I came across a conspiracy theory recently that caught my attention.

This is the idea that there are people richer than the official richest on the rich list.

What do you think?

Made me wonder about where money comes from. From scalping, blackmail, protection/security, fraud, oil, gambling, prostitution, military and political power, drugs, diversion of government funds, straightforward theft, usury, monopoly power, mark-ups, hiding money from inland revenue, from gifts, cashless wealth from bartering, free rental, etc.

People on the rich list are sometimes bit part players financially, owners of small companies where there are much larger companies not on the list. For example, I notice that the man who almost single-handedly financed Trump’s election campaign is not on the rich list – he owns five or more big Las Vegas casinos.

mollwollfumble said:

I came across a conspiracy theory recently that caught my attention.

This is the idea that there are people richer than the official richest on the rich list.

What do you think?

Made me wonder about where money comes from. From scalping, blackmail, protection/security, fraud, oil, gambling, prostitution, military and political power, drugs, diversion of government funds, straightforward theft, usury, monopoly power, mark-ups, hiding money from inland revenue, from gifts, cashless wealth from bartering, free rental, etc.

People on the rich list are sometimes bit part players financially, owners of small companies where there are much larger companies not on the list. For example, I notice that the man who almost single-handedly financed Trump’s election campaign is not on the rich list – he owns five or more big Las Vegas casinos.

… hustling, brokerage, shares, commodities, hedge funds, secret bank accounts, diamonds, high-value artwork, etc.

“the man who almost single-handedly financed Trump’s election campaign”

Who is this man?

The Taxpayer

Michael V said:

“the man who almost single-handedly financed Trump’s election campaign”

Who is this man?

This guy I think:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Adelson

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

“the man who almost single-handedly financed Trump’s election campaign”

Who is this man?

This guy I think:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Adelson

He was not short of a quid but he was short of a lot of other assets.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

“the man who almost single-handedly financed Trump’s election campaign”

Who is this man?

This guy I think:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Adelson

Fair enough. But he appears on the rich-list according to the link you posted. MWF said different…

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

“the man who almost single-handedly financed Trump’s election campaign”

Who is this man?

This guy I think:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Adelson

Fair enough. But he appears on the rich-list according to the link you posted. MWF said different…

Moll doesn’t let facts get in the way of a stupid argument.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Moll doesn’t let facts get in the way of a stupid argument.

Did Moll work for DHS/Robodebt in recent years?

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

This guy I think:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Adelson

Fair enough. But he appears on the rich-list according to the link you posted. MWF said different…

Moll doesn’t let facts get in the way of a stupid argument.

LOLOLOL

Oh so true.

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Moll doesn’t let facts get in the way of a stupid argument.

Did Moll work for DHS/Robodebt in recent years?

He worked for CSIRO.

mollwollfumble said:

I came across a conspiracy theory recently that caught my attention.

This is the idea that there are people richer than the official richest on the rich list.

What do you think?

Made me wonder about where money comes from. From scalping, blackmail, protection/security, fraud, oil, gambling, prostitution, military and political power, drugs, diversion of government funds, straightforward theft, usury, monopoly power, mark-ups, hiding money from inland revenue, from gifts, cashless wealth from bartering, free rental, etc.

People on the rich list are sometimes bit part players financially, owners of small companies where there are much larger companies not on the list. For example, I notice that the man who almost single-handedly financed Trump’s election campaign is not on the rich list – he owns five or more big Las Vegas casinos.

Larger companies night well have diluted ownership due to public share listings.

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Moll doesn’t let facts get in the way of a stupid argument.

Did Moll work for DHS/Robodebt in recent years?

He worked for CSIRO.

Doing Fluid Dynamics.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

Did Moll work for DHS/Robodebt in recent years?

He worked for CSIRO.

Doing Fluid Dynamics.

¿ blowing hot air or taking the piss ?

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

He worked for CSIRO.

Doing Fluid Dynamics.

¿ blowing hot air or taking the piss ?

Take your pick.

mollwollfumble said:

I came across a conspiracy theory recently that caught my attention.

This is the idea that there are people richer than the official richest on the rich list.

What do you think?

Obvious question:

What’s the evidence?

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

I came across a conspiracy theory recently that caught my attention.

This is the idea that there are people richer than the official richest on the rich list.

What do you think?

Obvious question:

What’s the evidence?

Not forthcoming thus far.

The panama papers

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

“the man who almost single-handedly financed Trump’s election campaign”

Who is this man?

This guy I think:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Adelson

Fair enough. But he appears on the rich-list according to the link you posted. MWF said different…

Not that one. He only owns one Las Vegas casino. A bit-part player at best.

There are two companies that share and dominate the Las Vegas casino scene. They swap casinos for a few billion dollars occasionally, and work together on other occasions. But they are officially rivals (possibly to avoid monopoly legislation).

These two companies are Vici Properties Inc and MGM Resorts International.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vici_Properties “owns 48 casinos, hotels, and racetracks and 4 golf courses around the United States and Canada”.

The CEO of Vici Properties Inc is Edward Baltazar Pitoniak. Although he’s not necessarily the person with whom the greatest amount of money resides. Surprisingly, or not, he doesn’t have his own wikipedia entry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM_Resorts_International has 10 casinos on the Las Vegas strip. And is tied in closely with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM_Growth_Properties. The CEO and president of MGM Resorts is William J. Hornbuckle.

As with all gambling, government control of casinos is lax. Money is power, and so long as the government gets its tax cut of profits, it doesn’t took too hard at where the money goes.

Back in the days of Herbert Hoover, until 1964, the FBI was the world centre for blackmail. I have no idea where the world centre is now, but it would be raking in quite a lot of cash.

I suspect that Google is raking in undeclared income from the NSA. A simple calculation shows that Google is home to at least one computer that is bigger than the second biggest computer on the world rankings, but keeps the size of its computers a closely guarded secret.

Elon Musk is listed as the world’s richest man on the rich list. Bah. Tesla is only a very small part of the car market. And SpaceX has been a major money sink up until now, not a money earner. Biggest car manufacturer is SAIC in China isn’t it?

Some people must be raking in huge amounts of money from oil. Particularly in the USA since 2011 and Saudi Arabia since 2003. The Emirates are small players by comparison.

Hedge funds are such vast reservoirs of wealth that they controlled the Australian currency exchange rate for about six months.

Military funding is a big source of income. Particularly for weapons manufacturers and brokers.

Then there are people who operate on the boundary between legal and illegal enterprises. The declared wealth may be only a small part of the real wealth.

And out and out criminals.

wookiemeister said:

The panama papers

In principle I accept that there are people whose de facto wealth is greater than their official wealth. Kleptocrats such as Putin have their fingers in a lot of pies. It just doesn’t prove there’s really anyone richer than the known richest person, Arnault.

dv said:

wookiemeister said:

The panama papers

In principle I accept that there are people whose de facto wealth is greater than their official wealth. Kleptocrats such as Putin have their fingers in a lot of pies. It just doesn’t prove there’s really anyone richer than the known richest person, Arnault.

I think some hereditary leaders are richer than Arnaut but they aren’t counted because the country’s wealth and their wealth are 3ssentially one and the same.

Kothos said:

dv said:

wookiemeister said:

The panama papers

In principle I accept that there are people whose de facto wealth is greater than their official wealth. Kleptocrats such as Putin have their fingers in a lot of pies. It just doesn’t prove there’s really anyone richer than the known richest person, Arnault.

I think some hereditary leaders are richer than Arnaut but they aren’t counted because the country’s wealth and their wealth are 3ssentially one and the same.

Like that pommy Lord who owns most of the land in central London

Kothos said:

dv said:

wookiemeister said:

The panama papers

In principle I accept that there are people whose de facto wealth is greater than their official wealth. Kleptocrats such as Putin have their fingers in a lot of pies. It just doesn’t prove there’s really anyone richer than the known richest person, Arnault.

I think some hereditary leaders are richer than Arnaut but they aren’t counted because the country’s wealth and their wealth are 3ssentially one and the same.

Yeah. Head of states in the middle-east spring to mind.

Tamb said:

Kothos said:

dv said:

In principle I accept that there are people whose de facto wealth is greater than their official wealth. Kleptocrats such as Putin have their fingers in a lot of pies. It just doesn’t prove there’s really anyone richer than the known richest person, Arnault.

I think some hereditary leaders are richer than Arnaut but they aren’t counted because the country’s wealth and their wealth are 3ssentially one and the same.

Like that pommy Lord who owns most of the land in central London

He’s not that rich.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Grosvenor,_7th_Duke_of_Westminster

The House of Saud’s wealth is usually estimated at about 2 trillion dollars but it is somewhat distributed among dozens of people. There’s no individual, not even the King, who can just take 2 trillion dollars shopping. There might not be any individual monarch whose de facto wealth is over a hundred billion.

dv said:

The House of Saud’s wealth is usually estimated at about 2 trillion dollars but it is somewhat distributed among dozens of people. There’s no individual, not even the King, who can just take 2 trillion dollars shopping. There might not be any individual monarch whose de facto wealth is over a hundred billion.

Fair enough. What would you buy anyway?

Kothos said:

dv said:

The House of Saud’s wealth is usually estimated at about 2 trillion dollars but it is somewhat distributed among dozens of people. There’s no individual, not even the King, who can just take 2 trillion dollars shopping. There might not be any individual monarch whose de facto wealth is over a hundred billion.

Fair enough. What would you buy anyway?

A big wallet?

A two trillion dollar Coles order wouldn’t fit in one of those little trucks, anyway.

Kothos said:

dv said:

The House of Saud’s wealth is usually estimated at about 2 trillion dollars but it is somewhat distributed among dozens of people. There’s no individual, not even the King, who can just take 2 trillion dollars shopping. There might not be any individual monarch whose de facto wealth is over a hundred billion.

Fair enough. What would you buy anyway?

Dogecoin.

Kingy said:

Kothos said:

dv said:

The House of Saud’s wealth is usually estimated at about 2 trillion dollars but it is somewhat distributed among dozens of people. There’s no individual, not even the King, who can just take 2 trillion dollars shopping. There might not be any individual monarch whose de facto wealth is over a hundred billion.

Fair enough. What would you buy anyway?

Dogecoin.

Oh, yeah, crypto!

You could turn that $2 trillion into $250, overnight.

captain_spalding said:

Kingy said:

Kothos said:

Fair enough. What would you buy anyway?

Dogecoin.

Oh, yeah, crypto!

You could turn that $2 trillion into $250, overnight.

captain_spalding said:

Kingy said:

Kothos said:

Fair enough. What would you buy anyway?

Dogecoin.

Oh, yeah, crypto!

You could turn that $2 trillion into $250, overnight.

Elon had a really good try, but even he could not do it.

dv said:

wookiemeister said:

The panama papers

In principle I accept that there are people whose de facto wealth is greater than their official wealth. Kleptocrats such as Putin have their fingers in a lot of pies. It just doesn’t prove there’s really anyone richer than the known richest person, Arnault.

Putin is thought to be one of the single richest people in the world, his wealth has been estimated at north of $200 billion which certainty puts him in spitting distance of Arnault.

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

wookiemeister said:

The panama papers

In principle I accept that there are people whose de facto wealth is greater than their official wealth. Kleptocrats such as Putin have their fingers in a lot of pies. It just doesn’t prove there’s really anyone richer than the known richest person, Arnault.

Putin is thought to be one of the single richest people in the world, his wealth has been estimated at north of $200 billion which certainty puts him in spitting distance of Arnault.

Rumour is that he gets a cut of all the oligarchs’ profits. Otherwise they go to jail on trumped up charges. It could be even more than that.

But what good is it going to do him? He can never retire and live a quiet life enjoying his riches.

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

wookiemeister said:

The panama papers

In principle I accept that there are people whose de facto wealth is greater than their official wealth. Kleptocrats such as Putin have their fingers in a lot of pies. It just doesn’t prove there’s really anyone richer than the known richest person, Arnault.

Putin is thought to be one of the single richest people in the world, his wealth has been estimated at north of $200 billion which certainty puts him in spitting distance of Arnault.

Is there for honest Poverty
That hings his head, an’ a’ that;
The coward-slave, we pass him by,
We dare be poor for a’ that!
For a’ that, an’ a’ that.
Our toils obscure an’ a’ that,
The rank is but the guinea’s stamp,
The Man’s the gowd for a’ that.

What though on hamely fare we dine,
Wear hoddin grey, an’ a that;
Gie fools their silks, and knaves their wine;
A Man’s a Man for a’ that:
For a’ that, and a’ that,
Their tinsel show, an’ a’ that;
The honest man, tho’ e’er sae poor,
Is king o’ men for a’ that.

party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

In principle I accept that there are people whose de facto wealth is greater than their official wealth. Kleptocrats such as Putin have their fingers in a lot of pies. It just doesn’t prove there’s really anyone richer than the known richest person, Arnault.

Putin is thought to be one of the single richest people in the world, his wealth has been estimated at north of $200 billion which certainty puts him in spitting distance of Arnault.

Rumour is that he gets a cut of all the oligarchs’ profits. Otherwise they go to jail on trumped up charges. It could be even more than that.

But what good is it going to do him? He can never retire and live a quiet life enjoying his riches.

When you have incredible riches, there is only one thing left and that is power.

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God…

PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

diddly-squat said:

Putin is thought to be one of the single richest people in the world, his wealth has been estimated at north of $200 billion which certainty puts him in spitting distance of Arnault.

Rumour is that he gets a cut of all the oligarchs’ profits. Otherwise they go to jail on trumped up charges. It could be even more than that.

But what good is it going to do him? He can never retire and live a quiet life enjoying his riches.

When you have incredible riches, there is only one thing left and that is power.

There’s two things left, power, and then, the women…

furious said:

PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

Rumour is that he gets a cut of all the oligarchs’ profits. Otherwise they go to jail on trumped up charges. It could be even more than that.

But what good is it going to do him? He can never retire and live a quiet life enjoying his riches.

When you have incredible riches, there is only one thing left and that is power.

There’s two things left, power, and then, the women…

Steady lad.

furious said:

PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

Rumour is that he gets a cut of all the oligarchs’ profits. Otherwise they go to jail on trumped up charges. It could be even more than that.

But what good is it going to do him? He can never retire and live a quiet life enjoying his riches.

When you have incredible riches, there is only one thing left and that is power.

There’s two things left, power, and then, the women…

The women are already there with the riches.

furious said:

PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

Rumour is that he gets a cut of all the oligarchs’ profits. Otherwise they go to jail on trumped up charges. It could be even more than that.

But what good is it going to do him? He can never retire and live a quiet life enjoying his riches.

When you have incredible riches, there is only one thing left and that is power.

There’s two things left, power, and then, the women…

dv said:

furious said:

PermeateFree said:

When you have incredible riches, there is only one thing left and that is power.

There’s two things left, power, and then, the women…

Anyway, There is no towbar on the hearse.

apparentlytodayisinternationalwomensday

SCIENCE said:

apparentlytodayisinternationalwomensday

Yeah I know, Brooke got Zucked for mentioning it

Musk is supposed to have a genius level IQ of 155. Clearly this does not make him a genius in all fields of endeavour.

SCIENCE said:

apparentlytodayisinternationalwomensday

Did you say good day to any of them?

Ian said:

Musk is supposed to have a genius level IQ of 155. Clearly this does not make him a genius in all fields of endeavour

Where’s the evidence for that? I just don’t think that’s likely.based on his successes and failures.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

apparentlytodayisinternationalwomensday

Yeah I know, Brooke got Zucked for mentioning it

What is involved in the process of being Zucked?

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

apparentlytodayisinternationalwomensday

Yeah I know, Brooke got Zucked for mentioning it

What is involved in the process of being Zucked?

First of all you have to do it on facebook.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

apparentlytodayisinternationalwomensday

Yeah I know, Brooke got Zucked for mentioning it

What is involved in the process of being Zucked?

All too often it’s the automated bots Facepalm uses to detect if you’re ‘being offensive’.
And it’s usually either nothing (for example the use of the word ‘tranny’ as shorthand for ‘transmission’ in a vehicle) or some other meme that you posted five years ago and have no memory of.

I got pinged a number of times for this meme, but I disputed it and get out of jail every time.

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Kothos said:

Ian said:

Musk is supposed to have a genius level IQ of 155. Clearly this does not make him a genius in all fields of endeavour

Where’s the evidence for that? I just don’t think that’s likely.based on his successes and failures.

I doubt the correlation between very high IQ and success in business is very strong.

It may not even be positive.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Kothos said:

Ian said:

Musk is supposed to have a genius level IQ of 155. Clearly this does not make him a genius in all fields of endeavour

Where’s the evidence for that? I just don’t think that’s likely.based on his successes and failures.

I doubt the correlation between very high IQ and success in business is very strong.

It may not even be positive.

I can only agree.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

apparentlytodayisinternationalwomensday

Yeah I know, Brooke got Zucked for mentioning it

What is involved in the process of being Zucked?

You get a message telling you you’ve breached Facebook’s policies and then you get punished. Anything from not being able to post for a day but can still make comments, all the way up to not being allowed to do anything at all for a month.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Kothos said:

Ian said:

Musk is supposed to have a genius level IQ of 155. Clearly this does not make him a genius in all fields of endeavour

Where’s the evidence for that? I just don’t think that’s likely.based on his successes and failures.

I doubt the correlation between very high IQ and success in business is very strong.

It may not even be positive.

I don’t just mean success in business. I mean has actually done precious little technical work on Paypal and none at all on SpaceX and Tesla. His attempts at technical work on Twitter have been an embarrassment of failures.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Yeah I know, Brooke got Zucked for mentioning it

What is involved in the process of being Zucked?

First of all you have to do it on facebook.

Specifically she made a post wishing people a happy International Women’s Day, and she got a notification that it had been removed for breaching community standards. She then posted that notification so we could have some laughs and then she got a notification that THAT had been removed for breaching community standards.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What is involved in the process of being Zucked?

First of all you have to do it on facebook.

Specifically she made a post wishing people a happy International Women’s Day, and she got a notification that it had been removed for breaching community standards. She then posted that notification so we could have some laughs and then she got a notification that THAT had been removed for breaching community standards.

That seems a little strange.

But I suppose they were just trying to be inclusive.

I mean it was World Engineers’ Day the other day, and I bet no-one even gave it a mention.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

First of all you have to do it on facebook.

Specifically she made a post wishing people a happy International Women’s Day, and she got a notification that it had been removed for breaching community standards. She then posted that notification so we could have some laughs and then she got a notification that THAT had been removed for breaching community standards.

That seems a little strange.

But I suppose they were just trying to be inclusive.

I mean it was World Engineers’ Day the other day, and I bet no-one even gave it a mention.

Do they time it with Osama’s birthday?

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Specifically she made a post wishing people a happy International Women’s Day, and she got a notification that it had been removed for breaching community standards. She then posted that notification so we could have some laughs and then she got a notification that THAT had been removed for breaching community standards.

That seems a little strange.

But I suppose they were just trying to be inclusive.

I mean it was World Engineers’ Day the other day, and I bet no-one even gave it a mention.

Do they time it with Osama’s birthday?

I suppose you think that’s funny!

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Specifically she made a post wishing people a happy International Women’s Day, and she got a notification that it had been removed for breaching community standards. She then posted that notification so we could have some laughs and then she got a notification that THAT had been removed for breaching community standards.

That seems a little strange.

But I suppose they were just trying to be inclusive.

I mean it was World Engineers’ Day the other day, and I bet no-one even gave it a mention.

Do they time it with Osama’s birthday?

I suppose you think that’s funny!

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

That seems a little strange.

But I suppose they were just trying to be inclusive.

I mean it was World Engineers’ Day the other day, and I bet no-one even gave it a mention.

Do they time it with Osama’s birthday?

I suppose you think that’s funny!

Yeah, I’m a card

dv said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What is involved in the process of being Zucked?

First of all you have to do it on facebook.

Specifically she made a post wishing people a happy International Women’s Day, and she got a notification that it had been removed for breaching community standards. She then posted that notification so we could have some laughs and then she got a notification that THAT had been removed for breaching community standards.

See I wouldn’t last five minutes there.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

First of all you have to do it on facebook.

Specifically she made a post wishing people a happy International Women’s Day, and she got a notification that it had been removed for breaching community standards. She then posted that notification so we could have some laughs and then she got a notification that THAT had been removed for breaching community standards.

That seems a little strange.

But I suppose they were just trying to be inclusive.

I mean it was World Engineers’ Day the other day, and I bet no-one even gave it a mention.

You did.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Specifically she made a post wishing people a happy International Women’s Day, and she got a notification that it had been removed for breaching community standards. She then posted that notification so we could have some laughs and then she got a notification that THAT had been removed for breaching community standards.

That seems a little strange.

But I suppose they were just trying to be inclusive.

I mean it was World Engineers’ Day the other day, and I bet no-one even gave it a mention.

You did.

Did I?

Oh well, just being woke I suppose.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Do they time it with Osama’s birthday?

I suppose you think that’s funny!

Yeah, I’m a card

Specifically the Joker?

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

That seems a little strange.

But I suppose they were just trying to be inclusive.

I mean it was World Engineers’ Day the other day, and I bet no-one even gave it a mention.

You did.

Did I?

Oh well, just being woke I suppose.

The Sleeper Awakes is an HG Wells novel about a man who sleeps a long time and wakes to find himself the richest man on earth.

And that’s how we tie it back to the OP.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

You did.

Did I?

Oh well, just being woke I suppose.

The Sleeper Awakes is an HG Wells novel about a man who sleeps a long time and wakes to find himself the richest man on earth.

And that’s how we tie it back to the OP.

OK, that raised a smile.

Sleepers, awaken! The night has gone and taken
Your darkest fears and left you here
And the sun it shines so clear
And the sun it shines so clear
Oh wake for the world looks wonderful

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Did I?

Oh well, just being woke I suppose.

The Sleeper Awakes is an HG Wells novel about a man who sleeps a long time and wakes to find himself the richest man on earth.

And that’s how we tie it back to the OP.

OK, that raised a smile.

Sleepers, awaken! The night has gone and taken
Your darkest fears and left you here
And the sun it shines so clear
And the sun it shines so clear
Oh wake for the world looks wonderful

Awake! for Morning in the Bowl of Night Has flung the Stone that puts the Stars to Flight: And Lo! the Hunter of the East has caught The Sultan’s Turret in …

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

apparentlytodayisinternationalwomensday

Yeah I know, Brooke got Zucked for mentioning it

What is involved in the process of being Zucked?

+1

Kothos said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Kothos said:

Where’s the evidence for that? I just don’t think that’s likely.based on his successes and failures.

I doubt the correlation between very high IQ and success in business is very strong.

It may not even be positive.

I don’t just mean success in business. I mean has actually done precious little technical work on Paypal and none at all on SpaceX and Tesla. His attempts at technical work on Twitter have been an embarrassment of failures.

Sacking the security folks and then ringing them the next day to get into the building features on another list but is worth mentioning.

ms spock said:

Kothos said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I doubt the correlation between very high IQ and success in business is very strong.

It may not even be positive.

I don’t just mean success in business. I mean has actually done precious little technical work on Paypal and none at all on SpaceX and Tesla. His attempts at technical work on Twitter have been an embarrassment of failures.

Sacking the security folks and then ringing them the next day to get into the building features on another list but is worth mentioning.

Indeed, not only is he not a genius, he’s an idiot.

https://www.google.com/search?q=chaim+topol+youtube&sxsrf=AJOqlzWQX1OkFwfynexa2fO90FjKdMKTuw%3A1678353097454&ei=yaIJZIaxG8nl4-EPxdq1wAQ&ved=0ahUKEwjGubnBwM79AhXJ8jgGHUVtDUgQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=chaim+topol+youtube&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIFCCEQoAE6CggAEEcQ1gQQsAM6BwgAELADEEM6DQgAEOQCENYEELADGAE6DwguENQCEMgDELADEEMYAjoMCC4QyAMQsAMQQxgCOgUIABCABDoLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6BAgAEEM6CggAEIAEEBQQhwI6BQguEIAEOgoILhCABBAUEIcCOgYIABAWEB46CAgAEBYQHhAPOgUIABCGAzoICAAQCBAeEA06BwghEKABEApKBAhBGABQrxBYxTBg1zNoAXABeACAAYsCiAGDDZIBBTAuNC40mAEAoAEByAERwAEB2gEGCAEQARgJ2gEGCAIQARgI&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:dab5cafa,vid:yE0YCJ3r-Bo

Peak Warming Man said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=chaim+topol+youtube&sxsrf=AJOqlzWQX1OkFwfynexa2fO90FjKdMKTuw%3A1678353097454&ei=yaIJZIaxG8nl4-EPxdq1wAQ&ved=0ahUKEwjGubnBwM79AhXJ8jgGHUVtDUgQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=chaim+topol+youtube&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIFCCEQoAE6CggAEEcQ1gQQsAM6BwgAELADEEM6DQgAEOQCENYEELADGAE6DwguENQCEMgDELADEEMYAjoMCC4QyAMQsAMQQxgCOgUIABCABDoLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6BAgAEEM6CggAEIAEEBQQhwI6BQguEIAEOgoILhCABBAUEIcCOgYIABAWEB46CAgAEBYQHhAPOgUIABCGAzoICAAQCBAeEA06BwghEKABEApKBAhBGABQrxBYxTBg1zNoAXABeACAAYsCiAGDDZIBBTAuNC40mAEAoAEByAERwAEB2gEGCAEQARgJ2gEGCAIQARgI&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:dab5cafa,vid:yE0YCJ3r-Bo

Get real. I’m not typin’ all that in.

Peak Warming Man said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=chaim+topol+youtube&sxsrf=AJOqlzWQX1OkFwfynexa2fO90FjKdMKTuw%3A1678353097454&ei=yaIJZIaxG8nl4-EPxdq1wAQ&ved=0ahUKEwjGubnBwM79AhXJ8jgGHUVtDUgQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=chaim+topol+youtube&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIFCCEQoAE6CggAEEcQ1gQQsAM6BwgAELADEEM6DQgAEOQCENYEELADGAE6DwguENQCEMgDELADEEMYAjoMCC4QyAMQsAMQQxgCOgUIABCABDoLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6BAgAEEM6CggAEIAEEBQQhwI6BQguEIAEOgoILhCABBAUEIcCOgYIABAWEB46CAgAEBYQHhAPOgUIABCGAzoICAAQCBAeEA06BwghEKABEApKBAhBGABQrxBYxTBg1zNoAXABeACAAYsCiAGDDZIBBTAuNC40mAEAoAEByAERwAEB2gEGCAEQARgJ2gEGCAIQARgI&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:dab5cafa,vid:yE0YCJ3r-Bo

I ain’t typing all that in

Fuck, beaten by woodie

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

If I were a rich man

Get real. I’m not typin’ all that in.

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=chaim+topol+youtube&sxsrf=AJOqlzWQX1OkFwfynexa2fO90FjKdMKTuw%3A1678353097454&ei=yaIJZIaxG8nl4-EPxdq1wAQ&ved=0ahUKEwjGubnBwM79AhXJ8jgGHUVtDUgQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=chaim+topol+youtube&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIFCCEQoAE6CggAEEcQ1gQQsAM6BwgAELADEEM6DQgAEOQCENYEELADGAE6DwguENQCEMgDELADEEMYAjoMCC4QyAMQsAMQQxgCOgUIABCABDoLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6BAgAEEM6CggAEIAEEBQQhwI6BQguEIAEOgoILhCABBAUEIcCOgYIABAWEB46CAgAEBYQHhAPOgUIABCGAzoICAAQCBAeEA06BwghEKABEApKBAhBGABQrxBYxTBg1zNoAXABeACAAYsCiAGDDZIBBTAuNC40mAEAoAEByAERwAEB2gEGCAEQARgJ2gEGCAIQARgI&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:dab5cafa,vid:yE0YCJ3r-Bo

Get real. I’m not typin’ all that in.

It’s the Yaba dibby dibba dibby dibby dibba dibba dum song.

Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=chaim+topol+youtube&sxsrf=AJOqlzWQX1OkFwfynexa2fO90FjKdMKTuw%3A1678353097454&ei=yaIJZIaxG8nl4-EPxdq1wAQ&ved=0ahUKEwjGubnBwM79AhXJ8jgGHUVtDUgQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=chaim+topol+youtube&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIFCCEQoAE6CggAEEcQ1gQQsAM6BwgAELADEEM6DQgAEOQCENYEELADGAE6DwguENQCEMgDELADEEMYAjoMCC4QyAMQsAMQQxgCOgUIABCABDoLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6BAgAEEM6CggAEIAEEBQQhwI6BQguEIAEOgoILhCABBAUEIcCOgYIABAWEB46CAgAEBYQHhAPOgUIABCGAzoICAAQCBAeEA06BwghEKABEApKBAhBGABQrxBYxTBg1zNoAXABeACAAYsCiAGDDZIBBTAuNC40mAEAoAEByAERwAEB2gEGCAEQARgJ2gEGCAIQARgI&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:dab5cafa,vid:yE0YCJ3r-Bo

Get real. I’m not typin’ all that in.

It’s the Yaba dibby dibba dibby dibby dibba dibba dum song.

He’s dead Jim.