Before the death of Princess Di, in 1997.

What was the last murder in the British royal family?

It was 1936. Yes, that recently. To be precise on 20 January 1936.

King George V. The QE2’s grandfather.

After dinner, the King’s doctor, Lord Dawson of Penn, injected a “massive dose of morphine and cocaine into the King’s jugular vein”.
He died at 5 minutes to 12.
“The timing of the lethal dose” was to make the death occur just before the deadline for publication in the Times newspaper.

King George V had fallen ill with “bronchial catarrh” and the doctor was called on 17 Jan 1936. The catarrh was described as “not serious”, and was not getting worse.

Who arranged the murder? My source doesn’t say. It does say that the Archbishop of Canterbury was not present at the time of the fatal injection. And it does say that Queen Mary and eldest son Edward Prince of Wales were closeted with Dr Dawson shortly before the death.

Later in that year, “Dawson was created a viscount, an award that established to going rate for regicide”.

The follow up of that was, of course, that bloodless coup in the British Royal family known as the abdication. Edward VIII, as he was then, was kicked off the throne following a campaign that began at least as early as the beginning of October 1936. He was gone in December 1936. Edward’s younger brother Albert changed his name to George and became George VI, the QE2’s father.

So we’re left with two possibilities. Either Edward had a role in his father’s murder and was kicked off the throne because of it. Or the QE2’s parents had a role in George V’s murder and Edward VIII was the scapegoat.

So, was 1936 the most recent murder of the member of a proper royal family? (Not counting the death of Kim Il Sung in 1994).

mollwollfumble said:

Before the death of Princess Di, in 1997.

What was the last murder in the British royal family?

It was 1936. Yes, that recently. To be precise on 20 January 1936.

King George V. The QE2’s grandfather.

After dinner, the King’s doctor, Lord Dawson of Penn, injected a “massive dose of morphine and cocaine into the King’s jugular vein”.
He died at 5 minutes to 12.
“The timing of the lethal dose” was to make the death occur just before the deadline for publication in the Times newspaper.

King George V had fallen ill with “bronchial catarrh” and the doctor was called on 17 Jan 1936. The catarrh was described as “not serious”, and was not getting worse.

Who arranged the murder? My source doesn’t say. It does say that the Archbishop of Canterbury was not present at the time of the fatal injection. And it does say that Queen Mary and eldest son Edward Prince of Wales were closeted with Dr Dawson shortly before the death.

Later in that year, “Dawson was created a viscount, an award that established to going rate for regicide”.

The follow up of that was, of course, that bloodless coup in the British Royal family known as the abdication. Edward VIII, as he was then, was kicked off the throne following a campaign that began at least as early as the beginning of October 1936. He was gone in December 1936. Edward’s younger brother Albert changed his name to George and became George VI, the QE2’s father.

So we’re left with two possibilities. Either Edward had a role in his father’s murder and was kicked off the throne because of it. Or the QE2’s parents had a role in George V’s murder and Edward VIII was the scapegoat.

So, was 1936 the most recent murder of the member of a proper royal family? (Not counting the death of Kim Il Sung in 1994).

You’re an idiot.

mollwollfumble said:

Before the death of Princess Di, in 1997.

What was the last murder in the British royal family?

It was 1936. Yes, that recently. To be precise on 20 January 1936.

King George V. The QE2’s grandfather.

After dinner, the King’s doctor, Lord Dawson of Penn, injected a “massive dose of morphine and cocaine into the King’s jugular vein”.
He died at 5 minutes to 12.
“The timing of the lethal dose” was to make the death occur just before the deadline for publication in the Times newspaper.

King George V had fallen ill with “bronchial catarrh” and the doctor was called on 17 Jan 1936. The catarrh was described as “not serious”, and was not getting worse.

Who arranged the murder? My source doesn’t say. It does say that the Archbishop of Canterbury was not present at the time of the fatal injection. And it does say that Queen Mary and eldest son Edward Prince of Wales were closeted with Dr Dawson shortly before the death.

Later in that year, “Dawson was created a viscount, an award that established to going rate for regicide”.

The follow up of that was, of course, that bloodless coup in the British Royal family known as the abdication. Edward VIII, as he was then, was kicked off the throne following a campaign that began at least as early as the beginning of October 1936. He was gone in December 1936. Edward’s younger brother Albert changed his name to George and became George VI, the QE2’s father.

So we’re left with two possibilities. Either Edward had a role in his father’s murder and was kicked off the throne because of it. Or the QE2’s parents had a role in George V’s murder and Edward VIII was the scapegoat.

So, was 1936 the most recent murder of the member of a proper royal family? (Not counting the death of Kim Il Sung in 1994).

Seems this is a legal question, and I’m not and expert on British law as it existed in the 1930s.

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Before the death of Princess Di, in 1997.

What was the last murder in the British royal family?

It was 1936. Yes, that recently. To be precise on 20 January 1936.

King George V. The QE2’s grandfather.

After dinner, the King’s doctor, Lord Dawson of Penn, injected a “massive dose of morphine and cocaine into the King’s jugular vein”.
He died at 5 minutes to 12.
“The timing of the lethal dose” was to make the death occur just before the deadline for publication in the Times newspaper.

King George V had fallen ill with “bronchial catarrh” and the doctor was called on 17 Jan 1936. The catarrh was described as “not serious”, and was not getting worse.

Who arranged the murder? My source doesn’t say. It does say that the Archbishop of Canterbury was not present at the time of the fatal injection. And it does say that Queen Mary and eldest son Edward Prince of Wales were closeted with Dr Dawson shortly before the death.

Later in that year, “Dawson was created a viscount, an award that established to going rate for regicide”.

The follow up of that was, of course, that bloodless coup in the British Royal family known as the abdication. Edward VIII, as he was then, was kicked off the throne following a campaign that began at least as early as the beginning of October 1936. He was gone in December 1936. Edward’s younger brother Albert changed his name to George and became George VI, the QE2’s father.

So we’re left with two possibilities. Either Edward had a role in his father’s murder and was kicked off the throne because of it. Or the QE2’s parents had a role in George V’s murder and Edward VIII was the scapegoat.

So, was 1936 the most recent murder of the member of a proper royal family? (Not counting the death of Kim Il Sung in 1994).

Seems this is a legal question, and I’m not and expert on British law as it existed in the 1930s.

Moll’s sources are highly questionable, as is to be expected.

The standard account is that George was very close to death and the final injection just provided a peaceful and timely passage.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

Before the death of Princess Di, in 1997.

What was the last murder in the British royal family?

It was 1936. Yes, that recently. To be precise on 20 January 1936.

King George V. The QE2’s grandfather.

After dinner, the King’s doctor, Lord Dawson of Penn, injected a “massive dose of morphine and cocaine into the King’s jugular vein”.
He died at 5 minutes to 12.
“The timing of the lethal dose” was to make the death occur just before the deadline for publication in the Times newspaper.

King George V had fallen ill with “bronchial catarrh” and the doctor was called on 17 Jan 1936. The catarrh was described as “not serious”, and was not getting worse.

Who arranged the murder? My source doesn’t say. It does say that the Archbishop of Canterbury was not present at the time of the fatal injection. And it does say that Queen Mary and eldest son Edward Prince of Wales were closeted with Dr Dawson shortly before the death.

Later in that year, “Dawson was created a viscount, an award that established to going rate for regicide”.

The follow up of that was, of course, that bloodless coup in the British Royal family known as the abdication. Edward VIII, as he was then, was kicked off the throne following a campaign that began at least as early as the beginning of October 1936. He was gone in December 1936. Edward’s younger brother Albert changed his name to George and became George VI, the QE2’s father.

So we’re left with two possibilities. Either Edward had a role in his father’s murder and was kicked off the throne because of it. Or the QE2’s parents had a role in George V’s murder and Edward VIII was the scapegoat.

So, was 1936 the most recent murder of the member of a proper royal family? (Not counting the death of Kim Il Sung in 1994).

Seems this is a legal question, and I’m not and expert on British law as it existed in the 1930s.

Moll’s sources are highly questionable, as is to be expected.

The standard account is that George was very close to death and the final injection just provided a peaceful and timely passage.

A little more remote but the death of Field Marshal Kitchener in 1915 was a big ticket item.

Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Seems this is a legal question, and I’m not and expert on British law as it existed in the 1930s.

Moll’s sources are highly questionable, as is to be expected.

The standard account is that George was very close to death and the final injection just provided a peaceful and timely passage.

A little more remote but the death of Field Marshal Kitchener in 1915 was a big ticket item.

Half the Nepalese royal family were killed by the Crown Prince in 2001:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepalese_royal_massacre

Wiki supports Moll’s proposition.

“By 20 January, George was close to death. His physicians, led by Lord Dawson of Penn, issued a bulletin with the words “The King’s life is moving peacefully towards its close.” Dawson’s private diary, unearthed after his death and made public in 1986, reveals that George’s last words, a mumbled “God damn you!”, were addressed to his nurse, Catherine Black, when she gave him a sedative that night. Dawson, who supported the “gentle growth of euthanasia”, admitted in the diary that he ended the King’s life:

At about 11 o’clock it was evident that the last stage might endure for many hours, unknown to the Patient but little comporting with that dignity and serenity which he so richly merited and which demanded a brief final scene. Hours of waiting just for the mechanical end when all that is really life has departed only exhausts the onlookers & keeps them so strained that they cannot avail themselves of the solace of thought, communion or prayer. I therefore decided to determine the end and injected (myself) morphia gr.3/4 and shortly afterwards cocaine gr.1 into the distended jugular vein … In about 1/4 an hour – breathing quieter – appearance more placid – physical struggle gone.

Dawson wrote that he acted to preserve the King’s dignity, to prevent further strain on the family, and so that George’s death at 11:55 pm could be announced in the morning edition of The Times newspaper rather than “less appropriate … evening journals”. Neither Queen Mary, who was intensely religious and might not have sanctioned euthanasia, nor the Prince of Wales was consulted. The royal family did not want the King to endure pain and suffering and did not want his life prolonged artificially but neither did they approve Dawson’s actions.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_V#Declining_health_and_death

Witty Rejoinder said:

Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

Moll’s sources are highly questionable, as is to be expected.

The standard account is that George was very close to death and the final injection just provided a peaceful and timely passage.

A little more remote but the death of Field Marshal Kitchener in 1915 was a big ticket item.

Half the Nepalese royal family were killed by the Crown Prince in 2001:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepalese_royal_massacre

The Russian Tsar Nicholas II and his entire family were killed by a firing squad on July 17, 1918.
They were held in captivity in a house in Yekaterinburg by the Bolsheviks who seized power after the 1917 revolution.. Their bodies were mutilated and hidden in a swamp or a mine shaft. Their
death was a secret for many years until their remains were discovered and identified.

We visited there in 2005. It’s been cleaned up but the bullet marks in the walls are still there.

Michael V said:

Wiki supports Moll’s proposition.

“By 20 January, George was close to death. His physicians, led by Lord Dawson of Penn, issued a bulletin with the words “The King’s life is moving peacefully towards its close.” Dawson’s private diary, unearthed after his death and made public in 1986, reveals that George’s last words, a mumbled “God damn you!”, were addressed to his nurse, Catherine Black, when she gave him a sedative that night. Dawson, who supported the “gentle growth of euthanasia”, admitted in the diary that he ended the King’s life:

At about 11 o’clock it was evident that the last stage might endure for many hours, unknown to the Patient but little comporting with that dignity and serenity which he so richly merited and which demanded a brief final scene. Hours of waiting just for the mechanical end when all that is really life has departed only exhausts the onlookers & keeps them so strained that they cannot avail themselves of the solace of thought, communion or prayer. I therefore decided to determine the end and injected (myself) morphia gr.3/4 and shortly afterwards cocaine gr.1 into the distended jugular vein … In about 1/4 an hour – breathing quieter – appearance more placid – physical struggle gone.

Dawson wrote that he acted to preserve the King’s dignity, to prevent further strain on the family, and so that George’s death at 11:55 pm could be announced in the morning edition of The Times newspaper rather than “less appropriate … evening journals”. Neither Queen Mary, who was intensely religious and might not have sanctioned euthanasia, nor the Prince of Wales was consulted. The royal family did not want the King to endure pain and suffering and did not want his life prolonged artificially but neither did they approve Dawson’s actions.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_V#Declining_health_and_death

No. Moll is proposing a murder conspiracy and Wiki doesn’t support that.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

Moll’s sources are highly questionable, as is to be expected.

The standard account is that George was very close to death and the final injection just provided a peaceful and timely passage.

A little more remote but the death of Field Marshal Kitchener in 1915 was a big ticket item.

Half the Nepalese royal family were killed by the Crown Prince in 2001:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepalese_royal_massacre

Huh! I did not know that.

Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

Wiki supports Moll’s proposition.

“By 20 January, George was close to death. His physicians, led by Lord Dawson of Penn, issued a bulletin with the words “The King’s life is moving peacefully towards its close.” Dawson’s private diary, unearthed after his death and made public in 1986, reveals that George’s last words, a mumbled “God damn you!”, were addressed to his nurse, Catherine Black, when she gave him a sedative that night. Dawson, who supported the “gentle growth of euthanasia”, admitted in the diary that he ended the King’s life:

At about 11 o’clock it was evident that the last stage might endure for many hours, unknown to the Patient but little comporting with that dignity and serenity which he so richly merited and which demanded a brief final scene. Hours of waiting just for the mechanical end when all that is really life has departed only exhausts the onlookers & keeps them so strained that they cannot avail themselves of the solace of thought, communion or prayer. I therefore decided to determine the end and injected (myself) morphia gr.3/4 and shortly afterwards cocaine gr.1 into the distended jugular vein … In about 1/4 an hour – breathing quieter – appearance more placid – physical struggle gone.

Dawson wrote that he acted to preserve the King’s dignity, to prevent further strain on the family, and so that George’s death at 11:55 pm could be announced in the morning edition of The Times newspaper rather than “less appropriate … evening journals”. Neither Queen Mary, who was intensely religious and might not have sanctioned euthanasia, nor the Prince of Wales was consulted. The royal family did not want the King to endure pain and suffering and did not want his life prolonged artificially but neither did they approve Dawson’s actions.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_V#Declining_health_and_death

No. Moll is proposing a murder conspiracy and Wiki doesn’t support that.

I see what you mean, now. I had thought moll was proposing that Geo. V was murdered.

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

Wiki supports Moll’s proposition.

“By 20 January, George was close to death. His physicians, led by Lord Dawson of Penn, issued a bulletin with the words “The King’s life is moving peacefully towards its close.” Dawson’s private diary, unearthed after his death and made public in 1986, reveals that George’s last words, a mumbled “God damn you!”, were addressed to his nurse, Catherine Black, when she gave him a sedative that night. Dawson, who supported the “gentle growth of euthanasia”, admitted in the diary that he ended the King’s life:

At about 11 o’clock it was evident that the last stage might endure for many hours, unknown to the Patient but little comporting with that dignity and serenity which he so richly merited and which demanded a brief final scene. Hours of waiting just for the mechanical end when all that is really life has departed only exhausts the onlookers & keeps them so strained that they cannot avail themselves of the solace of thought, communion or prayer. I therefore decided to determine the end and injected (myself) morphia gr.3/4 and shortly afterwards cocaine gr.1 into the distended jugular vein … In about 1/4 an hour – breathing quieter – appearance more placid – physical struggle gone.

Dawson wrote that he acted to preserve the King’s dignity, to prevent further strain on the family, and so that George’s death at 11:55 pm could be announced in the morning edition of The Times newspaper rather than “less appropriate … evening journals”. Neither Queen Mary, who was intensely religious and might not have sanctioned euthanasia, nor the Prince of Wales was consulted. The royal family did not want the King to endure pain and suffering and did not want his life prolonged artificially but neither did they approve Dawson’s actions.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_V#Declining_health_and_death

No. Moll is proposing a murder conspiracy and Wiki doesn’t support that.

I see what you mean, now. I had thought moll was proposing that Geo. V was murdered.

As the Wiki entry points out, his death was imminent. It may have been fairly common in those days (and today) for doctors to administer a mercy dose of painkillers in those circumstances.

Mol is also making the assumption that Princess Di was also murdered.. so it’s clear which side of the conspiracy coin he enjoys

What about that dude that had his yacht blown up by the IRA? That was in the 80’s?

Arts said:

Mol is also making the assumption that Princess Di was also murdered.. so it’s clear which side of the conspiracy coin he enjoys

LOL, yeah.

:)

Kingy said:

What about that dude that had his yacht blown up by the IRA? That was in the 80’s?

Lord Mountbatten. Prince Philip’s uncle.

Kingy said:

What about that dude that had his yacht blown up by the IRA? That was in the 80’s?

Mountbatten, a relative of the so-called Royal Family but only an Earl.

Bubblecar said:

Kingy said:

What about that dude that had his yacht blown up by the IRA? That was in the 80’s?

Mountbatten, a relative of the so-called Royal Family but only an Earl.

I think he had a few ships blown from under him during the war, had a good war.

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Tamb said:

A little more remote but the death of Field Marshal Kitchener in 1915 was a big ticket item.

Half the Nepalese royal family were killed by the Crown Prince in 2001:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepalese_royal_massacre

Huh! I did not know that.

The country went republic a few years after that

Bubblecar said:

Kingy said:

What about that dude that had his yacht blown up by the IRA? That was in the 80’s?

Mountbatten, a relative of the so-called Royal Family but only an Earl.

How closely related the the regent do you have to be for it to be regicide?

I’m 18th cousin 7 times removed from King Bruce of the Yukon. Do I count?

Kingy said:

Bubblecar said:

Kingy said:

What about that dude that had his yacht blown up by the IRA? That was in the 80’s?

Mountbatten, a relative of the so-called Royal Family but only an Earl.

How closely related the the regent do you have to be for it to be regicide?

I’m 18th cousin 7 times removed from King Bruce of the Yukon. Do I count?

Hey, wait a minute…

I’m Kingtut, of course I count!

Kingy said:

Bubblecar said:

Kingy said:

What about that dude that had his yacht blown up by the IRA? That was in the 80’s?

Mountbatten, a relative of the so-called Royal Family but only an Earl.

How closely related the the regent do you have to be for it to be regicide?

I’m 18th cousin 7 times removed from King Bruce of the Yukon. Do I count?

Regicide is the killing of the monarch.

Kingy said:

What about that dude that had his yacht blown up by the IRA? That was in the 80’s?

Mountbatten/

Michael V said:

Arts said:

Mol is also making the assumption that Princess Di was also murdered.. so it’s clear which side of the conspiracy coin he enjoys

LOL, yeah.

:)

As conspiracy theories go, I think the one that supposes Di’s death was a deliberate murder is comparatively believable.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Arts said:

Mol is also making the assumption that Princess Di was also murdered.. so it’s clear which side of the conspiracy coin he enjoys

LOL, yeah.

:)

As conspiracy theories go, I think the one that supposes Di’s death was a deliberate murder is comparatively believable.

I mean it’s more believable than that the moon landing is faked but it’s still not very believable.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Arts said:

Mol is also making the assumption that Princess Di was also murdered.. so it’s clear which side of the conspiracy coin he enjoys

LOL, yeah.

:)

As conspiracy theories go, I think the one that supposes Di’s death was a deliberate murder is comparatively believable.

Just one seat belt and Harry would be well adjusted.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

LOL, yeah.

:)

As conspiracy theories go, I think the one that supposes Di’s death was a deliberate murder is comparatively believable.

I mean it’s more believable than that the moon landing is faked but it’s still not very believable.

Fast cars, late at night, on a constrained stretch of road, a driver who was probably profoundly pissed, no-one wearing a seat belt, and either the reality or the delusion that they were being ‘pestered’ by paparazzi…

You hardly need any devious scheme there. Seems more like a suicide pact than a murder conspiracy.

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

As conspiracy theories go, I think the one that supposes Di’s death was a deliberate murder is comparatively believable.

I mean it’s more believable than that the moon landing is faked but it’s still not very believable.

Fast cars, late at night, on a constrained stretch of road, a driver who was probably profoundly pissed, no-one wearing a seat belt, and either the reality or the delusion that they were being ‘pestered’ by paparazzi…

You hardly need any devious scheme there. Seems more like a suicide pact than a murder conspiracy.

That’s what I’m saying. The non-conspiracy version is simpler.

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

I mean it’s more believable than that the moon landing is faked but it’s still not very believable.

Fast cars, late at night, on a constrained stretch of road, a driver who was probably profoundly pissed, no-one wearing a seat belt, and either the reality or the delusion that they were being ‘pestered’ by paparazzi…

You hardly need any devious scheme there. Seems more like a suicide pact than a murder conspiracy.

That’s what I’m saying. The non-conspiracy version is simpler.

Agreed.

Di done and dusted nice and tidy 1 2 3.

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

Fast cars, late at night, on a constrained stretch of road, a driver who was probably profoundly pissed, no-one wearing a seat belt, and either the reality or the delusion that they were being ‘pestered’ by paparazzi…

You hardly need any devious scheme there. Seems more like a suicide pact than a murder conspiracy.

That’s what I’m saying. The non-conspiracy version is simpler.

Agreed.

What do you get when you cross Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles?

Killed in a car crash in Paris.

btm said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

That’s what I’m saying. The non-conspiracy version is simpler.

Agreed.

What do you get when you cross Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles?

Killed in a car crash in Paris.

Some conspiracy theorist are saying that the leader of the wagner group, Yevgeny Priogozhin , was murdered.

Peak Warming Man said:

btm said:

captain_spalding said:

Agreed.

What do you get when you cross Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles?

Killed in a car crash in Paris.

Some conspiracy theorist are saying that the leader of the wagner group, Yevgeny Priogozhin , was murdered.

That one is quite a lot more likely.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Arts said:

Mol is also making the assumption that Princess Di was also murdered.. so it’s clear which side of the conspiracy coin he enjoys

LOL, yeah.

:)

As conspiracy theories go, I think the one that supposes Di’s death was a deliberate murder is comparatively believable.

statistically ending up in a car crash when there is drink driving and high speeds involved, as well as other people in the car, is far greater than as part of a murder plot.

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

btm said:

What do you get when you cross Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles?

Killed in a car crash in Paris.

Some conspiracy theorist are saying that the leader of the wagner group, Yevgeny Priogozhin , was murdered.

That one is quite a lot more likely.

You do wonder why they surrendered, perhaps family held or threatened.
Can risk you own life but family isn’t yours do that with if you have any decency.

Arts said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

LOL, yeah.

:)

As conspiracy theories go, I think the one that supposes Di’s death was a deliberate murder is comparatively believable.

statistically ending up in a car crash when there is drink driving and high speeds involved, as well as other people in the car, is far greater than as part of a murder plot.

It was also driving to get away from others not just speeding as well

Peak Warming Man said:

btm said:

captain_spalding said:

Agreed.

What do you get when you cross Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles?

Killed in a car crash in Paris.

Some conspiracy theorist are saying that the leader of the wagner group, Yevgeny Priogozhin , was murdered.

Someone at the top of the Russian hierarchy using violent means to remove a vocal opponent from the world scene? Well, i never!

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

btm said:

What do you get when you cross Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles?

Killed in a car crash in Paris.

Some conspiracy theorist are saying that the leader of the wagner group, Yevgeny Priogozhin , was murdered.

Someone at the top of the Russian hierarchy using violent means to remove a vocal opponent from the world scene? Well, i never!

Private military would eventually become a threat as well, get them to do all the really nasty stuff and then cut off the head

Cymek said:

Arts said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

As conspiracy theories go, I think the one that supposes Di’s death was a deliberate murder is comparatively believable.

statistically ending up in a car crash when there is drink driving and high speeds involved, as well as other people in the car, is far greater than as part of a murder plot.

It was also driving to get away from others not just speeding as well

And she wasn’t a king.

Peak Warming Man said:

Cymek said:

Arts said:

statistically ending up in a car crash when there is drink driving and high speeds involved, as well as other people in the car, is far greater than as part of a murder plot.

It was also driving to get away from others not just speeding as well

And she wasn’t a king.

Its not unbelievable but unlikely, like Arts said accidents with those other factors happen all the time.
Especially as bad blood between Christians and Muslims is pretty uncommon in Europe and Britain

Cymek said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Cymek said:

It was also driving to get away from others not just speeding as well

And she wasn’t a king.

Its not unbelievable but unlikely, like Arts said accidents with those other factors happen all the time.
Especially as bad blood between Christians and Muslims is pretty uncommon in Europe and Britain

as a murder plot it is highly unlikely… there are too many variables that you would have to assume would go the way you’d want them to. the speed, the drink driving, the accident… the inclusion of other wealthy individuals whose family will ask questions… it seems highly unlikely that Camilla would have been able to make it all work so well.

Cymek said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Cymek said:

It was also driving to get away from others not just speeding as well

And she wasn’t a king.

Its not unbelievable but unlikely, like Arts said accidents with those other factors happen all the time.
Especially as bad blood between Christians and Muslims is pretty uncommon in Europe and Britain

Yes a Muslim rogering the freckle of a good Christain girl is not on.

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

I mean it’s more believable than that the moon landing is faked but it’s still not very believable.

Fast cars, late at night, on a constrained stretch of road, a driver who was probably profoundly pissed, no-one wearing a seat belt, and either the reality or the delusion that they were being ‘pestered’ by paparazzi…

You hardly need any devious scheme there. Seems more like a suicide pact than a murder conspiracy.

That’s what I’m saying. The non-conspiracy version is simpler.

apply the razor.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Kingy said:

What about that dude that had his yacht blown up by the IRA? That was in the 80’s?

Mountbatten, a relative of the so-called Royal Family but only an Earl.

I think he had a few ships blown from under him during the war, had a good war.

Boats blow up all the time

No conspiracy there.

I think Dieppe was Mountbattens brainchild

Bogsnorkler said:

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

Fast cars, late at night, on a constrained stretch of road, a driver who was probably profoundly pissed, no-one wearing a seat belt, and either the reality or the delusion that they were being ‘pestered’ by paparazzi…

You hardly need any devious scheme there. Seems more like a suicide pact than a murder conspiracy.

That’s what I’m saying. The non-conspiracy version is simpler.

apply the razor.

Just because all the CCTV was switched off that night only on the route they took is totally coincidental

The 7/7 London bombings had all the CCTV switched off too. The israeli that runs the CCTV had some kind of malfunction, its why the only image is of the terrorists entering a railway station up north to catch a train that never came – the train by british rails timetable was cancelled, by not catching that train they couldn’t get all the connections to elsewhere.

With Diana the image you have of her is leaving the hotel

The Comedian

Ananda Mahidol, king Rama 8 of Thailand, was murdered 9 June 1946, possibly by his brother who became Rama 9.

Tooshay

dv said:

That scene always comes to mind when I see this thread.

But I always thought it was Homer making the call.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

That scene always comes to mind when I see this thread.

But I always thought it was Homer making the call.

Seems I was wrong