General Zaluzhny – permanently incapacitated. Artillery / missile strike

Bakhmut falls

Drone attacks on Russian navy , fails.

Storm shadow attacks , fails

Poland makes more noise threatening to invade from the west , again.

Wagner leaves bakhmut for r and r. Bakhmut 50 – 100k dead/ wounded.

Artillery and missile attacks on uko forces continues. They’ve been targeting ammo dumps for weeks now. 500kg – 1.5 tonne FAB glide bombs used.

https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/?main=https%3A//tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/2035549/

Raid into Russia

- 2 American armored vehicles M1224 MaxxPro (both captured)
- 2 American armored vehicles HMMWV M1151A1 (both damaged and abandoned)
- 1 American cargo armored car HMMWV M1152A1 (destroyed)
- 1 Ukrainian armored car KRAZ COBRA (destroyed)
- 1 Polish armored car AMZ Dzik-2 (destroyed)

Several units of light vehicles were also destroyed.

wookiemeister said:

General Zaluzhny – permanently incapacitated. Artillery / missile strike

Bakhmut falls

Drone attacks on Russian navy , fails.

Storm shadow attacks , fails

Poland makes more noise threatening to invade from the west , again.

Wagner leaves bakhmut for r and r. Bakhmut 50 – 100k dead/ wounded.

Artillery and missile attacks on uko forces continues. They’ve been targeting ammo dumps for weeks now. 500kg – 1.5 tonne FAB glide bombs used.

I hope those Wagner brigands haven’t made any long-term plans.

“Ukraine and Russia trade places in battle for Bakhmut

Russia’s Wagner Group claims to have captured Bakhmut in eastern Ukraine this week, but the government in Kyiv says it intends to recapture the ruined city after surrounding it.

“We continue to advance on the flanks in the suburbs of Bakhmut and are actually approaching the capture of the city in a tactical encirclement,” overall ground forces commander Oleksandr Syrskyi said as Ukrainian forces added that they had recaptured 4sq km (1.5sq miles) of territory.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/24/ukraine-russia-trade-places-in-battle-for-bakhmut?traffic_source=KeepReading

And maybe the drone attacks and Storm Shadow attacks failed (and maybe they didn’t) but the notable thing is that they were attacks. The Ukrainians are attacking, not the Russians.

Witty Rejoinder said:

https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/?main=https%3A//tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/2035549/

Considering the liberal and Labor party have couple of billion dollars into this conflict to fight Russia, I figure that a thread of its own has merit.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

General Zaluzhny – permanently incapacitated. Artillery / missile strike

Bakhmut falls

Drone attacks on Russian navy , fails.

Storm shadow attacks , fails

Poland makes more noise threatening to invade from the west , again.

Wagner leaves bakhmut for r and r. Bakhmut 50 – 100k dead/ wounded.

Artillery and missile attacks on uko forces continues. They’ve been targeting ammo dumps for weeks now. 500kg – 1.5 tonne FAB glide bombs used.

I hope those Wagner brigands haven’t made any long-term plans.

“Ukraine and Russia trade places in battle for Bakhmut

Russia’s Wagner Group claims to have captured Bakhmut in eastern Ukraine this week, but the government in Kyiv says it intends to recapture the ruined city after surrounding it.

“We continue to advance on the flanks in the suburbs of Bakhmut and are actually approaching the capture of the city in a tactical encirclement,” overall ground forces commander Oleksandr Syrskyi said as Ukrainian forces added that they had recaptured 4sq km (1.5sq miles) of territory.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/24/ukraine-russia-trade-places-in-battle-for-bakhmut?traffic_source=KeepReading

And maybe the drone attacks and Storm Shadow attacks failed (and maybe they didn’t) but the notable thing is that they were attacks. The Ukrainians are attacking, not the Russians.

I still put my money on the red army

Remember, they are still building steam, the tank factories are still only ramping up. The missile factories, and everything else.

By the time Australia gets involved the russians will be at full strength. Remember when they said Abrams and Leopards would never be sent? You should see F16s going to battle in the next few months, maybe flown by American pilots 10,000 dollars per mission?? Britain might well commit typhoons. Australia could easily commit 20 x F18s and all F35s to this conflict, after all – the Australian airforce is the best in the world – we have nothing to fear from those backward Slavs.

By the time this conflict ends you might well have at least 20,000 – 30,000 Russian tanks operating in the ukraine combat zone ( and beyond) the main thrust might well be back to Berlin. The russians won’t make the same mistake twice.

wookiemeister said:

Wagner leaves bakhmut for r and r. Bakhmut 50 – 100k dead/ wounded.

So, they’re just popping off for a couple of weeks in a hotel in Gelendzhik or somewhere, catch a few rays, a couple of steaks in the restaurant, chill out by the pool, and then back into the rubble and ruin, all refreshed and ready to do business, eh?

No, matey, Wagner only pulls out when it looks like certain doom. Their soldiers are the dregs of the recruitment pool, and utterly expendable in Wagner’s eyes. The only reason they’d pull them out is because keeping them alive is easier and less expensive than finding replacements for them.

If the do get ‘R&R’ it’s going to be in some sheds somewhere a bit back from the line, and living it up on whatever rations they can scrounge from their employers or steal from the locals.

They’ll be back in the line soon, and they won’t be going far from until they win, or they all die.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

Wagner leaves bakhmut for r and r. Bakhmut 50 – 100k dead/ wounded.

So, they’re just popping off for a couple of weeks in a hotel in Gelendzhik or somewhere, catch a few rays, a couple of steaks in the restaurant, chill out by the pool, and then back into the rubble and ruin, all refreshed and ready to do business, eh?

No, matey, Wagner only pulls out when it looks like certain doom. Their soldiers are the dregs of the recruitment pool, and utterly expendable in Wagner’s eyes. The only reason they’d pull them out is because keeping them alive is easier and less expensive than finding replacements for them.

If the do get ‘R&R’ it’s going to be in some sheds somewhere a bit back from the line, and living it up on whatever rations they can scrounge from their employers or steal from the locals.

They’ll be back in the line soon, and they won’t be going far from until they win, or they all die.

Australia needs to commit 100,000 troops to this conflict

The way I see things now when it comes to the Australian government is this : what’s the most stupid thing we could do ? We then take this idea and pump it with steroids.

For the moment ukraine is a side show, total casualties perhaps 1.5 million every year ramping up with every year. The russians have to burn through their stocks of the early 2000s yet, it takes time, money and effort to keep a handle on 20 million artillery shells.

wookiemeister said:

…it takes time, money and effort to keep a handle on 20 million artillery shells.

How old do you think some of those 20 million shells might be?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-26/friday-news-quiz-tina-arena-tina-turner-and-disney-movie/102393458
7/10

Peak Warming Man said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-26/friday-news-quiz-tina-arena-tina-turner-and-disney-movie/102393458
7/10

Just when you think that the war can’t get any worse…

Lanz Bulldog tractors. Single cylinder, 10.3 Litre oil engine. 540 rpm under full load. Can run on strained, used engine oil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI_fW-ofCeQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanz_Bulldog

Michael V said:

Lanz Bulldog tractors. Single cylinder, 10.3 Litre oil engine. 540 rpm under full load. Can run on strained, used engine oil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI_fW-ofCeQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanz_Bulldog

Wow, how cool is that.

I bet they take them for walks every day.

Michael V said:

Lanz Bulldog tractors. Single cylinder, 10.3 Litre oil engine. 540 rpm under full load. Can run on strained, used engine oil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI_fW-ofCeQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanz_Bulldog

And almost the opposite: A 1966 Honda 250 cc 6 cylinder race bike: 22,000 rpm redline, 65 horsepower – considerably more than the tractor above. Riding starts about 2:20, where you get the full hair-raising sound of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o57JwibqCb8

Michael V said:

Lanz Bulldog tractors. Single cylinder, 10.3 Litre oil engine. 540 rpm under full load. Can run on strained, used engine oil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI_fW-ofCeQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanz_Bulldog

and if you aren’t careful they’ll only go backwards.

Why Australians are being warned to prepare for even more rent hikes – as landlords reveal their next move amid rising interest rates and tax hikes

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12126589/Why-Australians-warned-prepare-rent-hikes.html

How power price rises will gobble up Anthony Albanese’s energy rebates as calls grow for the government to do more to lower the price of power

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12122639/Energy-rebates-Australia-need-know.html

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Lanz Bulldog tractors. Single cylinder, 10.3 Litre oil engine. 540 rpm under full load. Can run on strained, used engine oil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI_fW-ofCeQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanz_Bulldog

and if you aren’t careful they’ll only go backwards.

That’s why all the mucking around with the pump controller, to near stall it then revive it, hoping the motor will revive in the correct direction.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

…it takes time, money and effort to keep a handle on 20 million artillery shells.

How old do you think some of those 20 million shells might be?

Most manufacturers guarantee that their ammunition will last for at least a decade. That said, ammunition can easily last beyond 10 years if it is stored under ideal conditions. There are countless tales of military surplus ammo being used many decades after it was manufactured.

The IFG weapon has a very high angle of fire and is capable of a very high degree of accuracy. The high angle firing capability enables the gun to be fired as a howitzer. SHELF LIFE : The shelf life of the filled ammunition is 30 years.

i’m thinking the russians would have packed this stuff well enough to be used for decades. i australia we’ve buried artillery shells in secret locations – presumably they would have wrapped these things well enough for them to be used for decades

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

…it takes time, money and effort to keep a handle on 20 million artillery shells.

How old do you think some of those 20 million shells might be?

Most manufacturers guarantee that their ammunition will last for at least a decade. That said, ammunition can easily last beyond 10 years if it is stored under ideal conditions. There are countless tales of military surplus ammo being used many decades after it was manufactured.

The IFG weapon has a very high angle of fire and is capable of a very high degree of accuracy. The high angle firing capability enables the gun to be fired as a howitzer. SHELF LIFE : The shelf life of the filled ammunition is 30 years.

i’m thinking the russians would have packed this stuff well enough to be used for decades. i australia we’ve buried artillery shells in secret locations – presumably they would have wrapped these things well enough for them to be used for decades

Yes, you’re right old munitions have been used a long time after manufacture. Bombs made in WW2 were used in Vietnam (and may well have been a contributing factor in the disastrous fire aboard USS Forrestal).

The things i was most familiar with were 4.5 in / 115mm and 5in. / 125mm shells, including their storage in magazines

I take the story of buried artillery rounds with a grain of salt. Explosives deteriorate slowly if kept in proper storage. A well-run armaments storage is just about the most carefully managed and maintained facility imaginable. If conditions are not properly managed, deterioration can take place at exponential rates. Ammunition is meant to be used, and careful management ensures that munitions are not kept past their ‘use by’ date.

With Russia’s undeniable record of mismanagement of facilities, deterioration of maintenance, and outright embezzlement of funds for various military functions, i sincerely doubt that all of their magazines have been properly run, and, in fact, it’s likely that quite a number of them have not been for some time.

If i was a Russian artilleryman, i would be looking closely at the ammunition supplied out of those 20 million shells, and treating any that have long-ago dates on them very cautiously. If they are going to dig deeply into their stocks, we might well see a rise the incidence of premature/muzzle bursts and in-breech explosions.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

How old do you think some of those 20 million shells might be?

Most manufacturers guarantee that their ammunition will last for at least a decade. That said, ammunition can easily last beyond 10 years if it is stored under ideal conditions. There are countless tales of military surplus ammo being used many decades after it was manufactured.

The IFG weapon has a very high angle of fire and is capable of a very high degree of accuracy. The high angle firing capability enables the gun to be fired as a howitzer. SHELF LIFE : The shelf life of the filled ammunition is 30 years.

i’m thinking the russians would have packed this stuff well enough to be used for decades. i australia we’ve buried artillery shells in secret locations – presumably they would have wrapped these things well enough for them to be used for decades

Yes, you’re right old munitions have been used a long time after manufacture. Bombs made in WW2 were used in Vietnam (and may well have been a contributing factor in the disastrous fire aboard USS Forrestal).

The things i was most familiar with were 4.5 in / 115mm and 5in. / 125mm shells, including their storage in magazines

I take the story of buried artillery rounds with a grain of salt. Explosives deteriorate slowly if kept in proper storage. A well-run armaments storage is just about the most carefully managed and maintained facility imaginable. If conditions are not properly managed, deterioration can take place at exponential rates. Ammunition is meant to be used, and careful management ensures that munitions are not kept past their ‘use by’ date.

With Russia’s undeniable record of mismanagement of facilities, deterioration of maintenance, and outright embezzlement of funds for various military functions, i sincerely doubt that all of their magazines have been properly run, and, in fact, it’s likely that quite a number of them have not been for some time.

If i was a Russian artilleryman, i would be looking closely at the ammunition supplied out of those 20 million shells, and treating any that have long-ago dates on them very cautiously. If they are going to dig deeply into their stocks, we might well see a rise the incidence of premature/muzzle bursts and in-breech explosions.

the idea of buried artillery shells means if the existing ammo dumps get hit you can go dig up from the secret locations (its real)

wookiemeister said:

the idea of buried artillery shells means if the existing ammo dumps get hit you can go dig up from the secret locations (its real)

Well, i’ll be happy to leave their handling to someone else.

presumably if you were burying shells you’d find a well drained / higher ground not affected by flood, ideally easy to dig. ideally on government land.

how deep? ideally not too deep, worst case scenario could be excavated by hand

its why one of my older ideas would be to simply bury a solid fuel missile in a sealed pipe with a easily changed battery every say ten years

you bury it and come the day send a signal to it , the lid blows off and it roars off into the atmosphere.

you don’t have one / few ammo dumps that can be annihilated, they lost 500 million in weapons in a russian strike last week i think (and other strikes)

Looks as if NATO will be bombing Serbia again.

If they are loaded with ICBMs Serbia can strike back at European capitals I guess. No more Westminster I suppose. Just over 100 years for WW1 to break out again.

wookiemeister said:

Raid into Russia

- 2 American armored vehicles M1224 MaxxPro (both captured)
- 2 American armored vehicles HMMWV M1151A1 (both damaged and abandoned)
- 1 American cargo armored car HMMWV M1152A1 (destroyed)
- 1 Ukrainian armored car KRAZ COBRA (destroyed)
- 1 Polish armored car AMZ Dzik-2 (destroyed)

Several units of light vehicles were also destroyed.

And the drone strike failed.

captain_spalding said:

:)

captain_spalding said:

hehehe.

Soon they will bring out the T18’s they have.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Soon they will bring out the T18’s they have.

I don’t dismiss the Russians as being on their last legs.

Russia is, indeed, infested with tanks. Some are in good condition, some terrible, but a lot of them could be made to work. Perhaps as many as 5,000.

They won’t be modern, they won’t be the best, in fact, a lot of them would be absolute death traps for their crews.

Bu there could be a lot of them, and that, as i’ve said before, is the Russian way of doing things. Sheer numbers. Everything is expendable, in the eyes of their political and military leadership, tanks, aircraft, and especially people. Losses are not a concern, just keep feeding them in.

It makes me wonder why wookie is so keen for them to win. He doesn’t seem like a ‘bad’ person, with any liking for evil causes. Russian leadership considers their own people to have no value, other than that they can pull a trigger or stop a bullet. What kind of regime does he think they’d impose on a ‘renegade’ people like the Ukrainians?

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Soon they will bring out the T18’s they have.

I don’t dismiss the Russians as being on their last legs.

Russia is, indeed, infested with tanks. Some are in good condition, some terrible, but a lot of them could be made to work. Perhaps as many as 5,000.

They won’t be modern, they won’t be the best, in fact, a lot of them would be absolute death traps for their crews.

Bu there could be a lot of them, and that, as i’ve said before, is the Russian way of doing things. Sheer numbers. Everything is expendable, in the eyes of their political and military leadership, tanks, aircraft, and especially people. Losses are not a concern, just keep feeding them in.

It makes me wonder why wookie is so keen for them to win. He doesn’t seem like a ‘bad’ person, with any liking for evil causes. Russian leadership considers their own people to have no value, other than that they can pull a trigger or stop a bullet. What kind of regime does he think they’d impose on a ‘renegade’ people like the Ukrainians?

No one can understand Wookie, not even Wookie.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Soon they will bring out the T18’s they have.

I don’t think Toyota T-18’s will win the war for them.

Maybe more Hilux utes though.

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Soon they will bring out the T18’s they have.

I don’t dismiss the Russians as being on their last legs.

Russia is, indeed, infested with tanks. Some are in good condition, some terrible, but a lot of them could be made to work. Perhaps as many as 5,000.

They won’t be modern, they won’t be the best, in fact, a lot of them would be absolute death traps for their crews.

Bu there could be a lot of them, and that, as i’ve said before, is the Russian way of doing things. Sheer numbers. Everything is expendable, in the eyes of their political and military leadership, tanks, aircraft, and especially people. Losses are not a concern, just keep feeding them in.

It makes me wonder why wookie is so keen for them to win. He doesn’t seem like a ‘bad’ person, with any liking for evil causes. Russian leadership considers their own people to have no value, other than that they can pull a trigger or stop a bullet. What kind of regime does he think they’d impose on a ‘renegade’ people like the Ukrainians?

Wookie has a boner for death and destruction. He does actually want it to happen. Before Ukraine it was Turk’s destroying US carriers in the eastern Med and other crazy predictions.

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Soon they will bring out the T18’s they have.

I don’t dismiss the Russians as being on their last legs.

Russia is, indeed, infested with tanks. Some are in good condition, some terrible, but a lot of them could be made to work. Perhaps as many as 5,000.

They won’t be modern, they won’t be the best, in fact, a lot of them would be absolute death traps for their crews.

Bu there could be a lot of them, and that, as i’ve said before, is the Russian way of doing things. Sheer numbers. Everything is expendable, in the eyes of their political and military leadership, tanks, aircraft, and especially people. Losses are not a concern, just keep feeding them in.

It makes me wonder why wookie is so keen for them to win. He doesn’t seem like a ‘bad’ person, with any liking for evil causes. Russian leadership considers their own people to have no value, other than that they can pull a trigger or stop a bullet. What kind of regime does he think they’d impose on a ‘renegade’ people like the Ukrainians?

Troll.

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Soon they will bring out the T18’s they have.

I don’t dismiss the Russians as being on their last legs.

Russia is, indeed, infested with tanks. Some are in good condition, some terrible, but a lot of them could be made to work. Perhaps as many as 5,000.

They won’t be modern, they won’t be the best, in fact, a lot of them would be absolute death traps for their crews.

Bu there could be a lot of them, and that, as i’ve said before, is the Russian way of doing things. Sheer numbers. Everything is expendable, in the eyes of their political and military leadership, tanks, aircraft, and especially people. Losses are not a concern, just keep feeding them in.

It makes me wonder why wookie is so keen for them to win. He doesn’t seem like a ‘bad’ person, with any liking for evil causes. Russian leadership considers their own people to have no value, other than that they can pull a trigger or stop a bullet. What kind of regime does he think they’d impose on a ‘renegade’ people like the Ukrainians?

No one can understand Wookie, not even Wookie.

Essentially, he hates western society, democracy, capitalism and all the rest of it; and is always eager for it to fail.An apocalyptic outlook/

Now, if you mention Prigozhin or Wagner in public, including on the internet, you can be sent to prison:

captain_spalding said:

Now, if you mention Prigozhin or Wagner in public, including on the internet, you can be sent to prison:

Shakes head.

Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Now, if you mention Prigozhin or Wagner in public, including on the internet, you can be sent to prison:

Shakes head.

Fuck ‘em. Let them arrest me here.

wookiemeister said:

General Zaluzhny – permanently incapacitated. Artillery / missile strike

Bakhmut falls

Drone attacks on Russian navy , fails.

Storm shadow attacks , fails

Poland makes more noise threatening to invade from the west , again.

Wagner leaves bakhmut for r and r. Bakhmut 50 – 100k dead/ wounded.

Artillery and missile attacks on uko forces continues. They’ve been targeting ammo dumps for weeks now. 500kg – 1.5 tonne FAB glide bombs used.

Update

Zaluzhny returns from the dead after a 3 week absence

Might have been something with diabetes , house arrest, or an unjury.

wookiemeister said:

Drone attacks on Russian navy , fails.

Call me blinkered, call me old fashioned, call me Ishmael, but, in my book, getting your water-borne drone hard up against the quarterdeck of your target vessel, with the video/comms link still obviously working and presumably able to detonate the 200kg high-explosive load does not look awfully much like a failure to me.

If there’s any current word on the location of and condition the AGI ‘Ivan Khurs’, i will be more than pleased to give it proper consideration.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

Drone attacks on Russian navy , fails.

Call me blinkered, call me old fashioned, call me Ishmael, but, in my book, getting your water-borne drone hard up against the quarterdeck of your target vessel, with the video/comms link still obviously working and presumably able to detonate the 200kg high-explosive load does not look awfully much like a failure to me.

If there’s any current word on the location of and condition the AGI ‘Ivan Khurs’, i will be more than pleased to give it proper consideration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4tarhtTFA4

Link

Ivan Khurs Update — Satellite Imagery of Sevastopol Base Shows The Ivan Khurs Has Docked

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

Drone attacks on Russian navy , fails.

Call me blinkered, call me old fashioned, call me Ishmael, but, in my book, getting your water-borne drone hard up against the quarterdeck of your target vessel, with the video/comms link still obviously working and presumably able to detonate the 200kg high-explosive load does not look awfully much like a failure to me.

If there’s any current word on the location of and condition the AGI ‘Ivan Khurs’, i will be more than pleased to give it proper consideration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4tarhtTFA4

Link

Ivan Khurs Update — Satellite Imagery of Sevastopol Base Shows The Ivan Khurs Has Docked

So it seems.

It appears that it has not been sunk. We can’t tell from that image whether or not there’s any damage.

However, it’s not at sea, and, as some of the comments point out, if an intelligence-gathering ship is not at sea, it’s not doing its job.

So, damaged or not, having retreated to a safe berth, its function has been negated.

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

Call me blinkered, call me old fashioned, call me Ishmael, but, in my book, getting your water-borne drone hard up against the quarterdeck of your target vessel, with the video/comms link still obviously working and presumably able to detonate the 200kg high-explosive load does not look awfully much like a failure to me.

If there’s any current word on the location of and condition the AGI ‘Ivan Khurs’, i will be more than pleased to give it proper consideration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4tarhtTFA4

Link

Ivan Khurs Update — Satellite Imagery of Sevastopol Base Shows The Ivan Khurs Has Docked

So it seems.

It appears that it has not been sunk. We can’t tell from that image whether or not there’s any damage.

However, it’s not at sea, and, as some of the comments point out, if an intelligence-gathering ship is not at sea, it’s not doing its job.

So, damaged or not, having retreated to a safe berth, its function has been negated.

Certainly sent them running for cover.

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

Call me blinkered, call me old fashioned, call me Ishmael, but, in my book, getting your water-borne drone hard up against the quarterdeck of your target vessel, with the video/comms link still obviously working and presumably able to detonate the 200kg high-explosive load does not look awfully much like a failure to me.

If there’s any current word on the location of and condition the AGI ‘Ivan Khurs’, i will be more than pleased to give it proper consideration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4tarhtTFA4

Link

Ivan Khurs Update — Satellite Imagery of Sevastopol Base Shows The Ivan Khurs Has Docked

So it seems.

It appears that it has not been sunk. We can’t tell from that image whether or not there’s any damage.

However, it’s not at sea, and, as some of the comments point out, if an intelligence-gathering ship is not at sea, it’s not doing its job.

So, damaged or not, having retreated to a safe berth, its function has been negated.

Ive just seen images from all angles, no damage

Lucky

Massive drone attacks against infrastructure, ammo dumps continue

The ukos have been bombing hospitals for ages, the russians hit a Ukrainian hospital full of injured soldiers – it’s a smoking wreck.

Some Ukrainian commander has just been shot by a company commander to stop a suicidal attack against russian forces.

Other pages show tonnes of lancet drone attacks , the m777 artillery piece seems popular.

wookiemeister said:

Massive drone attacks against infrastructure, ammo dumps continue

The ukos have been bombing hospitals for ages, the russians hit a Ukrainian hospital full of injured soldiers – it’s a smoking wreck.

Some Ukrainian commander has just been shot by a company commander to stop a suicidal attack against russian forces.

Other pages show tonnes of lancet drone attacks , the m777 artillery piece seems popular.

Pravda is always good for a laugh.

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4tarhtTFA4

Link

Ivan Khurs Update — Satellite Imagery of Sevastopol Base Shows The Ivan Khurs Has Docked

So it seems.

It appears that it has not been sunk. We can’t tell from that image whether or not there’s any damage.

However, it’s not at sea, and, as some of the comments point out, if an intelligence-gathering ship is not at sea, it’s not doing its job.

So, damaged or not, having retreated to a safe berth, its function has been negated.

Ive just seen images from all angles, no damage

Lucky

You haven’t seen images from all angles because Russia has not released all angles images.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/drone-boat-attack-on-russian-ship-in-black-sea-story-keeps-getting-weirder

PermeateFree said:

wookiemeister said:

Massive drone attacks against infrastructure, ammo dumps continue

The ukos have been bombing hospitals for ages, the russians hit a Ukrainian hospital full of injured soldiers – it’s a smoking wreck.

Some Ukrainian commander has just been shot by a company commander to stop a suicidal attack against russian forces.

Other pages show tonnes of lancet drone attacks , the m777 artillery piece seems popular.

Pravda is always good for a laugh.

Pravda, (Russian: “Truth”) newspaper that was the official organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union from 1918 to 1991. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, numerous publications and Web sites continued under the Pravda name.

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4tarhtTFA4

Link

Ivan Khurs Update — Satellite Imagery of Sevastopol Base Shows The Ivan Khurs Has Docked

So it seems.

It appears that it has not been sunk. We can’t tell from that image whether or not there’s any damage.

However, it’s not at sea, and, as some of the comments point out, if an intelligence-gathering ship is not at sea, it’s not doing its job.

So, damaged or not, having retreated to a safe berth, its function has been negated.

Ive just seen images from all angles, no damage

Lucky

Are you able to please share them with us, along with any information as to where and when the images were taken?

And, as i say, it’s safe enough in port, behind the harbour defences.

But, it wasn’t built to stay in port.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

So it seems.

It appears that it has not been sunk. We can’t tell from that image whether or not there’s any damage.

However, it’s not at sea, and, as some of the comments point out, if an intelligence-gathering ship is not at sea, it’s not doing its job.

So, damaged or not, having retreated to a safe berth, its function has been negated.

Ive just seen images from all angles, no damage

Lucky

Are you able to please share them with us, along with any information as to where and when the images were taken?

And, as i say, it’s safe enough in port, behind the harbour defences.

But, it wasn’t built to stay in port.

LOL, you are dreaming if you think you’re going to get a link. Do your own research. It is all out there. Waves vaguely.

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

Ive just seen images from all angles, no damage

Lucky

Are you able to please share them with us, along with any information as to where and when the images were taken?

And, as i say, it’s safe enough in port, behind the harbour defences.

But, it wasn’t built to stay in port.

LOL, you are dreaming if you think you’re going to get a link. Do your own research. It is all out there. Waves vaguely.

When did you forget to change your handle back?

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

Are you able to please share them with us, along with any information as to where and when the images were taken?

And, as i say, it’s safe enough in port, behind the harbour defences.

But, it wasn’t built to stay in port.

LOL, you are dreaming if you think you’re going to get a link. Do your own research. It is all out there. Waves vaguely.

When did you forget to change your handle back?

what?

JudgeMental said:

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

LOL, you are dreaming if you think you’re going to get a link. Do your own research. It is all out there. Waves vaguely.

When did you forget to change your handle back?

what?

That isn’t the forum way. You are supposed to post something off topic and claim it to be true and relevant.

JudgeMental said:

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

LOL, you are dreaming if you think you’re going to get a link. Do your own research. It is all out there. Waves vaguely.

When did you forget to change your handle back?

what?

Meant to be a joke. You were sounding rather wookieish.

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

roughbarked said:

When did you forget to change your handle back?

what?

Meant to be a joke. You were sounding rather wookieish.

He was sarcastically employing Wookie’s diversions.

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

what?

Meant to be a joke. You were sounding rather wookieish.

He was sarcastically employing Wookie’s diversions.

and I’m not allowed to make jokes of sarcastic value?

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

what?

Meant to be a joke. You were sounding rather wookieish.

He was sarcastically employing Wookie’s diversions.

yep. Plus it is also the nutters response to enquiries about their sources.

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Meant to be a joke. You were sounding rather wookieish.

He was sarcastically employing Wookie’s diversions.

and I’m not allowed to make jokes of sarcastic value?

Sure but I thought you might have thought Boris wasn’t.

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Meant to be a joke. You were sounding rather wookieish.

He was sarcastically employing Wookie’s diversions.

and I’m not allowed to make jokes of sarcastic value?

Sure but I thought you might have thought Boris wasn’t.

JudgeMental said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Meant to be a joke. You were sounding rather wookieish.

He was sarcastically employing Wookie’s diversions.

yep. Plus it is also the nutters response to enquiries about their sources.

This.

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

He was sarcastically employing Wookie’s diversions.

and I’m not allowed to make jokes of sarcastic value?

Sure but I thought you might have thought Boris wasn’t.

You know what thought, thought?

https://theconversation.com/was-christmas-tree-what-mungee-the-worlds-largest-mistletoe-can-teach-us-about-treading-lightly-205568

Link

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

He was sarcastically employing Wookie’s diversions.

yep. Plus it is also the nutters response to enquiries about their sources.

This.

a CHILD could find the proof on the internetz

check out the hundreds / thousands of images showing artillery pieces, tanks, APCs and everything in between being blown up by lancets/ atillery/ tanks.

seen the footage of MASSIVE explosions caused by uko ammo dumps going up, theres explosions all over ukraine.

theres new footage of the ship sailing back undamaged.

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

yep. Plus it is also the nutters response to enquiries about their sources.

This.

a CHILD could find the proof on the internetz

check out the hundreds / thousands of images showing artillery pieces, tanks, APCs and everything in between being blown up by lancets/ atillery/ tanks.

seen the footage of MASSIVE explosions caused by uko ammo dumps going up, theres explosions all over ukraine.

theres new footage of the ship sailing back undamaged.

Don’t worry, we have. What you are seeing is something we haven’t. So please show your references.

and Boris is right yet again. Maybe I’m so good because I see fuckwits online every day and know their cowardly tactics.

:-)

JudgeMental said:

and Boris is right yet again. Maybe I’m so good because I see fuckwits online every day and know their cowardly tactics.

:-)

Who is this Boris chap and how do you know how he thinks?

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

yep. Plus it is also the nutters response to enquiries about their sources.

This.

a CHILD could find the proof on the internetz

check out the hundreds / thousands of images showing artillery pieces, tanks, APCs and everything in between being blown up by lancets/ atillery/ tanks.

seen the footage of MASSIVE explosions caused by uko ammo dumps going up, theres explosions all over ukraine.

theres new footage of the ship sailing back undamaged.

Splosions. Splosions. It’s all about the splosions, hey what but!!

They’ve even got a game for ya, Mr Wookiebabe.

Unlock Splosion Man, one of the most awesome games of all time. The full version of Splosion Man includes an unlockable premium dashboard theme, free gamerpics, and even avatar accessories! You’ve sploded the rest, now splode the best. Splosion Man has a fifty level single-player campaign and a separate fifty level multiplayer cooperative campaign. There are no refunds for this item. For more information, see www.xbox.com/live/accounts.

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i just see it as a mental disease these days.

whats uncanny is bezmenovs assertion that this was how it was going to be

we absorbed the mind virus of the soviet union and will collapse the same way as the soviet union. i mean who in the fuck takes in 1.5 million new people in the middle of a housing crisis? whats incredible is the people losing out, being turfed out their houses will keep voting for the very problem that put them in the street !

when the lights went out recently i was ok, my lights came back on after a minute and life went on – and you know what? those thousands of people sat in the dark won’t have learnt a thing. what happens when 1.5 million new people all requiring more power

the CSIRO
highest for multiple family households (20 kWh/day per household) followed by couples with children (17 kWh/day per household). lowest for those living in single person households (8 kWh/day per household) and group households (12 kWh/day per household).

right , right so 1 person in a house isn’t going to turn on a 3kwh air con, lights , washing machine, dish washer

worse case scenario

1.5 million single people will need 18 million kwh hours extra every day but of course we all know it will be more – what if they need the power of a night ? what if 1.5 million new people all want to use their power at the same time ? at the same time closing power stations

why mention this? because its all related – the same people pumping money into this war are the same people do damaging things. their stupid decisions in one field often point to stupid decisions in every other decision. should we have a refendum on immigration ?

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

This.

a CHILD could find the proof on the internetz

check out the hundreds / thousands of images showing artillery pieces, tanks, APCs and everything in between being blown up by lancets/ atillery/ tanks.

seen the footage of MASSIVE explosions caused by uko ammo dumps going up, theres explosions all over ukraine.

theres new footage of the ship sailing back undamaged.

Splosions. Splosions. It’s all about the splosions, hey what but!!

They’ve even got a game for ya, Mr Wookiebabe.

Unlock Splosion Man, one of the most awesome games of all time. The full version of Splosion Man includes an unlockable premium dashboard theme, free gamerpics, and even avatar accessories! You’ve sploded the rest, now splode the best. Splosion Man has a fifty level single-player campaign and a separate fifty level multiplayer cooperative campaign. There are no refunds for this item. For more information, see www.xbox.com/live/accounts.

Just click here

the regime you support is losing

me? i just dropped the baggage and embraced the truth – try it sometime , its exhilarating

can we have a referendum on who pays money to ukraine, trillion dollar military programmes, i’ll opt out of that one, you’ll be happy to be paying thousands of extra tax every year to buy things that don’t work and feed into wars no one wants to fight.

wookiemeister said:

i just see it as a mental disease these days.

whats uncanny is bezmenovs assertion that this was how it was going to be

we absorbed the mind virus of the soviet union and will collapse the same way as the soviet union. i mean who in the fuck takes in 1.5 million new people in the middle of a housing crisis? whats incredible is the people losing out, being turfed out their houses will keep voting for the very problem that put them in the street !

when the lights went out recently i was ok, my lights came back on after a minute and life went on – and you know what? those thousands of people sat in the dark won’t have learnt a thing. what happens when 1.5 million new people all requiring more power

the CSIRO
highest for multiple family households (20 kWh/day per household) followed by couples with children (17 kWh/day per household). lowest for those living in single person households (8 kWh/day per household) and group households (12 kWh/day per household).

right , right so 1 person in a house isn’t going to turn on a 3kwh air con, lights , washing machine, dish washer

worse case scenario

1.5 million single people will need 18 million kwh hours extra every day but of course we all know it will be more – what if they need the power of a night ? what if 1.5 million new people all want to use their power at the same time ? at the same time closing power stations

why mention this? because its all related – the same people pumping money into this war are the same people do damaging things. their stupid decisions in one field often point to stupid decisions in every other decision. should we have a refendum on immigration ?

Gwarsh!

wookiemeister said:

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

a CHILD could find the proof on the internetz

check out the hundreds / thousands of images showing artillery pieces, tanks, APCs and everything in between being blown up by lancets/ atillery/ tanks.

seen the footage of MASSIVE explosions caused by uko ammo dumps going up, theres explosions all over ukraine.

theres new footage of the ship sailing back undamaged.

Splosions. Splosions. It’s all about the splosions, hey what but!!

They’ve even got a game for ya, Mr Wookiebabe.

Unlock Splosion Man, one of the most awesome games of all time. The full version of Splosion Man includes an unlockable premium dashboard theme, free gamerpics, and even avatar accessories! You’ve sploded the rest, now splode the best. Splosion Man has a fifty level single-player campaign and a separate fifty level multiplayer cooperative campaign. There are no refunds for this item. For more information, see www.xbox.com/live/accounts.

Just click here

the regime you support is losing

me? i just dropped the baggage and embraced the truth – try it sometime , its exhilarating

can we have a referendum on who pays money to ukraine, trillion dollar military programmes, i’ll opt out of that one, you’ll be happy to be paying thousands of extra tax every year to buy things that don’t work and feed into wars no one wants to fight.

I think we know who is supplying Ukraine with its requirements.
UM, Who’s paying Putin then?

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

i just see it as a mental disease these days.

whats uncanny is bezmenovs assertion that this was how it was going to be

we absorbed the mind virus of the soviet union and will collapse the same way as the soviet union. i mean who in the fuck takes in 1.5 million new people in the middle of a housing crisis? whats incredible is the people losing out, being turfed out their houses will keep voting for the very problem that put them in the street !

when the lights went out recently i was ok, my lights came back on after a minute and life went on – and you know what? those thousands of people sat in the dark won’t have learnt a thing. what happens when 1.5 million new people all requiring more power

the CSIRO
highest for multiple family households (20 kWh/day per household) followed by couples with children (17 kWh/day per household). lowest for those living in single person households (8 kWh/day per household) and group households (12 kWh/day per household).

right , right so 1 person in a house isn’t going to turn on a 3kwh air con, lights , washing machine, dish washer

worse case scenario

1.5 million single people will need 18 million kwh hours extra every day but of course we all know it will be more – what if they need the power of a night ? what if 1.5 million new people all want to use their power at the same time ? at the same time closing power stations

why mention this? because its all related – the same people pumping money into this war are the same people do damaging things. their stupid decisions in one field often point to stupid decisions in every other decision. should we have a refendum on immigration ?

Gwarsh!

if only you were paying all your wages to the war roughie – you’d be happy to go hungry and homeless for the glory of ukraine.

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

Woodie said:

Splosions. Splosions. It’s all about the splosions, hey what but!!

They’ve even got a game for ya, Mr Wookiebabe.

Unlock Splosion Man, one of the most awesome games of all time. The full version of Splosion Man includes an unlockable premium dashboard theme, free gamerpics, and even avatar accessories! You’ve sploded the rest, now splode the best. Splosion Man has a fifty level single-player campaign and a separate fifty level multiplayer cooperative campaign. There are no refunds for this item. For more information, see www.xbox.com/live/accounts.

Just click here

the regime you support is losing

me? i just dropped the baggage and embraced the truth – try it sometime , its exhilarating

can we have a referendum on who pays money to ukraine, trillion dollar military programmes, i’ll opt out of that one, you’ll be happy to be paying thousands of extra tax every year to buy things that don’t work and feed into wars no one wants to fight.

I think we know who is supplying Ukraine with its requirements.
UM, Who’s paying Putin then?

we’ve just shipped over a billion dollars to this conflict (and most likely more – this is gulf war syndrome 3, more money down the drain to prop up a doomed conflict)

no doubt we are sending soldiers over there – i wonder if we’ll see footgage of them executing civillians again? the australian special forces were cutting the hands off dead taliban (you might know them – we fought them for 20 years and lost).

wookiemeister said:

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

a CHILD could find the proof on the internetz

check out the hundreds / thousands of images showing artillery pieces, tanks, APCs and everything in between being blown up by lancets/ atillery/ tanks.

seen the footage of MASSIVE explosions caused by uko ammo dumps going up, theres explosions all over ukraine.

theres new footage of the ship sailing back undamaged.

Splosions. Splosions. It’s all about the splosions, hey what but!!

They’ve even got a game for ya, Mr Wookiebabe.

Unlock Splosion Man, one of the most awesome games of all time. The full version of Splosion Man includes an unlockable premium dashboard theme, free gamerpics, and even avatar accessories! You’ve sploded the rest, now splode the best. Splosion Man has a fifty level single-player campaign and a separate fifty level multiplayer cooperative campaign. There are no refunds for this item. For more information, see www.xbox.com/live/accounts.

Just click here

the regime you support is losing

me? i just dropped the baggage and embraced the truth – try it sometime , its exhilarating

can we have a referendum on who pays money to ukraine, trillion dollar military programmes, i’ll opt out of that one, you’ll be happy to be paying thousands of extra tax every year to buy things that don’t work and feed into wars no one wants to fight.

And the authoritarian regime that decided to invade a neighbouring democracy and led to the deaths of over 100,000 soldiers and civilians on both sides is and has been receiving your full-throated support for the entirety of this war. I’m glad we can all agree on the morality of who supports who and what this means for the ethics we adhere to.

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

Woodie said:

Splosions. Splosions. It’s all about the splosions, hey what but!!

They’ve even got a game for ya, Mr Wookiebabe.

Unlock Splosion Man, one of the most awesome games of all time. The full version of Splosion Man includes an unlockable premium dashboard theme, free gamerpics, and even avatar accessories! You’ve sploded the rest, now splode the best. Splosion Man has a fifty level single-player campaign and a separate fifty level multiplayer cooperative campaign. There are no refunds for this item. For more information, see www.xbox.com/live/accounts.

Just click here

the regime you support is losing

me? i just dropped the baggage and embraced the truth – try it sometime , its exhilarating

can we have a referendum on who pays money to ukraine, trillion dollar military programmes, i’ll opt out of that one, you’ll be happy to be paying thousands of extra tax every year to buy things that don’t work and feed into wars no one wants to fight.

And the authoritarian regime that decided to invade a neighbouring democracy and led to the deaths of over 100,000 soldiers and civilians on both sides is and has been receiving your full-throated support for the entirety of this war. I’m glad we can all agree on the morality of who supports who and what this means for the ethics we adhere to.

more money down the drain witty. NATO expanded eastwards, tore up the treaties with russia then shelled the donbass for 8 years.

anyway what are you complaining about, australia will support ukraine all the way to our destruction, cities smashed into matchsticks, even now , probably right now money is being transferred into ukrainian bank accounts, ammunition, shells, APCs are being shipped out. i can’t do anything about it, its one man saying hey – this is stupid. even the Greens love war because it killing russians (they are white).

i’m one person saying hey this is stupid , dangerous and self harming, what does it matter?

we couldn’t win a war against 14 year old boys with 30 year old AK47s – i’m sure we’ll be fine fighting a military super power that MAKES all their equipment from satellites, ICBMS, hypersonic missiles , is making trillions selling oil, gas, minerals, selling weapons, jet fighters.

i’m one person saying you are wrong, don’t get your knickers in a twist, its fine, you’ve won.

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

i just see it as a mental disease these days.

whats uncanny is bezmenovs assertion that this was how it was going to be

we absorbed the mind virus of the soviet union and will collapse the same way as the soviet union. i mean who in the fuck takes in 1.5 million new people in the middle of a housing crisis? whats incredible is the people losing out, being turfed out their houses will keep voting for the very problem that put them in the street !

when the lights went out recently i was ok, my lights came back on after a minute and life went on – and you know what? those thousands of people sat in the dark won’t have learnt a thing. what happens when 1.5 million new people all requiring more power

the CSIRO
highest for multiple family households (20 kWh/day per household) followed by couples with children (17 kWh/day per household). lowest for those living in single person households (8 kWh/day per household) and group households (12 kWh/day per household).

right , right so 1 person in a house isn’t going to turn on a 3kwh air con, lights , washing machine, dish washer

worse case scenario

1.5 million single people will need 18 million kwh hours extra every day but of course we all know it will be more – what if they need the power of a night ? what if 1.5 million new people all want to use their power at the same time ? at the same time closing power stations

why mention this? because its all related – the same people pumping money into this war are the same people do damaging things. their stupid decisions in one field often point to stupid decisions in every other decision. should we have a refendum on immigration ?

Gwarsh!

if only you were paying all your wages to the war roughie – you’d be happy to go hungry and homeless for the glory of ukraine.

I pay all my wages to peace. I have no desire for war at all.

wookiemeister said:

more money down the drain witty. NATO expanded eastwards, tore up the treaties with russia then shelled the donbass for 8 years.

Since when did this happen? Where are the references?

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

more money down the drain witty. NATO expanded eastwards, tore up the treaties with russia then shelled the donbass for 8 years.

Since when did this happen? Where are the references?

ohhh roughie

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

Gwarsh!

if only you were paying all your wages to the war roughie – you’d be happy to go hungry and homeless for the glory of ukraine.

I pay all my wages to peace. I have no desire for war at all.

you support the war, i don’t.

what does it matter?

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

the regime you support is losing

me? i just dropped the baggage and embraced the truth – try it sometime , its exhilarating

can we have a referendum on who pays money to ukraine, trillion dollar military programmes, i’ll opt out of that one, you’ll be happy to be paying thousands of extra tax every year to buy things that don’t work and feed into wars no one wants to fight.

And the authoritarian regime that decided to invade a neighbouring democracy and led to the deaths of over 100,000 soldiers and civilians on both sides is and has been receiving your full-throated support for the entirety of this war. I’m glad we can all agree on the morality of who supports who and what this means for the ethics we adhere to.

more money down the drain witty. NATO expanded eastwards, tore up the treaties with russia then shelled the donbass for 8 years.

anyway what are you complaining about, australia will support ukraine all the way to our destruction, cities smashed into matchsticks, even now , probably right now money is being transferred into ukrainian bank accounts, ammunition, shells, APCs are being shipped out. i can’t do anything about it, its one man saying hey – this is stupid. even the Greens love war because it killing russians (they are white).

i’m one person saying hey this is stupid , dangerous and self harming, what does it matter?

we couldn’t win a war against 14 year old boys with 30 year old AK47s – i’m sure we’ll be fine fighting a military super power that MAKES all their equipment from satellites, ICBMS, hypersonic missiles , is making trillions selling oil, gas, minerals, selling weapons, jet fighters.

i’m one person saying you are wrong, don’t get your knickers in a twist, its fine, you’ve won.

You never admit you support Putin because you’re embarrassed about what this says of your character.

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

if only you were paying all your wages to the war roughie – you’d be happy to go hungry and homeless for the glory of ukraine.

I pay all my wages to peace. I have no desire for war at all.

you support the war, i don’t.

what does it matter?

You support the Russian side.

I know these videos wont be for everyone, but this is one of the most…. I dunno, just one of the “most” videos to come out of the Ukraine war so far.

(Dead bodies, people getting wounded etc, NOT SAFE FOR WORK.)

Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!

Face to face with the enemy: trench battles of the 3rd SAB for the “road of life” to Bakhmut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LulaA-U7-M

We are publishing a full video of the assault on Russian positions near the “road of life” to Bakhmut, carried out by fighters of the Third Separate Assault Brigade. The military called highway T0504, from Chasovoy Yar through Khromovo to Bakhmut, “the road of life”. The last paved road, which can be used to deliver ammunition, provisions to the defenders of the fortress city, send reinforcements and evacuate wounded and dead soldiers.

In the course of a combat mission, the attack aircraft of the 3rd OShBr enter an enemy trench and, with the support of drones, carry out a sweep under enemy artillery fire, destroying the occupiers at a distance of several meters. The video footage shows the incredible courage and fortitude of Ukrainian soldiers. Competent actions of the commander, coordinated work of the group, desperation, courage, ingenuity and initiative of each of the fighters, and most importantly – high motivation to beat the enemy on Ukrainian soil.

As a result of the successful combat operation, 30 occupiers were eliminated. The 3rd OShBr pushed the Russians away from the “road of life”, making it impossible to maintain the route under enemy fire control.
For courage and heroism, eight soldiers of the 3rd company of the 1st assault battalion of the 3rd OSHbr were awarded the badges of honor of the commander of the Ground Forces of Ukraine and presented for state awards.

Ok, i have some problems with recently released video and images of the Russian warship Ivan Khurs’ return to port in Sebastopol.

1. On this webpage, dated 27 May 2023:

https://www.agenzianova.com/en/news/ivan-khurs-ship-undamaged-port-sevastopol/

we can see images and video of the Ivan Khurs mooring stern-on to the wharf (‘Mediterranean style’). Here’s the still photo:

The video is now being rather shitful about loading on my PC, but it does show the same scene as in the still photo. While the ship’s name has been painted out, it is the Ivan Khurs, and there is clearly no damage to the port quarter (the back end) where the drone video shows contact was made.

2. On this reddit page, also dated 27 May 2023, it’s indicated that the Ivan Khurs is moored alongside the wharf in Sebastopol. Impossible to determine whether or not it’s damaged from that image which is shown here:

3.According the reddit poster, that satellite image bears a remarkable resemblance to the Ivan Khurs image of 24 Apr 2023:

4.Now let’s look again at the still photo of the Ivan Khurs coming in to the wharf, allegedly on 26 or 27 May 2023. In particular, let’s look at the grey warship which moored to starboard (over the far side) of the Ivan Khurs.

It took me a while to get a good i.d. on that ship, but i finally picked it a being the old Kashin-class large ASW ship ‘Smetlivy’. It can be identified by the ‘Peel Group’ and ‘Owl Screech’ fire control radars visible in the photo, by the twin SA-N-1 anti-aircraft missile launcher in front of the Owl Screech radar, and by the siting of the RBU-600 anti-submarine mortars (the odd grey barrel-shaped thing just behind the Owl Screech radar), and by the superstructure shape.

‘Smetlivy’ was decommissioned in 2020, and is now a museum ship. It’s unlikely that a museum ship would be maintained in a n active naval dockyard, but i suppose that it’s possible, so we’ll go along (for the moment) with the notion that the Ivan Khurs is moored with Smetlivy to starboard ( to the right).

5. But, let’s look again at the satellite image, also allegedly from 27 or maybe 26 May 2023.

The vessel labelled as Ivan Khurs has to its right a vessel which is considerably shorter in length than is Ivan Khurs.

Ivan Khurs is 95 metres / 311ft 8in long.

Smetlivy is 144 metres / 472ft 4in long.

So, where is the Ivan Khurs, really, and what (if anything) is moored to starboard of it?

Forgot to provide the address of the reddit page:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/13sp3w5/ua_pov_ivan_khurs_back_in_sevastopol_port/

captain_spalding said:

Forgot to provide the address of the reddit page:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/13sp3w5/ua_pov_ivan_khurs_back_in_sevastopol_port/

Requires a log in Captain.

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Forgot to provide the address of the reddit page:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/13sp3w5/ua_pov_ivan_khurs_back_in_sevastopol_port/

Requires a log in Captain.

Of course. Apologies, i’d forgotten that.

But, i post here a snip from the reddit account:

As you can see, the pro-Ukrainian poster has re-posted the item which was put up by BSF: Sevastopol (BSF being the Russian Black Sea Fleet).

So, it’s the Russians saying ‘see, here’s the Ivan Khurs, safe and sound in Sevastopol with this much short ship to its right’.

‘…much shorter ship…’

captain_spalding said:

Ok, i have some problems with recently released video and images of the Russian warship Ivan Khurs’ return to port in Sebastopol.

1. On this webpage, dated 27 May 2023:

https://www.agenzianova.com/en/news/ivan-khurs-ship-undamaged-port-sevastopol/

we can see images and video of the Ivan Khurs mooring stern-on to the wharf (‘Mediterranean style’). Here’s the still photo:

The video is now being rather shitful about loading on my PC, but it does show the same scene as in the still photo. While the ship’s name has been painted out, it is the Ivan Khurs, and there is clearly no damage to the port quarter (the back end) where the drone video shows contact was made.

2. On this reddit page, also dated 27 May 2023, it’s indicated that the Ivan Khurs is moored alongside the wharf in Sebastopol. Impossible to determine whether or not it’s damaged from that image which is shown here:

3.According the reddit poster, that satellite image bears a remarkable resemblance to the Ivan Khurs image of 24 Apr 2023:

4.Now let’s look again at the still photo of the Ivan Khurs coming in to the wharf, allegedly on 26 or 27 May 2023. In particular, let’s look at the grey warship which moored to starboard (over the far side) of the Ivan Khurs.

It took me a while to get a good i.d. on that ship, but i finally picked it a being the old Kashin-class large ASW ship ‘Smetlivy’. It can be identified by the ‘Peel Group’ and ‘Owl Screech’ fire control radars visible in the photo, by the twin SA-N-1 anti-aircraft missile launcher in front of the Owl Screech radar, and by the siting of the RBU-600 anti-submarine mortars (the odd grey barrel-shaped thing just behind the Owl Screech radar), and by the superstructure shape.

‘Smetlivy’ was decommissioned in 2020, and is now a museum ship. It’s unlikely that a museum ship would be maintained in a n active naval dockyard, but i suppose that it’s possible, so we’ll go along (for the moment) with the notion that the Ivan Khurs is moored with Smetlivy to starboard ( to the right).

5. But, let’s look again at the satellite image, also allegedly from 27 or maybe 26 May 2023.

The vessel labelled as Ivan Khurs has to its right a vessel which is considerably shorter in length than is Ivan Khurs.

Ivan Khurs is 95 metres / 311ft 8in long.

Smetlivy is 144 metres / 472ft 4in long.

So, where is the Ivan Khurs, really, and what (if anything) is moored to starboard of it?

perhaps the drone comms were disabled at close range with jamming, or fried, possible even a downlink looking up might be

transition said:

perhaps the drone comms were disabled at close range with jamming, or fried, possible even a downlink looking up might be

Yet it continued to send video right up until it was alongside the ship.

Although it is possible that the radio link to the detonator was disrupted. Still, you’d thin that there might be a backup, a contact initiator or a magnetic anomaly trigger of some sort.

esselte said:

I know these videos wont be for everyone, but this is one of the most…. I dunno, just one of the “most” videos to come out of the Ukraine war so far.

(Dead bodies, people getting wounded etc, NOT SAFE FOR WORK.)

Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!

Face to face with the enemy: trench battles of the 3rd SAB for the “road of life” to Bakhmut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LulaA-U7-M

We are publishing a full video of the assault on Russian positions near the “road of life” to Bakhmut, carried out by fighters of the Third Separate Assault Brigade. The military called highway T0504, from Chasovoy Yar through Khromovo to Bakhmut, “the road of life”. The last paved road, which can be used to deliver ammunition, provisions to the defenders of the fortress city, send reinforcements and evacuate wounded and dead soldiers.

In the course of a combat mission, the attack aircraft of the 3rd OShBr enter an enemy trench and, with the support of drones, carry out a sweep under enemy artillery fire, destroying the occupiers at a distance of several meters. The video footage shows the incredible courage and fortitude of Ukrainian soldiers. Competent actions of the commander, coordinated work of the group, desperation, courage, ingenuity and initiative of each of the fighters, and most importantly – high motivation to beat the enemy on Ukrainian soil.

As a result of the successful combat operation, 30 occupiers were eliminated. The 3rd OShBr pushed the Russians away from the “road of life”, making it impossible to maintain the route under enemy fire control.
For courage and heroism, eight soldiers of the 3rd company of the 1st assault battalion of the 3rd OSHbr were awarded the badges of honor of the commander of the Ground Forces of Ukraine and presented for state awards.

It’s the dirtiest, most brutal, most degrading, most obscene business there is. Imagine living like that every day.

This is why you’ll often hear it said of returned soldiers that ‘they never talked about it’. If you’d done these things, would you tell your kids or your wife or your partner about it?

When the cold weather set in over there, and the pace of movement slowed down, i feared that trench warfare might develop, but people said no, not likely. And what do we see here? The very environment that makes animals out of men and which reduces all of them, on both sides, to the lowest levels people can reach.

Will someone just shoot Putin, for Christ’s sake?

Thanks for that Esselte.

captain_spalding said:

transition said:

perhaps the drone comms were disabled at close range with jamming, or fried, possible even a downlink looking up might be

Yet it continued to send video right up until it was alongside the ship.

Although it is possible that the radio link to the detonator was disrupted. Still, you’d thin that there might be a backup, a contact initiator or a magnetic anomaly trigger of some sort.

an uplink is more resistant to jamming, because it is the TX output, and downlink though involves an RX front-end, which even when variously hardened is more susceptible

TX is in the watts range, RX is in the uW range

transition said:

captain_spalding said:

transition said:

perhaps the drone comms were disabled at close range with jamming, or fried, possible even a downlink looking up might be

Yet it continued to send video right up until it was alongside the ship.

Although it is possible that the radio link to the detonator was disrupted. Still, you’d thin that there might be a backup, a contact initiator or a magnetic anomaly trigger of some sort.

an uplink is more resistant to jamming, because it is the TX output, and downlink though involves an RX front-end, which even when variously hardened is more susceptible

TX is in the watts range, RX is in the uW range

or uV range(microvolt), I should say, of RX input

transition said:

transition said:

captain_spalding said:

Yet it continued to send video right up until it was alongside the ship.

Although it is possible that the radio link to the detonator was disrupted. Still, you’d thin that there might be a backup, a contact initiator or a magnetic anomaly trigger of some sort.

an uplink is more resistant to jamming, because it is the TX output, and downlink though involves an RX front-end, which even when variously hardened is more susceptible

TX is in the watts range, RX is in the uW range

or uV range(microvolt), I should say, of RX input

even fractions of uV

captain_spalding said:

transition said:

perhaps the drone comms were disabled at close range with jamming, or fried, possible even a downlink looking up might be

Yet it continued to send video right up until it was alongside the ship.

Although it is possible that the radio link to the detonator was disrupted. Still, you’d thin that there might be a backup, a contact initiator or a magnetic anomaly trigger of some sort.

would imagine they have contact detonating, like their kamikaze drones.

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

And the authoritarian regime that decided to invade a neighbouring democracy and led to the deaths of over 100,000 soldiers and civilians on both sides is and has been receiving your full-throated support for the entirety of this war. I’m glad we can all agree on the morality of who supports who and what this means for the ethics we adhere to.

more money down the drain witty. NATO expanded eastwards, tore up the treaties with russia then shelled the donbass for 8 years.

anyway what are you complaining about, australia will support ukraine all the way to our destruction, cities smashed into matchsticks, even now , probably right now money is being transferred into ukrainian bank accounts, ammunition, shells, APCs are being shipped out. i can’t do anything about it, its one man saying hey – this is stupid. even the Greens love war because it killing russians (they are white).

i’m one person saying hey this is stupid , dangerous and self harming, what does it matter?

we couldn’t win a war against 14 year old boys with 30 year old AK47s – i’m sure we’ll be fine fighting a military super power that MAKES all their equipment from satellites, ICBMS, hypersonic missiles , is making trillions selling oil, gas, minerals, selling weapons, jet fighters.

i’m one person saying you are wrong, don’t get your knickers in a twist, its fine, you’ve won.

You never admit you support Putin because you’re embarrassed about what this says of your character.

I’m saying I’m sick of this shit
We’ve been at war for 30 years

The truth shall set you free.

If a subset of yank think tanks and senators have been fuelling this , creating this conflict they need to be in jail.

Howard’s head would be on the chopping block if I head my way , along with Blair and bush.

You want to start fake war – you go to jail. Potentially you’d only be looking at perhaps 1000 people, the movers and shakers of the war industry

Maybe you need a purge of the american establishment.

Remove ALL war pigs from government, fine them, jail them

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

more money down the drain witty. NATO expanded eastwards, tore up the treaties with russia then shelled the donbass for 8 years.

anyway what are you complaining about, australia will support ukraine all the way to our destruction, cities smashed into matchsticks, even now , probably right now money is being transferred into ukrainian bank accounts, ammunition, shells, APCs are being shipped out. i can’t do anything about it, its one man saying hey – this is stupid. even the Greens love war because it killing russians (they are white).

i’m one person saying hey this is stupid , dangerous and self harming, what does it matter?

we couldn’t win a war against 14 year old boys with 30 year old AK47s – i’m sure we’ll be fine fighting a military super power that MAKES all their equipment from satellites, ICBMS, hypersonic missiles , is making trillions selling oil, gas, minerals, selling weapons, jet fighters.

i’m one person saying you are wrong, don’t get your knickers in a twist, its fine, you’ve won.

You never admit you support Putin because you’re embarrassed about what this says of your character.

I’m saying I’m sick of this shit
We’ve been at war for 30 years

The truth shall set you free.

If a subset of yank think tanks and senators have been fuelling this , creating this conflict they need to be in jail.

Howard’s head would be on the chopping block if I head my way , along with Blair and bush.

You want to start fake war – you go to jail. Potentially you’d only be looking at perhaps 1000 people, the movers and shakers of the war industry

It’s a simple question: Do you support Putin and Russia or not?

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You never admit you support Putin because you’re embarrassed about what this says of your character.

I’m saying I’m sick of this shit
We’ve been at war for 30 years

The truth shall set you free.

If a subset of yank think tanks and senators have been fuelling this , creating this conflict they need to be in jail.

Howard’s head would be on the chopping block if I head my way , along with Blair and bush.

You want to start fake war – you go to jail. Potentially you’d only be looking at perhaps 1000 people, the movers and shakers of the war industry

It’s a simple question: Do you support Putin and Russia or not?

Live in hope…

you’ll just get lies and obfuscation. No refs. do your own research. cooker stuff.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

wookiemeister said:

Massive drone attacks against infrastructure, ammo dumps continue

The ukos have been bombing hospitals for ages, the russians hit a Ukrainian hospital full of injured soldiers – it’s a smoking wreck.

Some Ukrainian commander has just been shot by a company commander to stop a suicidal attack against russian forces.

Other pages show tonnes of lancet drone attacks , the m777 artillery piece seems popular.

Pravda is always good for a laugh.

Pravda, (Russian: “Truth”) newspaper that was the official organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union from 1918 to 1991. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, numerous publications and Web sites continued under the Pravda name.

In 1996, there was an internal dispute between the owners of Pravda International and some of the Pravda journalists which led to Pravda splitting into different entities. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation acquired the Pravda paper, while some of the original Soviet Pravda journalists separated to form Russia’s first online paper Pravda Online (now Pravda.ru), which is not connected to the Communist Party. After a legal dispute between the rival parties, the Russian court of arbitration stipulated that both entities would be allowed to continue using the Pravda name.

The Pravda paper is today run by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, whereas the online Pravda.ru is privately owned and has international editions published in Russian, English, French and Portuguese. Wiki

Putin’s private army should be listed as terrorists: opposition

The federal opposition has called for the Albanese government to list Vladimir Putin’s private army as a terrorist organisation, which would make it a criminal offence to be a member.

British media have reported the United Kingdom is days away from announcing a decision to list Wagner as a terror group, while France’s parliament has called on the European Union to do the same. The United States has already designated Wagner as a “significant transnational criminal organisation” and placed sanctions on the mercenary group.

more…

Tau.Neutrino said:

Putin’s private army should be listed as terrorists: opposition

The federal opposition has called for the Albanese government to list Vladimir Putin’s private army as a terrorist organisation, which would make it a criminal offence to be a member.

British media have reported the United Kingdom is days away from announcing a decision to list Wagner as a terror group, while France’s parliament has called on the European Union to do the same. The United States has already designated Wagner as a “significant transnational criminal organisation” and placed sanctions on the mercenary group.

more…

Stick your head between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye.

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You never admit you support Putin because you’re embarrassed about what this says of your character.

I’m saying I’m sick of this shit
We’ve been at war for 30 years

The truth shall set you free.

If a subset of yank think tanks and senators have been fuelling this , creating this conflict they need to be in jail.

Howard’s head would be on the chopping block if I head my way , along with Blair and bush.

You want to start fake war – you go to jail. Potentially you’d only be looking at perhaps 1000 people, the movers and shakers of the war industry

It’s a simple question: Do you support Putin and Russia or not?

I can empathise as why russia is doing this, men marching around with swastikas – zero empathy. It’s another war on the otherside of the planet – stop feeding money and weapons into the conflict and it goes away. I don’t support anyone , I don’t know putin personally. What I do know is this another artificial conflict that requires billions / trillions to be spent providing bad people weapons.

Victoria nuland is one of the architects of the war, her grandfather was from the conflict zone, suffered some tragedy there, this affected the son who then transferred the hate of imperial Russia on to the daughter. Practically all these characters that have starred these conflicts have a Jewish background, there’s bad blood there I’m afraid , they are killing two birds with one stone, get russians and Ukrainians to kill each other. Win win.

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

I’m saying I’m sick of this shit
We’ve been at war for 30 years

The truth shall set you free.

If a subset of yank think tanks and senators have been fuelling this , creating this conflict they need to be in jail.

Howard’s head would be on the chopping block if I head my way , along with Blair and bush.

You want to start fake war – you go to jail. Potentially you’d only be looking at perhaps 1000 people, the movers and shakers of the war industry

It’s a simple question: Do you support Putin and Russia or not?

I can empathise as why russia is doing this, men marching around with swastikas – zero empathy. It’s another war on the otherside of the planet – stop feeding money and weapons into the conflict and it goes away. I don’t support anyone , I don’t know putin personally. What I do know is this another artificial conflict that requires billions / trillions to be spent providing bad people weapons.

Victoria nuland is one of the architects of the war, her grandfather was from the conflict zone, suffered some tragedy there, this affected the son who then transferred the hate of imperial Russia on to the daughter. Practically all these characters that have starred these conflicts have a Jewish background, there’s bad blood there I’m afraid , they are killing two birds with one stone, get russians and Ukrainians to kill each other. Win win.

Simple question: Stupid answer.

The start of the conflict starts in 1991

The collapse of the soviet union and American soldiers being pumped into the middle east to kill Arabs

From my time on Israel I discovered the greater Israel project. The old testament has the Abraham’s God giving all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates to Abraham’s descendants. As I was told by the orthodox Jews of the west bank , the world of the future is there are two types of people, Jews and non Jews. The non Jews basically live a life of enslavement , they can be killed by anything as trivial as waking a jew from sleep. Rather than reading any conspiracy novel it was all laid out for me straight from the horses mouth. Abraham ( someone passing through until he could collect enough money to get out) told me that the whole place was going to go up in a big mushroom cloud. They believe they are a master race.

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

It’s a simple question: Do you support Putin and Russia or not?

I can empathise as why russia is doing this, men marching around with swastikas – zero empathy. It’s another war on the otherside of the planet – stop feeding money and weapons into the conflict and it goes away. I don’t support anyone , I don’t know putin personally. What I do know is this another artificial conflict that requires billions / trillions to be spent providing bad people weapons.

Victoria nuland is one of the architects of the war, her grandfather was from the conflict zone, suffered some tragedy there, this affected the son who then transferred the hate of imperial Russia on to the daughter. Practically all these characters that have starred these conflicts have a Jewish background, there’s bad blood there I’m afraid , they are killing two birds with one stone, get russians and Ukrainians to kill each other. Win win.

Simple question: Stupid answer.

Not my problem bubbles.

Ukraine is being turned into matchsticks – you’ve provoked something much bigger and made it angry, God help you now.

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

I can empathise as why russia is doing this, men marching around with swastikas – zero empathy. It’s another war on the otherside of the planet – stop feeding money and weapons into the conflict and it goes away. I don’t support anyone , I don’t know putin personally. What I do know is this another artificial conflict that requires billions / trillions to be spent providing bad people weapons.

Victoria nuland is one of the architects of the war, her grandfather was from the conflict zone, suffered some tragedy there, this affected the son who then transferred the hate of imperial Russia on to the daughter. Practically all these characters that have starred these conflicts have a Jewish background, there’s bad blood there I’m afraid , they are killing two birds with one stone, get russians and Ukrainians to kill each other. Win win.

Simple question: Stupid answer.

Not my problem bubbles.

Ukraine is being turned into matchsticks – you’ve provoked something much bigger and made it angry, God help you now.

I’m not Bubblecar. I’m a totally other person who wants to kill you. I suppose we can blame all your stupidity on anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. The circle of life is complete.

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Simple question: Stupid answer.

Not my problem bubbles.

Ukraine is being turned into matchsticks – you’ve provoked something much bigger and made it angry, God help you now.

I’m not Bubblecar. I’m a totally other person who wants to kill you. I suppose we can blame all your stupidity on anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. The circle of life is complete.

Its not anti Semitic – a Semite is anyone from the middle east, Judaism is a religion followed one of the semetic groups.

Its not a conspiracy they basically told me what they believed, I didn’t know much about them until I went over there. It’s just another religious group that wants to kill everyone / enslave them. The Muslims have a similar view of non Muslims. If you didn’t convert they would kill you. The only reason Europe wasn’t Muslim until a few decades ago was they were stopped at Vienna i think.

I’m fairly familiar with lunatics, they have similar outlooks. When you stop giving the lunatics weapons and money all the conflicts stop.

At any rate all those nazis are getting smashed

People only see what they want to see.

Air raid alarm in Kiev City and Region as well as Kharkov and Ukrainian controlled parts of DPR.

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
💥 Strong explosion reported in Kiev

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
💥 Repeated explosions in Kiev

Ukrainian sources report air defense is active

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
Several missiles reported over Kiev. Air Defense is operating.

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
💥 Powerful explosions reported in Central Kiev

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
🆘 11:27 Local

❗️ Ukrainian sources report on a ballistic missile strike on Kiev

@DDgeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
💥 Explosions reported in Sumy region, more strong explosions reported in central districts of Kiev

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,

Sky over Kiev as AD tries to cope with the missile strike

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
Klitschko is talking about falling debris again as around 12 explosions thundered in Kiev in about 3 minutes.

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,

🔈💥 Sounds of explosions in Kiev.

Remember that Ukrainians are forbidden to film and all content is censored (that’s why the black background)

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
In Kiev apparently Patriot air defense systems near Zhuliany airport and drone launch bases were targeted according to Archangel of the Special Forces (https://t.me/rusich_army/9072).

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
AD debris on the streets of Kiev

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
🔈💥 Explosions in Kiev

Video is censored that’s why it’s blacked out

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
❗️ “Air targets towards the Ternopol region” – Ukrainian channels.

They also add that the strikes are delivered by unknown missiles.

Donbass Devushka,
🆘 11:50 Local

Air raid threat has moved to the western parts of Ukraine

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,

Sky over Kiev as explosions thunder in the city.

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,

🔈💥 More sounds of explosions in Kiev

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,

Kiev metro at the moment

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,

Ukrainians threatening people who film the work of AD or explosions.

Via: @ukraina_ru

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
❗️ The speaker of the Air Force of Ukraine, Yuriy Ignat, said that the missiles that attacked Kiev flew along a ballistic trajectory.

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine believes that these could be Iskander-M complexes.

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
🆘 12:28 Local

Air raid over Kiev and the rest of Ukraine is over for now.

❗️ There is still some chatter about possible “Kalibr” launches from the Black Sea

We will keep you updated if that happens

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
🆘 11:13 Local

Air raid alarm in Kiev City and Region as well as Kharkov and Ukrainian controlled parts of DPR.

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
💥 Strong explosion reported in Kiev

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
💥 Repeated explosions in Kiev

Ukrainian sources report air defense is active

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
Several missiles reported over Kiev. Air Defense is operating.

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
💥 Powerful explosions reported in Central Kiev

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
🆘 11:27 Local

❗️ Ukrainian sources report on a ballistic missile strike on Kiev

@DDgeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
💥 Explosions reported in Sumy region, more strong explosions reported in central districts of Kiev

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,

Sky over Kiev as AD tries to cope with the missile strike

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
Klitschko is talking about falling debris again as around 12 explosions thundered in Kiev in about 3 minutes.

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,

🔈💥 Sounds of explosions in Kiev.

Remember that Ukrainians are forbidden to film and all content is censored (that’s why the black background)

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
In Kiev apparently Patriot air defense systems near Zhuliany airport and drone launch bases were targeted according to Archangel of the Special Forces (https://t.me/rusich_army/9072).

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
AD debris on the streets of Kiev

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
🔈💥 Explosions in Kiev

Video is censored that’s why it’s blacked out

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
❗️ “Air targets towards the Ternopol region” – Ukrainian channels.

They also add that the strikes are delivered by unknown missiles.

Donbass Devushka,
🆘 11:50 Local

Air raid threat has moved to the western parts of Ukraine

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,

Sky over Kiev as explosions thunder in the city.

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,

🔈💥 More sounds of explosions in Kiev

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,

Kiev metro at the moment

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,

Ukrainians threatening people who film the work of AD or explosions.

Via: @ukraina_ru

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
❗️ The speaker of the Air Force of Ukraine, Yuriy Ignat, said that the missiles that attacked Kiev flew along a ballistic trajectory.

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine believes that these could be Iskander-M complexes.

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
🆘 12:28 Local

Air raid over Kiev and the rest of Ukraine is over for now.

❗️ There is still some chatter about possible “Kalibr” launches from the Black Sea

@DDGeopolitics

Donbass Devushka,
🇷🇺🚀🇺🇦All missiles that took part in today’s attack on the capital were shot down, according to the Kiev military administration

As a result of falling debris, there is no critical damage, information about the victims is being specified.

Kiev military administration also announces a change in the tactics of shelling Kiev.

“The enemy changed tactics – after long-term attacks exclusively at night, he struck at a peaceful city during the day, when most residents were at work and on the streets,” Popko, the head of the administration, said.

This is the sixteenth attack on Kiev since the beginning of the month.

“Russian strategic aviation launched an attack. The first estimates say that about 60 Ḫ-101 rockets were launched.

✖️At 00:10, air defense began to operate in the Kyiv zone ✖️00:12h Ukrainian resources call on citizens not to share materials of air defense operations on social networks ✖️00:13 a.m. In the city of Kyiv, the Ukrainian Air Defense Forces entered into a fight with operational-tactical kamikaze drones “Geran” ✖️00:16h Air defense is operating in v/p Nikolajeva ✖️00:18h The first strong explosions rocked Kyiv and Nikolaev. It is not known for sure whether it is an air defense or a KR/BPL strike. ✖️00:19h “Gerani” appeared in v/p Chernigov ✖️00:19h Alarms sounded in all major cities ✖️00:21 Ukrainian media released recordings where the characteristic sound of BPL “Geran” can be heard. PVO does not work. ✖️00:23h Air danger declared in northern, central and southern parts of Ukraine ✖️00:25h admin’s comment: it seems that the “Gerani” are looking for targets and feeling the pulse of the uk. air defense There are certainly also aerial baits. ✖️00:27 there is no important information for now. ✖️00:29h 🫡 If you come across any relevant information, put it in the comments ✖️00:30h Reported “Gerani” in the v/p of Odesa and Rovno ✖️00:31h Metro closed in Kyiv. People can’t go home. A fight broke out at some stations. 🔥 00:32h It seems that “Geran” managed to feel something in Zhytomyr. The explosion shook the city. Russian sources say a warehouse with weapons. We’ll see. 🔥 12:34 a.m. Wave of explosions in Kyiv region. There is no more precise data. ✖️00:35h Larger formation bpl “Geran” is moving towards the border with Ukraine ✖️ 12:35 a.m. Alert for v. danger in Sumska and Kirovgrad region 🔥 00:38 an explosion in Kiev. Unknown object hit whichis in flames. ✖️ 12:39 a.m. A colleague named Paja wrote in the comments that drones are flying from the south towards the Vinica region ✖️ 00:40 was right. Right now, the PVO is operating in the Vinica region. ⚠️ 00:41 Ukr. the media with the label “urgent” wrote that a large number of KR are making a maneuver north of Kyiv and turning towards the city 🔥 12:43 a.m. The party is starting in Izgeda. Wave eq ✖️00:45h Air defense in Odessa is operating. Combat with “Geran” drones “ (Lord of War)

“Russian Foreign Ministry reminds conditions for peace

📝 “Ukraine must return to the neutral non-bloc, non-NATO status, as enshrined in its 1990 declaration of state sovereignty,” Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Galuzin said.

Also, according to the diplomat, it is necessary to stop combat operations by the AFU and deliveries of Western weapons to Kiev.”

“An interesting observation on the explosions in Zhytomyr.

1) Drones “Geran-2” began to fly deep into the protected area above the military units, where air defense is deployed. This means that the tactics of their use have changed – the Ukrainian air defense is working worse and worse, despite the sending of more and more weapons.

2) Judging by the observations and information from local residents, the Geran-2 drone dived onto the object, making a semicircle. This suggests that the software for setting up the flight task has been significantly improved. Now drone operators can put in the guidance block “the preferred option for hitting the target.”

3) Judging by what kind of explosion was in Zhytomyr, “Geran-2” is equipped with an enlarged warhead. If you measure it with an explosion, then it is about 15-20 kg.

4) Refinement of “mopeds” allows you to make them cheaper, more accurate, more powerful and more efficient in use. Which will definitely make it possible to increase efficiency during massive missile strikes with the opening of enemy air defenses.” (Masno)

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

I’m saying I’m sick of this shit
We’ve been at war for 30 years

The truth shall set you free.

If a subset of yank think tanks and senators have been fuelling this , creating this conflict they need to be in jail.

Howard’s head would be on the chopping block if I head my way , along with Blair and bush.

You want to start fake war – you go to jail. Potentially you’d only be looking at perhaps 1000 people, the movers and shakers of the war industry

It’s a simple question: Do you support Putin and Russia or not?

I can empathise as why russia is doing this, men marching around with swastikas – zero empathy. It’s another war on the otherside of the planet – stop feeding money and weapons into the conflict and it goes away. I don’t support anyone , I don’t know putin personally. What I do know is this another artificial conflict that requires billions / trillions to be spent providing bad people weapons.

Victoria nuland is one of the architects of the war, her grandfather was from the conflict zone, suffered some tragedy there, this affected the son who then transferred the hate of imperial Russia on to the daughter. Practically all these characters that have starred these conflicts have a Jewish background, there’s bad blood there I’m afraid , they are killing two birds with one stone, get russians and Ukrainians to kill each other. Win win.

I think there are a complex interplay of issues going on. Not the least the anger and rage Putin has for the way his city was under siege by the Nazis, with a million people dying of starvation, and the way his family was treated by the Nazis when he was growing up.

https://www.pacesconnection.com/blog/how-vladimir-putin-s-childhood-is-affecting-us-all

DoublePostingResumeWriter said:

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

It’s a simple question: Do you support Putin and Russia or not?

I can empathise as why russia is doing this, men marching around with swastikas – zero empathy. It’s another war on the otherside of the planet – stop feeding money and weapons into the conflict and it goes away. I don’t support anyone , I don’t know putin personally. What I do know is this another artificial conflict that requires billions / trillions to be spent providing bad people weapons.

Victoria nuland is one of the architects of the war, her grandfather was from the conflict zone, suffered some tragedy there, this affected the son who then transferred the hate of imperial Russia on to the daughter. Practically all these characters that have starred these conflicts have a Jewish background, there’s bad blood there I’m afraid , they are killing two birds with one stone, get russians and Ukrainians to kill each other. Win win.

I think there are a complex interplay of issues going on. Not the least the anger and rage Putin has for the way his city was under siege by the Nazis, with a million people dying of starvation, and the way his family was treated by the Nazis when he was growing up.

https://www.pacesconnection.com/blog/how-vladimir-putin-s-childhood-is-affecting-us-all

What do the past actions of Germans have to do with the present government and people of Ukraine?

Witty Rejoinder said:

DoublePostingResumeWriter said:

wookiemeister said:

I can empathise as why russia is doing this, men marching around with swastikas – zero empathy. It’s another war on the otherside of the planet – stop feeding money and weapons into the conflict and it goes away. I don’t support anyone , I don’t know putin personally. What I do know is this another artificial conflict that requires billions / trillions to be spent providing bad people weapons.

Victoria nuland is one of the architects of the war, her grandfather was from the conflict zone, suffered some tragedy there, this affected the son who then transferred the hate of imperial Russia on to the daughter. Practically all these characters that have starred these conflicts have a Jewish background, there’s bad blood there I’m afraid , they are killing two birds with one stone, get russians and Ukrainians to kill each other. Win win.

I think there are a complex interplay of issues going on. Not the least the anger and rage Putin has for the way his city was under siege by the Nazis, with a million people dying of starvation, and the way his family was treated by the Nazis when he was growing up.

https://www.pacesconnection.com/blog/how-vladimir-putin-s-childhood-is-affecting-us-all

What do the past actions of Germans have to do with the present government and people of Ukraine?

AZOV

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

DoublePostingResumeWriter said:

I think there are a complex interplay of issues going on. Not the least the anger and rage Putin has for the way his city was under siege by the Nazis, with a million people dying of starvation, and the way his family was treated by the Nazis when he was growing up.

https://www.pacesconnection.com/blog/how-vladimir-putin-s-childhood-is-affecting-us-all

What do the past actions of Germans have to do with the present government and people of Ukraine?

AZOV

AZOV wants to invade Russia?

“100% of the launches of Storm Shadow missiles supplied by Britain on the occupiers were effective. Each missile hit the target” – Defense Minister Reznikov

Witty Rejoinder said:

DoublePostingResumeWriter said:

wookiemeister said:

I can empathise as why russia is doing this, men marching around with swastikas – zero empathy. It’s another war on the otherside of the planet – stop feeding money and weapons into the conflict and it goes away. I don’t support anyone , I don’t know putin personally. What I do know is this another artificial conflict that requires billions / trillions to be spent providing bad people weapons.

Victoria nuland is one of the architects of the war, her grandfather was from the conflict zone, suffered some tragedy there, this affected the son who then transferred the hate of imperial Russia on to the daughter. Practically all these characters that have starred these conflicts have a Jewish background, there’s bad blood there I’m afraid , they are killing two birds with one stone, get russians and Ukrainians to kill each other. Win win.

I think there are a complex interplay of issues going on. Not the least the anger and rage Putin has for the way his city was under siege by the Nazis, with a million people dying of starvation, and the way his family was treated by the Nazis when he was growing up.

https://www.pacesconnection.com/blog/how-vladimir-putin-s-childhood-is-affecting-us-all

What do the past actions of Germans have to do with the present government and people of Ukraine?

I haven’t read the link but Putin is only seven months older than me and the Nazis were long gone when I was growing up. So I fail to see how the Nazis did things to him in his childhood.

MOSCOW, May 31. /TASS/. Russia’s Aerospace Forces destroyed the last Ukrainian combat ship in the Odessa port in the special military operation in Ukraine, Defense Ministry Spokesman Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov reported on Wednesday.

“On May 29, the Ukrainian Navy’s last combat ship Yury Olefirenko was destroyed as a result of a strike by the Russian Aerospace Forces’ precision weapons against the anchorage of naval ships in the Odessa port,” the spokesman said.

The Ukrainian Navy operated about 25 combat ships, including five patrol and six artillery boats before Russia launched its special military operation in Ukraine.

In addition, the Ukrainian Navy’s combat assets included the Gola Pristan anti-saboteur boat and the Svatovo assault boat. Upon Kiev’s attempt to storm Snake Island in the Black Sea on May 9 last year, Russian forces sank three Ukrainian Centaur-class armored assault boats and each of them could have carried a marine infantry platoon.

The Ukrainian Navy also operated nine armored gunboats, one of which, the Akkerman, was abandoned by the crew in Berdyansk, according to information of the Rossiyskaya Gazeta daily. The Vinnitsa corvette and the Yury Olefirenko medium amphibious assault ship were sunk.

Wookie my friend do you want to team up and supply the Ukraine with water powered drones

Zarkov said:

Wookie my friend do you want to team up and supply the Ukraine with water powered drones

Sure but first I’d need some unobtanium

I’m busy filling out the online ASIO form to buy some ISIS brides.

The uko offensive is finally acknowledged

Go out there on the net and you’ll see footage of corpses, German Leopards, Bradley’s, huskys being blown up or being captured.

Total uko losses ? I’d say close to 10,000

The rains and mud have come. Uko frontal assaults are being picked off the russian helicopter gunships

The russians have created massive lines of defence, dragons teeth, bunkers, trenches etc.

The battle is going on on the “grey zone” where you see the graveyards of Western armour

There is some talk ( again) of poland committing troops directly to the conflict perhaps a direct invasion of russia (?) Or driving straight into ukraine (?). Other smaller NATO allies might be up for this too ? Moldova wants to get involved in this war too.

There is talk of arming ukraine with tactical nukes

If the russians suspect they are planning this you’ll see a Russian first strike on the major cities of Europe.

Total casualties assuming the war is continually escalated by NATO forces maybe 2 billion ?

Australia sees its population drastically drop to 500,000

Britain and Western Europe once again become vast forest – no one lives there anymore.

With America its unknown.maybe an example would need to be made and the yank forces stand down? Failing that America no longer exists.

South America and Africa may well be the only habitable zones ? Maybe you’d need to create a marker across the continents to warn future generations not to stray into these zones due to contamination?

Where do you get this information from

wookiemeister said:

The uko offensive is finally acknowledged

Go out there on the net and you’ll see footage of corpses, German Leopards, Bradley’s, huskys being blown up or being captured.

Total uko losses ? I’d say close to 10,000

Got a link to a good splosion, Mr Wookie? I want splosions. Big bada boom splosions.

Cymek said:

Where do you get this information from

Go out on the internet ( not “mainstream” news , you’ll see vast graveyards of the destroyed NATO tanks)
We have spiteful children in charge of the west – remember Boris Johnson that has a string of mistresses and wives and children behind him ? He was in charge of britain at one time , can you imagine !

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

The uko offensive is finally acknowledged

Go out there on the net and you’ll see footage of corpses, German Leopards, Bradley’s, huskys being blown up or being captured.

Total uko losses ? I’d say close to 10,000

Got a link to a good splosion, Mr Wookie? I want splosions. Big bada boom splosions.

Australia has been feeding into the big Badda bing badda boom so we might be seeing them here – soon.

People are fairly stupid so when it happens it will happen FAST

I was thinking nowadays that a major scale war against a power with nukes won’t have a decisive victory.
You could beat them back across any borders to their home soil but invading to defeat them highly unlikely as they could launch nuclear weapons

Anyway , just an update , the offensive has failed. Uko forces will keep up with the frontal assaults on the russuan guns

Bubbles will threaten to kill me

There will be no negotiations

Cymek said:

I was thinking nowadays that a major scale war against a power with nukes won’t have a decisive victory.
You could beat them back across any borders to their home soil but invading to defeat them highly unlikely as they could launch nuclear weapons

A first strike policy is the winning move with nuclear war.

You pummel all of the mainland and try and knock out the silos , bunkers, decision making centres. You’d need to start following the subs into the ocean ( the yanks were complaining the russians have started doing this – they can’t shake them). Knock out the airbases and ports.

The first wave is important – its then a matter of waiting for the sub fleet to realise that no further messages are coming from the mainland – it would be up to the captain to launch or sail away to south America or somewhere like that.

Don’t bother spreading this , it just scares people.

Another Russian general gone:

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

I was thinking nowadays that a major scale war against a power with nukes won’t have a decisive victory.
You could beat them back across any borders to their home soil but invading to defeat them highly unlikely as they could launch nuclear weapons

A first strike policy is the winning move with nuclear war.

You pummel all of the mainland and try and knock out the silos , bunkers, decision making centres. You’d need to start following the subs into the ocean ( the yanks were complaining the russians have started doing this – they can’t shake them). Knock out the airbases and ports.

The first wave is important – its then a matter of waiting for the sub fleet to realise that no further messages are coming from the mainland – it would be up to the captain to launch or sail away to south America or somewhere like that.

I was thinking though it was a conventional war, the enemy is pushed back to its homeland and there it stays licking it’s wounds.
It has nuclear weapons so could wreck the planet if its invaded.
Not sure what a nuclear war would achieve at all, even if you win what do you get as spoils of war, its probably something done out of spite.

Some Russians seem to think that the Russian military can’t do it on their own:

Millions of Chinese Troops ‘Needed’ in Putin’s War, Russian TV Host Says

Millions of Chinese soldiers are “needed” to fight in Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine as Kyiv launches its long-awaited counteroffensive, Russian state TV host Olga Skabeyeva recently said.

https://www.newsweek.com/millions-chinese-troops-needed-putins-war-russian-tv-host-says-1805799

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

I was thinking nowadays that a major scale war against a power with nukes won’t have a decisive victory.
You could beat them back across any borders to their home soil but invading to defeat them highly unlikely as they could launch nuclear weapons

A first strike policy is the winning move with nuclear war.

You pummel all of the mainland and try and knock out the silos , bunkers, decision making centres. You’d need to start following the subs into the ocean ( the yanks were complaining the russians have started doing this – they can’t shake them). Knock out the airbases and ports.

The first wave is important – its then a matter of waiting for the sub fleet to realise that no further messages are coming from the mainland – it would be up to the captain to launch or sail away to south America or somewhere like that.

I was thinking though it was a conventional war, the enemy is pushed back to its homeland and there it stays licking it’s wounds.
It has nuclear weapons so could wreck the planet if its invaded.
Not sure what a nuclear war would achieve at all, even if you win what do you get as spoils of war, its probably something done out of spite.

Even with first strike some of the enemy’s missiles will get through.
Then MAD comes into operation.

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

The uko offensive is finally acknowledged

Go out there on the net and you’ll see footage of corpses, German Leopards, Bradley’s, huskys being blown up or being captured.

Total uko losses ? I’d say close to 10,000

Got a link to a good splosion, Mr Wookie? I want splosions. Big bada boom splosions.

BIG BADA BOOM?

wookiemeister said:

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

The uko offensive is finally acknowledged

Go out there on the net and you’ll see footage of corpses, German Leopards, Bradley’s, huskys being blown up or being captured.

Total uko losses ? I’d say close to 10,000

Got a link to a good splosion, Mr Wookie? I want splosions. Big bada boom splosions.

Australia has been feeding into the big Badda bing badda boom so we might be seeing them here – soon.

People are fairly stupid so when it happens it will happen FAST

Yep, Mr Wookie. The big badda bing badda boom ones. Splosions. You know blood and guts stuff.

Just the one tiny morsel of a link will get my juices flowing. Just one iddy biddy link, so I can go “PHWWOOOOOOOR. Now that was a splosion”.

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

Woodie said:

Got a link to a good splosion, Mr Wookie? I want splosions. Big bada boom splosions.

Australia has been feeding into the big Badda bing badda boom so we might be seeing them here – soon.

People are fairly stupid so when it happens it will happen FAST

Yep, Mr Wookie. The big badda bing badda boom ones. Splosions. You know blood and guts stuff.

Just the one tiny morsel of a link will get my juices flowing. Just one iddy biddy link, so I can go “PHWWOOOOOOOR. Now that was a splosion”.

It has to be real though not from a movie ?

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

Woodie said:

Got a link to a good splosion, Mr Wookie? I want splosions. Big bada boom splosions.

Australia has been feeding into the big Badda bing badda boom so we might be seeing them here – soon.

People are fairly stupid so when it happens it will happen FAST

Yep, Mr Wookie. The big badda bing badda boom ones. Splosions. You know blood and guts stuff.

Just the one tiny morsel of a link will get my juices flowing. Just one iddy biddy link, so I can go “PHWWOOOOOOOR. Now that was a splosion”.

it is ALL out there, waves vaguely, even a child could find it. do your own research!

Cymek said:

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

Australia has been feeding into the big Badda bing badda boom so we might be seeing them here – soon.

People are fairly stupid so when it happens it will happen FAST

Yep, Mr Wookie. The big badda bing badda boom ones. Splosions. You know blood and guts stuff.

Just the one tiny morsel of a link will get my juices flowing. Just one iddy biddy link, so I can go “PHWWOOOOOOOR. Now that was a splosion”.

It has to be real though not from a movie ?

Here’s the biggest BOOM ever. The Tsar Bomba

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

Woodie said:

Yep, Mr Wookie. The big badda bing badda boom ones. Splosions. You know blood and guts stuff.

Just the one tiny morsel of a link will get my juices flowing. Just one iddy biddy link, so I can go “PHWWOOOOOOOR. Now that was a splosion”.

It has to be real though not from a movie ?

Here’s the biggest BOOM ever. The Tsar Bomba

It had a 100-megaton capacity, though the resulting fallout from such a blast was considered too dangerous for a test situation. Thus, it was modified to yield 50 megatons, which was estimated to be about 3,800 times the strength of the U.S. bomb dropped on Hiroshima during World War II.

Cymek said:

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

Australia has been feeding into the big Badda bing badda boom so we might be seeing them here – soon.

People are fairly stupid so when it happens it will happen FAST

Yep, Mr Wookie. The big badda bing badda boom ones. Splosions. You know blood and guts stuff.

Just the one tiny morsel of a link will get my juices flowing. Just one iddy biddy link, so I can go “PHWWOOOOOOOR. Now that was a splosion”.

It has to be real though not from a movie ?

Yep. Has to be real. Well, wookie-real, anyway, if my salivatory excretions are going to flow forth in abundance.

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

Woodie said:

Yep, Mr Wookie. The big badda bing badda boom ones. Splosions. You know blood and guts stuff.

Just the one tiny morsel of a link will get my juices flowing. Just one iddy biddy link, so I can go “PHWWOOOOOOOR. Now that was a splosion”.

It has to be real though not from a movie ?

Here’s the biggest BOOM ever. The Tsar Bomba

Is that when the aliens blew up the White House?

Woodie said:

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

It has to be real though not from a movie ?

Here’s the biggest BOOM ever. The Tsar Bomba

Is that when the aliens blew up the White House?

This is a real one. The US was having a litter of kittens about it.

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

Woodie said:

Yep, Mr Wookie. The big badda bing badda boom ones. Splosions. You know blood and guts stuff.

Just the one tiny morsel of a link will get my juices flowing. Just one iddy biddy link, so I can go “PHWWOOOOOOOR. Now that was a splosion”.

It has to be real though not from a movie ?

Here’s the biggest BOOM ever. The Tsar Bomba

Clever at making things, but not very smart in their use. Ai could be the planets wildlife saving grace, that is once they get rid of us.

Don’t know who’s winning but a lot of people are dying.

Peak Warming Man said:

Don’t know who’s winning but a lot of people are dying.

Right now, it seems that the Ukrainians are doing the winning.

But nothing in warfare can be taken for granted. The history of unexpected reversals is too long.

The Ukrainians have two problems ahead of them:

Firstly, to maintain the impetus of the offensive.

Secondly, the main Russian line of prepared resistance is still ahead of them, and breaching that without significant air power is going to be tough.

On the other hand, it was built by Russians, so…

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

Woodie said:

Got a link to a good splosion, Mr Wookie? I want splosions. Big bada boom splosions.

Australia has been feeding into the big Badda bing badda boom so we might be seeing them here – soon.

People are fairly stupid so when it happens it will happen FAST

Yep, Mr Wookie. The big badda bing badda boom ones. Splosions. You know blood and guts stuff.

Just the one tiny morsel of a link will get my juices flowing. Just one iddy biddy link, so I can go “PHWWOOOOOOOR. Now that was a splosion”.

Would you like me to provide an accredited link to whether water or women exist ?

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Don’t know who’s winning but a lot of people are dying.

Right now, it seems that the Ukrainians are doing the winning.

But nothing in warfare can be taken for granted. The history of unexpected reversals is too long.

The Ukrainians have two problems ahead of them:

Firstly, to maintain the impetus of the offensive.

Secondly, the main Russian line of prepared resistance is still ahead of them, and breaching that without significant air power is going to be tough.

On the other hand, it was built by Russians, so…

See what I’m up against ?

captain_spalding said:

NATO has been marching around the world since the collapse of the soviet union

Remember when Saddam didn’t have WMDs?

Remember when they attacked Libya, toppled ghadaffi and open a bigger can of worms like ISIS and Iraq?

Anyone over the age of 40 would have a fairly good understanding of what NATO is and and what it’s aims are.

Remember when they armed and trained Osama bin laden ?

The problem is water in theory has OH and H popping in and out of existence in perfect water which is the only time you’d get close enough to create perfect solutions created from perfect water and CH3COOH

I think i touched a nerve there.

captain_spalding said:

I think i touched a nerve there.

The war on Iraq killed 500,000 children

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

I think i touched a nerve there.

The war on Iraq killed 500,000 children

And Putin is thus licensed to commit what ever aggression or atrocities that he pleases.

Well, i’m glad we cleared that up.

Now, Stalin imprisoned about 18 million Russians in the gulag, and about 1.5 million – 1.7 million of them died in the camps, because he sort of that they might not entirely agree with his own way of thinking.

Presumably, Western leaders are entirely within their rights to do similar to their own populations? I mean, we’ve already established that was good for the goose is what’s good for the gander in this sort of thing. Keep the books balanced, and all that.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

I think i touched a nerve there.

The war on Iraq killed 500,000 children

And Putin is thus licensed to commit what ever aggression or atrocities that he pleases.

Well, i’m glad we cleared that up.

Now, Stalin imprisoned about 18 million Russians in the gulag, and about 1.5 million – 1.7 million of them died in the camps, because he sort of that they might not entirely agree with his own way of thinking.

Presumably, Western leaders are entirely within their rights to do similar to their own populations? I mean, we’ve already established that was good for the goose is what’s good for the gander in this sort of thing. Keep the books balanced, and all that.

I’ve got a funny feeling Stalin killed FORTY million russians.

We don’t have any control over our government so whatever putin does or doesn’t do is moot. We wouldn’t have a referendum on immigration any more than a referendum on going to war or supplying billions of dollars of weapons, money, ammo and “training” ( special forces killing civillians in far away countries)

Your figure of 500,00 Iraqi children is likely to be wrong.

The fact that any children were killed is horrible, That they were killed in the numbers that they were is utterly appalling.

However, the figure of 550,000 stemmed from one UNICEF report, which relied on questionable data.

Brown University’s estimate of Iraqi death is 315,000 in total. Again absolutely appalling, horrifying, but not 500,00 of any age group.

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

Save the Children Fund gives the staggering figure of 32,945 children, with the true total likely to be ‘much higher’. But it takes a wild imagination to carry that possible figure to 500,000.

https://www.savethechildren.net/news/one-child-killed-or-maimed-every-5-hours-over-20-years-war-afghanistan

NBC News gave the figure of Iraqi civilians as ‘approximately 200,000’.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/iraq-war-numbers-rcna75762

Massachusetts Institute of Technology gives a wide-ranging estimate of 150,000 – 400,000 Iraqi civilians of all ages.

https://web.mit.edu/humancostiraq/

There are estimates in other places which are both slightly higher and considerably lower than 500,000. There is no denying that all of these figures, even the lowest, are an abomination.

But, i’m sure that you can see that your pronouncement of 500,000 childre killed is to be taken with a largegrain of salt.

https://www.rt.com/news/578040-kosovo-serbia-rubicon-eu/

3 saboteurs from the Kosovo police caught armed creeping across the Serbian border.

NATO is running military exercise at the moment ( airforce) so maybe the plan to have a pre emptive strike on Serbia – shock and awe.

Russian sources say the ukos have lost about 7500 men since the “offensive”

Leopard tanks HAVE been captured.

Once war kicks off in the belly of Europe with a conflict in the Balkans all bets are off.

wookiemeister said:

Russian sources say the ukos have lost about 7500 men since the “offensive”

Leopard tanks HAVE been captured.

Once war kicks off in the belly of Europe with a conflict in the Balkans all bets are off.

Does Russia even have the ability to invade beyond the Ukraine
Don’t think it has enough equipment

wookiemeister said:

Russian sources say the ukos have lost about 7500 men since the “offensive”

Leopard tanks HAVE been captured.

Once war kicks off in the belly of Europe with a conflict in the Balkans all bets are off.

The american gov announces another arms package to ukraine

Hundreds of armoured personnel carriers / tanks/ vehicles have been destroyed

( a Russian helicopter gunship blew up some combine harvesters a few days ago – someone pointed out that the funny thing sticking out of the vehicle isnt a barrel its a grain chute.)

wookiemeister said:

https://www.rt.com/news/578040-kosovo-serbia-rubicon-eu/

3 saboteurs from the Kosovo police caught armed creeping across the Serbian border.

NATO is running military exercise at the moment ( airforce) so maybe the plan to have a pre emptive strike on Serbia – shock and awe.

Military exercises are not something you cook up in a few days, or even a few weeks.

They typically involve months and months of planning and co-ordination, and are often on the participants’ schedules for a couple of years before the preparation gets under way. Especially for international exercises. To suggest otherwise is to display ignorance of the realities

They didn’t open the newspaper, see that the Kosovars are getting a bit rambunctious, then just grab their helmets and dash out the door to stage an exercise as ‘cover’ for something.

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

Russian sources say the ukos have lost about 7500 men since the “offensive”

Leopard tanks HAVE been captured.

Once war kicks off in the belly of Europe with a conflict in the Balkans all bets are off.

Does Russia even have the ability to invade beyond the Ukraine
Don’t think it has enough equipment

Russia plays the long game

The opposing side starts placing the pieces on the board, the russians do like wise, the other side starts moving its pieces – likewise Russia. When pieces are taken Russia takes pieces.

The russians are hunkering down behind the minefields and tank traps picking off the armoured columns with missiles and artillery.

One gruesome piece of footage has some russian chap running up to a leopard past the fractured bodies of NATO troops – legs/ guts everywhere

wookiemeister said:

One gruesome piece of footage has some russian chap running up to a leopard past the fractured bodies of NATO troops – legs/ guts everywhere

That keen to surrender, huh?

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

Russian sources say the ukos have lost about 7500 men since the “offensive”

Leopard tanks HAVE been captured.

Once war kicks off in the belly of Europe with a conflict in the Balkans all bets are off.

Does Russia even have the ability to invade beyond the Ukraine
Don’t think it has enough equipment

Russia plays the long game

The opposing side starts placing the pieces on the board, the russians do like wise, the other side starts moving its pieces – likewise Russia. When pieces are taken Russia takes pieces.

The russians are hunkering down behind the minefields and tank traps picking off the armoured columns with missiles and artillery.

One gruesome piece of footage has some russian chap running up to a leopard past the fractured bodies of NATO troops – legs/ guts everywhere

Are facts available on just how much of Russians military (all branches) is involved in the Ukraine war

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

https://www.rt.com/news/578040-kosovo-serbia-rubicon-eu/

3 saboteurs from the Kosovo police caught armed creeping across the Serbian border.

NATO is running military exercise at the moment ( airforce) so maybe the plan to have a pre emptive strike on Serbia – shock and awe.

Military exercises are not something you cook up in a few days, or even a few weeks.

They typically involve months and months of planning and co-ordination, and are often on the participants’ schedules for a couple of years before the preparation gets under way. Especially for international exercises. To suggest otherwise is to display ignorance of the realities

They didn’t open the newspaper, see that the Kosovars are getting a bit rambunctious, then just grab their helmets and dash out the door to stage an exercise as ‘cover’ for something.

Things heat up in the Balkans – fast

It comes to how all the military alliances play out, who stays neutral and it becomes a straight fight between Serbia and NATO.

Serbia is a small landlocked country. Given the situation of NATO exercises it either launches everything and lands the first blow or does what it did last time – just absorb the blows.

NATO power systems would be need to be hit first and fast. Something tells me the Serbs have sat on their arse for decades and haven’t prepared at all.

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

Does Russia even have the ability to invade beyond the Ukraine
Don’t think it has enough equipment

Russia plays the long game

The opposing side starts placing the pieces on the board, the russians do like wise, the other side starts moving its pieces – likewise Russia. When pieces are taken Russia takes pieces.

The russians are hunkering down behind the minefields and tank traps picking off the armoured columns with missiles and artillery.

One gruesome piece of footage has some russian chap running up to a leopard past the fractured bodies of NATO troops – legs/ guts everywhere

Are facts available on just how much of Russians military (all branches) is involved in the Ukraine war

The general estimates: something like 5 %

Given history you’d have to assume the 3rd European war will start with

1 : assassination

2 : false flag attack

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

Russia plays the long game

The opposing side starts placing the pieces on the board, the russians do like wise, the other side starts moving its pieces – likewise Russia. When pieces are taken Russia takes pieces.

The russians are hunkering down behind the minefields and tank traps picking off the armoured columns with missiles and artillery.

One gruesome piece of footage has some russian chap running up to a leopard past the fractured bodies of NATO troops – legs/ guts everywhere

Are facts available on just how much of Russians military (all branches) is involved in the Ukraine war

The general estimates: something like 5 %

The RuAF has been mainly inactive, dropping glide bombs/ missiles from safe zones where SAMs can’t reach

As NATO SAM systems have been slowly destroyed the RuAF has become more active. Helicopter gunships are blunting the offensive in a turkey shoot operation as German panzers charge across minefields.

Wookie is an embarrassing old feeble Aussie bloke who’s never actually met a Russian or a Ukrainian, and is in awe of all these big fierce foreigny types.

As expected, he’s chosen the wrong side to back here, but that’s the Wookie way: always back the bad guy, always talk shit and avoid being respected by the intelligent people.

Bubblecar said:

Wookie is an embarrassing old feeble Aussie bloke who’s never actually met a Russian or a Ukrainian, and is in awe of all these big fierce foreigny types.

As expected, he’s chosen the wrong side to back here, but that’s the Wookie way: always back the bad guy, always talk shit and avoid being respected by the intelligent people.

It is easy ro skip most of his posts and still know what he said.

The latest rumour is NATO will go into western ukraine, or poland will make a decisive step to unilaterally invade to assist uko forces.

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Wookie is an embarrassing old feeble Aussie bloke who’s never actually met a Russian or a Ukrainian, and is in awe of all these big fierce foreigny types.

As expected, he’s chosen the wrong side to back here, but that’s the Wookie way: always back the bad guy, always talk shit and avoid being respected by the intelligent people.

It is easy ro skip most of his posts and still know what he said.

Probably a good idea.

Remember this is only ONE man’s opinion that differs from the general consensus here – it says you are being lied to. I come here periodically

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Wookie is an embarrassing old feeble Aussie bloke who’s never actually met a Russian or a Ukrainian, and is in awe of all these big fierce foreigny types.

As expected, he’s chosen the wrong side to back here, but that’s the Wookie way: always back the bad guy, always talk shit and avoid being respected by the intelligent people.

It is easy ro skip most of his posts and still know what he said.

I habitually ignore him these days.

Just dipped in for a moment to give the old wanker a rare thrill :)

I personally wonder if most if not all of these major powers have vastly over estimated their abilities and skills as they have not fought a real war in decades.
They barely beat back some poorly equipped terrorists groups.
Could find these fancy machines get wrecked relatively easily against an equal or slightly superior enemy

When Australia goes to war with Russia they’ll just finish off our infrastructure with hypersonic weapons and just forget all about us. With no electricity and sporadic water supply the cities will collapse and gastro will finish millions off. Australia has very few oil refineries, if they manage to fix them the repaired refinery will just be destroyed again.

Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Wookie is an embarrassing old feeble Aussie bloke who’s never actually met a Russian or a Ukrainian, and is in awe of all these big fierce foreigny types.

As expected, he’s chosen the wrong side to back here, but that’s the Wookie way: always back the bad guy, always talk shit and avoid being respected by the intelligent people.

It is easy ro skip most of his posts and still know what he said.

I habitually ignore him these days.

Just dipped in for a moment to give the old wanker a rare thrill :)

Don’t worry about it

If the war gets hot no one will be worrying about anything that’s been said here

Cymek said:

I personally wonder if most if not all of these major powers have vastly over estimated their abilities and skills as they have not fought a real war in decades.
They barely beat back some poorly equipped terrorists groups.
Could find these fancy machines get wrecked relatively easily against an equal or slightly superior enemy

We couldn’t defeat hillsmen in Afghanistan, its unlikely we’ll beat the russians

The best thing we could is sue for peace

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

I personally wonder if most if not all of these major powers have vastly over estimated their abilities and skills as they have not fought a real war in decades.
They barely beat back some poorly equipped terrorists groups.
Could find these fancy machines get wrecked relatively easily against an equal or slightly superior enemy

We couldn’t defeat hillsmen in Afghanistan, its unlikely we’ll beat the russians

The best thing we could is sue for peace

Just remember that Russia couldn’t beat the same Afghans.

Bubblecar said:

Wookie is an embarrassing old feeble Aussie bloke who’s never actually met a Russian or a Ukrainian, and is in awe of all these big fierce foreigny types.

As expected, he’s chosen the wrong side to back here, but that’s the Wookie way: always back the bad guy, always talk shit and avoid being respected by the intelligent people.

And the Jews!

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

I personally wonder if most if not all of these major powers have vastly over estimated their abilities and skills as they have not fought a real war in decades.
They barely beat back some poorly equipped terrorists groups.
Could find these fancy machines get wrecked relatively easily against an equal or slightly superior enemy

We couldn’t defeat hillsmen in Afghanistan, its unlikely we’ll beat the russians

The best thing we could is sue for peace

Just remember that Russia couldn’t beat the same Afghans.

The soviet union

Different beast

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

We couldn’t defeat hillsmen in Afghanistan, its unlikely we’ll beat the russians

The best thing we could is sue for peace

Just remember that Russia couldn’t beat the same Afghans.

The soviet union

Different beast

Yes but they had more power then.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Bubblecar said:

Wookie is an embarrassing old feeble Aussie bloke who’s never actually met a Russian or a Ukrainian, and is in awe of all these big fierce foreigny types.

As expected, he’s chosen the wrong side to back here, but that’s the Wookie way: always back the bad guy, always talk shit and avoid being respected by the intelligent people.

And the Jews!

When you’ve been told first hand it’s no longer a conspiracy. Every culture has plans to take over the world – the secret is to not be part of their nefarious plans. You turn off the money and weapons and then everyone has to negotiate. A Buddhist once told me the world of the future would be Buddhism ( shakes head). The Muslims have some grand plans to take over.

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

Just remember that Russia couldn’t beat the same Afghans.

The soviet union

Different beast

Yes but they had more power then.

The natural outcomes of communism had started taking hold by then. It’s like facism , people go along with it for a while until the downsides affect them directly.

The soviet union fought off the third Reich but at massive expense.

Anyway, enough of my shit

Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Wookie is an embarrassing old feeble Aussie bloke who’s never actually met a Russian or a Ukrainian, and is in awe of all these big fierce foreigny types.

As expected, he’s chosen the wrong side to back here, but that’s the Wookie way: always back the bad guy, always talk shit and avoid being respected by the intelligent people.

It is easy ro skip most of his posts and still know what he said.

I habitually ignore him these days.

Just dipped in for a moment to give the old wanker a rare thrill :)

Wookie is always Wookie.

The only real fun is to look at the shades of his expression, and try to determine which hat he put on tonight:

wookiemeister said:

The natural outcomes of communism had started taking hold by then. It’s like facism , people go along with it for a while until the downsides affect them directly.

As the Russian people are beginning to discover.

The death of Stalin: the coup

https://youtu.be/EDOIzK8NuoU

wookiemeister said:

The death of Stalin: the coup

https://youtu.be/EDOIzK8NuoU

Must look up that production. Did i see Michael Palin in there?

Russia really was much better off without Beria. He would have taken Stalin’s methods, and vastly expanded on them. Life in Russia would have been a living hell for each and every citizen.

While he was imprisoned, Beria would only eat eggs, which he cooked himself, as he believed that this meant he couldn’t be poisoned.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

The death of Stalin: the coup

https://youtu.be/EDOIzK8NuoU

Must look up that production. Did i see Michael Palin in there?

Russia really was much better off without Beria. He would have taken Stalin’s methods, and vastly expanded on them. Life in Russia would have been a living hell for each and every citizen.

While he was imprisoned, Beria would only eat eggs, which he cooked himself, as he believed that this meant he couldn’t be poisoned.

A Michael Palin double perhaps or was Palin implicated in the coup.
Maybe he is/was a communist socialist humanist sympathizer.
I think MI5 should keep an eye on our man Palin, his cousin says she can see him from Alaska.

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

The death of Stalin: the coup

https://youtu.be/EDOIzK8NuoU

Must look up that production. Did i see Michael Palin in there?

Russia really was much better off without Beria. He would have taken Stalin’s methods, and vastly expanded on them. Life in Russia would have been a living hell for each and every citizen.

While he was imprisoned, Beria would only eat eggs, which he cooked himself, as he believed that this meant he couldn’t be poisoned.

A Michael Palin double perhaps or was Palin implicated in the coup.
Maybe he is/was a communist socialist humanist sympathizer.
I think MI5 should keep an eye on our man Palin, his cousin says she can see him from Alaska.

Not Michael Palin. Jason Isaacs.

wookiemeister said:

Anyway, enough of my shit

Yep.

Ukraine’s battlefields are shaping up to look like a tank time warp.

Russia is thought to have lost more than half its operational tank fleet since the start of the February 2022 invasion and is now “scraping the barrel,” according to military analysts.

Images that have emerged in recent weeks show Moscow has started dragging 70-year-old museum pieces into the conflict.

Onlookers have mocked the move, referring to the fleet of T-62 and T-55 tanks — which first appeared in the 1940s — as dad’s army

Russians with attitude

https://youtu.be/7YVvUI5HG6w

Footage of LANCET destroying millions of dollars of equipment

wookiemeister said:

Russians with attitude

https://youtu.be/7YVvUI5HG6w

Footage of LANCET destroying millions of dollars of equipment

been watching that earlier, get back to it later or tomorrow

transition said:

wookiemeister said:

Russians with attitude

https://youtu.be/7YVvUI5HG6w

Footage of LANCET destroying millions of dollars of equipment

been watching that earlier, get back to it later or tomorrow

You’ll be the only one that does

Vladimir Putin’s former ‘chef’ was an ally of the Russian leader. Now he and the Wagner boss are locked in a potentially dangerous feud

From Putin’s ‘chef’ to Putin’s ‘butcher’ to Putin’s enemy: Why Prigozhin appears to have fallen out with the president.

Fall
Falls
Fallen
Falling

Window Time for Prigozhin ?

Ukraine claims eight villages now retaken from Russian forces during counteroffensive

Tau.Neutrino said:

Ukraine claims eight villages now retaken from Russian forces during counteroffensive

and Russia claims to have broken the offensive.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Vladimir Putin’s former ‘chef’ was an ally of the Russian leader. Now he and the Wagner boss are locked in a potentially dangerous feud

From Putin’s ‘chef’ to Putin’s ‘butcher’ to Putin’s enemy: Why Prigozhin appears to have fallen out with the president.

Fall
Falls
Fallen
Falling

Window Time for Prigozhin ?

Hopefully he’ll besiege the Kremlin.