Date: 3/08/2023 10:20:56
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2060986
Subject: Racism

Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

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Date: 3/08/2023 10:24:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 2060989
Subject: re: Racism

mollwollfumble said:


Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

Wars, dead bodies…

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Date: 3/08/2023 10:26:08
From: Cymek
ID: 2060990
Subject: re: Racism

mollwollfumble said:


Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

It’s superficial, cultural superiority is likely chance and circumstance at a particular point in time.

All empires fall and someone else takes their place.

So no one particular race is superior.

We can also interbreed with any other person of the opposite sex on the planet (bar medical/genetic reasons)

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Date: 3/08/2023 10:26:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2060991
Subject: re: Racism

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

Wars, dead bodies…

How much of the racism that results in wars and dead bodies is fomented and fostered by the ‘rulers’ to motivate the peasantry into fighting the wars so as to achieve the goals of the ‘rulers’?

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Date: 3/08/2023 10:30:20
From: diddly-squat
ID: 2060993
Subject: re: Racism

mollwollfumble said:


Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

the reason racism is bad has nothing to do with if it ‘politically correct’ or otherwise..

it’s because prejudicing against a person on the basis of their ethnicity is just and example of you being a shit human.

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Date: 3/08/2023 10:30:48
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2060994
Subject: re: Racism

I get most of my racism from 4TAB.
They also cover Cricket (blessings and peace be upon it) and football.

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Date: 3/08/2023 10:35:34
From: Cymek
ID: 2060997
Subject: re: Racism

diddly-squat said:


mollwollfumble said:

Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

the reason racism is bad has nothing to do with if it ‘politically correct’ or otherwise..

it’s because prejudicing against a person on the basis of their ethnicity is just and example of you being a shit human.

True

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Date: 3/08/2023 10:38:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 2061002
Subject: re: Racism

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

Wars, dead bodies…

How much of the racism that results in wars and dead bodies is fomented and fostered by the ‘rulers’ to motivate the peasantry into fighting the wars so as to achieve the goals of the ‘rulers’?

Obviously that’s a part. How much of their foment is caused bby them wanting their race to dominate? We all know about the Aryan goals of a certain despot.

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Date: 3/08/2023 10:39:15
From: transition
ID: 2061003
Subject: re: Racism

mollwollfumble said:


Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

the troubles are in a tendency of many of the species with the notably big brain, to think in rigid stereotypes, or conceptual categories if you like, and the force of the wetware tends little useful work across categories

in fact many people hardly sense what a menace the lack of activity across conceptual categories can be, have a horrendous lack of native feel-see for it, made worse by cultural reinforcement, stupid amplified in fact, resulting in a blunting of psychological mindedness

a derrr, and shared derrr, lends to crude ideology

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Date: 3/08/2023 10:39:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 2061004
Subject: re: Racism

diddly-squat said:


mollwollfumble said:

Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

the reason racism is bad has nothing to do with if it ‘politically correct’ or otherwise..

it’s because prejudicing against a person on the basis of their ethnicity is just and example of you being a shit human.

This.

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Date: 3/08/2023 10:43:31
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2061010
Subject: re: Racism

roughbarked said:


diddly-squat said:

mollwollfumble said:

Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

the reason racism is bad has nothing to do with if it ‘politically correct’ or otherwise..

it’s because prejudicing against a person on the basis of their ethnicity is just and example of you being a shit human.

This.

Me too.

But I’m not even sure what “what is the scientific evidence for and against” is supposed to mean.

There is plenty of scientific evidence exists, and is widespread across many different cultures.

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Date: 3/08/2023 10:44:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 2061012
Subject: re: Racism

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

the reason racism is bad has nothing to do with if it ‘politically correct’ or otherwise..

it’s because prejudicing against a person on the basis of their ethnicity is just and example of you being a shit human.

This.

Me too.

But I’m not even sure what “what is the scientific evidence for and against” is supposed to mean.

There is plenty of scientific evidence exists, and is widespread across many different cultures.

True.

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Date: 3/08/2023 10:46:25
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2061013
Subject: re: Racism

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

the reason racism is bad has nothing to do with if it ‘politically correct’ or otherwise..

it’s because prejudicing against a person on the basis of their ethnicity is just and example of you being a shit human.

This.

Me too.

But I’m not even sure what “what is the scientific evidence for and against” is supposed to mean.

There is plenty of scientific evidence exists, and is widespread across many different cultures.

seems to be a “that it” missing there.

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Date: 3/08/2023 10:48:03
From: dv
ID: 2061014
Subject: re: Racism

Yeah nah, life’s too short

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Date: 3/08/2023 10:55:26
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 2061016
Subject: re: Racism

transition said:


mollwollfumble said:

Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

the troubles are in a tendency of many of the species with the notably big brain, to think in rigid stereotypes, or conceptual categories if you like, and the force of the wetware tends little useful work across categories

in fact many people hardly sense what a menace the lack of activity across conceptual categories can be, have a horrendous lack of native feel-see for it, made worse by cultural reinforcement, stupid amplified in fact, resulting in a blunting of psychological mindedness

a derrr, and shared derrr, lends to crude ideology

I both get the general drift of what you are saying, and I agree with it.

You don’t see that very often.

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Date: 3/08/2023 11:02:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 2061017
Subject: re: Racism

The Rev Dodgson said:


transition said:

mollwollfumble said:

Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

the troubles are in a tendency of many of the species with the notably big brain, to think in rigid stereotypes, or conceptual categories if you like, and the force of the wetware tends little useful work across categories

in fact many people hardly sense what a menace the lack of activity across conceptual categories can be, have a horrendous lack of native feel-see for it, made worse by cultural reinforcement, stupid amplified in fact, resulting in a blunting of psychological mindedness

a derrr, and shared derrr, lends to crude ideology

I both get the general drift of what you are saying, and I agree with it.

You don’t see that very often.

:) You don’t?

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Date: 3/08/2023 11:08:15
From: Ogmog
ID: 2061019
Subject: re: Racism

mollwollfumble said:


Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

TRIBALISM
is a throw-back
that harkens back to a
time wherein territory, mates
& resources was much more an issue.

the thin veneer of civilization in our monkey brain

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Date: 3/08/2023 11:12:16
From: Cymek
ID: 2061021
Subject: re: Racism

Ogmog said:


mollwollfumble said:

Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

TRIBALISM
is a throw-back
that harkens back to a
time wherein territory, mates
& resources was much more an issue.

the thin veneer of civilization in our monkey brain

What would be the number of people who find nationalism strange (I do) and instead think we are all part of the human race and resources, knowledge and technology shared.
It could work in todays world as we have the ability to share all of this

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Date: 3/08/2023 11:34:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 2061034
Subject: re: Racism

Cymek said:


Ogmog said:

mollwollfumble said:

Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

TRIBALISM
is a throw-back
that harkens back to a
time wherein territory, mates
& resources was much more an issue.

the thin veneer of civilization in our monkey brain

What would be the number of people who find nationalism strange (I do) and instead think we are all part of the human race and resources, knowledge and technology shared.
It could work in todays world as we have the ability to share all of this


Yes. Count me in.

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Date: 3/08/2023 11:45:49
From: esselte
ID: 2061039
Subject: re: Racism

Cymek said:


Ogmog said:

mollwollfumble said:

Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

TRIBALISM
is a throw-back
that harkens back to a
time wherein territory, mates
& resources was much more an issue.

the thin veneer of civilization in our monkey brain

What would be the number of people who find nationalism strange (I do) and instead think we are all part of the human race and resources, knowledge and technology shared.
It could work in todays world as we have the ability to share all of this

Nationalism to some degree is required for the maintenance of nations. In order to distinguish nations from each other they must have some unique properties, and flavours of nationalism are, by definition, unique to each nation. It is required to maintain the current zeitgeist of nation-states as the alternatives are anarchy or centralized (one-world) government. The disadvantages of anarchy are, I think, obvious enough and world wide anarchy even more so. A one-world government would be a bad idea (at this time, any way) because it is preferable to have power distributed, such that each node of power can work as checks and balances against other nodes. There would be little stopping a one world government from escalating retaliation against intractable dissident groups up to and including the use of non-conventional weapons ,for example.

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Date: 3/08/2023 11:52:49
From: Cymek
ID: 2061043
Subject: re: Racism

esselte said:


Cymek said:

Ogmog said:

TRIBALISM
is a throw-back
that harkens back to a
time wherein territory, mates
& resources was much more an issue.

the thin veneer of civilization in our monkey brain

What would be the number of people who find nationalism strange (I do) and instead think we are all part of the human race and resources, knowledge and technology shared.
It could work in todays world as we have the ability to share all of this

Nationalism to some degree is required for the maintenance of nations. In order to distinguish nations from each other they must have some unique properties, and flavours of nationalism are, by definition, unique to each nation. It is required to maintain the current zeitgeist of nation-states as the alternatives are anarchy or centralized (one-world) government. The disadvantages of anarchy are, I think, obvious enough and world wide anarchy even more so. A one-world government would be a bad idea (at this time, any way) because it is preferable to have power distributed, such that each node of power can work as checks and balances against other nodes. There would be little stopping a one world government from escalating retaliation against intractable dissident groups up to and including the use of non-conventional weapons ,for example.

Not necessarily a one world government but more the sharing of certain technology and resources freely.
Lets say someone manages to build a working, reliable fusion reactor, shouldn’t that be shared with everyone, the rich nations help to build them for the poorer nations.
In the long run it benefits the entire planet

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Date: 3/08/2023 13:11:06
From: Ogmog
ID: 2061062
Subject: re: Racism

Cymek said:


esselte said:

Cymek said:

What would be the number of people who find nationalism strange (I do) and instead think we are all part of the human race and resources, knowledge and technology shared.
It could work in todays world as we have the ability to share all of this

Nationalism to some degree is required for the maintenance of nations. In order to distinguish nations from each other they must have some unique properties, and flavours of nationalism are, by definition, unique to each nation. It is required to maintain the current zeitgeist of nation-states as the alternatives are anarchy or centralized (one-world) government. The disadvantages of anarchy are, I think, obvious enough and world wide anarchy even more so. A one-world government would be a bad idea (at this time, any way) because it is preferable to have power distributed, such that each node of power can work as checks and balances against other nodes. There would be little stopping a one world government from escalating retaliation against intractable dissident groups up to and including the use of non-conventional weapons ,for example.

Not necessarily a one world government but more the sharing of certain technology and resources freely.
Lets say someone manages to build a working, reliable fusion reactor, shouldn’t that be shared with everyone, the rich nations help to build them for the poorer nations.
In the long run it benefits the entire planet

it would also solve the immigration issue:
if richer countries fronted up the money & technology
to countries that’ve had less advantages due to mismanagement
ie less educational opportunities or decent paying centralized manufacturing jobs
there’d be far less need to relocate simply to have a decent life rather than simple survival

once the playing field is at long last leveled, all of mankind would (potentially) be the beneficiaries

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Date: 3/08/2023 13:14:18
From: buffy
ID: 2061065
Subject: re: Racism

In my mind racism is simple fear of “the other”. People different from the ones you know. Hence people can be racist about a group, but make exceptions for people from that group that they actually know.

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Date: 3/08/2023 13:14:55
From: Ogmog
ID: 2061067
Subject: re: Racism

Cymek said:


Ogmog said:

mollwollfumble said:

Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

TRIBALISM
is a throw-back
that harkens back to a
time wherein territory, mates
& resources was much more an issue.

the thin veneer of civilization in our monkey brain

What would be the number of people who find nationalism strange (I do) and instead think we are all part of the human race and resources, knowledge and technology shared.
It could work in todays world as we have the ability to share all of this

don’t look now
but the OT was racism, not nationalism

just sayin’ <-:

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Date: 3/08/2023 13:18:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2061070
Subject: re: Racism

buffy said:


In my mind racism is simple fear of “the other”. People different from the ones you know. Hence people can be racist about a group, but make exceptions for people from that group that they actually know.

Aye, it’s small-minded partitioning of peoples without regard to regional history and its effects, and overlooking that we’re all individuals anyway.

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Date: 3/08/2023 13:22:26
From: Ogmog
ID: 2061071
Subject: re: Racism

Cymek said:


Ogmog said:

mollwollfumble said:

Racism isn’t politically correct.

But what is the scientific evidence for and against?

TRIBALISM
is a throw-back
that harkens back to a
time wherein territory, mates
& resources was much more an issue.

the thin veneer of civilization in our monkey brain

What would be the number of people who find nationalism strange (I do) and instead think we are all part of the human race and resources, knowledge and technology shared.
It could work in todays world as we have the ability to share all of this

IMAGINE :) (:

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Date: 3/08/2023 23:11:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2061247
Subject: re: Racism

LOL

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