A new thread for a new month!
Technically, yes.
In reality, however, it is best seen as a continuation of the previous thread, but with a new title.
Something like that, anyway.
AussieDJ said:
A new thread for a new month!Technically, yes.
In reality, however, it is best seen as a continuation of the previous thread, but with a new title.Something like that, anyway.
The tapestry moves and the monk illuminates the thread of the page.
roughbarked said:
AussieDJ said:
A new thread for a new month!Technically, yes.
In reality, however, it is best seen as a continuation of the previous thread, but with a new title.Something like that, anyway.
The tapestry moves and the monk illuminates the thread of the page.
And in performing said illumination, makes a faithful copy of what has gone before.
Although, if there’s a mistake in the text, that may also be copied forward.
(Cue the old gag about the discovery of a typographical error in a biblical translation – where monks were actually urged to celebrate rather than be celibate!)
AussieDJ said:
roughbarked said:
AussieDJ said:
A new thread for a new month!Technically, yes.
In reality, however, it is best seen as a continuation of the previous thread, but with a new title.Something like that, anyway.
The tapestry moves and the monk illuminates the thread of the page.
And in performing said illumination, makes a faithful copy of what has gone before.
Although, if there’s a mistake in the text, that may also be copied forward.(Cue the old gag about the discovery of a typographical error in a biblical translation – where monks were actually urged to celebrate rather than be celibate!)
Yeah I rememeber that joke well. Which may well have prompted my fingers to type the word, monk. ;)
roughbarked said:
AussieDJ said:
roughbarked said:The tapestry moves and the monk illuminates the thread of the page.
And in performing said illumination, makes a faithful copy of what has gone before.
Although, if there’s a mistake in the text, that may also be copied forward.(Cue the old gag about the discovery of a typographical error in a biblical translation – where monks were actually urged to celebrate rather than be celibate!)
Yeah I rememeber that joke well. Which may well have prompted my fingers to type the word, monk. ;)
I rememeber when… I put ine too many e’s in.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
AussieDJ said:And in performing said illumination, makes a faithful copy of what has gone before.
Although, if there’s a mistake in the text, that may also be copied forward.(Cue the old gag about the discovery of a typographical error in a biblical translation – where monks were actually urged to celebrate rather than be celibate!)
Yeah I rememeber that joke well. Which may well have prompted my fingers to type the word, monk. ;)
I rememeber when… I put ine too many e’s in.
and now I am sounding pissed when I mix my typo’s up.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Yeah I rememeber that joke well. Which may well have prompted my fingers to type the word, monk. ;)
I rememeber when… I put ine too many e’s in.
and now I am sounding pissed when I mix my typo’s up.
Roll that tapestry further and maybe Putin will stop lying to his people.
The defendant in the rape case below is Bruce Lehrman.
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A high profile man is seeking a further six months of phone data from the woman he is alleged to have raped after the discovery of “important” communications, a court has heard.
The man was charged with two counts of rape in January this year by detectives from the Toowoomba Criminal Investigation Branch over the alleged incident in Toowoomba in October 2021.
His identity remains protected under Queensland law which prohibits the identification of those charged with sexual assault or rape offences until they are committed to stand trial.
On Wednesday, Toowoomba Magistrates Court was told a forensic medical report (FMO), which had been previously requested, had been disclosed.
A full forensic download of the complainant’s phone records had also been requested, but has not yet been agreed to.
Lawyer Rowan King, who is acting for the man, said he was seeking further communications from the phone to be disclosed.
The court was told the request was for alleged messages “six months prior to the offence date”.
“Some communications have been disclosed, but they refer to earlier communications,” Mr King said.
“We are instructed to pursue an application for disclosure.
“Ultimately those communications appear to be quite important to the defence case.”
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/fresh-claim-high-profile-rape-010700596.html
Honest Government Ad | COP31: Australia & The Pacific
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBjyxA-wYS4
LOL Nice Deflection ¡
It also suggested the ban of TikTok on government devices should extend to contractors’ devices who are working on government projects — contractors such as Ernst and Young, PWC and Deloitte could fall under that umbrella.
The sea eagle chicks are going well so far.
Rong thread, sorry.
Former Wilderness Society campaign manager elected to parliament
Vica Bayley has been elected to the House of Assembly through a recount.
Former longtime Wilderness Society campaign manager Vica Bayley will enter Parliament when sittings resume next week to take the seat left vacant by former Greens leader Cassy O’Connor last month.
The electoral commission at midday on Monday started the redistribution of Ms O’Connor’s 10,626 ballot papers among 10 candidates.
Mr Bayley scored 37 per cent of the Ms O’Connor’s preferences from the start, compared to the next leading Greens candidate Bec Taylor who won 27 per cent of preferences.
The margin between the two Green candidates narrowed progressively as candidates were excluded from the contest with significantly more votes from party candidate Tim Smith going to Ms Taylor over Mr Bayley.
ACM reporters hit the streets around Tasmania, Victoria, and NSW to find out how regional Australians really feel about the upcoming Indigenous Voice To Parliament referendum.
Mr Bayley had 45.4 per cent of votes to Ms Taylor’s 40.6 per cent of votes by the time it came down to the distribution of independent candidate Sue Hickey’s 1454 votes – or 15 per cent of votes overall.
Mr Bayley won the majority of Ms Hickey’s votes at the end of the count, ensuring his election.
A trained teacher, Mr Bayley – through his role with the Wilderness Society – played an instrumental party in the negotiation of the Tasmanian Forests Agreement during Labor’s last years in power between 2010 and 2014.
In 2019, he ran as an independent in Nelson Legislative Council election where he came in second to fellow independent Meg Webb.
Coroner finds woman in 70s died while being ramped at Launceston General Hospital for eight hours
Amber Wilson
Ramping at Launceston General Hospital in January this year.
A coroner says he is “pessimistic” about Tasmania’s ambulance ramping crisis after a Launceston woman died having been ramped for almost eight hours.
In his findings published on Tuesday, Coroner Robert Webster said 71-year-old Anne Helen Pedler died from lung blood clots and deep vein thrombosis while ramped and waiting for a CT scan at Launceston General Hospital (LGH).
“Ramping” is a term used when emergency departments reach capacity, with patients forced to wait in ambulances on the ramp outside the hospital, often unable to access the treatment they need.
Mr Webster said an ambulance was called to the woman’s Kings Meadows home just before midnight on August 5, arriving at the LGH about 12.45am.
Mrs Pedler, who was suffering shortness of breath, nausea and dizziness, was medically reviewed with an electrocardiogram, and a pulmonary embolism considered likely.
Mr Webster said pathology tests were run and a CT scan requested, but not performed.
About 8.30am, while still ramped and under the care of Ambulance Tasmania, Mrs Pedler suffered a cardiac arrest and died.
A root cause analysis conducted by the Tasmania Health Service noted Mrs Pedler had remained in the care of paramedics as no beds were available for her in the hospital.
The analysis found although her pathology request was marked urgent, with her blood test sent for screening “without delay”, the on-call pathologist was not alerted with a follow-up phone call.
It said after-hours, when medical imaging staff weren’t rostered on, the printer was not checked for requests – so staff were only alerted to urgent requests via a phone call.
“Consequently, the results did not become available until hours later,” the report said.
The analysis also noted an urgent scan was necessary to provide a “definitive diagnosis” and form an initial medical plan, but there was a long delay in ordering the scan due to waiting for the urgent blood results.
The analysis team made a number of recommendations, including the establishment of a 24-hour radiology service at the LGH, and training for staff in how to request diagnostic tests out of hours.
The team said Mrs Pedler’s condition had been potentially survivable if an anticoagulant had been given to her in the emergency department.
A coronial medical consultant said the severity of her illness had been “underestimated in the extreme”.
Mr Webster said while he couldn’t say if Mrs Pedler would have survived if she’d received treatment in a timely manner, he slammed her treatment as “substandard”.
He said he was pessimistic about any progress being made on ramping, noting the pressure on emergency departments across the country.
“Sadly it seems to me until issues associated with the resourcing of emergency departments and access to general practitioners are resolved, by those with the responsibility and power over such issues, cases like this one will continue to occur,” he said.
Mr Webster also noted the analysis team had been “silent” on what the Tasmania Health System proposed to do about ramping.
In November last year, 80-year-old woman Kathleen Schramm died after being ramped at the Royal Hobart Hospital for two hours.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/jeff-kennett-tassie-needs-a-new-afl-stadium-but-not-in-hobart/news-story/3a11b337490603e45a8796d8bbcb5f70
Great idea Jeff. Then we can move people to Launceston.
Housing package politics: is something better than nothing? Meet the HAFF lookalike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkl-oOdwfgA
Please excuse my exuberance.
OCDC said:
Please excuse my exuberance.In chat…
This Hit Piece Though
Speaking of the Chairman’s Lounge, which comfortably generates the highest return on invested capital in the entire Qantas Group, you would not believe who has earned himself access to the pleasures hidden behind its discreet entrance. None other than the prime minister’s 23-year-old son, Nathan Albanese. It’s the stuff tinpot African republics are made of. Everyone knows Joyce personally curates the Chairman’s Lounge membership list. Did Qantas offer this extravagant benefit to Albanese or did Albanese request it for his son? When asked this week, neither the airline nor the Prime Minister’s Office would explain. But did any of them really think a university student sweeping into the Chairman’s Lounge like a lord wouldn’t stand out like dog’s balls?
Sorry wrong
In the late 19th and early 20th century, Vienna was one of the premier cities of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Europe more broadly.
“Many people moved into the city, but there was not enough proper housing for them,” Julia Anna Schranz, a historian at the University of Vienna, tells ABC RN’s Rear Vision.
The end of World War I saw the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Austria became a republic
sorry we mean right.
Sheesh calm down what happens between two consenting adults
Text exchanges between Australian Federal Police (AFP) Commissioner Reece Kershaw and PwC partner Mick Fuller have revealed more extensive conversations between the pair than the commissioner previously suggested to parliament.
is only acceptable if it crosses the desk of the defence minister.
Bridget Archer crosses floor to defend Albanese
Liberal MP Bridget Archer has voted with Labor to quash a Coalition attack on Anthony Albanese regarding the Voice to Parliament.
The Coalition failed to move a motion criticising Albanese’s “divisive” approach to the Voice, with Archer choosing to vote against it with the government (Daily Telegraph $).
In a fiery final day of the parliamentary sitting week, the prime minister slammed opposition frontbenchers for refusing to attend the Garma Indigenous festival and attacked Peter Dutton for opposing the apology to the Stolen Generations.
Albanese declared that Liberal MP Julian Leeser, who quit the opposition frontbench to support the Voice, had “more honour in his little finger than the frontbench combined”.
Dutton accused Albanese of being “shifty” about whether the Voice will lead to a Treaty, an issue the prime minister is trying to steer clear of as scare campaigns ramp up around the referendum (The Politics).
sarahs mum said:
Bridget Archer crosses floor to defend Albanese
Liberal MP Bridget Archer has voted with Labor to quash a Coalition attack on Anthony Albanese regarding the Voice to Parliament.
The Coalition failed to move a motion criticising Albanese’s “divisive” approach to the Voice, with Archer choosing to vote against it with the government (Daily Telegraph $).
In a fiery final day of the parliamentary sitting week, the prime minister slammed opposition frontbenchers for refusing to attend the Garma Indigenous festival and attacked Peter Dutton for opposing the apology to the Stolen Generations.
Albanese declared that Liberal MP Julian Leeser, who quit the opposition frontbench to support the Voice, had “more honour in his little finger than the frontbench combined”.
Dutton accused Albanese of being “shifty” about whether the Voice will lead to a Treaty, an issue the prime minister is trying to steer clear of as scare campaigns ramp up around the referendum (The Politics).
Yeah
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Surely not afraid of losing a super majority¿
dv said:
Ooo.
Interesting Positions To Take
About time we did this. At the very least.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-08/government-hardens-against-israel-palestine-settlements/102702558
buffy said:
About time we did this. At the very least.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-08/government-hardens-against-israel-palestine-settlements/102702558
Yes.
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
‘Ken good one!
Law And Order ¡
Peter Dutton knocked back a funding request recommended to help prevent crime
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
‘Ken good one!
Law And Order ¡
Peter Dutton knocked back a funding request recommended to help prevent crime
Probably because he didn’t want to get busted.
Kingy said:
SCIENCE said:Michael V said:
‘Ken good one!
Law And Order ¡
Peter Dutton knocked back a funding request recommended to help prevent crime
Probably because he didn’t want to get busted.
Former QLD copper couldn’t be shady surely?
So the latest is that with the Voice referendum voters will be required to write either YES or NO down on the ballot and not merely tick or mark next to one of the two alternatives. Or so I’ve been told.
So the latest is that with the Voice referendum voters will be required to write either YES or NO down on the ballot and not merely tick or mark next to one of the two alternatives. Or so I’ve been told.
Witty Rejoinder said:
So the latest is that with the Voice referendum voters will be required to write either YES or NO down on the ballot and not merely tick or mark next to one of the two alternatives. Or so I’ve been told.
Seems to be the usual requirement. Didn’t have that remembered from previous referendums.
https://www.aec.gov.au/elections/referendums/1999_referendum_reports_statistics/yes_no_pamphlet.pdf
The Labor government is reverting to Howard-era nomenclature, and moving more in line with our international allies, by once again referring to the occupied territories as Occupied Territories.
dv said:
The Labor government is reverting to Howard-era nomenclature, and moving more in line with our international allies, by once again referring to the occupied territories as Occupied Territories.
What would you prefer they be called?
roughbarked said:
dv said:
The Labor government is reverting to Howard-era nomenclature, and moving more in line with our international allies, by once again referring to the occupied territories as Occupied Territories.
What would you prefer they be called?
Light-coloured calculus.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
The Labor government is reverting to Howard-era nomenclature, and moving more in line with our international allies, by once again referring to the occupied territories as Occupied Territories.
What would you prefer they be called?
Nah I’m fine with it
dv said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:
The Labor government is reverting to Howard-era nomenclature, and moving more in line with our international allies, by once again referring to the occupied territories as Occupied Territories.
What would you prefer they be called?
Nah I’m fine with it
OK then.
What a weak act.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-10/privacy-investigation-finds-vicforests-spied-on-environmentalist/102711008
Growing increasingly disappointed in Dan and the state of integrity, or lack there of, in this Labor government. Dan should go ASAP IMO.
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Andrews’ never-apologise shtick won’t help debt-saddled Labor
Shaun Carney
Columnist
August 10, 2023 — 5.00am
Is Daniel Andrews over the whole premier of Victoria thing? Increasingly it seems that way. Take his almost celebratory tone as he announced the decision not to host the 2026 Commonwealth Games last month: “I have made a lot of difficult calls, a lot of very difficult decisions in this job. This is not one of them. Frankly, $6 billion to $7 billion for a 12-day sporting event – we are not doing that.”
Fair enough. But his scornful phrasing was surely appropriate only if he was cancelling a decision by someone else. Hosting the Games and running them out of the state’s regional centres was his idea. Yet when the idea was exposed as an expensive, unworkable dud 15 months after it was announced, there was not a hint of contrition or humility. He could not be bothered with any of that.
Premier Daniel Andrews is becoming known for his scornful phrasing, defiance in the face of criticism and difficulty with admitting error. LUIS ASCUI
In recent days, he has repeated the bulldozer routine around the member for Ringwood, Will Fowles. After an assault allegation was made against Fowles, Andrews demanded and received his resignation from the caucus.
Fowles denies the allegation and has expressed the hope that if he clears his name, he can return to Labor’s parliamentary ranks. Andrews on Tuesday was having none of that, declaring “resignations are not in my experience temporary”.
Well, readmission to the caucus would be a decision for the caucus, not the leader. And does the premier want to go so hard as to push Fowles out of the parliament, causing a byelection in Ringwood that Labor could easily lose? A loss would not change the balance of power in the lower house, but it would transform the state’s political atmospherics.
Andrews’ default to defiance in the face of criticism and his difficulty with admitting error is a habit he developed from his earliest moments as Labor leader. From the start in 2010, the News Corp mastheads have campaigned against him without pause.
These days, he refuses to be interviewed by Neil Mitchell on 3AW and Virginia Trioli on ABC radio. Instead, he has created his own vigorous constituency on social media. Clearly, his strategy has worked, enabling him to win a third term by a large margin even after the government’s catastrophic mishandling of hotel quarantine in 2020.
For the first half of Andrews’ time as premier, the go-to explanation for his consistently high numbers was the poor condition of the Victorian Liberals, thus denying voters a viable alternative government.
Today, the real explanation looks simpler. Most Victorians haven’t cared that much about IBAC reports and stern warnings from the Ombudsman. They have just liked a government that says it will do quite a few things and, in most cases, has set about doing them. And really, this is where the Labor Party’s current problems start.
For the first time in this government’s life, because its debt levels are dangerously high, its program is on retreat. That undermines its biggest political advantage. The Commonwealth Games farce is just the highest-profile example. Public sector jobs are being slashed, the Western Rail plan is diluted, airport rail is on hold. Competence and delivery on such things as new schools and level crossing removals have been Labor’s selling point. Over-promising and under-delivering is bad for every government, but absolute poison for this one.
If Andrews and his ministers are alive to these dangers, it doesn’t show.
But Andrews dominates his government in ways that few other premiers have ever managed. He rarely, if ever, hears a dissenting voice inside the cabinet room, the caucus, or the party apparatus. He has even broken new ground by trying to ensure that Jacinta Allan has first dibs on replacing him when he goes, something no other Labor leader has attempted.
All the more reason for him to think hard about what he bequeaths to her and whether his trademark never-apologise, never-explain shtick is suitable in the government’s more constrained political environment.
Perhaps it is time for whatever voices of dissent exist in the party to start speaking up.
https://amp.theage.com.au/national/victoria/andrews-never-apologise-shtick-won-t-help-debt-saddled-labor-20230809-p5dv6s.html
Oh Annabel….
:)
“it’s understood Mr Morrison is considering one main portrait plus five other secret ones that we don’t find out about right away.”
buffy said:
Oh Annabel….:)
“it’s understood Mr Morrison is considering one main portrait plus five other secret ones that we don’t find out about right away.”
Actually a lot of that article is amusing.
Fine portrait I reckon.
sarahs mum said:
Fine portrait I reckon.
+1
sarahs mum said:
Fine portrait I reckon.
Bing and Google both fail to recognise that painting.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Fine portrait I reckon.
Bing and Google both fail to recognise that painting.
from buffy’s link.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-10/this-week-in-parliament-kevin-rudd-uluru-statement-pharmacy-drug/102714336
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Fine portrait I reckon.
Bing and Google both fail to recognise that painting.
Bing Hitler and Barney Google have been off the scene for years, so it’s no surprise.
sarahs mum said:
Fine portrait I reckon.
A long time coming but a very finished job.
Couldn’t have been easy holding that pose for hours on end, year after year.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Fine portrait I reckon.
Bing and Google both fail to recognise that painting.
They’re a bit slow I guess. It was only published today.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Fine portrait I reckon.
A long time coming but a very finished job.
Couldn’t have been easy holding that pose for hours on end, year after year.
They had to wait for him to wrap up his concession speech.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Fine portrait I reckon.
A long time coming but a very finished job.
Couldn’t have been easy holding that pose for hours on end, year after year.
They had to wait for him to wrap up his concession speech.
they had to stuff the cat.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:Beat me to it (can’t stand that smarmy man).sarahs mum said:They had to wait for him to wrap up his concession speech.A long time coming but a very finished job.Fine portrait I reckon.
Couldn’t have been easy holding that pose for hours on end, year after year.
OCDC said:
party_pants said:Bubblecar said:Beat me to it (can’t stand that smarmy man).A long time coming but a very finished job.They had to wait for him to wrap up his concession speech.Couldn’t have been easy holding that pose for hours on end, year after year.
i don’t mind him. Morrison is streaks ahead in smarmy.
sarahs mum said:
OCDC said:There are no words I’m prepared to use for that one.party_pants said:i don’t mind him. Morrison is streaks ahead in smarmy.They had to wait for him to wrap up his concession speech.Beat me to it (can’t stand that smarmy man).
so much ASIAN in that image though
10/08/23
Andrew Laming, former MP for the seat of Bowman, was ordered to pay the Electoral Commission $20,000 for three Facebook posts on the “Redland Hospital: Let’s fight for fair funding” page, which he had been an administrator of before and after the May 2019 elections.
As the posts did not include his name and the town or city he lived in, Mr Laming breached the Commonwealth Electoral Act, Federal Court Justice Darryl Rangiah ruled on Wednesday (9 August) morning.
In the first post in issue, posted on 24 December 2018, Mr Laming referred to himself in the third person – purporting to be someone else – to “fact check” and praise his official announcement that he had boosted the Redland Hospital’s funding to $77 million.
Justice Rangiah said this first post was “particularly serious”
“It was not merely a case of Mr Laming omitting to notify his name and relevant town or city, but a deliberate attempt to disguise the fact that he was its author. Misleading conduct of that kind strikes at the core of the integrity of our electoral system,” he said.
Justice Rangiah found the post – which was seen by only six people – had been written in the third person because Mr Laming believed “his self-flattery is more likely to be accepted by viewers as true and his achievement admirable” if it appeared to come from someone else.
“I am persuaded by the lengths he went to in perpetrating the deception that his predominant purpose was self-promotion.
“If his predominant purpose was to communicate the funding boost, he would have done so without the deception,” Justice Rangiah said.
The second and third posts, which were admitted by Mr Laming, referred to the funding from both the Liberal and Labor parties for the Metro South Health and made several financial comparisons.
On the second day of the hearings, Mr Laming terminated his lawyers’ retainers and chose to represent himself.
Before he did so, his lawyers had prepared written submissions and had given oral submissions on the first date. Justice Rangiah found Mr Laming had “relied substantially” on those submissions.
“In these circumstances, I consider it appropriate and fair to acknowledge that the submissions made by his lawyers were considered, thorough and skilled,” Justice Rangiah said.
It is understood Mr Laming intends to appeal the decision.
https://www.lawyersweekly.com.au/biglaw/37897-former-mps-self-flattering-facebook-page-costs-him-20k
SCIENCE said:
so much ASIAN in that image though
you are reading it correctly.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:so much ASIAN in that image though
you are reading it correctly.
his office also merges with the indigenous art gallery.
It is all happening on Xitter
dv said:
It is all happening on Xitter
Chess players…again…
dv said:
It is all happening on Xitter
Twitter (X) is the most toxic social media platform around.. I can’t get over how incredibly awful people are to each other there, even about the most stupid things
dv said:
It is all happening on Xitter
Heh.
The artist should have gone a step further and animated that painting a little.
Cat could prowl back and forth as Kevin puts down his pen, scratches his balls, then picks up the pen again, coughs etc.
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
It is all happening on Xitter
Twitter (X) is the most toxic social media platform around.. I can’t get over how incredibly awful people are to each other there, even about the most stupid things
No you’re thinking of the Holiday Forum
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
It is all happening on Xitter
Twitter (X) is the most toxic social media platform around.. I can’t get over how incredibly awful people are to each other there, even about the most stupid things
Wait doesn’t the algorithm match one’s feed to one’s choices…
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
It is all happening on Xitter
Twitter (X) is the most toxic social media platform around.. I can’t get over how incredibly awful people are to each other there, even about the most stupid things
No you’re thinking of the Holiday Forum
That’s Antisocial Media So You’re Wrong
dv said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
It is all happening on Xitter
Twitter (X) is the most toxic social media platform around.. I can’t get over how incredibly awful people are to each other there, even about the most stupid things
No you’re thinking of the Holiday Forum
But was d-s really being serious?
Surely not?
Here’s a somewhat less painstaking Rudd portrait by Kobi Snow-Abeyratne.
SCIENCE said:
diddly-squat said:
dv said:
It is all happening on Xitter
Twitter (X) is the most toxic social media platform around.. I can’t get over how incredibly awful people are to each other there, even about the most stupid things
Wait doesn’t the algorithm match one’s feed to one’s choices…
Well I have to admit that a psychologist arguing about the chess in a Kevin Rudd painting really is right up my alley
Bubblecar said:
Here’s a somewhat less painstaking Rudd portrait by Kobi Snow-Abeyratne.
She’s a criminologist and that’s a crime
dv said:
It is all happening on Xitter
No probs with the cat
More highly-paid consultants…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-09/nsw-fire-and-rescue-consultant-fees/102706526
Michael V said:
More highly-paid consultants…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-09/nsw-fire-and-rescue-consultant-fees/102706526
sux.
This is what Zuc is suggesting for me today
dv said:
This is what Zuc is suggesting for me today
Do Know? Say yes.
I thought we had a Voice thread but I can’t find it in the index. (I don’t know how to search it, but I started from most current and went back a few months). Anyway, those wacky Sikhs are being useful again!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-11/the-drum-fully-sikh-multicultural-community-yes-grassroots/102718494
buffy said:
I thought we had a Voice thread but I can’t find it in the index. (I don’t know how to search it, but I started from most current and went back a few months). Anyway, those wacky Sikhs are being useful again!https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-11/the-drum-fully-sikh-multicultural-community-yes-grassroots/102718494
Press Ctrl-F and enter your search words.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
I thought we had a Voice thread but I can’t find it in the index. (I don’t know how to search it, but I started from most current and went back a few months). Anyway, those wacky Sikhs are being useful again!https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-11/the-drum-fully-sikh-multicultural-community-yes-grassroots/102718494
Press Ctrl-F and enter your search words.
Thank you. Apparently I never worked that out.
buffy said:
I thought we had a Voice thread but I can’t find it in the index. (I don’t know how to search it, but I started from most current and went back a few months). Anyway, those wacky Sikhs are being useful again!https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-11/the-drum-fully-sikh-multicultural-community-yes-grassroots/102718494
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
I thought we had a Voice thread but I can’t find it in the index. (I don’t know how to search it, but I started from most current and went back a few months). Anyway, those wacky Sikhs are being useful again!https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-11/the-drum-fully-sikh-multicultural-community-yes-grassroots/102718494
Buffy: search using Ctrl-F (the “Find” function in Windows). That’s how I found The Voice thread yesterday.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
I thought we had a Voice thread but I can’t find it in the index. (I don’t know how to search it, but I started from most current and went back a few months). Anyway, those wacky Sikhs are being useful again!https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-11/the-drum-fully-sikh-multicultural-community-yes-grassroots/102718494
Buffy: search using Ctrl-F (the “Find” function in Windows). That’s how I found The Voice thread yesterday.
Thanks someone did tell me that. Somehow I’d never found that function.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Buffy: search using Ctrl-F (the “Find” function in Windows). That’s how I found The Voice thread yesterday.
Thanks someone did tell me that. Somehow I’d never found that function.
:)
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:Buffy: search using Ctrl-F (the “Find” function in Windows). That’s how I found The Voice thread yesterday.
Thanks someone did tell me that. Somehow I’d never found that function.
:)
Sorry We Meant To Say Remember When Alt-F4 Used To Do All Kinds Of Fun And Interesting Things¡
SCIENCE said:
Sorry We Meant To Say Remember When Alt-F4 Used To Do All Kinds Of Fun And Interesting Things¡
Do not try this at home, folks.
CHINA breeders promote slavery¡
Thank you, Mr Bomp
https://www.threads.net/@albomp/post/Cv0k9wDBlkL/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
dv said:
Thank you, Mr Bomp
https://www.threads.net/@albomp/post/Cv0k9wDBlkL/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
you can call him Al.
dv said:
That shit blocks the plumbing.
So it was all just a trick to funnel millions of dollars into pockets of fascist poster boys we knew it¡
SCIENCE said:
So it was all just a trick to funnel millions of dollars into pockets of fascist poster boys we knew it¡
“..In the darkest days of the pandemic — when people didn’t know whether to wash the canned goods they’d brought home from the supermarket or buy a gas mask so they could safely exercise for one hour a day..”
dunno about that intro
transition said:
SCIENCE said:So it was all just a trick to funnel millions of dollars into pockets of fascist poster boys we knew it¡
“..In the darkest days of the pandemic — when people didn’t know whether to wash the canned goods they’d brought home from the supermarket or buy a gas mask so they could safely exercise for one hour a day..”
dunno about that intro
that’s the wrong post I put that in, give me a moment i’ll fix it
apologies
transition said:
SCIENCE said:So it was all just a trick to funnel millions of dollars into pockets of fascist poster boys we knew it¡
“..In the darkest days of the pandemic — when people didn’t know whether to wash the canned goods they’d brought home from the supermarket or buy a gas mask so they could safely exercise for one hour a day..”
dunno about that intro
Here is the regular reminder that Lehrmann has two active court cases involving charge of rape in Toowoomba.
Someone needs to remind him that his public behaviour can influence a jury’s attitude.
dv said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
So it was all just a trick to funnel millions of dollars into pockets of fascist poster boys we knew it¡
“..In the darkest days of the pandemic — when people didn’t know whether to wash the canned goods they’d brought home from the supermarket or buy a gas mask so they could safely exercise for one hour a day..”
dunno about that intro
Here is the regular reminder that Lehrmann has two active court cases involving charge of rape in Toowoomba.
Someone needs to remind him that his public behaviour can influence a jury’s attitude.
But if the Trump defence is anything to go by that all just makes it more favourable doesn’t it¿
Classic Marketing Move
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-14/nsw-public-holiday-matildas-womens-world-cup/102726016
Nice, voted out SCorruption Morrison and DOmicron Perrottet, got the same dudes regardless.
SCIENCE said:
Classic Marketing Move
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-14/nsw-public-holiday-matildas-womens-world-cup/102726016
Nice, voted out SCorruption Morrison and DOmicron Perrottet, got the same dudes regardless.
Public holiday sounds well OTT.
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
Classic Marketing Move
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-14/nsw-public-holiday-matildas-womens-world-cup/102726016
Nice, voted out SCorruption Morrison and DOmicron Perrottet, got the same dudes regardless.
Public holiday sounds well OTT.
We suppose they could call it a Hawke move and suddenly all the communists here would be gushing about it and in full throated support.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
transition said:
“..In the darkest days of the pandemic — when people didn’t know whether to wash the canned goods they’d brought home from the supermarket or buy a gas mask so they could safely exercise for one hour a day..”
dunno about that intro
Here is the regular reminder that Lehrmann has two active court cases involving charge of rape in Toowoomba.
Someone needs to remind him that his public behaviour can influence a jury’s attitude.
But if the Trump defence is anything to go by that all just makes it more favourable doesn’t it¿
Here is an update from the Lehrmann rape story, from last week
High-profile man awaits response to phone data request in rape case
August 9, 2023 – 11:30AM
A high-profile man seeking a further six months of phone data from the woman he is alleged to have raped will know within days whether he has permission to access the files, a court has been told.
The man was charged with two counts of rape in January.
Toowoomba Criminal Investigation Branch detectives will allege in court the man was involved in the alleged incident in Toowoomba in October 2021.
His identity remains protected under Queensland law which prohibits the identification of those charged with sexual assault or rape offences until they are committed to stand trial.
The man was not required to appear before Toowoomba Courthouse on Wednesday. Picture: NewsWire / Sarah Marshall
A full forensic download of the complainant’s phone records had also been requested, but has not yet been agreed to.
Lawyer Rowan King, who is acting for the man, had requested the full data download during the last court appearance in July.
The court was previously told in July the request was for alleged messages “six months prior to the offence date”.
The Director of Public Prosecutions prosecutor told the Toowoomba Magistrates Court on Wednesday her office had requested further explanation from Mr King on why he needed parts of the complainant’s download.
She said her office received Mr King’s response on August 3 and required more time to respond.
“This request is still being considered by the office,” the DPP prosecutor said.
The court was told Mr King will be informed of the DPP decision “within the week”.
The matter was adjourned to August 23 for further mention.
A forensic medical report (FMO) had been previously disclosed to Mr King upon request.
The DPP will allege the man and the alleged victim “were not known” to each other prior to the date of the alleged offence.
The man, who was not required to appear, had his bail continued.
Earlier this year several media organisations, including News Corp Australia, unsuccessfully applied to the court seeking permission to name the man in the proceedings.
That application remains before the courts.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/high-profile-man-awaits-response-to-phone-data-request-in-rape-case/news-story/d029f8a0cd364e52b7419c9d1153dceb%3famp
This Google amp link gets you past the paywall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-U7bABbMGQ
So how’s yous’llr SCIENCE week going¿
We won’t be able to make this one but
https://www.scienceweek.net.au/event/stem-town-hall-meeting-with-dr-monique-ryan-mp/hawthorn/
if any of yous do do please let us know how it went.
Exactly¡ It must have been
The woman who cooked a mushroom meal that is believed to have killed three people says she bought the fungi at a supermarket and an Asian grocery store, and was herself hospitalised after eating the meal. In a written statement sent to Victoria Police on Friday – and obtained exclusively by the ABC – Gippsland woman Erin Patterson has given her first detailed account of what transpired before and after the fatal lunch. “I am now wanting to clear up the record because I have become extremely stressed and overwhelmed by the deaths of my loved ones,” Ms Patterson said.
the ASIANS ¡
SCIENCE said:
Sad.
The far right are forever falling out.
SCIENCE said:
Sad.
A fall to the dark side
SCIENCE said:
Sad.
I’m not.
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
Exactly¡ It must have been
The woman who cooked a mushroom meal that is believed to have killed three people says she bought the fungi at a supermarket and an Asian grocery store, and was herself hospitalised after eating the meal. In a written statement sent to Victoria Police on Friday – and obtained exclusively by the ABC – Gippsland woman Erin Patterson has given her first detailed account of what transpired before and after the fatal lunch. “I am now wanting to clear up the record because I have become extremely stressed and overwhelmed by the deaths of my loved ones,” Ms Patterson said.
the ASIANS ¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-14/mushroom-poisoning-leongatha-erin-patterson-police-statement/102725876
Wait until they hear about the needles in the datura lettuce¡
Bogsnorkler said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
Exactly¡ It must have been
The woman who cooked a mushroom meal that is believed to have killed three people says she bought the fungi at a supermarket and an Asian grocery store, and was herself hospitalised after eating the meal. In a written statement sent to Victoria Police on Friday – and obtained exclusively by the ABC – Gippsland woman Erin Patterson has given her first detailed account of what transpired before and after the fatal lunch. “I am now wanting to clear up the record because I have become extremely stressed and overwhelmed by the deaths of my loved ones,” Ms Patterson said.
the ASIANS ¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-14/mushroom-poisoning-leongatha-erin-patterson-police-statement/102725876
Wait until they hear about the needles in the datura lettuce¡
Id like to read the full statement
The mushrooms from an Asian store is possibly believable some mislabelled product, but you’d think other cases of poisoning would happen it that is the case
I was thinking the same. others would have been poisoned.
Wait how many people actually got strawberries with needless in them or lettuce with antiNovichok¿
Arts said:
Arts said:
buffy said:
Perhaps it’s just not the mushrooms’ fault after all.
I don’t think toxicology has come back yet… I find her reasoning for getting rid of the dehydrator interesting.. am I interpreting this correctly? she got rid of it because she thought she would lose custody of her kids?
I am also unaware of the leeching aspects of cooked mushrooms into the rest of the meal… she said she scraped off the mushrooms to give the meal to her kids the next day… so it would be interesting to find out,..
again. Id really like to read the full statement verbatim
seriously, her inability to remember the mushrooms packets and relying on investigators to find them and present her with the packet for her to identify is in direct contrast to her distress at accidentally killing someone… think about it – if you cooked someone a meal and you accidentally killed them – wouldn’t you go back to the same store, same location same aisle to try to find the packet..
the investigators have failed here too… because they should not ever present her with her own evidence… that is shitty work… and will be contested in court no matter what…
ffs.. what a clusterfuck
LOL maybe she is a major major party donor¡
So do we know who is replacing Latham as NSW ONP leader?
dv said:
So do we know who is replacing Latham as NSW ONP leader?
no leader.
They’re Lucky Nobody Remembers How It All Ended Last Time Someone Tried This In A Chocolate Shop
But Obviously If You’re Rich Enough To Get On A Flight, You Get More Leeway
LOL fuck who needs foreign Interference when you can have espionage run by maximum capitalism¿
Australia’s cyber spy agency has been drawn into the widening KPMG scandal after awarding a $46 million contract to the consulting giant despite knowing it had inside information it could exploit from an earlier stage of the project.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-15/spy-agency-caught-up-in-kpmg-scandal/102728874
SCIENCE said:
LOL fuck who needs foreign Interference when you can have espionage run by maximum capitalism¿
Australia’s cyber spy agency has been drawn into the widening KPMG scandal after awarding a $46 million contract to the consulting giant despite knowing it had inside information it could exploit from an earlier stage of the project.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-15/spy-agency-caught-up-in-kpmg-scandal/102728874
Tell nowun nuffink.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
They’re Lucky Nobody Remembers How It All Ended Last Time Someone Tried This In A Chocolate Shop
But Obviously If You’re Rich Enough To Get On A Flight, You Get More Leeway
LOL fuck who needs foreign Interference when you can have espionage run by maximum capitalism¿
Australia’s cyber spy agency has been drawn into the widening KPMG scandal after awarding a $46 million contract to the consulting giant despite knowing it had inside information it could exploit from an earlier stage of the project.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-15/spy-agency-caught-up-in-kpmg-scandal/102728874
Tell nowun nuffink.
As yous can see these “intelligence” services are highly effective¡
again
They’re Lucky Nobody Remembers How It All Ended Last Time Someone Tried This In A Chocolate Shop
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
dv said:
Arts said:
Seriously, her inability to remember the mushrooms packets and relying on investigators to find them and present her with the packet for her to identify is in direct contrast to her distress at accidentally killing someone… think about it – if you cooked someone a meal and you accidentally killed them – wouldn’t you go back to the same store, same location same aisle to try to find the packet..
It’s possible she is distraught and not thinking straight
Anything is possible.
We agree that the prospect of being charged with a crime could indeed be distressing and cause people to act impulsively or irrationally.
LOL
“In essence they were button mushrooms from [a supermarket] and some dried mushrooms that I had purchased some time ago,” she said. “I used the dried mushrooms as they been in my cupboard for some time and I wanted to use them up. I rehydrated them and put them into the dish with the mushrooms that I had bought at [the supermarket].” Ms Patterson said she had told the Department of Health that she bought the dried mushrooms from an Asian grocer somewhere in Melbourne, but could not remember exactly which one. She then stored them at a house she owns in Melbourne for at least three months, Ms Patterson said, before taking them home to Leongatha to cook with.
All right we suppose if you have dried foods then having them stored for months before consumption is pretty reasonable.
“Essence” a perfect word for the occasion though.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL fuck who needs foreign Interference when you can have espionage run by maximum capitalism¿
Australia’s cyber spy agency has been drawn into the widening KPMG scandal after awarding a $46 million contract to the consulting giant despite knowing it had inside information it could exploit from an earlier stage of the project.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-15/spy-agency-caught-up-in-kpmg-scandal/102728874
Tell nowun nuffink.
As yous can see these “intelligence” services are highly effective¡
again
They’re Lucky Nobody Remembers How It All Ended Last Time Someone Tried This In A Chocolate Shop
Their chocolates aare terrible.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
Anything is possible.
We agree that the prospect of being charged with a crime could indeed be distressing and cause people to act impulsively or irrationally.
LOL
“In essence they were button mushrooms from [a supermarket] and some dried mushrooms that I had purchased some time ago,” she said. “I used the dried mushrooms as they been in my cupboard for some time and I wanted to use them up. I rehydrated them and put them into the dish with the mushrooms that I had bought at [the supermarket].” Ms Patterson said she had told the Department of Health that she bought the dried mushrooms from an Asian grocer somewhere in Melbourne, but could not remember exactly which one. She then stored them at a house she owns in Melbourne for at least three months, Ms Patterson said, before taking them home to Leongatha to cook with.
All right we suppose if you have dried foods then having them stored for months before consumption is pretty reasonable.
“Essence” a perfect word for the occasion though.
Not sure what it has to do with politics though.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
We agree that the prospect of being charged with a crime could indeed be distressing and cause people to act impulsively or irrationally.
LOL
“In essence they were button mushrooms from [a supermarket] and some dried mushrooms that I had purchased some time ago,” she said. “I used the dried mushrooms as they been in my cupboard for some time and I wanted to use them up. I rehydrated them and put them into the dish with the mushrooms that I had bought at [the supermarket].” Ms Patterson said she had told the Department of Health that she bought the dried mushrooms from an Asian grocer somewhere in Melbourne, but could not remember exactly which one. She then stored them at a house she owns in Melbourne for at least three months, Ms Patterson said, before taking them home to Leongatha to cook with.
All right we suppose if you have dried foods then having them stored for months before consumption is pretty reasonable.
“Essence” a perfect word for the occasion though.
Not sure what it has to do with politics though.
We apologise, there was no mushroom poisoning thread, and it was Australian, so it seemed more likely to keep it together than sprinkling the poison through chat.
SCIENCE said:
run by maximum capitalism¿Australia’s
LOL
But notching up a record $10 billion plus profit, even if it was only 5 per cent up on last year, at a time when hordes of your own customers are drowning under the weight of a dozen rate hikes was never going to go unnoticed. That it unleashed the kind of outrage normally reserved for those who have committed a heinous crime was an indication of just how sensitive the community has become to perceptions of profiteering and how insensitive it may be to actual profiteering.
Oh wait as long as it’s money making then it’s legal under maximum capitalism so it will never be a heinous crime, shit what a surprise¡
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
“In essence they were button mushrooms from [a supermarket] and some dried mushrooms that I had purchased some time ago,” she said. “I used the dried mushrooms as they been in my cupboard for some time and I wanted to use them up. I rehydrated them and put them into the dish with the mushrooms that I had bought at [the supermarket].” Ms Patterson said she had told the Department of Health that she bought the dried mushrooms from an Asian grocer somewhere in Melbourne, but could not remember exactly which one. She then stored them at a house she owns in Melbourne for at least three months, Ms Patterson said, before taking them home to Leongatha to cook with.
All right we suppose if you have dried foods then having them stored for months before consumption is pretty reasonable.
“Essence” a perfect word for the occasion though.
Not sure what it has to do with politics though.
We apologise, there was no mushroom poisoning thread, and it was Australian, so it seemed more likely to keep it together than sprinkling the poison through chat.
Apology accepted.
Anyway, difficult to prove because she likely used all the dried mushrooms up but three months previously she could have dried some death caps and thus the crime could be pre-meditated. If provable.
Well, it’sn’t Mongolia anyway.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-16/the-drum-renewable-manufacturing/102733124
LOL guess they’re just as corrupt hey¿
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
Classic Marketing Move
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-14/nsw-public-holiday-matildas-womens-world-cup/102726016
Nice, voted out SCorruption Morrison and DOmicron Perrottet, got the same dudes regardless.
Public holiday sounds well OTT.
We suppose they could call it a Hawke move and suddenly all the communists here would be gushing about it and in full throated support.
Residents of a suburban Sydney street have been allowed to return home after emergency services raided an apartment block and found radioactive material.
SCIENCE said:
Residents of a suburban Sydney street have been allowed to return home after emergency services raided an apartment block and found radioactive material.Banana for scale.
SCIENCE said:
Residents of a suburban Sydney street have been allowed to return home after emergency services raided an apartment block and found radioactive material.Banana for scale.
OCDC said:
SCIENCE said:Residents of a suburban Sydney street have been allowed to return home after emergency services raided an apartment block and found radioactive material.Banana for scale.
SCIENCE said:
Residents of a suburban Sydney street have been allowed to return home after emergency services raided an apartment block and found radioactive material.
Beardy weirdies?
Swimming Australia (SA) has called a special general meeting to avoid being kicked out of the sport’s global governing body World Aquatics.
The meeting will vote on a change to SA’s constitution.
It comes after World Aquatics threatened to remove SA’s membership because of what it saw as the sport’s governance problems.
“The message from the governing body is abundantly clear. If we don’t make these necessary changes, then our standing in the sport is in jeopardy,” Swimming Australia president Michelle Gallen said in a statement.
“These changes are aimed at our members and bringing much needed – and called for – change and stability to how our sport is governed.”
Australia is now the number one swimming nation in the world after a dominant performance at the recent world championships in Fukuoka.
Australian swimmers won 13 gold medals among 25 overall to finish on top of the medal table while breaking five world records.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-17/swimming-australia-threatened-with-expulsion-from-world-aquatics/102742290
dv said:
Swimming Australia (SA) has called a special general meeting to avoid being kicked out of the sport’s global governing body World Aquatics.The meeting will vote on a change to SA’s constitution.
It comes after World Aquatics threatened to remove SA’s membership because of what it saw as the sport’s governance problems.
“The message from the governing body is abundantly clear. If we don’t make these necessary changes, then our standing in the sport is in jeopardy,” Swimming Australia president Michelle Gallen said in a statement.
“These changes are aimed at our members and bringing much needed – and called for – change and stability to how our sport is governed.”
Australia is now the number one swimming nation in the world after a dominant performance at the recent world championships in Fukuoka.
Australian swimmers won 13 gold medals among 25 overall to finish on top of the medal table while breaking five world records.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-17/swimming-australia-threatened-with-expulsion-from-world-aquatics/102742290
The article is very thin on detail on what the problem is with the current arrangement and what changes are required. It is all a bit vague.
dv said:
Swimming Australia (SA) has called a special general meeting to avoid being kicked out of the sport’s global governing body World Aquatics.The meeting will vote on a change to SA’s constitution.
It comes after World Aquatics threatened to remove SA’s membership because of what it saw as the sport’s governance problems.
“The message from the governing body is abundantly clear. If we don’t make these necessary changes, then our standing in the sport is in jeopardy,” Swimming Australia president Michelle Gallen said in a statement.
“These changes are aimed at our members and bringing much needed – and called for – change and stability to how our sport is governed.”
Australia is now the number one swimming nation in the world after a dominant performance at the recent world championships in Fukuoka.
Australian swimmers won 13 gold medals among 25 overall to finish on top of the medal table while breaking five world records.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-17/swimming-australia-threatened-with-expulsion-from-world-aquatics/102742290
and no day off?
SCIENCE said:
Residents of a suburban Sydney street have been allowed to return home after emergency services raided an apartment block and found radioactive material.
But not a hint of how the radioactive stuff got there, or how they knew it was there.
party_pants said:
dv said:
Swimming Australia (SA) has called a special general meeting to avoid being kicked out of the sport’s global governing body World Aquatics.The meeting will vote on a change to SA’s constitution.
It comes after World Aquatics threatened to remove SA’s membership because of what it saw as the sport’s governance problems.
“The message from the governing body is abundantly clear. If we don’t make these necessary changes, then our standing in the sport is in jeopardy,” Swimming Australia president Michelle Gallen said in a statement.
“These changes are aimed at our members and bringing much needed – and called for – change and stability to how our sport is governed.”
Australia is now the number one swimming nation in the world after a dominant performance at the recent world championships in Fukuoka.
Australian swimmers won 13 gold medals among 25 overall to finish on top of the medal table while breaking five world records.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-17/swimming-australia-threatened-with-expulsion-from-world-aquatics/102742290
The article is very thin on detail on what the problem is with the current arrangement and what changes are required. It is all a bit vague.
It seems that it was all about the governing body?
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:Residents of a suburban Sydney street have been allowed to return home after emergency services raided an apartment block and found radioactive material.
But not a hint of how the radioactive stuff got there, or how they knew it was there.
They are obviously not telling us that yet, if at all.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:Residents of a suburban Sydney street have been allowed to return home after emergency services raided an apartment block and found radioactive material.
But not a hint of how the radioactive stuff got there, or how they knew it was there.
pinched by a border force employee so maybe part of some confiscated loot.
Pitchblende is cheap on eBay these days.
SCIENCE said:
LOL guess they’re just as corrupt hey¿
Sorry but behind but oh wait up¡
Our readers often hope we can answer this question with a positive story about their favoured party, but the short answer is: no. An analysis of all verdicts delivered by Fact Check across the last decade shows that Labor and the Coalition notched up similar proportions of red (negative), green (positive) and — most commonly — in between.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-17/fact-check-fact-check-10-year-anniversary/102738260
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL guess they’re just as corrupt hey¿
Sorry but behind but oh wait up¡
Our readers often hope we can answer this question with a positive story about their favoured party, but the short answer is: no. An analysis of all verdicts delivered by Fact Check across the last decade shows that Labor and the Coalition notched up similar proportions of red (negative), green (positive) and — most commonly — in between.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-17/fact-check-fact-check-10-year-anniversary/102738260
Long has it been thus.
Probably Chinese¡
Sydney’s longest-serving lord mayor has strongly indicated she will seek a historic sixth term, saying it would be “disastrous” if she retired.
SCIENCE said:
Probably Chinese¡
Sydney’s longest-serving lord mayor has strongly indicated she will seek a historic sixth term, saying it would be “disastrous” if she retired.
I don’t think Clover Moore is of Chinese descent?
Seems pretty tough for young people.
I wonder why The Customer Is Always Right doesn’t apply to accommodation.
dv said:
Seems pretty tough for young people.
I wonder why The Customer Is Always Right doesn’t apply to accommodation.
Lack of supply or withholding of supply plus its a life necessity so the supplier has advantage
Good.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-19/qld-green-wave-politics-labor-albanese/102746112
green wave could be on the horizon and it spells trouble for Labor and the LNP
SCIENCE said:
Good.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-19/qld-green-wave-politics-labor-albanese/102746112
green wave could be on the horizon and it spells trouble for Labor and the LNP
They’ll adapt.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Good.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-19/qld-green-wave-politics-labor-albanese/102746112
green wave could be on the horizon and it spells trouble for Labor and the LNP
They’ll adapt.
Don’t Worry ¡ The Overton Window Will Shift Faster Than The Sea Level Will Rise ¡
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Good.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-19/qld-green-wave-politics-labor-albanese/102746112
green wave could be on the horizon and it spells trouble for Labor and the LNP
They’ll adapt.
Don’t Worry ¡ The Overton Window Will Shift Faster Than The Sea Level Will Rise ¡
I have now consulted TATE and know what an Overton window is.
I note that is depicted as a window with well defined edges, which seems pretty silly.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:roughbarked said:
They’ll adapt.
Don’t Worry ¡ The Overton Window Will Shift Faster Than The Sea Level Will Rise ¡
I have now consulted TATE and know what an Overton window is.
I note that is depicted as a window with well defined edges, which seems pretty silly.
Like a door has a jamb a window has reveals.
Mararradj.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
Don’t Worry ¡ The Overton Window Will Shift Faster Than The Sea Level Will Rise ¡
I have now consulted TATE and know what an Overton window is.
I note that is depicted as a window with well defined edges, which seems pretty silly.
Like a door has a jamb a window has reveals.
Like a potential well defined in quantum mechanics oh wait oh shit¡
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:roughbarked said:
They’ll adapt.
Don’t Worry ¡ The Overton Window Will Shift Faster Than The Sea Level Will Rise ¡
I have now consulted TATE and know what an Overton window is.
I note that is depicted as a window with well defined edges, which seems pretty silly.
Seems to me that Dutton is not much of an adaptor.
He looks at his 21% preferred-PM statistic and plants his feet.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:Don’t Worry ¡ The Overton Window Will Shift Faster Than The Sea Level Will Rise ¡
I have now consulted TATE and know what an Overton window is.
I note that is depicted as a window with well defined edges, which seems pretty silly.
Seems to me that Dutton is not much of an adaptor.
He looks at his 21% preferred-PM statistic and plants his feet.
I don’t think he’ll stick around long if the party is adapting.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:Don’t Worry ¡ The Overton Window Will Shift Faster Than The Sea Level Will Rise ¡
I have now consulted TATE and know what an Overton window is.
I note that is depicted as a window with well defined edges, which seems pretty silly.
Seems to me that Dutton is not much of an adaptor.
He looks at his 21% preferred-PM statistic and plants his feet.
Dutton dressed as Damn.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I have now consulted TATE and know what an Overton window is.
I note that is depicted as a window with well defined edges, which seems pretty silly.
Seems to me that Dutton is not much of an adaptor.
He looks at his 21% preferred-PM statistic and plants his feet.
Dutton dressed as Damn.
Ha
Victoria reaches $380 million Commonwealth Games compensation settlement after pulling out as 2026 host
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-19/victoria-commonwealth-games-compensation-settlement/102750854
The Victorian government has reached a compensation settlement after pulling out of hosting the 2026 regional games.
In an agreement signed at 11pm on Friday, the state government will pay the Commonwealth Games Federation (CGF), Commonwealth Games Federation Partnerships (CGFP) and Commonwealth Games Australia (CGA) $380 million.
In July, Premier Daniel Andrews announced Victoria would no longer host the games due to spiralling costs.
Negotiations on compensation were referred to mediation with former New Zealand judge Kit Toogood KC, and former chief justice of the WA Supreme Court Wayne Martin KC.
A joint statement said the parties also agreed the multi-hub regional model was more expensive to host than traditional models.
The rest of the settlement will remain confidential.
dv said:
Victoria reaches $380 million Commonwealth Games compensation settlement after pulling out as 2026 hosthttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-19/victoria-commonwealth-games-compensation-settlement/102750854
The Victorian government has reached a compensation settlement after pulling out of hosting the 2026 regional games.
In an agreement signed at 11pm on Friday, the state government will pay the Commonwealth Games Federation (CGF), Commonwealth Games Federation Partnerships (CGFP) and Commonwealth Games Australia (CGA) $380 million.
In July, Premier Daniel Andrews announced Victoria would no longer host the games due to spiralling costs.
Negotiations on compensation were referred to mediation with former New Zealand judge Kit Toogood KC, and former chief justice of the WA Supreme Court Wayne Martin KC.
A joint statement said the parties also agreed the multi-hub regional model was more expensive to host than traditional models.
The rest of the settlement will remain confidential.
Madness.
Progress ¡
An arborist has confirmed that a birthing tree in western Victoria sacred to the Djab Wurrung people has been poisoned.
SCIENCE said:
Progress ¡
An arborist has confirmed that a birthing tree in western Victoria sacred to the Djab Wurrung people has been poisoned.
The hurt inflicted on Australian Aborigines since European settlement is unimaginable. Yet we think of ourselves as being civilised.
PermeateFree said:
SCIENCE said:Progress ¡
An arborist has confirmed that a birthing tree in western Victoria sacred to the Djab Wurrung people has been poisoned.
The hurt inflicted on Australian Aborigines since European settlement is unimaginable. Yet we think of ourselves as being civilised.
Spiteful act that’s for sure hopefully the tree lives
Cymek said:
PermeateFree said:
SCIENCE said:Progress ¡
An arborist has confirmed that a birthing tree in western Victoria sacred to the Djab Wurrung people has been poisoned.
The hurt inflicted on Australian Aborigines since European settlement is unimaginable. Yet we think of ourselves as being civilised.
Spiteful act that’s for sure hopefully the tree lives
Certain humans are horrible.
Spiny Norman said:
Mark Latham quits One Nation, accuses party of ‘defrauding NSW electoral funds’
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-22/mark-latham-and-rod-roberts-quit-one-nation/102760276
dv said:
Mark Latham quits One Nation, accuses party of ‘defrauding NSW electoral funds’https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-22/mark-latham-and-rod-roberts-quit-one-nation/102760276
Ha. After umpteen quittings, sackings, splits and ruptures, the irony of her party’s name is still lost on Pauline.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-23/cashless-society-financial-exclusion-safety-privacy-concerns/102706718
According to the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA), cash accounted for just 13 per cent of all payments made in 2022.
According to RBA data, just 7 per cent of Australians are “high cash users” (those who use cash for 80 per cent or more of their in-person transactions). That’s a 50 per cent drop since 2019.
The transition away from cash disproportionately affects disadvantaged groups, such as people with disabilities and those who live in remote and regional Australia who have difficulty accessing digital financial services.
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It’s not clear to me why a disabled person would prefer cash.
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-23/cashless-society-financial-exclusion-safety-privacy-concerns/102706718According to the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA), cash accounted for just 13 per cent of all payments made in 2022.
According to RBA data, just 7 per cent of Australians are “high cash users” (those who use cash for 80 per cent or more of their in-person transactions). That’s a 50 per cent drop since 2019.
The transition away from cash disproportionately affects disadvantaged groups, such as people with disabilities and those who live in remote and regional Australia who have difficulty accessing digital financial services.
—-
It’s not clear to me why a disabled person would prefer cash.
and if you are in a remote area where are you getting your cash from? you can’t pop down to your local ATM machine, whack in your PIN number and get a wad. Online would be far easier. I live in regional australia. we have a bendigo bank in town who I bank with. I haven’t used cash for years.
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-23/cashless-society-financial-exclusion-safety-privacy-concerns/102706718According to the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA), cash accounted for just 13 per cent of all payments made in 2022.
According to RBA data, just 7 per cent of Australians are “high cash users” (those who use cash for 80 per cent or more of their in-person transactions). That’s a 50 per cent drop since 2019.
The transition away from cash disproportionately affects disadvantaged groups, such as people with disabilities and those who live in remote and regional Australia who have difficulty accessing digital financial services.
—-
It’s not clear to me why a disabled person would prefer cash.
Perhaps the mentally disabled find digital money hard to use, that sounds insulting though
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-23/cashless-society-financial-exclusion-safety-privacy-concerns/102706718According to the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA), cash accounted for just 13 per cent of all payments made in 2022.
According to RBA data, just 7 per cent of Australians are “high cash users” (those who use cash for 80 per cent or more of their in-person transactions). That’s a 50 per cent drop since 2019.
The transition away from cash disproportionately affects disadvantaged groups, such as people with disabilities and those who live in remote and regional Australia who have difficulty accessing digital financial services.
—-
It’s not clear to me why a disabled person would prefer cash.
and if you are in a remote area where are you getting your cash from? you can’t pop down to your local ATM machine, whack in your PIN number and get a wad. Online would be far easier. I live in regional australia. we have a bendigo bank in town who I bank with. I haven’t used cash for years.
Unless it is at your bank, using ATMs may cost money to use. Using a card at shops like Aldi, costs extra. Many I know among farmers, calculate what they need for shopping or travel entertainment and draw the cash for the month say. Simply so they don’t have to pay the extra that using a card can cost.
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-23/cashless-society-financial-exclusion-safety-privacy-concerns/102706718According to the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA), cash accounted for just 13 per cent of all payments made in 2022.
According to RBA data, just 7 per cent of Australians are “high cash users” (those who use cash for 80 per cent or more of their in-person transactions). That’s a 50 per cent drop since 2019.
The transition away from cash disproportionately affects disadvantaged groups, such as people with disabilities and those who live in remote and regional Australia who have difficulty accessing digital financial services.
—-
It’s not clear to me why a disabled person would prefer cash.
You can get a lot of extra service for cash.
You can always swing a better deal with a used car salesman by putting a roll of cash in front of him.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-23/cashless-society-financial-exclusion-safety-privacy-concerns/102706718According to the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA), cash accounted for just 13 per cent of all payments made in 2022.
According to RBA data, just 7 per cent of Australians are “high cash users” (those who use cash for 80 per cent or more of their in-person transactions). That’s a 50 per cent drop since 2019.
The transition away from cash disproportionately affects disadvantaged groups, such as people with disabilities and those who live in remote and regional Australia who have difficulty accessing digital financial services.
—-
It’s not clear to me why a disabled person would prefer cash.
and if you are in a remote area where are you getting your cash from? you can’t pop down to your local ATM machine, whack in your PIN number and get a wad. Online would be far easier. I live in regional australia. we have a bendigo bank in town who I bank with. I haven’t used cash for years.
Unless it is at your bank, using ATMs may cost money to use. Using a card at shops like Aldi, costs extra. Many I know among farmers, calculate what they need for shopping or travel entertainment and draw the cash for the month say. Simply so they don’t have to pay the extra that using a card can cost.
my card, debit, costs $4 a month. unlimited withdrawals.
Bogsnorkler said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:and if you are in a remote area where are you getting your cash from? you can’t pop down to your local ATM machine, whack in your PIN number and get a wad. Online would be far easier. I live in regional australia. we have a bendigo bank in town who I bank with. I haven’t used cash for years.
Unless it is at your bank, using ATMs may cost money to use. Using a card at shops like Aldi, costs extra. Many I know among farmers, calculate what they need for shopping or travel entertainment and draw the cash for the month say. Simply so they don’t have to pay the extra that using a card can cost.
my card, debit, costs $4 a month. unlimited withdrawals.
I use cash when I’m ordering a hit on someone
Cymek said:
Bogsnorkler said:
roughbarked said:Unless it is at your bank, using ATMs may cost money to use. Using a card at shops like Aldi, costs extra. Many I know among farmers, calculate what they need for shopping or travel entertainment and draw the cash for the month say. Simply so they don’t have to pay the extra that using a card can cost.
my card, debit, costs $4 a month. unlimited withdrawals.
I use cash when I’m ordering a hit on someone
Nods
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:
Bogsnorkler said:my card, debit, costs $4 a month. unlimited withdrawals.
I use cash when I’m ordering a hit on someone
Nods
As long as people in positions of authority are willing to take bribes, there will be cash.
A bank transfer is a lot easier to trace than a paper bag full of $50 notes.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:takes notesCymek said:As long as people in positions of authority are willing to take bribes, there will be cash.I use cash when I’m ordering a hit on someoneNods
A bank transfer is a lot easier to trace than a paper bag full of $50 notes.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:I use cash when I’m ordering a hit on someone
Nods
As long as people in positions of authority are willing to take bribes, there will be cash.
A bank transfer is a lot easier to trace than a paper bag full of $50 notes.
Use Bitcoin.
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:
Bogsnorkler said:my card, debit, costs $4 a month. unlimited withdrawals.
I use cash when I’m ordering a hit on someone
Nods
I’m sure hitmen don’t take cheques.
OCDC said:
captain_spalding said:Peak Warming Man said:takes notesNodsAs long as people in positions of authority are willing to take bribes, there will be cash.
A bank transfer is a lot easier to trace than a paper bag full of $50 notes.
Keeps notes.
Cymek said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-23/cashless-society-financial-exclusion-safety-privacy-concerns/102706718According to the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA), cash accounted for just 13 per cent of all payments made in 2022.
According to RBA data, just 7 per cent of Australians are “high cash users” (those who use cash for 80 per cent or more of their in-person transactions). That’s a 50 per cent drop since 2019.
The transition away from cash disproportionately affects disadvantaged groups, such as people with disabilities and those who live in remote and regional Australia who have difficulty accessing digital financial services.
—-
It’s not clear to me why a disabled person would prefer cash.
Perhaps the mentally disabled find digital money hard to use, that sounds insulting though
Fair.
I also take their point that people in abusive relationships can find it hard to keep bank accounts secret and so wads of escape cash are a better option.
dv said:
Cymek said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-23/cashless-society-financial-exclusion-safety-privacy-concerns/102706718According to the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA), cash accounted for just 13 per cent of all payments made in 2022.
According to RBA data, just 7 per cent of Australians are “high cash users” (those who use cash for 80 per cent or more of their in-person transactions). That’s a 50 per cent drop since 2019.
The transition away from cash disproportionately affects disadvantaged groups, such as people with disabilities and those who live in remote and regional Australia who have difficulty accessing digital financial services.
—-
It’s not clear to me why a disabled person would prefer cash.
Perhaps the mentally disabled find digital money hard to use, that sounds insulting though
Fair.
I also take their point that people in abusive relationships can find it hard to keep bank accounts secret and so wads of escape cash are a better option.
On the disability thing, low vision and blind people are at a disadvantage with digital. But what I found interesting from that article was this bit:
>>Banknote data from the RBA Annual Report 2022 bears this out: Although cash transactions are down, cash in circulation is up.
According to the RBA, more than 2 billion banknotes are in circulation with a value of more than $102 billion, which amounts to around $4,000 in cash per Australian.<<
This may imply that although people are all for digital, they actually trust cash more/as a backup etc. I know I haven’t got $4,000 in cash lying around, and I suspect many people don’t. So some people somewhere have got really good stashes under their mattress or in their freezer or something.
buffy said:
dv said:
Cymek said:Perhaps the mentally disabled find digital money hard to use, that sounds insulting though
Fair.
I also take their point that people in abusive relationships can find it hard to keep bank accounts secret and so wads of escape cash are a better option.
On the disability thing, low vision and blind people are at a disadvantage with digital. But what I found interesting from that article was this bit:
>>Banknote data from the RBA Annual Report 2022 bears this out: Although cash transactions are down, cash in circulation is up.
According to the RBA, more than 2 billion banknotes are in circulation with a value of more than $102 billion, which amounts to around $4,000 in cash per Australian.<<
This may imply that although people are all for digital, they actually trust cash more/as a backup etc. I know I haven’t got $4,000 in cash lying around, and I suspect many people don’t. So some people somewhere have got really good stashes under their mattress or in their freezer or something.
or it could just indicate that there are a lot of ‘mates rates’ transactions going on to avoid stupid fees and taxes..
Arts said:
buffy said:
dv said:Fair.
I also take their point that people in abusive relationships can find it hard to keep bank accounts secret and so wads of escape cash are a better option.
On the disability thing, low vision and blind people are at a disadvantage with digital. But what I found interesting from that article was this bit:
>>Banknote data from the RBA Annual Report 2022 bears this out: Although cash transactions are down, cash in circulation is up.
According to the RBA, more than 2 billion banknotes are in circulation with a value of more than $102 billion, which amounts to around $4,000 in cash per Australian.<<
This may imply that although people are all for digital, they actually trust cash more/as a backup etc. I know I haven’t got $4,000 in cash lying around, and I suspect many people don’t. So some people somewhere have got really good stashes under their mattress or in their freezer or something.
or it could just indicate that there are a lot of ‘mates rates’ transactions going on to avoid stupid fees and taxes..
Define ‘stupid’…
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
buffy said:On the disability thing, low vision and blind people are at a disadvantage with digital. But what I found interesting from that article was this bit:
>>Banknote data from the RBA Annual Report 2022 bears this out: Although cash transactions are down, cash in circulation is up.
According to the RBA, more than 2 billion banknotes are in circulation with a value of more than $102 billion, which amounts to around $4,000 in cash per Australian.<<
This may imply that although people are all for digital, they actually trust cash more/as a backup etc. I know I haven’t got $4,000 in cash lying around, and I suspect many people don’t. So some people somewhere have got really good stashes under their mattress or in their freezer or something.
or it could just indicate that there are a lot of ‘mates rates’ transactions going on to avoid stupid fees and taxes..
Define ‘stupid’…
You know, the money needed to run the country and which everyone is always asking the government to spend on their own pet “thing”.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
buffy said:On the disability thing, low vision and blind people are at a disadvantage with digital. But what I found interesting from that article was this bit:
>>Banknote data from the RBA Annual Report 2022 bears this out: Although cash transactions are down, cash in circulation is up.
According to the RBA, more than 2 billion banknotes are in circulation with a value of more than $102 billion, which amounts to around $4,000 in cash per Australian.<<
This may imply that although people are all for digital, they actually trust cash more/as a backup etc. I know I haven’t got $4,000 in cash lying around, and I suspect many people don’t. So some people somewhere have got really good stashes under their mattress or in their freezer or something.
or it could just indicate that there are a lot of ‘mates rates’ transactions going on to avoid stupid fees and taxes..
Define ‘stupid’…
I really don’t think you want me to do that, witty.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
buffy said:On the disability thing, low vision and blind people are at a disadvantage with digital. But what I found interesting from that article was this bit:
>>Banknote data from the RBA Annual Report 2022 bears this out: Although cash transactions are down, cash in circulation is up.
According to the RBA, more than 2 billion banknotes are in circulation with a value of more than $102 billion, which amounts to around $4,000 in cash per Australian.<<
This may imply that although people are all for digital, they actually trust cash more/as a backup etc. I know I haven’t got $4,000 in cash lying around, and I suspect many people don’t. So some people somewhere have got really good stashes under their mattress or in their freezer or something.
or it could just indicate that there are a lot of ‘mates rates’ transactions going on to avoid stupid fees and taxes..
Define ‘stupid’…
everything, everywhere, all at once
buffy said:
dv said:
Cymek said:Perhaps the mentally disabled find digital money hard to use, that sounds insulting though
Fair.
I also take their point that people in abusive relationships can find it hard to keep bank accounts secret and so wads of escape cash are a better option.
On the disability thing, low vision and blind people are at a disadvantage with digital. But what I found interesting from that article was this bit:
>>Banknote data from the RBA Annual Report 2022 bears this out: Although cash transactions are down, cash in circulation is up.
According to the RBA, more than 2 billion banknotes are in circulation with a value of more than $102 billion, which amounts to around $4,000 in cash per Australian.<<
This may imply that although people are all for digital, they actually trust cash more/as a backup etc. I know I haven’t got $4,000 in cash lying around, and I suspect many people don’t. So some people somewhere have got really good stashes under their mattress or in their freezer or something.
A lot of it would be in the drug dealers hands and the gamblers, at a rugh guess.
Arts said:
buffy said:
dv said:Fair.
I also take their point that people in abusive relationships can find it hard to keep bank accounts secret and so wads of escape cash are a better option.
On the disability thing, low vision and blind people are at a disadvantage with digital. But what I found interesting from that article was this bit:
>>Banknote data from the RBA Annual Report 2022 bears this out: Although cash transactions are down, cash in circulation is up.
According to the RBA, more than 2 billion banknotes are in circulation with a value of more than $102 billion, which amounts to around $4,000 in cash per Australian.<<
This may imply that although people are all for digital, they actually trust cash more/as a backup etc. I know I haven’t got $4,000 in cash lying around, and I suspect many people don’t. So some people somewhere have got really good stashes under their mattress or in their freezer or something.
or it could just indicate that there are a lot of ‘mates rates’ transactions going on to avoid stupid fees and taxes..
Keating tried to fix that.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
dv said:Fair.
I also take their point that people in abusive relationships can find it hard to keep bank accounts secret and so wads of escape cash are a better option.
On the disability thing, low vision and blind people are at a disadvantage with digital. But what I found interesting from that article was this bit:
>>Banknote data from the RBA Annual Report 2022 bears this out: Although cash transactions are down, cash in circulation is up.
According to the RBA, more than 2 billion banknotes are in circulation with a value of more than $102 billion, which amounts to around $4,000 in cash per Australian.<<
This may imply that although people are all for digital, they actually trust cash more/as a backup etc. I know I haven’t got $4,000 in cash lying around, and I suspect many people don’t. So some people somewhere have got really good stashes under their mattress or in their freezer or something.
A lot of it would be in the drug dealers hands and the gamblers, at a rugh guess.
Yep here we go. Millions of dollars washed through NSW pokies as worst 10 pubs and clubs revealed
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-23/cashless-society-financial-exclusion-safety-privacy-concerns/102706718According to the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA), cash accounted for just 13 per cent of all payments made in 2022.
According to RBA data, just 7 per cent of Australians are “high cash users” (those who use cash for 80 per cent or more of their in-person transactions). That’s a 50 per cent drop since 2019.
The transition away from cash disproportionately affects disadvantaged groups, such as people with disabilities and those who live in remote and regional Australia who have difficulty accessing digital financial services.
Not to forget the drug dealers and crims…
In its Final Report the Taskforce stated that the black economy is larger than estimated by the ABS in 2012 and could be as large as 3% of GDP—in 2015–16 this equated to $50 billion.
“According to the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA), cash accounted for just 13 per cent of all payments made in 2022.”
That should read ‘…of all payments made in 2022 that the RBA knows about’.
captain_spalding said:
“According to the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA), cash accounted for just 13 per cent of all payments made in 2022.”That should read ‘…of all payments made in 2022 that the RBA knows about’.
well, going by what the RBAs survey was tasked to do the direct quote is correct. It didn’t look at under the table payments.
https://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2023/jun/consumer-payment-behaviour-in-australia.html
Everyone’s multigigging these days
dv said:
Everyone’s multigigging these days
I had a multigiggle when I saw that.
OCDC said:
Ha!
my facebook says…
sarahs mum said:
my facebook says…
Damn.
I don’t see this turning around in 6 weeks.
Impress me, Australia.
Walter Sofronoff demands ACT Chief Minister Andrew Barr retract ‘unethical’ claims
stephen rice
September 1, 2023
Justice Walter Sofronoff after his swearing in as President of the Court of Appeal in Brisbane.
Inquiry head Walter Sofronoff KC has demanded ACT Chief Minister Andrew Barr retract suggestions he had breached his duties and acted unethically in releasing his report into the prosecution of Bruce Lehrmann.
Lawyers acting for Sofronoff Inquiry chairman have written to Mr Barr rejecting criticism made by the chief minister at a press conference earlier this month, following publication of Mr Sofronoff’s damning findings against ACT chief prosecutor Shane Drumgold.
In a veiled threat to take legal action, Mr Sofronoff’s lawyers say they are writing to give Mr Barr “an opportunity to correct the harm he has caused to Mr Sofronoff’s professional reputation.”
In an extraordinary move, Mr Barr had suggested Mr Sofronoff could face charges or a referral to the national corruption watchdog over the premature leak of his report into the handling of the trial of Mr Lehrmann, the contents of which were published by The Australian.
Mr Barr said “a reasonably straight reading” of the Inquiries Act would indicate Mr Sofronoff had breached the law by providing journalists with copies of the report prior to its release by the government.
“We will consider our position in relation to that,” the Chief Minister said.
Mr Barr also said he found Mr Sofronoff’s engagement with journalists during the Inquiry was “concerning.”
“Mr Barr was wrong to say that Mr Sofronoff had contravened the Act and to impute that he had behaved in bad faith,” Mr Sofronoff’s lawyers said in the letter dated 17 August, released on Thursday.
Mr Sofronoff’s lawyers said it was clear there had been no breach of the Inquiries Act, which expressly permits the board to “do whatever it considers necessary or convenient for the fair and prompt conduct of the inquiry.”
They pointed out that Mr Sofronoff had stated publicly at the hearings that he would freely engage with journalists “to ensure that they can obtain a full understanding of what the evidence means and what may be the significance and ramifications of the evidence”.
Mr Sofronoff said he had given copies of his report to two reputable senior journalists who wrote for mainstream media organisations, The Australian’s Janet Albrechtsen and the ABC’s Elizabeth Byrne, and had conversations with both of them during the inquiry.
Neither of them ever breached his confidence during that time, he said.
“There was not the slightest reason to suppose that either of them would break their word about the serious matter of an embargo; and nobody has said that either of them have done so”, he said.
The Australian did not breach an embargo and will not reveal the source of the leak.
Mr Sofronoff also revealed he had provided a copy of the report to Brittany Higgins’ lawyer, Leon Zwier, so she could be reassured there was nothing adverse to her in his findings.
Mr Sofronoff had not acceded to the many requests for a public response to Mr Barr’s criticism, the lawyers said, despite added criticism of him by media outlets and commentators.
Mr Sofronoff regarded himself as bound by his professional duty of good faith “not to attack a person who, in practical terms, was akin to a client”. However, wrong criticism of Mr Sofronoff’s conduct of the inquiry and of his judgment would merely give grounds to complain to those who have no meritorious criticism to make, the letter said.
“We invite you to consider the matters in this letter and to obtain legal advice about them. We would respectfully invite Mr Barr also to consider whether the best course would be to make a public statement to the effect that, having taken advice, he accepts that Mr Sofronoff neither breached the terms of the statute, nor did he act unethically and that Mr Barr is now satisfied that Mr Sofronoff performed his duties properly and fully.
“That would put an end to the matter as far as Mr Sofronoff is concerned.”
Mr Sofronoff also released the letter he wrote to the ACT government explaining why he provided journalists with copies of his findings ahead of the report’s release by the government.
Mr Sofronoff’s lawyers asked Mr Barr and ACT Attorney-General Shane Rattenbury to release the correspondence after it became the subject of Freedom of Information requests. He also asked that his letter of 17 August be released at the same time, to give a complete explanation of his position.
“That would not only serve the public’s interest in knowing the reasons and the basis for Mr Sofronoff’s actions which have been the subject of criticism, it would also be the right and decent thing for you to do.”
He asked for a response by 12pm on Thursday but received none. As Mr Barr had not released the correspondence “within a reasonable period of time”, Mr Sofronoff was doing so himself.
In his now-released letter, Mr Sofronoff explains that he gave copies of his report to Ms Albrechtsen and Ms Byrne on embargo until the government had published it.
Mr Sofronoff said he had concluded that it was “possible to identify journalists who are ethical and who understand the importance of their role in the conduct of a public inquiry. I have not had my trust betrayed nor have I had any reason to be disappointed.”
“Ms Albrechtsen informed me by telephone that she had obtained a copy of my report from another source and that she regarded herself as being at liberty to write about its contents. I have no reason to believe that she was lying to me.”
-The Australuan.
