Date: 6/05/2023 06:27:14
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2027869
Subject: Living longer = more time dying

Most deaths do not correspond to what we often call a “good” death – when one still has control over their own body and mind, and requires little health or hospice care. This is shown in a new study by Marcus Ebeling, a demographer at the Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research in Rostock, Germany, and his two colleagues at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm. “Our results indicate the hypothesis that rising life expectancy, especially at older ages, is partly due to a prolonged death process,” says Ebeling. Demographers worldwide have been investigating for decades whether increasing life expectancy also brings more years of life in good health or instead longer periods of illness. The present study, published in the American Journal of Public Health, contributes to this ongoing discourse.

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Date: 6/05/2023 07:14:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2027889
Subject: re: Living longer = more time dying

Sounds like some fuckers are trying to justify a shitty public health strategy and perhaps hoping to soften the blow of an imminently transpiring adverse finding about declining life expectancies.

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Date: 6/05/2023 07:19:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2027893
Subject: re: Living longer = more time dying

SCIENCE said:

Kingy said:

Sounds like some fuckers are trying to justify a shitty public health strategy and perhaps hoping to soften the blow of an imminently transpiring adverse finding about declining life expectancies.

Fixed up with an appropriate quote.

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Date: 6/05/2023 07:39:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2027898
Subject: re: Living longer = more time dying

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Kingy said:

I remember a bloke who used to walk into a shop and ask for a packet of ccigarettes and the as the shop assistant went to grab a packet, he’d add, “Give me one that only kills other people”.

I’m sure he thought he was hilarious.

To which the answer is ‘To me, you’re other people. Here, this’ll kill you’.

Sounds like some fuckers are trying to justify a shitty public health strategy and perhaps hoping to soften the blow of an imminently transpiring adverse finding about declining life expectancies.

Fixed up with an appropriate quote.

And more of them.

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Date: 6/05/2023 07:56:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 2027901
Subject: re: Living longer = more time dying

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Sounds like some fuckers are trying to justify a shitty public health strategy and perhaps hoping to soften the blow of an imminently transpiring adverse finding about declining life expectancies.

Fixed up with an appropriate quote.

And more of them.

You do go on.

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Date: 6/05/2023 11:26:15
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2028036
Subject: re: Living longer = more time dying

Divine Angel said:


Most deaths do not correspond to what we often call a “good” death – when one still has control over their own body and mind, and requires little health or hospice care. This is shown in a new study by Marcus Ebeling, a demographer at the Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research in Rostock, Germany, and his two colleagues at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm. “Our results indicate the hypothesis that rising life expectancy, especially at older ages, is partly due to a prolonged death process,” says Ebeling. Demographers worldwide have been investigating for decades whether increasing life expectancy also brings more years of life in good health or instead longer periods of illness. The present study, published in the American Journal of Public Health, contributes to this ongoing discourse.

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Agree. Humans live well past their “use by” date.

They are the only animals to do so.

I’m too young to die a natural death, but even I am concerned about whether my body or my mind is going to give out first. I’m not much use for anything any more.

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Date: 6/05/2023 14:03:39
From: dv
ID: 2028146
Subject: re: Living longer = more time dying

Divine Angel said:


Most deaths do not correspond to what we often call a “good” death – when one still has control over their own body and mind, and requires little health or hospice care. This is shown in a new study by Marcus Ebeling, a demographer at the Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research in Rostock, Germany, and his two colleagues at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm. “Our results indicate the hypothesis that rising life expectancy, especially at older ages, is partly due to a prolonged death process,” says Ebeling. Demographers worldwide have been investigating for decades whether increasing life expectancy also brings more years of life in good health or instead longer periods of illness. The present study, published in the American Journal of Public Health, contributes to this ongoing discourse.

link

As long as I’m conscious, can move a bit and am not in excruciating pain, I’ll be enjoying life. A lot of great things happen during the phase of the life that this paper considers the “dying” phase. My mother “died” slow enough to meet and play with her grandchildren.

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Date: 10/05/2023 06:28:31
From: transition
ID: 2029618
Subject: re: Living longer = more time dying

SCIENCE said:


Sounds like some fuckers are trying to justify a shitty public health strategy and perhaps hoping to soften the blow of an imminently transpiring adverse finding about declining life expectancies.

could be, i’ll read it properly in the daylight hours later, continue my study of casual darwinian arseholery, see if I can find any

https://www.mpg.de/20270779/0504-defo-high-care-needs-during-the-last-year-of-life-are-most-common-154642-x

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Date: 10/05/2023 11:55:49
From: transition
ID: 2029708
Subject: re: Living longer = more time dying

transition said:


SCIENCE said:

Sounds like some fuckers are trying to justify a shitty public health strategy and perhaps hoping to soften the blow of an imminently transpiring adverse finding about declining life expectancies.

could be, i’ll read it properly in the daylight hours later, continue my study of casual darwinian arseholery, see if I can find any

https://www.mpg.de/20270779/0504-defo-high-care-needs-during-the-last-year-of-life-are-most-common-154642-x

and I reads, I do, doesly me

ooh is that negational even pretending to be giving the reader something extra, more

by memory it goes..

‘…and nursing needs are even more common over the age of eighty-three…’

even, even more, even more common

wonder what that really does in a brain, those words, I hope it doesn’t lend to some inscrutable deviousness and dissolve the moral sentiments, the work of the moral faculties

and I at this point might go for a walk, see what the feathered avian dinosaurs are doing, no birds ever got things so wrong as the human species, could ever

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