Date: 26/11/2010 08:37:38
From: Yeehah
ID: 113253
Subject: Words, words, words

pain master said:


the stinkhorn continued to grow despite being dissected in half….

dissected in half?

Just like the chicky-babe on the potted commercial radio news this morning saying that someone had been “deported back” to the USA

wikipedia says:
“Tautology (rhetoric), using different words to say the same thing even if the repetition does not provide clarity.”

So if you know that the listener’s vocabulary is limited, and you think the listener may not understand the meaning of the word you’re using, does that make it a tautology to add “back” to “deported” because you want to “provide clarity”??? Does that mean that the newsreader (or copywriter, who knows?) has a limited vocabulary or do they assume that their listeners are dumb-arses with limited vocabularies?

Or, in Painmaster’s case, it’s not tautologous to say “dissected in half” because someone with limited vocabulary might think that “dissected” means “cut” but not necessarily get that “in half” is the other part of the meaning of “dissected”, so to some people PM is providing clarity but to me he’s just sneaking in another sly wind-up???

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(PS Still love you, PM, and love the wind-ups, intentional or not!)

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Date: 26/11/2010 09:37:43
From: Longy
ID: 113254
Subject: re: Words, words, words

I dunno. I reckon you are going lots over the top far too much and heaps more than was necessary.

Mate of mine had a boss who he said was very smart and clever.
Goodonya.

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Date: 26/11/2010 10:01:10
From: Happy Potter
ID: 113256
Subject: re: Words, words, words

Yeehah said:


pain master said:

the stinkhorn continued to grow despite being dissected in half….

dissected in half?

Just like the chicky-babe on the potted commercial radio news this morning saying that someone had been “deported back” to the USA

wikipedia says:
“Tautology (rhetoric), using different words to say the same thing even if the repetition does not provide clarity.”

So if you know that the listener’s vocabulary is limited, and you think the listener may not understand the meaning of the word you’re using, does that make it a tautology to add “back” to “deported” because you want to “provide clarity”??? Does that mean that the newsreader (or copywriter, who knows?) has a limited vocabulary or do they assume that their listeners are dumb-arses with limited vocabularies?

Or, in Painmaster’s case, it’s not tautologous to say “dissected in half” because someone with limited vocabulary might think that “dissected” means “cut” but not necessarily get that “in half” is the other part of the meaning of “dissected”, so to some people PM is providing clarity but to me he’s just sneaking in another sly wind-up???

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(PS Still love you, PM, and love the wind-ups, intentional or not!)

Hehe words words indeed. I thought that ‘dissected’ meant ‘taken apart or cut apart’ and the ‘in half’ was describing how.

You would have a field day with the comments columns under news articles in the online herald Sun Vic newspaper… aka “ there lives’ and ‘alot’ ect.

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Date: 26/11/2010 10:03:18
From: pepe
ID: 113257
Subject: re: Words, words, words

stupid dumb tautologous language.

we love it tho’ – ah but …?

is bisected in two and dissected something else ??

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Date: 26/11/2010 11:38:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 113259
Subject: re: Words, words, words

pepe said:


stupid dumb tautologous language.

we love it tho’ – ah but …?

is bisected in two and dissected something else ??

dissect v 1: cut open or cut apart; “dissect the bodies for analysis” 2: make a mathematical, chemical, or grammatical analysis of; break down into components or essential features; “analyze a specimen”; “analyze a sentence”; “analyze a chemical compound”

bisect v : cut in half or cut in two; “bisect a line”

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Date: 26/11/2010 13:14:50
From: bon008
ID: 113261
Subject: re: Words, words, words

Longy said:


I dunno. I reckon you are going lots over the top far too much and heaps more than was necessary.

Mate of mine had a boss who he said was very smart and clever.
Goodonya.

LOL :D

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Date: 26/11/2010 13:15:46
From: bon008
ID: 113262
Subject: re: Words, words, words

Happy Potter said:


Yeehah said:

pain master said:

the stinkhorn continued to grow despite being dissected in half….

dissected in half?

Just like the chicky-babe on the potted commercial radio news this morning saying that someone had been “deported back” to the USA

wikipedia says:
“Tautology (rhetoric), using different words to say the same thing even if the repetition does not provide clarity.”

So if you know that the listener’s vocabulary is limited, and you think the listener may not understand the meaning of the word you’re using, does that make it a tautology to add “back” to “deported” because you want to “provide clarity”??? Does that mean that the newsreader (or copywriter, who knows?) has a limited vocabulary or do they assume that their listeners are dumb-arses with limited vocabularies?

Or, in Painmaster’s case, it’s not tautologous to say “dissected in half” because someone with limited vocabulary might think that “dissected” means “cut” but not necessarily get that “in half” is the other part of the meaning of “dissected”, so to some people PM is providing clarity but to me he’s just sneaking in another sly wind-up???

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(PS Still love you, PM, and love the wind-ups, intentional or not!)

Hehe words words indeed. I thought that ‘dissected’ meant ‘taken apart or cut apart’ and the ‘in half’ was describing how.

You would have a field day with the comments columns under news articles in the online herald Sun Vic newspaper… aka “ there lives’ and ‘alot’ ect.

I thought bisect was in half and dissect was just plain old “cut apart”…

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Date: 26/11/2010 13:16:01
From: bon008
ID: 113263
Subject: re: Words, words, words

pepe said:


stupid dumb tautologous language.

we love it tho’ – ah but …?

is bisected in two and dissected something else ??

Beaten to it! :)

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Date: 26/11/2010 13:17:25
From: Yeehah
ID: 113265
Subject: re: Words, words, words

bon008 said:


Happy Potter said:

Hehe words words indeed. I thought that ‘dissected’ meant ‘taken apart or cut apart’ and the ‘in half’ was describing how.

You would have a field day with the comments columns under news articles in the online herald Sun Vic newspaper… aka “ there lives’ and ‘alot’ ect.

I thought bisect was in half and dissect was just plain old “cut apart”…

I’m wrong.

I’m a pompous ….

Taking it on the chin :)

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Date: 26/11/2010 13:19:32
From: AnneS
ID: 113267
Subject: re: Words, words, words

Yeehah said:


bon008 said:

Happy Potter said:

Hehe words words indeed. I thought that ‘dissected’ meant ‘taken apart or cut apart’ and the ‘in half’ was describing how.

You would have a field day with the comments columns under news articles in the online herald Sun Vic newspaper… aka “ there lives’ and ‘alot’ ect.

I thought bisect was in half and dissect was just plain old “cut apart”…

I’m wrong.

I’m a pompous ….

Taking it on the chin :)

but boy didn’t you generate some discussion!!! :)

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Date: 26/11/2010 13:21:49
From: Yeehah
ID: 113268
Subject: re: Words, words, words

AnneS said:


Yeehah said:

I’m wrong.

I’m a pompous ….

Taking it on the chin :)

but boy didn’t you generate some discussion!!! :)

Er … yeah … actually, really I knew all along, I just wanted to stir it up a bit around here ;)

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Date: 26/11/2010 13:24:17
From: AnneS
ID: 113270
Subject: re: Words, words, words

Yeehah said:


AnneS said:

Yeehah said:

I’m wrong.

I’m a pompous ….

Taking it on the chin :)

but boy didn’t you generate some discussion!!! :)

Er … yeah … actually, really I knew all along, I just wanted to stir it up a bit around here ;)

ROFL.

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Date: 26/11/2010 16:58:25
From: Happy Potter
ID: 113279
Subject: re: Words, words, words

Yeehah said:


AnneS said:

Yeehah said:

I’m wrong.

I’m a pompous ….

Taking it on the chin :)

but boy didn’t you generate some discussion!!! :)

Er … yeah … actually, really I knew all along, I just wanted to stir it up a bit around here ;)

Yes of course! lol

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Date: 26/11/2010 17:53:44
From: bubba louie
ID: 113283
Subject: re: Words, words, words

Longy said:


I dunno. I reckon you are going lots over the top far too much and heaps more than was necessary.

Mate of mine had a boss who he said was very smart and clever.
Goodonya.

Sounds reasonable to me. I went to school with a girl who was academically brilliant but no way would I call her clever.
No common sense what so ever.

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Date: 27/11/2010 08:10:15
From: pain master
ID: 113296
Subject: re: Words, words, words

‘tis a good thing I didn’t respond simply to Yeehah’s initial post and a warm thank you to everyone else who engaged in the topic.

Yeehah is correct though, my post was in no way a wind-up, I meant to say dissected in half, because at the time I thought I was correct. I did not think it was a Tautology, all the tautologies that I know are bloody obvious, and I only learned what a tautology was when I moved to Townsville and rode my pushbike over Canal Creek. I do not have the verbosity that others here on this forum are gifted with, I do not, nor care to know what an adverb is and while it may have seemed that I was including “in half” to help clarify my statement, it was for my own appreciation.

But I have learned something today so thank youse all.

now back on the gardening front, GF harvested a sweet potato yesterday the size of a Wombat’s head.

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Date: 27/11/2010 08:30:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 113298
Subject: re: Words, words, words

it ain’t the heaviosity as much as the awkwardacity… mates

oh and I picked my first tomato yesterday along with 11 kg of cherries

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Date: 27/11/2010 10:14:14
From: pepe
ID: 113331
Subject: re: Words, words, words

Yeehah said:


bon008 said:

Happy Potter said:

Hehe words words indeed. I thought that ‘dissected’ meant ‘taken apart or cut apart’ and the ‘in half’ was describing how.

You would have a field day with the comments columns under news articles in the online herald Sun Vic newspaper… aka “ there lives’ and ‘alot’ ect.

I thought bisect was in half and dissect was just plain old “cut apart”…

I’m wrong. I’m a pompous …. Taking it on the chin :)

chuckle – ya can’t be pompous if ya admit ya wrong.

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Date: 28/11/2010 08:49:35
From: pain master
ID: 113444
Subject: re: Words, words, words

why is it the plural for house is not hice?

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Date: 28/11/2010 10:21:15
From: pomolo
ID: 113472
Subject: re: Words, words, words

pain master said:


why is it the plural for house is not hice?

You think too much.

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