According to Professor Nicholas Epley, the way we perceive ourselves in our mind is not actually how we look in reality.

In his research, individuals’ faces were adjusted in 10% increments to appear more or less attractive, using features resembling those of conventionally attractive individuals. Participants were then asked to identify their own faces from a set of images.

Most of them chose the more attractive versions of their own faces more rapidly, particularly favoring faces enhanced by 20%.

The inclination for error also extends to the faces of our dear friends. But not to strangers.

For an extended abstract, see https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167208318601

I can’t help wondering if this is merely an artefact of remembering what we looked like when we much younger. What do you think?

mollwollfumble said:

According to Professor Nicholas Epley, the way we perceive ourselves in our mind is not actually how we look in reality.

In his research, individuals’ faces were adjusted in 10% increments to appear more or less attractive, using features resembling those of conventionally attractive individuals. Participants were then asked to identify their own faces from a set of images.

Most of them chose the more attractive versions of their own faces more rapidly, particularly favoring faces enhanced by 20%.

The inclination for error also extends to the faces of our dear friends. But not to strangers.

For an extended abstract, see https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167208318601

I can’t help wondering if this is merely an artefact of remembering what we looked like when we much younger. What do you think?

I think you are probably right.

mollwollfumble said:

According to Professor Nicholas Epley, the way we perceive ourselves in our mind is not actually how we look in reality.

In his research, individuals’ faces were adjusted in 10% increments to appear more or less attractive, using features resembling those of conventionally attractive individuals. Participants were then asked to identify their own faces from a set of images.

Most of them chose the more attractive versions of their own faces more rapidly, particularly favoring faces enhanced by 20%.

The inclination for error also extends to the faces of our dear friends. But not to strangers.

For an extended abstract, see https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167208318601

I can’t help wondering if this is merely an artefact of remembering what we looked like when we much younger. What do you think?

Yeah its weird, mirrors are reversed, cameras seem to make your face look fatter and other reflections can be distorted.
The ageing process is sneaky you get a continuous aging version of yourself which seems to override the previous version from years ago that you forget in your mind you looked like that.

Many middle-aged and older people do retain an internal self-portrait from their younger days, which tends to “inform” our mirror perception, tempering many of the signs of age.

This self-perception effect doesn’t work when we look at honest photos, so we tend to be shocked at how old and decrepit we actually look.

Bubblecar said:

Many middle-aged and older people do retain an internal self-portrait from their younger days, which tends to “inform” our mirror perception, tempering many of the signs of age.

This self-perception effect doesn’t work when we look at honest photos, so we tend to be shocked at how old and decrepit we actually look.

Sucks doesn’t it
Seems to also include ones mind set and physical ability
I remember reading middle aged men get themselves killed or seriously injured as they try feats they remember doing from when they were younger they think they can still do.

What I find fascinating is that some people who are blind due to visual cortex damage (and have no conscious awareness of the visual world) can still perceive and respond to people’s facial expressions. This is due to the optic nerves sending data not only to the conscious parts of the brain, but also to the limbic system that processes a lot of emotions.

So these blind people will be responding to smiles and frowns etc without knowing why, presumably just experiencing it as a kind of intuition.

am I ever going to see my face again?

I reckon I could pick myself out of a lineup

Bubblecar said:

What I find fascinating is that some people who are blind due to visual cortex damage (and have no conscious awareness of the visual world) can still perceive and respond to people’s facial expressions. This is due to the optic nerves sending data not only to the conscious parts of the brain, but also to the limbic system that processes a lot of emotions.

So these blind people will be responding to smiles and frowns etc without knowing why, presumably just experiencing it as a kind of intuition.

I’m somewhat bullish on the capacity of the human brain to adapt to injury.

dv said:

I reckon I could pick myself out of a lineup

I reckon I could pick my own nose.

dv said:

I reckon I could pick myself out of a lineup

I’ve been in several line-ups.

There was a large police station near a place where i worked.

The cops would occasionally borrow several of us to make up the line-up.

I never got ‘identified’.

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

I reckon I could pick myself out of a lineup

I’ve been in several line-ups.

There was a large police station near a place where i worked.

The cops would occasionally borrow several of us to make up the line-up.

I never got ‘identified’.

Lucky

Bogsnorkler said:

am I ever going to see my face again?

no way get …

monkey skipper said:

Bogsnorkler said:

am I ever going to see my face again?

no way get …

you’re an angel…

Bogsnorkler said:

monkey skipper said:

Bogsnorkler said:

am I ever going to see my face again?

no way get …

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you’re an angel…

I remember seeing the Angels at the Civic Hotel in Sydney as part of the Five Bands for Five Dollars night.

The Angels, AC/DC, Split Enz, Rose Tattoo and INXS.

We sort of knew it at the time, but with every passing year, those of us who were there increasingly recognise it as The Ultimate Moment in Australian Rock and Roll.

And it never gets a mention, anywhere.

I can’t even remember the date. Middlish late 1970s is the best the grey cells can manage.

captain_spalding said:

Bogsnorkler said:

monkey skipper said:

no way get …

.
you’re an angel…

I remember seeing the Angels at the Civic Hotel in Sydney as part of the Five Bands for Five Dollars night.

The Angels, AC/DC, Split Enz, Rose Tattoo and INXS.

We sort of knew it at the time, but with every passing year, those of us who were there increasingly recognise it as The Ultimate Moment in Australian Rock and Roll.

And it never gets a mention, anywhere.

I can’t even remember the date. Middlish late 1970s is the best the grey cells can manage.

Nice.

mollwollfumble said:

According to Professor Nicholas Epley, the way we perceive ourselves in our mind is not actually how we look in reality.

In his research, individuals’ faces were adjusted in 10% increments to appear more or less attractive, using features resembling those of conventionally attractive individuals. Participants were then asked to identify their own faces from a set of images.

Most of them chose the more attractive versions of their own faces more rapidly, particularly favoring faces enhanced by 20%.

The inclination for error also extends to the faces of our dear friends. But not to strangers.

For an extended abstract, see https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167208318601

I can’t help wondering if this is merely an artefact of remembering what we looked like when we much younger. What do you think?

Grandma celebrates her 100th B’Day.
WHAT???