Date: 1/08/2023 09:11:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2060266
Subject: Pandemics including COVID-19 | 2023-08
Fuck CHINA ¡
Date: 1/08/2023 15:35:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2060437
Subject: re: Pandemics including COVID-19 | 2023-08
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Fuck CHINA ¡
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In Breaking News During 1975, Fusion Power Will Solve Global Warming ¡
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/07/31/opinion/you-can-finally-ignore-covid-with-few-basic-steps/
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In Breaking News
Ivermectin Causes Diabetes¡
Infection with low doses of hookworms was found to significantly reduce participants’ insulin resistance and fasting blood glucose. “Overall, it seemed like the worm-infected people tended to do a little bit better than they were pre-trial,” Dr Giacomin said. “A lot of these people did decline deworming medication and still have the worms inside them.”
Question. Why make taxpayers cough up $1600 per year per obese pre-existing conditioner when you can just load up on a few nematodes for free¿
Sorry your capitalism is showing¡
Dr Giacomin said once a low dose of hookworm is established in the human gut, they can live for up to a decade as a “kind of set and forget treatment”. “After those initial symptoms subside, people don’t even know they’re there anymore,” he said. But further research could focus on identifying a protein or a molecule that can be produced as a drug to mimic the beneficial effects the hookworms provide.
$$$
Are there no drawbacks to hosting hookworms in one’s gut?
Not sure but it’s entirely conceivable that they coevolved as fairly safe commensals just like we host all kinds of bacteria in there without big trouble, in fact, if we murder the bacteria you’ve seen all those articles about gut microbiome and health. Even if they’re not completely benign it could be like sickle cell anaemia or thalassaemia and a part dose could prevent other diseases like malaria say.
Also we note that if the benefit derives from the worms using up the nutrient energy, then what the fuck drug are you going to replace a worm with¿ Some kind of glucose burning catalyst, like a citric acid cycle enzyme perhaps, or maybe an ensemble of enzymes, a biochemical pathway of enzymes, something that does respiration, like uh… a complete organism called a worm¿
In Breaking News During 1975, Fusion Power Will Solve Global Warming ¡
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/07/31/opinion/you-can-finally-ignore-covid-with-few-basic-steps/
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https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/994985?form=fpf
Multiple Trials of Long COVID Treatments Advancing, More on the Way
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So apparently the way Gaia is clearing this Homo infestation is by using bats, makes sense.
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
Difference is, meat smells don’t contain the known toxins that slow-burning wood smoke contributes to people’s lungs, resulting in serious health issues.
Let’s try to keep this topic real :(
Especially as wood smoke from home heating contributes substantially to Australia’s greenhouse emissions.
Hey tell you what keeps diseases and wood smoke and meat particulates out when you want to breathe…
Wait we thought forcing people to return to the office was going to increase productivity and make The Economy Must Grow¡¿
We’re now finding out the damaging consequences of the mandated return to office. And it’s not a pretty picture. A trio of compelling reports—the Greenhouse Candidate Experience report, the Federal Reserve’s Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking (SHED), and Unispace’s Returning for Good report—collectively paint a stark picture of this brewing storm.
Unispace found that nearly half (42%) of companies with return-to-office mandates witnessed a higher level of employee attrition than they had anticipated. And almost a third (29%) of companies enforcing office returns are struggling with recruitment. In other words, employers knew the mandates would cause some attrition, but they weren’t ready for the serious problems that would result.
Meanwhile, a staggering 76% of employees stand ready to jump ship if their companies decide to pull the plug on flexible work schedules, according to the Greenhouse report. Moreover, employees from historically underrepresented groups are 22% more likely to consider other options if flexibility comes to an end.
In the SHED survey, the gravity of this situation becomes more evident. The survey equates the displeasure of shifting from a flexible work model to a traditional one to that of experiencing a 2% to 3% pay cut.
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Wait we thought forcing people to return to the office was going to increase productivity and make The Economy Must Grow¡¿
We’re now finding out the damaging consequences of the mandated return to office. And it’s not a pretty picture. A trio of compelling reports—the Greenhouse Candidate Experience report, the Federal Reserve’s Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking (SHED), and Unispace’s Returning for Good report—collectively paint a stark picture of this brewing storm.
Unispace found that nearly half (42%) of companies with return-to-office mandates witnessed a higher level of employee attrition than they had anticipated. And almost a third (29%) of companies enforcing office returns are struggling with recruitment. In other words, employers knew the mandates would cause some attrition, but they weren’t ready for the serious problems that would result.
Meanwhile, a staggering 76% of employees stand ready to jump ship if their companies decide to pull the plug on flexible work schedules, according to the Greenhouse report. Moreover, employees from historically underrepresented groups are 22% more likely to consider other options if flexibility comes to an end.
In the SHED survey, the gravity of this situation becomes more evident. The survey equates the displeasure of shifting from a flexible work model to a traditional one to that of experiencing a 2% to 3% pay cut.
Fancy that. You could commute for an hour each way at your own expense to sit in a sterile cubicle and peruse social media while occasionally clicking on a work button, or stay at home in your pajamas with a coffee doing actual* work.
“Why don’t employees want to come back to the office?”
Your office environment sucks, commuting sucks, and you suck. I need a pay rise or I’ll find somewhere else to click on buttons.
*Actual work being clicking on buttons.
How many buttons do you press in a work day?
Tau.Neutrino said:
How many buttons do you press in a work day?
I do lots of button pushing. My main method of communication with customers and suppliers is via email.
Kingy said:
SCIENCE said:Wait we thought forcing people to return to the office was going to increase productivity and make The Economy Must Grow¡¿
We’re now finding out the damaging consequences of the mandated return to office. And it’s not a pretty picture. A trio of compelling reports—the Greenhouse Candidate Experience report, the Federal Reserve’s Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking (SHED), and Unispace’s Returning for Good report—collectively paint a stark picture of this brewing storm.
Unispace found that nearly half (42%) of companies with return-to-office mandates witnessed a higher level of employee attrition than they had anticipated. And almost a third (29%) of companies enforcing office returns are struggling with recruitment. In other words, employers knew the mandates would cause some attrition, but they weren’t ready for the serious problems that would result.
Meanwhile, a staggering 76% of employees stand ready to jump ship if their companies decide to pull the plug on flexible work schedules, according to the Greenhouse report. Moreover, employees from historically underrepresented groups are 22% more likely to consider other options if flexibility comes to an end.
In the SHED survey, the gravity of this situation becomes more evident. The survey equates the displeasure of shifting from a flexible work model to a traditional one to that of experiencing a 2% to 3% pay cut.
Fancy that. You could commute for an hour each way at your own expense to sit in a sterile cubicle and peruse social media while occasionally clicking on a work button, or stay at home in your pajamas with a coffee doing actual* work.
“Why don’t employees want to come back to the office?”
Your office environment sucks, commuting sucks, and you suck. I need a pay rise or I’ll find somewhere else to click on buttons.
*Actual work being clicking on buttons.
Commuting sucks. Paying for parking sucks. The cost of fue sucks. The cost of vehicle maintenance and repairs sucks.
public transport is only good if it runs directly from near your home to near your work with only a short walk either end. Catching connecting buses and trains sucks.
Kingy said:
SCIENCE said:Wait we thought forcing people to return to the office was going to increase productivity and make The Economy Must Grow¡¿
We’re now finding out the damaging consequences of the mandated return to office. And it’s not a pretty picture. A trio of compelling reports—the Greenhouse Candidate Experience report, the Federal Reserve’s Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking (SHED), and Unispace’s Returning for Good report—collectively paint a stark picture of this brewing storm.
Unispace found that nearly half (42%) of companies with return-to-office mandates witnessed a higher level of employee attrition than they had anticipated. And almost a third (29%) of companies enforcing office returns are struggling with recruitment. In other words, employers knew the mandates would cause some attrition, but they weren’t ready for the serious problems that would result.
Meanwhile, a staggering 76% of employees stand ready to jump ship if their companies decide to pull the plug on flexible work schedules, according to the Greenhouse report. Moreover, employees from historically underrepresented groups are 22% more likely to consider other options if flexibility comes to an end.
In the SHED survey, the gravity of this situation becomes more evident. The survey equates the displeasure of shifting from a flexible work model to a traditional one to that of experiencing a 2% to 3% pay cut.
Fancy that. You could commute for an hour each way at your own expense to sit in a sterile cubicle and peruse social media while occasionally clicking on a work button, or stay at home in your pajamas with a coffee doing actual* work.
“Why don’t employees want to come back to the office?”
Your office environment sucks, commuting sucks, and you suck. I need a pay rise or I’ll find somewhere else to click on buttons.
*Actual work being clicking on buttons.
yeah, if something good came out of the pandemic, it’s the opportunity for employers to see that people can work from home, and employees to see that that commute time takes out of their life balance…
if it takes me an hour to both get ready and get to work,, that’s a load of washing, a quick clean up, a phone call to someone I like… with nothing off the work schedule…
it’s cheaper, in so many ways – transport, coffees, clothes, makeup, time, health, happiness… the only time working in the office is good for someone is if they are the type that suffers from no human interaction… weirdos and odd balls.
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Their malaria numbers are also up.
Ah well lucky environmental changes couldn’t possibly encourage vector mosquitoes to extend their range¡
Wait…
Oh shit…
Ahahahahahahahahahahaha¡
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reassuring there are moral people in the world that know what it’s all about, loyal people too, it’s not just about the money, how much, they have a special appreciation of what is competitive, in the bigger picture
need more of them out here, to help with the program denationalization, degenderization, demonetization, so all can arrive at being world citizens, before the earth is burned by climate change, and debt, perhaps not in that order, of cause, distortions
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reassuring there are moral people in the world that know what it’s all about, loyal people too, it’s not just about the money, how much, they have a special appreciation of what is competitive, in the bigger picture
need more of them out here, to help with the program denationalization, degenderization, demonetization, so all can arrive at being world citizens, before the earth is burned by climate change, and debt, perhaps not in that order, of cause, distortions
So give people a universal living wage slash basic income and then everything else really will be market efficiency then.
ahahahahahaha
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-03/local-monkeypox-mpox-cases-reported-victoria/102683552
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reassuring there are moral people in the world that know what it’s all about, loyal people too, it’s not just about the money, how much, they have a special appreciation of what is competitive, in the bigger picture
need more of them out here, to help with the program denationalization, degenderization, demonetization, so all can arrive at being world citizens, before the earth is burned by climate change, and debt, perhaps not in that order, of cause, distortions
So give people a universal living wage slash basic income and then everything else really will be market efficiency then.
everyone turn into hippies, live in the sand dunes along the beach, be no working or workable economic and social stratification to incentivize people to work to maintain the hierarchy and social order, it’s a heretical idea of yours, you could be a radical, need deradicalization
transition said:
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transition said:
reassuring there are moral people in the world that know what it’s all about, loyal people too, it’s not just about the money, how much, they have a special appreciation of what is competitive, in the bigger picture
need more of them out here, to help with the program denationalization, degenderization, demonetization, so all can arrive at being world citizens, before the earth is burned by climate change, and debt, perhaps not in that order, of cause, distortions
So give people a universal living wage slash basic income and then everything else really will be market efficiency then.
everyone turn into hippies, live in the sand dunes along the beach, be no working or workable economic and social stratification to incentivize people to work to maintain the hierarchy and social order, it’s a heretical idea of yours, you could be a radical, need deradicalization
We’re familiar with how functional families work.
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So give people a universal living wage slash basic income and then everything else really will be market efficiency then.
everyone turn into hippies, live in the sand dunes along the beach, be no working or workable economic and social stratification to incentivize people to work to maintain the hierarchy and social order, it’s a heretical idea of yours, you could be a radical, need deradicalization
We’re familiar with how functional families work.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/politics/2023/08/02/wages-business-workers-unions/
Two months after the mining industry launched an advertising campaign against the Same Jobs, Same Pay proposal, the head of Australia’s biggest industry lobby group accused the government of intending to “kill” productivity. The speech also attacked the government’s broader changes to rebalance workplace laws and improve conditions, which he said were “unjustified” and would harm the economy.
Productivity, or the amount produced for every hour worked, has steadily declined for decades from a peak during the computer revolution of the 1980s. Recently it has fallen to its lowest point in more than half a century, a trend that Treasurer Jim Chalmers says has to be turned around with the “massive opportunity” presented by new technology.
Wait so has this steady decline in productivity corresponded to an increase in wages relative to profits, or a decrease in wages relative to profits¿
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OK thank fuck for that.
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OK thank fuck for that.
What else are they supposed to do when they are on a break?
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buffy said:
It’s ‘flu season. Can’t you just be happy with that?
Good point, maybe yous’ll’ll be stuck with us for a while yet.
Dr Sarah McNab, the director of general medicine at the Royal Children’s hospital in Melbourne, said the rise was likely due to flu patterns returning to normal after the Covid-19 pandemic and the ease with which the contagious virus spreads in childcare centres and schools. “We now have all of the respiratory illnesses circulating in the community again,” she said. In the past month, she said the hospital had seen a rise in the numbers of children presenting with the flu. The most common symptoms include lethargy, aches and pains, fever and a runny nose.
LOL fuck “after” LOL
But the severity of flu cases for children has also spiked, with some admitted to intensive care with serious heart, brain and muscle-related complications. Prof Nicholas Wood, a University of Sydney paediatrics expert, said it was not yet clear why the severity of cases had gotten worse. The severity of infections among children prompted the NSW chief health officer, Kerry Chant, to urge parents to get their children vaccinated.
Oh hey anyone wonder what intervening phenomenon might have changed the severity of “normal” patterns before and after¿
Oh and anyone know any other way of preventing severe influenza apart from getting shot¿
Damn it, guess everyone who told ‘us it was over was lying.
Oh shit you mean it was never over ¿
Oops we thought they were lying ¡
Fuck.
Fuck.
“We have to admit Covid isn’t over yet,” warned AMA President Professor Steve Robson in headlines across the Sunday Newspapers last weekend.
Fuck.
Professor Robson pointed to the fact “Covid is the third-most common cause that Australians still die from,” and expressed concern at the low levels of booster uptake as a sense of complacency and a wish to move on from the pandemic have led to a blind spot in Australians’ thinking about the virus.
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OK thank fuck for that.
What else are they supposed to do when they are on a break?
Well, you know, lick their … oh sorry that might have been m’pox, we forgot.
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OK thank fuck for that.
I read an article yesterday, about a study, indicated reporters that don’t wipe their arses are more likely to have dags
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Can’t be done obviously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IgG4-related_disease
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD20
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Wonder if there’s any way for people to protect themselves from smoke better than this¿
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Brilliant¡ Truthful¡ Honest¡
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Brilliant¡
Fuck CHINA¡
Clients who used select services at a private Richmond Hill health clinic are being advised to get tested for blood-borne infections, including HIV and hepatitis, after York Region said an inspection revealed improper infection prevention and control practices. In a news release issued by the municipality on Tuesday, York Region said anyone who received services for wet cupping or micro-needling/ derma rolling at the Huai Kui Xu TCM clinic from Oct. 1, 2015 to June 7, 2023 should be tested as a precaution.
“The investigation found the devices used for wet cupping were not properly cleaned and sterilized between clinic clients and single-use micro-needle/derma rollers were reused on multiple clients,” the news release read.
Excellent¡
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Brilliant¡
Excellent¡
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Brilliant¡
Excellent¡
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The question on everyone’s lips.
We Have All The Tools ¡
Do we now? :)
We(0,1,1) Are All The Tools ¡
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roughbarked said:
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We Have All The Tools ¡
Do we now? :)
We(0,1,1) Are All The Tools ¡
Disease, ay? Always full of surprises.
Yum¡
They Are Telling You The Truth ¡
The latest health performance data shows a record number of Victorians presented to an emergency department over the past year.
Nice picture totally showing Victorians
wearing ASNSW styling.
Fucking hell.
American and Canadian research suggests as many as three-quarters of female victims of domestic violence have suffered traumatic brain injury (TBI), with some experts estimating up to 20 million women in the US sustain TBIs through partner violence every year — 11 to 12 times the number experienced by athletes and military personnel combined.
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Fucking hell.
American and Canadian research suggests as many as three-quarters of female victims of domestic violence have suffered traumatic brain injury (TBI), with some experts estimating up to 20 million women in the US sustain TBIs through partner violence every year — 11 to 12 times the number experienced by athletes and military personnel combined.
Not pleasant reading. Though definitely worth knowing.
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OCDC said:
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Also love Kraft Mac and cheese. Make of that what you will.
Love my face diapers. No resp infections for years now.
and they think Tasmanians are problematic.
Kraft Werks?
Stay, stay.
Real Sheep Say Bar
Ah, COVID-19, is there any planet it can’t heal¿
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poikilotherm said:
Guess they could dust off Edward Jenner to help.
Ah, helicopter them out.
Wait
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-29/qld-adf-chopper-crash-in-whitsundays/102663620
a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic
ah.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-06/pakistan-train-derailment-kills-at-least-30/102695550
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Oh fuck off, this is a violation of Human Rights, Humans have materials that must be free to move¡
The Queensland government this week announced a new strategy to stop the pests spreading beyond the state border. That followed the New South Wales government announcing movement restrictions on materials from Queensland that it hoped would stop the ants marching south.The Queensland government this week announced a new strategy to stop the pests spreading beyond the state border. That followed the New South Wales government announcing movement restrictions on materials from Queensland that it hoped would stop the ants marching south.
This is fucking Police State behaviour, and it’s Government Overreach¡
“I know that some inspections are going on but I think it might be time to have every vehicle that’s carrying a trailer or looking like it could have farm equipment in it being inspected,” Cr Cherry said. “We are extremely concerned about this now … it’s a very real and present danger and we need everybody to be on high alert.”
Exactly¡ They should respect the Sovereignty of Citizens and leave their money alone¡
Dr Lach said the Queensland government’s decision to impose fines of up to $470,000 for anyone who knowingly spread fire ants had the potential to backfire on control measures.
Fuck off, of course we want to live, and that means with fire and with ants, it’s important to get bitten and stung and The Economy Must Grow and it’s good for the children to keep schools of ants open and
“We, as a society, have to decide if we want to live with these or we don’t,” she said. “And if we don’t — and I don’t think we do — then we all have to play a part in keeping them from spreading.”
you’ll suffer ants debt if you don’t let them spread.
A fire ant queen can fly up to five km full of sperm and ready to lay eggs. There’s a very real chance that they could already have crossed the border or will do so in the near future uness they are eradicated in Qld.
Good, the further the better, only dirty shithole countries like CHINA prevent infestations and infections and invasions and disease and destruction, the rest of us welcome all those as liberators with open arms and flowers on the end of rifles ¡
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actin
skimmed some that, required the last effort for thought I had, exhausted it, left me entirely depleted, near went into a coma and heart nearly gave up completely
i’ve stopped caring now
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:
Spiny Norman said:
My thoughts exactly.
I wasn’t subject to it though work and the streets, trains, etc were quite deserted, I no complain
I was one of the few admin people at the hospital who were obliged to attend, not possible to do the job from home.
I did enjoy the readily available parking spaces, and the scarcity of traffic on the roads, among other things.
So basically you’re all communists gushing over the police state.
French research centre behind controversial Covid paper found to have used questionable ethics processes
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/09/french-research-centre-behind-controversial-covid-paper-found-to-have-used-questionable-ethics-processes
Raoult was the corresponding author of an IHU-led study published in 2020 which claimed the drugs hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin could in combination treat Covid-19 with “100% viral clearance”, leading to several countries adopting the treatment, and former US president Donald Trump promoting it.
So¿ Did they have pre-existing conditions¿
According to the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare, 19 children under the age of 14 choked to death between 2020 and 2021.
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(NewsNation) — The discovery of a Chinese-owned medical facility illegally operating a lab housing hazardous materials and infectious diseases outside of Fresno, California, has raised serious concerns about China’s potential development of biological weapons. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention detected at least 20 infectious diseases inside the lab, including coronavirus, HIV, hepatitis, malaria and herpes. The lab reportedly even housed more than 900 bioengineered mice carrying these diseases.
The CDC was instrumental in uncovering the illegal lab, which has alarmed authorities due to its potential to create a public health crisis and undermine national security. The presence of dangerous infectious agents, coupled with China’s history of espionage and covert activities, has raised suspicions that this may be part of an alarming strategy to weaken the United States.
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, a representative from California, expressed concerns about the lab, and stated that this may not be an isolated incident. Gordon Chang, senior fellow at the Gatestone Institute, joined “The Hill on NewsNation” to discuss the lab, saying locations like this might be where China could launch a biological attack. “If there is a war in Asia,” Chang said, “the first shot … will be when China is spreading pathogens around the United States to weaken our ability to respond to what happens in Asia.”
In an article for the Gatestone Institute, titled, “Fresno Lab: China’s Operation to Exterminate Americans,” Chang writes that China could be spreading pathogens in the United States as part of a strategy to divert attention and weaken the country’s ability to respond forcefully in the event of aggression against Taiwan or other neighboring countries. “That’s exactly what I think is going on,” Chang said. “And as Speaker McCarthy said, this is probably not the only location in the U.S. that had pathogens in an illegal covert facility. We’ve got to be concerned that China views a war as something that will be fought not just in Asia, but on American soil.”
The revelation has raised questions about the United States’ preparedness and response to potential biowarfare threats within its borders. Experts and officials have stressed the importance of identifying and monitoring Chinese-owned facilities around the country to safeguard national security. As investigations into the Reedley lab continue, authorities are determined to uncover the truth behind its activities and any potential connections to the Chinese government. “I think that we have to be looking at Chinese-owned facilities around the U.S.,” Chang emphasized.
which means if we take the logic to the conclusion, and are to believe that SARACAIDS-CoV was released from a laboratory in CHINA, then …
… which foreign cuntry authorised that first biowarfare shot against CHINA to be fired¿
nice
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
SCIENCE said:
Wait we thought forcing people to return to the office was going to increase productivity and make The Economy Must Grow¡¿
We’re now finding out the damaging consequences of the mandated return to office. And it’s not a pretty picture. A trio of compelling reports—the Greenhouse Candidate Experience report, the Federal Reserve’s Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking (SHED), and Unispace’s Returning for Good report—collectively paint a stark picture of this brewing storm.
Unispace found that nearly half (42%) of companies with return-to-office mandates witnessed a higher level of employee attrition than they had anticipated. And almost a third (29%) of companies enforcing office returns are struggling with recruitment. In other words, employers knew the mandates would cause some attrition, but they weren’t ready for the serious problems that would result.
Meanwhile, a staggering 76% of employees stand ready to jump ship if their companies decide to pull the plug on flexible work schedules, according to the Greenhouse report. Moreover, employees from historically underrepresented groups are 22% more likely to consider other options if flexibility comes to an end.
In the SHED survey, the gravity of this situation becomes more evident. The survey equates the displeasure of shifting from a flexible work model to a traditional one to that of experiencing a 2% to 3% pay cut.
Fancy that. You could commute for an hour each way at your own expense to sit in a sterile cubicle and peruse social media while occasionally clicking on a work button, or stay at home in your pajamas with a coffee doing actual* work.
“Why don’t employees want to come back to the office?”
Your office environment sucks, commuting sucks, and you suck. I need a pay rise or I’ll find somewhere else to click on buttons.
*Actual work being clicking on buttons.
Commuting sucks. Paying for parking sucks. The cost of fue sucks. The cost of vehicle maintenance and repairs sucks.
public transport is only good if it runs directly from near your home to near your work with only a short walk either end. Catching connecting buses and trains sucks.
yeah, if something good came out of the pandemic, it’s the opportunity for employers to see that people can work from home, and employees to see that that commute time takes out of their life balance…
if it takes me an hour to both get ready and get to work,, that’s a load of washing, a quick clean up, a phone call to someone I like… with nothing off the work schedule…
it’s cheaper, in so many ways – transport, coffees, clothes, makeup, time, health, happiness… the only time working in the office is good for someone is if they are the type that suffers from no human interaction… weirdos and odd balls.
UK Communist Propaganda Outlet Describes The Same Remote Working Activity Using 5 Different Euphemisms
One in eight Britons have had sex on company time while working from home, while others have slept or carried out DIY on the clock, a survey has suggested. Around a quarter of respondents also admitted to having used work time to garden or finish DIY work. Gen Z was the most likely to use work time to socialise with their friends, at 39 per cent, compared to a quarter of all those surveyed. Some 82pc of people say they have watched TV during the work day, for an average of around two hours or a quarter of a standard 8-hour shift, according to the survey of 2,000 people.
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https://www.nationalgeographic.com/premium/article/heart-attacks-rising-young-adults-risk-factors
reading that raises eyebrows, oh isn’t it woven so artfully
transition said:
SCIENCE said:https://www.nationalgeographic.com/premium/article/heart-attacks-rising-young-adults-risk-factors
reading that raises eyebrows, oh isn’t it woven so artfully
by memory, from above, possibly not verbatim…
‘…..cardiovascular disease doesn’t know international boundaries….’
sounds like a worldist friend
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-10/covid-variant-eris-eg51-in-australia-symptoms-cases-vaccines/102707970
Kingy said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
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Ah, helicopter them out.
Wait
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-29/qld-adf-chopper-crash-in-whitsundays/102663620
a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic
ah.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-06/pakistan-train-derailment-kills-at-least-30/102695550
So¿ Did they have pre-existing conditions¿
According to the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare, 19 children under the age of 14 choked to death between 2020 and 2021.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-10/at-least-36-people-have-died-in-hawaii-lahaina-fire/102715658
The before & after pics are something. I wasn’t imagining it was burning in such built up areas.
yeah. that’s going to cost some dollars.
Must have been quite horrific.
I have been invited to fight fires in Canada twice, but Hawaii is a new one. That wasn’t on my radar. I’ll bet they haven’t got much of a bushfire brigade.
Probably all due to preexisting conditions.
Michael V said:
Thanks.
And the SMH variant.
Clean Slate
Hey so if the waiting time for a mental health assessment is too long, you can access the assisted dying mental health assessment faster, what’s wrong with just jumping
A Vancouver woman who went to hospital seeking help for suicidal thoughts says she was further distressed by a clinician who unexpectedly suggested medical assistance in dying.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-maid-suicide-patient-vancouver/
Ms. Mentler says a clinician told her there would be long waits to see a psychiatrist and that the health care system is “broken.” That was followed by a jarring question: “Have you considered MAID?”
the queue¿ Oh and the best part¿
“I very specifically went there that day because I didn’t want to get into a situation where I would think about taking an overdose of medication,” Ms. Mentler, a first-year counselling student, told The Globe and Mail in an interview.
Since the medication is for-purpose, it will just be a dose, not an overdose¡
Mr. Morris said suicide deaths among people in the care of the health system are preventable, and so the health system must do what it can to meet that need. “The health system needs to have the imagination, and the creativity, and the care and the compassion, to do what it can to help people experience conditions that are worth living in,” he said.
Exactly¡ But does it need to have the funding¿ LOL of course not.
SCIENCE said:
Clean Slate
SCIENCE said:
Hey so if the waiting time for a mental health assessment is too long, you can access the assisted dying mental health assessment faster, what’s wrong with just jumping
A Vancouver woman who went to hospital seeking help for suicidal thoughts says she was further distressed by a clinician who unexpectedly suggested medical assistance in dying.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-maid-suicide-patient-vancouver/
Ms. Mentler says a clinician told her there would be long waits to see a psychiatrist and that the health care system is “broken.” That was followed by a jarring question: “Have you considered MAID?”
the queue¿ Oh and the best part¿
“I very specifically went there that day because I didn’t want to get into a situation where I would think about taking an overdose of medication,” Ms. Mentler, a first-year counselling student, told The Globe and Mail in an interview.
Since the medication is for-purpose, it will just be a dose, not an overdose¡
Mr. Morris said suicide deaths among people in the care of the health system are preventable, and so the health system must do what it can to meet that need. “The health system needs to have the imagination, and the creativity, and the care and the compassion, to do what it can to help people experience conditions that are worth living in,” he said.
Exactly¡ But does it need to have the funding¿ LOL of course not.
ms mentler
Not At School Because Getting Outdoor Experience Good¡
https://www.abc.net.au/everyday/holidays-with-children-during-school-term/102701428
Not At School Because Getting Outdoor Experience Because Indoor Crowded Air Spreads Disease, Bad¡
SCIENCE said:
Not At School Because Getting Outdoor Experience Good¡
https://www.abc.net.au/everyday/holidays-with-children-during-school-term/102701428
Not At School Because Getting Outdoor Experience Because Indoor Crowded Air Spreads Disease, Bad¡
I took my kids out of school for all sorts of other activities..
every year we would take the first Thursday of the term out to go to Adventure world (a water park) the lines were non existent, we got to do a LOT of activity due to the low numbers and by the end of the day the kids had had a years worth of PE in one day.
When I heard that our museum was closing down for five years I took the kids out to go to the museum.
When the dinosaur animations first came to Perth I took the kids out to go to that – again, fewer people, more value for time spent there. More interaction with the exhibits and staff
I would take a day in winter to take the kids to the art gallery – same reasons as above.. the docents at the museum would be happy to talk about the art work to the kids… we got to explore things rather than battle crowds for a glimpse of the work.
We would go on holidays out of school – many good reasons for this, apart from the obvious availability, lack of people and engagement increase – accomodation was cheaper, things like tours were often cheaper and the tour operators were really pleased to have people in their ‘down time’ and offered us many extras …
I think the monotony of school makes kids forget most of it.. the change makes for a great learning experience, but then they also get to appreciate the school environment more.
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
Not At School Because Getting Outdoor Experience Good¡
https://www.abc.net.au/everyday/holidays-with-children-during-school-term/102701428
Not At School Because Getting Outdoor Experience Because Indoor Crowded Air Spreads Disease, Bad¡
I took my kids out of school for all sorts of other activities..
every year we would take the first Thursday of the term out to go to Adventure world (a water park) the lines were non existent, we got to do a LOT of activity due to the low numbers and by the end of the day the kids had had a years worth of PE in one day.
When I heard that our museum was closing down for five years I took the kids out to go to the museum.
When the dinosaur animations first came to Perth I took the kids out to go to that – again, fewer people, more value for time spent there. More interaction with the exhibits and staff
I would take a day in winter to take the kids to the art gallery – same reasons as above.. the docents at the museum would be happy to talk about the art work to the kids… we got to explore things rather than battle crowds for a glimpse of the work.
We would go on holidays out of school – many good reasons for this, apart from the obvious availability, lack of people and engagement increase – accomodation was cheaper, things like tours were often cheaper and the tour operators were really pleased to have people in their ‘down time’ and offered us many extras …
I think the monotony of school makes kids forget most of it.. the change makes for a great learning experience, but then they also get to appreciate the school environment more.
Yes we agree that school “closures” during pandemic “lockdowns” actually improved children’s education and learning.
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
Not At School Because Getting Outdoor Experience Good¡
https://www.abc.net.au/everyday/holidays-with-children-during-school-term/102701428
Not At School Because Getting Outdoor Experience Because Indoor Crowded Air Spreads Disease, Bad¡
I took my kids out of school for all sorts of other activities..
every year we would take the first Thursday of the term out to go to Adventure world (a water park) the lines were non existent, we got to do a LOT of activity due to the low numbers and by the end of the day the kids had had a years worth of PE in one day.
When I heard that our museum was closing down for five years I took the kids out to go to the museum.
When the dinosaur animations first came to Perth I took the kids out to go to that – again, fewer people, more value for time spent there. More interaction with the exhibits and staff
I would take a day in winter to take the kids to the art gallery – same reasons as above.. the docents at the museum would be happy to talk about the art work to the kids… we got to explore things rather than battle crowds for a glimpse of the work.
We would go on holidays out of school – many good reasons for this, apart from the obvious availability, lack of people and engagement increase – accomodation was cheaper, things like tours were often cheaper and the tour operators were really pleased to have people in their ‘down time’ and offered us many extras …
I think the monotony of school makes kids forget most of it.. the change makes for a great learning experience, but then they also get to appreciate the school environment more.
Yes we agree that school “closures” during pandemic “lockdowns” actually improved children’s education and learning.
nah. during the closures I sent them to school
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
I took my kids out of school for all sorts of other activities..
every year we would take the first Thursday of the term out to go to Adventure world (a water park) the lines were non existent, we got to do a LOT of activity due to the low numbers and by the end of the day the kids had had a years worth of PE in one day.
When I heard that our museum was closing down for five years I took the kids out to go to the museum.
When the dinosaur animations first came to Perth I took the kids out to go to that – again, fewer people, more value for time spent there. More interaction with the exhibits and staff
I would take a day in winter to take the kids to the art gallery – same reasons as above.. the docents at the museum would be happy to talk about the art work to the kids… we got to explore things rather than battle crowds for a glimpse of the work.
We would go on holidays out of school – many good reasons for this, apart from the obvious availability, lack of people and engagement increase – accomodation was cheaper, things like tours were often cheaper and the tour operators were really pleased to have people in their ‘down time’ and offered us many extras …
I think the monotony of school makes kids forget most of it.. the change makes for a great learning experience, but then they also get to appreciate the school environment more.
Yes we agree that school “closures” during pandemic “lockdowns” actually improved children’s education and learning.
nah. during the closures I sent them to school
Wait they weren’t actually closed¿¡ OMG¡
PermeateFree said:
Two new studies have examined the effects of microplastics on the brain and heartMicroplastics are everywhere, including being found to enter our bodies through cavities exposed to the outside world. Two new studies have further examined the effect of microplastics on our health, with one finding that they cause brain inflammation and the second finding them in the heart, a completely enclosed organ.
Although small, at less than 5 mm (0.2 in) wide, microplastics have gained big notoriety of late, being found everywhere in the world, from the summits of Mount Everest to the depths of the ocean. So it’s hardly surprising that microplastics have also made their way into our internal organs.
Two recent studies have investigated microplastics in organs and the effects they might have. The first, undertaken by researchers at South Korea’s Daegu Gyeongbuk Institute of Science and Technology (DGIST), examined the effect of ingested weathered microplastics on the brains of rats. The second, by the Capital Medical University in Beijing, China, looked at microplastics found in the heart and bloodstream before and after surgery.
The DGIST study concerned the toxicity of weathered microplastics, which have undergone natural degradation after exposure to ultraviolet (UV) light and wind. With previous studies showing that microplastics can enter the tissues of living organisms, including humans, the researchers wanted to see whether they produced harmful effects on the brain.
Weathering caused by sunlight, air, heat, rain and wind alters the physical and chemical properties of microplastics. UV light, for example, causes a reaction that produces free radicals and promotes the fragmentation of the plastic into smaller particles called secondary microplastics. However, the precise biological effects of weathered microplastics are poorly understood.
The researchers artificially created secondary microplastics by replicating the process of natural weathering, subjecting crushed microplastics to UV light and physical impact for seven days. They then orally administered the weathered microplastics, measuring 100 micrometers or less, to rats once a day for seven days. Another group of rats were fed unweathered microplastics.
They found that, compared to the control group, the rats fed weathered microplastics showed a significant increase in the expression of inflammatory proteins associated with neurodegeneration and cell death, as well as a decrease in pro-inflammatory proteins in the external brain tissue. After conducting experiments using a human microglial cell line, the cells that regulate brain inflammation, the researchers found that the weathered microplastics stimulated the microglia to activate an inflammatory response.
The researchers say their findings suggest that weathered microplastics are more toxic than unweathered ones.
“Through proteomics-based analysis, we have, for the first time, identified that plastic leaked into the environment undergoes an accelerated weathering process, transforming into secondary microplastics that can serve as neurotoxic substances, leading to increased inflammation and cell death in the brain,” said Seong-Kyoon Choi, corresponding author of the study. “The implications of microplastics’ harmfulness are particularly alarming, as secondary microplastics exposed in natural environments induce a more severe inflammatory response in the brain.”
The DGIST study demonstrates that microplastics can produce harmful effects when ingested, but can microplastics make their way to our innermost organs, such as the heart, which is not directly exposed to the environment? The Capital Medical University study shows that the answer to that question is ‘yes.’
In this study, researchers collected heart samples from 15 people during heart surgery, in addition to pre- and postoperative blood samples from seven of the participants. Analyzing the samples using laser direct infrared imaging, they found microplastics in the heart and surrounding tissues.
Microplastics were not found in all tissue samples, but nine types were found across five types of heart tissue, measuring between 20 and 500 micrometers in width. Nine types of microplastics were also detected in pre- and postoperative blood samples.
The plastics found were polyethylene (PE), polyethylene terephthalate (PET), polyurethane (PU), polyvinyl chloride (PVC), polycarbonate (PC), polypropylene (PP), polyamine (PA), polystyrene (PS), and poly(methyl methacrylate) (PMMA). PET was the most prevalent (77%) in tissue samples. The most prevalent plastics in blood samples were PA (49%) and PET (22%).
Tens to thousands of individual microplastic pieces were observed in most tissue samples, though amounts and plastic types varied across participants. All of the blood samples – pre- and post-surgery – contained plastic particles of diverse types, but after surgery, their average size decreased.
The researchers say their study provides preliminary evidence that microplastics can accumulate in the heart despite being enclosed in the chest cavity. They say it also shows that an overlooked path of microplastic exposure, especially the larger particles, is invasive medical procedures, which may permit direct access to the bloodstream and tissues.
Further studies are needed to investigate how microparticles enter the heart tissues and their potential effects on long-term prognosis following heart surgery.
The study about weathered microplastics and brain inflammation was published in the journal Environmental Research, while the study about microplastics in the heart was published in the journal Environmental Science & Technology.
https://newatlas.com/medical/microplastics-trigger-brain-inflammation-found-in-heart-tissue/
Good news¡ SARACAIDS-CoV has an alibi¡ Or plausible deninability¡ Or something¡
SCIENCE said:
PermeateFree said:
Two new studies have examined the effects of microplastics on the brain and heartMicroplastics are everywhere, including being found to enter our bodies through cavities exposed to the outside world. Two new studies have further examined the effect of microplastics on our health, with one finding that they cause brain inflammation and the second finding them in the heart, a completely enclosed organ.
Although small, at less than 5 mm (0.2 in) wide, microplastics have gained big notoriety of late, being found everywhere in the world, from the summits of Mount Everest to the depths of the ocean. So it’s hardly surprising that microplastics have also made their way into our internal organs.
Two recent studies have investigated microplastics in organs and the effects they might have. The first, undertaken by researchers at South Korea’s Daegu Gyeongbuk Institute of Science and Technology (DGIST), examined the effect of ingested weathered microplastics on the brains of rats. The second, by the Capital Medical University in Beijing, China, looked at microplastics found in the heart and bloodstream before and after surgery.
The DGIST study concerned the toxicity of weathered microplastics, which have undergone natural degradation after exposure to ultraviolet (UV) light and wind. With previous studies showing that microplastics can enter the tissues of living organisms, including humans, the researchers wanted to see whether they produced harmful effects on the brain.
Weathering caused by sunlight, air, heat, rain and wind alters the physical and chemical properties of microplastics. UV light, for example, causes a reaction that produces free radicals and promotes the fragmentation of the plastic into smaller particles called secondary microplastics. However, the precise biological effects of weathered microplastics are poorly understood.
The researchers artificially created secondary microplastics by replicating the process of natural weathering, subjecting crushed microplastics to UV light and physical impact for seven days. They then orally administered the weathered microplastics, measuring 100 micrometers or less, to rats once a day for seven days. Another group of rats were fed unweathered microplastics.
They found that, compared to the control group, the rats fed weathered microplastics showed a significant increase in the expression of inflammatory proteins associated with neurodegeneration and cell death, as well as a decrease in pro-inflammatory proteins in the external brain tissue. After conducting experiments using a human microglial cell line, the cells that regulate brain inflammation, the researchers found that the weathered microplastics stimulated the microglia to activate an inflammatory response.
The researchers say their findings suggest that weathered microplastics are more toxic than unweathered ones.
“Through proteomics-based analysis, we have, for the first time, identified that plastic leaked into the environment undergoes an accelerated weathering process, transforming into secondary microplastics that can serve as neurotoxic substances, leading to increased inflammation and cell death in the brain,” said Seong-Kyoon Choi, corresponding author of the study. “The implications of microplastics’ harmfulness are particularly alarming, as secondary microplastics exposed in natural environments induce a more severe inflammatory response in the brain.”
The DGIST study demonstrates that microplastics can produce harmful effects when ingested, but can microplastics make their way to our innermost organs, such as the heart, which is not directly exposed to the environment? The Capital Medical University study shows that the answer to that question is ‘yes.’
In this study, researchers collected heart samples from 15 people during heart surgery, in addition to pre- and postoperative blood samples from seven of the participants. Analyzing the samples using laser direct infrared imaging, they found microplastics in the heart and surrounding tissues.
Microplastics were not found in all tissue samples, but nine types were found across five types of heart tissue, measuring between 20 and 500 micrometers in width. Nine types of microplastics were also detected in pre- and postoperative blood samples.
The plastics found were polyethylene (PE), polyethylene terephthalate (PET), polyurethane (PU), polyvinyl chloride (PVC), polycarbonate (PC), polypropylene (PP), polyamine (PA), polystyrene (PS), and poly(methyl methacrylate) (PMMA). PET was the most prevalent (77%) in tissue samples. The most prevalent plastics in blood samples were PA (49%) and PET (22%).
Tens to thousands of individual microplastic pieces were observed in most tissue samples, though amounts and plastic types varied across participants. All of the blood samples – pre- and post-surgery – contained plastic particles of diverse types, but after surgery, their average size decreased.
The researchers say their study provides preliminary evidence that microplastics can accumulate in the heart despite being enclosed in the chest cavity. They say it also shows that an overlooked path of microplastic exposure, especially the larger particles, is invasive medical procedures, which may permit direct access to the bloodstream and tissues.
Further studies are needed to investigate how microparticles enter the heart tissues and their potential effects on long-term prognosis following heart surgery.
The study about weathered microplastics and brain inflammation was published in the journal Environmental Research, while the study about microplastics in the heart was published in the journal Environmental Science & Technology.
https://newatlas.com/medical/microplastics-trigger-brain-inflammation-found-in-heart-tissue/
Good news¡ SARACAIDS-CoV has an alibi¡ Or plausible deninability¡ Or something¡
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:PermeateFree said:
Two new studies have examined the effects of microplastics on the brain and heartMicroplastics are everywhere, including being found to enter our bodies through cavities exposed to the outside world. Two new studies have further examined the effect of microplastics on our health, with one finding that they cause brain inflammation and the second finding them in the heart, a completely enclosed organ.
Although small, at less than 5 mm (0.2 in) wide, microplastics have gained big notoriety of late, being found everywhere in the world, from the summits of Mount Everest to the depths of the ocean. So it’s hardly surprising that microplastics have also made their way into our internal organs.
Two recent studies have investigated microplastics in organs and the effects they might have. The first, undertaken by researchers at South Korea’s Daegu Gyeongbuk Institute of Science and Technology (DGIST), examined the effect of ingested weathered microplastics on the brains of rats. The second, by the Capital Medical University in Beijing, China, looked at microplastics found in the heart and bloodstream before and after surgery.
The DGIST study concerned the toxicity of weathered microplastics, which have undergone natural degradation after exposure to ultraviolet (UV) light and wind. With previous studies showing that microplastics can enter the tissues of living organisms, including humans, the researchers wanted to see whether they produced harmful effects on the brain.
Weathering caused by sunlight, air, heat, rain and wind alters the physical and chemical properties of microplastics. UV light, for example, causes a reaction that produces free radicals and promotes the fragmentation of the plastic into smaller particles called secondary microplastics. However, the precise biological effects of weathered microplastics are poorly understood.
The researchers artificially created secondary microplastics by replicating the process of natural weathering, subjecting crushed microplastics to UV light and physical impact for seven days. They then orally administered the weathered microplastics, measuring 100 micrometers or less, to rats once a day for seven days. Another group of rats were fed unweathered microplastics.
They found that, compared to the control group, the rats fed weathered microplastics showed a significant increase in the expression of inflammatory proteins associated with neurodegeneration and cell death, as well as a decrease in pro-inflammatory proteins in the external brain tissue. After conducting experiments using a human microglial cell line, the cells that regulate brain inflammation, the researchers found that the weathered microplastics stimulated the microglia to activate an inflammatory response.
The researchers say their findings suggest that weathered microplastics are more toxic than unweathered ones.
“Through proteomics-based analysis, we have, for the first time, identified that plastic leaked into the environment undergoes an accelerated weathering process, transforming into secondary microplastics that can serve as neurotoxic substances, leading to increased inflammation and cell death in the brain,” said Seong-Kyoon Choi, corresponding author of the study. “The implications of microplastics’ harmfulness are particularly alarming, as secondary microplastics exposed in natural environments induce a more severe inflammatory response in the brain.”
The DGIST study demonstrates that microplastics can produce harmful effects when ingested, but can microplastics make their way to our innermost organs, such as the heart, which is not directly exposed to the environment? The Capital Medical University study shows that the answer to that question is ‘yes.’
In this study, researchers collected heart samples from 15 people during heart surgery, in addition to pre- and postoperative blood samples from seven of the participants. Analyzing the samples using laser direct infrared imaging, they found microplastics in the heart and surrounding tissues.
Microplastics were not found in all tissue samples, but nine types were found across five types of heart tissue, measuring between 20 and 500 micrometers in width. Nine types of microplastics were also detected in pre- and postoperative blood samples.
The plastics found were polyethylene (PE), polyethylene terephthalate (PET), polyurethane (PU), polyvinyl chloride (PVC), polycarbonate (PC), polypropylene (PP), polyamine (PA), polystyrene (PS), and poly(methyl methacrylate) (PMMA). PET was the most prevalent (77%) in tissue samples. The most prevalent plastics in blood samples were PA (49%) and PET (22%).
Tens to thousands of individual microplastic pieces were observed in most tissue samples, though amounts and plastic types varied across participants. All of the blood samples – pre- and post-surgery – contained plastic particles of diverse types, but after surgery, their average size decreased.
The researchers say their study provides preliminary evidence that microplastics can accumulate in the heart despite being enclosed in the chest cavity. They say it also shows that an overlooked path of microplastic exposure, especially the larger particles, is invasive medical procedures, which may permit direct access to the bloodstream and tissues.
Further studies are needed to investigate how microparticles enter the heart tissues and their potential effects on long-term prognosis following heart surgery.
The study about weathered microplastics and brain inflammation was published in the journal Environmental Research, while the study about microplastics in the heart was published in the journal Environmental Science & Technology.
https://newatlas.com/medical/microplastics-trigger-brain-inflammation-found-in-heart-tissue/
Good news¡ SARACAIDS-CoV has an alibi¡ Or plausible deninability¡ Or something¡
great news for the grandkids.
Something else to add to our anxiety level.
They’re Just Trying To Scare You With Dirty Black And White Pictures Oh Wait
What Are Colours¿
In Breaking News: Life Expectancy Reflects Health ¿¡
SCIENCE said:
In Breaking News: Life Expectancy Reflects Health ¿¡
Lolol, yes! So much “We’re the Greatest Country in the World!!”.
We apologise for speaking the wrong langwich to yous all this time.
Radical Idea: All Workplaces Should Be Brothels
Don’t Say We Never Give Yous Any Good News
https://www.kirby.unsw.edu.au/news/universal-sirna-covid-19-treatment-shows-promise-lab
Lab data in cells has shown that siRNA has the potential to treat COVID-19 infection better than existing antivirals, according to new research from UNSW’s Kirby and RNA Institutes, published today in Antiviral Research. siRNA – which stands for short interfering RNA – are a tiny type of RNA, much smaller than the mRNA currently used in vaccines. They work by interfering and disrupting the protein production of a gene, including those from viruses.
SCIENCE said:
Don’t Say We Never Give Yous Any Good News
https://www.kirby.unsw.edu.au/news/universal-sirna-covid-19-treatment-shows-promise-lab
Lab data in cells has shown that siRNA has the potential to treat COVID-19 infection better than existing antivirals, according to new research from UNSW’s Kirby and RNA Institutes, published today in Antiviral Research. siRNA – which stands for short interfering RNA – are a tiny type of RNA, much smaller than the mRNA currently used in vaccines. They work by interfering and disrupting the protein production of a gene, including those from viruses.
Sorry Our Bad
“We’re hopeful that in a few years the siRNA’s will be available as an easy and effective treatment option, allowing all of us, and in particular people who are immunocompromised, to live with COVID-19,” she says.
Fuck.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-13/mary-louise-mclaws-renowned-epidemiologist-dies/102724932
SCIENCE said:
Fuck.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-13/mary-louise-mclaws-renowned-epidemiologist-dies/102724932
The name is only vaguely familiar to me. I must have watched national and Victorian stuff during the pandemic, not NSW stuff.
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:Fuck.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-13/mary-louise-mclaws-renowned-epidemiologist-dies/102724932
The name is only vaguely familiar to me. I must have watched national and Victorian stuff during the pandemic, not NSW stuff.
A real loss. She was a knowledgeable and thoughtful commentator during the pandemic, who was able to communicate in a simple manner without losing scientific integrity.
SCIENCE said:
Fuck.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-13/mary-louise-mclaws-renowned-epidemiologist-dies/102724932
“..In the darkest days of the pandemic — when people didn’t know whether to wash the canned goods they’d brought home from the supermarket or buy a gas mask so they could safely exercise for one hour a day..”
dunno about that intro
i’m only two slurps into my first coffee, neuron wasn’t firing right, and hadn’t cleaned my glasses
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
Fuck.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-13/mary-louise-mclaws-renowned-epidemiologist-dies/102724932
The name is only vaguely familiar to me. I must have watched national and Victorian stuff during the pandemic, not NSW stuff.
LOL
she was already a revered international figure in the world of disease control and infection prevention, who had worked with Beijing to prevent SARS from becoming a global pandemic; who had become a major figure in the World Health Organization and
Mary-Louise Professor McLaws was born in Tasmania on March 17, 1953
WHO adviser to China in 2002, working on the ground in Hong Kong to help control SARS, and then in Malaysia
Professor Emerita Robyn Richmond describes her as “the focal point of reason and information for WHO in our region of the world”.
Exactly¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-14/meningococcal-cases-on-the-rise/102704770
If only we’d Let
Ms Hammat took Khye to the Mount Barker Hospital in the Adelaide Hills but was not allowed to enter the emergency department due to COVID restrictions.
It Rip® from the start, then families could be happy their children died with SARACAIDS-CoV For The Economy Must Grow instead of sad that they died of a lethal and horrific infectious disease
wait.
SCIENCE said:
Exactly¡
Fuck these communists who want people to do something mandatory which might help others, they’re almost
St John Ambulance is currently lobbying the state government to make it mandatory for people to get basic first aid training when they get their driver’s licence.
as bad as those dickheads who conformity mandate that people remove marks for the public good of The Economy Must Grow
wait.
Locally contracted malaria is happening in Florida now, but CNN and Accuweather felt they needed to emphasize that it’s rare and mostly comes from going to those other countries in their headlines.1 With the Canadian wildfire smoke polluting the air over upstate New York and northeastern Pennsylvania in June 2023, the National Weather Service Binghamton chose to tweet about the horrendous air quality pollution by mentioning how mild the temperatures will be – mentioning the word “mild” twice in one tweet.2 It’s interesting how often the word “mild” is used to portray danger as benign, and even to promote moral disengagement.3 And some even attempt to portray people as having “untreated mental illness” when protecting themselves from smoke inhalation with NIOSH approved N95 masks.4
I suppose there are those who would mock the majority of people who fled Pompeii5 and think the reasonable bet really was getting pyroclasted into a grim posterity by the volcano, but I think most of us believe the people who fled were correct to do so.6 There are still some big shot elites who literally put themselves and others into a watery grave railing against the spectre of a “safety argument” against so-called innovation.7
Normalizing Harm
Normalizing negative effects and harmful outcomes is a cognitive warfare8 psychological strategy to delegitimize health & safety precautions, by manufacturing doubt.9
There are powerful interests who do not want safety precautions and are politically aligned against public health of any kind. They see prioritizing human health as a threat to their profits,10 counter to their long-term goals,11 and standing in the way of their eugenicist12 and pseudoscience-based ideological plans.13 Under the guise of individualism,14 these overlapping interests, including libertarian elites,15 the fossil fuel industry,16 and commercial real estate,17 among others, drive narratives to convince people oriented as conservatives to embrace ignorance on public health,18 and push the notion to everyone that sensible public health policies are hostile and unnecessary, or turn public health upside down, where safety is danger and danger is safety.19 All to put butts in seats downtown for The Economy. People hate the long commutes that benefit the fossil fuel industry, and people who don’t want to get sick tend to avoid working in crowded offices or eating in busy restaurants. So mocking those concerns as “irrational” anxiety, and ridiculing people for their alarm20 is used as a bullying tactic. It’s a long time anti-vax trope21 that’s deployed in climate contrarian propaganda, and to mock LGBTQ+ and Black activists.22
And what are they mocking? It’s perfectly reasonable to NOT want to get sick for days or weeks — the expected course of “mild covid”23 — and put up with that a couple times per year — the expected per person infection rate according to an epidemiologist who cited UK data.24 And most people considering the options would prefer to not risk getting severe Long Covid complications like Physics Girl has been facing since her mild acute case of covid — a formerly energetic Youtuber now often not able to stand up.25 The S in SARS stands for Severe, but even when it’s not very severe, sickness is just not desirable. Most Americans don’t have 2-8 weeks of paid sick time per year,26 and most low-wage workers have none at all,27 so mild is a relative term in that context as well.
It’s entirely normal to avoid sickness and injury, delaying incapacitation and death is the whole driving force of nearly all living creatures since the beginning of time. It’s the whole reason we have doctors and healthcare services. Why even bother with medical science if you just thought people ought to put up with being incapacitated and dying young? But many doctors have allowed themselves to be used as authority figures to manufacture doubt in promoting dangerous things. At one time the government allowed cigarettes to be advertised so widely that people thought it must be alright.28 The power of authority is persuasive.29
“Many people rationalize that if it were really dangerous the government wouldn’t let it be advertised. They are wrong in that thinking. It is dangerous and the government does let it be advertised.”
- Rick Pollay, Pack of Lies: The Advertising of Tobacco (1992)
Perhaps not surprisingly, historically, this word “mild” was very much a favoured word of the tobacco industry in their PR and advertising.30 People suspected smoking was bad for you and so they would claim a brand was “less irritating” according to doctors.31 They specifically described cigarettes as mild “so as not to provoke anxiety about health, but to alleviate it, and enable the smoker to feel assured about the habit and confident in maintaining it over time.”32
Industries pump out manufacturing doubt33 to portray any and all harms as supposedly mild, or even non-existent. And whenever they’re embroiled in any catastrophes, they typically default to trying to spin perception instead of addressing the harm.34 The elite panic phenomenon unfortunately seems likely for anyone in a position of power.35
🚩 Mild Red Flags 🚩
The word “MILD” has been so abused by PR and propaganda that it now should be an immediate red flag – a sign that it’s time to disengage autopilot, the “System 1” thinking that may accept without question things that sounds pleasant because it’s cognitively easier,36 and engage in critical thinking, so as not to be soothed and cooed into accepting bullshit or danger. The word “NORMAL” should also be looked upon with suspicion, since normal has repeatedly been forced37 as a political slogan38 and PR talking point,39 to try and convince people toward feeling assured that the harm happening is really okay actually. Once you notice the trick, the trick is nerfed.40
In a cognitive attack the whole point is that the target shouldn’t know they’re being attacked in order for it to be really effective. So that’s whole trick to keep the target unaware because if the target becomes aware that they’re being attacked in this way, just by them becoming aware it significantly reduces the effect of the attack.” — Rand Waltzman
MILD and NORMAL are always relative terms.
https://teamshuman.substack.com/p/manufacturing-mild
SCIENCE said:
LOL
I does reads, reads words, sentences, brian has ideas, concepts, works with concepts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-synuclein
SCIENCE said:
LOL
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Now Isn’t That A Goddamn Surprise¿
The Economy Must Grow¡
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
I haven’t seen any posts from roughbarked today.
One at 10:06 today.
It’s the Trump Biden Strategy, don’t test, don’t ask, no cases, no homo¡
LOL
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
One at 10:06 today.
It’s the Trump Biden Strategy, don’t test, don’t ask, no cases, no homo¡
LOL
Read Between The Lines
Genuine question for yous geniuses more intelligent than us out there, because we honestly don’t know why they haven’t didn’t don’t probably won’t.
Why haven’t didn’t don’t probably won’t they¿
SCIENCE said:
Genuine question for yous geniuses more intelligent than us out there, because we honestly don’t know why they haven’t didn’t don’t probably won’t.
Why haven’t didn’t don’t probably won’t they¿
Maybe they can’t afford it.
SCIENCE said:
Genuine question for yous geniuses more intelligent than us out there, because we honestly don’t know why they haven’t didn’t don’t probably won’t.
Why haven’t didn’t don’t probably won’t they¿
I mean the CDC hardly shut up about masks for two years
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
Genuine question for yous geniuses more intelligent than us out there, because we honestly don’t know why they haven’t didn’t don’t probably won’t.
Why haven’t didn’t don’t probably won’t they¿
Maybe they can’t afford it.
I mean the CDC hardly shut up about masks for two years
Fine we mean remember when Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) was shit and so they plugged mRNA vaccines and shit, then all kinds of nucleotide mutagen medicines were released as treatments, and it was all about “we have all the tools” and yet the messaging about shitty surgical masks hasn’t developed¿
Especially when the vaccine costs 50 times more than a mask that does work, and the mask that does work will 99.5% prevent infection while the vaccine will 10% prevent infection, we mean, WTF¿
Witty Rejoinder said:
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Kingy said:
Bubblecar said:
Must have been quite horrific.
I have been invited to fight fires in Canada twice, but Hawaii is a new one. That wasn’t on my radar. I’ll bet they haven’t got much of a bushfire brigade.
Probably all due to preexisting conditions.
When Tragedy Strikes in China, the Government Cracks Down on Grief
The Chinese government represses public grief, withholding information and stanching displays of mourning to tell history the way it wants it told.By Li Yuan
Aug. 14, 2023Many innocent lives were lost to tragic events in China in the past month. So far we haven’t learned a single name of any of them from China’s government or its official media. Nor have we seen news interviews of family members talking about their loved ones.
Those victims would include a coach and 10 members of a middle-school girls volleyball team who were killed in late July when the roof caved in on a gymnasium near the Siberian border. Despite an outpouring of public grief and anger around the country, the government never released their names. Social media posts sharing their names and tributes to their lives were censored.
Then there were the people — probably dozens, possibly hundreds — who died in severe flooding in northern and northeastern China in recent weeks. It was the most serious flooding in the country in decades. Posts about the casualties, and the hardships people endured, were censored.
In 2015, it was the 442 people who perished when a cruise ship sank on the Yangtze River, and last year, the 132 who died in a plane crash in southwestern China. And of course the many, many people who have died from Covid and remain unaccounted for.
In the past decade or so, the Chinese government has tightly controlled how tragedy is reported by the news media and portrayed on social media. Official media seldom discloses victims’ names. Family members run into trouble with the authorities if they mourn the dead publicly or loudly. This kind of emotional repression on a mass scale reflects the party’s expectation of the Chinese people: to play only one role, that of the obedient and grateful subject, no matter what happens to them.
Image
A gymnasium lit up at night, its roof having collapsed, as numerous orange-clad emergency workers search debris.
After a gym roof collapsed in Qiqihar, the government never released the names of the 11 people who died. Social media posts sharing their names and tributes were censored.Credit…Zhang Tao/Xinhua, via Associated Press“After every tragedy, we always hope to find the names of all the victims so we can silently read them in our hearts and spread them in public,” an online commentator wrote about the deaths of the volleyball team. “Unfortunately, this humble wish is often difficult for us to fulfill.” The article was censored on a news portal subject to Beijing’s rules.
There’s a reason for the enforced omission and silence. In the view of the Chinese Communist Party, its rule should be celebrated no matter the circumstances. Victims of public tragedies are inconvenient facts highlighting that not everything under the party’s watch is glorious. Their deaths are testimony of its failure.
The government’s determination to silence discussion of public tragedies dates to Mao Zedong. Xi Jinping, China’s current paramount leader, has carried the practice forward.
“He wants to eliminate the history by eliminating the collective memory,” said Song Yongyi, a Los Angeles historian who specializes in the study of the Cultural Revolution.
The Communist Party has never been candid about the truth of its rule. It never disclosed how many people died during the Great Famine from 1959 to 1961; historians have found evidence that the number ranged from millions to tens of millions. It is not known exactly how many were killed in the bloody crackdown on Tiananmen Square protesters in 1989, though estimates of the number of deaths ranged from hundreds to several thousand.
Members of an organization of relatives of Tiananmen victims, called “the Tiananmen Mothers,” were harassed, surveilled and detained. At the top of their demands was “the right to mourn peacefully in public.”
The party relaxed its control somewhat in the 1990s and 2000s, and people like the investigative journalist Zhang Wenmin, who is known by her pen name, Jiang Xue, did their best to humanize their disaster coverage.
After the earthquake in Sichuan on May 12, 2008, in which more than 69,000 people died, Ms. Zhang and many other journalists, artists and activists tried to record the names and life stories of the dead. They produced some of China’s best journalistic and artistic works in recent memory despite occasional censorship.
“The Chinese public used to be referred to as nameless ‘masses’ in the party media outlets,” Ms. Zhang said. “Now they’re back to the ‘masses’ again with neither name nor face in the media.”
But even the limited freedom of expression that was afforded during that period has been eliminated under Mr. Xi, who has tightened the state’s control of information and how the past is remembered.
“Xi Jinping has made control of history one of his signature policies — because he sees counter-history as an existential threat,” Ian Johnson, an author who has covered China for decades, wrote in his new book, “Sparks: China’s Underground Historians and their Battle for the Future.”
Mr. Xi has turned the screws extra tight since the Covid pandemic. In April 2020, relatives of Wuhan residents who died were followed by minders when they picked up the ashes of their loved ones.
The government ignored a citizen demand to make Feb. 6 a nationwide day of mourning to mark the death of Dr. Li Wenliang, the whistle-blower who had warned the public of the coronavirus.
“We have always known that our speech is not free, our voice is not free. Yet we do not realize until today that even sorrow and mourning do not belong to us,” Ms. Zhang, the independent journalist, wrote in an article that was widely circulated on WeChat and other social media platforms before it was censored.
A recent video of the bereaved father of a volleyball player killed in the gymnasium collapse in Qiqihar highlighted the cruel reality faced by family members in public tragedies: Their grief, in the eyes of the government, makes them potential threats to social stability.
In the six-minute video, the father remained preternaturally composed as he tried to reason with the police, doctors and government officials at a hospital. He and other family members wanted to be allowed to identify the bodies of their daughters.
The father said he understood why the police were at the hospital. “We didn’t cause any troubles,” he said. He said he understood why no officials bothered to talk to them. “That’s fine,” he said.
Many people said online and in interviews that they cried watching the video because they recognized his “heart-wrenching restraint” and knew why he behaved that way.
“What happens if he didn’t hold back his anger?” asked an author in an article posted on social media. “As a father who has suffered such immense pain, why did he have to reason with such restraint and humility?”
As usual, the censorship machine went into high gear. Social media posts containing names of the victims and celebrating their lives and friendships were deleted. So were photos and videos showing the entrance of their school, where the public sent numerous flower bouquets, yogurt, milk tea and canned peaches, which is a comfort food for children in northeastern China.
The most recent example of how the government tries to hide the mass suffering of the Chinese people is the flooding in northern China.
Areas in Hebei Province near Beijing were hit the hardest because the authorities opened spillways to partly protect Xiong’an, a city that is being expanded to serve as an alternate national capital. It is one of Mr. Xi’s pet projects. The Hebei government said on Thursday that 29 people died and 16 were missing in the flooding. On the social media platform Weibo, some commentators said the government was lying about the casualties; on some posts, the comment function was disabled.
Some social media posts and first-person accounts of the flooding were censored. Among the blocked posts were complaints from people who said that government officials were nowhere to be seen when they needed help, and only showed up after the flood receded.
On the home page of the Chinese central government, the top article is a story from the official Xinhua News Agency.
The headline reads: “Under the strong and resolute leadership of Comrade Xi Jinping, the Central Committee of the Party commands and directs the flood control, disaster relief and emergency response efforts in Hebei Province.”
Nearly 4,990 words, the article listed many things the government had done, including the number of text alerts it had sent. It did not mention how many people died or were missing or homeless. They would be the nameless “masses” who were, of course, grateful for the government’s rescue.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/business/china-flooding-tragedy-mourning.html ?
Wait
a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic
has already been quoted oh shit.
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
Probably all due to preexisting conditions.
When Tragedy Strikes in China, the Government Cracks Down on Grief
The Chinese government represses public grief, withholding information and stanching displays of mourning to tell history the way it wants it told.By Li Yuan
Aug. 14, 2023Many innocent lives were lost to tragic events in China in the past month. So far we haven’t learned a single name of any of them from China’s government or its official media. Nor have we seen news interviews of family members talking about their loved ones.
Those victims would include a coach and 10 members of a middle-school girls volleyball team who were killed in late July when the roof caved in on a gymnasium near the Siberian border. Despite an outpouring of public grief and anger around the country, the government never released their names. Social media posts sharing their names and tributes to their lives were censored.
Then there were the people — probably dozens, possibly hundreds — who died in severe flooding in northern and northeastern China in recent weeks. It was the most serious flooding in the country in decades. Posts about the casualties, and the hardships people endured, were censored.
In 2015, it was the 442 people who perished when a cruise ship sank on the Yangtze River, and last year, the 132 who died in a plane crash in southwestern China. And of course the many, many people who have died from Covid and remain unaccounted for.
In the past decade or so, the Chinese government has tightly controlled how tragedy is reported by the news media and portrayed on social media. Official media seldom discloses victims’ names. Family members run into trouble with the authorities if they mourn the dead publicly or loudly. This kind of emotional repression on a mass scale reflects the party’s expectation of the Chinese people: to play only one role, that of the obedient and grateful subject, no matter what happens to them.
Image
A gymnasium lit up at night, its roof having collapsed, as numerous orange-clad emergency workers search debris.
After a gym roof collapsed in Qiqihar, the government never released the names of the 11 people who died. Social media posts sharing their names and tributes were censored.Credit…Zhang Tao/Xinhua, via Associated Press“After every tragedy, we always hope to find the names of all the victims so we can silently read them in our hearts and spread them in public,” an online commentator wrote about the deaths of the volleyball team. “Unfortunately, this humble wish is often difficult for us to fulfill.” The article was censored on a news portal subject to Beijing’s rules.
There’s a reason for the enforced omission and silence. In the view of the Chinese Communist Party, its rule should be celebrated no matter the circumstances. Victims of public tragedies are inconvenient facts highlighting that not everything under the party’s watch is glorious. Their deaths are testimony of its failure.
The government’s determination to silence discussion of public tragedies dates to Mao Zedong. Xi Jinping, China’s current paramount leader, has carried the practice forward.
“He wants to eliminate the history by eliminating the collective memory,” said Song Yongyi, a Los Angeles historian who specializes in the study of the Cultural Revolution.
The Communist Party has never been candid about the truth of its rule. It never disclosed how many people died during the Great Famine from 1959 to 1961; historians have found evidence that the number ranged from millions to tens of millions. It is not known exactly how many were killed in the bloody crackdown on Tiananmen Square protesters in 1989, though estimates of the number of deaths ranged from hundreds to several thousand.
Members of an organization of relatives of Tiananmen victims, called “the Tiananmen Mothers,” were harassed, surveilled and detained. At the top of their demands was “the right to mourn peacefully in public.”
The party relaxed its control somewhat in the 1990s and 2000s, and people like the investigative journalist Zhang Wenmin, who is known by her pen name, Jiang Xue, did their best to humanize their disaster coverage.
After the earthquake in Sichuan on May 12, 2008, in which more than 69,000 people died, Ms. Zhang and many other journalists, artists and activists tried to record the names and life stories of the dead. They produced some of China’s best journalistic and artistic works in recent memory despite occasional censorship.
“The Chinese public used to be referred to as nameless ‘masses’ in the party media outlets,” Ms. Zhang said. “Now they’re back to the ‘masses’ again with neither name nor face in the media.”
But even the limited freedom of expression that was afforded during that period has been eliminated under Mr. Xi, who has tightened the state’s control of information and how the past is remembered.
“Xi Jinping has made control of history one of his signature policies — because he sees counter-history as an existential threat,” Ian Johnson, an author who has covered China for decades, wrote in his new book, “Sparks: China’s Underground Historians and their Battle for the Future.”
Mr. Xi has turned the screws extra tight since the Covid pandemic. In April 2020, relatives of Wuhan residents who died were followed by minders when they picked up the ashes of their loved ones.
The government ignored a citizen demand to make Feb. 6 a nationwide day of mourning to mark the death of Dr. Li Wenliang, the whistle-blower who had warned the public of the coronavirus.
“We have always known that our speech is not free, our voice is not free. Yet we do not realize until today that even sorrow and mourning do not belong to us,” Ms. Zhang, the independent journalist, wrote in an article that was widely circulated on WeChat and other social media platforms before it was censored.
A recent video of the bereaved father of a volleyball player killed in the gymnasium collapse in Qiqihar highlighted the cruel reality faced by family members in public tragedies: Their grief, in the eyes of the government, makes them potential threats to social stability.
In the six-minute video, the father remained preternaturally composed as he tried to reason with the police, doctors and government officials at a hospital. He and other family members wanted to be allowed to identify the bodies of their daughters.
The father said he understood why the police were at the hospital. “We didn’t cause any troubles,” he said. He said he understood why no officials bothered to talk to them. “That’s fine,” he said.
Many people said online and in interviews that they cried watching the video because they recognized his “heart-wrenching restraint” and knew why he behaved that way.
“What happens if he didn’t hold back his anger?” asked an author in an article posted on social media. “As a father who has suffered such immense pain, why did he have to reason with such restraint and humility?”
As usual, the censorship machine went into high gear. Social media posts containing names of the victims and celebrating their lives and friendships were deleted. So were photos and videos showing the entrance of their school, where the public sent numerous flower bouquets, yogurt, milk tea and canned peaches, which is a comfort food for children in northeastern China.
The most recent example of how the government tries to hide the mass suffering of the Chinese people is the flooding in northern China.
Areas in Hebei Province near Beijing were hit the hardest because the authorities opened spillways to partly protect Xiong’an, a city that is being expanded to serve as an alternate national capital. It is one of Mr. Xi’s pet projects. The Hebei government said on Thursday that 29 people died and 16 were missing in the flooding. On the social media platform Weibo, some commentators said the government was lying about the casualties; on some posts, the comment function was disabled.
Some social media posts and first-person accounts of the flooding were censored. Among the blocked posts were complaints from people who said that government officials were nowhere to be seen when they needed help, and only showed up after the flood receded.
On the home page of the Chinese central government, the top article is a story from the official Xinhua News Agency.
The headline reads: “Under the strong and resolute leadership of Comrade Xi Jinping, the Central Committee of the Party commands and directs the flood control, disaster relief and emergency response efforts in Hebei Province.”
Nearly 4,990 words, the article listed many things the government had done, including the number of text alerts it had sent. It did not mention how many people died or were missing or homeless. They would be the nameless “masses” who were, of course, grateful for the government’s rescue.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/business/china-flooding-tragedy-mourning.html ?
Wait
a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic
has already been quoted oh shit.
Oh shit government can try to prevent death¡
The federal government aims to reduce the number of women killed by their intimate partners by 25 per cent each year, under a five-year plan launched by Social Services Minister Amanda Rishworth today. Twenty-five women died at the hands of current or former partners in the year to July 2021, according to the Australian Institute of Criminology.
Fuck Yeah Will Yous Look At That Economy Must Growing ¡
SCIENCE said:
Fuck Yeah Will Yous Look At That Economy Must Growing ¡
a joy it is, i’ve still got deep muscle twitching, the mild sore throats, feels like burning up with something like arthritis through my entire body, not too bad right now though, i’m not dead
started pumping self with Zn couple day ago, more than the regular dose, few other vitamins and minerals also for the placebo amplification, the good hoodoo
just a fucken virus, common cold ya know
SCIENCE said:
Fuck Yeah Will Yous Look At That Economy Must Growing ¡
Well in a piece of good news for some forumers, this means the healthy population declined.
dv said:
SCIENCE said:Fuck Yeah Will Yous Look At That Economy Must Growing ¡
Well in a piece of good news for some forumers, this means the healthy population declined.
And at a time when more and more of their doctors are emigrating.
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Fuck Yeah Will Yous Look At That Economy Must Growing ¡
a joy it is, i’ve still got deep muscle twitching, the mild sore throats, feels like burning up with something like arthritis through my entire body, not too bad right now though, i’m not dead
started pumping self with Zn couple day ago, more than the regular dose, few other vitamins and minerals also for the placebo amplification, the good hoodoo
just a fucken virus, common cold ya know
Love¡
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
Fuck Yeah Will Yous Look At That Economy Must Growing ¡
Well in a piece of good news for some forumers, this means the healthy population declined.
And at a time when more and more of their doctors are emigrating.
Decreasing Consumerism Is Good For The Earth¡ Ah SARACAIDS-CoV, Is There Any Planet It Can’t Heal¿
The Ancients, They Knew¡
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2213088/
LIFE
knowbuddygeddit
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Well in a piece of good news for some forumers, this means the healthy population declined.
And at a time when more and more of their doctors are emigrating.
Decreasing Consumerism Is Good For The Earth¡ Ah SARACAIDS-CoV, Is There Any Planet It Can’t Heal¿
I wonder if intelligenct alien life has rampant consumerism and thinks shopping it the pinnacle of it’s achievements
transition said:
SCIENCE said:Fuck Yeah Will Yous Look At That Economy Must Growing ¡
a joy it is, i’ve still got deep muscle twitching, the mild sore throats, feels like burning up with something like arthritis through my entire body, not too bad right now though, i’m not dead
started pumping self with Zn couple day ago, more than the regular dose, few other vitamins and minerals also for the placebo amplification, the good hoodoo
just a fucken virus, common cold ya know
have you had most of the variants?
SCIENCE said:
knowbuddygeddit
MURICA!!
I’ve still not had it. A couple of scares the last few days but then I remembered how offensively vernal the outernet smells, and I added regular Zyrtec to my regular phenergan.
OCDC said:
I’ve still not had it. A couple of scares the last few days but then I remembered how offensively vernal the outernet smells, and I added regular Zyrtec to my regular phenergan.
Mmm purple drank.
OCDC said:
I’ve still not had it. A couple of scares the last few days but then I remembered how offensively vernal the outernet smells, and I added regular Zyrtec to my regular phenergan.
Surely if they stinks then deading the CNI should be high on the agenda¡
poikilotherm said:
OCDC said:
I’ve still not had it. A couple of scares the last few days but then I remembered how offensively vernal the outernet smells, and I added regular Zyrtec to my regular phenergan.
Mmm purple drank.
Just Wait Until The Anticholinergic Delirium¡
OCDC said:
I’ve still not had it. A couple of scares the last few days but then I remembered how offensively vernal the outernet smells, and I added regular Zyrtec to my regular phenergan.
Mmmm…I remember Phenergan from my childhood middle ear infections. I loved the little bright blue pills.
SCIENCE said:
poikilotherm said:My anticholinergic burden is Rather High. Fortunately I got out of my presentation by being Rather Sickly.OCDC said:Just Wait Until The Anticholinergic Delirium¡I’ve still not had it. A couple of scares the last few days but then I remembered how offensively vernal the outernet smells, and I added regular Zyrtec to my regular phenergan.Mmm purple drank.
kii said:
OCDC said:Still blue :-)I’ve still not had it. A couple of scares the last few days but then I remembered how offensively vernal the outernet smells, and I added regular Zyrtec to my regular phenergan.Mmmm…I remember Phenergan from my childhood middle ear infections. I loved the little bright blue pills.
trolls
OCDC said:
kii said:OCDC said:Still blue :-)I’ve still not had it. A couple of scares the last few days but then I remembered how offensively vernal the outernet smells, and I added regular Zyrtec to my regular phenergan.Mmmm…I remember Phenergan from my childhood middle ear infections. I loved the little bright blue pills.
Nap nap with blanky. Trimmed with owl fabric from Estonia.
SCIENCE said:
trolls
idgi
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
trolls
idgi
a lame play on words
but anyway this one
should be no joke
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2808358
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
trolls
idgi
a lame play on words
but anyway this one
should be no joke
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2808358
I only get sophisticated humour like I get from boris
Still Covid-free this end.
Be a bit ironic if I catch it from the Coles home delivery worker.
Had a look at the Worldometer covid report for yesterday, for the first time for ages.
Apparently we are down to about 8,000 new cases, and 80 deaths, for the whole world, with almost all of those being in USA, Russia and Brazil.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Had a look at the Worldometer covid report for yesterday, for the first time for ages.Apparently we are down to about 8,000 new cases, and 80 deaths, for the whole world, with almost all of those being in USA, Russia and Brazil.
Bear in mind many places aren’t bothering to collect and report stats any more.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Had a look at the Worldometer covid report for yesterday, for the first time for ages.Apparently we are down to about 8,000 new cases, and 80 deaths, for the whole world, with almost all of those being in USA, Russia and Brazil.
This is largely a reporting cycle issue. Note that there have been 500000 new cases, and over 1000 deaths, reported worldwide in the past 7 days.
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:Fuck Yeah Will Yous Look At That Economy Must Growing ¡
a joy it is, i’ve still got deep muscle twitching, the mild sore throats, feels like burning up with something like arthritis through my entire body, not too bad right now though, i’m not dead
started pumping self with Zn couple day ago, more than the regular dose, few other vitamins and minerals also for the placebo amplification, the good hoodoo
just a fucken virus, common cold ya know
have you had most of the variants?
dunno, had it bad twice, first time march last year, then maybe was august bad again(can’t recall exactly), seem to have something similar in milder form many times between and after
second time bad was worse than first time
I never recovered fully from first time had it, though thought was getting close, mostly was sore calf muscles not explainable by exertion had continued
the phlegm in the lower throat was terrible second time, enough to near choke on when hooking it with a cough
other thing had second time was depressed unconscious drive to inhale after exhaling, weird feeling that is, like need make self inhale consciously
there were many months I couldn’t keep warm enough, possibly three months or more
I had terrible muscle energy fade with exertion for quite a long time
now mostly just left with muscle twitching, and a strangeness related, hard to explain, tingling sort of, it varies how noticeable
arthritis got worse, regular arthritis, but feel bit like have arthritis all through me these days
anyways I stays zen
ahahahahahaha
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-16/invasive-strep-a-cases-on-the-rise-in-queensland/102732968
ahahahahahaha
fucking LOL but yeah
ahahahahahaha
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahaha
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-16/invasive-strep-a-cases-on-the-rise-in-queensland/102732968
ahahahahahaha
fucking LOL but yeah
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https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/10/5/ofad188/7109853
this shit¡
Just realised thanks to
oh shit¡
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Just realised thanks to
oh shit¡
Sorry apparently
this is the original.
https://twitter.com/RPLerias/status/1691460742971895808
https://twitter.com/RealCheckMarker/status/1691586134562701435
Lies¡
How about a bat virus ¿
The plane exploded into a fireball on impact, with thick black smoke seen rising from the site.
“For now, I can say at least 10 people were killed in the plane crash,” said local police chief Mohamad Iqbal Ibrahim.
“Two passing motorists — one in a car and one on a motorcycle — also perished together with the eight on board the plane,” he said.
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roughbarked said:
A fire ant queen can fly up to five km full of sperm and ready to lay eggs. There’s a very real chance that they could already have crossed the border or will do so in the near future uness they are eradicated in Qld.
Good, the further the better, only dirty shithole countries like CHINA prevent infestations and infections and invasions and disease and destruction, the rest of us welcome all those as liberators with open arms and flowers on the end of rifles ¡
LOL
ahahahahahahahahaha
Fuck CHINA ¡
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Fuck CHINA ¡
Everyone knows to use the Emergency Face Shield with One-Way Valve Breathing Barrier
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Fuck CHINA ¡
Everyone knows to use the Emergency Face Shield with One-Way Valve Breathing Barrier
Fuck that too, if we need to CPR anyone we’re doing it with compression only, or with BVM if there’s one nearby.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:Sorry; I have not done my mandatory training this year therefore I am not qualified to resuscitate. BAISCIENCE said:Fuck that too, if we need to CPR anyone we’re doing it with compression only, or with BVM if there’s one nearby.Fuck CHINA ¡Everyone knows to use the Emergency Face Shield with One-Way Valve Breathing Barrier
SCIENCE said:
Fuck CHINA ¡
a global audience for a bunny resuscitation
a disease of the modern world, in which the question of why anyone really does anything gets buried in apparent good intentions widely advertised, as if purpose and intention (ought) be determined so by an intended (perhaps indeterminate) audience to which it is enthusiastically delivered
a secret dimension of instinct blindness, a territoriality where the conscience does some interesting work, if it does any at all in the specific (unabstracted) cognitive territory it tends toward and happily inhabits
whatever, I could be slightly grumpy
The Rev Dodgson will appreciate this infection.
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson will appreciate this infection.
has there ever, to this day, been a properly successful vaccine for coronaviruses, over the last fifty years or however long the professionals have been messing with coronaviruses
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson will appreciate this infection.
has there ever, to this day, been a properly successful vaccine for coronaviruses, over the last fifty years or however long the professionals have been messing with coronaviruses
LOL
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Severe COVID-19 may cause long-lasting alterations to the innate immune system, the first line of defense against pathogens, according to a small study funded by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health. These changes may help explain why the disease can damage so many different organs and why some people with long COVID have high levels of inflammation throughout the body. The findings were published online today in the journal Cell.
In the monocytes from people recovering from severe COVID-19, the changes in gene expression led the cells to pump out greater amounts of molecules called inflammatory cytokines than monocytes from people who were healthy or had non-COVID-19 illnesses. The researchers observed these changes as much as a year after the participants came down with COVID-19. Due to the small number of study participants, the scientists could not establish a direct association between the cellular and molecular changes and health outcomes.
The investigators suspected that an inflammatory cytokine called IL-6 might play role in establishing the changes in gene-expression instructions. They tested their hypothesis both in mice with COVID-19-like disease and in people with COVID-19. In these experiments, some of the subjects received antibodies at the early stage of illness that prevented IL-6 from binding to cells. During recovery, these mice and people had lower levels of altered stem cell gene-expression instructions, monocyte production and inflammatory cytokine production than subjects that didn’t receive the antibody. In addition, the lungs and brains of mice that received the antibodies had fewer monocyte-derived cells and less organ damage.
Oh wait remember how they were using tocilizumab to treat SARACAIDS-CoV-2 infection and it might have helped¿
https://www.tga.gov.au/covid-19-treatment-roche-products-pty-ltd-tocilizumab-actemra
oops
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shit.
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Good News¡ East ASIANS have found a way to prevent all SARACAIDS-CoV deaths¡
… and their rising hospitalisation peaks won’t continue to peak even higher …
SCIENCE said:
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oops
Ah
shit.
Good News¡ East ASIANS have found a way to prevent all SARACAIDS-CoV deaths¡
… and their rising hospitalisation peaks won’t continue to peak even higher …
At Least This Isn’t SARACAIDS-CoV¡
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/it-s-lunacy-b-c-nurses-told-to-call-911-when-no-er-doctors-on-shift-1.6521012
Nurses alone in the emergency department “will be able to provide comfort measures and some first aid…or phone 911 if the person presenting is in immediate medical distress.”
SCIENCE said:
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oops
Ah
shit.
it’s not all covid infections, some of it reflects the difficulty of making a vaccine for coronaviruses that would have met previous vaccine safety standards, i’ll put it that way
and further i’d add, the world has a demonic level of debt, things have evolved that way over the last decade or so
and I do mean demonic, because that is what it is
reading, some news, news of this and that, I observes the clapping encouragements for new news, that there is news, death, disease and destruction, somewhere, even everywhere, that everyone and nobody can be responsible for, even simultaneously
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-20/audience-new-covid-variant-ba-2-86-pirola-omicron/102751366
I quotes a quote from within that page, extract from the clapping encouragements variously projected, even unrecognizable, and I sees it’s nicely bolded in the source
here I go..
“…we are not expecting to witness comparable levels of severe disease and death…” I could bold it also, hang on i’ll do that, couple asterisk tight either side, has me a look now, a preview
oh yes that looks good
and while I wondered I did, involving plural neuron activity, my own activity, not so much a we, wondered if anyone is looking at the real trends of disease and death associated with covid let loose, the worldist friend, and I further wondered of that, while those of a keen interest are looking over that, might they incline people to look right over the top, past
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-20/thylacine-deextinction-abc-audience-survey-response/102583780
Apparently 68% of people surveyed want the thylacine to de extinctify
>There is a plan to edit the genome of a related species — the dunnart — to resemble the thylacine’s DNA, then use another relative as a surrogate to gestate the reincarnated baby thylacines.
Yeah, “resemble”. So “reincarnation” is not really on the cards.
LOL fuck that eh why bother to prevent deaths and extinctions when you can just reincarnate the chosen ones with billions of dollars of funding instead¿
Fuck COVID-19¡ Look what you made them do¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-21/qantas-hit-with-lawsuit-for-holding-over-1b-credits/102755916
If Only She Had Killed Them With Infectious Disease, Then She Would Be Awarded The Highest Honour Instead¡
So Where’s The Randomised Controlled Trial Showing That Shark Nets Save Lives Anyway¿ Let Them Rip¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-21/shark-nets-return-to-nsw-beaches-for-summer/102755862
Shark Nibble Is Mild And Endemic, If You Haven’t Been Bitten For A Few Years You’ll Suffer DentDebt¡
Your daily fix of one little piece of good news from us,
https://cepi.net/news_cepi/licenced-chikungunya-vaccines-are-on-the-horizon/
except nobody cares about that shit anyway, doesn’t affect Australians, only ASIANS.
Let It Rip¡
Yes.
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Yes.
Interesting description, that I have not heard before: “high pandemic”.
NPR News item about AMC’s stocks etc. and the impact on them during the “high pandemic”.
In Wuhan, doctors knew the truth. They were told to keep quiet.
By the Editorial Board
August 22, 2023 at 7:30 a.m. EDT
In the first weeks of 2020, a radiologist at Xinhua Hospital in Wuhan, China, saw looming signs of trouble. He was a native of Wuhan and had 29 years of radiology experience. His job was to take computed tomography (CT) scans, looking at patients’ lungs for signs of infection.
And infections were everywhere. “I have never seen a virus that spreads so quickly,” he told a reporter for the investigative magazine Caixin. “This growth rate is too fast, and it is too scary.”
“The CT machines in the hospital were overloaded every day,” he added. “The machines are exhausted and often crash.”
But this tableau of chaos was hidden from the Chinese people — and the world — in early 2020. Chinese authorities had acknowledged on Dec. 31, 2019, that there were 27 cases of “pneumonia of unknown origin,” and 44 confirmed cases on Jan. 3, 2020. The Wuhan health commission reported 59 cases on Jan. 5, then abruptly reduced the number to 41 on Jan. 11, and claimed there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission or any signs of doctors getting sick.
That claim was a lie. The coronavirus was running rampant. Doctors at the radiologist’s hospital, and other hospitals, were getting sick. But China’s Communist Party leaders prize social stability above all else. They fear any sign of public panic or admission that the ruling party-state is not in control. The authorities in both Wuhan and Beijing kept the situation secret, especially because annual party political meetings were being held in Wuhan, capital of Hubei province, from Jan. 6 to Jan. 17.
Secrecy has long been a major tool of the governing Communist Party. It suppresses independent journalism, censors digital news and communications, and withholds vital information from its people. Doctors in Wuhan who knew the truth were afraid to speak out. China did not reveal human transmission of the virus until Jan. 22, and by then, the global pandemic had been ignited. In 3½ years, covid-19 has taken nearly 7 million lives by official counts. The true death toll is probably twice or three times that number.
This editorial is part of a series examining the inner workings of authoritarianism around the world. Previously, we looked at how dictatorships exploit social media, at the creation of disinformation and at how autocrats share tactics. This installment examines how China’s authoritarian system handled a grave public health crisis, as seen through the eyes of doctors and other health-care professionals on the front lines who were struggling to cope with a virus no one had witnessed before. At a time when trust and transparency were needed to save lives, Chinese authorities covered up the facts and lied — and they continue to do so today.
In Wuhan, the radiologist realized the virus was jumping from person to person. On Jan. 16, he spoke privately about it with a colleague, expressing concern the disease was exploding. The colleague, in tears, replied, “Wuhan will go down in history as a result.”
The doctors are gagged
In any battle against disease, the rapid flow of information is essential. China learned this the hard way in the 2003 SARS outbreak, when state secrecy hobbled the response as 8,098 people became ill and 774 died in China and elsewhere. After that, China set up a digital system for reporting a spreading disease. The core is the National Notifiable Disease Reporting System (NNDRS), which provides online reporting of cases. Covering the entire country, it allows for an entry to be accessible at all levels, from local hospitals to the Chinese Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Beijing. Chinese officials boasted that the new system was “horizontal to the edge, vertical to the bottom,” that it would report on detected sickness within hours.
The NNDRS was largely designed to report on known diseases with an early-warning component. In particular, China was on the lookout for dangerous respiratory contagions like the first SARS, which were given a special category — PUE, for “pneumonia of unknown etiology,” or unknown origin. The CDC monitors the NNDRS reports daily. If more than five cases of PUE are found in one location, the CDC is supposed to send a special team to investigate. But by some accounts, the PUE system was plagued with false positives — cases that turned out to be something else. And for the reporting to happen, a doctor or dedicated hospital staff must fill out an electronic “report card”; a phone call or other method doesn’t suffice.
This internal reporting is separate from what the public is told. Public disclosure is controlled by the party. This power lies with health commissions at the local, provincial and national levels, and ultimately with the State Council, China’s highest-ranking body. Every major institution in China, including its hospitals, has a party overseer. In the health-care realm, China’s CDC has standing only to offer advice about an issue, not to decide what measures to take in response.
In January 2020, the system failed as the virus spread. This can be gleaned from documents and interviews conducted by Chinese journalists. They managed to capture a revelatory picture of the struggle by doctors and hospitals despite China’s strict limits on news reporting and its system of censorship. Gilles Demaneuf of the research group DRASTIC, which has been probing the origins of the virus, has compiled and translated these materials in a 193-page report he has shared with the World Health Organization’s Scientific Advisory Group for the Origins of Novel Pathogens. The report was made available to us. The findings are augmented by disclosures from U.S. Right to Know, a freedom-of-information group, and news accounts and congressional investigations in the United States.
In editorials last year, we called attention to how the virus was spreading in November and December 2019, earlier than China has admitted; how China had carried out genomic sequencing of the virus in late December 2019; and we pointed to additional cases that were not reported to a joint mission of China and the WHO. It is still not known precisely how or where the pandemic began, whether from zoonotic spillover or a laboratory leak. But by the end of December 2019, the growing caseload set off alarms in Wuhan. The genomic sequencing showed the virus was closely related to the first SARS virus, which had set off panic in China almost 20 years earlier.
China’s small clinics are often the first stop when people get sick. For additional treatment, patients proceed up a ladder of tertiary, secondary and primary hospitals. One of those at the top was Wuhan Central Hospital, a large-scale municipal facility, providing complex health care and advanced medical training and research. It has a main campus near the river on Nanjing Road and a secondary branch, known as Houhu, near the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, a huge bazaar selling seafood as well as farmed wildlife — alive and frozen — that became a superspreader venue for the new virus. Wuhan Central was a sentinel hospital for China’s CDC — to be on the lookout for infectious-disease outbreaks in central China.
Both branches had started to receive patients with the new illness, and by Dec. 30, 2019, seven patients were at the Houhu branch. Several had links to the market. Other hospitals started to see patients with coughing and other virus symptoms, too.
That afternoon, at 3:10 p.m., the Wuhan health commission — the political level — issued an “urgent notice” to health institutions to look out for PUE cases. Another notice followed at 6:50 p.m., warning “not to disclose information to the public without authorization.”
At Wuhan Central that evening, ophthalmologist Li Wenliang examined the medical report of a patient whose condition seemed strikingly like SARS. He shared it with his former medical school friends in their class WeChat group, so they could be prepared. “Seven cases of SARS confirmed,” he wrote. On Jan. 1, Li was detained by police, along with seven other doctors. He was accused of “making untrue comments” that had “severely disturbed the social order.” He was reprimanded for “this illegal activity” and signed a paper promising not to do it again.
Separately, Ai Fen, head of Wuhan Central’s emergency department, grew concerned about the infections. She alerted the hospital management that one of the patients ran a small clinic near the market and had treated many people from there, strongly suggesting human-to-human transmission was underway. She asked her staff to begin wearing N95 masks. This set off fresh alarms. The staff realized it meant transmission was underway and the virus could threaten them as well as everyone else.
On Jan. 2, she was reprimanded by Cai Li, the party boss at the hospital, who accused her of spreading rumors. The emergency department head said she was told not to send any text or WeChat messages about the virus, but to communicate about it only face-to-face with other doctors. Similar orders went out to other doctors at Wuhan Central. The masks became an urgent issue. In response to protests, hospital leaders allowed doctors in three departments — emergency, respiratory and ICU — to wear masks but ordered those in other departments, including gynecology, urology, cardiology, ophthalmology and ultrasound, not to. Many of these doctors went unprotected — and got infected.
Also on Jan. 2, a memo went out at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a major research center on coronaviruses. Employees were warned that “all testing and experimental data, results, and conclusions related to the epidemic should not be published on blogs and social media, and should not be shared with the media (including official media), or partner organizations.”
According to the radiologist at Xinhua Hospital, the reprimand to Li and the other doctors “really shocked us.” He added, “This incident played a great role in the gagging of the medical community. … Most of us dare not speak out publicly for fear of being summoned by the police.”
But he saw the reality at Xinhua Hospital, which was formally named Hubei Provincial Hospital of Integrated Traditional Chinese and Western Medicine. Starting on Jan. 5 he recalled seeing two or three images indicating infections, then more each day. Then “suddenly it showed a multiple fold increase” to 30 a day and kept doubling. By Jan. 11, he recalled, “medical staff in the unit were infected one after another.” The government had still not acknowledged human-to-human transmission, or health-care workers getting sick, but the virus was everywhere. “The hospital was full of people, and the situation was a bit chaotic,” the radiologist said.
“Our hospital’s outpatient clinic is crowded with a large number of suspected patients who can’t be admitted,” he said. “Some patients kneel down and beg the doctor to take them in.”
The public was given only a skimpy version of the facts. Days went by with no announcement of any new cases and no warnings. In Wuhan, crowds bustled at a mass banquet, and millions began to travel at the opening of the Lunar New Year celebrations.
But the highest levels of China’s government knew the truth. According to a key memo obtained by the Associated Press, on Jan. 14, the head of the National Health Commission admitted to provincial officials in a teleconference that the situation is “severe and complex, the most severe challenge since SARS in 2003.”
‘Everyone was covering their eyes’
When it was needed most, China’s disease reporting system collapsed. In part, this was because of confusion and administrative bungling. Patients who showed up at small local clinics in the first weeks were sent home or to second-tier hospitals, and these cases most likely never generated the “report card” necessary for registering in the system. Also, the high costs of hospitalization in a top-ranked facility might have discouraged many sick people from going there. Moreover, many front-line doctors had not used the disease reporting system or were wary of reporting an infection of an unknown nature. Top authorities issued conflicting criteria for what defined a new case — at first, the patient had to be linked to the Huanan market, but after many people who had not been to the market became ill, that requirement was dropped.
And there was one other major factor: In the first weeks of January 2020, high-level officials made a deliberate effort to slow-walk the reporting of cases.
The admonition not to write anything down — and to pass reports only verbally — immediately thwarted the NNDRS system, which accepted only written, electronic “report cards” that could be filed only by a doctor or other select staff in the hospital, such as the public health department. As one worker in the emergency department of Wuhan Central put it, “There is no written report, it cannot be reported, and what you say doesn’t count.”
According to the radiologist at Xinhua Hospital, authorities also limited the number of virus samples tested in Wuhan. The quantity of tests was small and the quality poor; China had neither the means nor intention at this point to test broadly. This left many people stuck in limbo as “suspected” cases, or sent home to recover, rather than admitted to hospitals. If they died, they were kept off lists of confirmed cases. Authorities also decided on Jan. 11 that records of CT scans were not to be given directly to medical staff, who would be informed only verbally of the results. This was to conceal the infections among medical staff, which the government had claimed were not occurring.
Repeatedly in hospitals, doctors were told to be “careful” and “cautious” about filing a report card for a new case. A day-to-day chronology of events at Wuhan Central from Dec. 29 to Feb. 8 was prepared by a public health doctor there. The document was obtained by Caixin and another Chinese publication, the Paper. Both said they confirmed its authenticity. The document shows a pattern of slow-walking the reporting.
The initial seven patients at Wuhan Central had been reported only by telephone, and the public health doctor was eager to file the electronic report cards. But he was instructed by political officials and higher-ups to wait. Although the cases were in the hospital in late December, they were not entered into the system until Jan. 8, according to the chronology.
But while democracies are swamped with information as well as disinformation, China’s dictatorship bottled up the truths and published lies. The party’s quest for absolute control — through fear, threats and intimidation — blocked action precisely when the virus spread might have been slowed or stopped. The decisions allowed a spark to become a wildfire, a disaster of immense proportions. As the pandemic unfolded, China remained a black box. It slammed the door on any further investigation of the origins of the virus inside China and did not publish accurate data on the pandemic death toll; doing so might have called into question the party’s competence and leadership. When Zhejiang province recently published mortality data indicating a surge of deaths after China abruptly lifted its “zero covid” policy in December 2022, indicating a higher death toll than China had acknowledged, the data was promptly deleted.
Edward Holmes, an evolutionary biologist and virologist who is a professor at the University of Sydney, exchanged messages on Slack with other virologists in March 2020, as the pandemic gained strength. Holmes, who has extensive China experience, wrote of China: “There is so much repression and deceit, it is ridiculous.” He added that the true number of cases was probably much higher than reported and said, “I’ve also heard that some of the hospitals in Wuhan are declining to test because they want to report low/no numbers.”
Dr. Holmes noted the statements that the virus would not transmit between people, and added, “Endless coverups.”
What happened in Wuhan was not a single slip-up or misjudgment. It was a result of how the system works, demanding fealty and imposing control in all directions. It was a deliberate choice to order doctors not to wear masks that could have saved lives; to slow-walk the reporting and thus impede early warning; to shut down communications with the public; and to instruct doctors not to write anything down about the spreading danger. The consequence was death and misery for the Chinese people and the rest of the world on an unimaginable scale.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/22/wuhan-doctors-pandemic-china-coverup/?
Witty Rejoinder said:
In Wuhan, doctors knew the truth. They were told to keep quiet.By the Editorial Board
August 22, 2023 at 7:30 a.m. EDT
…./cut by me myself I master transition/….
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/22/wuhan-doctors-pandemic-china-coverup/?
read that, I did, got a bit ‘interesting’ in places, the material did, ‘arranged’ as it is
and to quote from it…
“But while democracies are swamped with information as well as disinformation…”
hmmm..
i’ll let others ponder the purpose of that proposition, as put, in context
https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/bigideas/covid-zoonotic-diseases-and-the-next-pandemic/102701790
listening that, didn’t start off well
…weirdest years of our lives… assumption about shared experience, generalized, I didn’t have that experience, maybe next time
…leapt via a bat and into us…
…zoonotic disease…
…encroach on precious wildlife habitats…
people weren’t out collecting the viruses I hope, for ‘research’
anyways i’ll persist, see if I can prepare myself for the next pandemic, ignore the fact covid-19 has maimed hundreds of millions, and continues to do so, enough reason to prevent its spread
I study coronavirus in a highly secured biosafety lab – here’s why I feel safer here than in the world outside.
https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/radionational-breakfast/health-with-dr-norman-swan/102810144
had me a listen to that^, made me wonder what the effect of sequential infections are on long covid
and from statistics, data analysis, how do you deal with sequential infection with cumulative, additive, multiplying effects or whatever delaying recovery, I mean consider you’re measuring for long covid prevalence and duration as relates to infection
a person gets infected, gets long covid, then before recovery gets infected again and viral-induced injury made worse or likely to persist longer
the long covid example gets counted once, yet has been bombed twice or more times, with further protracted problems and longer recovery, if at all, ever
I guess it’s possible a new infection might reduce long covid symptoms, that would be good, if it half reliably did that, in the real world, but who knows, doubtful it does
anyway, what a wonderful thing it is that covid is everywhere and anywhere – prevalent – prevalence is a wonderful thing for heightening a sense of responsibility, helps everyone and nobody be responsible, simultaneously, call it sharing
stupid is quite prevalent also, just smart enough to not think that bit further to be honest, like a ceiling, whatever keeps the bullshit working
LOL
https://www.afr.com/politics/why-critics-don-t-faze-the-premier-who-steered-a-nation-20210413-p57iog
https://www.glamour.com/story/katalin-kariko-biontech-women-of-year-2021
It’s a fucking bloodbath with mainstream media this week.
Linsey Marr, an aerosols expert and professor of civil and environmental engineering at Virginia Tech, became convinced that advice was based on a flawed idea of how respiratory viruses spread. Her groundbreaking research and tireless advocacy showed that the virus is airborne as opposed to traveling in large droplets that fall with gravity.
https://twitter.com/7NewsSydney/status/1709447917415907502
Don’t worry if you call it heart attack or dementia or stroke instead of COVID-19 then you can make the 1st highest cause of death look more like the 3rd¡
Oh wait yous fucking knew this 3 years ago oops.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s44161-023-00336-5
LOL,
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/Pages/20231005_00.aspx
fucking
LOL¡
But woah uh sorry we
https://twitter.com/WHOWPRO/status/1709491159138243034
mean, WHO¿¡
Oh right that’s because they’re mostly dirty ASIANS.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
“… bids must be able to provide stadiums with seating capacity for 60,000 spectators for the semifinals and 80,000 for the final.
“To facilitate a selection process, FIFA would encourage a proposal of more than 14 stadiums, but no more than 20 stadiums,” the Overview of the Bidding Process document states.”
Gosh, if only we could find the money and the impetus to build schools, hospitals, and affordable housing in the way that we do with sports stadiums…
Strangely enough, sporting stadiums require people. People won’t be able to read the advertisements or be healthy enough to attend if they don’t have adequate schools and hospitals.
Yeah but that’s the thing, sports stadiums are the best, look
https://time.com/5813442/coronavirus-stadiums-hospitals/
when was the last time you saw a hospital being able to double as a football field¿
transition said:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_antigenic_sin
“Original antigenic sin, also known as antigenic imprinting, the Hoskins effect, or immunological imprinting, is the propensity of the immune system to preferentially use immunological memory based on a previous infection when a second slightly different version of that foreign pathogen (e.g. a virus or bacterium) is encountered. This leaves the immune system “trapped” by the first response it has made to each antigen, and unable to mount potentially more effective responses during subsequent infections. Antibodies or T-cells induced during infections with the first variant of the pathogen are subject to repertoire freeze, a form of original antigenic sin.The phenomenon has been described in relation to influenza virus, SARS-CoV-2, dengue fever, human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and to several other viruses…”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Dalgleish
“Angus George Dalgleish (born May 1950) FRCP FRCPath FMedSci is a professor of oncology at St George’s, University of London, best known for his contributions to HIV/AIDS research. Dalgleish stood in 2015 for Parliament as a UKIP candidate….”
¿and
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
it’s Netanyahu’s watch, really.Peak Warming Man said:
BREAKING:
“Former President Donald Trump has commented on the recent attack by Hamas on civilians in Israel, blaming the incident on the current administration and claiming that it would’ve never happened under his watch,”more to come…
That DJT’s a card, isn’t he?
We Blame Pandemic Lockdowns And School Closures ¡
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
it’s Netanyahu’s watch, really.That DJT’s a card, isn’t he?
We Blame Pandemic Lockdowns And School Closures ¡
I blame PWM for posting in the wrong bloody thread, again.
shakes fist
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:
it’s Netanyahu’s watch, really.We Blame Pandemic Lockdowns And School Closures ¡
I blame PWM for posting in the wrong bloody thread, again.
shakes fist
Nah we were just joking but anyway this pizza with eggplant and anchovies is kind of nice.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/business/covid-19-costing-the-australian-economy-billions-c-12171403
Oh Oops
COVID-19 is costing the Australian economy billions in lost worker productivity and healthcare spending. The pandemic may be moving into the endemic phase but the virus is still wreaking havoc on the health of the population and the economy. Research commissioned by pharmaceutical company MSD Australia has tallied the future economic cost of the virus and found it could land anywhere between $17 billion and $56 billion each year. The top end of the range amounts to roughly 2.2 per cent of GDP but would only come to pass if transmission rates and severity levels pick up. Under the base case modelled by the company, $25 billion in total economic costs are expected each year, with around 90 per cent of those productivity losses. This includes missed days by workers as well as parents caring for sick children or the elderly. The remaining 10 per cent is borne by the health system
SCIENCE said:
Seller’s Remorse
https://www.perthnow.com.au/business/covid-19-costing-the-australian-economy-billions-c-12171403
Oh Oops
COVID-19 is costing the Australian economy billions in lost worker productivity and healthcare spending. The pandemic may be moving into the endemic phase but the virus is still wreaking havoc on the health of the population and the economy. Research commissioned by pharmaceutical company MSD Australia has tallied the future economic cost of the virus and found it could land anywhere between $17 billion and $56 billion each year. The top end of the range amounts to roughly 2.2 per cent of GDP but would only come to pass if transmission rates and severity levels pick up. Under the base case modelled by the company, $25 billion in total economic costs are expected each year, with around 90 per cent of those productivity losses. This includes missed days by workers as well as parents caring for sick children or the elderly. The remaining 10 per cent is borne by the health system
third-last paragraph is interesting, wonder what it really means, or what truth it is representative of, or, put another way, what is the intention of the paragraph
LOL fuck you ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
SCIENCE said:
PermeateFree said:
SCIENCE said:
PermeateFree said:
sarahs mum said:
PermeateFree said:
Do you really expect the average person to be able to read all of that?
yes.
Ref?
https://www.stylemanual.gov.au/accessible-and-inclusive-content/literacy-and-access
Annoying when (hopefully) comical remarks are taken seriously.
Entertaining when serious remarks are given [fixed] (hopelessly) in jest¡
Speaking Of Ingest,
fucking LOL and almost aspirated our entire coffee.
SCIENCE said:
fucking LOL and
We mean
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/16/health/paxlovid-price-expected-to-rise/index.html
LOL absolute.
SCIENCE said:
LOL absolute.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL absolute.
Sorry Wrong Thread
Illness sweeps through Pakistan side ahead of crucial World Cup clash with Australia
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
fucking LOL and
We mean
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/16/health/paxlovid-price-expected-to-rise/index.html
LOL absolute.
ahahahahahahahahahahaha
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/18/health/pfizer-paxlovid-price/index.html
ahahahahahahaha
The list price, before insurance, will be $1,390 for a five-day course, Pfizer said in a statement. That’s 2.6 times higher than the $530-per-course price paid by the US government, which provided Paxlovid free to patients during the pandemic. The Wall Street Journal first reported the new price.
Don’t worry it’sn’t as much as the 3 to 5 times predicted, all good¡
LOL
What Does Mean Mean ¿
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/covid-infection-can-damage-brains-dogs-study-suggests
transition said:
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/covid-infection-can-damage-brains-dogs-study-suggests
Another Big Fucking Surprise Laugh Out Loud
Placing HEPA air filters into classrooms in the Bradford area of the UK reduced the number of covid-19-related absences among students by more than 20 per cent
“Using Clean Stuff Makes People Less Dirty Wow”
Communist Australian Government Overreach Again ¡
Fuck Chairman Dan And CHINA And Their Lockdowns¡
transition said:
I gargles lot strong salt mix with warm water, hitting me throat hard, works too, makes’t unfriendly environment for nasty germs, not want too many nasty germs
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-25/asbestos-coal-gold-silica-mining-and-deadly-dust/102968642
LOL
Now do some other harmful airborne type of particle¡
Who Fucking Cares, The Economy Must Grow
SCIENCE said:
Who Fucking Cares, The Economy Must Grow
All other priorities rescinded, crew expendable, all hail Weyland Yutani
Thankfully this now means
no containment at all¡
Bad News, Overpopulation Set To Worsen For Next 50 Years
https://www.science.org/content/article/first-malaria-vaccine-slashes-early-childhood-deaths
Fuck.
Imagine a vaccine so shit it has
In clinical trial results published in 2015, RTS,S showed 36.3% efficacy against clinical malaria a median of 4 years after toddlers were vaccinated.
efficacy of just 1/e, and yet even something so pissweak can save 13% death.
Evolution
And Innuendo
SCIENCE said:
Evolution
And Innuendo
Maybe erectile implants should be covered by Medicare,,,
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
Evolution
And Innuendo
Maybe erectile implants should be covered by Medicare,,,
Surely You’re J…ing, Mr Fauci!
LOL
LOL
SCIENCE said:
LOL
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Democracy And Freedom ¡
LOL
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Democracy And Freedom ¡
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-31/nsw-study-shows-rise-of-amr-in-asia-pacific/103043582
roughbarked said:
Do I still need to wear a mask and isolate? Here’s a COVID-19 key facts update
We Blame Australian Politics For Our Retardation
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Do I still need to wear a mask and isolate? Here’s a COVID-19 key facts update
We Blame Australian Politics For Our Retardation
Politics should be kept out of it.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Do I still need to wear a mask and isolate? Here’s a COVID-19 key facts update
We Blame Australian Politics For Our Retardation
Politics should be kept out of it.
Agreed. This is what happens when politicians get to direct pandemic response.
LOL everyone knows this shit is a lie, there will be no “Christmas Wave”, who the fuck even tests for this fake bioweapon anymore,
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/nsw-sydney-covid-christmas-fresh-wave/103051190
there’s no cases if there’s no test you dumbarses.
SCIENCE said:
LOL everyone knows this shit is a lie, there will be no “Christmas Wave”, who the fuck even
wait
WTF
lies, tell you what would be more effective than using RAT bullshit, for at most the same price, and better in every other way too¿
P2 or better masks full stop.
See healthcare workers are such fucking killjoys
what next, plain packaging for another favourite but legal highly addictive drug¿
Oh
wait.
SCIENCE said:
See healthcare workers are such fucking killjoys
what next, plain packaging for another favourite but legal highly addictive drug¿
Oh
wait.
Heh.
ahahahahahahahahahaha
https://www.statnews.com/2023/11/01/infant-mortality-increase/?utm_campaign=rss
The U.S. infant mortality rate rose 3% last year — the largest increase in two decades, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. White and Native American infants, infant boys and babies born at 37 weeks or earlier had significant death rate increases. The CDC’s report, published Wednesday, also noted larger increases for two of the leading causes of infant deaths — maternal complications and bacterial meningitis.
Probably caused by lockdowns, masks, and vaccinations.
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahahahahaha
brilliant
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahahahahaha
https://www.statnews.com/2023/11/01/infant-mortality-increase/?utm_campaign=rss
The U.S. infant mortality rate rose 3% last year — the largest increase in two decades, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. White and Native American infants, infant boys and babies born at 37 weeks or earlier had significant death rate increases. The CDC’s report, published Wednesday, also noted larger increases for two of the leading causes of infant deaths — maternal complications and bacterial meningitis.
Probably caused by lockdowns, masks, and vaccinations.
There seems to be a split between the Tweet and the article. One says it is the first increase in 20 years. The other says it is the biggest increase in 20 years.
The second one is right.
So who was it¿
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahahahahaha
https://www.statnews.com/2023/11/01/infant-mortality-increase/?utm_campaign=rss
The U.S. infant mortality rate rose 3% last year — the largest increase in two decades, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. White and Native American infants, infant boys and babies born at 37 weeks or earlier had significant death rate increases. The CDC’s report, published Wednesday, also noted larger increases for two of the leading causes of infant deaths — maternal complications and bacterial meningitis.
Probably caused by lockdowns, masks, and vaccinations.
There seems to be a split between the Tweet and the article. One says it is the first increase in 20 years. The other says it is the biggest increase in 20 years.
The second one is right.
From the hoarsest mouth
“https://blogs.cdc.gov/nchs/2023/11/01/7479/“https://blogs.cdc.gov/nchs/2023/11/01/7479/
A new Vital Statistics Rapid Release report from the National Center for Health Statistics shows that the provisional infant mortality rate for the United States in 2022 rose 3% from 2021, the first year-to-year increase in the rate since 2001 to 2002. From 2002 to 2021 the infant mortality rate declined 22%.
seems legit’.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahahahahaha
https://www.statnews.com/2023/11/01/infant-mortality-increase/?utm_campaign=rss
The U.S. infant mortality rate rose 3% last year — the largest increase in two decades, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. White and Native American infants, infant boys and babies born at 37 weeks or earlier had significant death rate increases. The CDC’s report, published Wednesday, also noted larger increases for two of the leading causes of infant deaths — maternal complications and bacterial meningitis.
Probably caused by lockdowns, masks, and vaccinations.
There seems to be a split between the Tweet and the article. One says it is the first increase in 20 years. The other says it is the biggest increase in 20 years.
The second one is right.
From the hoarsest mouth
“https://blogs.cdc.gov/nchs/2023/11/01/7479/“https://blogs.cdc.gov/nchs/2023/11/01/7479/
A new Vital Statistics Rapid Release report from the National Center for Health Statistics shows that the provisional infant mortality rate for the United States in 2022 rose 3% from 2021, the first year-to-year increase in the rate since 2001 to 2002. From 2002 to 2021 the infant mortality rate declined 22%.
seems legit’.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr72/nvsr72-11.pdf
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
There seems to be a split between the Tweet and the article. One says it is the first increase in 20 years. The other says it is the biggest increase in 20 years.
The second one is right.
From the hoarsest mouth
“https://blogs.cdc.gov/nchs/2023/11/01/7479/“https://blogs.cdc.gov/nchs/2023/11/01/7479/
A new Vital Statistics Rapid Release report from the National Center for Health Statistics shows that the provisional infant mortality rate for the United States in 2022 rose 3% from 2021, the first year-to-year increase in the rate since 2001 to 2002. From 2002 to 2021 the infant mortality rate declined 22%.
seems legit’.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr72/nvsr72-11.pdf
So the horses are lying to us¿
“The number of Queenslanders hospitalised for COVID-19 has more than doubled in three weeks, prompting the state’s top doctor to urge people to get booster vaccinations for the virus.
There are currently 207 Queenslanders in hospital after contracting COVID-19, which is up from 75 people three weeks ago.
Queensland’s Chief Health Officer John Gerrard said hospitalisations had been steady at around 75 patients for the past few months, but recently, the numbers have almost doubled about every two weeks.
“This seems to be happening around the country,” he said.
Dr Gerrard said the majority of people being admitted to hospital were those over the age of 65, most of whom had not had a COVID booster vaccine this year.”
See, we fucking told you that lockdowns and vaccinations worked did we not¿
crime in the state has bounced back after a lull during COVID
SARACAIDS-CoV, is there any planet it can’t heal¿
SCIENCE said:
Fuck CHINA ¡
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Fuck CHINA ¡
Child sexual abusive bats?
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Fuck CHINA ¡
Child sexual abusive bats?
Is this a slur targeted at the NT or a compliment targeted at the CC¿
Another Extremely Stable Genius
Fucking Murderous Paramedics
Lies And Disinformation
SCIENCE said:
Lies And Disinformation
Through The Looking Glass
How interesting, it turns out that when hospitals are already always full, the number of admitted patients doesn’t suddenly increase when a disaster occurs¡
Guess all that bullshit using “number of patients in hospital” bullshit was really bullshit¡
https://twitter.com/drkerrynphelps/status/1551785512612294656
https://twitter.com/juliahbanks/status/1552072535868448769
In total, 190 construction workers die by suicide every year.
At least 37 people have been killed and dozens injured after an earthquake struck western Nepal on Friday, with witnesses saying houses in the area collapsed and buildings as far as New Delhi, India, shook.
New Discovery
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Apparently they mean 7.8% of outpatient patients but who knows.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Apparently they mean 7.8% of outpatient patients but who knows.
It says “% of population” but it’s a bit hard to read.
But either way, it seems there was a huge jump in the number of these cases at the start of covid, and that is continuing.
So I guess that is worth a LOL, in the SCIENCE sense of the term.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Apparently they mean 7.8% of outpatient patients but who knows.
It says “% of population” but it’s a bit hard to read.
But either way, it seems there was a huge jump in the number of these cases at the start of covid, and that is continuing.
So I guess that is worth a LOL, in the SCIENCE sense of the term.
It’s a mystery¡
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
Apparently they mean 7.8% of outpatient patients but who knows.
It says “% of population” but it’s a bit hard to read.
But either way, it seems there was a huge jump in the number of these cases at the start of covid, and that is continuing.
So I guess that is worth a LOL, in the SCIENCE sense of the term.
It’s a mystery¡
It’s communism authoritarianism government overreach CHINA genius¡
Why not remove preventative measures, to let disease spread, to require preventative measures¿
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
It says “% of population” but it’s a bit hard to read.
But either way, it seems there was a huge jump in the number of these cases at the start of covid, and that is continuing.
So I guess that is worth a LOL, in the SCIENCE sense of the term.
It’s a mystery¡
It’s
communismauthoritarianismgovernment overreachCHINAgenius¡Why not remove preventative measures, to let disease spread, to require preventative measures¿
Could Spreading An Infectious Disease Cause Political Disruption And Even Instability ¿
Of Course Not ¡ Thank Fuck For Remote Work And Telecommunications ¡
SCIENCE said:
Thank Fuck
Actually, maybe not.
LOL
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:Thank Fuck
Actually, maybe not.
Gonorrhea, the second most common STI in the U.S., has developed resistance to all antibiotics used to treat it, except for one last recommended therapy.
LOL
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
Evolution
And Innuendo
Maybe erectile implants should be covered by Medicare,,,
Surely You’re J…ing, Mr Fauci!
Thank Fuck
Actually, maybe not.
Gonorrhea, the second most common STI in the U.S., has developed resistance to all antibiotics used to treat it, except for one last recommended therapy.
LOL
Good News ¡
Even If You Can’t Stand On Your Head, At Least You Can Be Bald As A Sign Of Hyper Masculinity
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Thank Fuck
Actually, maybe not.
Gonorrhea, the second most common STI in the U.S., has developed resistance to all antibiotics used to treat it, except for one last recommended therapy.
LOL
A dickectomy?
Ha but apparently legit’
… resistance to all antibiotics used to treat it, except for the recommended combined therapy of an injection of the antibiotic ceftriaxone with one dose of azithromycin pills. In recent years, ominous reports have suggested that this antibiotic arsenal might not maintain its robust effectiveness
… results from a late-stage clinical trial of a new antibiotic called zoliflodacin showed the drug cured so-called uncomplicated gonorrhea infections as effectively as ceftriaxone and azithromycin. The drug was developed by the Global Antibiotic Research & Development Partnership, a Swiss nonprofit, and the U.S.-based Innoviva Specialty Therapeutics.
The nonprofit part good, not so sure about US-based bug farmers.
https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2023/november/elizabeth-finkel/little-theory-went-market
Boris said:
https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2023/november/elizabeth-finkel/little-theory-went-market
Thanks though we don’t hold a solid position one way or another; also as yousall know we would suggest that if the rest of the world hadn’t fucked it up big time then there would have been a much better chance of getting to the bottom of it.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
The North West Regional Hospital (NWRH) in Tasmania has restricted visitation due to a COVID-19 outbreak on the medical ward. The Department of Health has confirmed that 10 patients are associated with the NWRH outbreak.
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
LOL probably wrong, probably trying to make it look like the fall in the 3rd year isn’t even bigger than the previous 2 oh wait;
LOL fuck we don’t know much about anything but when
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-08/a-history-of-intelligence-failures/103063034
you have a fucking pandemic burning on for years when it was obvious within weeks what needed to be done then
In the year before the attacks, he says the FBI received warnings about people from the Middle East who were taking flight training in the US and that were acting suspiciously. But he says this information was “not taken seriously” at FBI headquarters. “It’s hard to believe now, in retrospect.”
you can diarrhoea all you like about intelligence failure, you already know how it’s going to go, forget about suspicious information taken seriously. Fuck, the information is literally snacking you in the face, and nobody takes it seriously.
Sometimes intelligence loses out to political or ideological aims of the day.
Oh is that what it is¿ Damn this is our surprised face phase faeces ah shit.
SCIENCE said:
LOL fuck we don’t know much about anything but when
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-08/a-history-of-intelligence-failures/103063034
you have a fucking pandemic burning on for years when it was obvious within weeks what needed to be done then
In the year before the attacks, he says the FBI received warnings about people from the Middle East who were taking flight training in the US and that were acting suspiciously. But he says this information was “not taken seriously” at FBI headquarters. “It’s hard to believe now, in retrospect.”
you can diarrhoea all you like about intelligence failure, you already know how it’s going to go, forget about suspicious information taken seriously. Fuck, the information is literally snacking you in the face, and nobody takes it seriously.
Sometimes intelligence loses out to political or ideological aims of the day.
Oh is that what it is¿ Damn this is our surprised
facephasefaeces ah shit.
I have told this story before, but I was in Colorado when the 9/11 event occurred. Just days earlier I was touring the Air force base they have there. As my host and I approached in the car, we were stopped, I had my ID checked and the dude searched through the car and used a mirror on the end of a pole to look under the car. Then we were allowed to enter the museum part, but were restricted to go to any other part. My host said how unusual it was, they had been there many times and this is the first time this had happened. The guy said “yeah we are in code (whatever) so have some restrictions at the moment.” SO yeah, they knew something. However, that place was exactly the traditional attack zone one would expect. Pre 9/11 military bases were the target and airplanes that were hijacked generally did not get flown into buildings. So sure, they knew something was afoot, it probably wasn’t the first time they were on such an alert.. but planes being flown into civilian buildings? seems like a stretch up until then.
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Oh what’s this
Triple-0 calls will not work from an Optus landline.
oh shit ¡
Victorian Health Minister Mary-Anne Thomas says the state’s hospitals are coping amid the Optus outage which has affected some health services.“Our hospitals now have systems in place to manage this outage and of course patient care remains the number one priority,” she says.
However, she says Victorians expect better from Optus.
“We at least expect to be told what’s going on,” she says.
“Obviously in health care, we’ve got a very warm day, and we’re in the midst of asthma season.
“People need to know that they can access emergency triple-0 when they need to.”
LOL
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Oh what’s this
oh shit ¡
LOL
https://people.com/tuberculosis-outbreak-california-casino-bay-area-testing-8387803
A tuberculosis outbreak linked to a casino has been reported in California, according to public health officials. In a press release, the Contra Costa Health Dept. is recommending a tuberculosis test for anyone who spent time at the California Grand Casino in Pacheco, Calif., since 2018. The announcement comes after 11 individuals, including casino staff and customers, tested positive for the illness. According to the Centers for Disease Control, tuberculosis spreads through the air from one person to another. When a person breathes in TB bacteria, the bacteria can settle in the lungs and begin to grow. From there, the bacteria can move through the blood to other parts of the body, such as the kidney, spine, and brain. Symptoms of TB include a cough that lasts for 3 weeks or longer, chest pain and and coughing up blood.
As some genius here once said, roll the numbered cube, or die¡ Sorry they should have said “and“¡
Seven and a half million new infections were diagnosed in 2022 – the highest ever recorded by the UN agency
Must have been school closures and lockdowns and computer games¡
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL fuck we don’t know much about anything but when
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-08/a-history-of-intelligence-failures/103063034
you have a fucking pandemic burning on for years when it was obvious within weeks what needed to be done then
In the year before the attacks, he says the FBI received warnings about people from the Middle East who were taking flight training in the US and that were acting suspiciously. But he says this information was “not taken seriously” at FBI headquarters. “It’s hard to believe now, in retrospect.”
you can diarrhoea all you like about intelligence failure, you already know how it’s going to go, forget about suspicious information taken seriously. Fuck, the information is literally snacking you in the face, and nobody takes it seriously.
Sometimes intelligence loses out to political or ideological aims of the day.
Oh is that what it is¿ Damn this is our surprised
facephasefaeces ah shit.
I have told this story before, but I was in Colorado when the 9/11 event occurred. Just days earlier I was touring the Air force base they have there. As my host and I approached in the car, we were stopped, I had my ID checked and the dude searched through the car and used a mirror on the end of a pole to look under the car. Then we were allowed to enter the museum part, but were restricted to go to any other part. My host said how unusual it was, they had been there many times and this is the first time this had happened. The guy said “yeah we are in code (whatever) so have some restrictions at the moment.” SO yeah, they knew something. However, that place was exactly the traditional attack zone one would expect. Pre 9/11 military bases were the target and airplanes that were hijacked generally did not get flown into buildings. So sure, they knew something was afoot, it probably wasn’t the first time they were on such an alert.. but planes being flown into civilian buildings? seems like a stretch up until then.
Agreed, hindsight isn’t foresight hence we found it a bit smug to say “intelligence failures” for how clandestine activity should have been detected and dispersed when 2/3 of the world couldn’t even deal with a deadly infectious disease (allegedly a bioweapon LOL) in plain sight.
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
LOLWTF
A government committee has recommended that Medicare only contribute to someone’s first appointment with a specialist doctor when it is conducted face-to-face.
Why¿
To increase the risk of transmission
You’re right, we’ll put it in the correct ignore thread, consider us chastened*, we agree also that the recommendation is to decrease the likelihood of transmissions.
*: we hadn’t read it yet but now we have
They had this to say.
The MRAC agreed that continuity of care and consistency in policy was important to implement across the broad range of MBS telehealth items. The MRAC noted that, currently, initial non-GP specialist consultations could be claimed via face-to-face or video consultation; however, the MRAC noted that this was inconsistent with GP requirements, which must fulfil the 1-in-12 rule. Therefore, the MRAC considered it appropriate to align the telehealth requirements across these non-GP specialist and other specialist groups. The MRAC discussed the appropriateness of re-instating MBS item 116 for telephone consultations, and how the recent removal of this has negatively impacted some specialist services. The MRAC noted that many specialists are instead claiming MBS item 119 in place of item 116, as this item is available for telephone consultations, and some specialists are not billing for a follow-up telephone consultation at all. The MRAC considered that there are instances where clinicians could provide safe and effective care via telephone – for example, immediately after a face-to-face consultation, where patients may have travelled long distances for that initial consultation. The requirement for an established clinical relationship for most GP telehealth consultations, but not currently required for other non-referred consultations, such as from nurse practitioners, was identified as an inconsistency. In recommending that the same eligibility requirements extend across non-referred attendances, MRAC suggested consideration also be given to new nurse practitioner MBS items that recognised
Ah well at least they admit that it’sn’t evidence-based.
The MRAC noted the very limited availability and diversity of high-quality evidence comparing telehealth modalities and comparing telehealth to face-to-face consultations; further research is therefore needed. Further, most studies to date focus on immediate or short-term clinical aspects of care, with little research into patient views on telehealth services. The MRAC considered the available evidence while deliberating, but acknowledged that the gaps in evidence made it challenging to make strong, evidence-based recommendations. The MRAC noted that during deliberations research reports from Bond University and ANU were yet to be finalised.
Not happening: admitting that it’s being recommended because when something is done poorly for one group, it would be seen as unfair to do better for another group¡
Remember when some genius said that using culture as a justification for stuff is in general that much bullshit¿
WTF?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-08/covid-inquiry-hears-boris-johnson-volunteered-covid-injection/103078218
Michael V said:
WTF?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-08/covid-inquiry-hears-boris-johnson-volunteered-covid-injection/103078218
Sick puppy.
There yous go¡ We fucking told yous but y’sall just got pissed off so be thankful it’s
just a drop of 0.1 years for now
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
¡
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
The trolley is likely to be derailed by the first lot, so just stand back.
If it attempts to take that bend it will roll over & squish all the first lot and some of the other lot.
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
The trolley is likely to be derailed by the first lot, so just stand back.
If it attempts to take that bend it will roll over & squish all the first lot and some of the other lot.
I just now had them in hot water and detergent for 15 minutes. Does that qualify?
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:
If it attempts to take that bend it will roll over & squish all the first lot and some of the other lot.
I just now had them in hot water and detergent for 15 minutes. Does that qualify?
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/wash-hands-of
Fucking Groundbreaking Stuff ¡ Virus Damage Theory ¡
No fucking way¡
SCIENCE said:
Fucking Groundbreaking Stuff ¡ Virus Damage Theory ¡
Forskningssjef om corona-senfølger: – En teori er at viruset har skadd et eller annet i kroppen
No fucking way¡
all a bit profundity, sort of thing ya great great great grandma might have dared venture a notion about based on folk wisdom, before mass media replaced good sense with common sense, before KFC derrr
transition said:
replaced good sense with common sense
ahahahahahahahaha
From November to April, the chickens have their blood tested monthly to check for antibodies from viruses like Japanese encephalitis.
Who cares about a 1% symptom disease, WTF are we(0,0,1), cowards¿
Sorry we meant poulterers, not cowherds.
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
replaced good sense with common sense
ahahahahahahahaha
From November to April, the chickens have their blood tested monthly to check for antibodies from viruses like Japanese encephalitis.
Who cares about a 1% symptom disease, WTF are we(0,0,1), cowards¿
Sorry we meant poulterers, not cowherds.
That last got a smile.
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
replaced good sense with common sense
ahahahahahahahaha
From November to April, the chickens have their blood tested monthly to check for antibodies from viruses like Japanese encephalitis.
Who cares about a 1% symptom disease, WTF are we(0,0,1), cowards¿
Sorry we meant poulterers, not cowherds.
Back from the doctor. We’ve both had the latest COVID booster this morning. Moderna bivalent.
Michael V said:
Back from the doctor. We’ve both had the latest COVID booster this morning. Moderna bivalent.
how many does that make?
Arts said:
Michael V said:
Back from the doctor. We’ve both had the latest COVID booster this morning. Moderna bivalent.
how many does that make?
At least five.
Arts said:
Michael V said:
Back from the doctor. We’ve both had the latest COVID booster this morning. Moderna bivalent.
how many does that make?
I can’t remember. Possibly six.
Michael V said:
Arts said:
Michael V said:
Back from the doctor. We’ve both had the latest COVID booster this morning. Moderna bivalent.
how many does that make?
I can’t remember. Possibly six.
I’m probably due for my sixth. The Moderna bivalent was my fifth.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:how many does that make?
I can’t remember. Possibly six.
I’m probably due for my sixth. The Moderna bivalent was my fifth.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:I can’t remember. Possibly six.
I’m probably due for my sixth. The Moderna bivalent was my fifth.
Very similar story.
Had my booster so it’s 2xAstra, 2xPfizer, 2x antivirals & today 1x Moderna.
Well done. I’ll ask the GP about further boosters when I next see them.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:I can’t remember. Possibly six.
I’m probably due for my sixth. The Moderna bivalent was my fifth.
Very similar story.
Had my booster so it’s 2xAstra, 2xPfizer, 2x antivirals & today 1x Moderna.
Yeah. I also got the flu jab the JEV jab, the shingles doo dah and quite a bit of cortisone. Next I’m due again for pneumonia shot.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:I’m probably due for my sixth. The Moderna bivalent was my fifth.
Very similar story.
Had my booster so it’s 2xAstra, 2xPfizer, 2x antivirals & today 1x Moderna.
Well done. I’ll ask the GP about further boosters when I next see them.
I see more shop assistants wearing masks and Mrs rb said she spent quite a bit of close contact with a staff associate and now she learns that said associate is infirm with Covid.
This on top of a shigella outbrreak.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:I’m probably due for my sixth. The Moderna bivalent was my fifth.
Very similar story.
Had my booster so it’s 2xAstra, 2xPfizer, 2x antivirals & today 1x Moderna.
Well done. I’ll ask the GP about further boosters when I next see them.
Every six months.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:Very similar story.
Had my booster so it’s 2xAstra, 2xPfizer, 2x antivirals & today 1x Moderna.
Well done. I’ll ask the GP about further boosters when I next see them.
Every six months.
For the aged. ;)
Had nunmber 6 last week.
Ian said:
Had nunmber 6 last week.
I must be due then.
LOL
Results The mean age of the COVID-19 group was 56.04±6.6 years, while that of the control group was 58.1±7.3 years. Longitudinal models indicated a significant decline in cognitive throughput ((β=-0.168, P=.001) following COVID-19, after adjustment for pre-COVID-19 functioning, demographics, and medical factors. The effect sizes were large; the observed changes in throughput were equivalent to 10.6 years of normal aging and a 59.8% increase in the burden of mild cognitive impairment. Cognitive decline worsened with coronavirus disease 2019 severity and was concentrated in participants reporting post-acute sequelae of SARS-CoV-2.
Thankfully, it probably won’t pass peer review¡
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.11.06.23298101v1
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Results The mean age of the COVID-19 group was 56.04±6.6 years, while that of the control group was 58.1±7.3 years. Longitudinal models indicated a significant decline in cognitive throughput ((β=-0.168, P=.001) following COVID-19, after adjustment for pre-COVID-19 functioning, demographics, and medical factors. The effect sizes were large; the observed changes in throughput were equivalent to 10.6 years of normal aging and a 59.8% increase in the burden of mild cognitive impairment. Cognitive decline worsened with coronavirus disease 2019 severity and was concentrated in participants reporting post-acute sequelae of SARS-CoV-2.
Thankfully, it probably won’t pass peer review¡
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.11.06.23298101v1
what’s a bit of bwian damage crosseyes flickering eyelids between honest worldist fwends
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
Results The mean age of the COVID-19 group was 56.04±6.6 years, while that of the control group was 58.1±7.3 years. Longitudinal models indicated a significant decline in cognitive throughput ((β=-0.168, P=.001) following COVID-19, after adjustment for pre-COVID-19 functioning, demographics, and medical factors. The effect sizes were large; the observed changes in throughput were equivalent to 10.6 years of normal aging and a 59.8% increase in the burden of mild cognitive impairment. Cognitive decline worsened with coronavirus disease 2019 severity and was concentrated in participants reporting post-acute sequelae of SARS-CoV-2.
Thankfully, it probably won’t pass peer review¡
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.11.06.23298101v1
what’s a bit of bwian damage crosseyes flickering eyelids between honest worldist fwends
Sorry our brain power remains the same regardless of how many percentage points it falls each time¡ But what if it’s not infinite, you say¿
Wait…
Feeling pretty dodgy today, 26 hours after vaccination. Extremely sore arm and somewhat swollen around the injection site and shivering, shaking and feeling very cold. I’ve put my cardigan back on.
Michael V said:
Feeling pretty dodgy today, 26 hours after vaccination. Extremely sore arm and somewhat swollen around the injection site and shivering, shaking and feeling very cold. I’ve put my cardigan back on.
I told the nurse none of the others had caused me any trouble. She looked down her nose at me and said “take panadol for the pain”. I assumed by the look that the bivalent would cause me hurt and it did. I found her advice about panadol to be correct.
Speaking of vaccination, needles, injection, ahahahahahahaha
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/chikungunya/fda-approves-first-chikungunya-vaccine
oh wait that’s actually good news
The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) yesterday announced that it has approved Valneva’s chikungunya vaccine, the first vaccine of its kind against the mosquito-borne disease.
The live attenuated vaccine is given as a single dose, and the vaccine effects can be similar to chikungunya illness symptoms. The FDA is requiring the company to do a postmarketing study to evaluate the risk of severe reactions following Ixchinq immunization. The prescribing information contains a warning that it’s not known if the vaccine virus can transmit or cause any adverse effects in newborns.
Valneva, in a statement today, said the accelerated approval is based on neutralizing antibody titers and that continued approval hinges on studies that confirm a clinical benefit. Its phase 3 study found a 98.9% seroresponse rate at 28 days that was sustained at 96.3% 6 months after vaccination. It said it plans to commercialize the vaccine in early 2024 and is working toward a vote by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s vaccine advisory group in February 2024.
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SCIENCE said:
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ahahahahahahaha
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2811653
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
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ahahahahahahaha
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
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ahahahahahahaha
reads that, what a joy, wish was on that boat, anyways heading for SA get me some extra covid and shits bug same time, early christmas
transition said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahaha
reads that, what a joy, wish was on that boat, anyways heading for SA get me some extra covid and shits bug same time, early christmas
Glutton for punishment?
Did someone say every 3 to 6 months¿
Excellent News For Democracy Andor STEMocracy ¡
Excellent News ¡ Hybrid Immunity Enhances Reinfection ¡
https://www.standard.net.au/story/8421231/covid-19-antiviral-medication-shortage-hits-warrnambool/
SCIENCE said:
Yous Have All The Tools ¡
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-15/covid-19-cases-in-western-australia-on-the-rise/103097934
Anyway who daphqu are all these so-called “experts“¿ Shouldn’t Your ABC be still relying on the same old arseholes who got it wrong for 3 years running¿
Oh wait, doesn’t matter, they’re still failing, good ¡
The Health Department also continues to encourage handwashing and voluntary mask-wearing in certain settings. Dr Robertson said at this stage there were no plans to introduce mandatory restrictions or mask wearing for the community.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Yous Have All The Tools ¡
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-15/covid-19-cases-in-western-australia-on-the-rise/103097934
Anyway who daphqu are all these so-called “experts“¿ Shouldn’t Your ABC be still relying on the same old arseholes who got it wrong for 3 years running¿
Oh wait, doesn’t matter, they’re still failing, good ¡
The Health Department also continues to encourage handwashing and voluntary mask-wearing in certain settings. Dr Robertson said at this stage there were no plans to introduce mandatory restrictions or mask wearing for the community.
We’re all gunna die!!!! Again!!
Woodie said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
Yous Have All The Tools ¡
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-15/covid-19-cases-in-western-australia-on-the-rise/103097934
Anyway who daphqu are all these so-called “experts“¿ Shouldn’t Your ABC be still relying on the same old arseholes who got it wrong for 3 years running¿
Oh wait, doesn’t matter, they’re still failing, good ¡
The Health Department also continues to encourage handwashing and voluntary mask-wearing in certain settings. Dr Robertson said at this stage there were no plans to introduce mandatory restrictions or mask wearing for the community.
We’re all gunna die!!!! Again!!
How many times have you died thus far?
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
SCIENCE said:LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-15/covid-19-cases-in-western-australia-on-the-rise/103097934
Anyway who daphqu are all these so-called “experts“¿ Shouldn’t Your ABC be still relying on the same old arseholes who got it wrong for 3 years running¿
Oh wait, doesn’t matter, they’re still failing, good ¡
The Health Department also continues to encourage handwashing and voluntary mask-wearing in certain settings. Dr Robertson said at this stage there were no plans to introduce mandatory restrictions or mask wearing for the community.
We’re all gunna die!!!! Again!!
How many times have you died thus far?
Eleventy seven and a half. Seasonally adjusted.
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:We’re all gunna die!!!! Again!!
How many times have you died thus far?
Eleventy seven and a half. Seasonally adjusted.
So you are a pro.
Woodie said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
Yous Have All The Tools ¡
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-15/covid-19-cases-in-western-australia-on-the-rise/103097934
Anyway who daphqu are all these so-called “experts“¿ Shouldn’t Your ABC be still relying on the same old arseholes who got it wrong for 3 years running¿
Oh wait, doesn’t matter, they’re still failing, good ¡
The Health Department also continues to encourage handwashing and voluntary mask-wearing in certain settings. Dr Robertson said at this stage there were no plans to introduce mandatory restrictions or mask wearing for the community.
We’re all gunna die!!!! Again!!
I’m not. I’m going to live forever, or die in the attempt.
btm said:
Woodie said:
SCIENCE said:LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-15/covid-19-cases-in-western-australia-on-the-rise/103097934
Anyway who daphqu are all these so-called “experts“¿ Shouldn’t Your ABC be still relying on the same old arseholes who got it wrong for 3 years running¿
Oh wait, doesn’t matter, they’re still failing, good ¡
The Health Department also continues to encourage handwashing and voluntary mask-wearing in certain settings. Dr Robertson said at this stage there were no plans to introduce mandatory restrictions or mask wearing for the community.
We’re all gunna die!!!! Again!!
I’m not. I’m going to live forever, or die in the attempt.
Me too. :)
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:How many times have you died thus far?
Eleventy seven and a half. Seasonally adjusted.
So you are a pro.
By Royal Appointment, actually. Her Maj was very appreciative of my counsel.
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:Eleventy seven and a half. Seasonally adjusted.
So you are a pro.
By Royal Appointment, actually. Her Maj was very appreciative of my counsel.
But she only died the once.
roughbarked said:
btm said:
Woodie said:We’re all gunna die!!!! Again!!
I’m not. I’m going to live forever, or die in the attempt.
Me too. :)
anyways reading that page linked above… get to this…‘often we can’t really predict the peak until after we’ve crested…’…I thinks fuck me that’s staggeringly profound, all helps nicely with required normalization of necessary functional indifference, to make an insanity work, if you could contemplate the scope of the reality secretly normalized after the good work of normalizing was done, if you weren’t so satisfactorily immersed in it, a willing participant
transition said:
roughbarked said:
btm said:I’m not. I’m going to live forever, or die in the attempt.
Me too. :)
anyways reading that page linked above… get to this…‘often we can’t really predict the peak until after we’ve crested…’…I thinks fuck me that’s staggeringly profound, all helps nicely with required normalization of necessary functional indifference, to make an insanity work, if you could contemplate the scope of the reality secretly normalized after the good work of normalizing was done, if you weren’t so satisfactorily immersed in it, a willing participant
Lack of positive action.
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:So you are a pro.
By Royal Appointment, actually. Her Maj was very appreciative of my counsel.
But she only died the once.
That’s what you may think. I couldn’t possibly comment.
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:By Royal Appointment, actually. Her Maj was very appreciative of my counsel.
But she only died the once.
That’s what you may think. I couldn’t possibly comment.
Has Charlie not given you the nod yet?
roughbarked said:
transition said:
roughbarked said:
Me too. :)
anyways reading that page linked above… get to this…‘often we can’t really predict the peak until after we’ve crested…’…I thinks fuck me that’s staggeringly profound, all helps nicely with required normalization of necessary functional indifference, to make an insanity work, if you could contemplate the scope of the reality secretly normalized after the good work of normalizing was done, if you weren’t so satisfactorily immersed in it, a willing participant
Lack of positive action.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:
anyways reading that page linked above… get to this…‘often we can’t really predict the peak until after we’ve crested…’…I thinks fuck me that’s staggeringly profound, all helps nicely with required normalization of necessary functional indifference, to make an insanity work, if you could contemplate the scope of the reality secretly normalized after the good work of normalizing was done, if you weren’t so satisfactorily immersed in it, a willing participant
Lack of positive action.
QLD Doctors Are Communists ¡
It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Right Honorable Minister must lead the community in such matters by telling that woman to put her mask on properly!!
Morir por la Evolución¡
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2811338
Woodie said:
SCIENCE said:roughbarked said:
Lack of positive action.
QLD Doctors Are Communists ¡
It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Right Honorable Minister must lead the community in such matters by telling that woman to put her mask on properly!!
Saw a bloke in Coles last week with a mask on. The are not mandatory, or even recommended now but he was wearing it anyway.
Below his nose.
Woodie said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Lack of positive action.
QLD Doctors Are Communists ¡
It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Right Honorable Minister must lead the community in such matters by telling that woman to put her mask on properly!!
Fun Times ¡
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2095927323006837
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-15/covid-19-cases-in-western-australia-on-the-rise/103097934
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-15/covid-19-cases-in-western-australia-on-the-rise/103097934
Mrs rb is telling me not to go to town unless absolutely necessary. Wear a mask. RATs are out of stock at the chemists. The townspeople have become lackadaisical and they are sending their sick kids to school. Covid is rampant again.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
townspeople have become lackadaisical and they are sending their sick kids to school. Covid is rampanthttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-15/covid-19-cases-in-western-australia-on-the-rise/103097934
Surely it’s compulsory…
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
townspeople have become lackadaisical and they are sending their sick kids to school. Covid is rampanthttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-15/covid-19-cases-in-western-australia-on-the-rise/103097934
Surely it’s compulsory…
ahahahahahahahaha
Oh C’m‘on Everyone Knows That Hope Is More Powerful Than Thoughts Or Even Prayers ¡
From Monday, all staff and patients in high-risk hospital clinical areas must wear masks.
WA Premier Roger Cook said the decision was made after a noticeable increase in COVID-19 cases in the community.
“As a result there has been a rise in COVID hospitalisations and health staff off sick,” he said in a message posted to his social media pages.
“We need to do what we can to make sure we’re keeping each other safe — especially our most vulnerable.”
Masks will need to be worn around vulnerable patients in wards such as haematology, oncology, organ transplant and renal dialysis.
Mr Cook said mask wearing was also recommended for all healthcare facility staff and visitors in all clinical areas.
Nice¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-17/world-health-organization-report-rise-in-measles/103119292
Shrug May As Well Just Live With It Shrug
SCIENCE said:
Shrug May As Well Just Live With It Shrug
Weed Wide Web, lol.
LOL
Someone Who Knows Something
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-21/covid-surging-australia-should-i-wear-a-mask/103126620
And Someone Who Doesn’t
Apparently SARACAIDS-CoV Is Bad ¡
But Wait What Medium Is Claiming This ¿
Oh Shit
Must Be False ¡
The Fun Never Ends ¡
SCIENCE said:
Apparently SARACAIDS-CoV Is Bad ¡
But Wait What Medium Is Claiming This ¿
Oh Shit
Must Be False ¡
didn’t read it all, but 7/10 for effort at dressing it up like an allergy
covid helps you reject your own brain
roughbarked said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Apparently SARACAIDS-CoV Is Bad ¡
But Wait What Medium Is Claiming This ¿
Oh Shit
Must Be False ¡
didn’t read it all, but 7/10 for effort at dressing it up like an allergy
covid helps you reject your own brain
Let It RRRRRRRip®¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-22/covid-long-term-disease-parkinsons-alzheimers-risk/103112864
Our favourite bit
Without this research we must wait for the disease to emerge in human populations over time. Until then, the true cost of COVID-19 remains to be calculated.
we must wait¡ Who needs to prevent when we can investigate transmitted disease¡
Get Your Socialised Healthcare’s Worth
¡
Covid Waves are still happening.
Waves to everyone.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-22/covid-long-term-disease-parkinsons-alzheimers-risk/103112864
Tau.Neutrino said:
Covid Waves are still happening.
Waves to everyone.
But Students Suffer Learning And Economic Must Grow Loss If They Don’t Attend School In Person ¡
oh fuck
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:
didn’t read it all, but 7/10 for effort at dressing it up like an allergy
covid helps you reject your own brain
Let It RRRRRRRip®¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-22/covid-long-term-disease-parkinsons-alzheimers-risk/103112864
Our favourite bit
Without this research we must wait for the disease to emerge in human populations over time. Until then, the true cost of COVID-19 remains to be calculated.
we must wait¡ Who needs to prevent when we can investigate transmitted disease¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-22/covid-long-term-disease-parkinsons-alzheimers-risk/103112864
Guess a good mask really can prevent masked facies ¡
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Let It RRRRRRRip®¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-22/covid-long-term-disease-parkinsons-alzheimers-risk/103112864
Our favourite bit
Without this research we must wait for the disease to emerge in human populations over time. Until then, the true cost of COVID-19 remains to be calculated.
we must wait¡ Who needs to prevent when we can investigate transmitted disease¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-22/covid-long-term-disease-parkinsons-alzheimers-risk/103112864
Guess a good mask really can prevent masked facies ¡
more bullshit normalization, they, the normalizers can go fuck themselves
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-22/covid-long-term-disease-parkinsons-alzheimers-risk/103112864
Guess a good mask really can prevent masked facies ¡
more bullshit normalization, they, the normalizers can go fuck themselves
Raising interest rates should fix this¡
Between June and July this year, patients waited upwards of nearly 10 hours at Ipswich Hospital to be allocated an emergency bed. Further south at Logan Hospital, wait times blew out to over eight hours in June, July and in September. Brisbane’s Mater Hospital, Redlands Hospital and the Queen Elizabeth Hospital also recorded lengthy wait times between May and September. Meanwhile, the median time it took to transfer patients off a stretcher across the state in September was 26 minutes.
Health Minister Shannon Fentiman said those lengthy wait times were “not acceptable” and the government was doing “everything” it could to tackle ambulance ramping.
No they’re not. Just get people masking, and we guarantee that within 2 months you will have an attributable decrease in illness slash healthcare demand.
LOL
Sorry we weren’t there at the time, can’t confirm or refute the claims.
¿ What ? The ¿ Fuck ?
“Are Public Health Orders Legal ¿”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-23/mackay-man-matthew-dillon-rare-post-covid-19-myelitis-case/103102700
It’s Only Taken 3 Years To Find Serious And Actual Experts And Give Them A Platform
‘Immunity debt’ is a misguided and dangerous concept
https://www.ft.com/content/0640004d-cc15-481e-90ce-572328305798
LOL
no worries
Getting Close To Gerrards Lookout
SCIENCE said:
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-26/covid-19-nt-cases-spike-vulnerable-population/103146462
reading that crosseyed strained expression
“…experts say the actual case numbers are likely to be significantly higher than reported figures…”
yeah I think that’s how it was let go and everyone came to agree it was uncontainable, but as you were, i’ll keep reading, see what damage I can do to my brian, my poor brian, see what insults a broadcaster has today, the normal delivered, if brian had its own thoughts
Junk. Everyone knows
that the correct response, the best economic response, the only possible response, is to Let It Rip® and Live With It® so farmers can just sit down and shut up¡
What the fuck¿
We thought The Economy Must Grow, how can that happen if people stop spending¿
monkey skipper said:
*Swine flu has morphed and it is in the UK**
A new strain of swine flu has been recorded in a patient in Britain for the first time, health officials have revealed.
The unidentified individual visited their GP with ‘respiratory symptoms’, the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) said.
The virus, known as H1N2, is different to the H1N1 strain that caused 457 deaths in the UK during the 2009 swine flu pandemic.
The UKHSA said the patient ‘experienced a mild illness and has fully recovered. The source of their infection has not yet been ascertained and remains under investigation.’
It added: ‘As is usual early in emerging infection events, UKHSA is working closely with partners to determine the characteristics of the pathogen and assess the risk to human health.’
Close contacts of the patient are being followed up and will be offered testing.
In addition, the health agency reminded people with any respiratory symptoms to avoid contact with other people, particularly the elderly and those with existing medical conditions.
‘It is thanks to routine flu surveillance and genome sequencing that we have been able to detect this virus,’ said Meera Chand, incident director at UKHSA. ‘This is the first time we have detected this virus in humans in the UK, though it is very similar to viruses that have been detected in pigs.
There is a swine flu vaccine following the 2009 pandemic
‘We are working rapidly to trace close contacts and reduce any potential spread. In accordance with established protocols, investigations are underway to learn how the individual acquired the infection and to assess whether there are any further associated cases.’
The flu is soaring in seven US states and rising in others, health officials say
In August, an individual in Michigan tested contracted the same strain of swine flu, but was not hospitalised and the World Health Organisation (WHO) said there was ‘no reported evidence of sustained human-to-human transmission’.
Like in humans, swine flu increases during the autumn and winter months.
Chief veterinary officer Christine Middlemiss said: ‘We know that some diseases of animals can be transferred to humans – which is why high standards of animal health, welfare and biosecurity are so important.
‘Through our animal and human surveillance systems we work together to protect everyone. In this case we are providing specialist veterinary and scientific knowledge to support the UKHSA investigation.
‘Pig keepers must also report any suspicion of swine flu in their herds to their local vet immediately.’
Three major subtypes of swine flu have been known to infect humans in the past. H1N1, the strain behind the 2009 pandemic, H3N2, and H1N2, the strain just recorded in the UK.
Since 2005 there have been a total of 50 human cases of H1N2 pig-to-human transmission, none genetically related to this strain.
The major concern with swine flu and other diseases transmitted by animals is their potential to then spread by human-to-human contact, as happened during the 2009 outbreak, and more recently the 2020 Covid-19 pandemic.
H1N1, the virus behind the swine flu pandemic, is now one of many types of flu circulating in humans seasonally and has evolved to be distinct from viruses circulating in pigs.
The first case of swine flu during the pandemic was detected in February in La Gloria, Mexico, in a young boy who later became known as ‘patient zero’.
On June 11, 2009, the WHO officially declared a pandemic.
What are the symptoms of swine flu?
Common symptoms of swine flu include a headache and aching muscles
For most people, swine flu is now a mild infection and generally lasts around a week. The main symptoms are:A headache
Aching muscles
Chills
Sneezing
A runny nose
Loss of appetite
Vomiting
Diarrhoea
However, pregnant women, children under 5, people over 65 and those with underlying health conditions are more at risk of complications if they become infected.Earlier this year the government brought forward the start of the winter flu vaccination programme thanks to the double-whammy of a new Covid variant, Pirola, and a resurgent strain of the H1N1 swine flu.
Swine flu has been circulating at high levels in recent months during Australia’s winter season, which often serves as an indicator of the viruses that will affect the northern hemisphere.
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So a good P2 mask at the appropriate times would solve all this.
Nice so if you really want to fix
asthma then we can tell you something that also works,
and even if you don’t have asthma you won’t get murdered by smoke and pollen and viruses and bacteria and other triggers ¡
Gladys Would Never Have Done This ¡ Gladys Would
Have Saved Australia ¡
This Was Probably Caused By Lockdowns
SCIENCE said:
This Was Probably Caused By Lockdowns
Sorry forgot to link.
https://biv.com/article/2023/11/life-expectancy-canadians-fell-2022-third-year-row-says-statcan
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
This Was Probably Caused By Lockdowns
Sorry forgot to link.
https://biv.com/article/2023/11/life-expectancy-canadians-fell-2022-third-year-row-says-statcan
canada, a beacon of worldist hoodoo
I sees not one dodgy thing writ, I see nothing
Or could it be that disease damages people so
they suffer more from later disease ¿
Nah, impossible ¡
Sure but why not mention
their Preexisting Conditions™ that would make it all just fine and good for The Economy Must Grow ¿
SCIENCE said:
L$O$L$
$L$O$L
“https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-30/mounjaro-weight-loss-diabetes-drug-shortage/103170324“https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-30/mounjaro-weight-loss-diabetes-drug-shortage/103170324:
SCIENCE said:
Ironic.
We still have a lady in the courts whose job is to continually clean door handles, the lifts buttons, etc
It gives her a job I suppose but the point of it seems moot
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:Ironic.
We still have a lady in the courts whose job is to continually clean door handles, the lifts buttons, etc
It gives her a job I suppose but the point of it seems moot
Crimals have dirty hands and don’t wash properly,
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:Ironic.
We still have a lady in the courts whose job is to continually clean door handles, the lifts buttons, etc
It gives her a job I suppose but the point of it seems moot
Crimals have dirty hands and don’t wash properly,
It is alleged that Crimals have dirty hands and don’t wash properly. fixed
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:Ironic.
We still have a lady in the courts whose job is to continually clean door handles, the lifts buttons, etc
It gives her a job I suppose but the point of it seems moot
Crimals have dirty hands and don’t wash properly,
and they leave their fingerprints and DNA everywhere.
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:We still have a lady in the courts whose job is to continually clean door handles, the lifts buttons, etc
It gives her a job I suppose but the point of it seems moot
Crimals have dirty hands and don’t wash properly,
and(it is alleged that) they leave their fingerprints and DNA everywhere.
fixed.
🤯
🤯
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:Ironic.
We still have a lady in the courts whose job is to continually clean door handles, the lifts buttons, etc
It gives her a job I suppose but the point of it seems moot
Crimals have dirty hands and don’t wash properly,
That is true some really smelly people get released from detention.
https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2024/01/21/covid-unmasked-unfair-health-system
It might flush him out.
Peak Warming Man said:
It might flush him out.
Only if he’s lurking.
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It might flush him out.
Only if he’s lurking.
It did.
Happy fourth Covid in Australia anniversary!
I can’t find any real independent review of this gadget, what are the thoughts of the learned one here?
It’s a contraption that sits on your table and has a sniff of the air to see if there’s any COVID in it.
Supposedly.
“ Viruses have genetic material made of nucleic acids. These nucleic acids have a partial negative charge because of their phosphodiester bonds. The protein coat of the virus is made up of amino acids which can be neutral, negative, or positive in charge.”
As does all LIFE.
Also, there are hundreds of respiratory virus, and probably breathe them in 8 – 20 times a minute with generally no ill-effects.
Stick to N95s.
(Note to self: buy more tomorrow.)
OCDC said:
“ Viruses have genetic material made of nucleic acids. These nucleic acids have a partial negative charge because of their phosphodiester bonds. The protein coat of the virus is made up of amino acids which can be neutral, negative, or positive in charge.”As does all LIFE.
Yeah I was doubtful as to how it could pick a COVID virus against many others.
OCDC said:
Also, there are hundreds of respiratory virus, and probably breathe them in 8 – 20 times a minute with generally no ill-effects.Stick to N95s.
(Note to self: buy more tomorrow.)
We use Flo-Masks, better than N95’s.
Spiny Norman said:
OCDC said:I’ve been fit-tested for N95s so I know they are appropriate.Also, there are hundreds of respiratory virus, and probably breathe them in 8 – 20 times a minute with generally no ill-effects.We use Flo-Masks, better than N95’s.Stick to N95s.
(Note to self: buy more tomorrow.)
OCDC said:
Spiny Norman said:OCDC said:I’ve been fit-tested for N95s so I know they are appropriate.Also, there are hundreds of respiratory virus, and probably breathe them in 8 – 20 times a minute with generally no ill-effects.We use Flo-Masks, better than N95’s.Stick to N95s.
(Note to self: buy more tomorrow.)
We’ve been talking about getting fit-tested as well. How does it work?
Spiny Norman said:
OCDC said:There’s a machine that generates suction, with a tube extending from it. The tube is stuck through the mask so that the suction is on the face side. You don the mask then switch on the suction. You do various things wearing the mask, talking, bending forward etc while it records pressure differential. Took about fifteen minutes to test four masks.Spiny Norman said:We’ve been talking about getting fit-tested as well. How does it work?We use Flo-Masks, better than N95’s.I’ve been fit-tested for N95s so I know they are appropriate.
OCDC said:
Spiny Norman said:OCDC said:There’s a machine that generates suction, with a tube extending from it. The tube is stuck through the mask so that the suction is on the face side. You don the mask then switch on the suction. You do various things wearing the mask, talking, bending forward etc while it records pressure differential. Took about fifteen minutes to test four masks.I’ve been fit-tested for N95s so I know they are appropriate.We’ve been talking about getting fit-tested as well. How does it work?
Much as I thought. That would be a bit difficult to do with our masks without having to cut holes in them I imagine.
Spiny Norman said:
OCDC said:Yeah, the mask is not able to be used afterwards.Spiny Norman said:Much as I thought. That would be a bit difficult to do with our masks without having to cut holes in them I imagine.We’ve been talking about getting fit-tested as well. How does it work?There’s a machine that generates suction, with a tube extending from it. The tube is stuck through the mask so that the suction is on the face side. You don the mask then switch on the suction. You do various things wearing the mask, talking, bending forward etc while it records pressure differential. Took about fifteen minutes to test four masks.
OCDC said:
Spiny Norman said:The hole isn’t big though, you could probably patch it with superglue.OCDC said:Yeah, the mask is not able to be used afterwards.There’s a machine that generates suction, with a tube extending from it. The tube is stuck through the mask so that the suction is on the face side. You don the mask then switch on the suction. You do various things wearing the mask, talking, bending forward etc while it records pressure differential. Took about fifteen minutes to test four masks.Much as I thought. That would be a bit difficult to do with our masks without having to cut holes in them I imagine.
OCDC said:
OCDC said:Spiny Norman said:The hole isn’t big though, you could probably patch it with superglue.Much as I thought. That would be a bit difficult to do with our masks without having to cut holes in them I imagine.Yeah, the mask is not able to be used afterwards.
Worth looking at, ta.
https://medicinetoday.com.au/mt/2024/january/something-borrowed/emergence-jn1-evolutionary-step-change-covid-pandemic-why-significant
THE CONVERSATION
The emergence of JN.1 is an evolutionary ‘step change’ in the COVID pandemic. Why is this significant?
Suman Majumdar, Brendan Crabb, Emma Pakula, Stuart Turville
Since it was detected in August 2023, the JN.1 variant of COVID has spread widely. It has become dominant in Australia and around the world, driving the biggest COVID wave seen in many jurisdictions for at least the past year.
The World Health Organization (WHO) classified JN.1 as a “variant of interest” in December 2023 and in January strongly stated COVID was a continuing global health threat causing “far too much” preventable disease with worrying potential for long-term health consequences.
JN.1 is significant. First as a pathogen – it’s a surprisingly new-look version of SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID) and is rapidly displacing other circulating strains (omicron XBB).
It’s also significant because of what it says about COVID’s evolution. Normally, SARS-CoV-2 variants look quite similar to what was there before, accumulating just a few mutations at a time that give the virus a meaningful advantage over its parent.
However, occasionally, as was the case when omicron (B.1.1.529) arose two years ago, variants emerge seemingly out of the blue that have markedly different characteristics to what was there before. This has significant implications for disease and transmission.
Until now, it wasn’t clear this “step-change” evolution would happen again, especially given the ongoing success of the steadily evolving omicron variants.
JN.1 is so distinct and causing such a wave of new infections that many are wondering whether the WHO will recognise JN.1 as the next variant of concern with its own Greek letter. In any case, with JN.1 we’ve entered a new phase of the pandemic.
Where did JN.1 come from?
The JN.1 (or BA.2.86.1.1) story begins with the emergence of its parent lineage BA.2.86 around mid 2023, which originated from a much earlier (2022) omicron sub-variant BA.2.
Chronic infections that may linger unresolved for months (if not years, in some people) likely play a role in the emergence of these step-change variants.
In chronically infected people, the virus silently tests and eventually retains many mutations that help it avoid immunity and survive in that person. For BA.2.86, this resulted in more than 30 mutations of the spike protein (a protein on the surface of SARS-CoV-2 that allows it to attach to our cells).
The sheer volume of infections occurring globally sets the scene for major viral evolution. SARS-CoV-2 continues to have a very high rate of mutation. Accordingly, JN.1 itself is already mutating and evolving quickly.
How is JN.1 different to other variants?
BA.2.86 and now JN.1 are behaving in a manner that looks unique in laboratory studies in two ways.
The first relates to how the virus evades immunity. JN.1 has inherited more than 30 mutations in its spike protein. It also acquired a new mutation, L455S, which further decreases the ability of antibodies (one part of the immune system’s protective response) to bind to the virus and prevent infection.
The second involves changes to the way JN.1 enters and replicates in our cells. Without delving in to the molecular details, recent high-profile lab-based research from the United States and Europe observed BA.2.86 to enter cells from the lung in a similar way to pre-omicron variants like delta. However, in contrast, preliminary work by Australia’s Kirby Institute using different techniques finds replication characteristics that are aligned better with omicron lineages.
Further research to resolve these different cell entry findings is important because it has implications for where the virus may prefer to replicate in the body, which could affect disease severity and transmission.
Whatever the case, these findings show JN.1 (and SARS-CoV-2 in general) can not only navigate its way around our immune system, but is finding new ways to infect cells and transmit effectively. We need to further study how this plays out in people and how it affects clinical outcomes.
Is JN.1 more severe?
The step-change evolution of BA.2.86, combined with the immune-evading features in JN.1, has given the virus a global growth advantage well beyond the XBB.1-based lineages we faced in 2023.
Despite these features, evidence suggests our adaptive immune system could still recognise and respond to BA.286 and JN.1 effectively. Updated monovalent vaccines, tests and treatments remain effective against JN.1.
There are two elements to “severity”: first if it is more “intrinsically” severe (worse illness with an infection in the absence of any immunity) and second if the virus has greater transmission, causing greater illness and deaths, simply because it infects more people. The latter is certainly the case with JN.1.
What next?
We simply don’t know if this virus is on an evolutionary track to becoming the “next common cold” or not, nor have any idea of what that timeframe might be. While examining the trajectories of four historic coronaviruses could give us a glimpse of where we may be heading, this should be considered as just one possible path. The emergence of JN.1 underlines that we are experiencing a continuing epidemic with COVID and that looks like the way forward for the foreseeable future.
We are now in a new pandemic phase: post-emergency. Yet COVID remains the major infectious disease causing harm globally, from both acute infections and long COVID. At a societal and an individual level we need to re-think the risks of accepting wave after wave of infection.
Altogether, this underscores the importance of comprehensive strategies to reduce COVID transmission and impacts, with the least imposition (such as clean indoor air interventions).
People are advised to continue to take active steps to protect themselves and those around them.
For better pandemic preparedness for emerging threats and an improved response to the current one it is crucial we continue global surveillance. The low representation of low- and middle- income countries is a concerning blind-spot. Intensified research is also crucial.
OCDC said:
https://medicinetoday.com.au/mt/2024/january/something-borrowed/emergence-jn1-evolutionary-step-change-covid-pandemic-why-significantTHE CONVERSATION
The emergence of JN.1 is an evolutionary ‘step change’ in the COVID pandemic. Why is this significant?Suman Majumdar, Brendan Crabb, Emma Pakula, Stuart Turville
Since it was detected in August 2023, the JN.1 variant of COVID has spread widely. It has become dominant in Australia and around the world, driving the biggest COVID wave seen in many jurisdictions for at least the past year.
The World Health Organization (WHO) classified JN.1 as a “variant of interest” in December 2023 and in January strongly stated COVID was a continuing global health threat causing “far too much” preventable disease with worrying potential for long-term health consequences.
JN.1 is significant. First as a pathogen – it’s a surprisingly new-look version of SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID) and is rapidly displacing other circulating strains (omicron XBB).
It’s also significant because of what it says about COVID’s evolution. Normally, SARS-CoV-2 variants look quite similar to what was there before, accumulating just a few mutations at a time that give the virus a meaningful advantage over its parent.However, occasionally, as was the case when omicron (B.1.1.529) arose two years ago, variants emerge seemingly out of the blue that have markedly different characteristics to what was there before. This has significant implications for disease and transmission.
Until now, it wasn’t clear this “step-change” evolution would happen again, especially given the ongoing success of the steadily evolving omicron variants.
JN.1 is so distinct and causing such a wave of new infections that many are wondering whether the WHO will recognise JN.1 as the next variant of concern with its own Greek letter. In any case, with JN.1 we’ve entered a new phase of the pandemic.
Where did JN.1 come from?
The JN.1 (or BA.2.86.1.1) story begins with the emergence of its parent lineage BA.2.86 around mid 2023, which originated from a much earlier (2022) omicron sub-variant BA.2.
Chronic infections that may linger unresolved for months (if not years, in some people) likely play a role in the emergence of these step-change variants.
In chronically infected people, the virus silently tests and eventually retains many mutations that help it avoid immunity and survive in that person. For BA.2.86, this resulted in more than 30 mutations of the spike protein (a protein on the surface of SARS-CoV-2 that allows it to attach to our cells).
The sheer volume of infections occurring globally sets the scene for major viral evolution. SARS-CoV-2 continues to have a very high rate of mutation. Accordingly, JN.1 itself is already mutating and evolving quickly.
How is JN.1 different to other variants?
BA.2.86 and now JN.1 are behaving in a manner that looks unique in laboratory studies in two ways.
The first relates to how the virus evades immunity. JN.1 has inherited more than 30 mutations in its spike protein. It also acquired a new mutation, L455S, which further decreases the ability of antibodies (one part of the immune system’s protective response) to bind to the virus and prevent infection.
The second involves changes to the way JN.1 enters and replicates in our cells. Without delving in to the molecular details, recent high-profile lab-based research from the United States and Europe observed BA.2.86 to enter cells from the lung in a similar way to pre-omicron variants like delta. However, in contrast, preliminary work by Australia’s Kirby Institute using different techniques finds replication characteristics that are aligned better with omicron lineages.
Further research to resolve these different cell entry findings is important because it has implications for where the virus may prefer to replicate in the body, which could affect disease severity and transmission.Whatever the case, these findings show JN.1 (and SARS-CoV-2 in general) can not only navigate its way around our immune system, but is finding new ways to infect cells and transmit effectively. We need to further study how this plays out in people and how it affects clinical outcomes.
Is JN.1 more severe?
The step-change evolution of BA.2.86, combined with the immune-evading features in JN.1, has given the virus a global growth advantage well beyond the XBB.1-based lineages we faced in 2023.
Despite these features, evidence suggests our adaptive immune system could still recognise and respond to BA.286 and JN.1 effectively. Updated monovalent vaccines, tests and treatments remain effective against JN.1.
There are two elements to “severity”: first if it is more “intrinsically” severe (worse illness with an infection in the absence of any immunity) and second if the virus has greater transmission, causing greater illness and deaths, simply because it infects more people. The latter is certainly the case with JN.1.
What next?
We simply don’t know if this virus is on an evolutionary track to becoming the “next common cold” or not, nor have any idea of what that timeframe might be. While examining the trajectories of four historic coronaviruses could give us a glimpse of where we may be heading, this should be considered as just one possible path. The emergence of JN.1 underlines that we are experiencing a continuing epidemic with COVID and that looks like the way forward for the foreseeable future.
We are now in a new pandemic phase: post-emergency. Yet COVID remains the major infectious disease causing harm globally, from both acute infections and long COVID. At a societal and an individual level we need to re-think the risks of accepting wave after wave of infection.Altogether, this underscores the importance of comprehensive strategies to reduce COVID transmission and impacts, with the least imposition (such as clean indoor air interventions).
People are advised to continue to take active steps to protect themselves and those around them.
For better pandemic preparedness for emerging threats and an improved response to the current one it is crucial we continue global surveillance. The low representation of low- and middle- income countries is a concerning blind-spot. Intensified research is also crucial.
Lovely. :(
