Date: 6/08/2023 09:06:27
From: OCDC
ID: 2061975
Subject: A massive cavern beneath a West Antarctic glacier is teeming with life

Trigger warning: American units

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/cavern-west-antarctic-glacier-life

Long article but fascinating.

The coastal plain of the Kamb Ice Stream, a West Antarctic glacier, hardly seems like a coast at all. Stand in this place, 800 kilometers from the South Pole, and you see nothing but flat ice extending in every direction. The ice is some 700 meters thick and stretches for hundreds of kilometers off the coastline, floating on the water. On clear summer days, the ice reflects the sunlight with such ferocity that it inflicts sunburn in the insides of your nostrils. It might seem hard to believe, but hidden beneath this ice is a muddy tidal marsh, where a burbling river wends its way into the ocean.

Until recently, no human had ever glimpsed that secret landscape. Scientists had merely inferred its existence from the faint reflections of radar and seismic waves. But in the closing days of 2021, a team of scientists from New Zealand melted a narrow hole through the glacier’s ice and lowered in a camera. They had hoped that their hole would intersect with the river, which they believed had melted a channel up into the ice — a vast water-filled cavity, nearly tall enough to hold the Empire State Building and half as long as Manhattan. On December 29, Craig Stevens finally got his first look inside. It is a moment that he will always remember.

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Date: 6/08/2023 09:08:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 2061977
Subject: re: A massive cavern beneath a West Antarctic glacier is teeming with life

OCDC said:


Trigger warning: American units

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/cavern-west-antarctic-glacier-life

Long article but fascinating.

The coastal plain of the Kamb Ice Stream, a West Antarctic glacier, hardly seems like a coast at all. Stand in this place, 800 kilometers from the South Pole, and you see nothing but flat ice extending in every direction. The ice is some 700 meters thick and stretches for hundreds of kilometers off the coastline, floating on the water. On clear summer days, the ice reflects the sunlight with such ferocity that it inflicts sunburn in the insides of your nostrils. It might seem hard to believe, but hidden beneath this ice is a muddy tidal marsh, where a burbling river wends its way into the ocean.

Until recently, no human had ever glimpsed that secret landscape. Scientists had merely inferred its existence from the faint reflections of radar and seismic waves. But in the closing days of 2021, a team of scientists from New Zealand melted a narrow hole through the glacier’s ice and lowered in a camera. They had hoped that their hole would intersect with the river, which they believed had melted a channel up into the ice — a vast water-filled cavity, nearly tall enough to hold the Empire State Building and half as long as Manhattan. On December 29, Craig Stevens finally got his first look inside. It is a moment that he will always remember.

That’s awesome but have they any idea of how long it has been like that? I’ll have to read the article of course.. ;)

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Date: 6/08/2023 09:41:41
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2061994
Subject: re: A massive cavern beneath a West Antarctic glacier is teeming with life

and now humans have got there, was

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Date: 6/08/2023 09:44:31
From: kii
ID: 2061995
Subject: re: A massive cavern beneath a West Antarctic glacier is teeming with life

Lololol at the trigger warning.

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Date: 6/08/2023 09:52:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2061997
Subject: re: A massive cavern beneath a West Antarctic glacier is teeming with life

Ta, an interesting slab of Sunday reading.

Various Antarctic amphipods:

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Date: 6/08/2023 09:57:06
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2061998
Subject: re: A massive cavern beneath a West Antarctic glacier is teeming with life

Is it life as we know it?

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Date: 6/08/2023 09:58:04
From: Arts
ID: 2061999
Subject: re: A massive cavern beneath a West Antarctic glacier is teeming with life

Peak Warming Man said:


Is it life as we know it?

and how much of it is tasty?

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Date: 6/08/2023 10:07:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 2062005
Subject: re: A massive cavern beneath a West Antarctic glacier is teeming with life

Arts said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Is it life as we know it?

and how much of it is tasty?

Amphidods are probably edible but they’re mostly very small.

Some of them also eat people, as these ones tried to do to this unfortunate lad a few years ago.

Australian teen just ‘unfortunate’ to be attacked by meat-loving sea fleas

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/aug/08/australian-teen-just-unfortunate-to-be-attacked-by-meat-loving-sea-fleas

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Date: 6/08/2023 10:42:42
From: Michael V
ID: 2062034
Subject: re: A massive cavern beneath a West Antarctic glacier is teeming with life

Bubblecar said:


Arts said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Is it life as we know it?

and how much of it is tasty?

Amphidods are probably edible but they’re mostly very small.

Some of them also eat people, as these ones tried to do to this unfortunate lad a few years ago.

Australian teen just ‘unfortunate’ to be attacked by meat-loving sea fleas

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/aug/08/australian-teen-just-unfortunate-to-be-attacked-by-meat-loving-sea-fleas

Bugger.

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Date: 6/08/2023 14:02:43
From: Ogmog
ID: 2062185
Subject: re: A massive cavern beneath a West Antarctic glacier is teeming with life

OCDC said:


Trigger warning: American units

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/cavern-west-antarctic-glacier-life

Long article but fascinating.
> snip <

why not?

Krill

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Date: 6/08/2023 14:45:29
From: PermeateFree
ID: 2062201
Subject: re: A massive cavern beneath a West Antarctic glacier is teeming with life

roughbarked said:


OCDC said:

Trigger warning: American units

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/cavern-west-antarctic-glacier-life

Long article but fascinating.

The coastal plain of the Kamb Ice Stream, a West Antarctic glacier, hardly seems like a coast at all. Stand in this place, 800 kilometers from the South Pole, and you see nothing but flat ice extending in every direction. The ice is some 700 meters thick and stretches for hundreds of kilometers off the coastline, floating on the water. On clear summer days, the ice reflects the sunlight with such ferocity that it inflicts sunburn in the insides of your nostrils. It might seem hard to believe, but hidden beneath this ice is a muddy tidal marsh, where a burbling river wends its way into the ocean.

Until recently, no human had ever glimpsed that secret landscape. Scientists had merely inferred its existence from the faint reflections of radar and seismic waves. But in the closing days of 2021, a team of scientists from New Zealand melted a narrow hole through the glacier’s ice and lowered in a camera. They had hoped that their hole would intersect with the river, which they believed had melted a channel up into the ice — a vast water-filled cavity, nearly tall enough to hold the Empire State Building and half as long as Manhattan. On December 29, Craig Stevens finally got his first look inside. It is a moment that he will always remember.

That’s awesome but have they any idea of how long it has been like that? I’ll have to read the article of course.. ;)

Around 35 years, which is quite extraordinary. They think it is mainly caused by periodic sub-ice floods from upstream that flow to the sea, and the sediment it carries which contains micronutrients supports the entire ecosystem.

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Date: 6/08/2023 14:47:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 2062204
Subject: re: A massive cavern beneath a West Antarctic glacier is teeming with life

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

OCDC said:

Trigger warning: American units

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/cavern-west-antarctic-glacier-life

Long article but fascinating.

The coastal plain of the Kamb Ice Stream, a West Antarctic glacier, hardly seems like a coast at all. Stand in this place, 800 kilometers from the South Pole, and you see nothing but flat ice extending in every direction. The ice is some 700 meters thick and stretches for hundreds of kilometers off the coastline, floating on the water. On clear summer days, the ice reflects the sunlight with such ferocity that it inflicts sunburn in the insides of your nostrils. It might seem hard to believe, but hidden beneath this ice is a muddy tidal marsh, where a burbling river wends its way into the ocean.

Until recently, no human had ever glimpsed that secret landscape. Scientists had merely inferred its existence from the faint reflections of radar and seismic waves. But in the closing days of 2021, a team of scientists from New Zealand melted a narrow hole through the glacier’s ice and lowered in a camera. They had hoped that their hole would intersect with the river, which they believed had melted a channel up into the ice — a vast water-filled cavity, nearly tall enough to hold the Empire State Building and half as long as Manhattan. On December 29, Craig Stevens finally got his first look inside. It is a moment that he will always remember.

That’s awesome but have they any idea of how long it has been like that? I’ll have to read the article of course.. ;)

Around 35 years, which is quite extraordinary. They think it is mainly caused by periodic sub-ice floods from upstream that flow to the sea, and the sediment it carries which contains micronutrients supports the entire ecosystem.

Thanks.

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Date: 9/08/2023 12:09:44
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 2063213
Subject: re: A massive cavern beneath a West Antarctic glacier is teeming with life

Bubblecar said:


Ta, an interesting slab of Sunday reading.

Various Antarctic amphipods:


Yes!

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