Date: 6/05/2023 11:19:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 2028025
Subject: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

A video deposition in Donald Trump’s civil rape trial has been released and shows the former US president denying the allegation and mistaking an image of his accuser, E Jean Carroll, for his former wife, Marla Maples.
If you really want to read about it

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Date: 6/05/2023 11:26:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2028037
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

obviously his second wife was not his type.

This Is Who He Is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIYydNYmrk

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Date: 6/05/2023 11:32:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 2028044
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

sarahs mum said:


obviously his second wife was not his type.

This Is Who He Is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIYydNYmrk

Yeah, I know.

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Date: 6/05/2023 11:40:32
From: Michael V
ID: 2028057
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

sarahs mum said:


obviously his second wife was not his type.

This Is Who He Is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIYydNYmrk

I don’t get why nearly half the voting public in the US sees him as some sort of saviour, not as is (I believe correctly) portrayed in that video?

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Date: 6/05/2023 11:43:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 2028062
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

obviously his second wife was not his type.

This Is Who He Is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIYydNYmrk

I don’t get why nearly half the voting public in the US sees him as some sort of saviour, not as is (I believe correctly) portrayed in that video?

Half of America? slightly less but anyway, they think the same way he does so they believe him. You should be able to talk gutter talk and be unapologetic.

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Date: 6/05/2023 11:44:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 2028065
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

obviously his second wife was not his type.

This Is Who He Is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIYydNYmrk

I don’t get why nearly half the voting public in the US sees him as some sort of saviour, not as is (I believe correctly) portrayed in that video?

and why that other half are so worried about everyone’s godliness but his.

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Date: 6/05/2023 11:46:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 2028069
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

obviously his second wife was not his type.

This Is Who He Is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIYydNYmrk

I don’t get why nearly half the voting public in the US sees him as some sort of saviour, not as is (I believe correctly) portrayed in that video?

and why that other half are so worried about everyone’s godliness but his.

After all, they have the pilgrim fathers to thank for all of that.

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Date: 6/05/2023 12:09:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 2028091
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

Trump insults attorney, confuses E. Jean Carroll for ex-wife in deposition video

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Date: 6/05/2023 13:32:46
From: party_pants
ID: 2028129
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

obviously his second wife was not his type.

This Is Who He Is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIYydNYmrk

I don’t get why nearly half the voting public in the US sees him as some sort of saviour, not as is (I believe correctly) portrayed in that video?

It is a bit more nuanced than that. From what I understand, Trumps approval within the registered Republican voters (i.e. those that will choose who the candidate is) is approval rating is at around 50%. So he is a good chance of winning the nomination.

However, in the general voting population his numbers are quite low, down the mid 20s.

So it is quite possible that the MAGA crowd will prevail, but will select a candidate who is unelectable in a general election.

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Date: 6/05/2023 13:40:14
From: Michael V
ID: 2028134
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

obviously his second wife was not his type.

This Is Who He Is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIYydNYmrk

I don’t get why nearly half the voting public in the US sees him as some sort of saviour, not as is (I believe correctly) portrayed in that video?

It is a bit more nuanced than that. From what I understand, Trumps approval within the registered Republican voters (i.e. those that will choose who the candidate is) is approval rating is at around 50%. So he is a good chance of winning the nomination.

However, in the general voting population his numbers are quite low, down the mid 20s.

So it is quite possible that the MAGA crowd will prevail, but will select a candidate who is unelectable in a general election.

I mean, he got nearly half the vote in their last presidential election.

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Date: 6/05/2023 13:46:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 2028137
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

I don’t get why nearly half the voting public in the US sees him as some sort of saviour, not as is (I believe correctly) portrayed in that video?

It is a bit more nuanced than that. From what I understand, Trumps approval within the registered Republican voters (i.e. those that will choose who the candidate is) is approval rating is at around 50%. So he is a good chance of winning the nomination.

However, in the general voting population his numbers are quite low, down the mid 20s.

So it is quite possible that the MAGA crowd will prevail, but will select a candidate who is unelectable in a general election.

I mean, he got nearly half the vote in their last presidential election.

He only needed 12,000 votes in Georgia wasn’t it?

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Date: 6/05/2023 13:52:18
From: party_pants
ID: 2028138
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

I don’t get why nearly half the voting public in the US sees him as some sort of saviour, not as is (I believe correctly) portrayed in that video?

It is a bit more nuanced than that. From what I understand, Trumps approval within the registered Republican voters (i.e. those that will choose who the candidate is) is approval rating is at around 50%. So he is a good chance of winning the nomination.

However, in the general voting population his numbers are quite low, down the mid 20s.

So it is quite possible that the MAGA crowd will prevail, but will select a candidate who is unelectable in a general election.

I mean, he got nearly half the vote in their last presidential election.

Oh, I was talking about today, after all the insurrection stuff and the various legal trials are public knowledge. That is all happened since the last election, and his overall popularity has tanked sharply since then.

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Date: 6/05/2023 13:57:56
From: Michael V
ID: 2028142
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

party_pants said:

It is a bit more nuanced than that. From what I understand, Trumps approval within the registered Republican voters (i.e. those that will choose who the candidate is) is approval rating is at around 50%. So he is a good chance of winning the nomination.

However, in the general voting population his numbers are quite low, down the mid 20s.

So it is quite possible that the MAGA crowd will prevail, but will select a candidate who is unelectable in a general election.

I mean, he got nearly half the vote in their last presidential election.

Oh, I was talking about today, after all the insurrection stuff and the various legal trials are public knowledge. That is all happened since the last election, and his overall popularity has tanked sharply since then.

Fair enough. I still don’t get that even one-in-five approve of him. It just doesn’t make sense to me.

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Date: 6/05/2023 14:10:48
From: party_pants
ID: 2028148
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

I mean, he got nearly half the vote in their last presidential election.

Oh, I was talking about today, after all the insurrection stuff and the various legal trials are public knowledge. That is all happened since the last election, and his overall popularity has tanked sharply since then.

Fair enough. I still don’t get that even one-in-five approve of him. It just doesn’t make sense to me.

They’re fucked in the head.

Realistically, it is like they have joined a cult, or a religion, rather than taking up a certain political persuasion. Humans seem particularly prone to this in all sorts of ways, not just Trumpism. But once converted to a particular brand they are very hard to deconvert, even long after their beliefs are demonstrably shown to be false.

So perhaps they are just being human, and being fucked in the head is a human trait.

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Date: 6/05/2023 14:20:32
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2028152
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

party_pants said:

So it is quite possible that the MAGA crowd will prevail, but will select a candidate who is unelectable in a general election.

Did i just hear an echo from 2016?

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Date: 6/05/2023 14:43:25
From: dv
ID: 2028164
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

party_pants said:

It is a bit more nuanced than that. From what I understand, Trumps approval within the registered Republican voters (i.e. those that will choose who the candidate is) is approval rating is at around 50%. So he is a good chance of winning the nomination.

However, in the general voting population his numbers are quite low, down the mid 20s.

So it is quite possible that the MAGA crowd will prevail, but will select a candidate who is unelectable in a general election.

I mean, he got nearly half the vote in their last presidential election.

He only needed 12,000 votes in Georgia wasn’t it?

Winning Georgia would not have won him the election.

It wasnt close in either the popular vote (lost by 7 million votes) or electoral college (lost 232 to 306).

Also … technically only 31% of the adult population voted for him. 33% didn’t vote at all.

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Date: 6/05/2023 15:12:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 2028175
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

I mean, he got nearly half the vote in their last presidential election.

Oh, I was talking about today, after all the insurrection stuff and the various legal trials are public knowledge. That is all happened since the last election, and his overall popularity has tanked sharply since then.

Fair enough. I still don’t get that even one-in-five approve of him. It just doesn’t make sense to me.

Nothing about Trump makes sense.

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Date: 6/05/2023 15:22:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 2028182
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

party_pants said:

Oh, I was talking about today, after all the insurrection stuff and the various legal trials are public knowledge. That is all happened since the last election, and his overall popularity has tanked sharply since then.

Fair enough. I still don’t get that even one-in-five approve of him. It just doesn’t make sense to me.

They’re fucked in the head.

Realistically, it is like they have joined a cult, or a religion, rather than taking up a certain political persuasion. Humans seem particularly prone to this in all sorts of ways, not just Trumpism. But once converted to a particular brand they are very hard to deconvert, even long after their beliefs are demonstrably shown to be false.

So perhaps they are just being human, and being fucked in the head is a human trait.

The vast majority have an average intelligence.

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Date: 6/05/2023 15:25:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 2028184
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

dv said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

I mean, he got nearly half the vote in their last presidential election.

He only needed 12,000 votes in Georgia wasn’t it?

Winning Georgia would not have won him the election.

It wasnt close in either the popular vote (lost by 7 million votes) or electoral college (lost 232 to 306).

Also … technically only 31% of the adult population voted for him. 33% didn’t vote at all.

Yes.

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Date: 6/05/2023 15:39:04
From: esselte
ID: 2028201
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

Michael V said:


I don’t get why nearly half the voting public in the US sees him as some sort of saviour, not as is (I believe correctly) portrayed in that video?

I’ve said before that I was a Trump supporter in the lead up to the 2016 election. I didn’t give a fuck about any “grab ‘em by the pussy” nonsense or anything like that; Trump appealed to me because his message was “Drain the swamp- the political bureaucracy needs a clean out, political lobbying has to be controlled, rich people like me get all sorts of tax benefits and that’s not fair to the rest of you”. I saw a youtube video showing Trump in various interviews over the past decade with people like Oprah, and he had been saying the same message for all that time. I recognized his childish and immature behavior, but assumed he was just working the system, doing it for the publicity, better to have people talking about you negatively than not talking about you at all, and that on becoming President he would pull on the big boy pants and start acting like a responsible adult.

It didn’t take long after his inauguration for me to start realizing I had been wrong about him. That all those things he had said which I approved of were just bullshit. I fully turned on him for his handling of both COVID and the George Floyd protests.

I presume people that still like him are still seeing the same things I used to. Changing your opinion is not something people do easily… there are all sorts of cognitive biases working against us in that regard.

Additionally we are living through the collapse of white supremacy. White people will be a minority in America by 2045. Like it or not, minorities in society do not have it as good as majorities, and there are a hell of a lot of people seem to be holding a grudge against the paler amongst us for the whole colonialism thing. Regardless of any moral, ethical or “woke” considerations, it is somewhat insane for a majority group to voluntarily give up it’s power over other groups. Trump is seen by many of his supporters as a trail blazer in fighting back against this white demographic collapse.

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Date: 6/05/2023 16:24:19
From: Michael V
ID: 2028215
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

esselte said:


Michael V said:

I don’t get why nearly half the voting public in the US sees him as some sort of saviour, not as is (I believe correctly) portrayed in that video?

I’ve said before that I was a Trump supporter in the lead up to the 2016 election. I didn’t give a fuck about any “grab ‘em by the pussy” nonsense or anything like that; Trump appealed to me because his message was “Drain the swamp- the political bureaucracy needs a clean out, political lobbying has to be controlled, rich people like me get all sorts of tax benefits and that’s not fair to the rest of you”. I saw a youtube video showing Trump in various interviews over the past decade with people like Oprah, and he had been saying the same message for all that time. I recognized his childish and immature behavior, but assumed he was just working the system, doing it for the publicity, better to have people talking about you negatively than not talking about you at all, and that on becoming President he would pull on the big boy pants and start acting like a responsible adult.

It didn’t take long after his inauguration for me to start realizing I had been wrong about him. That all those things he had said which I approved of were just bullshit. I fully turned on him for his handling of both COVID and the George Floyd protests.

I presume people that still like him are still seeing the same things I used to. Changing your opinion is not something people do easily… there are all sorts of cognitive biases working against us in that regard.

Additionally we are living through the collapse of white supremacy. White people will be a minority in America by 2045. Like it or not, minorities in society do not have it as good as majorities, and there are a hell of a lot of people seem to be holding a grudge against the paler amongst us for the whole colonialism thing. Regardless of any moral, ethical or “woke” considerations, it is somewhat insane for a majority group to voluntarily give up it’s power over other groups. Trump is seen by many of his supporters as a trail blazer in fighting back against this white demographic collapse.

Interesting. Thanks for being so candid. I appreciate it.

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Date: 6/05/2023 16:56:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 2028231
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

Michael V said:


esselte said:

Michael V said:

I don’t get why nearly half the voting public in the US sees him as some sort of saviour, not as is (I believe correctly) portrayed in that video?

I’ve said before that I was a Trump supporter in the lead up to the 2016 election. I didn’t give a fuck about any “grab ‘em by the pussy” nonsense or anything like that; Trump appealed to me because his message was “Drain the swamp- the political bureaucracy needs a clean out, political lobbying has to be controlled, rich people like me get all sorts of tax benefits and that’s not fair to the rest of you”. I saw a youtube video showing Trump in various interviews over the past decade with people like Oprah, and he had been saying the same message for all that time. I recognized his childish and immature behavior, but assumed he was just working the system, doing it for the publicity, better to have people talking about you negatively than not talking about you at all, and that on becoming President he would pull on the big boy pants and start acting like a responsible adult.

It didn’t take long after his inauguration for me to start realizing I had been wrong about him. That all those things he had said which I approved of were just bullshit. I fully turned on him for his handling of both COVID and the George Floyd protests.

I presume people that still like him are still seeing the same things I used to. Changing your opinion is not something people do easily… there are all sorts of cognitive biases working against us in that regard.

Additionally we are living through the collapse of white supremacy. White people will be a minority in America by 2045. Like it or not, minorities in society do not have it as good as majorities, and there are a hell of a lot of people seem to be holding a grudge against the paler amongst us for the whole colonialism thing. Regardless of any moral, ethical or “woke” considerations, it is somewhat insane for a majority group to voluntarily give up it’s power over other groups. Trump is seen by many of his supporters as a trail blazer in fighting back against this white demographic collapse.

Interesting. Thanks for being so candid. I appreciate it.

+1

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Date: 6/05/2023 22:08:43
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2028540
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

esselte said:


Michael V said:

I don’t get why nearly half the voting public in the US sees him as some sort of saviour, not as is (I believe correctly) portrayed in that video?

I’ve said before that I was a Trump supporter in the lead up to the 2016 election. I didn’t give a fuck about any “grab ‘em by the pussy” nonsense or anything like that; Trump appealed to me because his message was “Drain the swamp- the political bureaucracy needs a clean out, political lobbying has to be controlled, rich people like me get all sorts of tax benefits and that’s not fair to the rest of you”. I saw a youtube video showing Trump in various interviews over the past decade with people like Oprah, and he had been saying the same message for all that time. I recognized his childish and immature behavior, but assumed he was just working the system, doing it for the publicity, better to have people talking about you negatively than not talking about you at all, and that on becoming President he would pull on the big boy pants and start acting like a responsible adult.

It didn’t take long after his inauguration for me to start realizing I had been wrong about him. That all those things he had said which I approved of were just bullshit. I fully turned on him for his handling of both COVID and the George Floyd protests.

I presume people that still like him are still seeing the same things I used to. Changing your opinion is not something people do easily… there are all sorts of cognitive biases working against us in that regard.

Additionally we are living through the collapse of white supremacy. White people will be a minority in America by 2045. Like it or not, minorities in society do not have it as good as majorities, and there are a hell of a lot of people seem to be holding a grudge against the paler amongst us for the whole colonialism thing. Regardless of any moral, ethical or “woke” considerations, it is somewhat insane for a majority group to voluntarily give up it’s power over other groups. Trump is seen by many of his supporters as a trail blazer in fighting back against this white demographic collapse.


zardoz

the elites yearn to be destroyed

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Date: 8/05/2023 17:28:45
From: Ogmog
ID: 2029161
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

wookiemeister said:


esselte said:

Michael V said:

I don’t get why nearly half the voting public in the US sees him as some sort of saviour, not as is (I believe correctly) portrayed in that video?

I’ve said before that I was a Trump supporter in the lead up to the 2016 election. I didn’t give a fuck about any “grab ‘em by the pussy” nonsense or anything like that; Trump appealed to me because his message was “Drain the swamp- the political bureaucracy needs a clean out, political lobbying has to be controlled, rich people like me get all sorts of tax benefits and that’s not fair to the rest of you”. I saw a youtube video showing Trump in various interviews over the past decade with people like Oprah, and he had been saying the same message for all that time. I recognized his childish and immature behavior, but assumed he was just working the system, doing it for the publicity, better to have people talking about you negatively than not talking about you at all, and that on becoming President he would pull on the big boy pants and start acting like a responsible adult.

It didn’t take long after his inauguration for me to start realizing I had been wrong about him. That all those things he had said which I approved of were just bullshit. I fully turned on him for his handling of both COVID and the George Floyd protests.

I presume people that still like him are still seeing the same things I used to. Changing your opinion is not something people do easily… there are all sorts of cognitive biases working against us in that regard.

Additionally we are living through the collapse of white supremacy. White people will be a minority in America by 2045. Like it or not, minorities in society do not have it as good as majorities, and there are a hell of a lot of people seem to be holding a grudge against the paler amongst us for the whole colonialism thing. Regardless of any moral, ethical or “woke” considerations, it is somewhat insane for a majority group to voluntarily give up it’s power over other groups. Trump is seen by many of his supporters as a trail blazer in fighting back against this white demographic collapse.


zardoz

the elites yearn to be destroyed


Donald Trump: ‘I Could … Shoot Somebody, And I Wouldn’t Lose Any Voters’

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Date: 8/05/2023 17:43:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 2029168
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

Ogmog said:


wookiemeister said:

esselte said:

I’ve said before that I was a Trump supporter in the lead up to the 2016 election. I didn’t give a fuck about any “grab ‘em by the pussy” nonsense or anything like that; Trump appealed to me because his message was “Drain the swamp- the political bureaucracy needs a clean out, political lobbying has to be controlled, rich people like me get all sorts of tax benefits and that’s not fair to the rest of you”. I saw a youtube video showing Trump in various interviews over the past decade with people like Oprah, and he had been saying the same message for all that time. I recognized his childish and immature behavior, but assumed he was just working the system, doing it for the publicity, better to have people talking about you negatively than not talking about you at all, and that on becoming President he would pull on the big boy pants and start acting like a responsible adult.

It didn’t take long after his inauguration for me to start realizing I had been wrong about him. That all those things he had said which I approved of were just bullshit. I fully turned on him for his handling of both COVID and the George Floyd protests.

I presume people that still like him are still seeing the same things I used to. Changing your opinion is not something people do easily… there are all sorts of cognitive biases working against us in that regard.

Additionally we are living through the collapse of white supremacy. White people will be a minority in America by 2045. Like it or not, minorities in society do not have it as good as majorities, and there are a hell of a lot of people seem to be holding a grudge against the paler amongst us for the whole colonialism thing. Regardless of any moral, ethical or “woke” considerations, it is somewhat insane for a majority group to voluntarily give up it’s power over other groups. Trump is seen by many of his supporters as a trail blazer in fighting back against this white demographic collapse.


zardoz

the elites yearn to be destroyed


Donald Trump: ‘I Could … Shoot Somebody, And I Wouldn’t Lose Any Voters’

Likely because his voters want to be able to shoot people too.

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Date: 8/05/2023 17:44:20
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2029169
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

roughbarked said:

Likely because his voters want to be able to shoot people too.

As long as they start with themselves.

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Date: 8/05/2023 17:51:34
From: Michael V
ID: 2029171
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

Likely because his voters want to be able to shoot people too.

As long as they start with themselves.

Sounds fair.

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Date: 8/05/2023 17:53:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 2029172
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

Michael V said:


captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Likely because his voters want to be able to shoot people too.

As long as they start with themselves.

Sounds fair.

I vote for this.

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Date: 8/05/2023 17:55:32
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2029173
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

As long as they start with themselves.

Sounds fair.

I vote for this.

Live ammunition, gun against the head, pull trigger.

After that, they’re licensed to shoot as many people as they can/will.

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Date: 10/05/2023 13:36:42
From: Ogmog
ID: 2029742
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

roughbarked said:


A video deposition in Donald Trump’s civil rape trial has been released and shows the former US president denying the allegation and mistaking an image of his accuser, E Jean Carroll, for his former wife, Marla Maples.
If you really want to read about it

$5,000,000

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Date: 10/05/2023 13:41:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 2029744
Subject: re: Trump's court case, re: rape and groping

Ogmog said:


roughbarked said:

A video deposition in Donald Trump’s civil rape trial has been released and shows the former US president denying the allegation and mistaking an image of his accuser, E Jean Carroll, for his former wife, Marla Maples.
If you really want to read about it

$5,000,000


$7.4 million in our money.

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