China to launch 1st-ever sample return mission to moon’s far side in 2024

China will attempt to collect the first samples from the far side of the moon next year with its Chang’e 6 mission.

The complex, four-spacecraft mission will launch on a Long March 5 rocket from Wenchang in May 2024, according to Wu Yanhua, chief designer of China’s Deep Space Exploration Major Project, speaking at a deep-space exploration conference on April 25 in the Chinese city of Hefei.

Wu said the Chang’e 7 and 8 missions would follow in 2026 and 2028, respectively, according (opens in new tab) to Chinese state media CGTN.

dv said:

China to launch 1st-ever sample return mission to moon’s far side in 2024

China will attempt to collect the first samples from the far side of the moon next year with its Chang’e 6 mission.

The complex, four-spacecraft mission will launch on a Long March 5 rocket from Wenchang in May 2024, according to Wu Yanhua, chief designer of China’s Deep Space Exploration Major Project, speaking at a deep-space exploration conference on April 25 in the Chinese city of Hefei.

Wu said the Chang’e 7 and 8 missions would follow in 2026 and 2028, respectively, according (opens in new tab) to Chinese state media CGTN.

I mean, apart from the lack of luminence, what else should be different?

roughbarked said:

dv said:

China to launch 1st-ever sample return mission to moon’s far side in 2024

China will attempt to collect the first samples from the far side of the moon next year with its Chang’e 6 mission.

The complex, four-spacecraft mission will launch on a Long March 5 rocket from Wenchang in May 2024, according to Wu Yanhua, chief designer of China’s Deep Space Exploration Major Project, speaking at a deep-space exploration conference on April 25 in the Chinese city of Hefei.

Wu said the Chang’e 7 and 8 missions would follow in 2026 and 2028, respectively, according (opens in new tab) to Chinese state media CGTN.

I mean, apart from the lack of luminence, what else should be different?

It gets as much luminence as the near side. Indeed, more, on average, since the Earth’s shadow never dings it.

But to answer your question the far side is quite different. The near side is dominated by maria of basalt: the far side is dominated by small craters.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

China to launch 1st-ever sample return mission to moon’s far side in 2024

China will attempt to collect the first samples from the far side of the moon next year with its Chang’e 6 mission.

The complex, four-spacecraft mission will launch on a Long March 5 rocket from Wenchang in May 2024, according to Wu Yanhua, chief designer of China’s Deep Space Exploration Major Project, speaking at a deep-space exploration conference on April 25 in the Chinese city of Hefei.

Wu said the Chang’e 7 and 8 missions would follow in 2026 and 2028, respectively, according (opens in new tab) to Chinese state media CGTN.

I mean, apart from the lack of luminence, what else should be different?

It gets as much luminence as the near side. Indeed, more, on average, since the Earth’s shadow never dings it.

But to answer your question the far side is quite different. The near side is dominated by maria of basalt: the far side is dominated by small craters.

Everything you can tell me about the moon will be news to me.
I was there watching the men land but apart from we have all seen, I really don’t know any more.

Good.

All the lunar samples so far are free to use for scientific research and held in America, even the Russian samples.

The Russian samples are special because their drill into the Moon succeeded, Apollo didn’t get down as deep.

On the far side we expect breccia, like the lunar highlands of Fra Mauro (Apollo 14). But since breccia rock comes from multiple sources, we ought to expect a lot of unusual stuff in there as well.

Keep in mind that the Moon is quite lopsided, the centre of gravity is nowhere near the centroid of the volume. So things on the far side could be very different.

What are they expecting to find on the Far Side?

Kothos said:

What are they expecting to find on the Far Side?

Spook, he’s probably tunneled his way there.

Peak Warming Man said:

Kothos said:

What are they expecting to find on the Far Side?

Spook, he’s probably tunneled his way there.

Nice comic crossover

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

Good.

A Long March-5 rocket, carrying the Chang’e-6 spacecraft, blasted off from its launchpad at the Wenchang Space Launch Site on the coast of China’s southern island province of Hainan on Friday afternoon. https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/1786332993881309553

In short: China has launched a probe to collect soil and rock samples from the far side of the Moon.
State media broadcast the launch and hailed it a success.
What’s next? The mission is set to take 53 days and aims to collect samples with a geological age of 4 billion years.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-03/china-launches-space-probe-to-collect-samples-from-moon/103803976

Good.

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

I wonder how long until they have satellites in orbit around the Moon, keeping other countries’ landers away by blasting them with water cannons?

It is a point of wonder.

Impressed if they can mine water from the far side of it.

Impossible ¡ This is incomprehensible, nobody

The rapid advance of China’s space program has raised alarm bells in Washington, with the head of NASA warning last month that the United States was now in a “race” against Beijing. “We believe that a lot of their so-called civilian space program is a military program,” NASA administrator Bill Nelson told politicians on Capitol Hill.

who ever raced a space could possibly think there could be military dual uses ¡

SCIENCE said:

Impossible ¡ This is incomprehensible, nobody

The rapid advance of China’s space program has raised alarm bells in Washington, with the head of NASA warning last month that the United States was now in a “race” against Beijing. “We believe that a lot of their so-called civilian space program is a military program,” NASA administrator Bill Nelson told politicians on Capitol Hill.

who ever raced a space could possibly think there could be military dual uses ¡

FKN ASIANS Militarising Space Again ¡

China’s Chang’e-6 lunar lander successfully touched down on the far side of the moon Sunday morning Beijing time, in a significant step for the ambitious mission that could advance the country’s aspirations of putting astronauts on the moon. The Chang’e-6 probe landed in the South Pole-Aitken Basin, where it will begin to collect samples from the lunar surface, the China National Space Administration announced. China’s most complex robotic lunar endeavor to date, the uncrewed mission aims to return samples to Earth from the moon’s far side for the first time.

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Future of the Space Industry

The privatisation of space travel is cutting the cost of rocket launches and powering innovation.

More…

No Hypercapitalist Fangush Here

China lands probe on moon, NASA space launch fails on second attempt

So is privatisation the answer or not ¿

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

No Hypercapitalist Fangush Here

China lands probe on moon, NASA space launch fails on second attempt

So is privatisation the answer or not ¿

Looks that way, more incentives for cost cutting and innovation.

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

China lands probe on moon, NASA space launch fails on second attempt

So is privatisation the answer or not ¿

Looks that way, more incentives for cost cutting and innovation.

Boeing needs a good shake up.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

So is privatisation the answer or not ¿

Looks that way, more incentives for cost cutting and innovation.

Boeing needs a good shake up.

Bold statement if Tau.Neutrino were to meet with some misfortune this week now we’ll know why.

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Looks that way, more incentives for cost cutting and innovation.

Boeing needs a good shake up.

Bold statement if Tau.Neutrino were to meet with some misfortune this week now we’ll know why.

How about Boeing designing valves that don’t leak.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Craft unfurls China’s flag on the far side of the moon and lifts off with lunar rocks to bring home

Faked at Hollywood.

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Craft unfurls China’s flag on the far side of the moon and lifts off with lunar rocks to bring home

Faked at Hollywood.

Bit premature…

another one bites the dust

SCIENCE said:

another one bites the dust

has there been an update?

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

another one bites the dust

has there been an update?

Yes, https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/06/25/china/china-change-6-moon-mission-return-scn-intl-hnk among others. Helicopters covering it in dirt though.

Please excuse the TV screen angle, we didn’t have it on direct screen record.

A search team located the module minutes after its landing, according to CCTV. The livestream showed a worker carrying out checks on the module, which lay on grassland beside a Chinese flag.

For hydrazine apparently, that’d be quite a fun surprise for whoever opens it if there was much left in there.

Good to see Your ABC doing True Balance on stories about return flights and space missions¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-27/nasa-astronauts-delayed-space-station-boeing-starliner/104028622

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-27/julian-assange-on-australian-soil-after-more-than-a-decade/104025296

Oh wait they haven’t mentioned the return space mission flight wonder why that is¿

wow fk obviously we’re not obsessed enough with the dirty communist ASIANS to keep up in good time but damn Your ABC did a good job keeping this one quiet

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-30/china-launch-space-mission-moon-next/104535726

China has launched a new crew to its orbiting space station and has set a target of putting an astronaut on the Moon by 2030. Three astronauts were on board the Shenzhou-19 spaceship when it took off atop a Long March-2F rocket before dawn on Wednesday from the Gobi desert. This mission has laid down a marker of China’s intentions to expand its exploration of outer space with missions to the Moon and beyond. NASA has said it is now in a space race with China, but experts believe China may already be leading in some fields of space exploration.

The fast development of China’s manned and unmanned space program has alarmed other space powers, including the US. Currently, there are only three countries with independent manned space programs: China, Russia and the US. Russia is currently listed as a partner with China’s manned space program. China has claimed that some Western countries have been trying to steal secrets from its space program. “In recent years, some Western countries have formed space combat forces, exercised space action capabilities and even regarded (China) as a major competitor in the space field,” the ministry said.

This is something that NASA has hit back on, with administrator Bill Nelson saying China may be hiding the true intentions of its space program. “China has made extraordinary strides, especially in the last 10 years, but they are very, very secretive,” he said speaking in April. “We believe that a lot of their so-called civilian space program is a military program. We are in a race.” But as Professor de Grijs sees it, this isn’t anything like a race for China. “China’s space program is a chance for the CMSA to demonstrate their technologies and the steps forward that they have taken in space travel,” he said. “They operate in five-year plans and they stick to those plans very carefully, it isn’t a race for China, they aren’t phased by other countries.”

is already training astronauts for a Moon landing. The training will include driving lunar rovers and carrying heavy loads on the Moon, according to the CMSA. China has declared it wants to be a “global space science power” by 2050.

SCIENCE said:

wow fk obviously we’re not obsessed enough with the dirty communist ASIANS to keep up in good time but damn Your ABC did a good job keeping this one quiet

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-30/china-launch-space-mission-moon-next/104535726

China has launched a new crew to its orbiting space station and has set a target of putting an astronaut on the Moon by 2030. Three astronauts were on board the Shenzhou-19 spaceship when it took off atop a Long March-2F rocket before dawn on Wednesday from the Gobi desert. This mission has laid down a marker of China’s intentions to expand its exploration of outer space with missions to the Moon and beyond. NASA has said it is now in a space race with China, but experts believe China may already be leading in some fields of space exploration.

The fast development of China’s manned and unmanned space program has alarmed other space powers, including the US. Currently, there are only three countries with independent manned space programs: China, Russia and the US. Russia is currently listed as a partner with China’s manned space program. China has claimed that some Western countries have been trying to steal secrets from its space program. “In recent years, some Western countries have formed space combat forces, exercised space action capabilities and even regarded (China) as a major competitor in the space field,” the ministry said.

This is something that NASA has hit back on, with administrator Bill Nelson saying China may be hiding the true intentions of its space program. “China has made extraordinary strides, especially in the last 10 years, but they are very, very secretive,” he said speaking in April. “We believe that a lot of their so-called civilian space program is a military program. We are in a race.” But as Professor de Grijs sees it, this isn’t anything like a race for China. “China’s space program is a chance for the CMSA to demonstrate their technologies and the steps forward that they have taken in space travel,” he said. “They operate in five-year plans and they stick to those plans very carefully, it isn’t a race for China, they aren’t phased by other countries.”

is already training astronauts for a Moon landing. The training will include driving lunar rovers and carrying heavy loads on the Moon, according to the CMSA. China has declared it wants to be a “global space science power” by 2050.

I’m alarmed about some aspects of China but not particularly about their manned space program.