Date: 5/06/2023 19:32:23
From: Woodie
ID: 2040169
Subject: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

I’m going to get a new toy. 😁😎

A 3D printer. For my TOOTS!!

Filament (or FDM for those into the lingo) rather than resin. I reckon resin would be too messy.

I’ve settled on this one.

This one

300 * 300 * 400 build plate. Should be big enough to print what I need. Bigger plate 400 * 400 * 400 is another $320.

Bigger one

For making this sorta thing. 😁

Wadda yas reckon?

Feedback welcome. .😁

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Date: 5/06/2023 19:41:01
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2040174
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Woodie said:


I’m going to get a new toy. 😁😎

A 3D printer. For my TOOTS!!

Filament (or FDM for those into the lingo) rather than resin. I reckon resin would be too messy.

I’ve settled on this one.

This one

300 * 300 * 400 build plate. Should be big enough to print what I need. Bigger plate 400 * 400 * 400 is another $320.

Bigger one

For making this sorta thing. 😁

Wadda yas reckon?

Feedback welcome. .😁

A good start!
Check out printables.com and Thingiverse.com for lots of models. With a bit of searching you should be able to find some good scale train files as well.

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Date: 5/06/2023 19:41:09
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2040175
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Woodie said:


I’m going to get a new toy. 😁😎

A 3D printer. For my TOOTS!!

Filament (or FDM for those into the lingo) rather than resin. I reckon resin would be too messy.

I’ve settled on this one.

This one

300 * 300 * 400 build plate. Should be big enough to print what I need. Bigger plate 400 * 400 * 400 is another $320.

Bigger one

For making this sorta thing. 😁

Wadda yas reckon?

Feedback welcome. .😁

I know little of the art.

I do sometimes wish i had one. Like now. Little plastic gizmo that holds the depth gauge on my drill press has subdivided itself, and no amount of glues will remedy it.

With a 3-d printer, i could just knock up a new one.

As it is, i’ll see if some approximation can be wrested from some plywood.

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Date: 5/06/2023 19:44:00
From: Arts
ID: 2040176
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Woodie said:


I’m going to get a new toy. 😁😎

A 3D printer. For my TOOTS!!

Filament (or FDM for those into the lingo) rather than resin. I reckon resin would be too messy.

I’ve settled on this one.

This one

300 * 300 * 400 build plate. Should be big enough to print what I need. Bigger plate 400 * 400 * 400 is another $320.

Bigger one

For making this sorta thing. 😁

Wadda yas reckon?

Feedback welcome. .😁

seems awesome

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Date: 5/06/2023 19:44:27
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2040177
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

captain_spalding said:


I know little of the art.

I do sometimes wish i had one. Like now. Little plastic gizmo that holds the depth gauge on my drill press has subdivided itself, and no amount of glues will remedy it.

With a 3-d printer, i could just knock up a new one.

As it is, i’ll see if some approximation can be wrested from some plywood.

Send me a drawing and I’ll make one for you.

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Date: 5/06/2023 19:46:35
From: Arts
ID: 2040179
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

I have been thinking of getting one too.. but we have a couple at work and I am friends with one of the engineering lecturers.. so I might just ask them if I can swap a couple of beers for a favour…

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Date: 5/06/2023 19:47:31
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2040180
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Arts said:


I have been thinking of getting one too.. but we have a couple at work and I am friends with one of the engineering lecturers.. so I might just ask them if I can swap a couple of beers for a favour…

I have one I don’t use.

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Date: 5/06/2023 19:50:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2040181
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

I know little of the art.

I do sometimes wish i had one. Like now. Little plastic gizmo that holds the depth gauge on my drill press has subdivided itself, and no amount of glues will remedy it.

With a 3-d printer, i could just knock up a new one.

As it is, i’ll see if some approximation can be wrested from some plywood.

Send me a drawing and I’ll make one for you.

Thanks, but i’ll fudge up something at this end.

Wasn’t angling for an offer, just remarking how a 3DP might be useful for making replacement bits on all sorts of things. Although i imagine you’d have to master the skills first.

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Date: 5/06/2023 19:52:14
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2040182
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Someone at the local markets sells 3D printed kids’ toys… for $25+.

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Date: 5/06/2023 19:53:35
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2040184
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

The size of the one you are getting can do quite a lot. For larger pieces just put them diagonally on the bed, you’ll manage quite large parts that way.
Have a poke around for mods to improve it, there’s usually quite a lot to be found.
The most critical part is getting a good first layer down, spend time on YT to see what people are doing for that. I added a BLTouch probe to mine and it works very well indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhGmZotqKFU

I’m now running Klipper firmware on it and it’s bloody awesome.

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Date: 5/06/2023 19:54:49
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2040185
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

captain_spalding said:


Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

I know little of the art.

I do sometimes wish i had one. Like now. Little plastic gizmo that holds the depth gauge on my drill press has subdivided itself, and no amount of glues will remedy it.

With a 3-d printer, i could just knock up a new one.

As it is, i’ll see if some approximation can be wrested from some plywood.

Send me a drawing and I’ll make one for you.

Thanks, but i’ll fudge up something at this end.

Wasn’t angling for an offer, just remarking how a 3DP might be useful for making replacement bits on all sorts of things. Although i imagine you’d have to master the skills first.

Yeah being good at CAD really helps. The house is littered – in a good way – with things I’ve designed & printed.

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Date: 5/06/2023 19:55:15
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2040187
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Divine Angel said:


Someone at the local markets sells 3D printed kids’ toys… for $25+.

They probably cost maybe 50c to make.

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:11:18
From: Arts
ID: 2040196
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

JudgeMental said:


Arts said:

I have been thinking of getting one too.. but we have a couple at work and I am friends with one of the engineering lecturers.. so I might just ask them if I can swap a couple of beers for a favour…

I have one I don’t use.

how many beers?

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:15:35
From: Arts
ID: 2040198
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

I wasn’t a fan of 3d printed things, thinking they were limited, but then my (former boss – now) colleague gifted me a 3d printed gecko one year.. and it’s my favourite thing in my office..

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:17:19
From: Woodie
ID: 2040199
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Spiny Norman said:


The size of the one you are getting can do quite a lot. For larger pieces just put them diagonally on the bed, you’ll manage quite large parts that way.
Have a poke around for mods to improve it, there’s usually quite a lot to be found.
The most critical part is getting a good first layer down, spend time on YT to see what people are doing for that. I added a BLTouch probe to mine and it works very well indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhGmZotqKFU

I’m now running Klipper firmware on it and it’s bloody awesome.

It has ABL (Automatic Bed Levelling). Why? Coz I’m not gunna do it manually, judging by Youchoobs. It uses a “sensor” in the nozzle to do it.

Even though it has wi-fi and ethernet, it’s limited. Must go via Creality Cloud to use it. Then lets you do printer setting from your device, and monitor your print via webcam. Some of those prints I want to do, after slicing on finest setting, say it would take 25.5hrs. (0.2mm nozzle) and ultra fine (0.08mm resolution) just to print the body of that carriage.

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:20:56
From: Woodie
ID: 2040200
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Spiny Norman said:


captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Send me a drawing and I’ll make one for you.

Thanks, but i’ll fudge up something at this end.

Wasn’t angling for an offer, just remarking how a 3DP might be useful for making replacement bits on all sorts of things. Although i imagine you’d have to master the skills first.

Yeah being good at CAD really helps. The house is littered – in a good way – with things I’ve designed & printed.

That Thingiverse print that I pointed at, I have no idea how they did the CAD for that. It’s that complex, that TinkerCAD won’t load it. Has “more than 300,000 triangles” it says. Onshape 3D loaded it fine direct from the .stl file.

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:25:30
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2040202
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Arts said:


JudgeMental said:

Arts said:

I have been thinking of getting one too.. but we have a couple at work and I am friends with one of the engineering lecturers.. so I might just ask them if I can swap a couple of beers for a favour…

I have one I don’t use.

how many beers?

free. plus heaps of filaments. instruction book. spare parts. cabinet for to keep drafts out and to keep it warm.

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:26:26
From: Woodie
ID: 2040203
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

JudgeMental said:


Arts said:

JudgeMental said:

I have one I don’t use.

how many beers?

free. plus heaps of filaments. instruction book. spare parts. cabinet for to keep drafts out and to keep it warm.

What sorta printer is it, Mr Mental?

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:29:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2040205
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Woodie said:


JudgeMental said:

Arts said:

how many beers?

free. plus heaps of filaments. instruction book. spare parts. cabinet for to keep drafts out and to keep it warm.

What sorta printer is it, Mr Mental?

LOL

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:29:39
From: Arts
ID: 2040206
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

JudgeMental said:


Arts said:

JudgeMental said:

I have one I don’t use.

how many beers?

free. plus heaps of filaments. instruction book. spare parts. cabinet for to keep drafts out and to keep it warm.

holy, I will definitely pay you.. but would love to take it off your hands if you are getting rid of it.

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:31:00
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2040208
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Woodie said:


JudgeMental said:

Arts said:

how many beers?

free. plus heaps of filaments. instruction book. spare parts. cabinet for to keep drafts out and to keep it warm.

What sorta printer is it, Mr Mental?

prusa i3 mk2

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:31:59
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2040209
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Arts said:


JudgeMental said:

Arts said:

how many beers?

free. plus heaps of filaments. instruction book. spare parts. cabinet for to keep drafts out and to keep it warm.

holy, I will definitely pay you.. but would love to take it off your hands if you are getting rid of it.

No worries. I’ll give you some instructions to get going.

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:35:33
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2040210
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Link

Pretty much the same just this is the next model.

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:36:37
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2040211
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

JudgeMental said:


Link

Pretty much the same just this is the next model.

I got it in kit form and put it together.

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:37:05
From: Arts
ID: 2040212
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

JudgeMental said:


JudgeMental said:

Link

Pretty much the same just this is the next model.

I got it in kit form and put it together.

you 3d printed the 3d printer?

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:37:23
From: Woodie
ID: 2040213
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

JudgeMental said:


Woodie said:

JudgeMental said:

free. plus heaps of filaments. instruction book. spare parts. cabinet for to keep drafts out and to keep it warm.

What sorta printer is it, Mr Mental?

prusa i3 mk2

Nice little piece of equip, Mr Mental. 😁

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:38:06
From: buffy
ID: 2040214
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Is this the forum version of buy swap and sell?

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:41:40
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2040216
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Arts said:


JudgeMental said:

JudgeMental said:

Link

Pretty much the same just this is the next model.

I got it in kit form and put it together.

you 3d printed the 3d printer?

I have made some spare parts for it. there was an early printer that once you built one you could replicate all the plastic parts for another one. probably the first 3d printer.

https://reprap.org/wiki/RepRap

Link

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Date: 5/06/2023 20:49:42
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2040220
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

JudgeMental said:


Woodie said:

JudgeMental said:

free. plus heaps of filaments. instruction book. spare parts. cabinet for to keep drafts out and to keep it warm.

What sorta printer is it, Mr Mental?

prusa i3 mk2

Similar to mine.

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Date: 5/06/2023 22:55:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2040239
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

That should be fun.

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Date: 6/06/2023 00:53:57
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2040264
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Bubblecar said:


That should be fun.

Yep, go for it.

Only word of warning I have is that the result can need a fair bit of sanding before the surface is properly smooth.

A 3-D printer is something that I wish I had, but I haven’t had a need for one since I stopped doing rocketry.

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Date: 6/06/2023 09:37:46
From: Woodie
ID: 2040323
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

oooops…..

I boo booed in the original post.

Clicking the link don’t work properly. You’ll need to drag/right click and “go to”

First project link should have been this https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5274441

After some practice of course.

You can’t yet get these Melbourne Comeng passenger trains commercially. And if you could, likely to retail for around $1,500 for a 6 carriage set.

How they did the 3D CAD for those, I’ll never know.

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Date: 6/06/2023 19:12:03
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2040537
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

set it up with ventilation – 3d printing creates micro particles that you’ll end up breathing in clogging up your lungs

3d printers create fumes – ABS will create a toxic gas, PLA is safer

the ideal printer set up would be in its own enclosure where particles/ fumes are contained and can be drawn through a filter once finished

3d printers with enclosures are better because the temperature of the filament can be more effectively controlled, a heated bed helps too.

intricate shapes ae better created with resin printers (though they have no strength)

if you want basic shapes a PLA printer will be fine.

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Date: 6/06/2023 19:13:56
From: wookiemeister
ID: 2040538
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

keep your filament dry – if possible

the filament absorbs moisture, if you want better prints you might want to dry out your filament in a dryer – cheap food dryers can be used. some printers have this option built in but they can be expensive

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Date: 6/06/2023 19:28:53
From: Arts
ID: 2040539
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

to be fair I am a 3D printer.. I made two humans…

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Date: 6/06/2023 19:40:09
From: ms spock
ID: 2040540
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Arts said:


to be fair I am a 3D printer.. I made two humans…

Like humans the 3D printers start printing parts for their offspring.

You have been warned.

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Date: 6/06/2023 19:49:44
From: party_pants
ID: 2040542
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Arts said:


to be fair I am a 3D printer.. I made two humans…

no.

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Date: 6/06/2023 20:20:43
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2040547
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Arts said:


to be fair I am a 3D printer.. I made two humans…

My first attempt was defective but I guess my firmware upgraded or sumfink cos the second time went ok.

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Date: 6/06/2023 20:22:04
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2040549
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Divine Angel said:


Arts said:

to be fair I am a 3D printer.. I made two humans…

My first attempt was defective but I guess my firmware upgraded or sumfink cos the second time went ok.

could be a first layer problem. gotta get that to stick.

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Date: 6/06/2023 20:22:45
From: Arts
ID: 2040551
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Divine Angel said:


Arts said:

to be fair I am a 3D printer.. I made two humans…

My first attempt was defective but I guess my firmware upgraded or sumfink cos the second time went ok.

see p_p – it’s catching on :)

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Date: 6/06/2023 20:23:26
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2040553
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Arts said:


Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

to be fair I am a 3D printer.. I made two humans…

My first attempt was defective but I guess my firmware upgraded or sumfink cos the second time went ok.

see p_p – it’s catching on :)

Happened to be the first post I clicked on.

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Date: 6/06/2023 20:24:56
From: Arts
ID: 2040555
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

ms spock said:


Arts said:

to be fair I am a 3D printer.. I made two humans…

Like humans the 3D printers start printing parts for their offspring.

You have been warned.

is the warning for the printer or the tiny humans I made?

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Date: 6/06/2023 20:28:17
From: party_pants
ID: 2040558
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Arts said:


Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

to be fair I am a 3D printer.. I made two humans…

My first attempt was defective but I guess my firmware upgraded or sumfink cos the second time went ok.

see p_p – it’s catching on :)

I am sticking to a literal definition rather than a metaphorical one. The creation of inanimate objects through the sequenced layering of synthetic compounds by a machine.

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Date: 6/06/2023 20:29:03
From: Arts
ID: 2040561
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

party_pants said:


Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

My first attempt was defective but I guess my firmware upgraded or sumfink cos the second time went ok.

see p_p – it’s catching on :)

I am sticking to a literal definition rather than a metaphorical one. The creation of inanimate objects through the sequenced layering of synthetic compounds by a machine.

teenagers can sometimes be mistaken for inanimate.

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Date: 6/06/2023 20:39:01
From: Woodie
ID: 2040565
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Divine Angel said:


Arts said:

to be fair I am a 3D printer.. I made two humans…

My first attempt was defective but I guess my firmware upgraded or sumfink cos the second time went ok.

Perhaps the nozzle was clogged.

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Date: 6/06/2023 21:11:50
From: KJW
ID: 2040574
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

I would love to have a 3D printer, but for me, that would be a solution waiting for a problem to be solved.

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Date: 6/06/2023 21:34:23
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2040579
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Cool

HO Scale Melbourne Train – Alstom Comeng EMU (Pre-refurb/mid 2010s condition)

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5274441

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Date: 6/06/2023 21:43:16
From: Woodie
ID: 2040580
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Arts said:


to be fair I am a 3D printer.. I made two humans…

Red Dwarf got it right with their 3D bio printer. 😁

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJdOt_GaHIA 1 min 10 secs

and the result 😁

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixARb1XehQ8 1 min 10 secs

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Date: 7/06/2023 18:58:20
From: Woodie
ID: 2040883
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

WOO HOO!!

Just ordered it all. Filaments, nozzles and all the kit and caboodle!.

Get in there and it’s EOFY sale. Printer $189 cheaper than it was the other day.😁 Filaments and stuff 30% off as well!

All good things come to those that wait, I suppose. 😁

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:03:17
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2040886
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Woodie said:


WOO HOO!!

Just ordered it all. Filaments, nozzles and all the kit and caboodle!.

Get in there and it’s EOFY sale. Printer $189 cheaper than it was the other day.😁 Filaments and stuff 30% off as well!

All good things come to those that wait, I suppose. 😁

Well done! Start with PLA filament, it’s much easier to get started with.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:06:23
From: Michael V
ID: 2040890
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Woodie said:


WOO HOO!!

Just ordered it all. Filaments, nozzles and all the kit and caboodle!.

Get in there and it’s EOFY sale. Printer $189 cheaper than it was the other day.😁 Filaments and stuff 30% off as well!

All good things come to those that wait, I suppose. 😁

:)

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:07:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2040891
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Woodie said:


WOO HOO!!

Just ordered it all. Filaments, nozzles and all the kit and caboodle!.

Get in there and it’s EOFY sale. Printer $189 cheaper than it was the other day.😁 Filaments and stuff 30% off as well!

All good things come to those that wait, I suppose. 😁

Good score. Looking forward to seeing some interesting models.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:07:56
From: Woodie
ID: 2040892
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Spiny Norman said:


Woodie said:

WOO HOO!!

Just ordered it all. Filaments, nozzles and all the kit and caboodle!.

Get in there and it’s EOFY sale. Printer $189 cheaper than it was the other day.😁 Filaments and stuff 30% off as well!

All good things come to those that wait, I suppose. 😁

Well done! Start with PLA filament, it’s much easier to get started with.

Got 6 kg grey PLA, and 2 kg of grey ABS. Discounted to $17 a 1 kg roll. Full range of nozzle sizes from 0.2mm – 1.0 mm, and a nozzle cleaning kit.

Being prepared for a few stuff ups is a good thing, Ize reckons.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:08:36
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2040895
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Woodie said:


WOO HOO!!

Just ordered it all. Filaments, nozzles and all the kit and caboodle!.

Get in there and it’s EOFY sale. Printer $189 cheaper than it was the other day.😁 Filaments and stuff 30% off as well!

All good things come to those that wait, I suppose. 😁

Excellent, what colour is it?

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:12:33
From: Michael V
ID: 2040899
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Peak Warming Man said:


Woodie said:

WOO HOO!!

Just ordered it all. Filaments, nozzles and all the kit and caboodle!.

Get in there and it’s EOFY sale. Printer $189 cheaper than it was the other day.😁 Filaments and stuff 30% off as well!

All good things come to those that wait, I suppose. 😁

Excellent, what colour is it?

That’s what she asked.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:12:55
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2040900
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Woodie said:


Spiny Norman said:

Woodie said:

WOO HOO!!

Just ordered it all. Filaments, nozzles and all the kit and caboodle!.

Get in there and it’s EOFY sale. Printer $189 cheaper than it was the other day.😁 Filaments and stuff 30% off as well!

All good things come to those that wait, I suppose. 😁

Well done! Start with PLA filament, it’s much easier to get started with.

Got 6 kg grey PLA, and 2 kg of grey ABS. Discounted to $17 a 1 kg roll. Full range of nozzle sizes from 0.2mm – 1.0 mm, and a nozzle cleaning kit.

Being prepared for a few stuff ups is a good thing, Ize reckons.

As you no doubt know, keep the filament dry and even look at getting a food dehydrator to give the spools a dry every now and then. Go for the standard 0.4 mm nozzle for starters, you’ll rarely need a smaller one and even less likely to need a larger one. Have a look at some YT vids on how to install the nozzle as it’s not simply a matter of screwing it in until it starts to get tight – You have to heat the extruder block up to about 250° and then tighten the nozzle. That helps ensure there’ll be no gap that can cause clogs & jams.
Teaching Tech is a good YT channel to see how all this stuff works.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:13:02
From: Woodie
ID: 2040901
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Bubblecar said:


Woodie said:

WOO HOO!!

Just ordered it all. Filaments, nozzles and all the kit and caboodle!.

Get in there and it’s EOFY sale. Printer $189 cheaper than it was the other day.😁 Filaments and stuff 30% off as well!

All good things come to those that wait, I suppose. 😁

Good score. Looking forward to seeing some interesting models.

The learning curve for these things is considerable from what I can discern, Parpyone.. These things ain’t no plug’n‘play pieces of apparatuses.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:14:33
From: Michael V
ID: 2040904
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Woodie said:


Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

WOO HOO!!

Just ordered it all. Filaments, nozzles and all the kit and caboodle!.

Get in there and it’s EOFY sale. Printer $189 cheaper than it was the other day.😁 Filaments and stuff 30% off as well!

All good things come to those that wait, I suppose. 😁

Good score. Looking forward to seeing some interesting models.

The learning curve for these things is considerable from what I can discern, Parpyone.. These things ain’t no plug’n‘play pieces of apparatuses.

At least it will keep you off the streets.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:14:54
From: Woodie
ID: 2040905
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Peak Warming Man said:


Woodie said:

WOO HOO!!

Just ordered it all. Filaments, nozzles and all the kit and caboodle!.

Get in there and it’s EOFY sale. Printer $189 cheaper than it was the other day.😁 Filaments and stuff 30% off as well!

All good things come to those that wait, I suppose. 😁

Excellent, what colour is it?

Basic black, Mr Man. Basic black.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:15:40
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2040907
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Woodie said:


Spiny Norman said:

Woodie said:

WOO HOO!!

Just ordered it all. Filaments, nozzles and all the kit and caboodle!.

Get in there and it’s EOFY sale. Printer $189 cheaper than it was the other day.😁 Filaments and stuff 30% off as well!

All good things come to those that wait, I suppose. 😁

Well done! Start with PLA filament, it’s much easier to get started with.

Got 6 kg grey PLA, and 2 kg of grey ABS. Discounted to $17 a 1 kg roll. Full range of nozzle sizes from 0.2mm – 1.0 mm, and a nozzle cleaning kit.

Being prepared for a few stuff ups is a good thing, Ize reckons.

ABS needs good ventilation as it gives off nasty fumes.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:17:07
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2040909
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

JudgeMental said:


Woodie said:

Spiny Norman said:

Well done! Start with PLA filament, it’s much easier to get started with.

Got 6 kg grey PLA, and 2 kg of grey ABS. Discounted to $17 a 1 kg roll. Full range of nozzle sizes from 0.2mm – 1.0 mm, and a nozzle cleaning kit.

Being prepared for a few stuff ups is a good thing, Ize reckons.

ABS needs good ventilation as it gives off nasty fumes.

It also shrinks a lot and unless you’re printing small parts it’ll crack & just be annoying.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:19:30
From: JudgeMental
ID: 2040911
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Spiny Norman said:


JudgeMental said:

Woodie said:

Got 6 kg grey PLA, and 2 kg of grey ABS. Discounted to $17 a 1 kg roll. Full range of nozzle sizes from 0.2mm – 1.0 mm, and a nozzle cleaning kit.

Being prepared for a few stuff ups is a good thing, Ize reckons.

ABS needs good ventilation as it gives off nasty fumes.

It also shrinks a lot and unless you’re printing small parts it’ll crack & just be annoying.

the range of filament material these days means there probably is something better than ABS.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:23:07
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2040912
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

I think the first thing to print is Hello World.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:23:12
From: Woodie
ID: 2040913
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Spiny Norman said:


Woodie said:

Spiny Norman said:

Well done! Start with PLA filament, it’s much easier to get started with.

Got 6 kg grey PLA, and 2 kg of grey ABS. Discounted to $17 a 1 kg roll. Full range of nozzle sizes from 0.2mm – 1.0 mm, and a nozzle cleaning kit.

Being prepared for a few stuff ups is a good thing, Ize reckons.

As you no doubt know, keep the filament dry and even look at getting a food dehydrator to give the spools a dry every now and then. Go for the standard 0.4 mm nozzle for starters, you’ll rarely need a smaller one and even less likely to need a larger one. Have a look at some YT vids on how to install the nozzle as it’s not simply a matter of screwing it in until it starts to get tight – You have to heat the extruder block up to about 250° and then tighten the nozzle. That helps ensure there’ll be no gap that can cause clogs & jams.
Teaching Tech is a good YT channel to see how all this stuff works.

There was just the one that came with a filament dryer. Can’t remember which one now. I have not noticed, or seen a separate filament dryer. The slicer (Cura) takes some print jobs out to days, if you drop the nozzle size to 0.2mm. “Draft” using 1mm nozzle? a few hours, if that.

Bed levelling seems to be a vital thing in getting your first layer down properly. It has ABL (Automatic Bed Levelling) as part of setup, however I’ve seen how to modify your “G Code” to do an ABL prior to every print.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:23:56
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2040915
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Peak Warming Man said:


I think the first thing to print is Hello World.

No no, that’s a programming meme.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:24:46
From: Woodie
ID: 2040917
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

Good score. Looking forward to seeing some interesting models.

The learning curve for these things is considerable from what I can discern, Parpyone.. These things ain’t no plug’n‘play pieces of apparatuses.

At least it will keep you off the streets.

I’ll 3D print you a new knee. Mrs V already has hers.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:25:47
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2040918
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

JudgeMental said:


Spiny Norman said:

JudgeMental said:

ABS needs good ventilation as it gives off nasty fumes.

It also shrinks a lot and unless you’re printing small parts it’ll crack & just be annoying.

the range of filament material these days means there probably is something better than ABS.

Yeah there’s heaps now. I even designed and printed a flexible case for Spocky’s phone, out of flexible PLA. I had to make a new one every few months though as it’d eventually start to fall apart. But in about three hours I made a new one for her.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:26:28
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2040919
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I think the first thing to print is Hello World.

No no, that’s a programming meme.

Yeah, start with “Hello weld” instead.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:27:07
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2040920
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Woodie said:


Bed levelling seems to be a vital thing in getting your first layer down properly. It has ABL (Automatic Bed Levelling) as part of setup, however I’ve seen how to modify your “G Code” to do an ABL prior to every print.

Yep getting the first layer down well is the most important and often difficult thing to get right. If it’s got auto-levelling that’ll make your life ever so much easier.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:28:55
From: Woodie
ID: 2040921
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

JudgeMental said:


Spiny Norman said:

JudgeMental said:

ABS needs good ventilation as it gives off nasty fumes.

It also shrinks a lot and unless you’re printing small parts it’ll crack & just be annoying.

the range of filament material these days means there probably is something better than ABS.

All the model kits you get are injection molded ABS, and RTR (Ready to Run) say they are ABS as well, so I thought I’d get some anyway, and see if it’s any good.

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:32:25
From: Woodie
ID: 2040924
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Peak Warming Man said:


I think the first thing to print is Hello World.

Easy peasy. 😁

Just download and print.

https://www.stlfinder.com/model/hello-world-J3H7vyJJ/1388518/

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Date: 7/06/2023 19:39:27
From: Woodie
ID: 2040925
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Spiny Norman said:


Woodie said:

Bed levelling seems to be a vital thing in getting your first layer down properly. It has ABL (Automatic Bed Levelling) as part of setup, however I’ve seen how to modify your “G Code” to do an ABL prior to every print.

Yep getting the first layer down well is the most important and often difficult thing to get right. If it’s got auto-levelling that’ll make your life ever so much easier.

Yes. Quite a few Youchoobs tell me the Creality has probs on your first bed levelling. The y axis runners can be loose (Print bed wobbles when handled) and you need to tighten some of the bolts. Otherwise the ABL will take a ruddy great gouge out of your carborundum coated glass flatbed. Forewarned is forearmed. These youchoobs are quite old, and I understand the QC control in manufacture has fixed this.

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Date: 7/06/2023 20:02:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2040930
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Peak Warming Man said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I think the first thing to print is Hello World.

No no, that’s a programming meme.

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/hello-world-stamp-and-handle

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Date: 7/06/2023 20:04:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2040933
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Hello world!

https://github.com/AlfredoSequeida/hello-world

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Date: 7/06/2023 20:06:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2040934
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

https://github.com/AlfredoSequeida/hello-world

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Date: 7/06/2023 20:10:45
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2040936
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

https://library.qc.cuny.edu/makerspace/say-hello-world-as-a-3dprint/

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Date: 7/06/2023 20:12:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2040939
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Article about 3D printing

Hello world! and 1000 hours of 3D-printing!

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Date: 7/06/2023 20:16:27
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2040942
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/

https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/g2sxi9/hello_world_my_first_3d_print/

https://www.3dbenchy.com/3dbenchy-a-small-giant-in-the-world-of-3d-printing/

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Date: 7/06/2023 20:18:08
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2040944
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

3D Printing Resources

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Date: 7/06/2023 20:40:30
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2040952
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Shoot for the Stars – 3D Printed Solar System: 10 Great Orreries & Models

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Date: 7/06/2023 20:48:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2040961
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

I like Orreries

Building an Orrery: Printing the Parts
https://www.imade-athing.com/things/mechatronics/orrery/2016/12/18/orrery-printing.html

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Date: 7/06/2023 20:49:42
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2040963
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Tau.Neutrino said:


https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/

https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/g2sxi9/hello_world_my_first_3d_print/

https://www.3dbenchy.com/3dbenchy-a-small-giant-in-the-world-of-3d-printing/

FWIW just for a laugh I’m drawing up a printer that can only print one thing – The Benchy!
There’s a 3D printing competition to see who can print one the fastest. It’s down to about two and a half minutes now. I figure that the larger the printer the more mass there is to move around so my printer is tiny, the bed is only 60mm x 60mm so about quarter the bed area of a small printer.
One big problem is to get enough filament though the nozzle but I have a cunning plan for that. :)
Here’s a picture of the top part of it now.

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Date: 7/06/2023 20:57:08
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2040970
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Spiny Norman said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/

https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/g2sxi9/hello_world_my_first_3d_print/

https://www.3dbenchy.com/3dbenchy-a-small-giant-in-the-world-of-3d-printing/

FWIW just for a laugh I’m drawing up a printer that can only print one thing – The Benchy!
There’s a 3D printing competition to see who can print one the fastest. It’s down to about two and a half minutes now. I figure that the larger the printer the more mass there is to move around so my printer is tiny, the bed is only 60mm x 60mm so about quarter the bed area of a small printer.
One big problem is to get enough filament though the nozzle but I have a cunning plan for that. :)
Here’s a picture of the top part of it now.


If you had 2 printing heads could you print 2 sides at the same time.?

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Date: 7/06/2023 21:32:40
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 2040987
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Tau.Neutrino said:


Spiny Norman said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/

https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/g2sxi9/hello_world_my_first_3d_print/

https://www.3dbenchy.com/3dbenchy-a-small-giant-in-the-world-of-3d-printing/

FWIW just for a laugh I’m drawing up a printer that can only print one thing – The Benchy!
There’s a 3D printing competition to see who can print one the fastest. It’s down to about two and a half minutes now. I figure that the larger the printer the more mass there is to move around so my printer is tiny, the bed is only 60mm x 60mm so about quarter the bed area of a small printer.
One big problem is to get enough filament though the nozzle but I have a cunning plan for that. :)
Here’s a picture of the top part of it now.


If you had 2 printing heads could you print 2 sides at the same time.?

Kind-of.
There’s print heads that have two nozzles but they aren’t all that popular as there’s often a problem with the other nozzle dragging along the top layer and not infrequently knocking the part off the bed.
There’s also nozzle systems that have two filament feeds into the one nozzle and they work better but are very heavy and need quite a lot of purging to get the previous filament out of the system when swapping over.
What’s becoming more popular is to have two (or more) complete print heads, each with their own filament, so the swapping over process is much faster and cleaner. There’s an additional mechanism in the unit that holds the extruder unit so it can pick the extruder unit required. Different filaments or nozzle diameters, etc.
The big printer I’m building, I designed it so it could have four or maybe four individual extruder units to pick from.

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Date: 7/06/2023 21:55:08
From: buffy
ID: 2040997
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Peak Warming Man said:


I think the first thing to print is Hello World.

Nah, the first thing to do is to go around the house and shed and see what things have broken bits and make a list. So you can make replacement bits.

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Date: 7/06/2023 22:03:21
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 2040998
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I think the first thing to print is Hello World.

Nah, the first thing to do is to go around the house and shed and see what things have broken bits and make a list. So you can make replacement bits.

+1

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Date: 7/06/2023 22:03:55
From: Woodie
ID: 2040999
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

buffy said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I think the first thing to print is Hello World.

Nah, the first thing to do is to go around the house and shed and see what things have broken bits and make a list. So you can make replacement bits.

I don’t think a plastic lawn mower is gunna work very well, Ms Buffy. 😊

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Date: 7/06/2023 22:08:02
From: buffy
ID: 2041000
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

Woodie said:


buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I think the first thing to print is Hello World.

Nah, the first thing to do is to go around the house and shed and see what things have broken bits and make a list. So you can make replacement bits.

I don’t think a plastic lawn mower is gunna work very well, Ms Buffy. 😊

You’re not making whole things, just broken bits. Like my Kenwood mixer – I broke the little plastic release handle many moons ago, so I keep a small pair of pliers on the bench to release the top from the bowl. That sort of thing. (I think I’ve still got the broken bit in a drawer. Now I’m retired I should see about carving a piece of wood to use instead).

:)

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Date: 7/06/2023 23:14:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 2041007
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

buffy said:


Woodie said:

buffy said:

Nah, the first thing to do is to go around the house and shed and see what things have broken bits and make a list. So you can make replacement bits.

I don’t think a plastic lawn mower is gunna work very well, Ms Buffy. 😊

You’re not making whole things, just broken bits. Like my Kenwood mixer – I broke the little plastic release handle many moons ago, so I keep a small pair of pliers on the bench to release the top from the bowl. That sort of thing. (I think I’ve still got the broken bit in a drawer. Now I’m retired I should see about carving a piece of wood to use instead).

:)

Or get into casting. Make a casting in aluminium.

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Date: 7/01/2024 15:55:56
From: Kingy
ID: 2111541
Subject: re: To 3D print or not to 3D print. That is the question.

This seems like a cool project for someone with a 3D printer and some spare time.

https://www.instructables.com/Triaxial-Numechron-Clock/
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