levels of that society, and which is interested in keeping things as they are, or perhaps making them a little worse.
Rather than be recognised as being responsible for stagnation and obstruction, those more powerful people would probably prefer that some other group bears the ‘blame’ for the situation.
As we’ve been talking about how Hitler ascended, one aspect of his method is that he tailored his appeals to suit his audience.
When speaking to businessmen, the Nazis downplayed antisemitism and instead emphasized anti-communism and the return of German colonies lost through the Treaty of Versailles. When addressed to soldiers, veterans, or other nationalist interest groups, Nazi propaganda emphasized military buildup and return of other territories lost after Versailles. Nazi speakers assured farmers in the northern state of Schleswig-Holstein that a Nazi government would prop up falling agricultural prices. Pensioners all over Germany were told that both the amounts and the buying power of their monthly checks would remain stable.
And, depending on the audience, a scapegoat would often be named: the Jews, the Communists, the ‘November Criminals’ of 1918, foreign powers, etc.
A danger that America faces is that its population is seduced by tactics of divide-and-conquer, with various scapegoat groups offered to different sectors of the society, keeping them fighting uselessly amongst themselves so that they’re to busy to see where the real problems lie.
speaking of national socialism
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
American high school seniors. The increased feelings of disempowerment are marked for both groups but especially for girls, and seem correlated with social media use (from 2012, social media on smartphones).
Other stats show that increased rates of depression are particularly high for young women with progressive politics.
They may just have something there.
The question is, who might they blame for this, or be convinced to blame for this?
There’s certainly a stratum of American society, wealthy in both monetary and political senses, which sees no benefit to their own interests in improving prosperity for ‘lower’ levels of that society, and which is interested in keeping things as they are, or perhaps making them a little worse.
Rather than be recognised as being responsible for stagnation and obstruction, those more powerful people would probably prefer that some other group bears the ‘blame’ for the situation.
As we’ve been talking about how Hitler ascended, one aspect of his method is that he tailored his appeals to suit his audience.
When speaking to businessmen, the Nazis downplayed antisemitism and instead emphasized anti-communism and the return of German colonies lost through the Treaty of Versailles. When addressed to soldiers, veterans, or other nationalist interest groups, Nazi propaganda emphasized military buildup and return of other territories lost after Versailles. Nazi speakers assured farmers in the northern state of Schleswig-Holstein that a Nazi government would prop up falling agricultural prices. Pensioners all over Germany were told that both the amounts and the buying power of their monthly checks would remain stable.
And, depending on the audience, a scapegoat would often be named: the Jews, the Communists, the ‘November Criminals’ of 1918, foreign powers, etc.
A danger that America faces is that its population is seduced by tactics of divide-and-conquer, with various scapegoat groups offered to different sectors of the society, keeping them fighting uselessly amongst themselves so that they’re to busy to see where the real problems lie.
speaking of national socialism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Barrington_Declaration
just reading that^
so
any objective symptoms
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so
any objective symptoms
awaiting the toxicology reports.
But thus far no reports of bystanders injured in the fray
oh what’s this
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-10/covid-pandemic-what-we-need-to-focus-on-next/102077800
SCIENCE said:
oh what’s this
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-10/covid-pandemic-what-we-need-to-focus-on-next/102077800
Well, No. 1 on that list is a non-starter, now or at any time in the past or the future.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
so
any objective symptoms
awaiting the toxicology reports.
But thus far no reports of bystanders injured in the fray
well well well
Police have found “no evidence” 15 children who apparently fell ill after eating lollies on a north Queensland school bus were exposed to a toxic substance.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-10/bluewater-school-bus-lollies-students/102078128
as we said, let us guess, line of sight transmission
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
oh what’s this
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-10/covid-pandemic-what-we-need-to-focus-on-next/102077800
Well, No. 1 on that list is a non-starter, now or at any time in the past or the future.
oh c’m‘on there was one once but he died in January 1983 so yeah
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
so
any objective symptoms
awaiting the toxicology reports.
But thus far no reports of bystanders injured in the fray
well well well
Police have found “no evidence” 15 children who apparently fell ill after eating lollies on a north Queensland school bus were exposed to a toxic substance.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-10/bluewater-school-bus-lollies-students/102078128
as we said, let us guess, line of sight transmission
I’m not quite clear why the driver was stood down. Did he give the kids lollies? That would be unusual these days. And if he did, it would have to be individually wrapped lollies.
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
oh what’s this
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-10/covid-pandemic-what-we-need-to-focus-on-next/102077800
Well, No. 1 on that list is a non-starter, now or at any time in the past or the future.
oh c’m‘on there was one once but he died in January 1983 so yeah
Who might that be?
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
so
any objective symptoms
awaiting the toxicology reports.
But thus far no reports of bystanders injured in the fray
well well well
Police have found “no evidence” 15 children who apparently fell ill after eating lollies on a north Queensland school bus were exposed to a toxic substance.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-10/bluewater-school-bus-lollies-students/102078128
as we said, let us guess, line of sight transmission
I’ve seen similar happen elsewhere, and in broadly similar circumstances.
Maybe someone had a genuine illness/reaction to start with, maybe not.
But, it can lead to a sort of sympathetic imitation reaction from others, particularly in adolescents.
They may have been dehydrated/hungry/tired, which rendered them more susceptible.
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
oh what’s this
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-10/covid-pandemic-what-we-need-to-focus-on-next/102077800
Well, No. 1 on that list is a non-starter, now or at any time in the past or the future.
oh c’m‘on there was one once but he died in January 1983 so yeah
Three years into the pandemic, with the removal of almost all mitigation measures in most countries – except a wide range of Asian countries where my friends have taught, masked, to their students, also masked, and they had no lockdowns and also no infections.
Singapore’s Living with Covid as touted via the MSM was every child 6 years and older wearing masks indoors and outdoors, with mechanical ventilation at their schools and many major buildings.
I find it really irritating that my friend can go masked into the hospital is tested with a rapid test that is 98% accuracy, leaves for lunch and is tested on their way back in.
I should probably just stop reading about Covid altogether.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:roughbarked said:
awaiting the toxicology reports.
But thus far no reports of bystanders injured in the fray
well well well
Police have found “no evidence” 15 children who apparently fell ill after eating lollies on a north Queensland school bus were exposed to a toxic substance.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-10/bluewater-school-bus-lollies-students/102078128
as we said, let us guess, line of sight transmission
I’ve seen similar happen elsewhere, and in broadly similar circumstances.
Maybe someone had a genuine illness/reaction to start with, maybe not.
But, it can lead to a sort of sympathetic imitation reaction from others, particularly in adolescents.
They may have been dehydrated/hungry/tired, which rendered them more susceptible.
Mass Hysteria?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_psychogenic_illness
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:captain_spalding said:
Well, No. 1 on that list is a non-starter, now or at any time in the past or the future.
oh c’m‘on there was one once but he died in January 1983 so yeah
Three years into the pandemic, with the removal of almost all mitigation measures in most countries – except a wide range of Asian countries where my friends have taught, masked, to their students, also masked, and they had no lockdowns and also no infections.
Singapore’s Living with Covid as touted via the MSM was every child 6 years and older wearing masks indoors and outdoors, with mechanical ventilation at their schools and many major buildings.
I find it really irritating that my friend can go masked into the hospital is tested with a rapid test that is 98% accuracy, leaves for lunch and is tested on their way back in.
I should probably just stop reading about Covid altogether.
Look after yourself: Mask, hygiene, avoid crowds and as you suggest, don’t read too much.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:well well well
Police have found “no evidence” 15 children who apparently fell ill after eating lollies on a north Queensland school bus were exposed to a toxic substance.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-10/bluewater-school-bus-lollies-students/102078128
as we said, let us guess, line of sight transmission
I’ve seen similar happen elsewhere, and in broadly similar circumstances.
Maybe someone had a genuine illness/reaction to start with, maybe not.
But, it can lead to a sort of sympathetic imitation reaction from others, particularly in adolescents.
They may have been dehydrated/hungry/tired, which rendered them more susceptible.
Mass Hysteria?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_psychogenic_illness
Yes, that’s the one. Although I think these kids were on the way to school, so they shouldn’t really have been tired.
Michael V said:
ms spock said:
SCIENCE said:oh c’m‘on there was one once but he died in January 1983 so yeah
Three years into the pandemic, with the removal of almost all mitigation measures in most countries – except a wide range of Asian countries where my friends have taught, masked, to their students, also masked, and they had no lockdowns and also no infections.
Singapore’s Living with Covid as touted via the MSM was every child 6 years and older wearing masks indoors and outdoors, with mechanical ventilation at their schools and many major buildings.
I find it really irritating that my friend can go masked into the hospital is tested with a rapid test that is 98% accuracy, leaves for lunch and is tested on their way back in.
I should probably just stop reading about Covid altogether.
Look after yourself: Mask, hygiene, avoid crowds and as you suggest, don’t read too much.
Always masked, practiced hygiene, and I avoid crowds but it’s hard when you need medical treatment and those in the medical facilities aren’t masked and you have to take off your mask to get treatment.
And watching people you love getting sick and dying because they have an illness that is not life threatening, until they get Covid.
Very depressing.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:roughbarked said:
awaiting the toxicology reports.
But thus far no reports of bystanders injured in the fray
well well well
Police have found “no evidence” 15 children who apparently fell ill after eating lollies on a north Queensland school bus were exposed to a toxic substance.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-10/bluewater-school-bus-lollies-students/102078128
as we said, let us guess, line of sight transmission
I’ve seen similar happen elsewhere, and in broadly similar circumstances.
Maybe someone had a genuine illness/reaction to start with, maybe not.
But, it can lead to a sort of sympathetic imitation reaction from others, particularly in adolescents.
They may have been dehydrated/hungry/tired, which rendered them more susceptible.
Or, they didn’t want to go to school…
furious said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:well well well
Police have found “no evidence” 15 children who apparently fell ill after eating lollies on a north Queensland school bus were exposed to a toxic substance.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-10/bluewater-school-bus-lollies-students/102078128
as we said, let us guess, line of sight transmission
I’ve seen similar happen elsewhere, and in broadly similar circumstances.
Maybe someone had a genuine illness/reaction to start with, maybe not.
But, it can lead to a sort of sympathetic imitation reaction from others, particularly in adolescents.
They may have been dehydrated/hungry/tired, which rendered them more susceptible.
Or, they didn’t want to go to school…
How bags of humbugs killed 20 people in Bradford
WHEN you pop to the shop to buy a bag of sweets, the last thing you would expect is to die from eating them.
Yet that is exactly what happened to 20 people who bought humbugs sold from a market stall in Bradford back in 1858.
As well as the 20 men, women and children who perished, more than 200 became seriously ill after taking home what they thought was a bag of tasty humbugs.
The sweets had been inadvertently made using arsenic. In fact, they contained enough arsenic to kill two people per humbug.
he 1858 case became known as the Bradford Humbug Poisoning and was talked about across the country. It is one of a number of such cases described in The History of Sweets by Yorkshire author Paul Chrystal.
He focuses on it in a chapter on ‘adulteration’ – an adulterant being ‘a hostile matter found in substances such as food, cosmetics, pharmaceuticals, fuel or other chemicals that compromises the safety or effectiveness of that product.’
For centuries before the Bradford incident, sugar was extremely expensive and was called ‘white gold’, writes Chrystal. The government recognised the opportunities and taxed it severely: in 1815 the tax raised from sugar in Britain was £3million. To defray the costs of raw materials, sweet and chocolate manufacturers resorted to adulteration and their products were mixed with cheaper substances or ‘daff’. This was a concoction of harmless daff such as powdered limestone and plaster of Paris.
William Hardaker, known locally as ‘Humbug Billy’, sold sweets from a stall in the Green Market in Bradford, now the site of the Kirkgate Shopping Centre; his supplier James Appleton, the manufacturer of the sweets – including peppermint humbugs – used daff in his sweet production. It was supplied by a druggist in Shipley.
‘Tragically’, writes Chrystal in his illustrated book, ‘12lbs of arsenic trioxide were sold instead of the harmless daff. Both daff and arsenic trioxide are white powders and look alike; the arsenic trioxide was not properly labelled and negligently stored next to the daff.’
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/19516494.bags-humbugs-killed-20-people-bradford/
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
Well, No. 1 on that list is a non-starter, now or at any time in the past or the future.
oh c’m‘on there was one once but he died in January 1983 so yeah
Who might that be?
sorry we were being kind of lame
1. Politicians need to be frank
https://www.naa.gov.au/explore-collection/australias-prime-ministers/francis-forde
Frank Forde was Australia’s 15th Prime Minister. He served for only 8 days from 6 to 13 July 1945.
Died: 28 January 1983
SCIENCE said:
oh what’s this
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-10/covid-pandemic-what-we-need-to-focus-on-next/102077800
might has me some dissembled darwinian supper, perhaps a debt and plague dish with plenty inflation
Bubblecar said:
furious said:
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
awaiting the toxicology reports.
But thus far no reports of bystanders injured in the fray
well well well
Police have found “no evidence” 15 children who apparently fell ill after eating lollies on a north Queensland school bus were exposed to a toxic substance.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-10/bluewater-school-bus-lollies-students/102078128
as we said, let us guess, line of sight transmission
I’m not quite clear why the driver was stood down. Did he give the kids lollies? That would be unusual these days. And if he did, it would have to be individually wrapped lollies.
Or, they didn’t want to go to school…
How bags of humbugs killed 20 people in Bradford
WHEN you pop to the shop to buy a bag of sweets, the last thing you would expect is to die from eating them.
Yet that is exactly what happened to 20 people who bought humbugs sold from a market stall in Bradford back in 1858.
As well as the 20 men, women and children who perished, more than 200 became seriously ill after taking home what they thought was a bag of tasty humbugs.
The sweets had been inadvertently made using arsenic. In fact, they contained enough arsenic to kill two people per humbug.
he 1858 case became known as the Bradford Humbug Poisoning and was talked about across the country. It is one of a number of such cases described in The History of Sweets by Yorkshire author Paul Chrystal.
He focuses on it in a chapter on ‘adulteration’ – an adulterant being ‘a hostile matter found in substances such as food, cosmetics, pharmaceuticals, fuel or other chemicals that compromises the safety or effectiveness of that product.’
For centuries before the Bradford incident, sugar was extremely expensive and was called ‘white gold’, writes Chrystal. The government recognised the opportunities and taxed it severely: in 1815 the tax raised from sugar in Britain was £3million. To defray the costs of raw materials, sweet and chocolate manufacturers resorted to adulteration and their products were mixed with cheaper substances or ‘daff’. This was a concoction of harmless daff such as powdered limestone and plaster of Paris.
William Hardaker, known locally as ‘Humbug Billy’, sold sweets from a stall in the Green Market in Bradford, now the site of the Kirkgate Shopping Centre; his supplier James Appleton, the manufacturer of the sweets – including peppermint humbugs – used daff in his sweet production. It was supplied by a druggist in Shipley.
‘Tragically’, writes Chrystal in his illustrated book, ‘12lbs of arsenic trioxide were sold instead of the harmless daff. Both daff and arsenic trioxide are white powders and look alike; the arsenic trioxide was not properly labelled and negligently stored next to the daff.’
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/19516494.bags-humbugs-killed-20-people-bradford/
yes we agree with buffy, strange to put it all on the driver
ms spock said:
Michael V said:
ms spock said:
Three years into the pandemic, with the removal of almost all mitigation measures in most countries – except a wide range of Asian countries where my friends have taught, masked, to their students, also masked, and they had no lockdowns and also no infections.
Singapore’s Living with Covid as touted via the MSM was every child 6 years and older wearing masks indoors and outdoors, with mechanical ventilation at their schools and many major buildings.
I find it really irritating that my friend can go masked into the hospital is tested with a rapid test that is 98% accuracy, leaves for lunch and is tested on their way back in.
I should probably just stop reading about Covid altogether.
Look after yourself: Mask, hygiene, avoid crowds and as you suggest, don’t read too much.
Always masked, practiced hygiene, and I avoid crowds but it’s hard when you need medical treatment and those in the medical facilities aren’t masked and you have to take off your mask to get treatment.
And watching people you love getting sick and dying because they have an illness that is not life threatening, until they get Covid.
Very depressing.
solidarity
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:furious said:
Or, they didn’t want to go to school…
How bags of humbugs killed 20 people in Bradford
WHEN you pop to the shop to buy a bag of sweets, the last thing you would expect is to die from eating them.
Yet that is exactly what happened to 20 people who bought humbugs sold from a market stall in Bradford back in 1858.
As well as the 20 men, women and children who perished, more than 200 became seriously ill after taking home what they thought was a bag of tasty humbugs.
The sweets had been inadvertently made using arsenic. In fact, they contained enough arsenic to kill two people per humbug.
he 1858 case became known as the Bradford Humbug Poisoning and was talked about across the country. It is one of a number of such cases described in The History of Sweets by Yorkshire author Paul Chrystal.
He focuses on it in a chapter on ‘adulteration’ – an adulterant being ‘a hostile matter found in substances such as food, cosmetics, pharmaceuticals, fuel or other chemicals that compromises the safety or effectiveness of that product.’
For centuries before the Bradford incident, sugar was extremely expensive and was called ‘white gold’, writes Chrystal. The government recognised the opportunities and taxed it severely: in 1815 the tax raised from sugar in Britain was £3million. To defray the costs of raw materials, sweet and chocolate manufacturers resorted to adulteration and their products were mixed with cheaper substances or ‘daff’. This was a concoction of harmless daff such as powdered limestone and plaster of Paris.
William Hardaker, known locally as ‘Humbug Billy’, sold sweets from a stall in the Green Market in Bradford, now the site of the Kirkgate Shopping Centre; his supplier James Appleton, the manufacturer of the sweets – including peppermint humbugs – used daff in his sweet production. It was supplied by a druggist in Shipley.
‘Tragically’, writes Chrystal in his illustrated book, ‘12lbs of arsenic trioxide were sold instead of the harmless daff. Both daff and arsenic trioxide are white powders and look alike; the arsenic trioxide was not properly labelled and negligently stored next to the daff.’
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/19516494.bags-humbugs-killed-20-people-bradford/
yes we agree with buffy, strange to put it all on the driver
Perhaps more will be revealed later.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Good News
so, uh
cool
LOL, fucking
Good News
oh but it is
remember what we’ve been telling yous for 2 years
oh
wait
is what they did
SCIENCE said:
remember what we’ve been telling yous for 2 years
oh
wait
is what they did
won’t bother reading all that, just add that there was plenty evidence far enough back to indicate it was exactly the sort of thing you wouldn’t want freely circulating
but you know if you were a decadent worldist, a dissembling darwinian liberal, with a backdrop of debt instability heading for economic collapse you’d say and deny anything to keep the bullshit apparently working
peak bullshit would be your best friend
perfect
we need to cull
the old and the weak and the alarmists
SCIENCE said:
perfect
we need to cull
the old and the weak and the alarmists
possibility of casual bad luck certainly expanded, quite flexibly, there was a time perhaps people were more conscious of their bad breath, and it didn’t need smell bad to be bad
but whatever, people seem more worried about words these days, perhaps it’s compensation or sorts, don’t want people pointing to the darwinian arseholery
ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
the great diversification
because nobody in that administration voted for it
The 419 to 0 vote in favour of declassification increases pressure on US President Joe Biden’s administration to allow the information’s release.
nice and naive, wait what 5 year plan
oh that’s right the electoral cycle is only 3 years long
I hope everyone’s had their 5th booster.
strategic success
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/09/17/what-happens-to-covid-long-haulers-in-the-army/
Bubblecar said:
I hope everyone’s had their 5th booster.
uh we don’t know of anyone up to 7 shots at all
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
I hope everyone’s had their 5th booster.
uh we don’t know of anyone up to 7 shots at all
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
I hope everyone’s had their 5th booster.
uh we don’t know of anyone up to 7 shots at all
OK 5th jab, needle, injection, prick, whatever.
audience capture strikes ever harder
SCIENCE said:
audience capture strikes ever harder
Good to see Monbiot defending sanity.
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
audience capture strikes ever harder
Good to see Monbiot defending sanity.
well if the examples given in the article are legitimate then seems like low hanging fruit to be honest
In 2014, he was bursting with new ideas and creative ways of presenting them. Today, he wastes his talent on tired and discredited tales: endless iterations of the alleged evils of the World Economic Forum founder, Klaus Schwab, the Great Reset, Bill Gates, Nancy Pelosi, the former US chief medical adviser, Anthony Fauci, Covid vaccines, medical data, the World Health Organization, Pfizer, smart cities and “the globalist masterplan”. His videos appear to promote “natural immunity” ahead of vaccines, and for a while pushed ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine as treatments for Covid (they aren’t). He championed the “Freedom Convoy” that occupied Ottawa, which apparently stood proudly against the “tyranny” of Justin Trudeau’s policies. He hawks Graham Hancock’s widely debunked claims about ancient monuments.
What is the point of paying for first class if you still have to sit next to people?
“it only takes seconds”
holy fuck
burn
https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/burns-and-scalds-children
SCIENCE said:
“it only takes seconds”
holy fuck
burn
milliseconds
no wonder all of you bats don’t get our laughs
SCIENCE said:
“it only takes seconds”
holy fuck
burn
https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/burns-and-scalds-children
- At 60°C, it takes one second for hot water to cause third-degree burns.
- At 55°C, it takes 10 seconds for hot water to cause third-degree burns.
- At 50°C, it takes five minutes for hot water to cause third-degree burns.
We don’t assess burns in degrees in Australia. We use superficial or deep and a percentage of body affected.
https://www.rch.org.au/clinicalguide/guideline_index/Burns/
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:“it only takes seconds”
holy fuck
burn
https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/burns-and-scalds-children
- At 60°C, it takes one second for hot water to cause third-degree burns.
- At 55°C, it takes 10 seconds for hot water to cause third-degree burns.
- At 50°C, it takes five minutes for hot water to cause third-degree burns.
We don’t assess burns in degrees in Australia. We use superficial or deep and a percentage of body affected.
https://www.rch.org.au/clinicalguide/guideline_index/Burns/
It seems the Victorian government does; SCIENCE was quoting their web page.
ellipsis
Michael V said:
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:“it only takes seconds”
holy fuck
burn
https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/burns-and-scalds-children
- At 60°C, it takes one second for hot water to cause third-degree burns.
- At 55°C, it takes 10 seconds for hot water to cause third-degree burns.
- At 50°C, it takes five minutes for hot water to cause third-degree burns.
We don’t assess burns in degrees in Australia. We use superficial or deep and a percentage of body affected.
https://www.rch.org.au/clinicalguide/guideline_index/Burns/
It seems the Victorian government does; SCIENCE was quoting their web page.
It’s not been done in the American way for about 50 years that I know of. I joined St John quite young (1970s) and we did superficial or deep and the percentage thing back then as far as I recall.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:We don’t assess burns in degrees in Australia. We use superficial or deep and a percentage of body affected.
https://www.rch.org.au/clinicalguide/guideline_index/Burns/
It seems the Victorian government does; SCIENCE was quoting their web page.
It’s not been done in the American way for about 50 years that I know of. I joined St John quite young (1970s) and we did superficial or deep and the percentage thing back then as far as I recall.
Just checked, 1979 St John First Aid book does the percentages. I’d go with the Royal Children’s Hospital being the authority on that rather than the VicGov. Don’t know where they got their ideas from.
buffy said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:It seems the Victorian government does; SCIENCE was quoting their web page.
It’s not been done in the American way for about 50 years that I know of. I joined St John quite young (1970s) and we did superficial or deep and the percentage thing back then as far as I recall.
Just checked, 1979 St John First Aid book does the percentages. I’d go with the Royal Children’s Hospital being the authority on that rather than the VicGov. Don’t know where they got their ideas from.
Here’s the page that was quoted from. I expect it is the Health Department or similar.
https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/burns-and-scalds-children
Michael V said:
buffy said:
buffy said:
It’s not been done in the American way for about 50 years that I know of. I joined St John quite young (1970s) and we did superficial or deep and the percentage thing back then as far as I recall.
Just checked, 1979 St John First Aid book does the percentages. I’d go with the Royal Children’s Hospital being the authority on that rather than the VicGov. Don’t know where they got their ideas from.
Here’s the page that was quoted from. I expect it is the Health Department or similar.
https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/burns-and-scalds-children
fair, although we do agree with buffy in that someone in Australia told us to go with “superficial” “partial” “full” thickness, blame our loose copypasta
Michael V said:
buffy said:
buffy said:It’s not been done in the American way for about 50 years that I know of. I joined St John quite young (1970s) and we did superficial or deep and the percentage thing back then as far as I recall.
Just checked, 1979 St John First Aid book does the percentages. I’d go with the Royal Children’s Hospital being the authority on that rather than the VicGov. Don’t know where they got their ideas from.
Here’s the page that was quoted from. I expect it is the Health Department or similar.
https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/burns-and-scalds-children
Yes, I understand that. But it is not using the Australian nomenclature. They need to use local descriptions rather than USA ones.
SCIENCE said:
Mansplaining Good Guy Probably With Gun But Without Creepy Appearance Offers Excellent Hourly Rate For Professional Person Who Has Female Gendered Pronouns To Expose Her Cheeks And Lips And Orifices While On Flight
makes wonder why needs a broader audience, but I guess if you use a virus, transmission of, to diminish responsibility for transmission and all the injury it causes, make it common enough, mass injury
if I tortured what someone else said for a moment..
the more prevalent a stupid, the less effort that’s required to sustain the stupid
might be the secret hope, the way of stupid
buffy said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:It seems the Victorian government does; SCIENCE was quoting their web page.
It’s not been done in the American way for about 50 years that I know of. I joined St John quite young (1970s) and we did superficial or deep and the percentage thing back then as far as I recall.
Just checked, 1979 St John First Aid book does the percentages. I’d go with the Royal Children’s Hospital being the authority on that rather than the VicGov. Don’t know where they got their ideas from.
+1
ms spock said:
buffy said:
buffy said:It’s not been done in the American way for about 50 years that I know of. I joined St John quite young (1970s) and we did superficial or deep and the percentage thing back then as far as I recall.
Just checked, 1979 St John First Aid book does the percentages. I’d go with the Royal Children’s Hospital being the authority on that rather than the VicGov. Don’t know where they got their ideas from.
+1
I do remember terms like third degree burns back in the fifties.
ms spock said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Mansplaining Good Guy Probably With Gun But Without Creepy Appearance Offers Excellent Hourly Rate For Professional Person Who Has Female Gendered Pronouns To Expose Her Cheeks And Lips And Orifices While On Flight
makes wonder why needs a broader audience, but I guess if you use a virus, transmission of, to diminish responsibility for transmission and all the injury it causes, make it common enough, mass injury
if I tortured what someone else said for a moment..
the more prevalent a stupid, the less effort that’s required to sustain the stupid
might be the secret hope, the way of stupid
Pandemic Technology Project
This tech millionaire went from covid trial funder to misinformation superspreader
After boosting unproven covid drugs and campaigning against vaccines, Steve Kirsch was abandoned by his team of scientific advisers—and left out of a job.
same guy apparently
SCIENCE said:
ms spock said:
transition said:
makes wonder why needs a broader audience, but I guess if you use a virus, transmission of, to diminish responsibility for transmission and all the injury it causes, make it common enough, mass injury
if I tortured what someone else said for a moment..
the more prevalent a stupid, the less effort that’s required to sustain the stupid
might be the secret hope, the way of stupid
Pandemic Technology Project
This tech millionaire went from covid trial funder to misinformation superspreader
After boosting unproven covid drugs and campaigning against vaccines, Steve Kirsch was abandoned by his team of scientific advisers—and left out of a job.
same guy apparently
Indeed it is…
He’s got priors for being a right prat!
SCIENCE said:
if only
:(
While he does not believe the virus was concocted artificially, Dr Fauci acknowledged that it was still possible that COVID had leaked from a lab as part of “a natural occurrence”. “A lab leak could be that someone was out in the wild, maybe looking for different types of viruses in bats, got infected, went into a lab and was being studied in a lab and then came out of the lab,” Dr Fauci said. “If that’s the definition of a lab leak, then that is still a natural occurrence. The other possibility is that someone takes a virus from the environment that doesn’t actually spread very well in humans then manipulates it a bit and accidentally it escapes and accidentally infects someone and you get an outbreak. there are no lab leaks that have led to pandemics.” Dr Fauci, 82, who was accused by Mr Trump in 2020 of making “a lot of mistakes” in his handling of coronavirus, stepped down from his role as chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden last December.
probably paid for by CHINA it’s obvious
⚠ we agree with Fauci in case it isn’t obvious
sure sure
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-12/imf-how-we-missed-the-inflation-surge/102075588
First, they say when the pandemic shock first hit, governments provided massive fiscal stimulus to keep their economies afloat. That stimulus helped economies to recover much faster than expected, which meant official predictions of dire output slumps didn’t eventuate.
you mean it helped demand remain high, but when not coupled with strategies to actually stop infection, supply still got fucked
Second, they say the unexpectedly-strong recovery in demand in most countries met highly constrained supply chains. “Supply chain bottlenecks are normally caused by either demand or supply shocks, rarely a combination of the two,” they say. “But during the initial COVID-19 lockdowns, a formidable combination of both forces was at play — demand for goods was increasing at a fast pace, while supply saw a temporary substantial retreat.
oh wait same point as above
Third, those demand-supply imbalances were amplified by the shift in demand from services to goods during the early lockdown period when the leisure and hospitality sectors basically stopped functioning. This temporarily reversed a trend seen over the past couple of decades of goods inflation that was lower than services inflation.
yeah maybe but we guess this is what would happen if people tried to stop global warming too
Fourth, unprecedented labour market tightness, which persists in some advanced economies (such as Australia), confounded some of the previous factors. “Measured by the ratio of vacancies to unemployment, labour markets have been particularly tight in Australia, Canada, the UK, and the US, significantly correlating with the magnitude of these countries’ core inflation forecast errors,” they say.
oh shit we wonder how this might have come about
SCIENCE said:
Quick, Deny Everything¡ Fauci Furiously Forgets
While he does not believe the virus was concocted artificially, Dr Fauci acknowledged that it was still possible that COVID had leaked from a lab as part of “a natural occurrence”. “A lab leak could be that someone was out in the wild, maybe looking for different types of viruses in bats, got infected, went into a lab and was being studied in a lab and then came out of the lab,” Dr Fauci said. “If that’s the definition of a lab leak, then that is still a natural occurrence. The other possibility is that someone takes a virus from the environment that doesn’t actually spread very well in humans then manipulates it a bit and accidentally it escapes and accidentally infects someone and you get an outbreak. there are no lab leaks that have led to pandemics.” Dr Fauci, 82, who was accused by Mr Trump in 2020 of making “a lot of mistakes” in his handling of coronavirus, stepped down from his role as chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden last December.
probably paid for by CHINA it’s obvious
⚠ we agree with Fauci in case it isn’t obvious
I got down into that page, quite a way
it crossed my mind that the real number of deaths caused by covid is probably heading for 25million or more, and who knows about long covid etc injuries maybe that’s heading for well over half a billion
I wonder, if I kept reading some more would it get more difficult to hold in my mind what portion of all those deaths and injuries were caused by letting the virus go
would I have to write it down a hundred times each day so it wasn’t vanished from my mind
but surely the ideological apparatus doesn’t vanish inconvenient realities by way of displacement
SCIENCE said:
sure sure
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-12/imf-how-we-missed-the-inflation-surge/102075588
First, they say when the pandemic shock first hit, governments provided massive fiscal stimulus to keep their economies afloat. That stimulus helped economies to recover much faster than expected, which meant official predictions of dire output slumps didn’t eventuate.
you mean it helped demand remain high, but when not coupled with strategies to actually stop infection, supply still got fucked
Second, they say the unexpectedly-strong recovery in demand in most countries met highly constrained supply chains. “Supply chain bottlenecks are normally caused by either demand or supply shocks, rarely a combination of the two,” they say. “But during the initial COVID-19 lockdowns, a formidable combination of both forces was at play — demand for goods was increasing at a fast pace, while supply saw a temporary substantial retreat.
oh wait same point as above
Third, those demand-supply imbalances were amplified by the shift in demand from services to goods during the early lockdown period when the leisure and hospitality sectors basically stopped functioning. This temporarily reversed a trend seen over the past couple of decades of goods inflation that was lower than services inflation.
yeah maybe but we guess this is what would happen if people tried to stop global warming too
Fourth, unprecedented labour market tightness, which persists in some advanced economies (such as Australia), confounded some of the previous factors. “Measured by the ratio of vacancies to unemployment, labour markets have been particularly tight in Australia, Canada, the UK, and the US, significantly correlating with the magnitude of these countries’ core inflation forecast errors,” they say.
oh shit we wonder how this might have come about
I thinks whatever the problem, was there longtime before the pandemic, and what pushed it over the edge?
well, it’s obvious a lot more money was put into circulation, adding to debt
so that might implicate debt, debt to GDP, the question of debt stability
what else
a virus that maims and kills was released, and people were paid to do it, essentially, hardly a natural response
so distortion on top of distortion, loss of structure, the system stopped making sense
we suppose if it’s not acceptable to call out unhealthy lifestyle choices then we guess the alternative is medicalisation of the consequences to absolve individuals of responsibility
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/mar/12/orchestrated-pr-campaign-how-skinny-jab-drug-firm-sought-to-shape-obesity-debate
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/12/revealed-experts-who-praised-new-skinny-jab-received-payments-from-drug-maker
so we guess it’sn’t just “couldn’t be SARACAIDS-CoV causing this, must be dogs / adenovirus / computer games” and suddenly maybe possibly there’s a chance
https://www.ft.com/content/26e0731f-15c4-4f5a-b2dc-fd8591a02aec
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/03/09/business/recent-surge-us-women-with-disability-may-be-due-long-covid/
The growing evidence that Covid-19 is leaving people sicker
Recent surge in US women with a disability may be due to long COVID
¿LOL¡¿
SCIENCE said:
For The Economy
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/10351794/veteran-british-airways-pilot-dies/
bit strange that article
had ill-health for couple months
but not bad enough to not pilot
maybe’s meant to leave the reader guessing
whatever, something to go between advertisements somewhere i’m sure
SCIENCE said:
so we guess it’sn’t just “couldn’t be SARACAIDS-CoV causing this, must be dogs / adenovirus / computer games” and suddenly maybe possibly there’s a chance
https://www.ft.com/content/26e0731f-15c4-4f5a-b2dc-fd8591a02aec
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/03/09/business/recent-surge-us-women-with-disability-may-be-due-long-covid/The growing evidence that Covid-19 is leaving people sicker
Recent surge in US women with a disability may be due to long COVID
sorry we meant to run this one
New report warns long COVID could be “mass disabling event”
“new”
“could be”
SCIENCE said:
so we guess it’sn’t just “couldn’t be SARACAIDS-CoV causing this, must be dogs / adenovirus / computer games” and suddenly maybe possibly there’s a chance
https://www.ft.com/content/26e0731f-15c4-4f5a-b2dc-fd8591a02aec
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/03/09/business/recent-surge-us-women-with-disability-may-be-due-long-covid/The growing evidence that Covid-19 is leaving people sicker
Recent surge in US women with a disability may be due to long COVID
https://www.ft.com/content/26e0731f-15c4-4f5a-b2dc-fd8591a02aec
have a think about that sentence starting, by memory…..…threatening global health systems………., as placed in that paragraph
getting down into it…by memory again……now, post covid
by memory again….….to survive in this new world order….….
Abso-fking-lutely insane.
Those who wear masks on public transport in Vienna will be fined 150 euros.
Vienna removed the requirement on March 1, after the rest of Austria lifted the similar requirement a few months earlier.
Now, while those who don’t want to wear a mask can once again travel without on public transport in Vienna, those who do want to wear a mask face fines of up to 150 euros, Austrian newspaper Kurier reports.
Previously, those who benefited from a medical exemption could bypass the obligation to wear a mask. Now, thanks to a law passed by the conservative Austrian People’s Party (ÖVP) and its populist allies in the Freedom Party (FPÖ) coalition in 2017, those who want to continue wearing masks will need a medical certificate.
The law, called AGesVG, was originally proposed to stop the wearing of the full Islamic veil, such as the niqab and burqa, but it covers all face coverings.
Spiny Norman said:
Abso-fking-lutely insane.Those who wear masks on public transport in Vienna will be fined 150 euros.
Vienna removed the requirement on March 1, after the rest of Austria lifted the similar requirement a few months earlier.
Now, while those who don’t want to wear a mask can once again travel without on public transport in Vienna, those who do want to wear a mask face fines of up to 150 euros, Austrian newspaper Kurier reports.
Previously, those who benefited from a medical exemption could bypass the obligation to wear a mask. Now, thanks to a law passed by the conservative Austrian People’s Party (ÖVP) and its populist allies in the Freedom Party (FPÖ) coalition in 2017, those who want to continue wearing masks will need a medical certificate.
The law, called AGesVG, was originally proposed to stop the wearing of the full Islamic veil, such as the niqab and burqa, but it covers all face coverings.
It does seem a rather strange interpretation of “freedom”.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Spiny Norman said:
Abso-fking-lutely insane.
Those who wear masks on public transport in Vienna will be fined 150 euros.
Vienna removed the requirement on March 1, after the rest of Austria lifted the similar requirement a few months earlier.
Now, while those who don’t want to wear a mask can once again travel without on public transport in Vienna, those who do want to wear a mask face fines of up to 150 euros, Austrian newspaper Kurier reports.
Previously, those who benefited from a medical exemption could bypass the obligation to wear a mask. Now, thanks to a law passed by the conservative Austrian People’s Party (ÖVP) and its populist allies in the Freedom Party (FPÖ) coalition in 2017, those who want to continue wearing masks will need a medical certificate.
The law, called AGesVG, was originally proposed to stop the wearing of the full Islamic veil, such as the niqab and burqa, but it covers all face coverings.
It does seem a rather strange interpretation of “freedom”.
will it also apply to sunglasses, extravagant jewellery, and topically applied cosmetics
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Spiny Norman said:
Abso-fking-lutely insane.
Those who wear masks on public transport in Vienna will be fined 150 euros.
Vienna removed the requirement on March 1, after the rest of Austria lifted the similar requirement a few months earlier.
Now, while those who don’t want to wear a mask can once again travel without on public transport in Vienna, those who do want to wear a mask face fines of up to 150 euros, Austrian newspaper Kurier reports.
Previously, those who benefited from a medical exemption could bypass the obligation to wear a mask. Now, thanks to a law passed by the conservative Austrian People’s Party (ÖVP) and its populist allies in the Freedom Party (FPÖ) coalition in 2017, those who want to continue wearing masks will need a medical certificate.
The law, called AGesVG, was originally proposed to stop the wearing of the full Islamic veil, such as the niqab and burqa, but it covers all face coverings.
It does seem a rather strange interpretation of “freedom”.
will it also apply to sunglasses, extravagant jewellery, and topically applied cosmetics
Wigs fake beards and merkins?
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Spiny Norman said:
Abso-fking-lutely insane.
Those who wear masks on public transport in Vienna will be fined 150 euros.
Vienna removed the requirement on March 1, after the rest of Austria lifted the similar requirement a few months earlier.
Now, while those who don’t want to wear a mask can once again travel without on public transport in Vienna, those who do want to wear a mask face fines of up to 150 euros, Austrian newspaper Kurier reports.
Previously, those who benefited from a medical exemption could bypass the obligation to wear a mask. Now, thanks to a law passed by the conservative Austrian People’s Party (ÖVP) and its populist allies in the Freedom Party (FPÖ) coalition in 2017, those who want to continue wearing masks will need a medical certificate.
The law, called AGesVG, was originally proposed to stop the wearing of the full Islamic veil, such as the niqab and burqa, but it covers all face coverings.
It does seem a rather strange interpretation of “freedom”.
will it also apply to sunglasses, extravagant jewellery, and topically applied cosmetics
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
It does seem a rather strange interpretation of “freedom”.
will it also apply to sunglasses, extravagant jewellery, and topically applied cosmetics
Wigs fake beards and merkins?
What about dyed hair?
good ideas
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
apparently the context here is that when they all wake up from the weekend, or around Monday night in Australia, some excitement will happen
https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1634777100350783489?t=DqzrcXt8ai833kN2upekOg&s=19
now wait until we tell yous all about something completely fucked up
Senator Mark Warner says the focus is on making sure there is no contagion
just call it a bank virus and fucking let it rip
free market our arseholes
(sorry right thread)
nice trick
¡
in an era of supply shortages
…
…
create more demand
¡¡¡
WIN
Weird.
The Covid Live Aussie site has changed the infected numbers, reducing them by about 130,000. So about that many people have been retrospectively un-infected somehow.
SCIENCE said:
Quick, Deny Everything¡ Fauci Furiously Forgets
While he does not believe the virus was concocted artificially, Dr Fauci acknowledged that it was still possible that COVID had leaked from a lab as part of “a natural occurrence”. “A lab leak could be that someone was out in the wild, maybe looking for different types of viruses in bats, got infected, went into a lab and was being studied in a lab and then came out of the lab,” Dr Fauci said. “If that’s the definition of a lab leak, then that is still a natural occurrence. The other possibility is that someone takes a virus from the environment that doesn’t actually spread very well in humans then manipulates it a bit and accidentally it escapes and accidentally infects someone and you get an outbreak. there are no lab leaks that have led to pandemics.” Dr Fauci, 82, who was accused by Mr Trump in 2020 of making “a lot of mistakes” in his handling of coronavirus, stepped down from his role as chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden last December.
probably paid for by CHINA it’s obvious
⚠ we agree with Fauci in case it isn’t obvious
It could be a simple of them not disposing of their test subjects properly and someone ended up eating a deceased animal or a dog or cat ate it and passed in through that way. There’s many ways of a leakage of a virus to occur.
transition said:
SCIENCE said:Quick, Deny Everything¡ Fauci Furiously Forgets
While he does not believe the virus was concocted artificially, Dr Fauci acknowledged that it was still possible that COVID had leaked from a lab as part of “a natural occurrence”. “A lab leak could be that someone was out in the wild, maybe looking for different types of viruses in bats, got infected, went into a lab and was being studied in a lab and then came out of the lab,” Dr Fauci said. “If that’s the definition of a lab leak, then that is still a natural occurrence. The other possibility is that someone takes a virus from the environment that doesn’t actually spread very well in humans then manipulates it a bit and accidentally it escapes and accidentally infects someone and you get an outbreak. there are no lab leaks that have led to pandemics.” Dr Fauci, 82, who was accused by Mr Trump in 2020 of making “a lot of mistakes” in his handling of coronavirus, stepped down from his role as chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden last December.
probably paid for by CHINA it’s obvious
⚠ we agree with Fauci in case it isn’t obvious
I got down into that page, quite a way
it crossed my mind that the real number of deaths caused by covid is probably heading for 25million or more, and who knows about long covid etc injuries maybe that’s heading for well over half a billion
I wonder, if I kept reading some more would it get more difficult to hold in my mind what portion of all those deaths and injuries were caused by letting the virus go
would I have to write it down a hundred times each day so it wasn’t vanished from my mind
but surely the ideological apparatus doesn’t vanish inconvenient realities by way of displacement
It can transition if the majority of the people who die are disabled, eldery, Black, Brown and vulnerable people.
SCIENCE said:
fireworks soon
fuze get short
oh wait fuck ahahahahahaha that’s the cuntry where you get fined for wearing a mask
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
fireworks soon
fuze get short
oh wait fuck ahahahahahaha that’s the cuntry where you get fined for wearing a mask
apparently old news and supposedly that other thing was a right wing methamphetamine dream of a self fulfilling prophecy
LOL at least it cost less than the COVID-19 protections oh fuck wait even the estimate is more before the cost blow out
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-14/aukus-nuclear-submarine-deal-announced/102087614
SCIENCE said:
good luck
I reads about brainstem encephalitis, because I can
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bickerstaff_brainstem_encephalitis
for the benefit of the guardians of suggestibility, looking over the plague, i’m not suggesting it’s brainstem encephalitis
but might I explore my derrr
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
‘Shepparton daycare cancels transport service until further notice after child allegedly forgotten in bus’
‘Staff and family of a daycare centre in northern Victoria, where a child was allegedly left in a bus for five hours, have been offered counselling as centre management confirms it is working with investigating authorities. ‘
Just how the bloody f*** does this sort of shit still happen?
One would imagine that, given the widespread reporting of previous similar incidents and their consequences, there wouldn’t be a day-care centre whose bus isn’t searched almost to the point of being dismantled as soon as the last run of the morning or afternoon is done.
One would assume to think so but the obvious is clearly hard to miss.
Qld recently introduced a law in which two daycare workers must examine the vehicle twice to make sure it’s empty.
Have you seen daycare buses? They fit 8 kids, max. There’s something wrong with people who miss a kid in a daycare bus.
yous all are assuming anyone cares about a few children dying of some specific cause
and as recently mentioned above it’sn’t like SARACAIDS-CoV causes cognitive impairments that might affect driving andor surveillance of childcare buses
SCIENCE said:
yous all are assuming anyone cares about a few children dying of some specific cause
and as recently
surely this is just a calculated and ironic use of the Image 3850 Effect see below
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unintended_consequences
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
yous all are assuming anyone cares about a few children dying of some specific cause
and as recently
lets me makes ya some extra rectangles, I just gets my crayons out
Qld research suggests COVID, chronic fatigue have similar effect on brains
https://www.theage.com.au/national/queensland/qld-research-suggests-covid-chronic-fatigue-have-similar-effect-on-brains-20230314-p5cs03.html
…
One thing I’ve wondered about is the long-term impact of catching the regular ‘flu. You often hear of people who are knocked about for weeks if not months afterwards.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Qld research suggests COVID, chronic fatigue have similar effect on brainshttps://www.theage.com.au/national/queensland/qld-research-suggests-covid-chronic-fatigue-have-similar-effect-on-brains-20230314-p5cs03.html
…
One thing I’ve wondered about is the long-term impact of catching the regular ‘flu. You often hear of people who are knocked about for weeks if not months afterwards.
went read some wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naltrexone
then wandering various this gives me a chuckle
https://www.theage.com.au/national/queensland/the-eyes-have-it-research-looks-into-why-covid-19-blurs-our-vision-20221215-p5c6ld.html
“……COVID-19 infections as well as post-mortem results showing viral particles in the eyes and optical nerves…”
then down a bit
“……in the anecdotal reports from human patients the vision issues cleared up when the infection cleared up, with no lingering after-effects…”
so i’m in an evil mood, i’ll keep reading
fascists resorting to using crisis actors now
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Qld research suggests COVID, chronic fatigue have similar effect on brains
…
One thing I’ve wondered about is the long-term impact of catching the regular ‘flu. You often hear of people who are knocked about for weeks if not months afterwards.
went read some wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naltrexonethen wandering various this gives me a chuckle
https://www.theage.com.au/national/queensland/the-eyes-have-it-research-looks-into-why-covid-19-blurs-our-vision-20221215-p5c6ld.html“……COVID-19 infections as well as post-mortem results showing viral particles in the eyes and optical nerves…”
then down a bit
“……in the anecdotal reports from human patients the vision issues cleared up when the infection cleared up, with no lingering after-effects…”
so i’m in an evil mood, i’ll keep reading
imagine if the thing that suddenly got people talking about it after 2020 was that it was so common before everyone was getting it
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
fireworks soon
fuze get short
oh wait fuck ahahahahahaha that’s the cuntry where you get fined for wearing a mask
apparently old news
but this one seems up to date and more entertaining
https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2023AF0017-000312
guess what, masks should block that spray too
infographics; we haven’t fact checked but they look nice
https://twitter.com/BIRcovidhealth/status/1598871676208689152
Peak Warming Man said:
LOL, it’s crazy out there on the interweb.
oh fuck we were so cognitively impaired we thought it said “can you recognise this faeces” and were pretty confident that shit was the Daily Mail but then maybe that meant we didn’t have chronic SARACAIDS-CoV infection, fuck
SCIENCE said:
Peak Warming Man said:
LOL, it’s crazy out there on the interweb.
oh fuck we were so cognitively impaired we thought it said “can you recognise this faeces” and were pretty confident that shit was the Daily Mail but then maybe that meant we didn’t have chronic SARACAIDS-CoV infection, fuck
and it looks like I’ve got long covid without ever having had covid.
How does that happen?
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:Peak Warming Man said:
LOL, it’s crazy out there on the interweb.
oh fuck we were so cognitively impaired we thought it said “can you recognise this faeces” and were pretty confident that shit was the Daily Mail but then maybe that meant we didn’t have chronic SARACAIDS-CoV infection, fuck
and it looks like I’ve got long covid without ever having had covid.
How does that happen?
I’d suggest that you are seeing the wrong doctor.
look, the word “may” is probably doing a heap of work there
Tau.Neutrino said:
“Face Blindness” Could Be Yet Another Unexpected Symptom Of COVID-19
Not a bad thing if they are people who aren’t easy on the eye
Tau.Neutrino said:
“Face Blindness” Could Be Yet Another Unexpected Symptom Of COVID-19
plenty talk about symptoms re covid, sort of takes your mind away from damage, and injury, possibly because people historically and traditionally avoided injury, going back before man became bipedal, maybe most the animal world has the tendency, aversion to injury
too fucken bad if devious stupid took over the planet, hello darwinian arseholery, passes for morality these days
Cymek said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
“Face Blindness” Could Be Yet Another Unexpected Symptom Of COVID-19
Not a bad thing if they are people who aren’t easy on the eye
True.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Cymek said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
“Face Blindness” Could Be Yet Another Unexpected Symptom Of COVID-19
Not a bad thing if they are people who aren’t easy on the eye
True.
tell you a little secret the studies already show that masks make people more attractive, and that ugly narcissists are less likely to wear masks, so there’s already a nice solution which will save your life expectancy as well
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:oh fuck we were so cognitively impaired we thought it said “can you recognise this faeces” and were pretty confident that shit was the Daily Mail but then maybe that meant we didn’t have chronic SARACAIDS-CoV infection, fuck
and it looks like I’ve got long covid without ever having had covid.
How does that happen?
I’d suggest that you are seeing the wrong doctor.
imagine all and any being induced into a daily fail of tieing news into celebrities, status, intrigue, whatever that might poison your neuron, short its activity to whatever patterns that bring you back for more
turns out that 1/20 of the population
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/03/12/national/japan-covid-masks/
holds the rest hostage
and dictate supposed normality
transition said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
and it looks like I’ve got long covid without ever having had covid.
How does that happen?
I’d suggest that you are seeing the wrong doctor.
imagine all and any being induced into a daily fail of tieing news into celebrities, status, intrigue, whatever that might poison your neuron, short its activity to whatever patterns that bring you back for more
imagine celebrities having access to a higher standard of safety that is considered ridiculous for the rest of humanity
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/glenn-close-oscars-covid-19-1235349121/amp/
Glenn Close will no longer present at the 2023 Oscars in Los Angeles on Sunday night after testing positive for COVID-19, a rep for the actress told The Hollywood Reporter.
nah fuck it, Let It Rip®, go and die
Hey DA… when I posted that parcel the postmaster and I laughed about putting $100 insurance on a parcel of half a dozen Woolies “bricks”. He put it on because it isn’t charged for. He also suggested perhaps one of the bricks might turn out to be a rare one. Were there any duplicates or anything interesting in there? I know nothing about these bricks.
:)
buffy said:
Hey DA… when I posted that parcel the postmaster and I laughed about putting $100 insurance on a parcel of half a dozen Woolies “bricks”. He put it on because it isn’t charged for. He also suggested perhaps one of the bricks might turn out to be a rare one. Were there any duplicates or anything interesting in there? I know nothing about these bricks.:)
Sorry, wrong thread.
SCIENCE said:
fuck it, Let It Rip®, go and die
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.03.06.531302v1.full
neuro-invasion of SARS-CoV-2 has been shown to result in brain vascular inflammation, but the long-term impact of COVID-19 neurological sequalae is still unknown
LOL
FREEDOM
sorry we misspelled fascism
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
fuck it, Let It Rip®, go and die
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.03.06.531302v1.full
neuro-invasion of SARS-CoV-2 has been shown to result in brain vascular inflammation, but the long-term impact of COVID-19 neurological sequalae is still unknown
LOL
reading that
fairly safe to say it’s very much the sort of pathogen you wouldn’t want circulating uncontrolled, further probably safe to assert it’s insane to let it go, and further enough was known a long time back to not let it go
but ya know it’s the liberal way, along with debt instability apparently, which i’d speculate are not entirely unrelated
four years…
sarahs mum said:
four years…
¿reckon that’s all it’ll take?
we mean WHO the fuck are these people
irony, is it dead
SCIENCE said:
we mean WHO the fuck are these people
irony, is it dead
A complete waste of time and resources.
roughbarked said:
good, good
Their response included providing liquidity, or cheap money, to banks and providing assurances to all bank customers that their deposits were safe, even if they were above the insurance limit.
now imagine providing that in pandemic leave, no, impossible
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
good, good
Their response included providing liquidity, or cheap money, to banks and providing assurances to all bank customers that their deposits were safe, even if they were above the insurance limit.
now imagine providing that in pandemic leave, no, impossible
Someone needs to press the reset button.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
good, good
Their response included providing liquidity, or cheap money, to banks and providing assurances to all bank customers that their deposits were safe, even if they were above the insurance limit.
now imagine providing that in pandemic leave, no, impossible
Someone needs to press the reset button.
yes
The regulators literally shut the bank’s doors and scrambled to find a way to ease customers’ concerns. The solution was to develop a fund, contributed to by the banking system itself, to pay out deposits. Treasury secretary Janet Yellen was at pains to point out that it wasn’t a taxpayer bailout. But where are banks going to get the money to fill this fund? Their customers of course. The critical issue then becomes, at what point do regulators stop helping financial institutions when they’re in trouble? If the answer is never, we’ve actually now moved into an entirely different form of capitalism.
state owned capitalism fucking LOL sorry we mean the state can own the losses, private enterprise can still take the gains, as it always was
imagine if there was some simple and intelligent strategy to prevent stupidity like this
fascism
⚠ this post may contain satirical elements
SCIENCE said:
fascism
⚠ this post may contain satirical elements
First class could be used in more humane ways I think.
Women with babies, people with wheel chairs, people with claustrophobia etc.
Must be plenty of others.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:fascism
⚠ this post may contain satirical elements
First class could be used in more humane ways I think.
Women with babies, people with wheel chairs, people with claustrophobia etc.
Must be plenty of others.
Putting all people with babies in first class would be an excellent idea.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:fascism
⚠ this post may contain satirical elements
First class could be used in more humane ways I think.
Women with babies, people with wheel chairs, people with claustrophobia etc.
Must be plenty of others.
people with fat wallets??
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.03.06.531302v1.full
and continues to reads that^, which think master science posted back in the thread a way
an exercise in advanced exploration of my ignorance, a special effort
no propaganda
LOL
damn linguistic anarchists
reading and watching
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Clancy_(doctor)
“ Robert Llewellyn Clancy AM is a retired Australian clinical immunologist in the field of mucosal immunology. He is known for his research and development of therapies for chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), commonly known as emphysema.
Clancy developed the vaccine Broncostat at the University of Newcastle in 1985”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjXJUwbgKeA
Professor Clancy, long covid and immunity
apologies for the explorative tone of the interview, and my interest
SCIENCE said:
imagine if there was some simple and intelligent strategy to prevent stupidity like this
Two small air cleaners can clear 99% of infectious aerosols
If patients with COVID-19 are being managed outside negative pressure rooms, then we recommend hospitals consider using portable air cleaners with HEPA filters.
We published a world-first study in June into airflow and the movement of aerosols in a COVID-19 ward, giving us a real insight into how the virus might be transmitted.
We found portable air cleaners are highly effective in increasing the clearance of particles from the air in clinical spaces and reducing their spread to other areas.
Two small domestic air cleaners in a single patient room of a hospital ward could clear 99% of potentially infectious aerosols within 5.5 minutes.
These air cleaners are relatively cheap and commercially available. We believe they could help reduce the risk of health-care workers and other patients acquiring COVID-19 in health care.
We are currently using them at the Royal Melbourne Hospital and Western Health.
Innovations such as personal ventilation hoods can also be extremely useful. Western Health’s intensive care unit, which managed large numbers of patients in Melbourne in 2020, used these hoods to filter air close to COVID-19 positive patients and help protect staff.
It’s also important hospitals perform ventilation assessments of wards to be aware of the pathways of airflow through spaces to help inform where to position patients and staff.
We found minimising the number of infected patients in a given physical space was important as we think this helped to reduce the density of aerosols. When patient numbers are high, hospitals should try to avoid caring for more than one COVID-19 positive patient in a room, if possible, which may mean closing beds.
Clearly, if new COVID-19 case numbers climb, this becomes difficult, and enlisting the help of additional hospitals with suitable facilities to “share the load” will be necessary.
SCIENCE said:
imagine if there was some simple and intelligent strategy to prevent stupidity like this
Some interesting ideas here-
Infection Control & Hospital Epidemiology
Abstract Objective: To study the airflow, transmission, and clearance of aerosols in the clinical spaces of a hospital ward that had been used to care for patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and to examine the impact of portable air cleaners on aerosol clearance.
Infection Control & Hospital Epidemiology , Volume 43 , Issue 8 , August 2022 , pp. 987 – 992
DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/ice.2021.284
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-17/covid-19-case-numbers-from-around-the-states-and-territories/102103772
did read some news
won’t be long the ideological apparatus have their subjects conceiving covid (sequelae) in a narrower way as a preexisting brain-stem-oversize-syndrome, whatever anyway, help take your mind of the broad range of dyshealthy effects the virus can have – does – the liberal prevalence of the virus, and the strategic uncountability of it
whatever, tie it into chronic fatigue those sort of things, probably quite rare previously, gone from rare to rampant
understate the prevalence of infection, and transmission, rely on undercount and fade
instead of thinking covid is anywhere and everywhere, causes a whole lot of stuff it shouldn’t be allowed to cause, you’re imagining an enlarged brain stem
good work
LPlaterfoghlaimeoirGaeilge said:
SCIENCE said:
imagine if there was some simple and intelligent strategy to prevent stupidity like this
https://www.doherty.edu.au/news-events/news/we-studied-how-to-reduce-airborne-covid-spread-in-hospitals-heres-what-we-l
https://theconversation.com/we-studied-how-to-reduce-airborne-covid-spread-in-hospitals-heres-what-we-learnt-166018Two small air cleaners can clear 99% of infectious aerosols
If patients with COVID-19 are being managed outside negative pressure rooms, then we recommend hospitals consider using portable air cleaners with HEPA filters.We published a world-first study in June into airflow and the movement of aerosols in a COVID-19 ward, giving us a real insight into how the virus might be transmitted.
We found portable air cleaners are highly effective in increasing the clearance of particles from the air in clinical spaces and reducing their spread to other areas.
Two small domestic air cleaners in a single patient room of a hospital ward could clear 99% of potentially infectious aerosols within 5.5 minutes.
These air cleaners are relatively cheap and commercially available. We believe they could help reduce the risk of health-care workers and other patients acquiring COVID-19 in health care.
We are currently using them at the Royal Melbourne Hospital and Western Health.
Innovations such as personal ventilation hoods can also be extremely useful. Western Health’s intensive care unit, which managed large numbers of patients in Melbourne in 2020, used these hoods to filter air close to COVID-19 positive patients and help protect staff.
It’s also important hospitals perform ventilation assessments of wards to be aware of the pathways of airflow through spaces to help inform where to position patients and staff.
We found minimising the number of infected patients in a given physical space was important as we think this helped to reduce the density of aerosols. When patient numbers are high, hospitals should try to avoid caring for more than one COVID-19 positive patient in a room, if possible, which may mean closing beds.
Clearly, if new COVID-19 case numbers climb, this becomes difficult, and enlisting the help of additional hospitals with suitable facilities to “share the load” will be necessary.
we hear the cleaner air improves asthma and apnoea too
well yeah you wouldn’t want to stigmatise anyone going to school with trachoma, just let them, it’s normal
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-17/schools-covid-policy-australia-education/102087826
SCIENCE said:
well yeah you wouldn’t want to stigmatise anyone going to school with trachoma, just let them, it’s normal
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-17/schools-covid-policy-australia-education/102087826
there you see much better to bully the people who didn’t get in on the orgy
“Button batteries kill children. Boycott the button battery.”
oh look CHINA something great wall something something
fuck that
Epidemiologist Hassan Vally said Australia was entering the “disease control” phase of its response to COVID, which meant we were transitioning from a public health emergency to a situation where we have learnt to live with the virus. He said we may settle into a predictable pattern where the virus acts like influenza, with a yearly spike in cases.
seems fucking legit’
oh fuck
that’s one hell of a yearly spike
SCIENCE said:
seems fucking legit’
oh fuck
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
seems fucking legit’
oh fuck
L oh fucking L
but yeah probably faked
SCIENCE said:
L oh fucking L
but yeah probably faked
we’re sure that many of yous would prefer that we shut the fuck up so here you go
Better Off Not Knowing
SCIENCE
luckily, if you’re not an athlete, doing your duty and getting a dose of SARACAIDS-CoV actually makes your heart work better
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.03.14.23287258v1
Left ventricular global longitudinal strain as a parameter of mild myocardial dysfunction in athletes after COVID-19
Conclusions In a cohort of athletes at a median two months after COVID-19, significantly lower GLS and diastolic function were observed, suggesting mild myocardial dysfunction. GLS could be used as a screening element during return-to-sport examinations.
SCIENCE said:
doing your duty and getting a dose
surprising finding rocks boat
Research has shown people with long COVID have a poorer quality of life compared to those without the condition.
what the fuck no way
SCIENCE said:
LPlaterfoghlaimeoirGaeilge said:
SCIENCE said:
imagine if there was some simple and intelligent strategy to prevent stupidity like this
https://www.doherty.edu.au/news-events/news/we-studied-how-to-reduce-airborne-covid-spread-in-hospitals-heres-what-we-l
https://theconversation.com/we-studied-how-to-reduce-airborne-covid-spread-in-hospitals-heres-what-we-learnt-166018Two small air cleaners can clear 99% of infectious aerosols
If patients with COVID-19 are being managed outside negative pressure rooms, then we recommend hospitals consider using portable air cleaners with HEPA filters.We published a world-first study in June into airflow and the movement of aerosols in a COVID-19 ward, giving us a real insight into how the virus might be transmitted.
We found portable air cleaners are highly effective in increasing the clearance of particles from the air in clinical spaces and reducing their spread to other areas.
Two small domestic air cleaners in a single patient room of a hospital ward could clear 99% of potentially infectious aerosols within 5.5 minutes.
These air cleaners are relatively cheap and commercially available. We believe they could help reduce the risk of health-care workers and other patients acquiring COVID-19 in health care.
We are currently using them at the Royal Melbourne Hospital and Western Health.
Innovations such as personal ventilation hoods can also be extremely useful. Western Health’s intensive care unit, which managed large numbers of patients in Melbourne in 2020, used these hoods to filter air close to COVID-19 positive patients and help protect staff.
It’s also important hospitals perform ventilation assessments of wards to be aware of the pathways of airflow through spaces to help inform where to position patients and staff.
We found minimising the number of infected patients in a given physical space was important as we think this helped to reduce the density of aerosols. When patient numbers are high, hospitals should try to avoid caring for more than one COVID-19 positive patient in a room, if possible, which may mean closing beds.
Clearly, if new COVID-19 case numbers climb, this becomes difficult, and enlisting the help of additional hospitals with suitable facilities to “share the load” will be necessary.
we hear the cleaner air improves asthma and apnoea too
I have just spent three months struggling to breathe. I have asthma. I didn’t have it as a child so it has been quite the learning experience!
LPlaterfoghlaimeoirGaeilge said:
SCIENCE said:LPlaterfoghlaimeoirGaeilge said:
https://www.doherty.edu.au/news-events/news/we-studied-how-to-reduce-airborne-covid-spread-in-hospitals-heres-what-we-l
https://theconversation.com/we-studied-how-to-reduce-airborne-covid-spread-in-hospitals-heres-what-we-learnt-166018Two small air cleaners can clear 99% of infectious aerosols
If patients with COVID-19 are being managed outside negative pressure rooms, then we recommend hospitals consider using portable air cleaners with HEPA filters.We published a world-first study in June into airflow and the movement of aerosols in a COVID-19 ward, giving us a real insight into how the virus might be transmitted.
We found portable air cleaners are highly effective in increasing the clearance of particles from the air in clinical spaces and reducing their spread to other areas.
Two small domestic air cleaners in a single patient room of a hospital ward could clear 99% of potentially infectious aerosols within 5.5 minutes.
These air cleaners are relatively cheap and commercially available. We believe they could help reduce the risk of health-care workers and other patients acquiring COVID-19 in health care.
We are currently using them at the Royal Melbourne Hospital and Western Health.
Innovations such as personal ventilation hoods can also be extremely useful. Western Health’s intensive care unit, which managed large numbers of patients in Melbourne in 2020, used these hoods to filter air close to COVID-19 positive patients and help protect staff.
It’s also important hospitals perform ventilation assessments of wards to be aware of the pathways of airflow through spaces to help inform where to position patients and staff.
We found minimising the number of infected patients in a given physical space was important as we think this helped to reduce the density of aerosols. When patient numbers are high, hospitals should try to avoid caring for more than one COVID-19 positive patient in a room, if possible, which may mean closing beds.
Clearly, if new COVID-19 case numbers climb, this becomes difficult, and enlisting the help of additional hospitals with suitable facilities to “share the load” will be necessary.
we hear the cleaner air improves asthma and apnoea too
I have just spent three months struggling to breathe. I have asthma. I didn’t have it as a child so it has been quite the learning experience!
The tropics are probably not the best for you then.
roughbarked said:
LPlaterfoghlaimeoirGaeilge said:
SCIENCE said:we hear the cleaner air improves asthma and apnoea too
I have just spent three months struggling to breathe. I have asthma. I didn’t have it as a child so it has been quite the learning experience!
The tropics are probably not the best for you then.
The heat yesterday really hit me hard. It is so much hotter up here than usual.
Apparently I need a spacer and a nebuliser.
LPlaterfoghlaimeoirGaeilge said:
roughbarked said:
LPlaterfoghlaimeoirGaeilge said:I have just spent three months struggling to breathe. I have asthma. I didn’t have it as a child so it has been quite the learning experience!
The tropics are probably not the best for you then.
The heat yesterday really hit me hard. It is so much hotter up here than usual.
Apparently I need a spacer and a nebuliser.
Better get kitted up then.
LOL
why get angry at good news
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the weak and infirm should be culled, they are a waste of money when The Economy Must Grow especially when banks are unstable
calling the peak before the turn fucking laugh out loud
good, kill the drones people we don’t want
https://www.webmd.com/covid/news/20230316/covid-led-rise-pregnancy-related-deaths-new-research
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality/2021/maternal-mortality-rates-2021.htm
https://journals.lww.com/greenjournal/Fulltext/9900/Changes_in_Pregnancy_Related_Mortality_Associated.721.aspx
No Demographic Crisis Anywhere
SCIENCE said:
surprising finding rocks boat
Research has shown people with long COVID have a poorer quality of life compared to those without the condition.
what the fuck no way
release the plague, and let it be carried by prolific diversions, so that untruth be as air you breathe
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
L oh fucking L
but yeah probably faked
we’re sure that many of yous would prefer that we shut the fuck up so here you go
Better Off Not Knowing
SCIENCE
I findies that, has me reads
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/03/information-news-addiction-liberal-depression/673351/
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
well yeah you wouldn’t want to stigmatise anyone going to school with trachoma, just let them, it’s normal
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-17/schools-covid-policy-australia-education/102087826
there you see much better to bully the people who didn’t get in on the orgy
i’d expect the difference is that chickenpox and head lice don’t pose a threat to seamless worldism, airtravel you know, the friendly darwinian view from ten kilometres up, and all the borrowed money washing around that’s meant to motivate people, but you might better consult the broadcaster, they’re experts regard ethereal reality
New data links COVID’s origins to raccoon dogs at Wuhan market
By Benjamin Mueller
March 17, 2023 — 3.34pm
New York: An international team of virus experts said that they had found genetic data from a market in Wuhan, China, linking the coronavirus with raccoon dogs for sale there, adding evidence to the case that the worst pandemic in a century could have been ignited by an infected animal that was being dealt through the illegal wildlife trade.
The genetic data was drawn from swabs taken from in and around the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market starting in January 2020, shortly after Chinese authorities had shut down the market because of suspicions that it was linked to the outbreak of a new virus. By then, the animals had been cleared out, but researchers swabbed walls, floors, metal cages and carts often used for transporting animal cages.
In samples that came back positive for the coronavirus, the international research team found genetic material belonging to animals, including large amounts that were a match for the raccoon dog, three scientists involved in the analysis said.
The jumbling together of genetic material from the virus and the animal does not prove that a raccoon dog itself was infected. And even if a raccoon dog had been infected, it would not be clear that the animal had spread the virus to people. Another animal could have passed the virus to people, or someone infected with the virus could have spread the virus to a raccoon dog.
But the analysis did establish that raccoon dogs – fluffy animals that are related to foxes and are known to be able to transmit the coronavirus – deposited genetic signatures in the same place where genetic material from the virus was left, the three scientists said. That evidence, they said, was consistent with a scenario in which the virus had spilled into humans from a wild animal.
A report with the full details of the international research team’s findings has not yet been published. Their analysis was first reported by The Atlantic.
The new evidence is sure to provide a jolt to the debate over the pandemic’s origins, even if it does not resolve the question of how it began.
In recent weeks, the so-called lab leak theory, which posits that the coronavirus emerged from a research lab in Wuhan, has gained traction thanks to a new intelligence assessment from the US Department of Energy and hearings led by the new Republican House leadership.
But the genetic data from the market offers some of the most tangible evidence yet of how the virus could have spilled into people from wild animals outside a lab. It also suggests that Chinese scientists have given an incomplete account of evidence that could fill in details about how the virus was spreading at the Huanan market.
Jeremy Kamil, a virus expert at Louisiana State University Health Sciences Centre Shreveport who was not involved in the study, said the findings showed that “the samples from the market that had early COVID lineages in them were contaminated with DNA reads of wild animals.”
Kamil said that fell short of conclusive evidence that an infected animal had set off the pandemic. But, he said, “it really puts the spotlight on the illegal animal trade in an intimate way.”
Chinese scientists had released a study looking at the same market samples in February 2022. That study had reported that samples were positive for the coronavirus but suggested that the virus had come from infected people who were shopping or working in the market, rather than from animals being sold there.
At some point, those same researchers, including some affiliated with the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, posted the raw data from swabs around the market to GISAID, an international repository of genetic sequences of viruses. (Attempts to reach the Chinese scientists by phone were not successful.)
On March 4, Florence Débarre, an evolutionary biologist at the French National Centre for Scientific Research, happened to be searching that database for information related to the Huanan market when, she said in an interview, she noticed more sequences than usual popping up. Confused at first about whether they contained new data, Débarre put them aside, only to log in again last week and discover that they held a trove of raw data.
Virus experts had been awaiting that raw sequence data from the market since they learned of its existence in the Chinese report from February 2022. Débarre said she had alerted other scientists, including the leaders of a team that had published a set of studies last year pointing to the market as the origin.
An international team — which included Michael Worobey, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Arizona; Kristian Andersen, a virus expert at the Scripps Research Institute in California; and Edward Holmes, a biologist at the University of Sydney — started mining the new genetic data last week.
One sample in particular caught their attention. It had been taken from a cart linked to a specific stall at the Huanan market that Holmes had visited in 2014, scientists involved in the analysis said. That stall, Holmes found, contained caged raccoon dogs on top of a separate cage holding birds, exactly the sort of environment conducive to the transmission of new viruses.
The swab taken from a cart there in early 2020, the research team found, contained genetic material from the virus and a raccoon dog.
“We were able to figure out relatively quickly that at least in one of these samples, there was a lot of raccoon dog nucleic acid, along with virus nucleic acid,” said Stephen Goldstein, a virus expert at the University of Utah who worked on the new analysis. (Nucleic acids are the chemical building blocks that carry genetic information.)
After the international team stumbled upon the new data, they reached out to the Chinese researchers who had uploaded the files with an offer to collaborate, hewing to rules of the online repository, scientists involved with the new analysis said. After that, the sequences disappeared from GISAID.
It is not clear who removed them or why they were taken down.
Débarre said the research team was seeking more data, including some from market samples that were never made public. “What’s important is there’s still more data,” she said.
Scientists involved with the analysis said that some of the samples had also contained genetic material from other animals and from humans. Angela Rasmussen, a virus expert at the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organisation at the University of Saskatchewan in Canada, who worked on the analysis, said that the human genetic material was to be expected given that people were shopping and working there and that human COVID cases had been linked to the market.
Goldstein, too, cautioned that “we don’t have an infected animal, and we can’t prove definitively there was an infected animal at that stall.” Genetic material from the virus is stable enough, he said, that it is not clear when exactly it was deposited at the market. He said that the team was still analysing the data and that it had not intended for its analysis to become public before it had released a report.
“But,” he said, “given that the animals that were present in the market were not sampled at the time, this is as good as we can hope to get.”
https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/new-data-links-covid-s-origins-to-raccoon-dogs-at-wuhan-market-20230317-p5ct4d.html
Witty Rejoinder said:
New data links COVID’s origins to raccoon dogs at Wuhan market
By Benjamin Mueller
March 17, 2023 — 3.34pmNew York: An international team of virus experts said that they had found genetic data from a market in Wuhan, China, linking the coronavirus with raccoon dogs for sale there, adding evidence to the case that the worst pandemic in a century could have been ignited by an infected animal that was being dealt through the illegal wildlife trade.
The genetic data was drawn from swabs taken from in and around the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market starting in January 2020, shortly after Chinese authorities had shut down the market because of suspicions that it was linked to the outbreak of a new virus. By then, the animals had been cleared out, but researchers swabbed walls, floors, metal cages and carts often used for transporting animal cages.
In samples that came back positive for the coronavirus, the international research team found genetic material belonging to animals, including large amounts that were a match for the raccoon dog, three scientists involved in the analysis said.
The jumbling together of genetic material from the virus and the animal does not prove that a raccoon dog itself was infected. And even if a raccoon dog had been infected, it would not be clear that the animal had spread the virus to people. Another animal could have passed the virus to people, or someone infected with the virus could have spread the virus to a raccoon dog.
But the analysis did establish that raccoon dogs – fluffy animals that are related to foxes and are known to be able to transmit the coronavirus – deposited genetic signatures in the same place where genetic material from the virus was left, the three scientists said. That evidence, they said, was consistent with a scenario in which the virus had spilled into humans from a wild animal.
A report with the full details of the international research team’s findings has not yet been published. Their analysis was first reported by The Atlantic.
The new evidence is sure to provide a jolt to the debate over the pandemic’s origins, even if it does not resolve the question of how it began.
In recent weeks, the so-called lab leak theory, which posits that the coronavirus emerged from a research lab in Wuhan, has gained traction thanks to a new intelligence assessment from the US Department of Energy and hearings led by the new Republican House leadership.
But the genetic data from the market offers some of the most tangible evidence yet of how the virus could have spilled into people from wild animals outside a lab. It also suggests that Chinese scientists have given an incomplete account of evidence that could fill in details about how the virus was spreading at the Huanan market.
Jeremy Kamil, a virus expert at Louisiana State University Health Sciences Centre Shreveport who was not involved in the study, said the findings showed that “the samples from the market that had early COVID lineages in them were contaminated with DNA reads of wild animals.”
Kamil said that fell short of conclusive evidence that an infected animal had set off the pandemic. But, he said, “it really puts the spotlight on the illegal animal trade in an intimate way.”
Chinese scientists had released a study looking at the same market samples in February 2022. That study had reported that samples were positive for the coronavirus but suggested that the virus had come from infected people who were shopping or working in the market, rather than from animals being sold there.
At some point, those same researchers, including some affiliated with the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, posted the raw data from swabs around the market to GISAID, an international repository of genetic sequences of viruses. (Attempts to reach the Chinese scientists by phone were not successful.)
On March 4, Florence Débarre, an evolutionary biologist at the French National Centre for Scientific Research, happened to be searching that database for information related to the Huanan market when, she said in an interview, she noticed more sequences than usual popping up. Confused at first about whether they contained new data, Débarre put them aside, only to log in again last week and discover that they held a trove of raw data.
Virus experts had been awaiting that raw sequence data from the market since they learned of its existence in the Chinese report from February 2022. Débarre said she had alerted other scientists, including the leaders of a team that had published a set of studies last year pointing to the market as the origin.
An international team — which included Michael Worobey, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Arizona; Kristian Andersen, a virus expert at the Scripps Research Institute in California; and Edward Holmes, a biologist at the University of Sydney — started mining the new genetic data last week.
One sample in particular caught their attention. It had been taken from a cart linked to a specific stall at the Huanan market that Holmes had visited in 2014, scientists involved in the analysis said. That stall, Holmes found, contained caged raccoon dogs on top of a separate cage holding birds, exactly the sort of environment conducive to the transmission of new viruses.
The swab taken from a cart there in early 2020, the research team found, contained genetic material from the virus and a raccoon dog.
“We were able to figure out relatively quickly that at least in one of these samples, there was a lot of raccoon dog nucleic acid, along with virus nucleic acid,” said Stephen Goldstein, a virus expert at the University of Utah who worked on the new analysis. (Nucleic acids are the chemical building blocks that carry genetic information.)
After the international team stumbled upon the new data, they reached out to the Chinese researchers who had uploaded the files with an offer to collaborate, hewing to rules of the online repository, scientists involved with the new analysis said. After that, the sequences disappeared from GISAID.
It is not clear who removed them or why they were taken down.
Débarre said the research team was seeking more data, including some from market samples that were never made public. “What’s important is there’s still more data,” she said.
Scientists involved with the analysis said that some of the samples had also contained genetic material from other animals and from humans. Angela Rasmussen, a virus expert at the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organisation at the University of Saskatchewan in Canada, who worked on the analysis, said that the human genetic material was to be expected given that people were shopping and working there and that human COVID cases had been linked to the market.
Goldstein, too, cautioned that “we don’t have an infected animal, and we can’t prove definitively there was an infected animal at that stall.” Genetic material from the virus is stable enough, he said, that it is not clear when exactly it was deposited at the market. He said that the team was still analysing the data and that it had not intended for its analysis to become public before it had released a report.
“But,” he said, “given that the animals that were present in the market were not sampled at the time, this is as good as we can hope to get.”
still covering up the laboratory leaks then
Aside from “a fluffy animal related to foxes” WTF is a raccoon dog?
Oh, they’re quite cute.
Genetic material collected at a Chinese market near where the first human cases of COVID-19 were identified show raccoon-dog DNA commingled with the virus, adding evidence to the theory that the virus originated from animals, not from a lab, international experts have said.
“These data do not provide a definitive answer to how the pandemic began, but every piece of data is important to moving us closer to that answer,” World Health Organization (WHO) Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said.
How the coronavirus emerged remains unclear. Many scientists have said it most likely jumped from animals to people, as many other viruses have in the past, at a wildlife market in Wuhan, China.
But Wuhan is home to several labs involved in collecting and studying coronaviruses, fuelling theories scientists say are plausible that the virus may have leaked from one.
The new findings do not settle the question, and they have not been formally reviewed by other experts or published in a peer-reviewed journal. link
roughbarked said:
Genetic material collected at a Chinese market near where the first human cases of COVID-19 were identified show raccoon-dog DNA commingled with the virus, adding evidence to the theory that the virus originated from animals, not from a lab, international experts have said.
“These data do not provide a definitive answer to how the pandemic began, but every piece of data is important to moving us closer to that answer,” World Health Organization (WHO) Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said.How the coronavirus emerged remains unclear. Many scientists have said it most likely jumped from animals to people, as many other viruses have in the past, at a wildlife market in Wuhan, China.
But Wuhan is home to several labs involved in collecting and studying coronaviruses, fuelling theories scientists say are plausible that the virus may have leaked from one.
The new findings do not settle the question, and they have not been formally reviewed by other experts or published in a peer-reviewed journal. link
fkn cover ups
Alarming headlines and media coverage have said we’ve had 100 times as many influenza cases in the first two months of 2023 compared with the same time the previous year. But that scary sounding 100 figure is misleading. In the first two months of 2023, there were 8,474 laboratory-confirmed cases of influenza. In 2022, over the same period, there were 79 cases.
damn that mislead, almost as if it was absolutely correct
Strict COVID measures almost eliminated influenza outbreaks in 2020 and 2021. Shutting international borders, quarantining, social distancing and mask-wearing stopped influenza coming into the country and spreading.
oh shit so strategies to prevent infection can actually eliminate disease, damn, better not let that happen or there won’t be any profit to be made from treating disease
The Economy Must Grow
(and fuck you)
SCIENCE said:
nah fuck it, Let It Rip®, go and die
who needs safeguards and protections
However, some of the fuel used to generate the fusion reaction is radioactive, and Dr Wauters says there could be situations where some subatomic particles in the fusion plasma may irradiate parts of the tokamak itself.
“The amounts that we are talking about are grams — nothing compared to tonnes of material in a similar case in a fission plant,” he says. “I don’t think personally that it will come to this. And if it would come to this, the amounts are really, really small.”
Even so, and just in case, there are layers of containment such as reinforced concrete in place around the tokamak, as there are at fission power plants.
roughbarked said:
Genetic material collected at a Chinese market near where the first human cases of COVID-19 were identified show raccoon-dog DNA commingled with the virus, adding evidence to the theory that the virus originated from animals, not from a lab, international experts have said.
“These data do not provide a definitive answer to how the pandemic began, but every piece of data is important to moving us closer to that answer,” World Health Organization (WHO) Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said.How the coronavirus emerged remains unclear. Many scientists have said it most likely jumped from animals to people, as many other viruses have in the past, at a wildlife market in Wuhan, China.
But Wuhan is home to several labs involved in collecting and studying coronaviruses, fuelling theories scientists say are plausible that the virus may have leaked from one.
The new findings do not settle the question, and they have not been formally reviewed by other experts or published in a peer-reviewed journal. link
all helps take your mind away from that most the damage has been done by liberal covid – letting it go, living with it – at which point it technically probably was not a natural pandemic – the hosts attitudes influence infectiousness for example, now let me help you normalize that..
note that top health guy, yeah i’ve forgotten his name, american chap, chucked in some redefining material to help your confusion about natural emergence, funny thing that helping like mud in your eyes regard what is a natural pandemic, i’m sure the guy didn’t mean to turn your brain to slush and leak out your ears, even if it had that effect
apparently liberating people required liberating covid, there are no limits to the liberating good, plenty to injure, deaths also to count, science to be done, though doubt some-to-become-many want to count all the injury, hardly anyone does as it became common enough and all are involved, funny that, as in ought provoke conscience but seems to lend to indifference, just dissemble that with concern, there ya go, feel better now?
things have progressed since liberating the power of the atom, enola gay had a little boy you know, all sorts of technological marvels in the future to be enjoyed by all, humans are a force of nature, perhaps some radioactive vegetables next, or your rainwater will become undrinkable
maybe sometime in the future humans will genetically engineer a species using their own kind crossed with cockroaches, maybe it already sort of happened psychologically, in preparation
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
New data links COVID’s origins to raccoon dogs at Wuhan market
By Benjamin Mueller
March 17, 2023 — 3.34pmNew York: An international team of virus experts said that they had found genetic data from a market in Wuhan, China, linking the coronavirus with raccoon dogs for sale there, adding evidence to the case that the worst pandemic in a century could have been ignited by an infected animal that was being dealt through the illegal wildlife trade.
The genetic data was drawn from swabs taken from in and around the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market starting in January 2020, shortly after Chinese authorities had shut down the market because of suspicions that it was linked to the outbreak of a new virus. By then, the animals had been cleared out, but researchers swabbed walls, floors, metal cages and carts often used for transporting animal cages.
In samples that came back positive for the coronavirus, the international research team found genetic material belonging to animals, including large amounts that were a match for the raccoon dog, three scientists involved in the analysis said.
The jumbling together of genetic material from the virus and the animal does not prove that a raccoon dog itself was infected. And even if a raccoon dog had been infected, it would not be clear that the animal had spread the virus to people. Another animal could have passed the virus to people, or someone infected with the virus could have spread the virus to a raccoon dog.
But the analysis did establish that raccoon dogs – fluffy animals that are related to foxes and are known to be able to transmit the coronavirus – deposited genetic signatures in the same place where genetic material from the virus was left, the three scientists said. That evidence, they said, was consistent with a scenario in which the virus had spilled into humans from a wild animal.
A report with the full details of the international research team’s findings has not yet been published. Their analysis was first reported by The Atlantic.
The new evidence is sure to provide a jolt to the debate over the pandemic’s origins, even if it does not resolve the question of how it began.
In recent weeks, the so-called lab leak theory, which posits that the coronavirus emerged from a research lab in Wuhan, has gained traction thanks to a new intelligence assessment from the US Department of Energy and hearings led by the new Republican House leadership.
But the genetic data from the market offers some of the most tangible evidence yet of how the virus could have spilled into people from wild animals outside a lab. It also suggests that Chinese scientists have given an incomplete account of evidence that could fill in details about how the virus was spreading at the Huanan market.
Jeremy Kamil, a virus expert at Louisiana State University Health Sciences Centre Shreveport who was not involved in the study, said the findings showed that “the samples from the market that had early COVID lineages in them were contaminated with DNA reads of wild animals.”
Kamil said that fell short of conclusive evidence that an infected animal had set off the pandemic. But, he said, “it really puts the spotlight on the illegal animal trade in an intimate way.”
Chinese scientists had released a study looking at the same market samples in February 2022. That study had reported that samples were positive for the coronavirus but suggested that the virus had come from infected people who were shopping or working in the market, rather than from animals being sold there.
At some point, those same researchers, including some affiliated with the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, posted the raw data from swabs around the market to GISAID, an international repository of genetic sequences of viruses. (Attempts to reach the Chinese scientists by phone were not successful.)
On March 4, Florence Débarre, an evolutionary biologist at the French National Centre for Scientific Research, happened to be searching that database for information related to the Huanan market when, she said in an interview, she noticed more sequences than usual popping up. Confused at first about whether they contained new data, Débarre put them aside, only to log in again last week and discover that they held a trove of raw data.
Virus experts had been awaiting that raw sequence data from the market since they learned of its existence in the Chinese report from February 2022. Débarre said she had alerted other scientists, including the leaders of a team that had published a set of studies last year pointing to the market as the origin.
An international team — which included Michael Worobey, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Arizona; Kristian Andersen, a virus expert at the Scripps Research Institute in California; and Edward Holmes, a biologist at the University of Sydney — started mining the new genetic data last week.
One sample in particular caught their attention. It had been taken from a cart linked to a specific stall at the Huanan market that Holmes had visited in 2014, scientists involved in the analysis said. That stall, Holmes found, contained caged raccoon dogs on top of a separate cage holding birds, exactly the sort of environment conducive to the transmission of new viruses.
The swab taken from a cart there in early 2020, the research team found, contained genetic material from the virus and a raccoon dog.
“We were able to figure out relatively quickly that at least in one of these samples, there was a lot of raccoon dog nucleic acid, along with virus nucleic acid,” said Stephen Goldstein, a virus expert at the University of Utah who worked on the new analysis. (Nucleic acids are the chemical building blocks that carry genetic information.)
After the international team stumbled upon the new data, they reached out to the Chinese researchers who had uploaded the files with an offer to collaborate, hewing to rules of the online repository, scientists involved with the new analysis said. After that, the sequences disappeared from GISAID.
It is not clear who removed them or why they were taken down.
Débarre said the research team was seeking more data, including some from market samples that were never made public. “What’s important is there’s still more data,” she said.
Scientists involved with the analysis said that some of the samples had also contained genetic material from other animals and from humans. Angela Rasmussen, a virus expert at the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organisation at the University of Saskatchewan in Canada, who worked on the analysis, said that the human genetic material was to be expected given that people were shopping and working there and that human COVID cases had been linked to the market.
Goldstein, too, cautioned that “we don’t have an infected animal, and we can’t prove definitively there was an infected animal at that stall.” Genetic material from the virus is stable enough, he said, that it is not clear when exactly it was deposited at the market. He said that the team was still analysing the data and that it had not intended for its analysis to become public before it had released a report.
“But,” he said, “given that the animals that were present in the market were not sampled at the time, this is as good as we can hope to get.”
still covering up the laboratory leaks then
Genetic material collected at a Chinese market near where the first human cases of COVID-19 were identified show raccoon-dog DNA commingled with the virus, adding evidence to the theory that the virus originated from animals, not from a lab, international experts have said.
“These data do not provide a definitive answer to how the pandemic began, but every piece of data is important to moving us closer to that answer,” World Health Organization (WHO) Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said.How the coronavirus emerged remains unclear. Many scientists have said it most likely jumped from animals to people, as many other viruses have in the past, at a wildlife market in Wuhan, China.
But Wuhan is home to several labs involved in collecting and studying coronaviruses, fuelling theories scientists say are plausible that the virus may have leaked from one.
The new findings do not settle the question, and they have not been formally reviewed by other experts or published in a peer-reviewed journal. link
fkn cover ups
all helps take your mind away from that most the damage has been done by liberal covid – letting it go, living with it – at which point it technically probably was not a natural pandemic – the hosts attitudes influence infectiousness for example, now let me help you normalize that..
note that top health guy, yeah i’ve forgotten his name, american chap, chucked in some redefining material to help your confusion about natural emergence, funny thing that helping like mud in your eyes regard what is a natural pandemic, i’m sure the guy didn’t mean to turn your brain to slush and leak out your ears, even if it had that effect
apparently liberating people required liberating covid, there are no limits to the liberating good, plenty to injure, deaths also to count, science to be done, though doubt some-to-become-many want to count all the injury, hardly anyone does as it became common enough and all are involved, funny that, as in ought provoke conscience but seems to lend to indifference, just dissemble that with concern, there ya go, feel better now?
things have progressed since liberating the power of the atom, enola gay had a little boy you know, all sorts of technological marvels in the future to be enjoyed by all, humans are a force of nature, perhaps some radioactive vegetables next, or your rainwater will become undrinkable
maybe sometime in the future humans will genetically engineer a species using their own kind crossed with cockroaches, maybe it already sort of happened psychologically, in preparation
LOL
all 中国共产党 shills obviously, ignore them
You recently had COVID. How are you feeling?
I’d had it a couple of times and been asymptomatic, and so I got kind of cavalier and a little bit like, “Wow, COVID doesn’t really actually affect me. I’m one of those people.” And then I just got annihilated. I had the no-energy COVID, where it was too much work to pick up the phone to play Octordle.
ahahahahahahahahahaha
Love Yous All
SCIENCE said:
LOL
why get angry at good news
¿
the weak and infirm should be culled, they are a waste of money when The Economy Must Grow especially when banks are unstable
LOL
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.17.21251928v1
SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with a much greater risk of death (SARS-CoV-2: 2,618/11,940 vs No SARS-CoV-2: 16,482/1,960,213 ; OR: 5.8 ; p<0.001).
Amongst patients undergoing elective surgery 1,030/1,374,985 (0.1%) had SARS-CoV-2 of whom 83/1,030 (8.1%) died, compared with 1,092/1,373,955 (0.1%) patients without SARS-CoV-2 (OR: 29.0 ; p<0.001).
Amongst patients undergoing emergency surgery 9,742/437,891 (2.2%) patients had SARS-CoV-2, of whom 2,466/9,742 (25.3%) died compared with 14,817/428,149 (3.5%) patients without SARS-CoV-2 (OR: 5.7 ; p<0.001).
nice
cynicker
good news, lung transplants if you can farm enough unCOVID-19 juvenile hominids to harvest
Stanford Medicine researchers have found a mechanism behind one of the most common symptoms of long COVID — shortness of breath. Post COVID-19 breathing problems are caused by a condition known as lung fibrosis, when damaged lungs form scar tissue, which makes it difficult for lungs to expand and contract.
Long COVID cases can be severely debilitating and resistant to treatment, said Gerlinde Wernig, MD, PhD, assistant professor of pathology, who led the study. What’s worse, lung function can continue to decline, even without a new COVID-19 infection. The team’s new research pinpoints what’s happening in the lungs to cause fibrosis: overactivity of genes that regulate inflammation and immune responses.
oh wait there is government buy in what the fuck
Scale-up and monitor effective prevention interventions, such as improving ventilation in schools, long-term care homes, work and public places as part of a first line of prevention of SARS-CoV2 infection and other respiratory/airborne pathogens.
last year too, what the fuck happened
¿nothing?
oh that’s right that’s because it’s SCIENCE.gc.ca so nobody cares
SCIENCE said:
cynicker
protect yourself because nobody else will
doesn’t pass even the most basic logic imo, more like hoodoo, perhaps darwinian libertarian hoodoo
at last a sensible voice in this madness
We let our leaders lock us down. Be careful what you wish for next time
Parnell Palme McGuinness
Columnist and communications adviser
March 19, 2023 — 5.00am
April Fools¡
LOL fuck these disinformation agents tried to pretend the cost of a mild cold is 10 times what it is
bunch of liars, everyone knows that 3 months of lockdown cost 100 times more
SCIENCE said:
LOL fuck these disinformation agents tried to pretend the cost of a mild cold is 10 times what it is
bunch of liars, everyone knows that 3 months of lockdown cost 100 times more
look more conspiracy theorists
SCIENCE said:
at last a sensible voice in this madness
We let our leaders lock us down. Be careful what you wish for next time
Parnell Palme McGuinness
Columnist and communications adviser
March 19, 2023 — 5.00am
https://www.smh.com.au/national/we-let-our-leaders-lock-us-down-be-careful-what-you-wish-for-next-time-20230317-p5ct1e.html
dumb I is reading that
sees emerging pattern, evolution of a concept, helps the reader have the thoughts the writer intends
first it’s fear
then evolves to panic
then terrified population
but dumb stops a moment, I thinks what inclines me to drive on the correct side of the road and not venture over into oncoming traffic, what makes me careful when i’m up the ladder then on the roof, what makes me use a kitchen knife properly when cutting food, why do I look left and right before crossing the road
so many examples
apologies for pointing to the practical necessity of fear
derrrr
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LOL fuck these disinformation agents tried to pretend the cost of a mild cold is 10 times what it is
bunch of liars, everyone knows that 3 months of lockdown cost 100 times more
funny business pathologizing
you know I might read that page, and forget about all the previously healthy people that got an injury, call it long covid or whatever, some sequelae
imagine pathologizing doing that, presented effectively you may not even know what pathologizing is, what encouragements to do so looks like, what it might be deployed to do, not have much of a working concept at all, never considered the broader consequences
of course healthy is quite a range really, not entirely detached from experience of your own health, how well you feel, which is subjective, and be glad it is subjective or you wouldn’t have an I experience, what would the home in the head be otherwise?
moving on a bit…
if there’s something quite common about covid symptoms and sequelae, that i’d say was uncommon previous to covid spreading, previous to covid-19 existing, it is the complete loss of smell many people experience, and there are of course all the partial losses
i’ve never experienced anything like that in my over half century of living, waking up with everything smelling like chlorine or something electrical burning, seemingly I couldn’t even sense the inside of my nose, maybe say that couldn’t smell the inside of my nose, surely there’s some baseline experience related moisture in the nose also
a complete absence of the sense, apparently
anyway I suspect there is something important in that symptom, something about that hints at the further injuries it might cause
consider the immune system taking out the epithelial cells supporting those olfactory sensor neurons, or whatever happens, maybe basal cells, or stem cells
anyway, that was my tedious way of bringing it back to the proposition that preventing infection doesn’t need the sort of pathologizing that seems prevalent from the experts, the tendency to look for and focus on the vulnerability
I mean it seems perfectly healthy people are vulnerable also
which has brought me back again to reading about pericytes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pericyte
“Pericytes (formerly called Rouget cells) are multi-functional mural cells of the microcirculation that wrap around the endothelial cells that line the capillaries throughout the body. Pericytes are embedded in the basement membrane of blood capillaries, where they communicate with endothelial cells by means of both direct physical contact and paracrine signaling. The morphology, distribution, density and molecular fingerprints of pericytes vary between organs and vascular beds. Pericytes help to maintain homeostatic and hemostatic functions in the brain, one of the organs with higher pericyte coverage, and also sustain the blood–brain barrier. These cells are also a key component of the neurovascular unit, which includes endothelial cells, astrocytes, and neurons. Pericytes have been postulated to regulate capillary blood flow and the clearance and phagocytosis of cellular debris in vitro. Pericytes stabilize and monitor the maturation of endothelial cells by means of direct communication between the cell membrane as well as through paracrine signaling. A deficiency of pericytes in the central nervous system can cause increased permeability of the blood–brain barrier…”
good, as long as it’s younger than all of us(1,1,1) here then we(1,1,1) know we(1,1,1) the grown ups are immune
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good, as long as it’s younger than all of us(1,1,1) here then we(1,1,1) know we(1,1,1) the grown ups are immune
took a long fucking 3 years but the academic nerds finally realised what we(1,0,0)’ve been telling yous for those 3 years
yes we know some of yous knew it too
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
it’s finally happened
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/03/16/covid-pandemic-anniversary-three-questions/
they’re realising that New Normal isn’t quite Old Normal, it’s got a heavy burden of disease added in
We need far more studies like these. One crucial area of inquiry is what happens with repeat infections, which will almost certainly become more common with covid exposure going forward. We might come to expect some frequency of post-covid symptoms, and the resulting disability, as a “new normal.” In that case, health resources must shift from avoiding the coronavirus to reducing and treating its worst consequences — including long covid.
but check it out, they want you to embrace it, submit to it, pay for it, buy into it
live it
love it
SCIENCE said:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
it’s finally happened
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/03/16/covid-pandemic-anniversary-three-questions/
they’re realising that New Normal isn’t quite Old Normal, it’s got a heavy burden of disease added in
We need far more studies like these. One crucial area of inquiry is what happens with repeat infections, which will almost certainly become more common with covid exposure going forward. We might come to expect some frequency of post-covid symptoms, and the resulting disability, as a “new normal.” In that case, health resources must shift from avoiding the coronavirus to reducing and treating its worst consequences — including long covid.
but check it out, they want you to embrace it, submit to it, pay for it, buy into it
live it
love it
wents reads that page, applies my special ‘bility of understands convergent reality, the craft
after reads I have naughty other thinkies, thinkies covid-19 is sort of thing that should not be anywhere and everywhere
naughty thinkies
well they were 50% correct were they not, the pandemic really is over for the husband there
Today I found out that the parents of someone at work went to Singapore for a cruise holiday. His Mum got Covid on the ship, but his Dad was testing negative. The got back to Singapore on Friday, she was feeling well enough by then to go sightseeing for a day or two. They flew back on Sunday. Now his Dad has it. There were no checks in Singapore at either the port or the airport, nor were there any checks coming back into Australia.
No wonder everyone is getting it at airports.
party_pants said:
Today I found out that the parents of someone at work went to Singapore for a cruise holiday. His Mum got Covid on the ship, but his Dad was testing negative. The got back to Singapore on Friday, she was feeling well enough by then to go sightseeing for a day or two. They flew back on Sunday. Now his Dad has it. There were no checks in Singapore at either the port or the airport, nor were there any checks coming back into Australia.
No wonder everyone is getting it at airports.
apparently also because the “security” people at the border in various places insist that masks be removed for prolonged time
anyway
nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h_cqTCT5g0
oh what a crock we thought
lockdowns and vaccines should be blamed
LOL the shit never ends does it¿
guess what costs less than $1000 a season and will actually keep you healthy
genius
sorry for starting with Not-Quite-SARACAIDS-CoV but still it was interesting
exponential massive emissions activity uptake
people are awesome and they are geniuses
ah well at least Monash Health aren’t run by ASIANS trying to save face
actually wait LOL fkn legit’ yeah
https://monashhealth.org/about/board-of-directors/
https://monashhealth.org/about/executive-team/
SCIENCE said:
people are awesome and they are geniuses
Yesterday we found out that one of Mrs V’s acquaintances died of COVID-19, acquired while he was in hospital for an unrelated illness.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:people are awesome and they are geniuses
Yesterday we found out that one of Mrs V’s acquaintances died of COVID-19, acquired while he was in hospital for an unrelated illness.
:(
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:people are awesome and they are geniuses
Yesterday we found out that one of Mrs V’s acquaintances died of COVID-19, acquired while he was in hospital for an unrelated illness.
Nasty.
just a quick stop, we’ll rationalise the natural number solution thread stuff later
Perrottet has been quizzed regarding who made the call out for an ambulance to collect his wife Helen, on February 14. He insisted he did not seek preferential treatment when he phoned Health Minister Brad Hazzard, who he said was coincidentally in the same room with senior medical specialists, including NSW Ambulance Commissioner Dominic Morgan.
no need to ask, or seek, just mention it and the rest will be up to the people who happened to be in the room
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:people are awesome and they are geniuses
Yesterday we found out that one of Mrs V’s acquaintances died of COVID-19, acquired while he was in hospital for an unrelated illness.
:(
LPlaterfoghlaimeoirGaeilge said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
people are awesome and they are geniuses
Yesterday we found out that one of Mrs V’s acquaintances died of COVID-19, acquired while he was in hospital for an unrelated illness.
:(
Nasty.
:(
sorry for the loss, and we continue to advocate for better protection
imagine
SCIENCE said:
just a quick stop, we’ll rationalise the natural number solution thread stuff later
Perrottet has been quizzed regarding who made the call out for an ambulance to collect his wife Helen, on February 14. He insisted he did not seek preferential treatment when he phoned Health Minister Brad Hazzard, who he said was coincidentally in the same room with senior medical specialists, including NSW Ambulance Commissioner Dominic Morgan.
no need to ask, or seek, just mention it and the rest will be up to the people who happened to be in the room
legit’ WTF hey
LOL
it’s over
well, let’s see
apparently the hosts aren’t wearing masks
so we could presume they aren’t mandating masks
which means wearing masks is a choice
so the visitors must be wearing masks because they are afraid of something
which must be the DIRTY ASIANS who spread disease
obviously the good upstanding USSAoles at home are perfect and immune so that’s why
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
just a quick stop, we’ll rationalise the natural number solution thread stuff later
Perrottet has been quizzed regarding who made the call out for an ambulance to collect his wife Helen, on February 14. He insisted he did not seek preferential treatment when he phoned Health Minister Brad Hazzard, who he said was coincidentally in the same room with senior medical specialists, including NSW Ambulance Commissioner Dominic Morgan.
no need to ask, or seek, just mention it and the rest will be up to the people who happened to be in the room
legit’ WTF hey
sounds like he was saved further impropriety by the cautious approach of the people he called
A spokesperson said Dr Morgan was not asked to call the ambulance and did not request it be prioritised over other, higher-priority emergencies.
Instead of calling triple-0 for his wife who was crying in “immense pain”, he called the health minister, who was in a meeting with the head of the ambulance service. “I certainly didn’t ask for any favours.” He said neither he nor his wife had called for an ambulance prior to his call to Mr Hazzard.
tell you what, if someone close to us were unwell, the first call we made would be to some biohazard
totally
SCIENCE said:
LOL
it’s over
I cunt read all that, it’s behind a waypall
i’m sure it will have been through some of the whatever it is, an indeterminate indeterminacy maybe, but I can’t see the end of the casualized covid-induced zombification yet, the mass injury, the desensitization to that
australia doesn’t sound like individuals I might say also, sounds like a collective grouping
transition said:
Hard to keep up with all these new apple products
dv said:
transition said:Hard to keep up with all these new apple products
Yes. Once there were only Delicious & Granny Smiths.
and lastnight, or early this morn, did done read some, this and that
https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/journal.pcbi.1008892
the math geniuses like plenty to count, like infants chew on their toy abacus maybe
and read some this below also, I wondered if, how analogous it (covid) really is, might be
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu
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SCIENCE said:
LOL
it’s over
I cunt read all that, it’s behind a waypall
i’m sure it will have been through some of the whatever it is, an indeterminate indeterminacy maybe, but I can’t see the end of the casualized covid-induced zombification yet, the mass injury, the desensitization to that
australia doesn’t sound like individuals I might say also, sounds like a collective grouping
others have suggested methods of climbing past walls but in caution we’ll just cut you some of the best
At best, Australia may be through the pandemic in 2024, says Professor James Wood, an infectious disease modeller who has closely analysed the data since the first days of the pandemic. This doesn’t mean COVID-19 will vanish. It means it would have settled into a predictable annual event. Just as the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 eventually settled into a weaker winter disease, so COVID-19 is “a fair way along the path to a seasonal pattern”, Wood says. But this year, the changes in variants are still sufficient to cause out-of-season waves, says Wood, from the School of Population Health at UNSW, Sydney.
“annual” laugh fucking out loud, “seasonal” like the 5 seasons the UK had, obviously the changes will stop right
Because so many Australians have some form of immunity, through infection, vaccination or both. He says the human immune system has multiple components, each of which defends against the virus differently, making it harder for it to mutate and escape all the defences at once. … “While we expect smaller waves because fewer people test, testing is less available and people are less concerned, we also think the actual number of infections is probably going down, and that lots of people are almost asymptomatic or have such mild symptoms, they don’t recognise they have COVID-19.
a dream, two dreams
Then there’s the question of how to manage this stage of the pandemic. Australian public health experts are split. One side has very low tolerance for any COVID-19 risk and believes transmission can and should be prevented. The other side says as it has become very difficult to prevent transmission, the best option is to concentrate on reducing severe disease.
it’s not sides you fool, it’s different amounts of caring about morbidity and mortality
Wood’s view is that mandated use of masks and distancing would only lead to a short-term reduction in transmission and disease, even if these measures were maintained continuously. “If you drop transmission through mandated restrictions, immunity falls from lack of exposure and emergence of new variants. You end up more or less at the same level of population risk within a few months despite imposing restrictions on a large fraction of the population.
well, Wood’s wrong
Tamb said:
dv said:
transition said:
I cunt
Hard to keep up with all these new apple products
Yes. Once there were only Delicious & Granny Smiths.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Good morning. I’m late. My excuse is a thunderstorm around 7.00am and then a call next door to sort out Auntie Annie’s oxygen pump thing. Then I had to sit with her until her breathing stabilized. I do the chatting. She hasn’t got the breath for it. (Her son is in the house, but she cannot hail him. It’s a long story, apart from she hasn’t got the breath to call out. So she phones me to go over) Then I decided I deserved a chicken kiev pie for breakfast. The dogs were very interested in the storm…thunder and lightning! And heavy rain. Bruna came over to my side of the bed, pushed the curtains aside and looked out wagging her tail. These two have no fear at all of thunder. Which is a Good Thing.
Now there is washing up to do from last night. Mice were in again. They walked over the top of the catch and release trap and they et the parmesan off the snap trap. I’ll reset the snap trap…usually I have to put up with them getting the bait for two or three times before they get careless. I was going to mow grass…but it’s sopping wet now.
You are going to have to fine tune the trap releases to a hair trigger. Rub the rust off the wires or something.
speaking of hair trigger
surprised this wasn’t more well known
but again they conveniently neglect to mention something that would eradicate like 90% of infectious disease and more immediately relevantly, save you from getting completely fucked by this tree
https://www.amusingplanet.com/2021/06/gympie-gympie-stinging-plant-which-can.html
Worse still, the plant constantly sheds its needles like a cat shedding fur. The needles remain suspended in the air near the plant’s vicinity, where it can be inhaled by an unsuspecting victim causing respiratory complications. Marina Hurley was exposed to airborne hairs over a long period of time. She suffered sneezing fits, watery eyes and nose, and eventually developed an allergy that required medical attention.
W.V. MacFarlane, Professorial Fellow in Physiology at the John Curtin School of Medical Research at the Australian National University, observed the effects of inhaling the trichomes (or hairs). He reported:
The plucking of hairs from the leaves invariably produces sneezing in the operator within 10 or 15 minutes. During early attempts to separate stinging hairs from dried leaves, dust and presumably some hairs were inhaled. Initially they produced sneezing, but within three hours there was diffuse nasopharyngeal pain, and after 26 hours a sensation of an acute sore throat like tonsillitis was experienced.
oh look, someone with intelligence hoping to keep it
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
it’s over
I cunt read all that, it’s behind a waypall
i’m sure it will have been through some of the whatever it is, an indeterminate indeterminacy maybe, but I can’t see the end of the casualized covid-induced zombification yet, the mass injury, the desensitization to that
australia doesn’t sound like individuals I might say also, sounds like a collective grouping
others have suggested methods of climbing past walls but in caution we’ll just cut you some of the best
At best, Australia may be through the pandemic in 2024, says Professor James Wood, an infectious disease modeller who has closely analysed the data since the first days of the pandemic. This doesn’t mean COVID-19 will vanish. It means it would have settled into a predictable annual event. Just as the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 eventually settled into a weaker winter disease, so COVID-19 is “a fair way along the path to a seasonal pattern”, Wood says. But this year, the changes in variants are still sufficient to cause out-of-season waves, says Wood, from the School of Population Health at UNSW, Sydney.
“annual” laugh fucking out loud, “seasonal” like the 5 seasons the UK had, obviously the changes will stop right
Because so many Australians have some form of immunity, through infection, vaccination or both. He says the human immune system has multiple components, each of which defends against the virus differently, making it harder for it to mutate and escape all the defences at once. … “While we expect smaller waves because fewer people test, testing is less available and people are less concerned, we also think the actual number of infections is probably going down, and that lots of people are almost asymptomatic or have such mild symptoms, they don’t recognise they have COVID-19.
a dream, two dreams
Then there’s the question of how to manage this stage of the pandemic. Australian public health experts are split. One side has very low tolerance for any COVID-19 risk and believes transmission can and should be prevented. The other side says as it has become very difficult to prevent transmission, the best option is to concentrate on reducing severe disease.
it’s not sides you fool, it’s different amounts of caring about morbidity and mortality
Wood’s view is that mandated use of masks and distancing would only lead to a short-term reduction in transmission and disease, even if these measures were maintained continuously. “If you drop transmission through mandated restrictions, immunity falls from lack of exposure and emergence of new variants. You end up more or less at the same level of population risk within a few months despite imposing restrictions on a large fraction of the population.
well, Wood’s wrong
apologies for the freudian typo, it’s a sort of complex tourette syndrome, involving lurching vocalizations caused by repression, which can involve bursts of typing into rectangles, and quite detailed explanations extending to long paragraphs and even multiple paragraphs, which appear strangely considered, it’s not something I have any control over, the doctors are working on it
God knows why, who knows how minds work, but I had a flicker of activity in my neuron and wondered just how much injury covid has caused and is causing, perhaps it’s so much that if acknowledged it potentially would be embarrassing, I further wondered if it were bad enough what people might do and say to normalize that, if a program of desensitization might help, be deployed
I had the heretical idea that the cranium housed an organ that exhibited evident characteristics that helped avoid injury, that people commonly avoided injury, that the CNS might be attributed a proximate function for survival, that involves avoiding injury, disease, and not unrelated premature death
granted it sort of sounds like a friendly darwinian medicine to mention it, revelatory perhaps, and of course it raises the possibly that not all darwinian medicine is friendly, or medicine
we don’t know who this Sarah Newey bot is but it certainly seems naive
we mean obviously the whole point is to apportion blame or rather focus it onto someone, nobody cares about actual improvements as long as someone takes the heat
very fine people on both sides
lying so-called “experts” again
SCIENCE said:
lying so-called “experts” again
we don’t need thinkers we need voters
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
lying so-called “experts” again
we don’t need thinkers we need voters
could be worse we guess
https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1638524557421170688
clowns in the circus
wait didn’t someone say there are shitloads of empty investment properties all over Australia that should just be wealth redistributed
… well, if our hospitals ever fill up …
Cancer Is Good For The Immune System
Better Pay Off That Immune Debt
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/22/biden-disband-covid-team/
conspiracy theorist
dirty
but legit’
SCIENCE said:
what
the
fuck
has me proper read that in the morn, but what will say in response to this post and another, is that don’t expect things to necessarily make sense in the context a highly contagious pathogen has been released for normalization, where critical threshold for no-turning-back was sought via a vote involving and toward vaccine alone, where everyone becomes involved in releasing then normalizing a highly injurious pathogen being anywhere and everywhere
and be sure it is physically highly injurious, and in peculiar ways morally injurious
liberal culture is very effective at fading even terrible things into the oblivion of normal, diminished responsibility
transition said:
SCIENCE said:what
the
fuck
has me proper read that in the morn, but what will say in response to this post and another, is that don’t expect things to necessarily make sense in the context a highly contagious pathogen has been released for normalization, where critical threshold for no-turning-back was sought via a vote involving and toward vaccine alone, where everyone becomes involved in releasing then normalizing a highly injurious pathogen being anywhere and everywhere
and be sure it is physically highly injurious, and in peculiar ways morally injurious
liberal culture is very effective at fading even terrible things into the oblivion of normal, diminished responsibility
the potential monstrous embarrassment for the covidmongers is that covid injury, the range and character of the injury profile (including prevalence), puts it easily within the range of serious disease-causing pathogen that ordinarily unlimited transmission wouldn’t be accepted
so something happened evidently
that something seems to be, that it was declared too contagious to contain (in context modern global transport), and of course the hosts need vanish that from their minds, their contribution to making it more contagious, how relaxed attitude toward it makes it more contagious
plenty darwinian arseholes to help make it so
now we know everyone’s just making up the numbers
actually we found the answer
In Other Breaking News, Viruses Hijack Host Cells
oh wait
“This particular finding is quite unique and has not been seen in other coronaviruses before,” said Wenbo Li, PhD, senior author on the study and associate professor in the Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology with McGovern Medical School at UTHealth Houston. “What we found here is a unique mechanism of SARS-CoV-2 that is associated with its severe impacts on human health.”
they actually mean more than typical coevolved tolerated viruses
SCIENCE said:
In Other Breaking News, Viruses Hijack Host Cells
oh wait
“This particular finding is quite unique and has not been seen in other coronaviruses before,” said Wenbo Li, PhD, senior author on the study and associate professor in the Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology with McGovern Medical School at UTHealth Houston. “What we found here is a unique mechanism of SARS-CoV-2 that is associated with its severe impacts on human health.”
they actually mean more than typical coevolved tolerated viruses
reading that, cheers, master science
apparently gender affirming new zealanders do masks
all right we support that
transition said:
SCIENCE said:In Other Breaking News, Viruses Hijack Host Cells
oh wait
“This particular finding is quite unique and has not been seen in other coronaviruses before,” said Wenbo Li, PhD, senior author on the study and associate professor in the Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology with McGovern Medical School at UTHealth Houston. “What we found here is a unique mechanism of SARS-CoV-2 that is associated with its severe impacts on human health.”
they actually mean more than typical coevolved tolerated viruses
reading that, cheers, master science
cheers again, I hope it doesn’t go to requiring more infections to collect more data, and measure the nonsense into further existence, seems to be where the bullshit is at these days
like the dark darwinian masters of data took over the show, apparently it’s possible to have a keen interest in math and whatever, data, minus any morality
transition said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
In Other Breaking News, Viruses Hijack Host Cells
oh wait
“This particular finding is quite unique and has not been seen in other coronaviruses before,” said Wenbo Li, PhD, senior author on the study and associate professor in the Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology with McGovern Medical School at UTHealth Houston. “What we found here is a unique mechanism of SARS-CoV-2 that is associated with its severe impacts on human health.”
they actually mean more than typical coevolved tolerated viruses
reading that, cheers, master science
cheers again, I hope it doesn’t go to requiring more infections to collect more data, and measure the nonsense into further existence, seems to be where the bullshit is at these days
like the dark darwinian masters of data took over the show, apparently it’s possible to have a keen interest in math and whatever, data, minus any morality
minus reality as well, it’s pure reason, model it all and go happily murdering
mechanistic understanding of disease is too difficult, stick with The Economic numbers Must Grow because they don’t breathe
oops
Maxine Roy, a spokesperson for the city, said geese found at Country Glen Stormwater Pond tested positive for avian flu, also known as bird flu.
oops
personal responsibility
A hiker has died after falling 40 metres during a climb at the Glasshouse Mountains on the Sunshine Coast, while two other men were injured in separate incidents. Queensland Ambulance Service operations supervisor Leighton Allen said the woman’s death was a tragedy.
meanwhile the 16 deaths from a single preventable infectious disease were a necessary good for The Economy Must Grow and nobody should mention it
oh wait up
SCIENCE said:
oh wait up
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/six-in-10-people-in-britain-now-suffer-from-brain-fog-on-a-daily-basis/ar-AA194TG2
I reads some news, a neuron derr, has me a thinkies
I wonders, has me an open wonders, shares my thoughts
is it really a natural pandemic in any sense, in the case the virus is let go for the purposes of building herd immunity, in the context the injuries caused, full scope of injuries, the injury profile is not fully known and causes of the injuries unknown, and there are a lot of injuries
is it really a natural pandemic
if it doesn’t qualify as a natural pandemic then it must be something else, perhaps an unnatural pandemic
SCIENCE said:
oh wait up
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
oh wait up
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/six-in-10-people-in-britain-now-suffer-from-brain-fog-on-a-daily-basis/ar-AA194TG2
I reads some news, a neuron derr, has me a thinkies
I wonders, has me an open wonders, shares my thoughts
is it really a natural pandemic in any sense, in the case the virus is let go for the purposes of building herd immunity, in the context the injuries caused, full scope of injuries, the injury profile is not fully known and causes of the injuries unknown, and there are a lot of injuries
is it really a natural pandemic
if it doesn’t qualify as a natural pandemic then it must be something else, perhaps an unnatural pandemic
not sure we’d trust any source called “Daily Mail” or “food supplements firm FutureYou Cambridge” though
LOL FUCK
not sure if it’s the biggest swing we’ve ever seen but damn
guess someone didn’t like the health minister
nah must just have been because the old guy was retiring
The seat has been represented for half of its existence by current MP and Health Minister Brad Hazzard. He is retiring at the 2023 election.
SCIENCE said:
not sure if it’s the biggest swing we’ve ever seen but damn
guess someone didn’t like the health minister
nah must just have been because the old guy was retiring
The seat has been represented for half of its existence by current MP and Health Minister Brad Hazzard. He is retiring at the 2023 election.
Also, they are comparing a 2PP between Lib and ALP with a 2PP between Lib and Teal. It’s not exactly apples and oranges.
SCIENCE said:
not sure if it’s the biggest swing we’ve ever seen but damn
guess someone didn’t like the health minister
nah must just have been because the old guy was retiring
The seat has been represented for half of its existence by current MP and Health Minister Brad Hazzard. He is retiring at the 2023 election.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
not sure if it’s the biggest swing we’ve ever seen but damn
guess someone didn’t like the health minister
nah must just have been because the old guy was retiring
The seat has been represented for half of its existence by current MP and Health Minister Brad Hazzard. He is retiring at the 2023 election.
SCIENCE said:
LOL FUCK
/…last image cut by me master transition…/
all good, master science, neurological symptoms probably only temporary, in those that survive
possibly a little more permanent in those that don’t survive, not my expert field, couldn’t be sure
sorry we don’t understand
what is the problem with purifying the society by releasing the weak, the genetically inferior, and the constitutionally unwell
hey look good news
oh shit wait
Published : Mar 27, 2019 – 18:33 Updated : Mar 27, 2019 – 18:33
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20190327000802
wow KOREA those damn ASIANS are like time-travelling gods
The South Korean government on Tuesday passed a revised school health act to improve quality of air and safety at preschools and primary and secondary schools. The revised law was one of five fine dust-related legislations that passed the same day.
yeah they must have known something was up, they invented the virus to sell more filters, The Economy Must Grow, that GNUSMAS company for example
SCIENCE said:
sorry we don’t understand
what is the problem with purifying the society by releasing the weak, the genetically inferior, and the constitutionally unwell
all helps take your mind off the mass injury, contribution schools make to transmission
but ssshhh, don’t tell anyone, it’s a secret
transition said:
SCIENCE said:sorry we don’t understand
what is the problem with purifying the society by releasing the weak, the genetically inferior, and the constitutionally unwell
all helps take your mind off the mass injury, contribution schools make to transmission
but ssshhh, don’t tell anyone, it’s a secret
Deny everything Baldrick.
allegedly
so it’s good news ¡ on a whole population level, since additional risk of death halves each step, infinite infections will only kill you twice as much as one infection ¡ oh and if you are over 40 then 3.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 times as much
right
SCIENCE said:
allegedly
so it’s good news ¡ on a whole population level, since additional risk of death halves each step, infinite infections will only kill you twice as much as one infection ¡ oh and if you are over 40 then 3.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 times as much
right
If you stay away from people, you should be ok.
so as expected the “randomly caught at a wet market after natural virus jumped directly from bats to humans” and the “invented as a bioweapon then exported from a research laboratory” fuckfests are converging on the narrative that allows both sides to be correct and wrong at the same time
idiots are defining “natural” as “was brought from outside into laboratory so all good when it lets itself back out” and “artificial” as “humans moved it so they made it” perhaps there are gaps in each story that the other fills
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
allegedly
so it’s good news ¡ on a whole population level, since additional risk of death halves each step, infinite infections will only kill you twice as much as one infection ¡ oh and if you are over 40 then 3.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 times as much
right
If you stay away from people, you should be ok.
your risk of dying will still be 100% so now what
SCIENCE said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
allegedly
so it’s good news ¡ on a whole population level, since additional risk of death halves each step, infinite infections will only kill you twice as much as one infection ¡ oh and if you are over 40 then 3.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 times as much
right
If you stay away from people, you should be ok.
your risk of dying will still be 100% so now what
Only if you contract the virus.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
If you stay away from people, you should be ok.
your risk of dying will still be 100% so now what
Only if you contract the virus.
sorry we plan to 100% die even without contracting the virus, it might not be our favourite process in this universe but we’re still anticipating that dying
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
your risk of dying will still be 100% so now what
Only if you contract the virus.
sorry we plan to 100% die even without contracting the virus, it might not be our favourite process in this universe but we’re still anticipating that dying
:)
This my friend is our fate.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:roughbarked said:
Only if you contract the virus.
sorry we plan to 100% die even without contracting the virus, it might not be our favourite process in this universe but we’re still anticipating that dying
:)
This my friend is our fate.
and you manipulated the golaposts.
SCIENCE said:
so as expected the “randomly caught at a wet market after natural virus jumped directly from bats to humans” and the “invented as a bioweapon then exported from a research laboratory” fuckfests are converging on the narrative that allows both sides to be correct and wrong at the same time
idiots are defining “natural” as “was brought from outside into laboratory so all good when it lets itself back out” and “artificial” as “humans moved it so they made it” perhaps there are gaps in each story that the other fills
in case our point isn’t clear both sides are going to go “see see we told you, this was a natural virus that spread without nefarious intent” and “see see we told you, this virus was being processed in a laboratory and it leaked out” and keep clawing at each other
which as we all know is the problem with using an investigation not merely to find the underlying causes to improve understanding and preventative measures, but to apportion blame and punitive measures, it totally encourages cooperation
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
sorry we plan to 100% die even without contracting the virus, it might not be our favourite process in this universe but we’re still anticipating that dying
:)
This my friend is our fate.
and you manipulated the golaposts.
no we didn’t, we only changed which ones you were looking at, from
to
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
so as expected the “randomly caught at a wet market after natural virus jumped directly from bats to humans” and the “invented as a bioweapon then exported from a research laboratory” fuckfests are converging on the narrative that allows both sides to be correct and wrong at the same time
idiots are defining “natural” as “was brought from outside into laboratory so all good when it lets itself back out” and “artificial” as “humans moved it so they made it” perhaps there are gaps in each story that the other fills
in case our point isn’t clear both sides are going to go “see see we told you, this was a natural virus that spread without nefarious intent” and “see see we told you, this virus was being processed in a laboratory and it leaked out” and keep clawing at each other
which as we all know is the problem with using an investigation not merely to find the underlying causes to improve understanding and preventative measures, but to apportion blame and punitive measures, it totally encourages cooperation
oh look, some try to conflate “originate” with “spread” so that the right people can be made responsible, while others are more interested in technical aspects, damn
point cases, and amusements
from
https://twitter.com/jbkinney/status/1639996277290090496
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
:)
This my friend is our fate.
and you manipulated the golaposts.
no we didn’t, we only changed which ones you were looking at, from
to
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
so as expected the “randomly caught at a wet market after natural virus jumped directly from bats to humans” and the “invented as a bioweapon then exported from a research laboratory” fuckfests are converging on the narrative that allows both sides to be correct and wrong at the same time
idiots are defining “natural” as “was brought from outside into laboratory so all good when it lets itself back out” and “artificial” as “humans moved it so they made it” perhaps there are gaps in each story that the other fills
in case our point isn’t clear both sides are going to go “see see we told you, this was a natural virus that spread without nefarious intent” and “see see we told you, this virus was being processed in a laboratory and it leaked out” and keep clawing at each other
which as we all know is the problem with using an investigation not merely to find the underlying causes to improve understanding and preventative measures, but to apportion blame and punitive measures, it totally encourages cooperation
oh look, some try to conflate “originate” with “spread” so that the right people can be made responsible, while others are more interested in technical aspects, damn
point cases, and amusements
from
https://twitter.com/jbkinney/status/1639996277290090496
just a hunch, but reckons the darwinian arseholery is evolving to help avoid the embarrassment of the mass injury, mass injury caused by liberal covid
of course you need as many people as possible involved in that, I doubt it will be a problem getting the numbers to swing it
oh look so-called “expert” made a mistake ahahahahaha
oh shit
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
in case our point isn’t clear both sides are going to go “see see we told you, this was a natural virus that spread without nefarious intent” and “see see we told you, this virus was being processed in a laboratory and it leaked out” and keep clawing at each other
which as we all know is the problem with using an investigation not merely to find the underlying causes to improve understanding and preventative measures, but to apportion blame and punitive measures, it totally encourages cooperation
oh look, some try to conflate “originate” with “spread” so that the right people can be made responsible, while others are more interested in technical aspects, damn
point cases, and amusements
from
https://twitter.com/jbkinney/status/1639996277290090496
just a hunch, but reckons the darwinian arseholery is evolving to help avoid the embarrassment of the mass injury, mass injury caused by liberal covid
of course you need as many people as possible involved in that, I doubt it will be a problem getting the numbers to swing it
If Only We Can Pin The Blame On The Cuntry It Was First Found In (Imagine If Strong Surveillance Systems Were The Things That Find Viruses), Then We Can Blamelessly Continue Spreading It Forever More¡
here this fella may explain it better for yous than us
SCIENCE said:
I’m sure they told you Kate.
SCIENCE said:
oh look so-called “expert” made a mistake ahahahahaha
oh shit
when medicine stopped being medicine and hospitals stopped being hospitals, the usual thing is the community exercised basic prophylaxis to reduce illness (including what might progress to requiring a hospital), but you know if you can relax things enough, of hospitals (medicine), and schools for example, what incentive is there for the community to exercise basic prophylaxis
still I think the binary of dead/alive distracts from injury, not sure humans, or all humans are reliable that way, that death is preceded by injury could be inconvenient, of the broader range of injuries, say variously sequelae also, whatever
the binary situation is easier to count though, and maybe that’s where things are at, which i’d suggest inclines desensitization to even deaths
but helps with ‘normal’, doesn’t matter that normal might be a mongrel indifference, distributed enough nobody’s hardly responsible
and barely responsible has a comfortable libertarian dimension
don’t think for a moment libertarian culture amplifies anything like group responsibility, necessarily
save everyone turning socialist, or communist
probably start by dissolving government funded medicine, that’s surely the road to socialism, and who can afford it anyway, already problems with the mountain of debt and collecting taxes to provide services, the poor people are a threat to honest wealth disparities
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
oh look so-called “expert” made a mistake ahahahahaha
oh shit
when medicine stopped being medicine and hospitals stopped being hospitals, the usual thing is the community exercised basic prophylaxis to reduce illness (including what might progress to requiring a hospital), but you know if you can relax things enough, of hospitals (medicine), and schools for example, what incentive is there for the community to exercise basic prophylaxis
still I think the binary of dead/alive distracts from injury, not sure humans, or all humans are reliable that way, that death is preceded by injury could be inconvenient, of the broader range of injuries, say variously sequelae also, whatever
the binary situation is easier to count though, and maybe that’s where things are at, which i’d suggest inclines desensitization to even deaths
but helps with ‘normal’, doesn’t matter that normal might be a mongrel indifference, distributed enough nobody’s hardly responsible
and barely responsible has a comfortable libertarian dimension
don’t think for a moment libertarian culture amplifies anything like group responsibility, necessarily
save everyone turning socialist, or communist
probably start by dissolving government funded medicine, that’s surely the road to socialism, and who can afford it anyway, already problems with the mountain of debt and collecting taxes to provide services, the poor people are a threat to honest wealth disparities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_hospitals
Nightingale was instrumental in reforming the nature of the hospital, by improving sanitation standards and changing the image of the hospital from a place the sick would go to die, to an institution devoted to recuperation and healing. She also emphasized the importance of statistical measurement for determining the success rate of a given intervention and pushed for administrative reform at hospitals.
well damn we wouldn’t have thought those 497 bots and virtual reality trolls could catch actual physically real human viruses
SCIENCE said:
well damn we wouldn’t have thought those 497 bots and virtual reality trolls could catch actual physically real human viruses
not sure about the neutrality of the wording of that poll, Q1 and Q2, and together sequentially as wrote, but whatever
the reality on the ground is probably that diminished(and diminishing) responsibility is tied to the commonplaceness of infection, the prevalence, commonality, and unknown prevalence, faded capture, and faded apprehension
imagine the win for diminished responsibility translated to community attitudes if you can get covid floating around in hospitals
three years ago it might have been considered ethical and moral corruption, but humans proves themselves highly adaptable again
an evolving species
transition said:
three years ago it might have been considered ethical and moral corruption, but humans proves themselves highly adaptable again
an evolving species
LOL
LOL
yousall complain that we’re too optessimistic but get a load of this
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200902-the-grim-truth-behind-the-pied-piper
But if the tale evokes a universal fear, it still resonates most strongly in Hamelin – and the Piper’s tour suggests why. In fact, the real surprise of his tour isn’t so much the beautifully preserved townscape but the suggestion that the Pied Piper is much more than just a fairy tale. The Grimm Brothers and Browning may have shaped the legend into art, but the story, it turns out, is likely based on an actual historical incident.
If the tale suggests a possible historical tragedy, though, it also offers an artistic redemption as well. “The Pied Piper story,” said Reimer, preparing for the debut of her exhibit on 26 June, “is to our knowledge known in at least 42 countries and 30 languages, maybe more. And it appears in international art, literature and music. The Pied Piper is a shared heritage of many people, and that cultural heritage connects people.” Ultimately, then, the Piper didn’t just fracture a community. He also, in the end, brought a larger one together.
well that makes it all right then
>
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
three years ago it might have been considered ethical and moral corruption, but humans proves themselves highly adaptable again
an evolving species
LOL
yousall complain that we’re too optessimistic but get a load of this
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200902-the-grim-truth-behind-the-pied-piper
But if the tale evokes a universal fear, it still resonates most strongly in Hamelin – and the Piper’s tour suggests why. In fact, the real surprise of his tour isn’t so much the beautifully preserved townscape but the suggestion that the Pied Piper is much more than just a fairy tale. The Grimm Brothers and Browning may have shaped the legend into art, but the story, it turns out, is likely based on an actual historical incident.
If the tale suggests a possible historical tragedy, though, it also offers an artistic redemption as well. “The Pied Piper story,” said Reimer, preparing for the debut of her exhibit on 26 June, “is to our knowledge known in at least 42 countries and 30 languages, maybe more. And it appears in international art, literature and music. The Pied Piper is a shared heritage of many people, and that cultural heritage connects people.” Ultimately, then, the Piper didn’t just fracture a community. He also, in the end, brought a larger one together.
well that makes it all right then
OMG. Mortality excess still high in Europe.
Which part of Europe: eastern Europe again, Hungary and surrounds, or other?
Oh, it’s only 0 to 14 year olds. So that’s OK :-(
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
three years ago it might have been considered ethical and moral corruption, but humans proves themselves highly adaptable again
an evolving species
LOL
LOL
yousall complain that we’re too optessimistic but get a load of this
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200902-the-grim-truth-behind-the-pied-piper
But if the tale evokes a universal fear, it still resonates most strongly in Hamelin – and the Piper’s tour suggests why. In fact, the real surprise of his tour isn’t so much the beautifully preserved townscape but the suggestion that the Pied Piper is much more than just a fairy tale. The Grimm Brothers and Browning may have shaped the legend into art, but the story, it turns out, is likely based on an actual historical incident.
If the tale suggests a possible historical tragedy, though, it also offers an artistic redemption as well. “The Pied Piper story,” said Reimer, preparing for the debut of her exhibit on 26 June, “is to our knowledge known in at least 42 countries and 30 languages, maybe more. And it appears in international art, literature and music. The Pied Piper is a shared heritage of many people, and that cultural heritage connects people.” Ultimately, then, the Piper didn’t just fracture a community. He also, in the end, brought a larger one together.
well that makes it all right then
sorry we forgot to add
LOL
questionable though, look at 2019, what was that
mollwollfumble said:
>SCIENCE said:
transition said:
three years ago it might have been considered ethical and moral corruption, but humans proves themselves highly adaptable again
an evolving species
LOL
yousall complain that we’re too optessimistic but get a load of this
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200902-the-grim-truth-behind-the-pied-piper
But if the tale evokes a universal fear, it still resonates most strongly in Hamelin – and the Piper’s tour suggests why. In fact, the real surprise of his tour isn’t so much the beautifully preserved townscape but the suggestion that the Pied Piper is much more than just a fairy tale. The Grimm Brothers and Browning may have shaped the legend into art, but the story, it turns out, is likely based on an actual historical incident.
If the tale suggests a possible historical tragedy, though, it also offers an artistic redemption as well. “The Pied Piper story,” said Reimer, preparing for the debut of her exhibit on 26 June, “is to our knowledge known in at least 42 countries and 30 languages, maybe more. And it appears in international art, literature and music. The Pied Piper is a shared heritage of many people, and that cultural heritage connects people.” Ultimately, then, the Piper didn’t just fracture a community. He also, in the end, brought a larger one together.
well that makes it all right then
OMG. Mortality excess still high in Europe.
Which part of Europe: eastern Europe again, Hungary and surrounds, or other?
Oh, it’s only 0 to 14 year olds. So that’s OK :-(
Russia “we give you job, travel, lots of excitement explosions, bullets and shit , mortality might increase though”
Cymek said:
mollwollfumble said:
>SCIENCE said:
LOL
yousall complain that we’re too optessimistic but get a load of this
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200902-the-grim-truth-behind-the-pied-piper
But if the tale evokes a universal fear, it still resonates most strongly in Hamelin – and the Piper’s tour suggests why. In fact, the real surprise of his tour isn’t so much the beautifully preserved townscape but the suggestion that the Pied Piper is much more than just a fairy tale. The Grimm Brothers and Browning may have shaped the legend into art, but the story, it turns out, is likely based on an actual historical incident.
If the tale suggests a possible historical tragedy, though, it also offers an artistic redemption as well. “The Pied Piper story,” said Reimer, preparing for the debut of her exhibit on 26 June, “is to our knowledge known in at least 42 countries and 30 languages, maybe more. And it appears in international art, literature and music. The Pied Piper is a shared heritage of many people, and that cultural heritage connects people.” Ultimately, then, the Piper didn’t just fracture a community. He also, in the end, brought a larger one together.
well that makes it all right then
OMG. Mortality excess still high in Europe.
Which part of Europe: eastern Europe again, Hungary and surrounds, or other?
Oh, it’s only 0 to 14 year olds. So that’s OK :-(
Russia “we give you job, travel, lots of excitement explosions, bullets and shit , mortality
might increase thoughensured”
…
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
mollwollfumble said:
>
OMG. Mortality excess still high in Europe.
Which part of Europe: eastern Europe again, Hungary and surrounds, or other?
Oh, it’s only 0 to 14 year olds. So that’s OK :-(
Russia “we give you job, travel, lots of excitement explosions, bullets and shit , mortality
might increase thoughensured”
…
it’s good for them, since they will die young they get a chance to see the world beforehand
aha we knew it, fuck CHINA, yet another laboratory leak
why let them off the hook though
Make Them Pay™¡
SCIENCE said:
aha we knew it, fuck CHINA, yet another laboratory leak
another dirty ASIAN again from Chongqing no less
Disease control authorities say a woman in Chongqing tested positive for a virus that had features of two Omicron strains
The woman tested positive in two samples for a virus that contained features of subvariants BA.5.2.48 and BF.7.14, according to the paper on China CDC Weekly.
The patient first tested positive for Covid-19 on December 29, as the country was in the grip of infections in the aftermath of its sudden abandonment of the zero-Covid policy. She was admitted to a county traditional Chinese medicine hospital on January 4 and discharged the following day. She continued to feel unwell and was admitted on January 6 to the Third Affiliated Hospital of Chongqing Medical University, a larger hospital with a specialist infectious disease department. She continued testing positive until February 12. The coinfection was detected in upper respiratory tract samples collected from her on January 28 and February 7.
good news, now just need chemtrails to deliver
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-37290-6
Oh what’s this¿
Pope Francis has a respiratory infection and will need to spend “a few days” in hospital for treatment, according to a Vatican statement. The statement said the 86-year-old pontiff had complained of breathing difficulties in recent days. It added that tests showed he did not have COVID-19.
Why is mentioning SARACAIDS-CoV relevant¿ We thought the pandemic was over¡
SCIENCE said:
Oh what’s this¿
Pope Francis has a respiratory infection and will need to spend “a few days” in hospital for treatment, according to a Vatican statement. The statement said the 86-year-old pontiff had complained of breathing difficulties in recent days. It added that tests showed he did not have COVID-19.
Why is mentioning SARACAIDS-CoV relevant¿ We thought the pandemic was over¡
it’s uncovid, uncoviding
I just read couple pages of news, I notices a pattern, a continuing pattern, a pattern pattern, a recursion
understatement of long covid or variously sequelae, millions stated where the real number is hundreds of millions, of course it’s not technically incorrect, there are millions in hundreds of millions
and the other bullshit, it sort of went most long covid is gone after a year, i’m not sure how they arrived at a year, some magic, the yearly reset of a calendar year I guess
the hoodoo continues, be sure culture runs on hoodoo these days, needs a machine to keep it churning 24/7 non-stop
the descension into darwinian arseholery that passes for morality these days
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and the other bullshit, it sort of went most long covid is gone after a year, i’m not sure how they arrived at a year, some magic, the yearly reset of a calendar year I guess
well that one is easy, virtually all CHINA residents and most of Australians have not had COVID-19 barely a year ago, “there is no evidence of chronic COVID-19 lasting more than a year in CHINA men or Real Australians, see”, see
the turn around here with violent and spiteful trolling is quite remarkable
https://twitter.com/nick_coatsworth/status/1641245267788955648
SCIENCE said:
the turn around here with violent and spiteful trolling is quite remarkable
https://twitter.com/nick_coatsworth/status/1641245267788955648
filled with amusements that thread
transition said:
SCIENCE said:the turn around here with violent and spiteful trolling is quite remarkable
https://twitter.com/nick_coatsworth/status/1641245267788955648
filled with amusements that thread
twitter page, whatever
transition said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
the turn around here with violent and spiteful trolling is quite remarkable
https://twitter.com/nick_coatsworth/status/1641245267788955648
filled with amusements that thread
twitter page, whatever
don’t worry future waves are expected
https://twitter.com/BigBadDenis/status/1641270286644543488
they also whispered “and inevitable and necessary” but the transcribers didn’t hear it
a lesson in correlation and causation
LOL nice language
“reflective”
what was the mechanism though we wonder
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
transition said:
filled with amusements that thread
twitter page, whatever
don’t worry future waves are expected
https://twitter.com/BigBadDenis/status/1641270286644543488
they also whispered “and inevitable and necessary” but the transcribers didn’t hear it
dear God, give us a break, it’s a constant wave of mass maiming, spare me the bullshit, covidmonger normal, hellscape of derr
SCIENCE said:
a lesson in correlation and causation
LOL nice language
“reflective”
what was the mechanism though we wonder
covidmonger normal, darwinian arseholery
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darwinian arseholery
speaking of, we’re sure most of yous are wise and clever and don’t need us to point this out but for posterity
oops sorry we meant to paste these ones
in case you didn’t catch it
“novelty is severity” is a statement of host evolution, not “immunity build”
(well, sure, the immune system of hosts does evolve, there is that)
which means that a 50 year lifetime (seems short for modern “economies” doesn’t it) of “building immunity” which “will protect” is actually just
survivorship bias
(yes yes, no shit, it’s the purest and finalest form of selection, selection which is the driver of evolution)
Globally, as of 9:19am CEST, 29 March 2023, there have been 761,402,282 confirmed cases of COVID-19, including 6,887,000 deaths, reported to WHO. As of 27 March 2023, a total of 13,331,626,129 vaccine doses have been administered.
monkey skipper said:
Globally, as of 9:19am CEST, 29 March 2023, there have been 761,402,282 confirmed cases of COVID-19, including 6,887,000 deaths, reported to WHO. As of 27 March 2023, a total of 13,331,626,129 vaccine doses have been administered.
Still Covid-free this end. Have had 5 x shots.
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
Globally, as of 9:19am CEST, 29 March 2023, there have been 761,402,282 confirmed cases of COVID-19, including 6,887,000 deaths, reported to WHO. As of 27 March 2023, a total of 13,331,626,129 vaccine doses have been administered.
Still Covid-free this end. Have had 5 x shots.
good
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
Globally, as of 9:19am CEST, 29 March 2023, there have been 761,402,282 confirmed cases of COVID-19, including 6,887,000 deaths, reported to WHO. As of 27 March 2023, a total of 13,331,626,129 vaccine doses have been administered.
Still Covid-free this end. Have had 5 x shots.
Same here.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
Globally, as of 9:19am CEST, 29 March 2023, there have been 761,402,282 confirmed cases of COVID-19, including 6,887,000 deaths, reported to WHO. As of 27 March 2023, a total of 13,331,626,129 vaccine doses have been administered.
Still Covid-free this end. Have had 5 x shots.
Same here.
didn’t you say you sampled some virus like 1 years ago
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Still Covid-free this end. Have had 5 x shots.
Same here.
didn’t you say you sampled some virus like 1 years ago
? not Covid.
I’ve had Ross River or should I say, I’m still having it because that’s the nature of it. I’ve also had MAC which is atypical TB.
No Covid, no flu. nada.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Same here.
didn’t you say you sampled some virus like 1 years ago
? not Covid.
I’ve had Ross River or should I say, I’m still having it because that’s the nature of it. I’ve also had MAC which is atypical TB.
No Covid, no flu. nada.
we’ll take your word for it
good
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
didn’t you say you sampled some virus like 1 years ago
? not Covid.
I’ve had Ross River or should I say, I’m still having it because that’s the nature of it. I’ve also had MAC which is atypical TB.
No Covid, no flu. nada.
we’ll take your word for it
good
I had to have a PCR test to go to get injections in my spine and it was negative.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
? not Covid.
I’ve had Ross River or should I say, I’m still having it because that’s the nature of it. I’ve also had MAC which is atypical TB.
No Covid, no flu. nada.
we’ll take your word for it
good
I had to have a PCR test to go to get injections in my spine and it was negative.
no worries
we gave up on all the testing ages ago, money far better spent on prevention
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
we’ll take your word for it
good
I had to have a PCR test to go to get injections in my spine and it was negative.
no worries
we gave up on all the testing ages ago, money far better spent on prevention
get out there, inhale some covid, build your immune system up, be part of the herd immunity
get some resilience
transition said:
SCIENCE said:roughbarked said:
I had to have a PCR test to go to get injections in my spine and it was negative.
no worries
we gave up on all the testing ages ago, money far better spent on prevention
get out there, inhale some covid, build your immune system up, be part of the herd immunity
get some resilience
Ha ha. Did you miss the TB thing? I had a hole in my lung. Now it is healed but it is all scar tissue, which equates to emphysema.
I would probably die from a mild flu, let alone Covid.
monkey skipper said:
Globally, as of 9:19am CEST, 29 March 2023, there have been 761,402,282 confirmed cases of COVID-19, including 6,887,000 deaths, reported to WHO. As of 27 March 2023, a total of 13,331,626,129 vaccine doses have been administered.
“….there have been 761,402,282 confirmed cases….”
funny business, put confirmed in front of cases, make that confirmed cases, and confirmed actually gives it more authority, when the number is unlikely to represent real infection numbers, anything like it
so confirmed lends to instrumental measurement fade, intentionalized capture fade, offers cover, a device that way, useful understatement
oh yeah ¿ What empire did all their CHINA chess get them then ¿ So tough and strong
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oh yeah ¿ What empire did all their CHINA chess get them then ¿ So tough and strong
Now there’s a game I’ve bever seen nor heard of before.
sorry for laughing out lout but
we mean we’ll probably laugh at it again next time we see it, for the first time
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
darwinian arseholery
speaking of, we’re sure most of yous are wise and clever and don’t need us to point this out but for posterity
oops sorry we meant to paste these ones
in case you didn’t catch it
“novelty is severity” is a statement of host evolution, not “immunity build”
(well, sure, the immune system of hosts does evolve, there is that)
which means that a 50 year lifetime (seems short for modern “economies” doesn’t it) of “building immunity” which “will protect” is actually just
survivorship bias
(yes yes, no shit, it’s the purest and finalest form of selection, selection which is the driver of evolution)
LOL FUCK
sorry their sarcyntironastical skill is subtler than ours
ohshit
More than 3200 people are suspected to have caught the virus while in hospital between January 1 and October 26 last year, according to leaked Victorian Health Department data. Of these patients, at least 344 – more than 10 per cent – died. Patients in hospitals are particularly vulnerable to COVID infections.
LOL
SCIENCE said:
ohshit
More than 3200 people are suspected to have caught the virus while in hospital between January 1 and October 26 last year, according to leaked Victorian Health Department data. Of these patients, at least 344 – more than 10 per cent – died. Patients in hospitals are particularly vulnerable to COVID infections.
LOL
good news, freeing up hospital capacity
gets some darwinian derr into ya
crosseyes
just let me quote a part of from above
“..Patients in hospitals are particularly vulnerable to COVID infections..”
transition said:
SCIENCE said:ohshit
More than 3200 people are suspected to have caught the virus while in hospital between January 1 and October 26 last year, according to leaked Victorian Health Department data. Of these patients, at least 344 – more than 10 per cent – died. Patients in hospitals are particularly vulnerable to COVID infections.
LOL
good news, freeing up hospital capacity
gets some darwinian derr into ya
crosseyes
just let me quote a part of from above
“..Patients in hospitals are particularly vulnerable to COVID infections..”
and just getting down to end of linked page there
quite awful really, the way the public were turned on hospitals, relaxing basic prophylaxis in the community to the extent it’s casually hostile toward what hospitals do, what medicine does, traditionally has been about
but there ya go, apparently it can be done
probably an advantageous development for telemedicine, technocrats invested and investing in that sort of thing, expanding private markets in that territory, the worldist medicine yeah, that might say it
wear the parochial State and national providers down
climax
climax
anyway since yous’ve accused us of being too negative before
here are wise words from another we honestly consider worth
https://twitter.com/TRyanGregory/status/1641460417665941506
⚠ actually serious
genius
General practitioner Stuart Reece had to close his Highgate Hill practice late last year after the Medical Board of Australia imposed conditions on his registration requiring him to work under supervision of another doctor with experience in addiction medicine. However, Dr Reece said no such doctors were available despite multiple inquiries for suitable practitioners, which the tribunal accepted was “uncontested”. The inability of the public system to cope with the influx of patients left more than 1,000 people who are on opioid substitution medication at risk of a return to illicit substance use, overdose, criminality and death, according to a leaked internal Queensland Health report obtained by the ABC.
but seriously why not just let them die
works for everyone else with preexisting conditions
damn this Economy Must Grow thing is
looking good there
LOL@Evergrande
