That’s Freedom¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-31/john-farnham-in-hospital-respiratory-infection/102172998
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-31/john-farnham-in-hospital-respiratory-infection/102172998
These causes aren’t bad because they’re bad causes, they’re bad because they’re bad for The Economy Must Grow¡ That’s the central and critical priority¡ Addressing the causes is someone else’s problem, we only need to care about dealing with the inflation¡
The data shows prices for hotel accommodation and travel actually fell, which contributed to a drop in the headline inflation figure. However, prices for essential items remain elevated — and some continue to increase. For example, for the year to February 2023, bread and cereal prices rose 12.5 per cent, dairy products rose 14.3 per cent and the cost of electricity surged 17.2 per cent.
The sources of Australia’s elevated inflation highlight just how sticky it could be. The ongoing — albeit easing — supply chain constraints created by the COVID pandemic and associated lockdowns. The war in Ukraine, which has seen increased prices for coal, gas and grains. Natural disasters linked to climate change and a lack of corporate competition, that have also put upwards pressure on prices for goods and services.
An additional 160,000 Australians are now able to access subsidised COVID-19 antiviral treatments after the federal government expanded eligibility criteria under the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS). From today, people in their 60s with one risk factor for severe COVID-19 can get a prescription for Pfizer’s oral antiviral treatment, Paxlovid, which was previously only available to people in this age group with two risk factors.
Announcing the change, federal health minister Mark Butler said the increased availability of the antiviral drug would help take pressure off Australian hospitals. “We know how effective Paxlovid and Molnupiravir — two oral antivirals — are in preventing severe disease and hospitalisation and death, we’ve seen that through the last few waves over the course of 2022,” Mr Butler said on Thursday.
Yes, we do know: that molnupiravir shit is ineffective.
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/molnupiravir-to-be-used-only-as-a-last-resort-task
That analysis, which was published in October, looked at data from 25,000 patients, most of whom were older than 50. The randomised trial also included a group aged 18 and above with co-morbidities that increased their risk of severe illness. Its researchers concluded that molnupiravir did not reduce hospitalisations or deaths among higher risk, vaccinated adults with COVID-19, even thought it did seem to prompt a faster recovery time, as well as reduced viral load. As a result, the Taskforce said the trial results mean there is now ‘high certainty evidence’ that the treatment does not have an impact on hospitalisation or death in ‘multiply-vaccinated adults with mild COVID-19 and one or more risk factors for disease progression’.
It also said the trial underlines its existing stance towards nirmaltrelvir plus ritonavir (sold as Paxlovid) and remdesivir as the preferred antiviral treatments for mild COVID.
But hey, it’s the $1000 a pop treatment that will take pressure off, isn’t it, The Economy Must Grow and all that, can’t have growth without spend, better spend it on expensive drugs instead of saving it up* on prevention. Wait did someone say prevention?
Mr Butler said antiviral prescriptions had increased by about 40 per cent, and cases in aged care had risen by about 65 per cent, though the latter remained substantially lower than the peak seen during summer. “We’ve seen a very slow, small uptick in hospitalisations over the last several weeks as well, all of which goes to reinforce the message that this is not over. “There will be future waves of COVID across the course of this year and it is important to continue to reinforce those standard messages about remaining COVID-safe.”
Guess not, we should expect, wait for … no, we should hope for … future waves¡ Seasonal waves¡ More than 1 waves across this year because it’s seasonal¡ It’s inevitable and necessary¡
Tell you what isn’t fucking mentioned in the article¿ Masks¡ Something that would actually protect the vulnerable, wait…
Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly said it was difficult to predict whether the COVID “ripple” being seen at the moment would turn into another large wave. But he said the priority for health authorities remained protecting Australia’s most vulnerable groups, including older people and residents of aged care.
Dickhead.
*: because masks are seen but nirmatrelvir + ritonavir are not seen, that must be it
SCIENCE said:
The Economy Must Grow ¡
These causes aren’t bad because they’re bad causes, they’re bad because they’re bad for The Economy Must Grow¡ That’s the central and critical priority¡ Addressing the causes is someone else’s problem, we only need to care about dealing with the inflation¡
The data shows prices for hotel accommodation and travel actually fell, which contributed to a drop in the headline inflation figure. However, prices for essential items remain elevated — and some continue to increase. For example, for the year to February 2023, bread and cereal prices rose 12.5 per cent, dairy products rose 14.3 per cent and the cost of electricity surged 17.2 per cent.
The sources of Australia’s elevated inflation highlight just how sticky it could be. The ongoing — albeit easing — supply chain constraints created by the COVID pandemic and associated lockdowns. The war in Ukraine, which has seen increased prices for coal, gas and grains. Natural disasters linked to climate change and a lack of corporate competition, that have also put upwards pressure on prices for goods and services.
Hey, give yous a hint on how to deal with problems like this.
He’ll use it to help decide whether to extend Lowe’s term and as a blueprint to shake up the critical economic institution. “We need to give the RBA the best possible basis to make those decisions,” Jim Chalmers told the ABC’s RN Breakfast this week. “This should be beyond politics … It should be about the best Reserve Bank that we can possibly have for our country, no matter who’s in government. “We want to build the respect and reputation of the Reserve Bank.” Notably, he didn’t say “rebuild” — just “build”. There’s arguably never been more pressure or attention on the RBA to make the right call on interest rate policy, and yet it’s also recognised that it’s operating at a suboptimal level.
You’re absolutely correct that it’s bigger than the bank, it’s bigger than who’s in government. You’d be absolutely correct that supply problems aren’t really the remit of the RBA.
Clobbering demand with interest rates is a short term fix, and we’re not even sure about the “fix” bit.
Maybe actually do something that acts as a long term solution, something that might address the ongoing damage to supply¿
Mr SCIENCE sir, why don’t you lobby the AMA and the government rather than us?
roughbarked said:
Mr SCIENCE sir, why don’t you lobby the AMA and the government rather than us?
Sorry, we don’t have starting finances of AUD1000000000 to play with.
I has me a read, not directly related to covid, but blame master science, and anyway he’s perhaps not completely mad to have it in the covid thread as things go
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-01/rba-interest-rate-hike-pause-sticky-inflation/102169734
sticky’s a word gets used a lot these day, guess it means can’t shift it easily
crosseyes painful derr sensation behind them as attempt a thought, something happening hang on, ooh dear God that hurts, so early in the morning
think about the insanity of zero interest rates, or near zero, the madness of it just had for a number of years, that’s like a fucken boom/bust disaster, creator of, poison
I sees these few words arranged so, quoted below, from the page with address mentioned above
“…a lack of corporate competition…”
certainly wasn’t that pumping the (seemingly cheap) money into the system when interest rates were so low
whatever, i’ll go for a walk shortly, at least the birds couldn’t be so stupid, or perhaps corrupt is a more appropriate word
transition said:
I has me a read, not directly related to covid, but blame master science, and anyway he’s perhaps not completely mad to have it in the covid thread as things go
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-01/rba-interest-rate-hike-pause-sticky-inflation/102169734
sticky’s a word gets used a lot these day, guess it means can’t shift it easily
crosseyes painful derr sensation behind them as attempt a thought, something happening hang on, ooh dear God that hurts, so early in the morning
think about the insanity of zero interest rates, or near zero, the madness of it just had for a number of years, that’s like a fucken boom/bust disaster, creator of, poison
I sees these few words arranged so, quoted below, from the page with address mentioned above
“…a lack of corporate competition…”
certainly wasn’t that pumping the (seemingly cheap) money into the system when interest rates were so low
whatever, i’ll go for a walk shortly, at least the birds couldn’t be so stupid, or perhaps corrupt is a more appropriate word
Sorry, we had intended to include the link but forgot.
Yes, we recall when there were allegations that the money was arranged to drain directly into big corporations.
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
I has me a read, not directly related to covid, but blame master science, and anyway he’s perhaps not completely mad to have it in the covid thread as things go
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-01/rba-interest-rate-hike-pause-sticky-inflation/102169734
sticky’s a word gets used a lot these day, guess it means can’t shift it easily
crosseyes painful derr sensation behind them as attempt a thought, something happening hang on, ooh dear God that hurts, so early in the morning
think about the insanity of zero interest rates, or near zero, the madness of it just had for a number of years, that’s like a fucken boom/bust disaster, creator of, poison
I sees these few words arranged so, quoted below, from the page with address mentioned above
“…a lack of corporate competition…”
certainly wasn’t that pumping the (seemingly cheap) money into the system when interest rates were so low
whatever, i’ll go for a walk shortly, at least the birds couldn’t be so stupid, or perhaps corrupt is a more appropriate word
Sorry, we had intended to include the link but forgot.
Yes, we recall when there were allegations that the money was arranged to drain directly into big corporations.
Since when was that not always the case?
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-01/rba-interest-rate-hike-pause-sticky-inflation/102169734
Sorry, we had intended to include the link but forgot.
Yes, we recall when there were allegations that the money was arranged to drain directly into big corporations.
Since when was that not always the case?

Yes, but






who hasn’t stubbed their toe and then gone to the accident and emergency department and sat in the waiting room crying for 20 minutes and then seen myocardial infarcts and subarachnoid haemorrhages and aortic dissections wheeled in and then at 30 minutes gone up to the triage nurse in a huff to complain that they’ve been waiting for 6 hours and this healthcare service is fucked and if the department can’t deal with it then they will take their business elsewhere like it’s some kind of competition¿
SCIENCE said:
Yes, but
who hasn’t stubbed their toe and then gone to the accident and emergency department and sat in the waiting room crying for 20 minutes and then seen myocardial infarcts and subarachnoid haemorrhages and aortic dissections wheeled in and then at 30 minutes gone up to the triage nurse in a huff to complain that they’ve been waiting for 6 hours and this healthcare service is fucked and if the department can’t deal with it then they will take their business elsewhere like it’s some kind of competition¿
This is from https://twitter.com/DecorumManager/status/1641514662121332761 but yes we consider this (conscious andor subconscious) rewriting of history to be concerning and quite dangerous.
Another concerning branch of posts.





But yeah, not so sure about “twice a year”, if the duration of illness is 1 week and there’s a constant 1/50 prevalence of infection and there are 50 weeks in a year then it’s all fine, that makes only once a year, no problem.
Should we laugh, or should we die¿



SCIENCE said:
Another concerning branch of posts.
But yeah, not so sure about “twice a year”, if the duration of illness is 1 week and there’s a constant 1/50 prevalence of infection and there are 50 weeks in a year then it’s all fine, that makes only once a year, no problem.
the pandemic response has in fact been a disaster, horrendous disaster
when you’re party to something that bad, so many people involved, most people don’t want to know, couldn’t hold it in their heads
transition said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
ohshit
More than 3200 people are suspected to have caught the virus while in hospital between January 1 and October 26 last year, according to leaked Victorian Health Department data. Of these patients, at least 344 – more than 10 per cent – died. Patients in hospitals are particularly vulnerable to COVID infections.
LOL
good news, freeing up hospital capacity
gets some darwinian derr into ya
crosseyes
just let me quote a part of from above
“..Patients in hospitals are particularly vulnerable to COVID infections..”
and just getting down to end of linked page there
quite awful really, the way the public were turned on hospitals, relaxing basic prophylaxis in the community to the extent it’s casually hostile toward what hospitals do, what medicine does, traditionally has been about
but there ya go, apparently it can be done
probably an advantageous development for telemedicine, technocrats invested and investing in that sort of thing, expanding private markets in that territory, the worldist medicine yeah, that might say it
wear the parochial State and national providers down


https://twitter.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1641926164301086723


Better late than never.

SCIENCE said:
Better late than never.
guess biggest trouble with those things is some sucker that has to clean them out, and covid dust, moved the covid onto the filter, need be in a spacesuit with full biohazard disposal procedures
> An additional 160,000 Australians are now able to access subsidised COVID-19 antiviral treatments after the federal government expanded eligibility criteria under the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS). From today, people in their 60s with one risk factor for severe COVID-19 can get a prescription for Pfizer’s oral antiviral treatment, Paxlovid, which was previously only available to people in this age group with two risk factors.
I’d be interested to know what a risk factor is. Eg I have asthma. But very mild. What degree of asthma severity counts as a risk factor?
mollwollfumble said:
> An additional 160,000 Australians are now able to access subsidised COVID-19 antiviral treatments after the federal government expanded eligibility criteria under the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS). From today, people in their 60s with one risk factor for severe COVID-19 can get a prescription for Pfizer’s oral antiviral treatment, Paxlovid, which was previously only available to people in this age group with two risk factors.
I’d be interested to know what a risk factor is. Eg I have asthma. But very mild. What degree of asthma severity counts as a risk factor?
Enough for some doctor to foolishly write it on the record and agree to prescribe some.
Finally clarified, old people dying of lifestyle disease (caused by lots of life) is actually by implication longer life expectancy.

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1641799627128143873
Good stuff in thread.

Joke day¡

Oh wait, it wasn’t in that time zone…
wait.
SCIENCE said:
Joke day¡
Oh wait, it wasn’t in that time zone…
wait.
Sorry, link for those who like to know.
Fuck Lockdowns ¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-02/tonadoes-death-toll-rises-in-united-states/102176792
So¿ Who cares¿ It’s just a mild severe COVID.

LOL
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/31/health/salmonella-outbreak-flour/index.html
A dozen illnesses – including three hospitalizations – have been reported in connection with the outbreak, spanning 11 states. However, the CDC says that the scale of the outbreak is probably much larger than the number of reported cases suggests. To stay safe, the CDC recommends following recipe or package instructions to fully cook cookies, cakes and other foods made with raw flour, and using warm water and soap to wash hands, utensils, countertops and anything else that comes into contact with raw four. People should also use heat-treated flour for homemade playdough.
Ah well we suppose 3 hospitalised people is enough to take precautionary / preventative measures.
Better snort some SARACAIDS-CoV though¡
SCIENCE said:
LOL
This one is pretty brilliant: it’s so high yous can’t even see it¡

Sorry maybe we’re high¿
Whingers.

Obviously they just did things the wrong way around.
Don’t want orphans¿ Kill the children first.
SCIENCE said:
Whingers.
Obviously they just did things the wrong way around.
Don’t want orphans¿ Kill the children first.
probably thirty times that or more have extra tired parents, and I won’t venture much into the subject of the unborn, gestational hazards, have a wine anyway take your mind off things, couldn’t be much worse surely
don’t mind me, I don’t buy the tidy binary that distracts from the full range of covid-induced injury, not sure minds evolved to be entirely reliable that way, in that territory, not sure liberal culture inclines much progress either, something like secret and stealthy nativism probably got a leg up in that space
Get COVID-19, get played¡

We’ven’t touched a NHS for at least 30 years but hey, apparently this is how they run.

Just unplug them, all good¡
science, you might want look up neuro-glia-vascular unit
transition said:
science, you might want look up neuro-glia-vascular unit
Our ganglia are already fucking exploding, what a weekend of read.
Good news, just wear oxygen all the time and your brain function might be closer to old young normal¡
In a new Canadian study, researchers found that not only did participants who previously had COVID-19 perform worse on two specific cognitive tasks, but brain imaging showed that during these tasks, there was a lack of oxygen reaching the sections of the brain that would normally be fully engaged.
Fuck birds and their influenzas¡

Wait, maybe that was the problem…
SCIENCE said:
Good news, just wear oxygen all the time and your brain function might be closer to old young normal¡
In a new Canadian study, researchers found that not only did participants who previously had COVID-19 perform worse on two specific cognitive tasks, but brain imaging showed that during these tasks, there was a lack of oxygen reaching the sections of the brain that would normally be fully engaged.
hello pandemic response failure, what a monster
https://www.statnews.com/2023/04/02/jha-covid-misinformation/
The coordinator of the Biden administration’s Covid-19 response team called on doctors to take a leadership role with patients to battle medical misinformation and disinformation, linking the continuing death toll in part to such erroneous messaging. Speaking to an audience of physicians at a conference near Boston Friday, Ashish Jha reminded them they are skilled at dealing with uncertainty, … now, doctors need to step up.
“What we have seen is the widespread propagation of misinformation and disinformation. And the reason it has taken root is because there was an information vacuum,” Jha said to the group, … “If you are up to date on your vaccines and you get treated with Paxlovid, if you get an infection, you just don’t die of this virus. Almost no one dies of this virus,” he said.
Jha also warned that a revisionist history of the early pandemic is taking hold.
Jha said the ongoing crisis has exposed the need for leadership. “We’re talking about the important role of political leaders, people who marshal resources and bring the country together. We have not always been blessed with such leaders, but we’ve had some great ones,” he said. “We’ve also needed a different type of leader. Physicians are particularly well-poised to play this role.”
Personal Responsibility
three people have been killed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-03/papua-new-guinea-earthquake-east-sepik-three-dead/102181764
SCIENCE said:
Irony Is Overkilled
https://www.statnews.com/2023/04/02/jha-covid-misinformation/
The coordinator of the Biden administration’s Covid-19 response team called on doctors to take a leadership role with patients to battle medical misinformation and disinformation, linking the continuing death toll in part to such erroneous messaging. Speaking to an audience of physicians at a conference near Boston Friday, Ashish Jha reminded them they are skilled at dealing with uncertainty, … now, doctors need to step up.
“What we have seen is the widespread propagation of misinformation and disinformation. And the reason it has taken root is because there was an information vacuum,” Jha said to the group, … “If you are up to date on your vaccines and you get treated with Paxlovid, if you get an infection, you just don’t die of this virus. Almost no one dies of this virus,” he said.
Jha also warned that a revisionist history of the early pandemic is taking hold.
Jha said the ongoing crisis has exposed the need for leadership. “We’re talking about the important role of political leaders, people who marshal resources and bring the country together. We have not always been blessed with such leaders, but we’ve had some great ones,” he said. “We’ve also needed a different type of leader. Physicians are particularly well-poised to play this role.”
Personal Responsibility
I’s reading that, perhaps i’m a discerning maniac, having a moment of maniacal discernment, but I noticed while I reads reference to misinformation etc, which I guess if you point to it elsewhere a person might sense what they’re reading couldn’t be misinformation, gives it more authority, anyway dumb sees reference to millions of long covid cases, when for all I know it could be nearer twenty million, which as i’ve said before that sort of thing isn’t technically incorrect, but I might quibble and suggest it’s a possible inexactitude
I could look harder and perhaps find other possible inexactitudinally arranged notions put into words too, but as it went I got tired of myself five words into the previous paragraph, so imagine the tedium now
japan implements program of dereclusivication
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/03/japan-says-15-million-people-living-as-recluses-after-covid
Our bad maybe we should have approached it this way.


SCIENCE said:
Our bad maybe we should have approached it this way.
I hope Ms Cooper was being sarcastic.
SCIENCE said:
Our bad maybe we should have approached it this way.
Why does it have to be gender specific?
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:Our bad maybe we should have approached it this way.
Why does it have to be gender specific?
If she wasn’t being sarcastic maybe she thinks gender stereotypes are an accurate description of how people actually behave.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Our bad maybe we should have approached it this way.
Why does it have to be gender specific?
Why do asymmetric probability distributions in the Real World exist¿
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:Our bad maybe we should have approached it this way.
Why does it have to be gender specific?
If she wasn’t being sarcastic maybe she thinks gender stereotypes are an accurate description of how people actually behave.
Hah. I was going to reply to Roughy “To piss of the Rev”… :-)
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:Our bad maybe we should have approached it this way.
Why does it have to be gender specific?
If she wasn’t being sarcastic maybe she thinks gender stereotypes are an accurate description of how people actually behave.
Maybes abound.
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:Why does it have to be gender specific?
If she wasn’t being sarcastic maybe she thinks gender stereotypes are an accurate description of how people actually behave.
Hah. I was going to reply to Roughy “To piss of the Rev”… :-)
:) Are we all doing that today?
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Our bad maybe we should have approached it this way.
Why does it have to be gender specific?
Why do asymmetric probability distributions in the Real World exist¿
Why do people have to interact with others based on asymmetric probability distributions, rather than making an assessment of the most positive way of dealing with the individual they are interacting with.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:roughbarked said:
Why does it have to be gender specific?
Why do asymmetric probability distributions in the Real World exist¿
Why do people have to interact with others based on asymmetric probability distributions, rather than making an assessment of the most positive way of dealing with the individual they are interacting with.
Now who is our resident psychologist?
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:Why does it have to be gender specific?
If she wasn’t being sarcastic maybe she thinks gender stereotypes are an accurate description of how people actually behave.
Hah. I was going to reply to Roughy “To piss of the Rev”… :-)
Fair point :)
But seriously, was she really suggesting that’s how women should point out mistakes to men?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:If she wasn’t being sarcastic maybe she thinks gender stereotypes are an accurate description of how people actually behave.
Hah. I was going to reply to Roughy “To piss of the Rev”… :-)
Fair point :)
But seriously, was she really suggesting that’s how women should point out mistakes to men?
That is how she put it. As you say, it may have been sarcastic but I believe it can also apply to women, in the context of accuracy of how people do enjoin the behavioural contest.
Michael V said:
This is alarming:
Given that their ilk have already taken over pandemic management of the entire world, we make no further specific comment at this time.
Nice benchmark slash threshold.

LOL “made the right call at least once” LOL
Oh fuck, 3 months¿ Running out of time to fight CHINA after their Great Leap Into Mass Infection¡

Anecdote.

Can’t you just keep the hospitals clean, and shoot* 10% of people turning up for admission on arrival¿

*: lethally, not with a vaccine, like https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/2015538/
We swear we read practically the same article a year ago but here we all are.
https://www.ft.com/content/8af4e821-1e14-4c6a-a98c-1b670851b38c
Up to £30bn could be wiped from UK corporate pension scheme liabilities owing to one of the biggest falls in life expectancy in a decade, according to industry experts. The latest modelling by actuaries saw life expectancy assumptions at retirement age fall 1.9 per cent, or six months, compared with the previous year’s model.
“While deaths in 2020 and 2021 were clearly abnormally high due to the significant numbers of deaths seen during the first two Covid-19 waves, deaths in 2022 were persistently higher than pre-pandemic expectations through much of the year,” said Jonathan Hughes, chair of the CMI. “The CMI’s view is that these persistently higher than expected deaths may continue, as the underlying drivers appear likely to remain soon.”
Consistency.

Remember the oversell¿ Well damn but we missed this a few days back.
https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/our-vaccines/astrazeneca

From Monday 20 March 2023 Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) is no longer available.
WFTYS
So the correct conclusion is: doctors should be striking as much as possible¡
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18849101/

A paradoxical pattern has been suggested in the literature on doctors’ strikes: when health workers go on strike, mortality stays level or decreases. We performed a review of the literature during the past forty years to assess this paradox. We used PubMed, EconLit and Jstor to locate all peer-reviewed English-language articles presenting data analysis on mortality associated with doctors’ strikes. We identified 156 articles, seven of which met our search criteria. The articles analyzed five strikes around the world, all between 1976 and 2003. The strikes lasted between nine days and seventeen weeks. All reported that mortality either stayed the same or decreased during, and in some cases, after the strike. None found that mortality increased during the weeks of the strikes compared to other time periods. The paradoxical finding that physician strikes are associated with reduced mortality may be explained by several factors. Most importantly, elective surgeries are curtailed during strikes. Further, hospitals often re-assign scarce staff and emergency care was available during all of the strikes. Finally, none of the strikes may have lasted long enough to assess the effects of long-term reduced access to a physician. Nonetheless, the literature suggests that reductions in mortality may result from these strikes.
Oh fuck sorry oops.


SCIENCE said:
Consistency.
not sure the mass infection and mass injury has been entirely natural, the gain of dysfunction
SCIENCE said:
Can’t you just keep the hospitals clean, and shoot* 10% of people turning up for admission on arrival¿
*: lethally, not with a vaccine, like https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/2015538/


LOL
Excellent.
Hasta el mes de febrero, la Administración Técnica Forestal y de Fauna Silvestre (ATFFS) del Serfor y el Servicio Nacional de Áreas Naturales Protegidas por el Estado (Sernanp) han registrado estas cifras respecto a la mortalidad de aves silvestres:
“En el caso del pelícano peruano nos preocupa porque en el último censo, que se realizó en octubre del año pasado, fue de 114 mil individuos. Es decir, el 41 % de la población ha muerto. Los piqueros y guanayes también mueren en grandes cantidades diariamente”, agregó la especialista.

SCIENCE said:
We swear we read practically the same article a year ago but here we all are.
https://www.ft.com/content/8af4e821-1e14-4c6a-a98c-1b670851b38c
Shorter life expectancy gives UK pensions an unexpected windfall
Up to £30bn could be wiped from UK corporate pension scheme liabilities owing to one of the biggest falls in life expectancy in a decade, according to industry experts. The latest modelling by actuaries saw life expectancy assumptions at retirement age fall 1.9 per cent, or six months, compared with the previous year’s model.
“While deaths in 2020 and 2021 were clearly abnormally high due to the significant numbers of deaths seen during the first two Covid-19 waves, deaths in 2022 were persistently higher than pre-pandemic expectations through much of the year,” said Jonathan Hughes, chair of the CMI. “The CMI’s view is that these persistently higher than expected deaths may continue, as the underlying drivers appear likely to remain soon.”
oh goody is that a happy accident in the space of darwinian social medicine
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Can’t you just keep the hospitals clean, and shoot* 10% of people turning up for admission on arrival¿
*: lethally, not with a vaccine, like https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/2015538/
LOL
I think the idea is to eliminate any examples of covid being kept out of anywhere
it’s a bit like when Darwinian notions overtook ideas of God and creation, people appreciated evolution was true, then proceeded to accept it secretly applied of social and political philosophy, the idea permeated culture broadly, it was made deadly true, truer, deadlier, a desire for overwhelming evidence of the truth of it grew, conscience was abandoned, and everyone lived blissfully ever after
Fuck CHINA¡
An avalanche killed seven tourists in India’s Himalayan state of Sikkim near a mountain pass to the Chinese region of Tibet, with rescue workers calling off the search for bodies as night fell. At least 20 people had been rescued alive after several vehicles carrying tourists to the strategically located Nathu La pass between Sikkim and Tibet were hit by the falling snow, the army reported. Nathu La serves as a route for the Kailash Mansarovar pilgrimage to Mount Kailash in China, considered one of the holiest pilgrimages in Hinduism.


Doesn’t seem legit’, or people who wear masks could just go around pretending they were positive and then everyone else should be shit scared and livid.

We mean there’s always comments that people who take precautions shouldn’t be angry at other people exercising their Freedoms® so what with this¿
SCIENCE said:
Doesn’t seem legit’, or people who wear masks could just go around pretending they were positive and then everyone else should be shit scared and livid.
We mean there’s always comments that people who take precautions shouldn’t be angry at other people exercising their Freedoms® so what with this¿
Don’t many places allow you out if positive and non symptomatic if you wear a mask
LOL@C…A
Uh sorry, we uh mean

CANADA
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
Doesn’t seem legit’, or people who wear masks could just go around pretending they were positive and then everyone else should be shit scared and livid.
We mean there’s always comments that people who take precautions shouldn’t be angry at other people exercising their Freedoms® so what with this¿
Don’t many places allow you out if positive and non symptomatic if you wear a mask
We haven’t really followed the rules heaps closely, we thought there weren’t any restrictions any more and people could do WTFever they want.
(Let’s be honest we were out and about heaps even in pseudolockdown but we had plenty good exemption, our point is though that even back then, nobody stopped us or checked us at all.)
Excellent news¡

Good.
Nice.
https://journals.lww.com/neurotodayonline/Fulltext/2023/01050/Nearly_One_Fifth_of_Hospitalized_Children_and.3.aspx
https://neurosciencenews.com/covid-19-dementia-22938/
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
Doesn’t seem legit’, or people who wear masks could just go around pretending they were positive and then everyone else should be shit scared and livid.
We mean there’s always comments that people who take precautions shouldn’t be angry at other people exercising their Freedoms® so what with this¿
Don’t many places allow you out if positive and non symptomatic if you wear a mask
We haven’t really followed the rules heaps closely, we thought there weren’t any restrictions any more and people could do WTFever they want.
(Let’s be honest we were out and about heaps even in pseudolockdown but we had plenty good exemption, our point is though that even back then, nobody stopped us or checked us at all.)
All right found something clear from WA and not beating around the bush like VIC, here are 3 samples to compare.
Last updated: 18 October 2022
From today, mandatory COVID-19 isolation has been removed. All Western Australians are strongly encouraged to stay home if unwell.
https://www.health.gov.au/health-alerts/covid-19/testing-positive?gclsrc=ds&gclsrc=ds
Last updated: 30 March 2023
It is no longer a legal requirement for people diagnosed with COVID-19 to isolate.
https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/prepare-covid-isolation
Nothing to see here. They don’t use words like “require” or “must”, just “should”. C’m‘on¡




SCIENCE said:
Excellent news¡
Nearly One-Fifth of Hospitalized Children and Adolescents with SARS-CoV-2 or MIS-C Have Persistent Neurologic Complications
Good.
COVID-19 Infection Accelerates the Progression of Dementia
Nice.
https://journals.lww.com/neurotodayonline/Fulltext/2023/01050/Nearly_One_Fifth_of_Hospitalized_Children_and.3.aspx
https://neurosciencenews.com/covid-19-dementia-22938/
I reads that last, I wonders about the work of the devil, the evil that is, the arrogant worldists and technology maniacs, that might be happy to oversee a world where people casually visit terrible disease on each other, and help with forgetting it could be some other way
I further wonders what words they might replace the subjective experience of the home in the head with, displace it, so that the narcissists and sociopaths might never be distracted by conscience, not anybodies, while sending all into a darwinian hell
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Excellent news¡
Nearly One-Fifth of Hospitalized Children and Adolescents with SARS-CoV-2 or MIS-C Have Persistent Neurologic Complications
Good.
COVID-19 Infection Accelerates the Progression of Dementia
Nice.
https://journals.lww.com/neurotodayonline/Fulltext/2023/01050/Nearly_One_Fifth_of_Hospitalized_Children_and.3.aspx
https://neurosciencenews.com/covid-19-dementia-22938/
I reads that last, I wonders about the work of the devil, the evil that is, the arrogant worldists and technology maniacs, that might be happy to oversee a world where people casually visit terrible disease on each other, and help with forgetting it could be some other way
I further wonders what words they might replace the subjective experience of the home in the head with, displace it, so that the narcissists and sociopaths might never be distracted by conscience, not anybodies, while sending all into a darwinian hell


It’s only 32 pages long so yous can all enjoy some bedtime happy reading tonight, we’ll probably turn in early.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WixGXZ7wwXc93Pn5stEa7bhCDus_QEf6/view
SCIENCE said:
It’s only 32 pages long so yous can all enjoy some bedtime happy reading tonight, we’ll probably turn in early.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WixGXZ7wwXc93Pn5stEa7bhCDus_QEf6/view
Enough to make Marge and Tina cry
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Excellent news¡
Nearly One-Fifth of Hospitalized Children and Adolescents with SARS-CoV-2 or MIS-C Have Persistent Neurologic Complications
Good.
COVID-19 Infection Accelerates the Progression of Dementia
Nice.
https://journals.lww.com/neurotodayonline/Fulltext/2023/01050/Nearly_One_Fifth_of_Hospitalized_Children_and.3.aspx
https://neurosciencenews.com/covid-19-dementia-22938/
I reads that last, I wonders about the work of the devil, the evil that is, the arrogant worldists and technology maniacs, that might be happy to oversee a world where people casually visit terrible disease on each other, and help with forgetting it could be some other way
I further wonders what words they might replace the subjective experience of the home in the head with, displace it, so that the narcissists and sociopaths might never be distracted by conscience, not anybodies, while sending all into a darwinian hell
fairly adaptive to enjoy recovering and emerging from illness, it’d be malingering or hypochondria otherwise, probably a rare thing the latter
the usual thing is to put discomfort in the past, for it to fade
More good shit.
https://twitter.com/KarenCutter4/status/1643763286377385984








Our main criticism here would be on the last one there, the markings they used for each year; we would have suggested something that forms a more natural progression so the progression is more naturally obvious.
SCIENCE said:
More good shit.
https://twitter.com/KarenCutter4/status/1643763286377385984
Our main criticism here would be on the last one there, the markings they used for each year; we would have suggested something that forms a more natural progression so the progression is more naturally obvious.
those lockdowns were hell on everyone
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Can’t you just keep the hospitals clean, and shoot* 10% of people turning up for admission on arrival¿
*: lethally, not with a vaccine, like https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/2015538/
LOL
I think the idea is to eliminate any examples of covid being kept out of anywhere
it’s a bit like when Darwinian notions overtook ideas of God and creation, people appreciated evolution was true, then proceeded to accept it secretly applied of social and political philosophy, the idea permeated culture broadly, it was made deadly true, truer, deadlier, a desire for overwhelming evidence of the truth of it grew, conscience was abandoned, and everyone lived blissfully ever after
Oh dear¿
https://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/2023/02/20/hospital-liability-covid-infection/

Sorry we misspelled dead¡
The Irony Here Is Surely That
https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/04/06/covid-skyrockets-to-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-australia/
They Must Be Using This
To Distract From Their Own Brilliant Performance

Certainly Satire
Cystic Fibrosis Australia chief executive Jo Armstrong said without a subsidy the treatment would cost families about $22,000 a month.
*: wait, we can final solve this problem easy, just Let It Rip and the COVID-19 will fix it
Does every fucking media outlet publish one of these fucking articles every fucking year¿
SCIENCE said:
Does every fucking media outlet publish one of these fucking articles every fucking year¿Why Australia could be through the pandemic in 2024
thinks i’ve read that previous, a ways back now
Luckily it’s become mild¡

Who cares¿
SCIENCE said:
Luckily it’s become mild¡
Who cares¿
Check this sneaky disinformation trick though.

Fk CHINA and their Lying Flat™ business¡

Wait.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/we-need-an-operation-warp-speed-for-long-covid/
SCIENCE said:
Fk CHINA and their Lying Flat™ business¡
Wait.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/we-need-an-operation-warp-speed-for-long-covid/
just started reading that SciAm page
i’d say the situation is much worse than those numbers indicate, i’d say the reality is unspeakably obscene
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Fk CHINA and their Lying Flat™ business¡
Wait.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/we-need-an-operation-warp-speed-for-long-covid/
just started reading that SciAm page
i’d say the situation is much worse than those numbers indicate, i’d say the reality is unspeakably obscene
It’s all good we can save money like this¡



Fk Police State CHINA again, this wouldn’t have happened if they weren’t batman¡






SCIENCE said:
Fk Police State CHINA again, this wouldn’t have happened if they weren’t batman¡
Holy crap.
:(
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:Fk Police State CHINA again, this wouldn’t have happened if they weren’t batman¡
Holy crap.
:(
https://www.pnj.com/story/news/crime/2023/04/06/rebekah-jones-son-arrested-in-florida-what-we-know-about-digital-threat-allegations/70088634007/
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:Fk Police State CHINA again, this wouldn’t have happened if they weren’t batman¡
Holy crap.
:(
https://www.pnj.com/story/news/crime/2023/04/06/rebekah-jones-son-arrested-in-florida-what-we-know-about-digital-threat-allegations/70088634007/
Ah. That puts a very different light on the story.
I haven’t looked at world covid for quite a while.
From Worldometers.
Looks good … but … notice that the number of deaths per case has gone up enormously since end of Jan 2023.


Australia’s last official report of new cases was Mar 19, 2023.
At that time the daily new cases on a seven day average were 3,400 per day.
The government has been completely silent since then.
Australia no new deaths reported Mar 8 to April 2.
28 covid new deaths reported April 3.
In New Zealand, 293 new cases per million people reported on April 3, which made New Zealand by far the worst country in the world for Covid, by new cases. Followed by Austria 209 and South Korea 163.

Covid death statistics are unreliable as well. Here are some countries.
Deaths in every country is well under 10.

The USA is reporting death weekly, it reported on 1st April that 1,746 people had died of Covid in the previous week.
They are reporting cases and deaths weekly. Today’s report:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-07/covid-19-case-numbers-from-around-the-states-and-territories/102183362
Michael V said:
They are reporting cases and deaths weekly. Today’s report:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-07/covid-19-case-numbers-from-around-the-states-and-territories/102183362
And of course –
https://covidlive.com.au/states-and-territories

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/04/05/humans-covid-wuhan-raccoon-dogs/
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
Holy crap.
:(
https://www.pnj.com/story/news/crime/2023/04/06/rebekah-jones-son-arrested-in-florida-what-we-know-about-digital-threat-allegations/70088634007/
Ah. That puts a very different light on the story.
Ah but why are they threatening to shoot up Florida where they aren’t¿
Good News, With This Mild Head Cold Just Like The ‘Flu’ You Only Need To Endure One Big And Four Medium Seasonal Outbreaks Each Year¡

CHICAGO, April 6 (Reuters) – Researchers at the University of Miami reported on Thursday what they believe are the first two confirmed cases in which the SARS-CoV-2 virus crossed a mother’s placenta and caused brain damage in the infants they were carrying.
Oh, and masks, it was masks that caused the brain damage.
SCIENCE said:
Wrong¡
This Was Most Certainly The Lockdowns And School Closures
CHICAGO, April 6 (Reuters) – Researchers at the University of Miami reported on Thursday what they believe are the first two confirmed cases in which the SARS-CoV-2 virus crossed a mother’s placenta and caused brain damage in the infants they were carrying.
Oh, and masks, it was masks that caused the brain damage.
Why was she carrying these kids around anyway?
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
Wrong¡
This Was Most Certainly The Lockdowns And School Closures
CHICAGO, April 6 (Reuters) – Researchers at the University of Miami reported on Thursday what they believe are the first two confirmed cases in which the SARS-CoV-2 virus crossed a mother’s placenta and caused brain damage in the infants they were carrying.
Oh, and masks, it was masks that caused the brain damage.
Why was she carrying these kids around anyway?
We can tell you how, they probably got f… uh… fertilised, that’s what we were going to say.
Surprise¡ After crossing over from climate denial to COVID-19 denial, they’re back at it and more¡

Totally Could Not Have Predicted This
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.pnj.com/story/news/crime/2023/04/06/rebekah-jones-son-arrested-in-florida-what-we-know-about-digital-threat-allegations/70088634007/
Ah. That puts a very different light on the story.
Ah but why are they threatening to shoot up Florida where they aren’t¿
Excellent¡ We Need More Stable And Happily Developed Juvenile Hominids


LOL fk is this guy stupid, why would you risk getting acne and people not being able to see your smile when you could get the taxpayer to pay for your lung transplant and the chance to meet new healthcare workers every day¿
“You can do more stuff than usual — like exercise —but a lot of appointments to attend to every day.”

You even get compensation¡
Unable to work and with rising medical costs, Hak took legal action against his former employer for not providing him with a safe system of work and was awarded compensation.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-07/young-tradesman-warns-of-silica-related-illnesses/102196234
Remember, masks do nothing, and SARACAIDS-CoV is good for you¡
⚠ no shit we blame the uninformation, misinformation, and disinformation, not the protagonist there
LOL this disinformation piece, note we do not know the “SCIENCE” they are crapping on about there.

It really is quite simple: the Liberal Party is unelectable, not because of any unknowable mystery or demographic shift or quirk of the electorate, but because it fucking sucks and has fucking sucked uninterrupted for three decades now. In 2023, its remaining core beliefs deserve to be fringe. The decline is about what they stand for. It is not the party’s messaging that needs tinkering – its soul needs an exorcism.
Except it has been elected several times, in that 3e+1 years, wait.
SCIENCE said:
Well, all right, this allegedly influenza-afflicted aquatic mammal was meant to be in this thread.
SCIENCE said:
LOL this disinformation piece, note we do not know the “SCIENCE” they are crapping on about there.
yeah’s a bit ‘interesting’, sort of handball of unlimited plague to the everywhere-everyone-anyone-nobody, the oblivion of prevalence, normal that way
These authors have it in for Sweden but it’s obviously because they’re just being jealous and racist.

Came Back From The Dead, But Can These SARACAIDS-CoV Lovers¿
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/07/nyregion/nyc-covid-deaths.html
N.Y.C. Life Expectancy Dropped 4.6 Years in 2020, Officials Say
The coronavirus pandemic in 2020 caused the death rate in New York City to climb about 50 percent over the previous year, according to new data, a phenomenon not seen in nearly 200 years. Additionally, life expectancy dropped citywide from 82.6 years in 2019 to 78 years in 2020, a drop of 4.6 years.


LOL

First They* Killed The Retired People
Then They* Promised Not To Raise The Retirement Age
Now They* Can Start Working Younger ¡
*: we(0,1,1)
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:
furious said:
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
Have we discussed that Ken Wyatt, former Indigenous Australians Minister in the Morrison govt, has resigned from the Liberal Party because of their stance on the Voice?
yeah we picked over it like a hungry person on a discarded chicken carcase.
So, over all the things he could have quit over, he chose this, after he is out of office. How noble of him ..
you are either one short of an ellipsis or one too many for a full point. Plus one extra of a space for either.
So what we’re saying is that ideology, dogma, and party politics are obsolete and in a pre-2020 enlightened world, informed reasoned decisions would have been a better way to run things¿


remember this shit
Partisan Shitfuckery Look What Beautiful Rewards It Gets You
Check out this very diplomatic and measured lashing out as described by Your (State-)Affiliated Broadcasting Corporation (talk to us about the Marketing capture if you really believe otherwise)¡
Oh wait, it’s supposedly from
AP
so that makes it all right then¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-09/china-lashes-out-at-who-defend-covid-virus-search/102202900
Chinese health officials have defended their search for the source of the COVID-19 virus and lashed out at the World Health Organization after its leader said Beijing should have shared genetic information earlier.
The director of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention’s, Shen Hongbing, said the WHO comments were “offensive and disrespectful.” He accused the WHO of “attempting to smear China” and said it should avoid helping others “politicise COVID-19”. The global health body’s director-general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said in March that newly disclosed genetic material gathered in Wuhan in central China, where the first cases were detected in late 2019, “should have been shared three years ago”. “As a responsible country and as scientists, we have always actively shared research results with scientists from around the world,” Mr Shen said.
Nice lashing out there, more like a tickle with a feather but hey, you call you¡
Now how about this part¿
The genetic material cited by the WHO’s Dr Tedros was uploaded recently to a global database but collected in 2020 at a Wuhan market where wildlife was sold. The samples show DNA from raccoon dogs mingled with the virus, scientists say. They say that adds evidence to the hypothesis COVID-19 came from animals, not a lab, but doesn’t resolve the question of where it started. They say the virus also might have spread to raccoon dogs from humans. The information was removed by Chinese officials from the database after foreign scientists asked the CDC about it, but it had been copied by a French expert and shared with researchers outside China.
So what we heard was that there are proceedings for academic misconduct when “foreign scientists” scooped data to jump the CHINA publication about the smoking gun, and used scooped data to fabricate a conclusion opposite to the CHINA conclusion, and then splashed it all over the media so the CHINA publication wouldn’t get air time.
What conclusion slash publication¿
Oh wait, this¿¡
Humans Can Leak Viruses From Laboratories, And Now CHINA Researchers Dismiss Natural Raccoon Dog Origin Of Virus ¡
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/04/05/humans-covid-wuhan-raccoon-dogs/
So uh they’re saying it wasn’t natural after all ¡¿¿¡
Only Communists Like CHINA Have Dystopian State Fact Checkers
Democracies Like Ours Get The Truth, The Whole Truth, And Nothing But The Truth


Man with ASIAN name talks shit about Israeli research and masks, probably has some ulterior motive.

https://twitter.com/ToshiAkima/status/1645064903445848066
⚠ this post may contain sarcyntironastical elements
SCIENCE said:
Fun¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-10/mick-o-dowd-s-life-without-limbs/102182894
You make your own fun. Unless you follow the crowd.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Fun¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-10/mick-o-dowd-s-life-without-limbs/102182894
You make your own fun. Unless you follow the crowd.
Let’s be fair we’ve been nonconformists from youth and here we are, P2 masked in the face of 99% smiles and sprays. Nevertheless a fine trip out and wasn’t much that filtering detracted from at all.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Fun¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-10/mick-o-dowd-s-life-without-limbs/102182894
You make your own fun. Unless you follow the crowd.
Let’s be fair we’ve been nonconformists from youth and here we are, P2 masked in the face of 99% smiles and sprays. Nevertheless a fine trip out and wasn’t much that filtering detracted from at all.
:)
Oh that’s just lovely.
AMA president warns of ‘more illness, more loss of life’ from Covid as cases rise
Gatherings over Easter long weekend expected to cause further increase in infections, with Victoria already 60% up in past fortnight
Spiny Norman said:
Oh that’s just lovely.
AMA president warns of ‘more illness, more loss of life’ from Covid as cases rise
Gatherings over Easter long weekend expected to cause further increase in infections, with Victoria already 60% up in past fortnight
LOL

SCIENCE said:
Only Communists Like CHINA Have Dystopian State Fact Checkers
Democracies Like Ours Get The Truth, The Whole Truth, And Nothing But The Truth
Yous all thought we were just joking and yous were right, but it was a serious joke.



Any data on not having a fourth shot after a year. 63yo
SCIENCE said:
Spiny Norman said:
Oh that’s just lovely.
AMA president warns of ‘more illness, more loss of life’ from Covid as cases rise
Gatherings over Easter long weekend expected to cause further increase in infections, with Victoria already 60% up in past fortnightLOL
so the covid fire can keep ragin’
a borderless world
no travelers’t be inconveniencin’
trasumanar, or hell
go sell ya soul to’t devil, Human
19 shillings said:
Any data on not having a fourth shot after a year. 63yo
At this stage we would recommend getting updated 6 monthly but feel free to assign whatever value you like to effectively anonymous advice from an internet forum.
We also suggest that a good mask (at least P2 or equivalent) will be far more protective than any available vaccination.
And that both are far better options than coughing up your lungs and $1000 for a course of antiretroviral therapy.
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Spiny Norman said:
Oh that’s just lovely.
AMA president warns of ‘more illness, more loss of life’ from Covid as cases rise
Gatherings over Easter long weekend expected to cause further increase in infections, with Victoria already 60% up in past fortnightLOL
so the covid fire can keep ragin’
a borderless world
no travelers’t be inconveniencin’
trasumanar, or hell
go sell ya soul to’t devil, Human
Well that should make this fun
if it turns out to be legit’, dropped a few months ago
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9483875/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9196149/
but we haven’t read all of them yet.


SCIENCE said:
19 shillings said:
Any data on not having a fourth shot after a year. 63yo
At this stage we would recommend getting updated 6 monthly but feel free to assign whatever value you like to effectively anonymous advice from an internet forum.
We also suggest that a good mask (at least P2 or equivalent) will be far more protective than any available vaccination.
And that both are far better options than coughing up your lungs and $1000 for a course of antiretroviral therapy.
__
Thanks
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
so the covid fire can keep ragin’
a borderless world
no travelers’t be inconveniencin’
trasumanar, or hell
go sell ya soul to’t devil, HumanWell that should make this fun
if it turns out to be legit’, dropped a few months ago
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9483875/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9196149/but we haven’t read all of them yet.
I would have difficulty copying that line drawing. As far as I know I’ve not had COVID-19.
poikilotherm said:
monkey skipper said:
sarahs mum said:
Woman Injects Crushed Black Widow To Get High, Has A Bad Time
https://www.iflscience.com/woman-injects-crushed-black-widow-to-get-high-has-a-bad-time-68372
some people should not have their genes passed onto the next generation …. seriously
Eugenics lost favour around the 1940s for some reason.
Don’t worry deliberate fuelling of a pandemic doesn’t count, The Economy Must Grow is adequate justification¡
SCIENCE said:
The Economy Must Grow
Wait, here’s proof that the reserve bank are idiots and we’ve been fucking played for fools¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-11/argentina-100-per-cent-inflation-crisis/102179458
Argentina’s central bank keeps printing more pesos in the face of stubborn deficit spending, constant devaluation and global price shocks caused by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. “And as any economist will tell you, that will lead in only one direction: the purgatory of high inflation,” says Dr Benjamin Gedan, director of the Wilson Center’s Argentina Project and Latin American Program.
Yet this nationwide confusion about what anything should cost has done nothing to dampen the Argentine enthusiasm for spending. “You’ll go to restaurants in Buenos Aires that are full, not because people are thriving financially but because they say, ‘quema la plata’, meaning ‘burn the money’,” Gedan says. And so many Argentines spend like it’s the end times, buying everything from towels to televisions in instalments. Rudy backs the strategy. “I have a 2018 Toyota HiLux, which I bought a year-and-a-half ago for 4.5 million pesos. Six months later, it was worth 7.5 million pesos. Now it’s worth almost 12 million pesos,” he says. “The truth is that the only way to save money is to buy goods.”
God damn, they had us all believing that you raise interest rates to curb spending and that will bring inflation down, but what the fuck is this¿ Just fkn LET InflaTion RIP® past 100% and you’re good, people carry on spending, and The Economic Must Growth turnover is unstoppable¡
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
The Economy Must Grow
Wait, here’s proof that the reserve bank are idiots and we’ve been fucking played for fools¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-11/argentina-100-per-cent-inflation-crisis/102179458
Argentina’s central bank keeps printing more pesos in the face of stubborn deficit spending, constant devaluation and global price shocks caused by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. “And as any economist will tell you, that will lead in only one direction: the purgatory of high inflation,” says Dr Benjamin Gedan, director of the Wilson Center’s Argentina Project and Latin American Program.
Yet this nationwide confusion about what anything should cost has done nothing to dampen the Argentine enthusiasm for spending. “You’ll go to restaurants in Buenos Aires that are full, not because people are thriving financially but because they say, ‘quema la plata’, meaning ‘burn the money’,” Gedan says. And so many Argentines spend like it’s the end times, buying everything from towels to televisions in instalments. Rudy backs the strategy. “I have a 2018 Toyota HiLux, which I bought a year-and-a-half ago for 4.5 million pesos. Six months later, it was worth 7.5 million pesos. Now it’s worth almost 12 million pesos,” he says. “The truth is that the only way to save money is to buy goods.”
God damn, they had us all believing that you raise interest rates to curb spending and that will bring inflation down, but what the fuck is this¿ Just fkn LET InflaTion RIP® past 100% and you’re good, people carry on spending, and The Economic Must Growth turnover is unstoppable¡
might help you know, looking at a horizon of conditional debt forgiveness or refinancing similar, transition to a digital currency, burn the local currency, everyone there might become suitably marginally Argentinian, everyone worldists transhumanists or whatever eventually, borg-like perhaps everywhere
reading below
https://www.oecd.org//economy/growth/Argentina-country-note-going-for-growth-2021.pdf
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
dumb reads that, wondered if it had some secret intention for a moment, crossed my mind how it might serve to make humans out to be irrational, naturally so, but anyway it gives some unspoken continuity to the reality taking lots of things can result in poisoning, included prescription medicine, prescribed prescription medicine, even food you know, peanuts can be poisonous
all drug users might be considered pharmacists, and a lot of them secretly are, so secret a lot of them don’t know they are secretly pharmacists, some are even doctors, secret doctors, medicating, delivering the medicine
Well, they do say that fentanyl kills more USAoles than COVID-19 so who knows¿
Supposedly.
The USA should send all the fentanyl they make, to Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis
Wait, fuck they said it¡
All 40 of the insurgents were shot dead when unconscious, and up to 130 hostages died during the siege, including 9 foreigners, due to the toxic substance pumped into the theater. The identity of the gas was not disclosed at the time, although it was believed by some to have been a fentanyl derivative, such as carfentanil. A study published in 2012 concluded that it had been a mixture of carfentanil and remifentanyl. The same study pointed out that in a 2011 case at the European Court of Human Rights, the Russian government stated that the aerosol used was a mixture of a fentanyl derivative and a chemical compound with a narcotic action.
Damn so all any bastard in there could have done is wear an at least P2 or equivalent mask and they could have watched everyone else around them dying while laughing their heads off¿
Imagine being protected by personal protective equipment, fuck¡
Bring It On¡
Hey, this looks like a pandemic that’s over¡
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/04/10/operation-warp-speed-successor-project-nextgen/
White House launching $5 billion program to speed coronavirus vaccines
‘Project Next Gen’ would succeed ‘Operation Warp Speed’ with a mission to develop next-generation vaccines and therapies
Who are their marketing consultants, this is fucking genius, especially when the antivaccination arseholes are already all about how they’re supposedly gene therapies and genetic engineering and genetic modification and …
SCIENCE said:
Hey, this looks like a pandemic that’s over¡
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/04/10/operation-warp-speed-successor-project-nextgen/
White House launching $5 billion program to speed coronavirus vaccines
‘Project Next Gen’ would succeed ‘Operation Warp Speed’ with a mission to develop next-generation vaccines and therapies
Who are their marketing consultants, this is fucking genius, especially when the antivaccination arseholes are already all about how they’re supposedly gene therapies and genetic engineering and genetic modification and …
See, despite all of yous thinking we’re the whacked ones here,

oh

wait.
Conspiracy theories galore¡
Who the fuck is this communist and what have they done with the Real Leaders of Democracy¿¡
Prime Minister Chris Hipkins warns COVID-19 will spread more around New Zealand and will further impact the health system if the Government scraps the remaining restrictions in place.
“One of the challenges here is if you have to isolate, then obviously you can’t go to work – that has a labour market implication. But on the other hand, if you go to work with COVID-19 and you give it to a whole lot of people, that can also have a labour market implication.”
SCIENCE said:
Who the fuck is this communist and what have they done with the Real Leaders of Democracy¿¡
Prime Minister Chris Hipkins warns COVID-19 will spread more around New Zealand and will further impact the health system if the Government scraps the remaining restrictions in place.
“One of the challenges here is if you have to isolate, then obviously you can’t go to work – that has a labour market implication. But on the other hand, if you go to work with COVID-19 and you give it to a whole lot of people, that can also have a labour market implication.”
Oh fuck CHINA and Communists¡
The Government has decided to keep the seven-day isolation rule for COVID-19 cases but has asked for more advice on whether people can return to work if they test negative before their time is up. Cabinet made that call with the strained health system in mind – something the Government’s hoping to fix by opening the immigration floodgates and offering automatic residency to basically every single health professional. On Tuesday Prime Minister Chris Hipkins and Health Minister Dr Ayesha Verrall decided we need to keep protecting each other – the seven-day mandatory isolation period is here to stay.
Ah but don’t worry they’ll fuck you up later.
“We consider it on a rolling basis but certainly my expectation is we will reach a point where there isn’t a mandatory isolation period,” Hipkins said.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Hey, this looks like a pandemic that’s over¡
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/04/10/operation-warp-speed-successor-project-nextgen/
White House launching $5 billion program to speed coronavirus vaccines
‘Project Next Gen’ would succeed ‘Operation Warp Speed’ with a mission to develop next-generation vaccines and therapies
Who are their marketing consultants, this is fucking genius, especially when the antivaccination arseholes are already all about how they’re supposedly gene therapies and genetic engineering and genetic modification and …
See, despite all of yous thinking we’re the whacked ones here,
oh
wait.
Conspiracy theories galore¡
Look at this so-called expert who knows nothing responding to oh wait what was that¿

Whingers.

SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Hey, this looks like a pandemic that’s over¡
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/04/10/operation-warp-speed-successor-project-nextgen/
White House launching $5 billion program to speed coronavirus vaccines
‘Project Next Gen’ would succeed ‘Operation Warp Speed’ with a mission to develop next-generation vaccines and therapies
Who are their marketing consultants, this is fucking genius, especially when the antivaccination arseholes are already all about how they’re supposedly gene therapies and genetic engineering and genetic modification and …
See, despite all of yous thinking we’re the whacked ones here,
oh
wait.
Conspiracy theories galore¡
Look at this so-called expert who knows nothing responding to oh wait what was that¿
…some but not total protection…
fucks a lot of people up with virus-induced injuries, of indeterminate recovery duration, indefinite might be a better word, and many may never recover
but whatever makes a happy covidmonger, don’t let me get in the way
David Crosby died in his sleep after contracting COVID-19 for the second time, bandmate Graham Nash has revealed.
The iconic musician died aged 81 on January 19 2023 with his wife Jan Dance saying he passed after a ‘long illness’ – with Nash, 81, detailing that Crosby’s shock death had come just hours after he rehearsed for a show in Los Angeles.
He told the Kyle Meredith With… podcast: ‘He was rehearsing for a show to do in Los Angeles with a full band. After three days of rehearsals, he felt a little sick.
‘And he’d already had COVID and he had COVID again. And so he went home and decided that he would take a nap, and he never woke up. But he died in his bed and that is fantastic.
Opening up about the grieving process, Nash continued: ‘I mean, the fact that he made it to 81 was astonishing. But was a shock. It was kind of like an earthquake, you know?
You get the initial shock and then you figure out that you survived. But these aftershocks kept coming up, and they’re diminishing in size as I go along.’
The member of the bands the Byrds and Crosby, Stills & Nash had notably battled with ill-health for many years, being diagnosed with hepatitis C in the early 1990s and undergoing a liver transplant in 1994.
In a statement announcing his death in January, Crosby’s wife Jan said: ‘It is with great sadness after a long illness, that our beloved David (Croz) Crosby has passed away.
more..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11957777/David-Crosbys-cause-death-revealed-Music-icon-81-died-sleep-COVID.html
Fuck Lockdowns, Online Learning, Public Health, And Equaller Societies¡

Ah, COVID-19, is there any planet it can’t heal¿
Here’s a fucking surprise.
Right but

they forgot to explain a couple of things, like
¡
D’n‘o’ about yous but we’re blaming

the dogs and the computer games.
SCIENCE said:
D’n‘o’ about yous but we’re blaming
the dogs and the computer games.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lymphocytopenia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrombocytopenia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-dimer
may as well be educational
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
D’n‘o’ about yous but we’re blaming
the dogs and the computer games.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lymphocytopenia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrombocytopenia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-dimermay as well be educational
Fair call.
All right stepping onto the next calculus.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.04.490614v1

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2221652120

Oh that’s right, “inhibition of expression” isn’t “escape”, we got it¡
Fuck this.
Good news¡ If we combine 7% of doctors having the skills to diagnose longcovid19, with 7% of covid19ers having longcovid19, only one half of one percent of people will have diagnosed longcovid19¡



Probably because of lockdowns.
Don’t trust these alarmists, they’re just playing tricks on you and faking it, look they even used different x-axis scales and

uh

excuse us, let us get back to you on that.
Something vaccine preventable eh¿
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-13/tetanus-death-nsw-three-cases-sydney-woman/102217056
If the BOM funk mcs are right, this low should be in Queensland by Saturday evening.





Masked Japan: 90% cover face 1 month after rules lifted
Many feel pressure from peers and workplaces to continue masking
TAMAKI KYOZUKA, Nikkei staff writer
April 13, 2023 10:36 JST
TOKYO — The vast majority of Japanese workers choose to wear masks as part of their daily routine, a private-sector survey shows, despite the government easing rules on masking one month ago.
Of roughly 750 working adults, 39.6% said they wear a mask “unconditionally,” according to a poll conducted April 5-7 by Laibo, a Tokyo-based career development agency. Another 53.4% said they wear masks depending on the situation.
This adds up to 93% of respondents who still mask up. Japan relaxed its guidance for wearing masks on March 13, letting individuals make their own decision in most circumstances.
For those sticking to masks, a 42.6% plurality said they do so out of habit. Peer pressure also appears to be at work: 37.9% of respondents said they wear masks because many other people do so.
Another critical factor involves companies that independently adopt mask-wearing rules for employees. In Laibo’s survey, 35% said they wear masks because their workplaces recommended it.
At Aeon, the largest retailer in Japan, all 500,000 domestic workers at physical stores and corporate headquarters continue to wear masks during work hours. Employees must report the presence or absence of COVID symptoms to departmental supervisors before arriving at work.
FamilyMart and other convenience store chains recommend that employees wear face coverings.
Ongoing mask rules are conspicuous in the manufacturing sector as well. Okuma, a maker of machine tools, tells workers to maintain that practice.
“If a COVID outbreak occurs within the company, we would have to halt production lines,” an Okuma representative said.
At Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, employees groupwide working in Japan are to wear masks if they cannot distance themselves at least 1 meter from each other.
Only 31.1% of Japanese businesses intend to lift companywide mask rules, according to a survey of chief executives Nikkei conducted last month, while 49% said they would ease directives.
“Companies find it easy to maintain masking rules since the application requires zero investment costs, yet the companies will likely be praised for taking safety measures concerning customers and other stakeholders,” said Kazuya Nakayachi, a professor of social psychology at Doshisha University in Kyoto.
“For individuals, if they’re going to wear masks in the workplace, and if people around them aren’t going to take off their masks, then those individuals will decide to continue wearing masks even outside the workplace,” Nakayachi said.
A number of companies decided to make masks optional prior to Japan easing the national guidance, and those employers will stick to that policy. In February, GMO Internet Group removed partitions and made mask-wearing voluntary. It has no plans to change the protocol.
“The purpose is to better stimulate communication,” a GMO representative said.
Sanko Marketing Foods, which operates the izakaya pub chain Kinnokura, delegates the decision on wearing masks to each staff member.
In March, masks sold at a rate of 5.89 units per thousand people, according to Nikkei POS, which collects sales performance data across Japan. The reading was the second lowest for the period starting in 2020.
The volume of masks sold is just 12% higher than in March 2019, indicating that such purchases are approaching pre-COVID levels. Mask sales are also impacted by the severity of pollen season for those with allergies.
Producers of masks and other COVID-related gear have started to adjust output. MinebeaMitsumi said at the end of March that it will stop selling nonwoven masks once existing stock runs out.
Mitsubishi Chemical Group said its shipments of acrylic boards, used to make indoor partitions, have more than halved since their peak in 2020.
In Laibo’s survey, 75% of respondents said they plan to either continue to mask all the time or as needed. Many companies, including Aeon and Mitsubishi Heavy, have not decided what they will do once Japan downgrades COVID-19 to the same category of infectious diseases as the seasonal flu in May.
Other countries are moving away from masks. Only around 20% of people in the U.K. were still masking as of June 2022, a British research company found. Even in the U.S., where masking remains more common than in most of the West, the figure stood at less than 50%.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Masked-Japan-90-cover-face-1-month-after-rules-lifted?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Masked Japan: 90% cover face 1 month after rules lifted
…/…cut by me master transition…/…https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Masked-Japan-90-cover-face-1-month-after-rules-lifted?
here let me help some, encourage unmasking, get some mass injury, some darwinian arseholery from the anglo giants that way
some anglo darwinian arseholery, world leaders

Fuck The CCP And Their
…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/07/hong-kong-protests-charges-anti-face-mask-laws
…
Ban On Masks
…
With Exceptions For Medical Need
…

…
Oh Fuck Wait
…
That’s Just A Stylised White Cancel Culture Symbol, The Fine Print Says Welcome
LOL

SCIENCE said:
LOL
omicron your best friend, the covid immunizer
ignore the mass maiming
transition said:
SCIENCE said:LOL
omicron your best friend, the covid immunizer
ignore the mass maiming
SCIENCE said:
COVID-19 Is A Capitalism-Democracy Conspiracy¡
well, there’s so much debt, teetering complete undermining of national currencies, don’t expect honesty to keep that appearing respectable, you’ll get sand in your eyes bullshit distraction, constantly
how else could it work
Well, you’re wrong, obviously it

means that immunodeficiency actually makes you more resistant to COVID-19 infection¡
poikilotherm said:
Evening, plenty of vaccinations but no masks.
Well, that’s right, masks are cheap, less-effective vaccinations are a better earner, but if you can get them all to catch SARACAIDS-CoV then the payoff is big when they need them nirmatrelvir + ritonavirs¡
Proof That Mask Wearers And Anyone Else Who Takes Pandemic Precautions Are Stupid Racist Pricks Who Don’t Care About Anyone Else

Fuck CHINA the bastards¡
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-37697-1
We have developed an intranasal vaccine candidate based on a live attenuated influenza virus (LAIV) with a deleted NS1 gene that encodes cell surface expression of the receptor-binding-domain (RBD) of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, designated DelNS1-RBD4N-DAF. Immune responses and protection against virus challenge following intranasal administration of DelNS1-RBD4N-DAF vaccines were analyzed in mice and compared with intramuscular injection of the BioNTech BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine in hamsters. DelNS1-RBD4N-DAF LAIVs induced high levels of neutralizing antibodies against various SARS-CoV-2 variants in mice and hamsters and stimulated robust T cell responses in mice. Notably, vaccination with DelNS1-RBD4N-DAF LAIVs, but not BNT162b2 mRNA, prevented replication of SARS-CoV-2 variants, including Delta and Omicron BA.2, in the respiratory tissues of animals.
SCIENCE said:
poikilotherm said:
Evening, plenty of vaccinations but no masks.
Well, that’s right, masks are cheap, less-effective vaccinations are a better earner, but if you can get them all to catch SARACAIDS-CoV then the payoff is big when they need them nirmatrelvir + ritonavirs¡
Haven’t seen many lf those lately either. Pfizer gets most of the $$$ for those anyway at $1.1k per pack .
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:
poikilotherm said:
Evening, plenty of vaccinations but no masks.
Well, that’s right, masks are cheap, less-effective vaccinations are a better earner, but if you can get them all to catch SARACAIDS-CoV then the payoff is big when they need them nirmatrelvir + ritonavirs¡
Haven’t seen many lf those lately either. Pfizer gets most of the $$$ for those anyway at $1.1k per pack .
Fine, we’re not happy to but might still cough up $100 or so for some autism but we’re going to be trying as hard as we can to avoid Loved Pax.
ASIANS Don’t Care About Human Rights
Wait
SCIENCE said:
ASIANS Don’t Care About Human Rights
Wait
no masks in healthcare settings, in the context of covid, doesn’t pass even modest community notions of basic prophylaxis requirements
this suggests to me that hospitals, doctors, and ‘medicine’ have been subject to perceptual adjustment for ideological purposes, they are the enemy in some way as a model
they medicalize covid transmission, so would ordinarily be inclined to prevent it
the normalizers – covidmongers – want to de-medicalize it, and for maximum effect you would go about doing that in healthcare settings
and get kids to freely transmit it, via schools
as you were, continue with the mass maiming, and hello darwinian arseholes


Only Because You Weren’t Testing For Herpes
Echo Chamber


SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Demographic fine detail from Newspoll suggests a widening of the age divide and a surge for Labor in Victoria.
The Australian today brings the latest Newspoll state and demographic breakdowns, which accumulate results from the three Newspolls conducted since early February. This is the second such set of results since the election, the first accumulating results from July through to December last year. Labor’s headline lead on voting intention has been fairly consistent through both periods, but the breakdowns offer at least a suggestion of movement beneath the surface, most notably with respect to age: the latest results have Labor up five among the 18-to-34 cohort to 43%, but down four among 65-plus to 31%. It may also be noteworthy that the biggest change at state level is a gain by Labor at the Greens’ expense in Victoria, where the two parties are respectively up four to 41% and down two to 11%.
https://www.pollbludger.net/2023/04/15/newspoll-breakdowns-february-to-april/
This does present the Coalition’s problem starkly.
Every year, about 350000 Australians reach voting age and about 180000 (mainly elderly) Australians die.
Thankfully SARACAIDS-CoV could evolve to cause more severe disease and death in young people¡
Oh Fuck Sorry We Meant




The Opposite ¿¡
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Demographic fine detail from Newspoll suggests a widening of the age divide and a surge for Labor in Victoria.
The Australian today brings the latest Newspoll state and demographic breakdowns, which accumulate results from the three Newspolls conducted since early February. This is the second such set of results since the election, the first accumulating results from July through to December last year. Labor’s headline lead on voting intention has been fairly consistent through both periods, but the breakdowns offer at least a suggestion of movement beneath the surface, most notably with respect to age: the latest results have Labor up five among the 18-to-34 cohort to 43%, but down four among 65-plus to 31%. It may also be noteworthy that the biggest change at state level is a gain by Labor at the Greens’ expense in Victoria, where the two parties are respectively up four to 41% and down two to 11%.
https://www.pollbludger.net/2023/04/15/newspoll-breakdowns-february-to-april/
This does present the Coalition’s problem starkly.
Every year, about 350000 Australians reach voting age and about 180000 (mainly elderly) Australians die.
Thankfully SARACAIDS-CoV could evolve to cause more severe disease and death in young people¡
Oh Fuck Sorry We Meant
The Opposite ¿¡

SCIENCE said:
Echo Chamber
~6-8% appear to have a preexisting condition, but i’d guess the situation is much worse than that
when asked questions put like that people will make the right noises, in practice though they don’t want to be too responsible for air, the air they exchange, swapping air
the invisible stuff disperses and mixes all the time, I mean if people thought about it too much they’d start to wonder if they were responsible for brownian motion, I jest
Can’t find other supporting evidence for this but it’s possible.

SCIENCE said:
Can’t find other supporting evidence for this but it’s possible.
not sure about that anecdote, but will say the we is a wonderful thing, makes for diminished responsibility when needed, just as of a firing squad, that example of overdetermination might be instructive
enough of something around nobody is responsible
not a rare thing in and of liberal culture
Conspiracy Theorist Blames Big Pharma’

Just A Little Disease Not To Be Mentioned Sorry We Mean Just A Little Freudian Slip
THE PRESIDENT: What’s the top step to succ- — to success?
CHILD: Yes.
⚠ keep reading
This three-part series takes listeners inside the failed federal response to COVID-19 and explores the massive volunteer effort to collect data about the disease.
I just heard the tail end of Part 1 on the radio.
Tell yous something
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-17/jessica-watson-charting-her-course-australian-story/101768792
Besides, she hopes it can make a difference by fundraising for the Stroke Foundation.
She is here to tell people: “For goodness sake, get your blood pressure checked.”
else for which preventative actions will significantly decrease someone’s chances of a stroke.
Hey wait up what’s this¿ Why
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-16/dangerous-parasite-found-in-fish-across-nsw/102221202
Professor Shamsi said there were many different types of fish parasites that could infect humans, with typical symptoms consisting of stomach pain and vomiting. But she said preventing infection from Eustrongylides excisus was “easy”. “All we have to do is make sure we cook fish and like any other food items, like vegetables, red meat or chicken, if you cook them properly you minimise or completely remove the risk of infection,” she said. “Although the parasite is quite dangerous it’s easily preventable so there is no need to panic and we all can continue eating seafood.”
the fuck would anyone do that¿ You don’t need to minimise or remove the risk of infection, you shouldn’t fucking cook that shit. Seafood is more enjoyable with stomach pain and vomiting done raw¡ Go and get sick For The Economy Must Grow¡
Let
It
Professor Shamsi said if humans consumed infected fish and became infected with the parasite, it could burrow in the gut and behave similarly to how it did in native birds. “It usually penetrates the stomach or gastrointestinal tract of the body and is quite harmful,” she said.
RIP®¡
LOL
Rockland County officials said that polio typically hits seasonally, with outbreaks more commonly occurring during the summer — which is why they are stressing the importance of getting vaccinated before that time comes.
Sorry, we thought in the vaccine-immunisation age poliomyelitis typically doesn’t occur at all, but WTF would we know, we didn’t catch it.
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Rockland County officials said that polio typically hits seasonally, with outbreaks more commonly occurring during the summer — which is why they are stressing the importance of getting vaccinated before that time comes.
Sorry, we thought in the vaccine-immunisation age poliomyelitis typically doesn’t occur at all, but WTF would we know, we didn’t catch it.
you’re promoting disease prevention, it’s a slippery slope to nationalism
a sprinkle of all sorts everywhere helps soften national boundaries
LOL fucking genius¡
NSW Health to dispose of at least 12.7 million rapid antigen tests
HealthShare NSW is seeking information about environmentally sustainable solutions to recycle and reform large quantities of unused and damaged or expired rapid antigen test kits and unused latex/nitrile gloves.

About 7940 pallets of COVID-19 self-test nasal and saliva kits equating to 779.7 tonnes of tests have been stored in a warehouse. The tender also lists 57 pallets of COVID points of care nasal kits, 31 pallets of nitrile gloves and 115 pallets of latex gloves for prospective tenderers to recycle.
So if you have this “longco vid” thing for 2 years, that’ll be like having influenza for 2 years¿

Fuck no thanks¡
Except the irony here is



that this really is the way that vaccinations first worked, and prevented lethal and disabling disease¡
lockdown revisionism
https://www.cmaj.ca/content/195/15/E552
Here, we discuss the spread of misinformation on lockdowns and other public health measures, which we refer to as “lock-down revisionism,” and how this phenomenon has damaged trust in public health initiatives designed to keep people safer.
LOL


SCIENCE said:
lockdown revisionism
https://www.cmaj.ca/content/195/15/E552
Here, we discuss the spread of misinformation on lockdowns and other public health measures, which we refer to as “lock-down revisionism,” and how this phenomenon has damaged trust in public health initiatives designed to keep people safer.
read that
my personal view is you need consider of the broader population who, and the how the numbers work, regard people that have an interest in sabotaging prophylaxis efforts
which is perhaps more a social psychology proposition
transition said:
SCIENCE said:lockdown revisionism
https://www.cmaj.ca/content/195/15/E552
Here, we discuss the spread of misinformation on lockdowns and other public health measures, which we refer to as “lock-down revisionism,” and how this phenomenon has damaged trust in public health initiatives designed to keep people safer.
read that
my personal view is you need consider of the broader population who, and the how the numbers work, regard people that have an interest in sabotaging prophylaxis efforts
which is perhaps more a social psychology proposition
I mean, it seems quite arguable there was not just a contagious pathogen, but also a contagion of notions that sabotage even basic native disease avoidance tendencies, which I might suggest appeals to a not uncommon ‘deviancy’ (if you will) of human minds, its ways
SCIENCE said:
Except the irony here is
that this really is the way that vaccinations first worked, and prevented lethal and disabling disease¡
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M23-0793
reading that^
Excellent¡ SARACAIDS-CoV Is Just The ‘Flu’® If You Make Sure You Are Highly Vaccinated And Get Infected Half As Often As You Might Get Influenza And Pretend You Only Need To Think 12 Months Ahead¡

I just have to report – I still haven’t had Covid
Good.
Arts said:
I just have to report – I still haven’t had Covid
Nor I.
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
I just have to report – I still haven’t had Covid
Nor I.
I’m glad Arts has never had you.
Arts said:
I just have to report – I still haven’t had Covid
I haven’t had COVID either. And neither has Mr buffy. And Mr buffy got rat-ed at the hospital yesterday when they admitted him for surgery, so he didn’t have it then either.
SCIENCE said:
Excellent¡ SARACAIDS-CoV Is Just The ‘Flu’® If You Make Sure You Are Highly Vaccinated And Get Infected Half As Often As You Might Get Influenza And Pretend You Only Need To Think 12 Months Ahead¡
I hope the flu group hadn’t previously had covid
buffy said:
Arts said:
I just have to report – I still haven’t had Covid
I haven’t had COVID either. And neither has Mr buffy. And Mr buffy got rat-ed at the hospital yesterday when they admitted him for surgery, so he didn’t have it then either.
Mr arts has had it twice. Both children have had it once. I have not had it.. unless I’m asymptomatic and typhoid artsesque
transition said:
SCIENCE said:Excellent¡ SARACAIDS-CoV Is Just The ‘Flu’® If You Make Sure You Are Highly Vaccinated And Get Infected Half As Often As You Might Get Influenza And Pretend You Only Need To Think 12 Months Ahead¡
I hope the flu group hadn’t previously had covid
if a lot of the flu group had covid previously it may converge the outcomes
Arts said:
buffy said:
Arts said:
I just have to report – I still haven’t had Covid
I haven’t had COVID either. And neither has Mr buffy. And Mr buffy got rat-ed at the hospital yesterday when they admitted him for surgery, so he didn’t have it then either.
Mr arts has had it twice. Both children have had it once. I have not had it.. unless I’m asymptomatic and typhoid artsesque
The Ross people have had it, nobody else in the family at this stage.
Arts said:
I just have to report – I still haven’t had Covid
Same.
Arts said:
buffy said:
Arts said:
I just have to report – I still haven’t had Covid
I haven’t had COVID either. And neither has Mr buffy. And Mr buffy got rat-ed at the hospital yesterday when they admitted him for surgery, so he didn’t have it then either.
Mr arts has had it twice. Both children have had it once. I have not had it.. unless I’m asymptomatic and typhoid artsesque
Typhoid Arts.
transition said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:Excellent¡ SARACAIDS-CoV Is Just The ‘Flu’® If You Make Sure You Are Highly Vaccinated And Get Infected Half As Often As You Might Get Influenza And Pretend You Only Need To Think 12 Months Ahead¡
I hope the flu group hadn’t previously had covid
if a lot of the flu group had covid previously it may converge the outcomes
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-17/long-covid-on-par-with-flu-in-highly-vaccinated-population/102230066
I hope they weren’t so stupid, but as things are these days, it’s all held together by bullshit
transition said:
transition said:
transition said:
I hope the flu group hadn’t previously had covid
if a lot of the flu group had covid previously it may converge the outcomes
I hope they weren’t so stupid, but as things are these days, it’s all held together by bullshit
Now just for a moment imagine if influenza were like a mild COVID-19, and it was asymptomatic or very mild in a large number of cases, so that most influenza cases were never diagnosed because they were too mild to even test…
Surely not, impossible¡
And then as you say just imagine if one infection made people more susceptible to another infection, also impossible, nobody ever heard of opportunistic… uh… opportunistic chaos agency we mean to say.
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
transition said:
if a lot of the flu group had covid previously it may converge the outcomes
I hope they weren’t so stupid, but as things are these days, it’s all held together by bullshit
Now just for a moment imagine if influenza were like a mild COVID-19, and it was asymptomatic or very mild in a large number of cases, so that most influenza cases were never diagnosed because they were too mild to even test…
Surely not, impossible¡
And then as you say just imagine if one infection made people more susceptible to another infection, also impossible, nobody ever heard of opportunistic… uh… opportunistic chaos agency we mean to say.
held together by bullshit, don’t think for a moment the situation of human civilization is going to be a truth generator as it is
not the least bit possible or likely
Good News¡ Democracy Ends Pandemics¡

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Good News¡ Democracy Ends Pandemics¡
As does your age, it appears.
Ahahahahahahaha¡



Oh shit sorry we thought ‘e meant “funny” as in “amusing” but maybe ‘e didn’t.
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Ahahahahahahaha¡
Oh shit sorry we thought ‘e meant “funny” as in “amusing” but maybe ‘e didn’t.
I… Don’t even know how to respond to that.
They’re completely right, though… Those things would go a lot further to reducing burnout in nurses than letting them go without masks.
Similarly, I find it amusing that people don’t understand why there’s a shortage of doctors here … Maybe, just maybe it’s because they’re forced to work long hours, only getting a single day off work during the week if they’re lucky, and don’t get paid nearly enough….
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Oh shit sorry we thought ‘e meant “funny” as in “amusing” but maybe ‘e didn’t.
I… Don’t even know how to respond to that.
They’re completely right, though… Those things would go a lot further to reducing burnout in nurses than letting them go without masks.
Similarly, I find it amusing that people don’t understand why there’s a shortage of doctors here … Maybe, just maybe it’s because they’re forced to work long hours, only getting a single day off work during the week if they’re lucky, and don’t get paid nearly enough….
Operating theatres aren’t designed to be easily or automatically cleaned without human effort. In my ideal world a theatre would be housed in a glass bell.
You need a one time through flow of air. My ideal hospital would be built near the beach encouraging ocean air through the wards and a minimisation of air conditioning.
As a point of interest I briefly worked through aged care facilities – the best one I found was up on the top of a hill, air blasted through the place – no air conditioning except for a few locations. No one sat in their rooms quietly dying, all found a reason to be active and socialise.
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Good News¡ Democracy Ends Pandemics¡
I thinks the question clearly has a trajectory of intention, evident in the wording, and it works quite well, I mean who would want a pandemic to continue indefinitely
Time for one of yous geniuses to step up and do the reading of sources¡
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23780771/mwg-executive-summary-april-16-2023.pdf
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23782225/mwg-fdr-document-04-16-23-1.pdf
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Time for one of yous geniuses to step up and do the reading of sources¡
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23780771/mwg-executive-summary-april-16-2023.pdf
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23782225/mwg-fdr-document-04-16-23-1.pdf
I reads them, am
i’ll make a coffee
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https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23780771/mwg-executive-summary-april-16-2023.pdf
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23782225/mwg-fdr-document-04-16-23-1.pdf
I reads them, am
i’ll make a coffee
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23780771/mwg-executive-summary-april-16-2023.pdf
getting into that^, very good read
We mean thank fuck that Australian hospitals haven’t gone all the way with this shit yet but we’ren’t holding our breath*.




Disclaimer actually readers added context.
*: actually literally in between masks we do
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https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23780771/mwg-executive-summary-april-16-2023.pdf
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23782225/mwg-fdr-document-04-16-23-1.pdf
I reads them, am
i’ll make a coffee
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23780771/mwg-executive-summary-april-16-2023.pdf
getting into that^, very good read
finished reading that, get to other later, cheers, master science
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We mean thank fuck that Australian hospitals haven’t gone all the way with this shit yet but we’ren’t holding our breath*.
Disclaimer actually readers added context.
*: actually literally in between masks we do
strange people are, lot times been up to mum’s wearing masks last, well, year it is, bit longer
wore one then inside properly fit earlier, kept my distance, mum says I don’t think we been around anyone with covid, as if they might give something to me, I had to remind her it was so I didn’t give them anything
dad’s just had major surgery, feeling lowly
so I dunno, once that TV does its special work…the ‘health’ messaging
In Other Breaking Great News, Turns Out Generative AI Is Just CHINA¡





(also)

We mean the output is cheap mass produced copycat chaff.
LOL
2023-04-13
2023-04-18
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I reads them, am
i’ll make a coffee
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23780771/mwg-executive-summary-april-16-2023.pdf
getting into that^, very good read
finished reading that, get to other later, cheers, master science
On the other hand here’s an opinion from a typically “there’s no leak, shut up and keep quiet” perspective, as we’ve said, we’re leaving the reading to others this time so we can’t really comment.

https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1648458957722390529
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https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23780771/mwg-executive-summary-april-16-2023.pdf
getting into that^, very good read
finished reading that, get to other later, cheers, master science
On the other hand here’s an opinion from a typically “there’s no leak, shut up and keep quiet” perspective, as we’ve said, we’re leaving the reading to others this time so we can’t really comment.
https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1648458957722390529
We apologise in advance if it turns out the reading is a big fucking waste of time.


This angie_rasmussen comrade has been wrong in the past but the concerns raised do prima facie appear legit’.
Could get some excitement soon.

Good News¡ If You Don’t Test, Your Risk Of Death Remains At Baseline¡

Disclaimer: this above is a consequence of limiting testing, and also, emphasising these numbers is a way for the bastards to discourage people from testing.
Even Better News¡ Money To Be Made By Ensuring People Get More Chronic COVID-19¡
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01292-7
Thomas Hummel, who researches smell and taste disorders at the Technical University of Dresden in Germany, describes international efforts to help patients who have lost their sense of smell, perhaps as a result of COVID-19, head trauma, chronic rhinosinusitis, and neurodegenerative diseases. Hummel points to the development of cochlear implants to help patients with hearing loss. “There could be similar implants inside the nasal cavity connected to the olfactory bulb, eliciting a pattern that might make sense to the brain,” he says.
Hey look this article is old now but none of us heard about it because well you know anything to avoid encouraging people to avoid infection right¿
Military Pilots Reported 1,700% More Medical Incidents During the Pandemic. The Pentagon Says They Just Had COVID
So uh this is totally normal and good for national security right¿
Bullshit, this is totally 300% a laboratory leak, everyone knows that QLD is Bioweapon Central Australia.

ABLV is related to rabies and is usually fatal if contracted by humans. Only three cases of human infection have been recorded in Australia since ABLV was first detected in a flying fox in Ballina in 1994. However all three were in Queensland, and all three were fatal. Surveys of wild bat populations have indicated less than one per cent of bats carry ABLV. In sick and injured bats, around seven per cent have been found to carry the virus.
Health authorities have warned people they should never handle bats after concerned members of the public came in contact with an animal carrying a deadly virus. The bat, which was found hanging low in a tree at the Southern Beaches Community Garden in Tugun on Tuesday April 11, was later found to be carrying the Australian Bat Lyssavirus (ABLV).
Well all right we admit: we laughed.



But then we realised that was still giving too much credit, to assume that there was even any “cognitive” to begin with.
Not really COVID-19 but interesting and somewhat intelligent.
https://www.science.org/content/article/now-we-know-why-hibernating-bears-don-t-get-blood-clots
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Well all right we admit: we laughed.
But then we realised that was still giving too much credit, to assume that there was even any “cognitive” to begin with.
what more impressed me was the prolonged symptoms from flu at three months(from the little I reads), the longer-flu
crosseyes derrr
‘em dones a dumb study
includes flu errrr
did consult comparativity
ignore longer flu
it covid-induced could be
not tellin’s prefer
give ya a correct thinkies
truth obliteraters

Can’t they just convert all those offices
now wasted and declining in value because of pandemic and working from home
into residences, and they would all be within 1 km of railnode too.
Actually FUCK, totally.
While most Canadians – 82 per cent – still say vaccines are important during childhood, that number has dropped 8.2 percentage points since before the onset of COVID-19, the Unicef report found.
⚠ actually FUCK, totally
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Actually FUCK, totally.
While most Canadians – 82 per cent – still say vaccines are important during childhood, that number has dropped 8.2 percentage points since before the onset of COVID-19, the Unicef report found.
⚠ actually FUCK, totally
while I reads that, crosseyes derr I just wants a little bit of clarificationcationcationclarity
‘….vaccine-preventable illness….’
is covid that^
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Actually FUCK, totally.
While most Canadians – 82 per cent – still say vaccines are important during childhood, that number has dropped 8.2 percentage points since before the onset of COVID-19, the Unicef report found.
⚠ actually FUCK, totally
while I reads that, crosseyes derr I just wants a little bit of clarificationcationcationclarity
‘….vaccine-preventable illness….’
is covid that^
Well hey let’s set aside our differences for a moment and consider our points of agreement, at the peak of efficacy we’re willing to give it a say 0.67 fractional reduction in transmission, as in your risk at the early time of 2 dosed mRNA (Pfizer Comirnaty WTFever) might have been down to 1/3, but
noting of course that CHINA and other places are still working their arses off to come up with something better, perhaps an inhaled, mucosally sterilising vaccine but it hasn’t been demonstrably successful yet.
Why Operate At Low Levels When You Can Dance With Danger At High Levels ¿

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Why Operate At Low Levels When You Can Dance With Danger At High Levels ¿
Taking away masks from front line workers should be a crime.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:Why Operate At Low Levels When You Can Dance With Danger At High Levels ¿
Taking away masks from front line workers should be a crime.
They should launch a class action and sue for being unnecessarily injured on the job.
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Actually FUCK, totally.
While most Canadians – 82 per cent – still say vaccines are important during childhood, that number has dropped 8.2 percentage points since before the onset of COVID-19, the Unicef report found.
⚠ actually FUCK, totally
while I reads that, crosseyes derr I just wants a little bit of clarificationcationcationclarity
‘….vaccine-preventable illness….’
is covid that^
Well hey let’s set aside our differences for a moment and consider our points of agreement, at the peak of efficacy we’re willing to give it a say 0.67 fractional reduction in transmission, as in your risk at the early time of 2 dosed mRNA (Pfizer Comirnaty WTFever) might have been down to 1/3, but
- absolutely we agree with your implication, that the level of actual prevention from vaccines is currently about 0.1 (so a person otherwise with 100% risk of infection is 90% likely to get fucked)
- absolutely we agree with your previous and ongoing concerns that the hard sell of vaccines was designed to trade off other preventative measures, and was technically and ethically wrong
noting of course that CHINA and other places are still working their arses off to come up with something better, perhaps an inhaled, mucosally sterilising vaccine but it hasn’t been demonstrably successful yet.
i’d say, as an analogy, it’s like a car manufacturer has gone with crash airbags, and done away with seatbelts, and campaigned against speed limits
We mean, it’s brilliant propaganda which we approve of in this way, well played.
Coachella festival-goers suffering from ‘festival flu’ | The symptoms and how to prevent it
Symptoms are similar to a cold or flu and are mostly due to dry and dusty desert conditions.
If you’re headed out this weekend for part two, the best way to avoid festival flu is to drink plenty of water, get plenty of rest, take allergy medicine, and inhalers, and consider wearing a mask. “It should be a proper mask so it should be an N95 mask, that’s really what’s going to protect you from that particular matter,” added Dr. Olulade.
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while I reads that, crosseyes derr I just wants a little bit of clarificationcationcationclarity
‘….vaccine-preventable illness….’
is covid that^
Well hey let’s set aside our differences for a moment and consider our points of agreement, at the peak of efficacy we’re willing to give it a say 0.67 fractional reduction in transmission, as in your risk at the early time of 2 dosed mRNA (Pfizer Comirnaty WTFever) might have been down to 1/3, but
- absolutely we agree with your implication, that the level of actual prevention from vaccines is currently about 0.1 (so a person otherwise with 100% risk of infection is 90% likely to get fucked)
- absolutely we agree with your previous and ongoing concerns that the hard sell of vaccines was designed to trade off other preventative measures, and was technically and ethically wrong
noting of course that CHINA and other places are still working their arses off to come up with something better, perhaps an inhaled, mucosally sterilising vaccine but it hasn’t been demonstrably successful yet.
i’d say, as an analogy, it’s like a car manufacturer has gone with crash airbags, and done away with seatbelts, and campaigned against speed limits
We just remembered, additionally
.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23468584.scotlands-death-rate-march-higher-five-year-average/
THE death rate from Covid has halved in Scotland compared to a year ago, with mortality rates from cancer, dementia and respiratory diseases also lower than average for the time of year. However, the latest figures from the National Records of Scotland (NRS) still show that more people are dying than expected when compared to the five year average.
Its statistics point to an ongoing surge in deaths from “other” causes – which can cover everything from suicides and falls to medical emergencies such as sepsis – for the increase. This miscellaneous category covers anything that is not included in the other groupings, so can be anything except cancer, Covid, circulatory or respiratory causes, or dementia deaths.
Compared to the five-year average, the number of deaths recorded in March showed an increase of 10 per cent – up by 526 – continuing the pattern seen during 2022. It excludes 2020 due to the abnormally high numbers of deaths which occurred in the early stages of the Covid pandemic.
Why exclude 2020 as “abnormally high“¿ This is the New Normal® anyway¡
Who cares though, this is just a mild cough for the majority of people.


Sorry wrong copypaste.

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We mean, it’s brilliant propaganda which we approve of in this way, well played.
How To Sneak A Mask Recommendation Past The “Viruses Don’t Exist” Idiots
Coachella festival-goers suffering from ‘festival flu’ | The symptoms and how to prevent it
Symptoms are similar to a cold or flu and are mostly due to dry and dusty desert conditions.
If you’re headed out this weekend for part two, the best way to avoid festival flu is to drink plenty of water, get plenty of rest, take allergy medicine, and inhalers, and consider wearing a mask. “It should be a proper mask so it should be an N95 mask, that’s really what’s going to protect you from that particular matter,” added Dr. Olulade.
I thinks anything on top of covid is possibly good for you, could be covid five months ago or whatever, it’s a health improver, helps your immunity, no viral insult involved, it was the virus everyone had to have, or has to have
ask your worldist friends, they don’t let a disaster go to waste, opportunity for change you know
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Proof That Israelis Are Just Fucking Weaklings Compared To Real Men From Queensland
Sorry wrong copypaste.
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-739447
apparently the answer to men fighting is women join in
No circular self fulfilling diagnostic tricks here¡
But when she raised the possibility of Asherman’s syndrome with her GP and gynaecologist, they mostly dismissed the idea, she said, noting how rare the condition is.
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No circular self fulfilling diagnostic tricks here¡
But when she raised the possibility of Asherman’s syndrome with her GP and gynaecologist, they mostly dismissed the idea, she said, noting how rare the condition is.
I has me a reads, keeps it learnies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherman%27s_syndrome
“Asherman’s syndrome (AS) is an acquired uterine condition that occurs when scar tissue (adhesions) forms inside the uterus and/or the cervix. It is characterized by variable scarring inside the uterine cavity, where in many cases the front and back walls of the uterus stick to one another. AS can be the cause of menstrual disturbances, infertility, and placental abnormalities. Although the first case of intrauterine adhesion was published in 1894 by Heinrich Fritsch, it was only after 54 years that a full description of Asherman syndrome was carried out by Joseph Asherman. A number of other terms have been used to describe the condition and related conditions including: uterine/cervical atresia, traumatic uterine atrophy, sclerotic endometrium, and endometrial sclerosis.
There is not any one cause of AS. Risk factors can include myomectomy, cesarean section, infections, age, genital tuberculosis, and obesity. Genetic predisposition to AS is being investigated. There are also studies that show that a severe pelvic infection, independent of surgery may cause AS. AS can develop even if the woman has not had any uterine surgeries, trauma, or pregnancies. While rare in North America and European countries, genital tuberculosis is a cause of Asherman’s in other countries such as India..”
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/04/long-covid-symptoms-invisible-disability-chronic-illness/673773/
I’s just now reading that, goes on reads a few others shortly
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By Ed Yong
Yeah been a reliable source.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/04/long-covid-symptoms-invisible-disability-chronic-illness/673773/I’s just now reading that, goes on reads a few others shortly
okay gots to the bottom of that, reads all the ways down, I had to trick the page to display it all, not says how did that, my secret, I likes seecwerts
I could adds my thinkies, my derrr, gots a derrr, got neuron
crosseyes flickering eyelids, and wheezing grunting sound wow that hurts behind the eyes
nah not tonight
LOL
No need for contraception soon¡
Sexually transmitted infections (STIs) are skyrocketing in the United States, according to the latest data, as gonorrhea, syphilis, and congenital syphilis soared above pre-pandemic levels in 2021. All are preventable and curable if detected early. If that’s the case, why are the numbers increasing?
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LOL
No need for contraception soon¡
Sexually transmitted infections (STIs) are skyrocketing in the United States, according to the latest data, as gonorrhea, syphilis, and congenital syphilis soared above pre-pandemic levels in 2021. All are preventable and curable if detected early. If that’s the case, why are the numbers increasing?
Sometimes I get the feeling that we are watching the downfall of an empire.
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Proof That Israelis Are Just Fucking Weaklings Compared To Real Men From Queensland
Sorry wrong copypaste.
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-739447
apparently the answer to men fighting is women join in
About 70 per cent of people in Hong Kong infected with the coronavirus had at least one symptom of long Covid five months after they became ill and one in 10 suffered from reproductive health and menstrual problems, a survey has found.
Tau.Neutrino said:
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SCIENCE said:
Why Operate At Low Levels When You Can Dance With Danger At High Levels ¿
Taking away masks from front line workers should be a crime.
They should launch a class action and sue for being unnecessarily injured on the job.
Wait up is this our surprised face¿

Curiously, this shit doesn’t say what they think it says, have a look, masks actually lag infections…


That behaviour-altering parasite effect might be stronger than you think¡ It’s certainly stronger than rational thought¡
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Wait up is this our surprised face¿
https://neworleanscitybusiness.com/blog/2023/04/17/long-covid-is-hurting-business/
Three years after the start of the pandemic, millions of working age people still suffer from long COVID-19 and some lawmakers and advocates, including people with long COVID, say not enough is being done to protect their well-being and ensure they can continue to be employed.
With roughly 16 million people of working age reported to have some symptoms of long COVID, economists say there are long-term implications for the U.S. economy if workplace needs are not addressed.
The total cost of long COVID to the U.S. economy is a fluid figure. Last year, a Harvard University economist upped his initial estimate by roughly a trillion dollars to $3.7 trillion, with $997 billion of that amount being from lost earnings. In addition, studies have found that people with long COVID work 50% fewer hours and earn on average 18% less over the course of a year because of their illness.
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Wait up is this our surprised face¿
https://neworleanscitybusiness.com/blog/2023/04/17/long-covid-is-hurting-business/
Three years after the start of the pandemic, millions of working age people still suffer from long COVID-19 and some lawmakers and advocates, including people with long COVID, say not enough is being done to protect their well-being and ensure they can continue to be employed.
With roughly 16 million people of working age reported to have some symptoms of long COVID, economists say there are long-term implications for the U.S. economy if workplace needs are not addressed.
The total cost of long COVID to the U.S. economy is a fluid figure. Last year, a Harvard University economist upped his initial estimate by roughly a trillion dollars to $3.7 trillion, with $997 billion of that amount being from lost earnings. In addition, studies have found that people with long COVID work 50% fewer hours and earn on average 18% less over the course of a year because of their illness.
No, no, wait up more,


actually speaking of behaviour-altering parasites, this is just the analogous situation to paralytic rabies (20%) and furious rabies (80%), except the proportions are reversed.
Classic Australian perspective.
Australia has an official rabies-free status, although Australian bat lyssavirus (ABLV), discovered in 1996, is a strain of rabies prevalent in Australian native bat populations.
SCIENCE said:
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Wait up is this our surprised face¿
https://neworleanscitybusiness.com/blog/2023/04/17/long-covid-is-hurting-business/
Three years after the start of the pandemic, millions of working age people still suffer from long COVID-19 and some lawmakers and advocates, including people with long COVID, say not enough is being done to protect their well-being and ensure they can continue to be employed.
With roughly 16 million people of working age reported to have some symptoms of long COVID, economists say there are long-term implications for the U.S. economy if workplace needs are not addressed.
The total cost of long COVID to the U.S. economy is a fluid figure. Last year, a Harvard University economist upped his initial estimate by roughly a trillion dollars to $3.7 trillion, with $997 billion of that amount being from lost earnings. In addition, studies have found that people with long COVID work 50% fewer hours and earn on average 18% less over the course of a year because of their illness.
No, no, wait up more,
actually speaking of behaviour-altering parasites, this is just the analogous situation to paralytic rabies (20%) and furious rabies (80%), except the proportions are reversed.
there’s always a good sprinkle of people in a population, that, arguably might be described as domestic terrorists
they lend themselves to all sorts, quite unconsciously a lot of them
broadly a lot of it might be described as denationalization, lends to, and as it goes like all good ideas, applied beyond some point it’s quite simply abuse, destructive
What’s Worse Than Gatekeeping Others From Doing Your Job, Xor Not Doing The Job That Is Yours¿

Gatekeeping Others From Doing The Job That Is Yours But That You’re Not Doing, Duh.
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https://neworleanscitybusiness.com/blog/2023/04/17/long-covid-is-hurting-business/
Three years after the start of the pandemic, millions of working age people still suffer from long COVID-19 and some lawmakers and advocates, including people with long COVID, say not enough is being done to protect their well-being and ensure they can continue to be employed.
With roughly 16 million people of working age reported to have some symptoms of long COVID, economists say there are long-term implications for the U.S. economy if workplace needs are not addressed.
The total cost of long COVID to the U.S. economy is a fluid figure. Last year, a Harvard University economist upped his initial estimate by roughly a trillion dollars to $3.7 trillion, with $997 billion of that amount being from lost earnings. In addition, studies have found that people with long COVID work 50% fewer hours and earn on average 18% less over the course of a year because of their illness.
No, no, wait up more,
actually speaking of behaviour-altering parasites, this is just the analogous situation to paralytic rabies (20%) and furious rabies (80%), except the proportions are reversed.
there’s always a good sprinkle of people in a population, that, arguably might be described as domestic terrorists
they lend themselves to all sorts, quite unconsciously a lot of them
broadly a lot of it might be described as denationalization, lends to, and as it goes like all good ideas, applied beyond some point it’s quite simply abuse, destructive
Hey we’ve seen lots of people around us with COVID-19, the proportions seem right, about 20% of them are furious and hostile and offensive and should STFU, and about 80% of them are just snowed under and rekt and miserable.
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What’s Worse Than Gatekeeping Others From Doing Your Job, Xor Not Doing The Job That Is Yours¿
Gatekeeping Others From Doing The Job That Is Yours But That You’re Not Doing, Duh.
you shall worship evolution, make the darwinian arseholery your own, do your bit
and good morning to the darwinian arseholes out there, that wouldn’t venture a paragraph of their own words, their own thoughts, abstracting their instincts
Like call us SCIENCE or whatever but


why would anyone believe this shit that was put forward about how things would last 10 years when it had barely had 10 months of observation¿
So these crazies supposedly did some kind of metaanalysis and boom
Reinfections were more prevalent during the Omicron variant period. The mean age of reinfected patients was 38.0 ± 6. years and females were predominant among reinfected patients (M/F = 0.8). The most common symptoms during the first and second infection were fever (41.1%), cough (35.7% and 44.6%), myalgia (34.5% and 33.3%), fatigue (23.8% and 25.6%), and headaches (24.4% and 21.4%). No significant differences of clinical pattern were observed between primary infection and reinfection. No significant differences in the severity of infection were observed between primary infection and reinfection.
https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/15/4/967
but don’t worry, metaanalysis is only good if it says that masks don’t work.
In Breaking News,

The Main Is Starting To Stream
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In Breaking News,
The Main Is Starting To Stream
Excellent. They deserve it.
Original Vaccines Made Useless By Let It Rip® Leaving Pathogen Free To Evolve
Freedom¡
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Original Vaccines Made Useless By Let It Rip® Leaving Pathogen Free To Evolve
Freedom¡
be a funny turn of events if something like gain of function research moved out into the entire human population and fairly much anything that breathes on the planet
if there was a derr cunt over-prolific species to do it, didn’t want travel inconvenienced, maybe humans could help with that
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SCIENCE said:Original Vaccines Made Useless By Let It Rip® Leaving Pathogen Free To Evolve
Freedom¡
be a funny turn of events if something like gain of function research moved out into the entire human population and fairly much anything that breathes on the planet
if there was a derr cunt over-prolific species to do it, didn’t want travel inconvenienced, maybe humans could help with that
and reading this below
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gain-of-function_research
having a reread, then to wiki a chronology of covid as unfolded in queensland
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-17/long-covid-on-par-with-flu-in-highly-vaccinated-population/102230066
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Queensland
I continues to wonders, of two samples ninety days post infection of covid, and influenza, regard symptoms, i’m not trying the merge them conceptually, others seem to be doing that, but it lingers in my mind what the effect on the flu sample is (the likelihood) of previously having had covid, which some surely would
i’ll ignore for a moment that it’s probably very uncommon for flu-related post viral effects to extend way out to something like covid, but whatever someone can provide evidence they are similar, take six months for example, or eight months, get back to me
but let’s stay with three months, I wonders what I get if I applies projected infection numbers(+ reinfections) of covid for queensland of june 2022, apply that to the influenza sample
I like to be thorough
What’s This Now Then Eh ¿
Oh
Two men developed psychosis after becoming infected with Covid-19. One of them ultimately received treatment after his concerns were repeatedly dismissed, while the other died of a possible suicide. Now, their families are trying to raise awareness about the rare and devastating condition. Andrea Blanco reports
The article itself doesn’t seem to contain the phrase “long term” nor the term “vaccine” so we don’t know what the fuck is going on there but ah well.
Ah yes but can those right wing trolls even conceive*


of someone in a classroom being pregnant¿
Pro Life¡
*: of course not, they’re all incels duh
SCIENCE said:
Ah yes but can those right wing trolls even conceive*
of someone in a classroom being pregnant¿
Pro Life¡
*: of course not, they’re all incels duh
of that last I think the CO2 is used as a proximate indicator of airflow and refresh, related likelihood or time to inhale airborne covid, swapping air in confined spaces
yawn
which brings me to the purpose of a yawn
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11982039/Face-masks-raise-risk-stillbirths-testicular-issues-cognitive-decline-study-says.html
take a deep breath now
some volume of air reciprocation (recycle) from breathing action is quite normal, which includes CO2, as it goes the volume of air in the lungs and airways can’t be entirely swapped out in a breath, short of spending time in a vacuum, of the latter it would have a nasty drying action also
so it’s a fortunate thing humidity might be maintained that way, and temperature of inhaled air
ever pulled the rugs up over your head when ill in bed, flu, covid or whatever?
the replication rate of a pathogen in the airways might be substantially influenced by air temperature, but don’t take my word for it
but go out there and happily get covid over and over, seems to have worked well for Britain
Laugh Out Loud
Funding to funnel cash into Big Business: $550M in one single state.
ahahahahahahaha
Funding to mitigate the negative health consequences across all of Australia: $50M.
Fuck Yeah¡
Let It Rip®¡
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud
Funding to funnel cash into Big Business: $550M in one single state.
ahahahahahahaha
Funding to mitigate the negative health consequences across all of Australia: $50M.
Fuck Yeah¡
Let It Rip®¡
ignore that unnecessary mass injury there so the travelers can travel without inconvenience, here have some sand in your eyes, along with some responsibility oblivion for your trouble
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud
Funding to funnel cash into Big Business: $550M in one single state.
ahahahahahahaha
Funding to mitigate the negative health consequences across all of Australia: $50M.
Fuck Yeah¡
Let It Rip®¡
COVID parliamentary inquiry hands down report.
1 Masks stop Covid.
2 Nearly 99 percent of the population do not want to wear masks.
3 Covid is only stopped by masks.
for the Gerrard, should he pass through these parts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud
Funding to funnel cash into Big Business: $550M in one single state.
ahahahahahahaha
Funding to mitigate the negative health consequences across all of Australia: $50M.
Fuck Yeah¡
Let It Rip®¡
COVID parliamentary inquiry hands down report.
1 Masks stop Covid.
2 Nearly 99 percent of the population do not want to wear masks.
3 Covid is only stopped by masks.
We apologise for being too slow and not having read it yet but
go on then, anyone is invited to please join the fun and maybe even save us some of the work.
SCIENCE said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud
Funding to funnel cash into Big Business: $550M in one single state.
ahahahahahahaha
Funding to mitigate the negative health consequences across all of Australia: $50M.
Fuck Yeah¡
Let It Rip®¡
COVID parliamentary inquiry hands down report.
1 Masks stop Covid.
2 Nearly 99 percent of the population do not want to wear masks.
3 Covid is only stopped by masks.
We apologise for being too slow and not having read it yet but
go on then, anyone is invited to please join the fun and maybe even save us some of the work.
Also, as per your point, it’s fucked.
Masks mentioned 5 times. Respirators, or P2, or N95, mentioned 0 times.
Infection Is Good For You¡
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37086744/
If By “You” We Mean Someone Who Profits From Selling Drugs¡
Respiratory syncytial virus infection during infancy and asthma during childhood in the USA (INSPIRE): a population-based, prospective birth cohort study
Interpretation: Among healthy children born at term, not being infected with RSV in the first year of life was associated with a substantially reduced risk of developing childhood asthma. Our findings show an age-dependent association between RSV infection during infancy and childhood asthma. However, to definitively establish causality, the effect of interventions that prevent, delay, or decrease the severity of the initial RSV infection on childhood asthma will need to be studied.
Wait did we miss something¿
the effect of interventions that prevent, delay, or decrease the severity of the initial RSV infection on childhood asthma will need to be studied
ahahahahahahahafuckinghahahahahahaha
Good luck getting any of that¡
Sorry, we’re not immunologists but we can visit webpages, and
https://www.msdmanuals.com/professional/hematology-and-oncology/leukopenias/lymphocytopenia
here it says
Acquired lymphocytopenia can occur with a number of other disorders (see table Causes of Lymphocytopenia ).The most common causes include
- Protein-energy undernutrition
- HIV infection
- COVID-19
- Certain other viral infections
Protein-energy undernutrition is the most common cause worldwide.
but we’re just wondering, can someone tell us if this is a good or a bad thing¿
Groundbreaking … News …
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/public-servants-more-productive-working-at-home-20201013-p564pi


So what’s the conservation law that arises from this beautiful time invariance symmetry¿
(No, no, don’t tell us, we know it already, it’s “the minimum remuneration rate is a constant nominal (unadjusted) value even while inflation”. It’s obvious¡)

SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
COVID parliamentary inquiry hands down report.
1 Masks stop Covid.
2 Nearly 99 percent of the population do not want to wear masks.
3 Covid is only stopped by masks.
We apologise for being too slow and not having read it yet but
go on then, anyone is invited to please join the fun and maybe even save us some of the work.
Also, as per your point, it’s fucked.
Masks mentioned 5 times. Respirators, or P2, or N95, mentioned 0 times.
reading that latter, I thinks the reality was some decided a good covid fire at home (domestically) would save all sorts of inconvenience on travel, interstate and globally, you know you can’t really start a big fire where there is one already roaring, or lots of them burning, you wouldn’t notice it
this way of dealing with infections, unknown infection/s (and the desire not to know) is exampled in simple trips to the supermarket
if you go to a supermarket unmasked you advertise your acceptance of variable unknown risk, of inhaling covid, possibly getting sick and passing it on to your nearest, at the same time you enjoy diminished responsibility for giving it to others, it’s a deceptive way of diminishing responsibility, that lends to shared deception
it’s really that simple, apply it to various scales across State and international boundaries, globally, same applies
and of course responsibility can readily be further diluted by slippery appeals to larger scales, even completely diluted I might suggest, a state of abandon, not unlike being very intoxicated
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
We apologise for being too slow and not having read it yet but
go on then, anyone is invited to please join the fun and maybe even save us some of the work.
Also, as per your point, it’s fucked.
Masks mentioned 5 times. Respirators, or P2, or N95, mentioned 0 times.
reading that latter, I thinks the reality was some decided a good covid fire at home (domestically) would save all sorts of inconvenience on travel, interstate and globally, you know you can’t really start a big fire where there is one already roaring, or lots of them burning, you wouldn’t notice it
this way of dealing with infections, unknown infection/s (and the desire not to know) is exampled in simple trips to the supermarket
if you go to a supermarket unmasked you advertise your acceptance of variable unknown risk, of inhaling covid, possibly getting sick and passing it on to your nearest, at the same time you enjoy diminished responsibility for giving it to others, it’s a deceptive way of diminishing responsibility, that lends to shared deception
it’s really that simple, apply it to various scales across State and international boundaries, globally, same applies
and of course responsibility can readily be further diluted by slippery appeals to larger scales, even completely diluted I might suggest, a state of abandon, not unlike being very intoxicated
Sorry, we picked the wrong page.
Deliberately vague: masks mentioned 0 times, air purifiers mentioned 0 times.
You’d think that’s all right, they’re just painting broad strokes.
Sure, that explains why they mention vaccination specifically 10000 times then.
SCIENCE said:
Actually FUCK, totally.
While most Canadians – 82 per cent – still say vaccines are important during childhood, that number has dropped 8.2 percentage points since before the onset of COVID-19, the Unicef report found.
⚠ actually FUCK, totally
LOL
What’s absolutely fucking next level here is that
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202304/1289654.shtml
they had almost 3 years of protection to get their shit right, and
Discussion of re-infection with COVID-19 has become trendy on Chinese social media after a bunch of users posted positive antigen results for the coronavirus. Epidemiologists whisked off concerns of a second wave coming, and they said that most people infected with COVID-19 now are those who did not contract the virus before.
they could have learned from the rest of the world that has gone through this like 5 times already
Recently, some netizens posted pictures of their positive antigen tests on Chinese social media, claiming they were “re-infected” with COVID-19.
but instead they’ve simply committed to repeating the same bullshit propaganda
Zhang noted that if the coronavirus mutates, some people will be re-infected after six months. But the scale will not be huge. However, if the mutation manages to break the immune barrier formed during the previous wave, an infection peak will come. Wang said it’s likely that infections will climb during the May Day holidays. Yet the majority of people in China are vaccinated, and many have already been infected, which means high-level immunity among the public.
as the arseholes of the rest of the world.
SCIENCE said:
What’s absolutely fucking next level here is that
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202304/1289654.shtml
they had almost 3 years of protection to get their shit right, and
Discussion of re-infection with COVID-19 has become trendy on Chinese social media after a bunch of users posted positive antigen results for the coronavirus. Epidemiologists whisked off concerns of a second wave coming, and they said that most people infected with COVID-19 now are those who did not contract the virus before.
they could have learned from the rest of the world that has gone through this like 5 times already
Recently, some netizens posted pictures of their positive antigen tests on Chinese social media, claiming they were “re-infected” with COVID-19.
but instead they’ve simply committed to repeating the same bullshit propaganda
Zhang noted that if the coronavirus mutates, some people will be re-infected after six months. But the scale will not be huge. However, if the mutation manages to break the immune barrier formed during the previous wave, an infection peak will come. Wang said it’s likely that infections will climb during the May Day holidays. Yet the majority of people in China are vaccinated, and many have already been infected, which means high-level immunity among the public.
as the arseholes of the rest of the world.
Wonder why the still call it ‘waves’ instead of endemic.
Morning punters and correctors.
It’s a lovely day in The Pearl, it’s cool enough to have a jumper on but I’ll probably shed that by mid morning.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors.
It’s a lovely day in The Pearl, it’s cool enough to have a jumper on but I’ll probably shed that by mid morning.
Does long-covid cause posting in the wrong thread?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors.
It’s a lovely day in The Pearl, it’s cool enough to have a jumper on but I’ll probably shed that by mid morning.
Does long-covid cause posting in the wrong thread?
Yes.
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:
What’s absolutely fucking next level here is that
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202304/1289654.shtml
they had almost 3 years of protection to get their shit right, and
Discussion of re-infection with COVID-19 has become trendy on Chinese social media after a bunch of users posted positive antigen results for the coronavirus. Epidemiologists whisked off concerns of a second wave coming, and they said that most people infected with COVID-19 now are those who did not contract the virus before.
they could have learned from the rest of the world that has gone through this like 5 times already
Recently, some netizens posted pictures of their positive antigen tests on Chinese social media, claiming they were “re-infected” with COVID-19.
but instead they’ve simply committed to repeating the same bullshit propaganda
Zhang noted that if the coronavirus mutates, some people will be re-infected after six months. But the scale will not be huge. However, if the mutation manages to break the immune barrier formed during the previous wave, an infection peak will come. Wang said it’s likely that infections will climb during the May Day holidays. Yet the majority of people in China are vaccinated, and many have already been infected, which means high-level immunity among the public.
as the arseholes of the rest of the world.
Wonder why the still call it ‘waves’ instead of endemic.
Uh, possibly the same reason surfers talk about few-metre-high-waves when we’ve known for a long time that the ocean is like 10 km deep¿
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.28745
During the 1-year follow-up period, patients with COVID-19 had a higher risk of HZ compared with those without COVID-19 (HR: 1.59; 95% CI: 1.49–1.69). In addition, compared with the control group patients, those with COVID-19 had a higher risk of HZ ophthalmicus (HR: 1.31; 95% CI: 1.01–1.71), disseminated zoster (HR: 2.80; 95% CI: 1.37–5.74), zoster with other complications (HR: 1.46; 95% CI: 1.18–1.79), and zoster without complications (HR: 1.66; 95% CI: 1.55–1.77). Kaplan–Meier curve analysis (log-rank p < 0.05) results indicated that the risk of HZ remained significantly higher in patients with COVID-19 compared with those without COVID-19.
SCIENCE said:
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:
What’s absolutely fucking next level here is that
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202304/1289654.shtml
they had almost 3 years of protection to get their shit right, and
Discussion of re-infection with COVID-19 has become trendy on Chinese social media after a bunch of users posted positive antigen results for the coronavirus. Epidemiologists whisked off concerns of a second wave coming, and they said that most people infected with COVID-19 now are those who did not contract the virus before.
they could have learned from the rest of the world that has gone through this like 5 times already
Recently, some netizens posted pictures of their positive antigen tests on Chinese social media, claiming they were “re-infected” with COVID-19.
but instead they’ve simply committed to repeating the same bullshit propaganda
Zhang noted that if the coronavirus mutates, some people will be re-infected after six months. But the scale will not be huge. However, if the mutation manages to break the immune barrier formed during the previous wave, an infection peak will come. Wang said it’s likely that infections will climb during the May Day holidays. Yet the majority of people in China are vaccinated, and many have already been infected, which means high-level immunity among the public.
as the arseholes of the rest of the world.
Wonder why the still call it ‘waves’ instead of endemic.
Uh, possibly the same reason surfers talk about few-metre-high-waves when we’ve known for a long time that the ocean is like 10 km deep¿
I think the dirty secret, regard disease status classification of covid, is in, or buried in, the reality that since around 2010 air travel so exploded, that containment of highly contagious respiratory pathogens became nearly impossible
put simply, easy global travel and such containment are in conflict, and as it went easy travel wins
financial systems globally are on the perilous edge of collapse also, another dirty secret
anyway, evidently people will tolerate mass death and injury, to make it work
who hasn’t got debt, and doesn’t want to travel
Diabetes triggered by COVID-19…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-25/long-covid-report-sparks-push-for-research-into-linked-illnesses/102262582
Michael V said:
Diabetes triggered by COVID-19…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-25/long-covid-report-sparks-push-for-research-into-linked-illnesses/102262582
nicely wordsmithed to if not invite then accommodate more data, which inevitably means more infections, tolerance of, sand in your eyes to that end i’d say
you, not you personally, but the generic you-anyone might forget how much people naturally avoid unnecessary infection, and a neat distraction from the mass injury it may serve to be if inclined otherwise, undermining native aversion to injury I mean
if you listen to Captain Gerrard of the starship Covid Inevitability, he’s out there patrolling the neutral zone, looking to neutralize irrational aversion to covid, the flipside of that i’m guessing is rational attraction, or maybe a casual tolerance amounting to similar, but you’d best ask him, I can’t know how his brain works, it’s a mystery, not without convincing or unconvincing symptoms of thought, depending how generous one might feel

transition said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
2023-04-13
2023-04-18
Diabetes triggered by COVID-19…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-25/long-covid-report-sparks-push-for-research-into-linked-illnesses/102262582
nicely wordsmithed to if not invite then accommodate more data, which inevitably means more infections, tolerance of, sand in your eyes to that end i’d say
you, not you personally, but the generic you-anyone might forget how much people naturally avoid unnecessary infection, and a neat distraction from the mass injury it may serve to be if inclined otherwise, undermining native aversion to injury I mean
if you listen to Captain Gerrard of the starship Covid Inevitability, he’s out there patrolling the neutral zone, looking to neutralize irrational aversion to covid, the flipside of that i’m guessing is rational attraction, or maybe a casual tolerance amounting to similar, but you’d best ask him, I can’t know how his brain works, it’s a mystery, not without convincing or unconvincing symptoms of thought, depending how generous one might feel
Yeah we’re all fucked but remember to buy shares in Eli Lilly, Sanofi, Novo Nordisk¡
SCIENCE said:
Buy Buy Buy¡
LOL
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Actually FUCK, totally.
While most Canadians – 82 per cent – still say vaccines are important during childhood, that number has dropped 8.2 percentage points since before the onset of COVID-19, the Unicef report found.
⚠ actually FUCK, totally
while I reads that, crosseyes derr I just wants a little bit of clarificationcationcationclarity
‘….vaccine-preventable illness….’
is covid that^
Well hey let’s set aside our differences for a moment and consider our points of agreement, at the peak of efficacy we’re willing to give it a say 0.67 fractional reduction in transmission, as in your risk at the early time of 2 dosed mRNA (Pfizer Comirnaty WTFever) might have been down to 1/3, but
- absolutely we agree with your implication, that the level of actual prevention from vaccines is currently about 0.1 (so a person otherwise with 100% risk of infection is 90% likely to get fucked)
- absolutely we agree with your previous and ongoing concerns that the hard sell of vaccines was designed to trade off other preventative measures, and was technically and ethically wrong
noting of course that CHINA and other places are still working their arses off to come up with something better, perhaps an inhaled, mucosally sterilising vaccine but it hasn’t been demonstrably successful yet.
Sorry, let us revise our answer.
…
No.
…
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625v5
Among 51017 working-aged Cleveland Clinic employees, the bivalent COVID-19 vaccine was 29% effective in preventing infection while the BA.4/5 lineages were dominant, and 20% effective while the BQ lineages were. Effectiveness was not demonstrated when the XBB lineages were dominant.
Shit working well, getting the funds and not preventing stupidity.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Buy Buy Buy¡
LOL
for all I know that above could be a dissembled inverted boast, lip service concern about mass injury and death, tell me no-one is pleased it got this far, managed to be pleased, adapted, evolved
ideal for normalizing covid being as mobile as people are, and people being as mobile as money, and loyalties being as mobile as money
and to make it all good you probably need news to be as mobile as money, and news between advertisements helps, to the extent anyone can discern the difference anymore, or might be encouraged to
model replicator really is covid, hijacker, highly contagious, indifferent, gets around invisibly, can visit without you even knowing, takes no responsibility for anything, can turn vandal
no surprise really it might find a happy home in many humans
Hey guess what, ever heard of
Three, knowing you have flu or COVID means you can take steps to protect others. This could mean working at home, avoiding contact with vulnerable people, and wearing a mask in company.
prevention¿ Like sure, you can now get a partially accurate test for multiple viruses, but imagine
if there were something even better, millions of viruses better, like something that is almost completely effective in preventing multiple viruses¡
Remember, this was the only fucking time the article mentions
Three, knowing you have flu or COVID means you can take steps to protect others. This could mean working at home, avoiding contact with vulnerable people, and wearing a mask in company.
masks, but you don’t have to be stupid like them, you can actually start wearing a mask even before, as in without (¡) knowing you have ‘flu’ or COVID-19 ¡
SCIENCE said:
Hey guess what, ever heard of
Three, knowing you have flu or COVID means you can take steps to protect others. This could mean working at home, avoiding contact with vulnerable people, and wearing a mask in company.
prevention¿ Like sure, you can now get a partially accurate test for multiple viruses, but imagine
if there were something even better, millions of viruses better, like something that is almost completely effective in preventing multiple viruses¡
Remember, this was the only fucking time the article mentions
Three, knowing you have flu or COVID means you can take steps to protect others. This could mean working at home, avoiding contact with vulnerable people, and wearing a mask in company.
masks, but you don’t have to be stupid like them, you can actually start wearing a mask even before, as in without (¡) knowing you have ‘flu’ or COVID-19 ¡
Michael Jackson started wearing a mask and didn’t it cause a stir.
SCIENCE said:
Hey guess what, ever heard of
Three, knowing you have flu or COVID means you can take steps to protect others. This could mean working at home, avoiding contact with vulnerable people, and wearing a mask in company.
prevention¿ Like sure, you can now get a partially accurate test for multiple viruses, but imagine
if there were something even better, millions of viruses better, like something that is almost completely effective in preventing multiple viruses¡
Remember, this was the only fucking time the article mentions
Three, knowing you have flu or COVID means you can take steps to protect others. This could mean working at home, avoiding contact with vulnerable people, and wearing a mask in company.
masks, but you don’t have to be stupid like them, you can actually start wearing a mask even before, as in without (¡) knowing you have ‘flu’ or COVID-19 ¡
fairly much all writ in what i’d call standard speak, formatted for mixed source news feeds
it has a very safe correctness end to end
this one similarly
https://theconversation.com/people-with-long-covid-continue-to-experience-medical-gaslighting-more-than-3-years-into-the-pandemic-203744
additionally, though, to me it reads like an instruction manual for gaslighting
you might forget the program of or toward endemic covid was not the work of conventional medicine, not doctors
my definition of gaslighting is sand in your eyes, as a starting point for considering the idea, to give it a simple physical analogy
it works best when just the act of beginning thinking about (questioning) the offered distractions is the equivalent of rubbing sand in your own eyes, causes dissonance
Good News Keeps Transpiring Like Weed


Remember when everyone used to laugh at CHINA for their dirty air and how everyone would wear masks outside because of it¿
Well, what the

fuck, and what’s even funnier now is how everyone else could but won’t wear masks to stop this either.
LOL
Well … shit.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/24/florida-surgeon-general-covid-vaccine-00093510
SCIENCE said:
Well … shit.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/24/florida-surgeon-general-covid-vaccine-00093510
“He took out stuff that didn’t support his position,” Salmon said. “That’s really a problem.”
Ladapo’s edits also shed new light on an anonymous internal complaint he faced last year. The complaint, which the Florida Department of Health’s inspector general investigated, accused Ladapo of “scientific fraud” for allegedly manipulating the final draft of the study.
Yeah, he is in a bit of shit.
SCIENCE said:
Remember when everyone used to laugh at CHINA for their dirty air and how everyone would wear masks outside because of it¿
Well, what the
fuck, and what’s even funnier now is how everyone else could but won’t wear masks to stop this either.
LOL
“ Reducing the sources of air pollution – including road traffic, coal and solid fuel burning, and industrial emissions, is key – but action should also be taken to reduce the specific risks to children, according to the EEA.”
Good thing Germany fast tracked the closure of their coalburners wait
SCIENCE said:
Remember when everyone used to laugh at CHINA for their dirty air and how everyone would wear masks outside because of it¿
Well, what the
fuck, and what’s even funnier now is how everyone else could but won’t wear masks to stop this either.
LOL
People cover 90 percent of their bodies with clothing and yet cannot wear masks.
dv said:
SCIENCE said:Remember when everyone used to laugh at CHINA for their dirty air and how everyone would wear masks outside because of it¿
Well, what the
fuck, and what’s even funnier now is how everyone else could but won’t wear masks to stop this either.
LOL
“ Reducing the sources of air pollution – including road traffic, coal and solid fuel burning, and industrial emissions, is key – but action should also be taken to reduce the specific risks to children, according to the EEA.”
Good thing Germany fast tracked the closure of their coalburners wait
you can reduce the specific risks to children by reducing the number of children…
Arts said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
Remember when everyone used to laugh at CHINA for their dirty air and how everyone would wear masks outside because of it¿
Well, what the
fuck, and what’s even funnier now is how everyone else could but won’t wear masks to stop this either.
LOL
“ Reducing the sources of air pollution – including road traffic, coal and solid fuel burning, and industrial emissions, is key – but action should also be taken to reduce the specific risks to children, according to the EEA.”
Good thing Germany fast tracked the closure of their coalburners wait
you can reduce the specific risks to children by reducing the number of children…
Uh except “specific” denotes intensive quantities, so you can’t…

Well, you know, as people get older, the people they know get older too, and more of them die, right¿

Oh yous all will remember how the lockdowns and other protective measures that didn’t actually happen elsewhere in the world killed more people than they saved.
Oh shit they killed -1.5k children¡
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.04.18.23288763v1
The usual expected surge in winter medical deaths, particularly among children ages >1 year was absent. However, smaller increases in external (“non-natural causes”) mortality were also observed during the study period, which decreased the overall number of pediatric deaths averted during both years and the pandemic period. In total, 1,468 fewer all-cause pediatric deaths than expected occurred in the United States during the first 24 months of the COVID-19 pandemic.
SCIENCE said:
No Sarcasm Here
https://twitter.com/MackayIM/status/1650737315785084929
So let us get this straight, Remote Learning™ is bad for students and shouldn’t be used to prevent teachers (and students) from getting so sick they can’t go to school.

A desktop charger with enough voltage to replenish the electric charge on N95 and surgical masks
The researchers have developed a compact system that can restore N95 respirators and surgical masks that have been exposed to moisture to 97% efficiency. By using a special circuit and a conductive plate, a large and uniform voltage distribution recharges the mask in about one minute. This machine can help address the need for high-performance masks while reducing plastic medical waste.
more…
This is fucking good news for all of yous, seeing as the average age of Forum is like 90 years, the title is
so no need to worry¡
Alteration in some of the tasks was observed in 85% of the participants, being the attention and executive functions tests the ones that show the highest percentage of patients with severe impairment. Positive correlations were observed between the age of the participants in almost all the tasks assessed, implying better performance and milder impairment with increasing age. In the comparisons of patients according to age, the oldest patients were found to maintain their cognitive functions relatively preserved, with only a mild impairment in attention and speed processing, while the youngest showed the most marked and heterogeneous cognitive impairment.
Excellent news¡
SCIENCE said:
This is fucking good news for all of yous, seeing as the average age of Forum is like 90 years, the title is
Cognitive impairment in young adults with post COVID-19 syndrome
so no need to worry¡
Alteration in some of the tasks was observed in 85% of the participants, being the attention and executive functions tests the ones that show the highest percentage of patients with severe impairment. Positive correlations were observed between the age of the participants in almost all the tasks assessed, implying better performance and milder impairment with increasing age. In the comparisons of patients according to age, the oldest patients were found to maintain their cognitive functions relatively preserved, with only a mild impairment in attention and speed processing, while the youngest showed the most marked and heterogeneous cognitive impairment.
Excellent news¡
Also, no mad cows here¡
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13760-022-02023-x
We report the case of a 70-year-old man coming to our attention for new onset refractory status epilepticus (NORSE) in a rapidly evolving CJD during SARS-CoV-2 co-infection. Our case report describes a fulminant CJD evolution associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection, which led to patient death after 15 days from admission. First EEG presented continuous diffuse spikes, sharp waves and sharp-and-slow wave complexes, pattern consistent with a non-convulsive status epilepticus (NORSE). Our case supports how CJD with SARS-CoV-2 co-infection could be characterized by an accelerated evolution, as already hypothesize for others microorganism infections, and how the diagnosis might be more challenging due to its uncommon presentations, such as NORSE.
Not sure they got the abbreviations quite correct though, that’s probably longcovid too.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
This is fucking good news for all of yous, seeing as the average age of Forum is like 90 years, the title is
Cognitive impairment in young adults with post COVID-19 syndrome
so no need to worry¡
Alteration in some of the tasks was observed in 85% of the participants, being the attention and executive functions tests the ones that show the highest percentage of patients with severe impairment. Positive correlations were observed between the age of the participants in almost all the tasks assessed, implying better performance and milder impairment with increasing age. In the comparisons of patients according to age, the oldest patients were found to maintain their cognitive functions relatively preserved, with only a mild impairment in attention and speed processing, while the youngest showed the most marked and heterogeneous cognitive impairment.
Excellent news¡
Also, no mad cows here¡
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13760-022-02023-x
We report the case of a 70-year-old man coming to our attention for new onset refractory status epilepticus (NORSE) in a rapidly evolving CJD during SARS-CoV-2 co-infection. Our case report describes a fulminant CJD evolution associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection, which led to patient death after 15 days from admission. First EEG presented continuous diffuse spikes, sharp waves and sharp-and-slow wave complexes, pattern consistent with a non-convulsive status epilepticus (NORSE). Our case supports how CJD with SARS-CoV-2 co-infection could be characterized by an accelerated evolution, as already hypothesize for others microorganism infections, and how the diagnosis might be more challenging due to its uncommon presentations, such as NORSE.
Not sure they got the abbreviations quite correct though, that’s probably longcovid too.
Long Covid or natural cognitive decline amongst aging/aged holiday forum members
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
This is fucking good news for all of yous, seeing as the average age of Forum is like 90 years, the title is
Cognitive impairment in young adults with post COVID-19 syndrome
so no need to worry¡
Alteration in some of the tasks was observed in 85% of the participants, being the attention and executive functions tests the ones that show the highest percentage of patients with severe impairment. Positive correlations were observed between the age of the participants in almost all the tasks assessed, implying better performance and milder impairment with increasing age. In the comparisons of patients according to age, the oldest patients were found to maintain their cognitive functions relatively preserved, with only a mild impairment in attention and speed processing, while the youngest showed the most marked and heterogeneous cognitive impairment.
Excellent news¡
Also, no mad cows here¡
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13760-022-02023-x
We report the case of a 70-year-old man coming to our attention for new onset refractory status epilepticus (NORSE) in a rapidly evolving CJD during SARS-CoV-2 co-infection. Our case report describes a fulminant CJD evolution associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection, which led to patient death after 15 days from admission. First EEG presented continuous diffuse spikes, sharp waves and sharp-and-slow wave complexes, pattern consistent with a non-convulsive status epilepticus (NORSE). Our case supports how CJD with SARS-CoV-2 co-infection could be characterized by an accelerated evolution, as already hypothesize for others microorganism infections, and how the diagnosis might be more challenging due to its uncommon presentations, such as NORSE.
Not sure they got the abbreviations quite correct though, that’s probably longcovid too.
Long Covid or natural cognitive decline amongst aging/aged holiday forum members
Someone needs to design a voight kampff test for cognitive decline
SCIENCE said:
This is fucking good news for all of yous, seeing as the average age of Forum is like 90 years, the title is
Cognitive impairment in young adults with post COVID-19 syndrome
so no need to worry¡
Alteration in some of the tasks was observed in 85% of the participants, being the attention and executive functions tests the ones that show the highest percentage of patients with severe impairment. Positive correlations were observed between the age of the participants in almost all the tasks assessed, implying better performance and milder impairment with increasing age. In the comparisons of patients according to age, the oldest patients were found to maintain their cognitive functions relatively preserved, with only a mild impairment in attention and speed processing, while the youngest showed the most marked and heterogeneous cognitive impairment.
Excellent news¡
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-32939-0.pdf?
reading^
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
This is fucking good news for all of yous, seeing as the average age of Forum is like 90 years, the title is
Cognitive impairment in young adults with post COVID-19 syndrome
so no need to worry¡
Alteration in some of the tasks was observed in 85% of the participants, being the attention and executive functions tests the ones that show the highest percentage of patients with severe impairment. Positive correlations were observed between the age of the participants in almost all the tasks assessed, implying better performance and milder impairment with increasing age. In the comparisons of patients according to age, the oldest patients were found to maintain their cognitive functions relatively preserved, with only a mild impairment in attention and speed processing, while the youngest showed the most marked and heterogeneous cognitive impairment.
Excellent news¡
Also, no mad cows here¡
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13760-022-02023-x
We report the case of a 70-year-old man coming to our attention for new onset refractory status epilepticus (NORSE) in a rapidly evolving CJD during SARS-CoV-2 co-infection. Our case report describes a fulminant CJD evolution associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection, which led to patient death after 15 days from admission. First EEG presented continuous diffuse spikes, sharp waves and sharp-and-slow wave complexes, pattern consistent with a non-convulsive status epilepticus (NORSE). Our case supports how CJD with SARS-CoV-2 co-infection could be characterized by an accelerated evolution, as already hypothesize for others microorganism infections, and how the diagnosis might be more challenging due to its uncommon presentations, such as NORSE.
Not sure they got the abbreviations quite correct though, that’s probably longcovid too.
Long Covid or natural cognitive decline amongst aging/aged holiday forum members
Aye.
Cymek said:
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:Also, no mad cows here¡
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13760-022-02023-x
We report the case of a 70-year-old man coming to our attention for new onset refractory status epilepticus (NORSE) in a rapidly evolving CJD during SARS-CoV-2 co-infection. Our case report describes a fulminant CJD evolution associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection, which led to patient death after 15 days from admission. First EEG presented continuous diffuse spikes, sharp waves and sharp-and-slow wave complexes, pattern consistent with a non-convulsive status epilepticus (NORSE). Our case supports how CJD with SARS-CoV-2 co-infection could be characterized by an accelerated evolution, as already hypothesize for others microorganism infections, and how the diagnosis might be more challenging due to its uncommon presentations, such as NORSE.
Not sure they got the abbreviations quite correct though, that’s probably longcovid too.
Long Covid or natural cognitive decline amongst aging/aged holiday forum members
Someone needs to design a voight kampff test for cognitive decline
Yep.
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
This is fucking good news for all of yous, seeing as the average age of Forum is like 90 years, the title is
Cognitive impairment in young adults with post COVID-19 syndrome
so no need to worry¡
Alteration in some of the tasks was observed in 85% of the participants, being the attention and executive functions tests the ones that show the highest percentage of patients with severe impairment. Positive correlations were observed between the age of the participants in almost all the tasks assessed, implying better performance and milder impairment with increasing age. In the comparisons of patients according to age, the oldest patients were found to maintain their cognitive functions relatively preserved, with only a mild impairment in attention and speed processing, while the youngest showed the most marked and heterogeneous cognitive impairment.
Excellent news¡
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-32939-0.pdf??
reading^
Fuck sorry we blame the longavoidingcovid, we intended to link into it.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-32939-0
Landing page non-PDF link.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-27/burnet-institute-responds-medical-journal-mask-study-concerns/102272054
Burnet Institute defends COVID mask mandate study after scientific journal’s Expression of Concern
SCIENCE said:
LOL nice axis trick, again.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01371-9
Fatten That Curve ¡
Not sure how you catch increments of 0.5 infections but we’ll avoid it all thanks.

https://twitter.com/tylerblack32/status/1651269695339888640



Note they claim they’re in Vancouver which we’re pretty sure is in America but hey guess those Canadialanders really can be pretty touchy about being lumped in with their inbred fascist neighbours.
Holy fuck, “Published:March 03, 2020”, damn.
https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30097-9/fulltext
Cases of a novel type of contagious pneumonia were first reported in December 2019 in Wuhan, China. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Chinese health authorities have determined that a novel coronavirus (CoV), denoted as 2019-nCoV (SARS-CoV-2), is the cause of this pneumonia outbreak (COVID-19) ,]. Existing evidence has confirmed the human-to-human transmission of 2019-nCoV ].
We retrospectively collected infection data from 2 to 22 January 2020 at six departments (Respiratory, Intensive Care Unit (ICU), Infectious Disease, Hepatobiliary Pancreatic Surgery, Trauma and Microsurgery and Urology) from Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University. Medical staff (doctors and nurses) followed differential routines of occupational protection: (1) staff at the Departments of Respiratory Medicine, ICU, and Infectious Disease (mainly quarantined area) wore N95 respirators, and disinfected and cleaned their hands frequently (the N95 group); (2) medical staff in the other three departments wore no medical masks, and disinfected and cleaned their hands only occasionally (the no-mask group). The difference was because the latter departments were not considered to be high risk in the early days of the outbreak. Patient exposure was significantly higher for the N95 group compared with the no-mask group (for confirmed patients, difference: 733%; exposure odds ratio: 8.33, Table I).
Among the 493 medical staff, none of the 278 staff (56 doctors and 222 nurses) in the N95 group became infected, but 10 of 213 staff (77 doctors and 136 nurses) from the no-mask group were confirmed as infected (Table I). Regardless of their lower risk of exposure, the 2019-nCoV infection rate for medical staff was significantly increased in the no-mask group compared with the N95 respirator group (difference: 4.65%, (95% confidence interval: 1.75%–infinite); P<2.2e-16) (adjusted odds ratio: 464.82, (95% confidence interval: 97.73–infinite); P<2.2e-16).
Likewise, we analysed the medical staff infection data from Huangmei People’s Hospital (12 confirmed patients) and Qichun People’s Hospital (11 confirmed patients), and observed a similar phenomenon. No medical staff wearing the N95 respirators and following routines of frequent disinfection and hand washing were infected by 2019-nCoV up until 22 January 2020.
Sorry, we draw yousr attention again to some of the important bits, it’s fucking nuts.
Medical staff (doctors and nurses) followed differential routines of occupational protection: (1) staff at the Departments of Respiratory Medicine, ICU, and Infectious Disease (mainly quarantined area) wore N95 respirators, and disinfected and cleaned their hands frequently (the N95 group); (2) medical staff in the other three departments wore no medical masks, and disinfected and cleaned their hands only occasionally (the no-mask group).
Patient exposure was significantly higher for the N95 group compared with the no-mask group (for confirmed patients, difference: 733%; exposure odds ratio: 8.33, Table I).
Among the 493 medical staff, none of the 278 staff (56 doctors and 222 nurses) in the N95 group became infected, but 10 of 213 staff (77 doctors and 136 nurses) from the no-mask group were confirmed as infected (Table I). Regardless of their lower risk of exposure, the 2019-nCoV infection rate for medical staff was significantly increased in the no-mask group compared with the N95 respirator group (difference: 4.65%, (95% confidence interval: 1.75%–infinite); P<2.2e-16) (adjusted odds ratio: 464.82, (95% confidence interval: 97.73–infinite); P<2.2e-16).
No medical staff wearing the N95 respirators and following routines of frequent disinfection and hand washing were infected by 2019-nCoV up until 22 January 2020.
On to a winner* here.

*: of data manipulation
In this article entitled
it says “Columnists”
https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-why-hospitals-should-keep-mandatory-masking
but obviously it means communists¡
Hey this shit is nice¡

So let’s say we take the desires of our overlords at face value, that old decrepits are a drain on society and undeserving of support, that we don’t want to pay all those pensions and cost The Economy Must Grow, so they need to be reaped, the earlier the better.
All good so far, except we want to make SARACAIDS-CoV a less virulent pathogen that causes milder disease, so we’ve watched the fatality rate go from 5% (initial surprise) to 1% (no treatments or vaccines) to 0.1% (vaccinated and potentially with treatments and more general experience).
Let’s even assume that this 0.1% death is concentrated in the old farts and that every single last Homo catches it, so they can roll the dice.
Don’t know about youspeeps but seems to us that disabling 0.1 of the population to kill off 0.1% of it that is undeserving freeloading bludgers, is a really bad deal. But hey if you can point out the flaw in our reasoning here we’re ready to be shifted.
So if some disease could fuck your immune system, and make you less immune to things you previously were immune to…
what might happen¿
SCIENCE said:
On to a winner* here.
*: of data manipulation
what would be more interesting is projected real infections, + projected real injuries, i’m sure the modellers could do that
but don’t let the likely reality cause irrational people to become hysterical about a plague that’s maiming and killing not a few hundreds of millions, add the excess deaths with, again, an ‘interesting’ cause, that few would like to discern given all are encouraged to be complicit in the human moral evolution cough
fortunately the worldists have something like a 77th brigade to help you understand, to ‘stabilize’ the troubles
roughbarked said:
Well that’s bullshit isn’t it, if they were concerned about the impacts of slight increases in CO2 they should have prevented climate vandalism long ago shouldn’t they¿
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
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Well that’s bullshit isn’t it, if they were concerned about the impacts of slight increases in CO2 they should have prevented climate vandalism long ago shouldn’t they¿
Well, yeah.


We mean fair’s fair, they do have
https://www.safetyandquality.gov.au/faqs-community-use-face-masks
pages that don’t seem to mention P2 or equivalent at all, but we’re open to correction.


SCIENCE said:
maybe the situation is that given what needs covering up, the responsibility and liability dilution involved, you might expect a strong tendency and overwhelming force to eliminate ‘unnaturally’ low covid infection prevalence where it challenges relaxation to endemic status
that is in fact what is happening, been done and continues to happen, is my view
you’re meant to forget, if you ever became aware at all, or preferably it’s never meant to occur to you, that there is no precedent for what has been done, that being the advocacy for herd immunity through common infection, involving a pathogen with a nasty disease profile, the injury risk and actual rate of injury are obscene, and multiplies with recurrent infection
the vaccines don’t appear to be squeaky clean in the excess death statistics it seems, worth considering the possibility that governments and the industrial witch doctors perhaps have an agreement involving diminished responsibility(liability), parading as shared responsibility, though the truth of it is more in the enthusiasm to share it out to everyone, and the former are conveniently less responsible, is my view, my opinion
and the end game to covid endemicity, acceptance of, largely unconscious acceptance of, is that the truth be lost in the prevalence of covid infection noise, including and perhaps especially the injuries caused, as it goes the injuries aren’t without some utility
SCIENCE said:
I can understand the father’s anger, but I really don’t know what an appropriate sentence would be.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
I can understand the father’s anger, but I really don’t know what an appropriate sentence would be.
Ah but what if you stopped it
I can understand the father’s anger.
right there, that seems appropriate to us.
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
I can understand the father’s anger, but I really don’t know what an appropriate sentence would be.
Ah but what if you stopped it
I can understand the father’s anger.
right there, that seems appropriate to us.
can be an unforgiving business that .5M x (V^2), particularly latter part, representative exponentiation
perhaps speedometers should indicate KE also, or might everyone be inclined to drive too slow, get a bicycle, or walk, perhaps even stay in bed
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/health/2023/04/29/the-governments-take-long-covid#mtr
just reads that^
funny business the work of the ideological apparatus, doesn’t at all involve blinding notions, sand in your eyes, and patronize stereotypes, simple conceptual categories, no effort involved across them for citizen joe, no threat
how much effort is it to go to the idea of viral insult, you know they hijack the workings of cells, immune system has to work out what to do, my great great grandma might have had a better idea of infection causing injury, reducing health and fitness, back in the day when plenty with serious infection ended up in cemeteries and family had to dig the holes, before the age of the industrial witch doctors
you might speculate there are a lot of endothelial cells in the human body, possibly a starting point to considering the ‘mystery’ cough, make something up anyway, why not given darwinian arseholes are letting mass injury occur and projecting naive innocence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endothelium
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epithelium
probably a hint of the troubles in that business of covid wiping out peoples’ sense of smell
LOL

SCIENCE said:
LOL
Looks like they will soon be able to go to Poland for better dosh
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Don’t change a thing UK, we need to poach all your trained medical staff with promises of better pay and better weather.
Population is on trend to reach 8.045 million at midyear. The UN global population data for previous years (midyear):
2023 8,045,311,447 0.8803%
2022 7,975,105,156 0.8321%
2021 7,909,295,151 0.8716%
2020 7,840,952,880 0.9788%
2019 7,764,951,032 1.0563%
2018 7,683,789,828 1.1048%
2017 7,599,822,404 1.1492%
So how much did Covid take global population “off-trend”? I suppose it depends on what assumptions you make. If we assume that the annual % increase would have continued to decline by ~ 0.045% p.a. then we end with a 2023 estimate of 8.06227 billion. If I just fit a simple quadratic to the last three pre-Covid numbers, I get 8.06153.
These correspond to differences from the observed data of about 17 million and 16 million respectively. This would be at the low end of Our World In Data’s estimate of excess deaths due to Covid, which spans a range from 17 million to 30 million with a “central value” of 22 million.
This compares with the official total of 7 million Covid fatalities.
dv said:
Population is on trend to reach 8.045 million at midyear. The UN global population data for previous years (midyear):2023 8,045,311,447 0.8803%
2022 7,975,105,156 0.8321%
2021 7,909,295,151 0.8716%
2020 7,840,952,880 0.9788%
2019 7,764,951,032 1.0563%
2018 7,683,789,828 1.1048%
2017 7,599,822,404 1.1492%So how much did Covid take global population “off-trend”? I suppose it depends on what assumptions you make. If we assume that the annual % increase would have continued to decline by ~ 0.045% p.a. then we end with a 2023 estimate of 8.06227 billion. If I just fit a simple quadratic to the last three pre-Covid numbers, I get 8.06153.
These correspond to differences from the observed data of about 17 million and 16 million respectively. This would be at the low end of Our World In Data’s estimate of excess deaths due to Covid, which spans a range from 17 million to 30 million with a “central value” of 22 million.
This compares with the official total of 7 million Covid fatalities.
what you doing with trend birthrates
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Graph on the left seems to show almost every country converging on UK level.
Graph on the right is a bit surprising, I wonder what the scale is.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:LOL
Graph on the left seems to show almost every country converging on UK level.
Graph on the right is a bit surprising, I wonder what the scale is.
OK, forget the “wonder what the scale is” bit.
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Graph on the left seems to show almost every country converging on UK level.
Graph on the right is a bit surprising, I wonder what the scale is.
Looks at graph again.
OK, forget the “wonder what the scale is” bit.
100…
But we agree, charting style is a big thing typically done poorly.
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Graph on the left seems to show almost every country converging on UK level.
Graph on the right is a bit surprising, I wonder what the scale is.
Looks at graph again.
OK, forget the “wonder what the scale is” bit.
100…
But we agree, charting style is a big thing typically done poorly.
Let’s do away with these chart things then.
So apparently Trump really did MAGA.
Surprised Slovenia wages are so high, and France and Japan so low.
Mexico has been going backwards.

Quick Catch As Much As Possible While We Still Have The Tool¡
https://fortune.com/well/2023/04/29/covid-antiviral-paxlovid-evade-deborah-birx-double-deaths/
COVID will evolve to evade popular antiviral treatment Paxlovid, a critical line of defense for the unvaccinated and those at risk of severe disease and death from the virus—of this, Deborah Birx is certain. “I’ve been really upset that the federal government has not prioritized next-generation vaccines that are more durable, next-generation monoclonals, and long-acting monoclonals,” Birx told Fortune in an interview at the magazine’s Brainstorm Health conference, held earlier this week in Marina del Rey, Calif.
Omicron is mutating to bypass the initial arsenal of weapons developed for use against it. Already, its changes have rendered every universal monoclonal antibody treatment—administered to people at high risk of hospitalization and death—useless. Eventually, it will take down Paxlovid, too, Birx says. She added: “If we lose Paxlovid, we could easily double the number of deaths,” which currently sit at just over 1,000 per week, according to data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
As the U.S. COVID public health emergency (PHE)—slated to end May 11—draws to a close, Birx is concerned that apathy has overtaken common sense. She says she’s more concerned about the lack of progress on vaccines and therapeutics than she is about the government declaring an end to the COVID crisis. “Right now, we’re just accepting that 270,000 Americans died last year,” she said. “Two-hundred and seventy thousand. We’re going to easily lose over 100,000 this year. That, to me, is not success.”
Americans have accepted repeat infections, Birx says—and while such frequent infections have helped blunt spikes in cases, they also bring along with them a “high level of long COVID.”
As for the next pandemic—whether it’s a future evolution of COVID, the bird flu, or something different entirely—Birx says the U.S. is unprepared—and is perhaps even less prepared than it was on the eve of COVID-19. In large part, that’s due to the lack of involvement of private companies in governmental pandemic planning—and a rapid-onset amnesia of lessons learned over the past three years.
SCIENCE said:
Bunch of malingerers.
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-sees-record-sickness-zero-productivity-growth-2022-2023-04-26/
Lazy shits.
Britain saw a record number of working days lost due to short-term sickness last year and zero annual growth in economic output per hour worked in the final quarter of 2022, according to official data released on Wednesday.
British workers took 185.6 million days off work due to sickness or injury in 2022. This was more than during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic itself, when fewer sick days were recorded as millions of workers were on furlough and lockdown restrictions reduced exposure to minor illnesses.
Minor illnesses accounted for 29% of days lost, while respiratory conditions accounted for 8% of days lost – up from 4% in 2019 – and ‘other’ conditions, which include COVID-19, diabetes and a range of others – rose to 24% from 14%.
Fucking bludgers.
Weak business investment, greater trade barriers due to Brexit and deficiencies in employee and management skills are among the reasons economists give for the poor performance.
Wait yes that must be it¡ This is a demand side problem¡
Strange.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/04/28/covid-cases-cdc-conference/
The staff dedicated to investigating disease outbreaks for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention received a reminder this week of the pandemic’s persistence: confirmed covid cases at their own conference. “We’re letting you know that several people who attended the Conference have tested positive for COVID-19,” a CDC branch chief wrote in an email to staff on Friday and obtained by The Washington Post, adding that at least one person at the division’s recruiting event on Wednesday had tested positive.
Better stop there.
SCIENCE said:
Better stop there.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-30/coolangatta-drowning-gold-coast-beach/102284942
Part 3 of The COVID Tracking Project is available. I’ve listened to parts 1 & 2 so far.
Excellent, we’re still happily letting front line workers take infectious diseases heat so
Assistant Commissioner Brian Connors said one of the victims was a nurse at the local hospital who was on her way home from a shift, and the woman critically injured had close links to the local police service.
the more we kill
The husband and father – who married just seven weeks ago – was allegedly stabbed to death while on a break with his colleague outside a McDonald’s restaurant in Sydney’s south-west a fortnight ago.
the better¡
SCIENCE said:
Excellent, we’re still happily letting front line workers take infectious diseases heat so
Assistant Commissioner Brian Connors said one of the victims was a nurse at the local hospital who was on her way home from a shift, and the woman critically injured had close links to the local police service.
the more we kill
The husband and father – who married just seven weeks ago – was allegedly stabbed to death while on a break with his colleague outside a McDonald’s restaurant in Sydney’s south-west a fortnight ago.
the better¡
:(((
transition said:
my reading
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRE11Awon’t pretend to understand it all, or much, but fairly regularly I find a three or four letter word I recognize, sort of patched all the other stuff together, it helps
Viruses cause evolution, damn.
WHO declares covid-19 is no longer a global health emergency
By Adam Taylor and Dan Diamond
Updated May 5, 2023 at 10:52 a.m. EDT|Published May 5, 2023 at 10:00 a.m. EDT
The World Health Organization said Friday that it would no longer classify the coronavirus pandemic as a public health emergency of international concern, after more than three years.
At a news conference in Geneva, WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said he was making the announcement with great hope.
The shift in status “does not mean that covid-19 is over as a global health threat,” Tedros said. “Last week covid-19 claimed a life every three minutes. And that’s just the deaths we know about.”
Although a milestone in the course of the global response to the pandemic, the change may not mean much in practice for many governments that have already lifted their emergency declarations, or will do so soon. The Biden administration is set to end the U.S. public health emergency status for the pandemic on May 11.
The WHO declared the pandemic a public health emergency of international concern on Jan. 30, 2020, and it has remained under that designation, the global health organization’s highest level of alarm, for more than three years. The virus has claimed more than 6.9 million lives, according to the WHO — including more than 1 million in the United States.
Tedros said he made the decision to lift the classification after a recommendation from a team of experts convened by the WHO. In a statement, the WHO said the team had noted the overall decline in covid deaths, covid-related hospitalizations and intensive care unit admissions, and the increasing levels of immunity to the virus.
“I emphasize that this is not a snap decision,” Tedros said. “It is a decision that has been considered carefully for some time, planned for and made on the basis of a careful analysis of the data.”
According to the WHO, there were 630,979 confirmed global coronavirus cases and 3,568 global deaths in the week that ended April 24 — the lowest levels since the early days of the pandemic. But experts have cautioned that global tracking of covid cases and deaths is probably incomplete, citing patchwork reporting systems that have been rolled back and the growing number of people who test for covid at home, if at all, and opt not to report their results.
Biden administration officials said Friday that they had expected the WHO’s decision, which the global heath agency had telegraphed for weeks. The White House’s own coronavirus response team is disbanding this month, and the administration is planning to lift most federal vaccine mandates next week.
Health officials also have announced several initiatives meant to provide longer-term pandemic protections, including a next-generation vaccine program and a program to cover coronavirus vaccines and treatments for the uninsured.
“As the public health emergency is set to end next week, I do want to just reiterate that we at CDC are not changing the steam at which we are working through this emergency,” Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said at a Senate hearing Thursday.
Some of the longer-term efforts announced by the administration are under threat. House Republicans last week passed a bill that would claw back tens of billions of dollars in unspent covid funds, arguing that the pandemic is over and those programs — which include the funding that the White House has earmarked for the next-generation vaccine program — are no longer necessary.
Speaking Friday, Tedros said that covid had left “deep scars on our world” and that it would continue to do so.
The WHO leader said he would be establishing a committee to “develop long-term, standing recommendations” for how countries should manage covid on an ongoing basis.
He also said he would “not hesitate” to convene another group of experts to assess whether covid had become a global health emergency if the virus again puts “our world in peril.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/05/05/who-covid-global-health-emergency/?
Witty Rejoinder said:
WHO declares covid-19 is no longer a global health emergency
By Adam Taylor and Dan Diamond
Updated May 5, 2023 at 10:52 a.m. EDT|Published May 5, 2023 at 10:00 a.m. EDT
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>The virus has claimed more than 6.9 million lives
from page above
i’d expect you can x4+ at least for real numbers, and x50+ that number above for long covid, and the latter continues, both assisted by demasking, and something of or related the former is evident in the excess deaths, few have been inclined to tease out vaccine-induced deaths from the numbers, or would dare
the long-range deaths – shortening of lives -, and injury consequences aren’t a popular subject with those ‘concluding’ the pandemic, in readiness for the next