Date: 19/05/2023 03:18:21
From: transition
ID: 2032916
Subject: another pointless thought exercise

rendered down, what really is the purpose of TV, if you attributed it a purpose, a fundamental purpose, and if you went to considering how the content is instructional, what instructions does it give that could be generalized to be true of all or most TV, what might be the basic universal instructions it provides or delivers, and does it in fact give the same instructions quietly even when turned off

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Date: 19/05/2023 06:22:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 2032918
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

To bring advertisements into your home.

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Date: 19/05/2023 08:13:03
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2032951
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

The same as radio, which was the same as newspapers, which was the same as the town crier, which was the same as the regular Sunday meetings down the church, which was the same as the get togethers at the Tsodilo Hills of Botswana.

As for when these things are switched off, they don’t do much.

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Date: 19/05/2023 08:22:15
From: esselte
ID: 2032953
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

One Nation under God
has turned into
One Nation under the influence
of one drug

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation

T.V., it satellite links
our United States of unconciousness
Apathetic therapeutic and extremely addictive
the methadone metronome pumping out
a 150 channels 24 hours a day
you can flip through all of them
and still there’s nothing worth watching

T.V. is the reason why less than ten percent of our
Nation reads books daily
Why most people think Central America
means Kansas
Socialism means unamerican
and Apartheid is a new headache remedy

absorbed in it’s world it’s so hard to find us
It shapes our minds the most
maybe the mother of our Nation
should remind us
that we’re sitting to close to. . .

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation

T.V. is
the stomping ground for political candidates
Where bears in the woods
are chased by Grecian Formula’d
bald eagles

T.V. is mechanized politic’s
remote control over the masses
co-sponsered by environmentally safe gases
watch for the PBS special

It’s the perpetuation of the two party system
where image takes precedence over wisdom
Where sound bite politics are served to
the fastfood culture

Where straight teeth in your mouth
are more important than the words
that come out of it
Race baiting is the way to get selected
Willie Horton or
Will he not get elected on . . .

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation

T.V. is it the reflector or the director?
Does it imitate us or do we imitate it
Because a child watches 1500 murders before he’s
twelve years old and we wonder how we’ve created
a Jason generation that learns to laugh
rather than abhor the horror

T.V. is the place where
armchair generals and quarterbacks can
experience first hand
the excitement of video warfare
as the theme song is sung in the background

Sugar sweet sitcoms
that leave us with a bad actor taste while
pop stars metamorphosize into soda pop stars
You saw the video
You heard the soundtrack
Well now go buy the soft drink
Well, the only cola that I support
would be a union C.O.L.A. (Cost of Living Allowance)
On Television.

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation

Back again, “New and Improved”,
we return to our irregularly programmed schedule
hidden cleverly between heavy breasted
beer and car commericals

CNN ESPN ABC TNT but mostly B.S.
Where oxymoronic language like
“virtually spotless” “fresh frozen”
“light yet filling” and “military intelligence”
have become standard

T.V. is the place where phrases are redefined
like “recession” to “necessary downturn”
“crude oil” on a beach to “mousse”
“Civilian death” to “collateral damages”
and being killed by your own Army
is now called “friendly fire”

T.V. is the place where the pursuit
of happiness has become the pursuit of trivia
Where toothpaste and cars have become sex objects
Where imagination is sucked out of children
by a cathode ray nipple
T.V. is the only wet nurse
that would create a cripple

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
On Television . . .

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Date: 19/05/2023 09:51:11
From: Ian
ID: 2032977
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you’re so clever and classless and free
But you’re still fucking peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be

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Date: 19/05/2023 09:52:23
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2032978
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

I don’t possess a television.

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Date: 19/05/2023 09:56:43
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2032980
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

ChrispenEvan said:


I don’t possess a television.

But I’m sure the TV virus became well established over the time that you did.

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Date: 19/05/2023 09:59:25
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2032982
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

Binging on a few words from esselte’s post
I discovered these people

of whom I had never heard before.

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Date: 19/05/2023 09:59:47
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2032983
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

The Rev Dodgson said:


ChrispenEvan said:

I don’t possess a television.

But I’m sure the TV virus became well established over the time that you did.

it turned me into a newt, but I got better.

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:01:47
From: transition
ID: 2032984
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

The Rev Dodgson said:


The same as radio, which was the same as newspapers, which was the same as the town crier, which was the same as the regular Sunday meetings down the church, which was the same as the get togethers at the Tsodilo Hills of Botswana.

As for when these things are switched off, they don’t do much.

but i’d expect going back a way, before TV some way, before the illuminated electric rectangles, nobody had such thorough instruction, instruction by professionals, in the field of pretending, no apparatus existed that passively gave instruction that way

the ideological apparatus previous to that, say church for example, the printed word, the bible certainly was a good initiation into pretending

the casual pretending though via electronic means, using vision with audio, that’s something new really, sort of seventy years now, not without effectual progression

and I wonder, if all on the electric rectangles are pretending, it’s a lesson in pretending, does it have no effect when it is turned off, given you intend and anticipate revisiting the apparatus, and know when you’re not watching it that others are

your news readers, even the weather guy are pretending, not to mention all the movie content etc, the experts at work, the model pretenders

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:02:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2032985
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

ChrispenEvan said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I don’t possess a television.

But I’m sure the TV virus became well established over the time that you did.

it turned me into a newt, but I got better.

Better than Newt – on what basis do you say that?

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:04:16
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2032987
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

transition said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

The same as radio, which was the same as newspapers, which was the same as the town crier, which was the same as the regular Sunday meetings down the church, which was the same as the get togethers at the Tsodilo Hills of Botswana.

As for when these things are switched off, they don’t do much.

but i’d expect going back a way, before TV some way, before the illuminated electric rectangles, nobody had such thorough instruction, instruction by professionals, in the field of pretending, no apparatus existed that passively gave instruction that way

the ideological apparatus previous to that, say church for example, the printed word, the bible certainly was a good initiation into pretending

the casual pretending though via electronic means, using vision with audio, that’s something new really, sort of seventy years now, not without effectual progression

and I wonder, if all on the electric rectangles are pretending, it’s a lesson in pretending, does it have no effect when it is turned off, given you intend and anticipate revisiting the apparatus, and know when you’re not watching it that others are

your news readers, even the weather guy are pretending, not to mention all the movie content etc, the experts at work, the model pretenders

On the contrary, a little electric rectangle is no match for some bloke standing on a raised platform, and preaching at you face to face.

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:06:19
From: transition
ID: 2032989
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

The Rev Dodgson said:


transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

The same as radio, which was the same as newspapers, which was the same as the town crier, which was the same as the regular Sunday meetings down the church, which was the same as the get togethers at the Tsodilo Hills of Botswana.

As for when these things are switched off, they don’t do much.

but i’d expect going back a way, before TV some way, before the illuminated electric rectangles, nobody had such thorough instruction, instruction by professionals, in the field of pretending, no apparatus existed that passively gave instruction that way

the ideological apparatus previous to that, say church for example, the printed word, the bible certainly was a good initiation into pretending

the casual pretending though via electronic means, using vision with audio, that’s something new really, sort of seventy years now, not without effectual progression

and I wonder, if all on the electric rectangles are pretending, it’s a lesson in pretending, does it have no effect when it is turned off, given you intend and anticipate revisiting the apparatus, and know when you’re not watching it that others are

your news readers, even the weather guy are pretending, not to mention all the movie content etc, the experts at work, the model pretenders

On the contrary, a little electric rectangle is no match for some bloke standing on a raised platform, and preaching at you face to face.

you and I might discuss that later

I need get some sunshine

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:08:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2032992
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

transition said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

but i’d expect going back a way, before TV some way, before the illuminated electric rectangles, nobody had such thorough instruction, instruction by professionals, in the field of pretending, no apparatus existed that passively gave instruction that way

the ideological apparatus previous to that, say church for example, the printed word, the bible certainly was a good initiation into pretending

the casual pretending though via electronic means, using vision with audio, that’s something new really, sort of seventy years now, not without effectual progression

and I wonder, if all on the electric rectangles are pretending, it’s a lesson in pretending, does it have no effect when it is turned off, given you intend and anticipate revisiting the apparatus, and know when you’re not watching it that others are

your news readers, even the weather guy are pretending, not to mention all the movie content etc, the experts at work, the model pretenders

On the contrary, a little electric rectangle is no match for some bloke standing on a raised platform, and preaching at you face to face.

you and I might discuss that later

I need get some sunshine

And I need to go off to some discussions where I receive $$ for my thoughts.

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:09:05
From: Arts
ID: 2032993
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

all I know is that if you put your hand on the snow screen and turn and say They’re here – you are about to go on quite the adventure.

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:10:44
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2032996
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

The Rev Dodgson said:


transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

On the contrary, a little electric rectangle is no match for some bloke standing on a raised platform, and preaching at you face to face.

you and I might discuss that later

I need get some sunshine

And I need to go off to some discussions where I receive $$ for my thoughts.

geeez inflation has worked well for you. Back in my day you only got a penny for them.

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:19:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 2033006
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

ChrispenEvan said:


I don’t possess a television.

So you keep telling us. Why you need to repeat this is a bit beyond ken.

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:21:09
From: Tamb
ID: 2033007
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

roughbarked said:


ChrispenEvan said:

I don’t possess a television.

So you keep telling us. Why you need to repeat this is a bit beyond ken.


The CV is on repeat.

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:26:04
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2033008
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

roughbarked said:


ChrispenEvan said:

I don’t possess a television.

So you keep telling us. Why you need to repeat this is a bit beyond ken.

I like to bloviate about my superiority of not being one of the squared eyed masses.

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:29:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 2033010
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

ChrispenEvan said:


roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I don’t possess a television.

So you keep telling us. Why you need to repeat this is a bit beyond ken.

I like to bloviate about my superiority of not being one of the squared eyed masses.

:) I fail to see any superiority.

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:33:32
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2033013
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

roughbarked said:


ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

So you keep telling us. Why you need to repeat this is a bit beyond ken.

I like to bloviate about my superiority of not being one of the squared eyed masses.

:) I fail to see any superiority.

Surely we all have above average superiority on this forum.

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:33:56
From: Arts
ID: 2033014
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I like to bloviate about my superiority of not being one of the squared eyed masses.

:) I fail to see any superiority.

Surely we all have above average superiority on this forum.

I have imposter superiority

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:35:50
From: Tamb
ID: 2033016
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I like to bloviate about my superiority of not being one of the squared eyed masses.

:) I fail to see any superiority.

Surely we all have above average superiority on this forum.


Have it. Flaunt it. Love it.

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:36:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 2033017
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I like to bloviate about my superiority of not being one of the squared eyed masses.

:) I fail to see any superiority.

Surely we all have above average superiority on this forum.

Superiority over whom?

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:37:40
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2033018
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

Arts said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

:) I fail to see any superiority.

Surely we all have above average superiority on this forum.

I have imposter superiority

Yeah?

Well my imposter superiority is better than your imposter superiority.

(I had to look up imposter superiority btw).

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:39:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 2033019
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

The Rev Dodgson said:


Arts said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Surely we all have above average superiority on this forum.

I have imposter superiority

Yeah?

Well my imposter superiority is better than your imposter superiority.

(I had to look up imposter superiority btw).

But Imposter Syndrome has an evil twin – Superiority Complex.

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:41:12
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 2033020
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

:) I fail to see any superiority.

Surely we all have above average superiority on this forum.

Superiority over whom?

the hoi polloi.

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Date: 19/05/2023 10:41:54
From: Arts
ID: 2033021
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

The Rev Dodgson said:


Arts said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Surely we all have above average superiority on this forum.

I have imposter superiority

Yeah?

Well my imposter superiority is better than your imposter superiority.

(I had to look up imposter superiority btw).

I made it up – it’s a play on imposter syndrome (which I also have)

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Date: 19/05/2023 12:12:31
From: buffy
ID: 2033051
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

transition said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

The same as radio, which was the same as newspapers, which was the same as the town crier, which was the same as the regular Sunday meetings down the church, which was the same as the get togethers at the Tsodilo Hills of Botswana.

As for when these things are switched off, they don’t do much.

but i’d expect going back a way, before TV some way, before the illuminated electric rectangles, nobody had such thorough instruction, instruction by professionals, in the field of pretending, no apparatus existed that passively gave instruction that way

the ideological apparatus previous to that, say church for example, the printed word, the bible certainly was a good initiation into pretending

the casual pretending though via electronic means, using vision with audio, that’s something new really, sort of seventy years now, not without effectual progression

and I wonder, if all on the electric rectangles are pretending, it’s a lesson in pretending, does it have no effect when it is turned off, given you intend and anticipate revisiting the apparatus, and know when you’re not watching it that others are

your news readers, even the weather guy are pretending, not to mention all the movie content etc, the experts at work, the model pretenders

You’ve not heard of oral history methods then?

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Date: 19/05/2023 12:15:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 2033053
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

buffy said:


transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

The same as radio, which was the same as newspapers, which was the same as the town crier, which was the same as the regular Sunday meetings down the church, which was the same as the get togethers at the Tsodilo Hills of Botswana.

As for when these things are switched off, they don’t do much.

but i’d expect going back a way, before TV some way, before the illuminated electric rectangles, nobody had such thorough instruction, instruction by professionals, in the field of pretending, no apparatus existed that passively gave instruction that way

the ideological apparatus previous to that, say church for example, the printed word, the bible certainly was a good initiation into pretending

the casual pretending though via electronic means, using vision with audio, that’s something new really, sort of seventy years now, not without effectual progression

and I wonder, if all on the electric rectangles are pretending, it’s a lesson in pretending, does it have no effect when it is turned off, given you intend and anticipate revisiting the apparatus, and know when you’re not watching it that others are

your news readers, even the weather guy are pretending, not to mention all the movie content etc, the experts at work, the model pretenders

You’ve not heard of oral history methods then?

I’ve heard the First Austalians were proficient in this.

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Date: 19/05/2023 12:31:22
From: transition
ID: 2033058
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

buffy said:


transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

The same as radio, which was the same as newspapers, which was the same as the town crier, which was the same as the regular Sunday meetings down the church, which was the same as the get togethers at the Tsodilo Hills of Botswana.

As for when these things are switched off, they don’t do much.

but i’d expect going back a way, before TV some way, before the illuminated electric rectangles, nobody had such thorough instruction, instruction by professionals, in the field of pretending, no apparatus existed that passively gave instruction that way

the ideological apparatus previous to that, say church for example, the printed word, the bible certainly was a good initiation into pretending

the casual pretending though via electronic means, using vision with audio, that’s something new really, sort of seventy years now, not without effectual progression

and I wonder, if all on the electric rectangles are pretending, it’s a lesson in pretending, does it have no effect when it is turned off, given you intend and anticipate revisiting the apparatus, and know when you’re not watching it that others are

your news readers, even the weather guy are pretending, not to mention all the movie content etc, the experts at work, the model pretenders

You’ve not heard of oral history methods then?

are you saying all the actors in the electric rectangles are same enough to be equated with oral history communicators going back through time, that it’s substantially same enough not be considered essentially different, not worth exploring

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Date: 19/05/2023 18:55:08
From: furious
ID: 2033234
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

Ask Björk…

One thing is for sure, You shouldn’t let poets lie to you…

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Date: 19/05/2023 18:58:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2033235
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

furious said:


Ask Björk…

One thing is for sure, You shouldn’t let poets lie to you…

““You shouldn’t let poets lie to you.”

The deepest quote I’ve ever heard in my life.”

Not sure about that.

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Date: 21/05/2023 20:45:18
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2033959
Subject: re: another pointless thought exercise

roughbarked said:


To bring advertisements into your home.

Agreed

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