Arts said:

Definitely tea this end but I wouldn’t say I’m a dog person.

Arts said:

black and a morning person. good god is that the time. off to bed with me so I can greet the new day at sparrow fart.

Arts said:

Flat White:
Not a morning person.
Has to work to provide others with money.
Probably hungover.

Tea, black and one.

dv said:

The things mathematicians find interesting is a mystery to me.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The things mathematicians find interesting is a mystery to me.

ikr they’re such nerds

dv said:

:)

dv said:

Seems a fair comment.

Not so sure about the others.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Seems a fair comment.

Not so sure about the others.

I’ve done OK and I haven’t fished since I was 14.

:-O

dv said:

I haven’t yet. My plastic measuring mug (which has a similar handle) has a piece of plastic to stop that. I’d have to cut it out.

dv said:

What happens when the jug angle gets steeper? I reckon it would run off both sides of the handle, so I’m calling BS on that one.

dv said:

I still forget to use it.

Betoota Advocate fails Economics 101.

Eighty Mile Beach in Western Australia used to be called Ninety Mile Beach but authorities changed the name in 1946 to avoid confusion. It’s 137 miles long.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Betoota Advocate fails Economics 101.

But, they will raise their prices, won’t they?

Arts said:

Eighty Mile Beach in Western Australia used to be called Ninety Mile Beach but authorities changed the name in 1946 to avoid confusion. It’s 137 miles long.

There are many X mile beaches in Australia and none have them have been converted to kilometres.

Arts said:

Eighty Mile Beach in Western Australia used to be called Ninety Mile Beach but authorities changed the name in 1946 to avoid confusion. It’s 137 miles long.

Ninety Mile Beach in Gippsland, Victoria is actually 94 miles long.

fsm said:

Arts said:

Eighty Mile Beach in Western Australia used to be called Ninety Mile Beach but authorities changed the name in 1946 to avoid confusion. It’s 137 miles long.

Ninety Mile Beach in Gippsland, Victoria is actually 94 miles long.

The Imperial system of measurement.

What is it good for?

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Betoota Advocate fails Economics 101.

But, they will raise their prices, won’t they?

Certainly but what does that matter?

fsm said:

Arts said:

Eighty Mile Beach in Western Australia used to be called Ninety Mile Beach but authorities changed the name in 1946 to avoid confusion. It’s 137 miles long.

Ninety Mile Beach in Gippsland, Victoria is actually 94 miles long.

According to the electric internet, the nearby 75 mile beach on K’gari is 75 miles long.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Betoota Advocate fails Economics 101.

In what way?

Arts said:

Eighty Mile Beach in Western Australia used to be called Ninety Mile Beach but authorities changed the name in 1946 to avoid confusion. It’s 137 miles long.

Used to go salmon fishing along 90 mile beach in Victoria.

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Betoota Advocate fails Economics 101.

In what way?

By confusing the effect that an AirBnB tax would have on the price of short-stay properties versus rentals.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Betoota Advocate fails Economics 101.

The money is to be spent on affordable housing

Arts said:

Eighty Mile Beach in Western Australia used to be called Ninety Mile Beach but authorities changed the name in 1946 to avoid confusion. It’s 137 miles long.

What’s a mile?

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Betoota Advocate fails Economics 101.

In what way?

By confusing the effect that an AirBnB tax would have on the price of short-stay properties versus rentals.

I’m confused too (economics confuses me, and always has).

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Betoota Advocate fails Economics 101.

But, they will raise their prices, won’t they?

Certainly but what does that matter?

Nothing to me, i don’t use those places much, and i’ve never contemplated taking a holiday in Victoria. But, if it’s meant to act as any sort of disincentive for people to boot out long-term renters, and discourage them from turning their rental premises into AirBnBs, it not only doesn’t matter much, but it won’t achieve much.

Michael V said:

fsm said:

Arts said:

Eighty Mile Beach in Western Australia used to be called Ninety Mile Beach but authorities changed the name in 1946 to avoid confusion. It’s 137 miles long.

Ninety Mile Beach in Gippsland, Victoria is actually 94 miles long.

According to the electric internet, the nearby 75 mile beach on K’gari is 75 miles long.

Well, that’s just stupid. Has anyone explained to the Qld govt how this game is played?

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

But, they will raise their prices, won’t they?

Certainly but what does that matter?

Nothing to me, i don’t use those places much, and i’ve never contemplated taking a holiday in Victoria. But, if it’s meant to act as any sort of disincentive for people to boot out long-term renters, and discourage them from turning their rental premises into AirBnBs, it not only doesn’t matter much, but it won’t achieve much.

It’s meant to raise money to spend on affordable housing.

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Certainly but what does that matter?

Nothing to me, i don’t use those places much, and i’ve never contemplated taking a holiday in Victoria. But, if it’s meant to act as any sort of disincentive for people to boot out long-term renters, and discourage them from turning their rental premises into AirBnBs, it not only doesn’t matter much, but it won’t achieve much.

It’s meant to raise money to spend on affordable housing.

Oh, like the car rego and petrol taxes are all spent on improving roads and making them safer?

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

Nothing to me, i don’t use those places much, and i’ve never contemplated taking a holiday in Victoria. But, if it’s meant to act as any sort of disincentive for people to boot out long-term renters, and discourage them from turning their rental premises into AirBnBs, it not only doesn’t matter much, but it won’t achieve much.

It’s meant to raise money to spend on affordable housing.

Oh, like the car rego and petrol taxes are all spent on improving roads and making them safer?

Well yeah.

The roads certainly are better and more extensive than they used to be. Bruce Highway used to be absolute shit.

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

In what way?

By confusing the effect that an AirBnB tax would have on the price of short-stay properties versus rentals.

I’m confused too (economics confuses me, and always has).

Consider a property that is currently priced at $100 a night. The owner could rent it out for that much or AirBnB it. The new tax means they must now charge short-stays $107.5. For the marginal properties there will be less demand for short-stays at that price so renting it out for $100 will be optimal. Therefore taxing short-stays will put more properties available to be rented. We must remember that there is no shortage of renters willing to pay that price but rather a shortage of supply.

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

fsm said:

Ninety Mile Beach in Gippsland, Victoria is actually 94 miles long.

According to the electric internet, the nearby 75 mile beach on K’gari is 75 miles long.

Well, that’s just stupid. Has anyone explained to the Qld govt how this game is played?

It was named in 1770.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

By confusing the effect that an AirBnB tax would have on the price of short-stay properties versus rentals.

I’m confused too (economics confuses me, and always has).

Consider a property that is currently priced at $100 a night. The owner could rent it out for that much or AirBnB it. The new tax means they must now charge short-stays $107.5. For the marginal properties there will be less demand for short-stays at that price so renting it out for $100 will be optimal. Therefore taxing short-stays will put more properties available to be rented. We must remember that there is no shortage of renters willing to pay that price but rather a shortage of supply.

Ta.

Naturally dividing causality between road quality, car quality, policing, driver education, regulation etc would be difficult but the increase in road safety in Australia since 1970 has been amazing. There were 3798 road deaths in 1970, 1194 road deaths in 2022, despite the fact that the population has doubled and people are on average driving more km per cap than they did in 1970. On a per capita basis the death rate is about 16% what it used to be. On a per km basis, 11%.
It’s been one of the real good news success stories, along with smoking reduction.

dv said:

Naturally dividing causality between road quality, car quality, policing, driver education, regulation etc would be difficult but the increase in road safety in Australia since 1970 has been amazing. There were 3798 road deaths in 1970, 1194 road deaths in 2022, despite the fact that the population has doubled and people are on average driving more km per cap than they did in 1970. On a per capita basis the death rate is about 16% what it used to be. On a per km basis, 11%.
It’s been one of the real good news success stories, along with smoking reduction.

Impressive.

dv said:

Naturally dividing causality between road quality, car quality, policing, driver education, regulation etc would be difficult but the increase in road safety in Australia since 1970 has been amazing. There were 3798 road deaths in 1970, 1194 road deaths in 2022, despite the fact that the population has doubled and people are on average driving more km per cap than they did in 1970. On a per capita basis the death rate is about 16% what it used to be. On a per km basis, 11%.
It’s been one of the real good news success stories, along with smoking reduction.

Agreed.

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

It’s meant to raise money to spend on affordable housing.

Oh, like the car rego and petrol taxes are all spent on improving roads and making them safer?

Well yeah.

The roads certainly are better and more extensive than they used to be. Bruce Highway used to be absolute shit.

Agreed. We did see improvements on it in the years during which we shuttled up and down it.

Yeah

dv said:

Naturally dividing causality between road quality, car quality, policing, driver education, regulation etc would be difficult but the increase in road safety in Australia since 1970 has been amazing. There were 3798 road deaths in 1970, 1194 road deaths in 2022, despite the fact that the population has doubled and people are on average driving more km per cap than they did in 1970. On a per capita basis the death rate is about 16% what it used to be. On a per km basis, 11%.
It’s been one of the real good news success stories, along with smoking reduction.

I’d estimate a good 90% of the reduction in fatalities is due to improved engineering of not only the cars themselves but also of the quality of the roads.
I’d also be comfortable in saying that the standards of driving have likely dropped.

Spiny Norman said:

dv said:

Naturally dividing causality between road quality, car quality, policing, driver education, regulation etc would be difficult but the increase in road safety in Australia since 1970 has been amazing. There were 3798 road deaths in 1970, 1194 road deaths in 2022, despite the fact that the population has doubled and people are on average driving more km per cap than they did in 1970. On a per capita basis the death rate is about 16% what it used to be. On a per km basis, 11%.
It’s been one of the real good news success stories, along with smoking reduction.

I’d estimate a good 90% of the reduction in fatalities is due to improved engineering of not only the cars themselves but also of the quality of the roads.
I’d also be comfortable in saying that the standards of driving have likely dropped.

I would hope that the average skill of P-platers has increased with stricter learner requirements.

OCDC said:

Spiny Norman said:

dv said:

Naturally dividing causality between road quality, car quality, policing, driver education, regulation etc would be difficult but the increase in road safety in Australia since 1970 has been amazing. There were 3798 road deaths in 1970, 1194 road deaths in 2022, despite the fact that the population has doubled and people are on average driving more km per cap than they did in 1970. On a per capita basis the death rate is about 16% what it used to be. On a per km basis, 11%.
It’s been one of the real good news success stories, along with smoking reduction.

I’d estimate a good 90% of the reduction in fatalities is due to improved engineering of not only the cars themselves but also of the quality of the roads.
I’d also be comfortable in saying that the standards of driving have likely dropped.

I would hope that the average skill of P-platers has increased with stricter learner requirements.

Isn’t one of those requirements doing a minimum number of hours in the car with a parent (or whoever) watching what’s going on? After driving for several decades I’m far from impressed with the standards of many people on the road.

Spiny Norman said:

OCDC said:

Spiny Norman said:

I’d estimate a good 90% of the reduction in fatalities is due to improved engineering of not only the cars themselves but also of the quality of the roads.
I’d also be comfortable in saying that the standards of driving have likely dropped.

I would hope that the average skill of P-platers has increased with stricter learner requirements.

Isn’t one of those requirements doing a minimum number of hours in the car with a parent (or whoever) watching what’s going on? After driving for several decades I’m far from impressed with the standards of many people on the road.

Yes, but I think even supervision with a sub-optimal adult is better than no supervision at all.

OCDC said:

Spiny Norman said:

OCDC said:

I would hope that the average skill of P-platers has increased with stricter learner requirements.

Isn’t one of those requirements doing a minimum number of hours in the car with a parent (or whoever) watching what’s going on? After driving for several decades I’m far from impressed with the standards of many people on the road.

Yes, but I think even supervision with a sub-optimal adult is better than no supervision at all.

Maybe.
I’ve taught Spocky how to deal with intersections and roundabouts, and she reckons it’s saved her a few times. Too many people on the roads make me very nervous and cautious.

Spiny Norman said:

dv said:

Naturally dividing causality between road quality, car quality, policing, driver education, regulation etc would be difficult but the increase in road safety in Australia since 1970 has been amazing. There were 3798 road deaths in 1970, 1194 road deaths in 2022, despite the fact that the population has doubled and people are on average driving more km per cap than they did in 1970. On a per capita basis the death rate is about 16% what it used to be. On a per km basis, 11%.
It’s been one of the real good news success stories, along with smoking reduction.

I’d estimate a good 90% of the reduction in fatalities is due to improved engineering of not only the cars themselves but also of the quality of the roads.
I’d also be comfortable in saying that the standards of driving have likely dropped.

I’d dare say that Random Breath Testing and the introduction of technology to test for alcohol has helped, too. Before 1970 people used to regularly drive whilst affected by alcohol.

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

dv said:

Naturally dividing causality between road quality, car quality, policing, driver education, regulation etc would be difficult but the increase in road safety in Australia since 1970 has been amazing. There were 3798 road deaths in 1970, 1194 road deaths in 2022, despite the fact that the population has doubled and people are on average driving more km per cap than they did in 1970. On a per capita basis the death rate is about 16% what it used to be. On a per km basis, 11%.
It’s been one of the real good news success stories, along with smoking reduction.

I’d estimate a good 90% of the reduction in fatalities is due to improved engineering of not only the cars themselves but also of the quality of the roads.
I’d also be comfortable in saying that the standards of driving have likely dropped.

I’d dare say that Random Breath Testing and the introduction of technology to test for alcohol has helped, too. Before 1970 people used to regularly drive whilst affected by alcohol.

Yep, sounds good.

Spiny Norman said:

they look happy.

Spiny Norman said:

LOL

20 g THC!

I wouldn’t mind having a few C-47’s – They are more commonly known to the average punter as a DC-3.
They’d be worth a mint now.

Spiny Norman said:

I wouldn’t mind having a few C-47’s – They are more commonly known to the average punter as a DC-3.
They’d be worth a mint now.

Also a Soviet copy built in large numbers too IIRC.

Spiny Norman said:

dv said:

Naturally dividing causality between road quality, car quality, policing, driver education, regulation etc would be difficult but the increase in road safety in Australia since 1970 has been amazing. There were 3798 road deaths in 1970, 1194 road deaths in 2022, despite the fact that the population has doubled and people are on average driving more km per cap than they did in 1970. On a per capita basis the death rate is about 16% what it used to be. On a per km basis, 11%.
It’s been one of the real good news success stories, along with smoking reduction.

I’d estimate a good 90% of the reduction in fatalities is due to improved engineering of not only the cars themselves but also of the quality of the roads.
I’d also be comfortable in saying that the standards of driving have likely dropped.

Maybe though I’d suspect that things such as excess speed and drink driving have gone down since 1970 mainly due to increased detection and enforcement

party_pants said:

Spiny Norman said:

I wouldn’t mind having a few C-47’s – They are more commonly known to the average punter as a DC-3.
They’d be worth a mint now.

Also a Soviet copy built in large numbers too IIRC.

I don’t think I’ve heard of that one, but I know they copied a B-29 that had to land in the USSR somewhere after a bombing raid over Japan. The engineers were instructed to copy the big plane exactly, and that’s what they did – It had some battle damage and a few holes in the skin had been patched up with a small sheet rivetted over the hole, and those repairs were also present in the copied plane even though they were totally unnecessary.
And that’s how the Tupolev Tu-4 came into being.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-4

dv said:

Spiny Norman said:

dv said:

Naturally dividing causality between road quality, car quality, policing, driver education, regulation etc would be difficult but the increase in road safety in Australia since 1970 has been amazing. There were 3798 road deaths in 1970, 1194 road deaths in 2022, despite the fact that the population has doubled and people are on average driving more km per cap than they did in 1970. On a per capita basis the death rate is about 16% what it used to be. On a per km basis, 11%.
It’s been one of the real good news success stories, along with smoking reduction.

I’d estimate a good 90% of the reduction in fatalities is due to improved engineering of not only the cars themselves but also of the quality of the roads.
I’d also be comfortable in saying that the standards of driving have likely dropped.

Maybe though I’d suspect that things such as excess speed and drink driving have gone down since 1970 mainly due to increased detection and enforcement

Quite possibly, but I’d still put my money on the engineers making the lion’s share of the difference. Take an average modern small car and an old (say, 1980’s) car and put them through the same crash and the people in the modern car are quite likely to be able to walk away from a very badly damaged car. But everyone in the old car would be very dead.

Spiny Norman said:

party_pants said:

Spiny Norman said:

I wouldn’t mind having a few C-47’s – They are more commonly known to the average punter as a DC-3.
They’d be worth a mint now.

Also a Soviet copy built in large numbers too IIRC.

I don’t think I’ve heard of that one, but I know they copied a B-29 that had to land in the USSR somewhere after a bombing raid over Japan. The engineers were instructed to copy the big plane exactly, and that’s what they did – It had some battle damage and a few holes in the skin had been patched up with a small sheet rivetted over the hole, and those repairs were also present in the copied plane even though they were totally unnecessary.
And that’s how the Tupolev Tu-4 came into being.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-4

Lisunov L1-2. a littler over 600 produced under licence.

party_pants said:

Spiny Norman said:

party_pants said:

Also a Soviet copy built in large numbers too IIRC.

I don’t think I’ve heard of that one, but I know they copied a B-29 that had to land in the USSR somewhere after a bombing raid over Japan. The engineers were instructed to copy the big plane exactly, and that’s what they did – It had some battle damage and a few holes in the skin had been patched up with a small sheet rivetted over the hole, and those repairs were also present in the copied plane even though they were totally unnecessary.
And that’s how the Tupolev Tu-4 came into being.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-4

Lisunov L1-2. a littler over 600 produced under licence.

Sorry Li-2

party_pants said:

Spiny Norman said:

party_pants said:

Also a Soviet copy built in large numbers too IIRC.

I don’t think I’ve heard of that one, but I know they copied a B-29 that had to land in the USSR somewhere after a bombing raid over Japan. The engineers were instructed to copy the big plane exactly, and that’s what they did – It had some battle damage and a few holes in the skin had been patched up with a small sheet rivetted over the hole, and those repairs were also present in the copied plane even though they were totally unnecessary.
And that’s how the Tupolev Tu-4 came into being.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-4

Lisunov L1-2. a littler over 600 produced under licence.

Wow! One of the many aircraft I have not heard of yet – Thanks!

party_pants said:

Spiny Norman said:

I don’t think I’ve heard of that one, but I know they copied a B-29 that had to land in the USSR somewhere after a bombing raid over Japan. The engineers were instructed to copy the big plane exactly, and that’s what they did – It had some battle damage and a few holes in the skin had been patched up with a small sheet rivetted over the hole, and those repairs were also present in the copied plane even though they were totally unnecessary.
And that’s how the Tupolev Tu-4 came into being.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-4

Lisunov L1-2. a littler over 600 produced under licence.

A real dog tho

Spiny Norman said:

dv said:

Spiny Norman said:

I’d estimate a good 90% of the reduction in fatalities is due to improved engineering of not only the cars themselves but also of the quality of the roads.
I’d also be comfortable in saying that the standards of driving have likely dropped.

Maybe though I’d suspect that things such as excess speed and drink driving have gone down since 1970 mainly due to increased detection and enforcement

Quite possibly, but I’d still put my money on the engineers making the lion’s share of the difference. Take an average modern small car and an old (say, 1980’s) car and put them through the same crash and the people in the modern car are quite likely to be able to walk away from a very badly damaged car. But everyone in the old car would be very dead.

Sure sure. Heck my vehicle was written off in a collision that would probably have killed me were I driving an EH Holden.

sarahs mum said:

You have got to laugh. :))

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

You have got to laugh. :))

Only 4 decades?

sarahs mum said:

:)

sarahs mum said:

Unfortunately all too correct. :(

Spiny Norman said:

LOL

Spiny Norman said:

OK, so I’ve done my own research on where the name Steely Dan came from, so now I have an explanation for the adults’ expressions, but I still don’t really see the point.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Spiny Norman said:

OK, so I’ve done my own research on where the name Steely Dan came from, so now I have an explanation for the adults’ expressions, but I still don’t really see the point.

IDGI either. Perhaps it’s just about ‘childsplaining’.

The protestors in the UK seem a bit more aggressive than here.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1705534083143495961

Witty Rejoinder said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Spiny Norman said:

OK, so I’ve done my own research on where the name Steely Dan came from, so now I have an explanation for the adults’ expressions, but I still don’t really see the point.

IDGI either. Perhaps it’s just about ‘childsplaining’.

yeah, or maybe a play on the children should be seen and not heard thing.

Spiny Norman said:

The protestors in the UK seem a bit more aggressive than here.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1705534083143495961

It’s all about proximity to France.

Spiny Norman said:

The protestors in the UK seem a bit more aggressive than here.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1705534083143495961

Un-called-for and awful.

Arts said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, so I’ve done my own research on where the name Steely Dan came from, so now I have an explanation for the adults’ expressions, but I still don’t really see the point.

IDGI either. Perhaps it’s just about ‘childsplaining’.

yeah, or maybe a play on the children should be seen and not heard thing.

I would suggest putting yourself in the position of the parents of Dennis the Menace after he explains to visitors where the name “Steely Dan” came from.

Spiny Norman said:

Roflmfao

Spiny Norman said:

OIC, the child is saying “that’s where they got the name Steely Dan from”. I was looking at the picture trying work it out.

Would have worked better with a speech bubble rather than a caption…. took me a while to work it out.

KJW said:

Arts said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

IDGI either. Perhaps it’s just about ‘childsplaining’.

yeah, or maybe a play on the children should be seen and not heard thing.

I would suggest putting yourself in the position of the parents of Dennis the Menace after he explains to visitors where the name “Steely Dan” came from.

I never watched that show… so it’s a Whoosh for me.. but, strangely, I don’t feel like I’ve missed out on anything..

Spiny Norman said:

The protestors in the UK seem a bit more aggressive than here.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1705534083143495961

You probably know this but this is a joke account, Sanford Police being from the movie Hot Fuzz.

Arts said:

KJW said:

Arts said:

yeah, or maybe a play on the children should be seen and not heard thing.

I would suggest putting yourself in the position of the parents of Dennis the Menace after he explains to visitors where the name “Steely Dan” came from.

I never watched that show… so it’s a Whoosh for me.. but, strangely, I don’t feel like I’ve missed out on anything..

I had a similar reaction.

dv said:

Spiny Norman said:

The protestors in the UK seem a bit more aggressive than here.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1705534083143495961

You probably know this but this is a joke account, Sanford Police being from the movie Hot Fuzz.

Yeah it is, but the video is unfortunately quite genuine.

Apologies if daz has already posted. I’ve looked back a bit but I’m not going all the way back.

OCDC said:

Apologies if daz has already posted. I’ve looked back a bit but I’m not going all the way back.

Ha

OCDC said:

Apologies if daz has already posted. I’ve looked back a bit but I’m not going all the way back.

LOL

Michael V said:

OCDC said:

Apologies if daz has already posted. I’ve looked back a bit but I’m not going all the way back.

LOL

:)

Witty Rejoinder said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Spiny Norman said:

OK, so I’ve done my own research on where the name Steely Dan came from, so now I have an explanation for the adults’ expressions, but I still don’t really see the point.

IDGI either. Perhaps it’s just about ‘childsplaining’.

Proper name of a steam powered dildo from the novel “Naked Lunch” by William S. Burroughs . Wiki

dv said:

Ethnic/Cultural Info
Red Granny Smith apples are a type of heritage or antique apple. Major grocery stores generally carry only a handful of apple varieties, many developed more recently. However, consumers are increasingly interested in older and harder to find varieties of apples discovered or developed before the last few decades, such as Red Granny Smith.

Geography/History
The Red Granny Smith was discovered by Herbert Batt, a timber mill worker in Western Australia. It was introduced to market in 1945 by H. Birmingham, a fruit grower near Perth, Australia. This apple grows best in warmer climates such as Australia, but can be grown with less success in the northern hemisphere.

Bogsnorkler said:

The things you learn here.

I had no idea that Wikipedia was the place to go for deep forbidden knowledge.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

The things you learn here.

I had no idea that Wikipedia was the place to go for deep forbidden knowledge.

the other place, and keep this to yourself, is Youtube.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

The things you learn here.

I had no idea that Wikipedia was the place to go for deep forbidden knowledge.

Not so much Wikipedia, but the real good stuff is hidden by little numbers in the text.

Witty Rejoinder said:

:)

Witty Rejoinder said:

Dear oh dear

Not one of her better days.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1706423851838759231

Bogsnorkler said:

:)

Bogsnorkler said:

LOLOLOL.

But oh-so-true.

Bogsnorkler said:

Love it.

:)

buffy said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Love it.

:)

i’m sure they’ll find a new target soon enough :)

Spiny Norman said:

Subtle I like it

Arts said:

It works. I for one will not be making any changes.

The Rev Dodgson said:

If only.

The Rev Dodgson said:

:)

Lovely.

:)

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

:)

Lovely.

:)

If only it wasn’t just a dream.

Morning pilgrims.
Nothing to report, over.

dv said:

:)

Bogsnorkler said:

Ah but if he was proper dumb all of them would have no name¡

You’d think they’d have a better title than that.

Stainless Steel Pedo Crowns
https://healthwareaustralia.com.au/product/mark3-stainless-steel-pedo-crowns-5box/

The poor lass seems to be a bit stressed when shopping.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1706997890541871304

But seriously – I hope she’s okay.

Seems a bit harsh.

Spiny Norman said:

Seems a bit harsh.

well, it is grifter dave’s page.

dv said:

I mean, George Glass!

kii said:

dv said:

I mean, George Glass!

dv said:

kii said:

dv said:

I mean, George Glass!

Sure, Jam!

sarahs mum said:

Heh.

sarahs mum said:

:)

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Heh.

I do find bluberries orgasmic in the mouth.

What happened to the fire danger warning image?
I downloaded it but the file is corrupt.
and it is not in this thread.

Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

that’s odd.

sarahs mum said:

Bogsnorkler said:

that’s odd.

WTF are them aminals?

Bogsnorkler said:

Why do I feel like I know these people?

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Bogsnorkler said:

that’s odd.

WTF are them aminals?

Capybara

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

that’s odd.

WTF are them aminals?

Capybara

That’s a view of them I hadn’t seen before then.

kii said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Why do I feel like I know these people?

They all look like your brother?

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

WTF are them aminals?

Capybara

That’s a view of them I hadn’t seen before then.

Look at the feet.

roughbarked said:

kii said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Why do I feel like I know these people?

They all look like your brother?

Nope, but I haven’t seen any of them for years.

Bogsnorkler said:

Bing couldn’t find that image, and Google did no better.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

kii said:

Why do I feel like I know these people?

They all look like your brother?

Nope, but I haven’t seen any of them for years.

They are domesticated haggis’

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Capybara

That’s a view of them I hadn’t seen before then.

Look at the feet.

:) well spotted.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

kii said:

Why do I feel like I know these people?

They all look like your brother?

Nope, but I haven’t seen any of them for years.

It was just a guess. ;)

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Bing couldn’t find that image, and Google did no better.

It’s old enough to be on AltaVista.

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Bing couldn’t find that image, and Google did no better.

It’s old enough to be on AltaVista.

Probably older than that. I’d ask Jeeve.

Bogsnorkler said:

What are the animals depicted there?

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bing couldn’t find that image, and Google did no better.

It’s old enough to be on AltaVista.

Probably older than that. I’d ask Jeeve.

Or Archie.

Bogsnorkler said:

I have told you what they are. it was from a funny page on FB.

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Bing couldn’t find that image, and Google did no better.

It’s old enough to be on AltaVista.

Bing and Google image search has been slashed in scope over the last few months- I won’t be surprised to see them disappear altogether soon, practically all of the searchs I have done recently went from hundreds of hits to ‘no images found’ being the most common result…

Bit of a pain, as I used them a lot to find manufacturers logos on IC’s for finding datasheets, but now its practically pointless doing so…

Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I have told you what they are. it was from a funny page on FB.

I said Capybara many posts ago.

boppa said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bing couldn’t find that image, and Google did no better.

It’s old enough to be on AltaVista.

Bing and Google image search has been slashed in scope over the last few months- I won’t be surprised to see them disappear altogether soon, practically all of the searchs I have done recently went from hundreds of hits to ‘no images found’ being the most common result…

Bit of a pain, as I used them a lot to find manufacturers logos on IC’s for finding datasheets, but now its practically pointless doing so…

Startpage has been my mainstay since the oncept.

Tamb said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I have told you what they are. it was from a funny page on FB.

I said Capybara many posts ago.

they aren’t those. they are haggis.

Tamb said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I have told you what they are. it was from a funny page on FB.

I said Capybara many posts ago.

Completely different snouts to capybara.

Bogsnorkler said:

Tamb said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I have told you what they are. it was from a funny page on FB.

I said Capybara many posts ago.

they aren’t those. they are haggis.

:) it all starts to make sense.

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I have told you what they are. it was from a funny page on FB.

I said Capybara many posts ago.

Completely different snouts to capybara.

OK. Hyrax then.

Cymek said:

There are fairy princesses wherever he looks. Not logging into the first one.

.

dv said:

.

Dear oh dear.

Bogsnorkler said:

Racing guineapigs?

PermeateFree said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Racing guineapigs?

No, i tried it once, but they couldn’t keep up with me, what with their little legs.

PermeateFree said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Racing guineapigs?

Haggis.

ABC News:

There’s a top contender for Worst-Kept Secret of 2023.

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

There’s a top contender for Worst-Kept Secret of 2023.

Bugger. And the government had just changed the law around this.

fsm said:

Obscure but funny.

fsm said:

For the benefit of anyone sharing my ignorance:

Orville Clarence Redenbacher (July 16, 1907 – September 19, 1995) was an American food scientist and businessman most often associated with the brand of popcorn that bears his name which is now owned by Conagra Brands. The New York Times described him as “the agricultural visionary who all but single

The Rev Dodgson said:

fsm said:

For the benefit of anyone sharing my ignorance:

Orville Clarence Redenbacher (July 16, 1907 – September 19, 1995) was an American food scientist and businessman most often associated with the brand of popcorn that bears his name which is now owned by Conagra Brands. The New York Times described him as “the agricultural visionary who all but single

Just think how much more he could have accomplished if he had single.

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

There’s a top contender for Worst-Kept Secret of 2023.

Damn

Who knows the relevant song?

Kingy said:

Who knows the relevant song?

I do.

Bogsnorkler said:

Kingy said:

Who knows the relevant song?

I do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9t-slLl30E

Link

Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Kingy said:

Who knows the relevant song?

I do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9t-slLl30E

Link

Wow, 145m views already. It was very well done. I’m surprised that Disney hasn’t issued a take-down notice, or demanded some of the $3 in Youtube payments.

Kingy said:

Who knows the relevant song?

Seems to be a mash up of two unrelated songs…

Kingy said:

K9 head

dv said:

Kingy said:

K9 head

Funny, that was my first thought…

Kingy said:

Never meet your heroes

Kingy said:

Heh

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yeah mum. Stop reading me BS tales.

dv said:

Huh, what?

Bogsnorkler said:

Ha!

:)

dv said:

I feel bad that their education system failed them so hard when I see stuff like this

Bogsnorkler said:

Likely.

Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Likely.

It’s funny how Spud has become so keen on details since he ceased to be part of a government which was notably reluctant about giving out details. Or information, in general.

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Likely.

It’s funny how Spud has become so keen on details since he ceased to be part of a government which was notably reluctant about giving out details. Or information, in general.

Yeah.

Pollies can be like that.

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Likely.

It’s funny how Spud has become so keen on details since he ceased to be part of a government which was notably reluctant about giving out details. Or information, in general.

Kingy said:

pay that.

Original Windows installation lube.

fsm said:

:(

fsm said:

By coincidence, we just had a nice 1970s acoustic guitar we found in a secondhand shop repaired for Spalding Jr. It had exactly that problem with the bridge.

Arts said:

Ha!

Arts said:

It’s a car beetle.

Arts said:

:)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jho8oBteVzA?feature=share

Bogsnorkler said:

wow

Bogsnorkler said:

***snort***

kii said:

Bogsnorkler said:

***snort***

:)

True story.

Spiny Norman said:

True story.

LOL

dv said:

Bogsnorkler said:

wow

Let us show you a better retort.

MV, Bill,

You’ll love this:

I miss my dogs.

fsm said:

I had to look that one up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/bx57u2/imagine_the_troubles_she_has_introducing_herself/

fsm said:

In French her name is so good you have to say it twice.

Spiny Norman said:

fsm said:

I had to look that one up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/bx57u2/imagine_the_troubles_she_has_introducing_herself/

It would be an amusing way for her to introduce herself, if she chose the right occasions.

She could use ‘moi, c’est Gemma Pell’ or ‘je suis Gemma Pell’ (I’m Gemma Pell).

Or ‘bonjour, je me présente. Je m’appelle Gemma Pell. Mon prénom est Gemma, et mon sur nom de famille est Pell’. (Good day, i introduce myself. My name is Gemma Pell. My first name is Gemma, and my last name is Pell). Awkward, probably more formal occasions, or addressing a group.

Or

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

fsm said:

I had to look that one up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/bx57u2/imagine_the_troubles_she_has_introducing_herself/

It would be an amusing way for her to introduce herself, if she chose the right occasions.

She could use ‘moi, c’est Gemma Pell’ or ‘je suis Gemma Pell’ (I’m Gemma Pell).

Or ‘bonjour, je me présente. Je m’appelle Gemma Pell. Mon prénom est Gemma, et mon sur nom de famille est Pell’. (Good day, i introduce myself. My name is Gemma Pell. My first name is Gemma, and my last name is Pell). Awkward, probably more formal occasions, or addressing a group.

Or

I did operate out of CDG in Paris for a month or so, but didn’t try to pick up much of the language. We were flying for Air France and all too often the French controllers would use French when talking to us. None of our flight crew spoke French so they’d have to call us again in French but with a bit of anger in the tone, then when we didn’t reply they’d try again in English and a little more agro as well.
That worked.

fsm said:

I was just thinking about this yesterday

Ouch

Cymek said:

Ouch

Love and other moments are just chemical reactions in your brain, and feelings of aggression are the absence of the love drug in your viens.

Not the brightest move.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1708855882342346843

Spiny Norman said:

Not the brightest move.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1708855882342346843

far out.

more time needed in science classes.

Bogsnorkler said:

“but when are you going to do something with your life?”

sarahs mum said:

Bogsnorkler said:

“but when are you going to do something with your life?”

good job his mum loves him though she might not understand what he does.

Bogsnorkler said:

sarahs mum said:

Bogsnorkler said:

“but when are you going to do something with your life?”

good job his mum loves him though she might not understand what he does.

nods.

One for you Sibeen, wherever you are.

sædcellecykel

Bogsnorkler said:

I worried for the longest time about my mother’s ritual shutting of windows so the giraffes didn’t get in.

Bogsnorkler said:

sædcellecykel

?

dv said:

Bogsnorkler said:

sædcellecykel

?

The Spermbike in for service. As a sidenote, spermbike (sædcellecykel) became an official danish word back in 2012, due to this magic bike.

Bogsnorkler said:

dv said:

Bogsnorkler said:

sædcellecykel

?

The Spermbike in for service. As a sidenote, spermbike (sædcellecykel) became an official danish word back in 2012, due to this magic bike.

On route to the next destination?

monkey skipper said:

Bogsnorkler said:

dv said:

?

The Spermbike in for service. As a sidenote, spermbike (sædcellecykel) became an official danish word back in 2012, due to this magic bike.

On route to the next destination?

a sacred duty…

Bogsnorkler said:

monkey skipper said:

Bogsnorkler said:

The Spermbike in for service. As a sidenote, spermbike (sædcellecykel) became an official danish word back in 2012, due to this magic bike.

On route to the next destination?

a sacred duty…

can’t they just get a room?

party_pants said:

Bogsnorkler said:

monkey skipper said:

On route to the next destination?

a sacred duty…

can’t they just get a room?

a womb you say?

Bogsnorkler said:

party_pants said:

Bogsnorkler said:

a sacred duty…

can’t they just get a room?

a womb you say?

suppresses laughter

Unconfirmed if true.
Confirmed for amusement though.

Spiny Norman said:

Unconfirmed if true.
Confirmed for amusement though.

it seems true except for the eating him bit.

Bogsnorkler said:

¡‘ice pic’!

Spiny Norman said:

Or maybe

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-04/road-safety-history-australia-toll-increase/102903364

Mr Weir believes Australians have “lost a bit of patience”. “We’ve lost some manners as a society and certainly as road users,” he says. And he says there’s a chance the pandemic is partly to blame. “I think there’s a bit of in-built arrogance that seems to be prevalent in a lot of people … whether it’s a reaction to lockdowns and COVID-19 restrictions, I don’t know.”

just maybe it’s a consequence of them amplifying the anti public health fascists, just a thought, we fucking know how this works.

Emotional support alligator denied entry to baseball park
While some emotional support animal claims aren’t backed up, WallyGator is actually a working emotional support alligator registered to a man in Pennsylvania.

https://www.9news.com/article/news/nation-world/phillies-deny-emotional-support-alligator-entry-to-game

Bogsnorkler said:

Spiny Norman said:

Unconfirmed if true.
Confirmed for amusement though.

it seems true except for the eating him bit.

Might have chewed him a couple of times but as a vegetarian, I doubt there was any more than that.

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Spiny Norman said:

Unconfirmed if true.
Confirmed for amusement though.

it seems true except for the eating him bit.

Might have chewed him a couple of times but as a vegetarian, I doubt there was any more than that.

Maybe 6 years of watching humans turned it into an omnivore.

Spiny Norman said:

Emotional support alligator denied entry to baseball park
While some emotional support animal claims aren’t backed up, WallyGator is actually a working emotional support alligator registered to a man in Pennsylvania.

https://www.9news.com/article/news/nation-world/phillies-deny-emotional-support-alligator-entry-to-game

Can i take my emotional-support machine gun onto an airliner?

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Emotional support alligator denied entry to baseball park
While some emotional support animal claims aren’t backed up, WallyGator is actually a working emotional support alligator registered to a man in Pennsylvania.

https://www.9news.com/article/news/nation-world/phillies-deny-emotional-support-alligator-entry-to-game

Can i take my emotional-support machine gun onto an airliner?

No, but I heard about a bloke who nearly got a chainsaw on with him.
Most likely bulldust though.

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Emotional support alligator denied entry to baseball park
While some emotional support animal claims aren’t backed up, WallyGator is actually a working emotional support alligator registered to a man in Pennsylvania.

https://www.9news.com/article/news/nation-world/phillies-deny-emotional-support-alligator-entry-to-game

Can i take my emotional-support machine gun onto an airliner?

Ha!

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Emotional support alligator denied entry to baseball park
While some emotional support animal claims aren’t backed up, WallyGator is actually a working emotional support alligator registered to a man in Pennsylvania.

https://www.9news.com/article/news/nation-world/phillies-deny-emotional-support-alligator-entry-to-game

Can i take my emotional-support machine gun onto an airliner?

No, but I heard about a bloke who nearly got a chainsaw on with him.
Most likely bulldust though.

A large sign in the old Brisbane cruise ship terminal listed the things that passengers could not take aboard.

It included ‘flamethrowers of a military design’.

Presumably, if you could demonstrate that it was your own design , or made by e.g. Black and Decker, it was ok. Which is nice, as i’ve always found that a cruise just isn’t the same without your flamethrower.

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

Can i take my emotional-support machine gun onto an airliner?

No, but I heard about a bloke who nearly got a chainsaw on with him.
Most likely bulldust though.

A large sign in the old Brisbane cruise ship terminal listed the things that passengers could not take aboard.

It included ‘flamethrowers of a military design’.

Presumably, if you could demonstrate that it was your own design , or made by e.g. Black and Decker, it was ok. Which is nice, as i’ve always found that a cruise just isn’t the same without your flamethrower.

That does in fact align with my thoughts on afterburners, a similar device.

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

No, but I heard about a bloke who nearly got a chainsaw on with him.
Most likely bulldust though.

A large sign in the old Brisbane cruise ship terminal listed the things that passengers could not take aboard.

It included ‘flamethrowers of a military design’.

Presumably, if you could demonstrate that it was your own design , or made by e.g. Black and Decker, it was ok. Which is nice, as i’ve always found that a cruise just isn’t the same without your flamethrower.

That does in fact align with my thoughts on afterburners, a similar device.

I do wonder about the circumstances that caused them to think that it was necessary to include flamethrowers on the sign.

“Don’t forget to put ‘flamethrowers’ in the list. I am so sick and tired of telling people that they can’t bring their army-disposals flamethrower aboard. Every turn-around, there’s at least a dozen. And the arguments about whether or not projecting long jets of ignited thickened gasoline about the ship is really a hazard!”

Bogsnorkler said:

Oh, great.

Scaredketchup at work on Trump again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq8KT9hR0DE

Bogsnorkler said:

Faark!

Bogsnorkler said:

I hate him. He’s a fucking dangerous criminal.

Bogsnorkler said:

scum.

Bogsnorkler said:

Don’t rush out to buy a copy.

Wait until it hits the ‘remaindered’ tables a about $2.95 a copy.

Should be about next Monday afternoon, Tuesday at the latest.

captain_spalding said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Don’t rush out to buy a copy.

Wait until it hits the ‘remaindered’ tables a about $2.95 a copy.

Should be about next Monday afternoon, Tuesday at the latest.

:) Does he have five ministries of the Lord?

sarahs mum said:

Bogsnorkler said:

scum.

I wish he’d fuck off, and die.

captain_spalding said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Don’t rush out to buy a copy.

Wait until it hits the ‘remaindered’ tables a about $2.95 a copy.

Should be about next Monday afternoon, Tuesday at the latest.

Ha!

:)

kii said:

sarahs mum said:

Bogsnorkler said:

scum.

I wish he’d fuck off, and die.

Not live long and prosper then ?

ABC News:

Magarita Simonyan usually talks nothing but half-witted inflammatory propagandistic fictional twaddle, but i find my self in agreement with her on this.

And i know just where they should explode it.

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

Magarita Simonyan usually talks nothing but half-witted inflammatory propagandistic fictional twaddle, but i find my self in agreement with her on this.

And i know just where they should explode it.

It’s a worry if a nuclear weapon is used (obviously) you assume it wouldn’t just stop at one or a few and would turn into a tit for tat usage.

captain_spalding said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Don’t rush out to buy a copy.

Wait until it hits the ‘remaindered’ tables a about $2.95 a copy.

Should be about next Monday afternoon, Tuesday at the latest.

Nah pay what it’s worth at zlibrary.

Cymek said:

It’s a worry if a nuclear weapon is used (obviously) you assume it wouldn’t just stop at one or a few and would turn into a tit for tat usage.

Definitely.

Although, the Russians might be a bit more wary of such an exchange than they may have been in the past.

The Americans readily admit that keeping their nuclear arsenal, much of which is decades old, in operating condition is a full-time job, and getting more difficult all the time.

If that’s the case, i doubt that Putin could be confident that many (any?) of his bombs will actually work, after the examples of failure of the Russian military and its equipment in Ukraine after years of neglect, apathy, theft, and corruption.

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

Magarita Simonyan usually talks nothing but half-witted inflammatory propagandistic fictional twaddle, but i find my self in agreement with her on this.

And i know just where they should explode it.

In Poo-tin’s den?

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

Magarita Simonyan usually talks nothing but half-witted inflammatory propagandistic fictional twaddle, but i find my self in agreement with her on this.

And i know just where they should explode it.

In Poo-tin’s den?

Wouldn’t it solve so many problems, for so many people everywhere, including Russia?

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

It’s a worry if a nuclear weapon is used (obviously) you assume it wouldn’t just stop at one or a few and would turn into a tit for tat usage.

Definitely.

Although, the Russians might be a bit more wary of such an exchange than they may have been in the past.

The Americans readily admit that keeping their nuclear arsenal, much of which is decades old, in operating condition is a full-time job, and getting more difficult all the time.

If that’s the case, i doubt that Putin could be confident that many (any?) of his bombs will actually work, after the examples of failure of the Russian military and its equipment in Ukraine after years of neglect, apathy, theft, and corruption.

Yes. They probably sold it all to North Korea.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

Magarita Simonyan usually talks nothing but half-witted inflammatory propagandistic fictional twaddle, but i find my self in agreement with her on this.

And i know just where they should explode it.

In Poo-tin’s den?

Wouldn’t it solve so many problems, for so many people everywhere, including Russia?

Indeed it would kick the shit-can out.

Cymek said:

kii said:

sarahs mum said:

scum.

I wish he’d fuck off, and die.

Not live long and prosper then ?

He touched that young pregnant woman, and others, during the bushfires, laying his hands on people. I hope he fails at every single thing for the rest of his putrid life.

kii said:

Cymek said:

kii said:

I wish he’d fuck off, and die.

Not live long and prosper then ?

He touched that young pregnant woman, and others, during the bushfires, laying his hands on people. I hope he fails at every single thing for the rest of his putrid life.

It seems to be a thing strangers do to pregnant women touch their belly, it’s damn weird and creepy

Cymek said:

kii said:

Cymek said:

Not live long and prosper then ?

He touched that young pregnant woman, and others, during the bushfires, laying his hands on people. I hope he fails at every single thing for the rest of his putrid life.

It seems to be a thing strangers do to pregnant women touch their belly, it’s damn weird and creepy

This was more than that. He actually said afterwards that he lays hands on people as part of his religious creepy self.

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

Magarita Simonyan usually talks nothing but half-witted inflammatory propagandistic fictional twaddle, but i find my self in agreement with her on this.

And i know just where they should explode it.

It’s a worry if a nuclear weapon is used (obviously) you assume it wouldn’t just stop at one or a few and would turn into a tit for tat usage.

Firstly they are talking about resuming testing and secondly I very much doubt that if Russia used a nuclear weapon in Ukraine that it would solicit any nuclear response from NATO.

kii said:

Cymek said:

kii said:

He touched that young pregnant woman, and others, during the bushfires, laying his hands on people. I hope he fails at every single thing for the rest of his putrid life.

It seems to be a thing strangers do to pregnant women touch their belly, it’s damn weird and creepy

This was more than that. He actually said afterwards that he lays hands on people as part of his religious creepy self.

An excuse to be lecherous, not sure if men should be touching anyone without permission even if its to comfort them, family perhaps excluded.

diddly-squat said:

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

Magarita Simonyan usually talks nothing but half-witted inflammatory propagandistic fictional twaddle, but i find my self in agreement with her on this.

And i know just where they should explode it.

It’s a worry if a nuclear weapon is used (obviously) you assume it wouldn’t just stop at one or a few and would turn into a tit for tat usage.

Firstly they are talking about resuming testing and secondly I very much doubt that if Russia used a nuclear weapon in Ukraine that it would solicit any nuclear response from NATO.

That seems to be an issue doesn’t it, it’s not like using one in retaliation could in anyway make the situation better.

Cymek said:

kii said:

Cymek said:

It seems to be a thing strangers do to pregnant women touch their belly, it’s damn weird and creepy

This was more than that. He actually said afterwards that he lays hands on people as part of his religious creepy self.

An excuse to be lecherous, not sure if men should be touching anyone without permission even if its to comfort them, family perhaps excluded.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jan/02/scott-morrison-abused-by-bushfire-victims-in-nsw-town-of-cobargo

The “laying of hands” bullshit came out afterwards as the dickhead tried to justify his shit.

kii said:

Cymek said:

kii said:

He touched that young pregnant woman, and others, during the bushfires, laying his hands on people. I hope he fails at every single thing for the rest of his putrid life.

It seems to be a thing strangers do to pregnant women touch their belly, it’s damn weird and creepy

This was more than that. He actually said afterwards that he lays hands on people as part of his religious creepy self.

The baby had to do counselling afterwards to cope with the trauma.

Cymek said:

diddly-squat said:

Cymek said:

It’s a worry if a nuclear weapon is used (obviously) you assume it wouldn’t just stop at one or a few and would turn into a tit for tat usage.

Firstly they are talking about resuming testing and secondly I very much doubt that if Russia used a nuclear weapon in Ukraine that it would solicit any nuclear response from NATO.

That seems to be an issue doesn’t it, it’s not like using one in retaliation could in anyway make the situation better.

it’s more than that.. NATO is a defensive alliance, their charter states that they can only respond in instances of aggression against NATO countries. If Russia were to, for instance, use a tactical nuclear device on the battle field, any country that offered a nuclear response (be it the US, the UK or France) would essentially be directly entering the war. This won’t happen.

From what I’ve read, the US is also very hesitant to assist Ukraine take back Crimea and would likely not provide intelligence to assist a ground invasion. The common held belief is that this is the red line that if crosses could trigger Russia to do something seriously stupid.

diddly-squat said:

Cymek said:

diddly-squat said:

Firstly they are talking about resuming testing and secondly I very much doubt that if Russia used a nuclear weapon in Ukraine that it would solicit any nuclear response from NATO.

That seems to be an issue doesn’t it, it’s not like using one in retaliation could in anyway make the situation better.

it’s more than that.. NATO is a defensive alliance, their charter states that they can only respond in instances of aggression against NATO countries. If Russia were to, for instance, use a tactical nuclear device on the battle field, any country that offered a nuclear response (be it the US, the UK or France) would essentially be directly entering the war. This won’t happen.

From what I’ve read, the US is also very hesitant to assist Ukraine take back Crimea and would likely not provide intelligence to assist a ground invasion. The common held belief is that this is the red line that if crosses could trigger Russia to do something seriously stupid.

It wouldn’t be in Russia’s interest to nuke the area.

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

Cymek said:

That seems to be an issue doesn’t it, it’s not like using one in retaliation could in anyway make the situation better.

it’s more than that.. NATO is a defensive alliance, their charter states that they can only respond in instances of aggression against NATO countries. If Russia were to, for instance, use a tactical nuclear device on the battle field, any country that offered a nuclear response (be it the US, the UK or France) would essentially be directly entering the war. This won’t happen.

From what I’ve read, the US is also very hesitant to assist Ukraine take back Crimea and would likely not provide intelligence to assist a ground invasion. The common held belief is that this is the red line that if crosses could trigger Russia to do something seriously stupid.

It wouldn’t be in Russia’s interest to nuke the area.

I certainty would put it past them to use a tactical nuclear device against an attacking force in Crimea

diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

it’s more than that.. NATO is a defensive alliance, their charter states that they can only respond in instances of aggression against NATO countries. If Russia were to, for instance, use a tactical nuclear device on the battle field, any country that offered a nuclear response (be it the US, the UK or France) would essentially be directly entering the war. This won’t happen.

From what I’ve read, the US is also very hesitant to assist Ukraine take back Crimea and would likely not provide intelligence to assist a ground invasion. The common held belief is that this is the red line that if crosses could trigger Russia to do something seriously stupid.

It wouldn’t be in Russia’s interest to nuke the area.

I certainty would put it past them to use a tactical nuclear device against an attacking force in Crimea

Though it would dirty the place up for a while.

Do we need a Jordan Peterson Is Well thread?

dv said:

Do we need a Jordan Peterson Is Well thread?

Never heard of him until now.

dv said:

Do we need a Jordan Peterson Is Well thread?

Reading TATE on Peterson I discovered that he considers himself a Christian atheist, which seems a little strange.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Do we need a Jordan Peterson Is Well thread?

Reading TATE on Peterson I discovered that he considers himself a Christian atheist, which seems a little strange.

How can he be both?
Agnostic perhaps?

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Do we need a Jordan Peterson Is Well thread?

Reading TATE on Peterson I discovered that he considers himself a Christian atheist, which seems a little strange.

How can he be both?
Agnostic perhaps?

“In a 2017 interview, Peterson was asked if he was a Christian; he responded, “I suppose the most straight-forward answer to that is yes.” When asked if he believes in God, Peterson responded: “I think the proper response to that is no, but I’m afraid He might exist.”

Perhaps “smart-arse” would be a better category.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Reading TATE on Peterson I discovered that he considers himself a Christian atheist, which seems a little strange.

How can he be both?
Agnostic perhaps?

“In a 2017 interview, Peterson was asked if he was a Christian; he responded, “I suppose the most straight-forward answer to that is yes.” When asked if he believes in God, Peterson responded: “I think the proper response to that is no, but I’m afraid He might exist.”

Perhaps “smart-arse” would be a better category.

Maybe he is saying he believes in Christian principles but is dubious about God.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Reading TATE on Peterson I discovered that he considers himself a Christian atheist, which seems a little strange.

How can he be both?
Agnostic perhaps?

“In a 2017 interview, Peterson was asked if he was a Christian; he responded, “I suppose the most straight-forward answer to that is yes.” When asked if he believes in God, Peterson responded: “I think the proper response to that is no, but I’m afraid He might exist.”

Perhaps “smart-arse” would be a better category.

Dumb-arse seems more appropriate.

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

How can he be both?
Agnostic perhaps?

“In a 2017 interview, Peterson was asked if he was a Christian; he responded, “I suppose the most straight-forward answer to that is yes.” When asked if he believes in God, Peterson responded: “I think the proper response to that is no, but I’m afraid He might exist.”

Perhaps “smart-arse” would be a better category.

Maybe he is saying he believes in Christian principles but is dubious about God.

Well that’s a pretty smart-arse thing to say, isn’t it.

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

How can he be both?
Agnostic perhaps?

“In a 2017 interview, Peterson was asked if he was a Christian; he responded, “I suppose the most straight-forward answer to that is yes.” When asked if he believes in God, Peterson responded: “I think the proper response to that is no, but I’m afraid He might exist.”

Perhaps “smart-arse” would be a better category.

Dumb-arse seems more appropriate.

Depends whether the descriptor is based on how he is trying to appear, or how he does appear.

But I thought you’d be a supporter.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

“In a 2017 interview, Peterson was asked if he was a Christian; he responded, “I suppose the most straight-forward answer to that is yes.” When asked if he believes in God, Peterson responded: “I think the proper response to that is no, but I’m afraid He might exist.”

Perhaps “smart-arse” would be a better category.

Dumb-arse seems more appropriate.

Depends whether the descriptor is based on how he is trying to appear, or how he does appear.

But I thought you’d be a supporter.

You think I’m an idiot conservative?

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Do we need a Jordan Peterson Is Well thread?

Reading TATE on Peterson I discovered that he considers himself a Christian atheist, which seems a little strange.

Only disbelieves Christians religious figures ?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

“In a 2017 interview, Peterson was asked if he was a Christian; he responded, “I suppose the most straight-forward answer to that is yes.” When asked if he believes in God, Peterson responded: “I think the proper response to that is no, but I’m afraid He might exist.”

Perhaps “smart-arse” would be a better category.

Maybe he is saying he believes in Christian principles but is dubious about God.

Well that’s a pretty smart-arse thing to say, isn’t it.

The god belief is weird anyway, a sufficiently advanced civilisations are essentially god like.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

“In a 2017 interview, Peterson was asked if he was a Christian; he responded, “I suppose the most straight-forward answer to that is yes.” When asked if he believes in God, Peterson responded: “I think the proper response to that is no, but I’m afraid He might exist.”

Perhaps “smart-arse” would be a better category.

Maybe he is saying he believes in Christian principles but is dubious about God.

Well that’s a pretty smart-arse thing to say, isn’t it.

It seems entirely consistent with the Christian fear of God.