Someone stole an hour, stop that thief, bastard has gained an hour.
Shakes fist, return that hour now.
Chases thief into distance.

I finally remembered if I lost or gained an hour.

Spring forward
Fall back

I know it’s American, but it helped me remember.

Brindabellas said:

I finally remembered if I lost or gained an hour.

Spring forward
Fall back

I know it’s American, but it helped me remember.

Spring forward, fall over.

Yesterday I learned how to use a shopping cart, the wire type.

I’ve been using it wrongly for 50 years. I should have read the user manual.

Putting groceries in shopping carts – no problem.
Putting groceries from the cart into the carrier bag – oops, I’ve been doing it wrongly.

I’ve been putting the carrier bag in the shopping cart, holding it open with one hand while filling it with the other – wrong. I only noticed it when I was grumpy and exhausted and thought “I wish there was a better way to do this. And low and behold, there is.

There is a metal lug, a piece of bent tube, on the top of the tilting metal partition, designed specifically to hold carrier bags. And it automatically holds the carrier bag open while filling. Much easier.

You can see the carrier bag holder top centre of the following image.

I wish I’d known about it 30 years ago. I’d previously been using it only to open the tilting metal partition.

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 13 degrees at the back door, clouded over (I think, we are still pre-dawn light) and the wind is getting up. We are sitting in the 30s, gusting into the 50s. It started picking up a couple of hours ago. We are forecast a partly cloudy 18 degrees and the wind is only forecast to go into the 30s. We seem to have overextended ourselves on that front already.

I will probably do a bit more weeding today. And I will write up my bush flower sightings for September.

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 13 degrees at the back door, clouded over (I think, we are still pre-dawn light) and the wind is getting up. We are sitting in the 30s, gusting into the 50s. It started picking up a couple of hours ago. We are forecast a partly cloudy 18 degrees and the wind is only forecast to go into the 30s. We seem to have overextended ourselves on that front already.

I will probably do a bit more weeding today. And I will write up my bush flower sightings for September.

and good morning to you, lady buffy

plenty birds I hears out there in the outside, most vocal is a wagtail, and a blackbird, or blackbirds plural, and a honeyeater now

6:41am DLS time, started, sees clock on the wall will need manual adjustment

Good morning, so… I took one of my daughters to the ballet production … Strictly Gherswin lastnight…her first experience of a ballet performance and musical theatre …she liked the 2nd bit after intermission… more so…. than the first bit but also said , next time she might like to see something more modern. :)

mollwollfumble said:

Yesterday I learned how to use a shopping cart, the wire type.

I’ve been using it wrongly for 50 years. I should have read the user manual.

Putting groceries in shopping carts – no problem.
Putting groceries from the cart into the carrier bag – oops, I’ve been doing it wrongly.

I’ve been putting the carrier bag in the shopping cart, holding it open with one hand while filling it with the other – wrong. I only noticed it when I was grumpy and exhausted and thought “I wish there was a better way to do this. And low and behold, there is.

There is a metal lug, a piece of bent tube, on the top of the tilting metal partition, designed specifically to hold carrier bags. And it automatically holds the carrier bag open while filling. Much easier.

You can see the carrier bag holder top centre of the following image.

I wish I’d known about it 30 years ago. I’d previously been using it only to open the tilting metal partition.

So we can still learn new stuff then?

Maybe I should have a go at that fractional calculus after all.

monkey skipper said:

buffy said:

OK, dogs have been fed. I’m going to the local cemetery to see if the yellow orchids survived the mowing a couple of weeks ago. Any that were still down low might by now be up. I know a few were up last week because another iNat person looked at them. Because he had seen my observations of them and was going through the district. He is an avid and longterm orchid person and was, shall we say ropeable about the mowing at that particular time. He has contacted the cemetery trust and let them know what he thinks…

My uncle has the knack with keeping orchids alive and usually gets them to flower as well..I wouldn’t say they’re my strength as far as plants go. But I think they are a group of plants with elegant flowers.

Orchidaceae is the largest family of flowering plants.

Michael V said:

monkey skipper said:

buffy said:

OK, dogs have been fed. I’m going to the local cemetery to see if the yellow orchids survived the mowing a couple of weeks ago. Any that were still down low might by now be up. I know a few were up last week because another iNat person looked at them. Because he had seen my observations of them and was going through the district. He is an avid and longterm orchid person and was, shall we say ropeable about the mowing at that particular time. He has contacted the cemetery trust and let them know what he thinks…

My uncle has the knack with keeping orchids alive and usually gets them to flower as well..I wouldn’t say they’re my strength as far as plants go. But I think they are a group of plants with elegant flowers.

Orchidaceae is the largest family of flowering plants.

and the most widespread.

persévérant talk

Good morning everyone.

20.6°C, 58% RH and partly cloudy with light breezes. BoM forecasts a 25°C maximum and no chance of rain.

I don’t think Mrs V will be watching the NRL grand final. Oddly, it’s not showing up on the TV guide. Dunno why.

https://www.ourguide.com.au/tv_guide.php?r=maryborough&d=01102023&t=4

SCIENCE said:

persévérant talk

OK.

SCIENCE said:

persévérant talk

An odd way of saying it.

The orchids survived the mowing. I’ll show you some photos later. I was struggling a bit with the wind and it’s glary. But I got some adequate photos.

ABC News:

Having worked for Qld Health for more than a few years, i can assure you that the very last thing that this reporting system will be is ‘anonymous’.

The mechanism will be designed so that, while it may not be immediately obvious to the person making the report, the source of any report can be identified if people farther up the ladder desire. It will also ensure that there’s ‘plausible deniability’ of being able to identify reporters.

Morning pilgrims
Its a spffing day in the pearl.
Over.

coffee landed, don’t get up, you stay seated, I did it myself

transition said:

coffee landed, don’t get up, you stay seated, I did it myself

where’s mine then?

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

Yesterday I learned how to use a shopping cart, the wire type.

I’ve been using it wrongly for 50 years. I should have read the user manual.

Putting groceries in shopping carts – no problem.
Putting groceries from the cart into the carrier bag – oops, I’ve been doing it wrongly.

I’ve been putting the carrier bag in the shopping cart, holding it open with one hand while filling it with the other – wrong. I only noticed it when I was grumpy and exhausted and thought “I wish there was a better way to do this. And low and behold, there is.

There is a metal lug, a piece of bent tube, on the top of the tilting metal partition, designed specifically to hold carrier bags. And it automatically holds the carrier bag open while filling. Much easier.

You can see the carrier bag holder top centre of the following image.

I wish I’d known about it 30 years ago. I’d previously been using it only to open the tilting metal partition.

So we can still learn new stuff then?

Maybe I should have a go at that fractional calculus after all.

The other day I saw a bloke in the shops who had a custom set of shopping bags in the trolley. They have a pole sewn in along the top on two sides. Said poles rest on the upper edge of the wire cage, and hold the bags open. He had a about 4 or 5 of them in the trolley, including one that was insulated for holding the frozen foods.

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

Yesterday I learned how to use a shopping cart, the wire type.

I’ve been using it wrongly for 50 years. I should have read the user manual.

Putting groceries in shopping carts – no problem.
Putting groceries from the cart into the carrier bag – oops, I’ve been doing it wrongly.

I’ve been putting the carrier bag in the shopping cart, holding it open with one hand while filling it with the other – wrong. I only noticed it when I was grumpy and exhausted and thought “I wish there was a better way to do this. And low and behold, there is.

There is a metal lug, a piece of bent tube, on the top of the tilting metal partition, designed specifically to hold carrier bags. And it automatically holds the carrier bag open while filling. Much easier.

You can see the carrier bag holder top centre of the following image.

I wish I’d known about it 30 years ago. I’d previously been using it only to open the tilting metal partition.

So we can still learn new stuff then?

Maybe I should have a go at that fractional calculus after all.

The other day I saw a bloke in the shops who had a custom set of shopping bags in the trolley. They have a pole sewn in along the top on two sides. Said poles rest on the upper edge of the wire cage, and hold the bags open. He had a about 4 or 5 of them in the trolley, including one that was insulated for holding the frozen foods.

.
He was one of those shopologist.

Peak Warming Man said:

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So we can still learn new stuff then?

Maybe I should have a go at that fractional calculus after all.

The other day I saw a bloke in the shops who had a custom set of shopping bags in the trolley. They have a pole sewn in along the top on two sides. Said poles rest on the upper edge of the wire cage, and hold the bags open. He had a about 4 or 5 of them in the trolley, including one that was insulated for holding the frozen foods.

.
He was one of those shopologist.

Something like this, but I’m sure he had an insulated cooler bag as one of them

party_pants said:

Peak Warming Man said:

party_pants said:

The other day I saw a bloke in the shops who had a custom set of shopping bags in the trolley. They have a pole sewn in along the top on two sides. Said poles rest on the upper edge of the wire cage, and hold the bags open. He had a about 4 or 5 of them in the trolley, including one that was insulated for holding the frozen foods.

.
He was one of those shopologist.

Something like this, but I’m sure he had an insulated cooler bag as one of them

I bought 2 or 3 similar bags from a hardware store. This was years ago. People around here let their grubby children ride IN the carts. Filthy shoes and public toilet seat bums where my shopping goes.

kii said:

party_pants said:

Peak Warming Man said:

.
He was one of those shopologist.

Something like this, but I’m sure he had an insulated cooler bag as one of them

I bought 2 or 3 similar bags from a hardware store. This was years ago. People around here let their grubby children ride IN the carts. Filthy shoes and public toilet seat bums where my shopping goes.

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

party_pants said:

kii said:

party_pants said:

Something like this, but I’m sure he had an insulated cooler bag as one of them

I bought 2 or 3 similar bags from a hardware store. This was years ago. People around here let their grubby children ride IN the carts. Filthy shoes and public toilet seat bums where my shopping goes.

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

How about parents having control over their kids? Mine never ran riot in the aisles.

party_pants said:

kii said:

party_pants said:

Something like this, but I’m sure he had an insulated cooler bag as one of them

I bought 2 or 3 similar bags from a hardware store. This was years ago. People around here let their grubby children ride IN the carts. Filthy shoes and public toilet seat bums where my shopping goes.

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

Should be kept on a short lead and only allowed in specific lanes.

party_pants said:

kii said:

party_pants said:

Something like this, but I’m sure he had an insulated cooler bag as one of them

I bought 2 or 3 similar bags from a hardware store. This was years ago. People around here let their grubby children ride IN the carts. Filthy shoes and public toilet seat bums where my shopping goes.

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

I see people wiping down their trolleys with alcohol wipes before they put their hands on them.

kii said:

party_pants said:

kii said:

I bought 2 or 3 similar bags from a hardware store. This was years ago. People around here let their grubby children ride IN the carts. Filthy shoes and public toilet seat bums where my shopping goes.

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

How about parents having control over their kids? Mine never ran riot in the aisles.

Well behaved children are indeed a possibility.

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

kii said:

I bought 2 or 3 similar bags from a hardware store. This was years ago. People around here let their grubby children ride IN the carts. Filthy shoes and public toilet seat bums where my shopping goes.

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

Should be kept on a short lead and only allowed in specific lanes.

Should be left at home.

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

kii said:

I bought 2 or 3 similar bags from a hardware store. This was years ago. People around here let their grubby children ride IN the carts. Filthy shoes and public toilet seat bums where my shopping goes.

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

Should be kept on a short lead and only allowed in specific lanes.

The majority of parents are useless.

kii said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

Should be kept on a short lead and only allowed in specific lanes.

The majority of parents are useless.

This is the issue.

kii said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

Should be kept on a short lead and only allowed in specific lanes.

The majority of parents are useless.

IKR, and they get so damn precious when you knock one of their kids over. Even when the child literally runs backwards into your stationary trolley.

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

kii said:

I bought 2 or 3 similar bags from a hardware store. This was years ago. People around here let their grubby children ride IN the carts. Filthy shoes and public toilet seat bums where my shopping goes.

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

Should be kept on a short lead and only allowed in specific lanes.

if you ever see a child on a lead, whatever you do, do not ask the parent if it was a rescue…

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

kii said:

I bought 2 or 3 similar bags from a hardware store. This was years ago. People around here let their grubby children ride IN the carts. Filthy shoes and public toilet seat bums where my shopping goes.

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

Should be kept on a short lead and only allowed in specific lanes.

Swaddled in glad-wrap, and stowed on the lower shelf of the trolley.

Arts said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

Should be kept on a short lead and only allowed in specific lanes.

if you ever see a child on a lead, whatever you do, do not ask the parent if it was a rescue…

LOL. :)

roughbarked said:

kii said:

party_pants said:

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

How about parents having control over their kids? Mine never ran riot in the aisles.

Well behaved children are indeed a possibility.

Imagine doing your shopping with your kids after working all day with other people’s crotch goblins and you hear a family of 3 rowdy preschoolers and their mum two aisles away. You know this chaotic crowd are the little terrors who attend the preschool you run.

As they come towards you the mother tells the little shits that ms kii won’t let them play with any toys the next day if they don’t STFU.

Oh joy. Involve me in your threats of punishment during my own family time.

Arts said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

Should be kept on a short lead and only allowed in specific lanes.

if you ever see a child on a lead, whatever you do, do not ask the parent if it was a rescue…

Lololol 🤣 son # 2 was leash trained. He had no fear as a toddler and would wander off if both my hands weren’t holding him. Mother dearest suggested the wrist leash.

captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

Should be kept on a short lead and only allowed in specific lanes.

Swaddled in glad-wrap, and stowed on the lower shelf of the trolley.

too easily forgotten and left behind that way.

Seven sisters

Lovely photo

dv said:

Seven sisters

Lovely photo

Almost looks as if the people were placed there in that pattern.

Hey, roughie, i found this in the Nov 1945 ‘Popular Science’:

captain_spalding said:

Hey, roughie, i found this in the Nov 1945 ‘Popular Science’:

It is called an Atmos clock.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmos_clock
https://www.chrono24.com.au/jaegerlecoultre/atmos—mod899.htm
https://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/au-en/clocks/atmos

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Hey, roughie, i found this in the Nov 1945 ‘Popular Science’:

It is called an Atmos clock.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmos_clock
https://www.chrono24.com.au/jaegerlecoultre/atmos—mod899.htm
https://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/au-en/clocks/atmos

Gosh,i’d never heard of such a thing until i saw that little item.

captain_spalding said:

Hey, roughie, i found this in the Nov 1945 ‘Popular Science’:

and I think you will find that Longines-Wittnauer is an American company that buys clocks and watches from Switzerland and puts their name on them.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Hey, roughie, i found this in the Nov 1945 ‘Popular Science’:

It is called an Atmos clock.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmos_clock
https://www.chrono24.com.au/jaegerlecoultre/atmos—mod899.htm
https://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/au-en/clocks/atmos

Gosh,i’d never heard of such a thing until i saw that little item.

As you can see, they have been around a long time.

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Hey, roughie, i found this in the Nov 1945 ‘Popular Science’:

and I think you will find that Longines-Wittnauer is an American company that buys clocks and watches from Switzerland and puts their name on them.

and they long ago lost any connection to Longines.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Hey, roughie, i found this in the Nov 1945 ‘Popular Science’:

and I think you will find that Longines-Wittnauer is an American company that buys clocks and watches from Switzerland and puts their name on them.

and they long ago lost any connection to Longines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wittnauer

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Hey, roughie, i found this in the Nov 1945 ‘Popular Science’:

and I think you will find that Longines-Wittnauer is an American company that buys clocks and watches from Switzerland and puts their name on them.

and they long ago lost any connection to Longines.

Bloody frauds.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

and I think you will find that Longines-Wittnauer is an American company that buys clocks and watches from Switzerland and puts their name on them.

and they long ago lost any connection to Longines.

Bloody frauds.

Not completely fraudulent by any means.

dv said:

Seven sisters

Lovely photo

Used to live about 10 km away from Seven Sisters (at Lewes).

Used to be a huge radar dish sitting on top of the cliff.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

personally I prefer kids to be confined to a trolley rather than running all over the shop floor touching everything.

Should be kept on a short lead and only allowed in specific lanes.

Should be left at home.

No, should be taught what is acceptable behaviour and what is not. After all, they do live in the world and need to know the boundaries. It’s not inate, it has to be taught.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Should be kept on a short lead and only allowed in specific lanes.

Should be left at home.

No, should be taught what is acceptable behaviour and what is not. After all, they do live in the world and need to know the boundaries. It’s not inate, it has to be taught.

This.

kii said:

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Should be left at home.

No, should be taught what is acceptable behaviour and what is not. After all, they do live in the world and need to know the boundaries. It’s not inate, it has to be taught.

This.

I was channelling my mother there…She was of the very strong opinion that you shouldn’t baby children, we never heard babytalk in our house. Boundaries were set, tested, pushed…all of us have managed to be pretty reasonable, decent humans.

buffy said:

kii said:

buffy said:

No, should be taught what is acceptable behaviour and what is not. After all, they do live in the world and need to know the boundaries. It’s not inate, it has to be taught.

This.

I was channelling my mother there…She was of the very strong opinion that you shouldn’t baby children, we never heard babytalk in our house. Boundaries were set, tested, pushed…all of us have managed to be pretty reasonable, decent humans.

Exactly. Children need boundaries, they crave them when there are none.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Should be kept on a short lead and only allowed in specific lanes.

Should be left at home.

No, should be taught what is acceptable behaviour and what is not. After all, they do live in the world and need to know the boundaries. It’s not inate, it has to be taught.

What I meant is; that when they are misbehaving send them to their room.
There’s no way I’d take a misbehaving child shopping in a supermarket.
Otherwise I agree with parental care in the way you mentioned above

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Should be kept on a short lead and only allowed in specific lanes.

Should be left at home.

No, should be taught what is acceptable behaviour and what is not. After all, they do live in the world and need to know the boundaries. It’s not inate, it has to be taught.

so does parenting… and then some parents don’t have the privilege of time to do shopping without the child.. or the means to have someone to look after the child…

Arts said:

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Should be left at home.

No, should be taught what is acceptable behaviour and what is not. After all, they do live in the world and need to know the boundaries. It’s not inate, it has to be taught.

so does parenting… and then some parents don’t have the privilege of time to do shopping without the child.. or the means to have someone to look after the child…

Yes and it behooves the rest of us to be tolerant.

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

buffy said:

No, should be taught what is acceptable behaviour and what is not. After all, they do live in the world and need to know the boundaries. It’s not inate, it has to be taught.

so does parenting… and then some parents don’t have the privilege of time to do shopping without the child.. or the means to have someone to look after the child…

Yes and it behooves the rest of us to be tolerant.

or just to bring your own bags. Or just wash any fresh fruit and veges before you eat them, just in case there are any snotty child germs on the trolley you used.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Used to live about 10 km away from Seven Sisters (at Lewes).

Used to be a huge radar dish sitting on top of the cliff.

Interesting career path.

Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Used to live about 10 km away from Seven Sisters (at Lewes).

Used to be a huge radar dish sitting on top of the cliff.

Interesting career path.

OK, please insert an “I” before the first used, and a “There” before the second.

Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Used to live about 10 km away from Seven Sisters (at Lewes).

Used to be a huge radar dish sitting on top of the cliff.

Interesting career path.

Rofl

I could whipper a while, beautiful day out there

transition said:

I could whipper a while, beautiful day out there

Bit drizzly here.

Going to spend the afternoon at Dad’s place sorting all his shed stuff. He moved out last weekend because he’s not coping on his own anymore. He wants to sell the house and all that. But what to do with all his stuff? I am not mentally prepared for all this stuff, but he seems to have mad up his mind and wants to do it all right now. I think I am going to end up with a pile of stuff I don’t need nor have room to store on a long term basis.

It’s not like I’m a twenty year old starting out and needing a starter. I’ve been collecting my own stuff for 30 years, and I already have too much of it. Maybe I need to find some younger folks to give it away to.

I just made a fresh batch of Xinjiang spice mix. Gosh it smells good, even though I didn’t bother with the toasting of the Szechuan peppers and cumin seed. I’m sure they will get toasted in the cooking later.

PermeateFree said:

Is that the radar dish that used to be at the seven sisters cliff?

Kingy said:

PermeateFree said:

Is that the radar dish that used to be at the seven sisters cliff?

I think you have made a moosetake.

party_pants said:

transition said:

I could whipper a while, beautiful day out there

Bit drizzly here.

Going to spend the afternoon at Dad’s place sorting all his shed stuff. He moved out last weekend because he’s not coping on his own anymore. He wants to sell the house and all that. But what to do with all his stuff? I am not mentally prepared for all this stuff, but he seems to have mad up his mind and wants to do it all right now. I think I am going to end up with a pile of stuff I don’t need nor have room to store on a long term basis.

It’s not like I’m a twenty year old starting out and needing a starter. I’ve been collecting my own stuff for 30 years, and I already have too much of it. Maybe I need to find some younger folks to give it away to.

Online garage sale. organise the stuff into batches of similar stuff and take pics. Put it on ebay/local facebook pages.

Kingy said:

party_pants said:

transition said:

I could whipper a while, beautiful day out there

Bit drizzly here.

Going to spend the afternoon at Dad’s place sorting all his shed stuff. He moved out last weekend because he’s not coping on his own anymore. He wants to sell the house and all that. But what to do with all his stuff? I am not mentally prepared for all this stuff, but he seems to have mad up his mind and wants to do it all right now. I think I am going to end up with a pile of stuff I don’t need nor have room to store on a long term basis.

It’s not like I’m a twenty year old starting out and needing a starter. I’ve been collecting my own stuff for 30 years, and I already have too much of it. Maybe I need to find some younger folks to give it away to.

Online garage sale. organise the stuff into batches of similar stuff and take pics. Put it on ebay/local facebook pages.

That might be the go I think. Good idea.

party_pants said:

transition said:

I could whipper a while, beautiful day out there

Bit drizzly here.

Going to spend the afternoon at Dad’s place sorting all his shed stuff. He moved out last weekend because he’s not coping on his own anymore. He wants to sell the house and all that. But what to do with all his stuff? I am not mentally prepared for all this stuff, but he seems to have mad up his mind and wants to do it all right now. I think I am going to end up with a pile of stuff I don’t need nor have room to store on a long term basis.

It’s not like I’m a twenty year old starting out and needing a starter. I’ve been collecting my own stuff for 30 years, and I already have too much of it. Maybe I need to find some younger folks to give it away to.

Watch Hoarders. Lots of inspiration on that show.

Kingy said:

party_pants said:

transition said:

I could whipper a while, beautiful day out there

Bit drizzly here.

Going to spend the afternoon at Dad’s place sorting all his shed stuff. He moved out last weekend because he’s not coping on his own anymore. He wants to sell the house and all that. But what to do with all his stuff? I am not mentally prepared for all this stuff, but he seems to have mad up his mind and wants to do it all right now. I think I am going to end up with a pile of stuff I don’t need nor have room to store on a long term basis.

It’s not like I’m a twenty year old starting out and needing a starter. I’ve been collecting my own stuff for 30 years, and I already have too much of it. Maybe I need to find some younger folks to give it away to.

Online garage sale. organise the stuff into batches of similar stuff and take pics. Put it on ebay/local facebook pages.

Facebook might have local groups looking for free items. I had all the concrete blocks, bricks and paving stone taken away by a couple who ecstatic about it all.

kii said:

party_pants said:

transition said:

I could whipper a while, beautiful day out there

Bit drizzly here.

Going to spend the afternoon at Dad’s place sorting all his shed stuff. He moved out last weekend because he’s not coping on his own anymore. He wants to sell the house and all that. But what to do with all his stuff? I am not mentally prepared for all this stuff, but he seems to have mad up his mind and wants to do it all right now. I think I am going to end up with a pile of stuff I don’t need nor have room to store on a long term basis.

It’s not like I’m a twenty year old starting out and needing a starter. I’ve been collecting my own stuff for 30 years, and I already have too much of it. Maybe I need to find some younger folks to give it away to.

Watch Hoarders. Lots of inspiration on that show.

There’s probably stuff in the shed that if you don’t want it…could be put into boxes and sent to the local auction house. isn’t there a young relative somewhere?

My sister just helped organise this for an aging affluent cousin. A newish fridge, a large leather lounge, a very big tv, all sorts of matching kettle, toaster, mixmaster stuff…all went to the needy niece. And she was ecstatic. The rest went to the salvos.

In answer to Sarahs mums question in phrazle:

The Rev Dodgson said:

In answer to Sarahs mums question in phrazle:

that’s where it went.

dv said:

Seven sisters

Lovely photo

Chalk?

Michael V said:

dv said:

Seven sisters

Lovely photo

Chalk?

Looks like it, I wouldn’t go within 100 meters of the edge.

Michael V said:

dv said:

Seven sisters

Lovely photo

Chalk?

I’ll ask Mrs Marsh.

sarahs mum said:

kii said:

party_pants said:

Bit drizzly here.

Going to spend the afternoon at Dad’s place sorting all his shed stuff. He moved out last weekend because he’s not coping on his own anymore. He wants to sell the house and all that. But what to do with all his stuff? I am not mentally prepared for all this stuff, but he seems to have mad up his mind and wants to do it all right now. I think I am going to end up with a pile of stuff I don’t need nor have room to store on a long term basis.

It’s not like I’m a twenty year old starting out and needing a starter. I’ve been collecting my own stuff for 30 years, and I already have too much of it. Maybe I need to find some younger folks to give it away to.

Watch Hoarders. Lots of inspiration on that show.

There’s probably stuff in the shed that if you don’t want it…could be put into boxes and sent to the local auction house. isn’t there a young relative somewhere?

My sister just helped organise this for an aging affluent cousin. A newish fridge, a large leather lounge, a very big tv, all sorts of matching kettle, toaster, mixmaster stuff…all went to the needy niece. And she was ecstatic. The rest went to the salvos.

But but…..you might need it one day………it might come in hardy one day…………..

Kingy said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

Seven sisters

Lovely photo

Chalk?

Looks like it, I wouldn’t go within 100 meters of the edge.

Me too, great photo though.
Drones are good for taking photos.

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

kii said:

Watch Hoarders. Lots of inspiration on that show.

There’s probably stuff in the shed that if you don’t want it…could be put into boxes and sent to the local auction house. isn’t there a young relative somewhere?

My sister just helped organise this for an aging affluent cousin. A newish fridge, a large leather lounge, a very big tv, all sorts of matching kettle, toaster, mixmaster stuff…all went to the needy niece. And she was ecstatic. The rest went to the salvos.

But but…..you might need it one day………it might come in hardy one day…………..

Lol, yeah. I’ve literally spent the last 2 years going through the hubby’s collection of fittings, scraps of wood, metal…each thing started off as “we might need it one day”.

Bogsnorkler said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

Seven sisters

Lovely photo

Chalk?

I’ll ask Mrs Marsh.

Dear oh dear.

https://youtu.be/nXL-r8deB5o

Happy Asking Panda

kii said:

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

There’s probably stuff in the shed that if you don’t want it…could be put into boxes and sent to the local auction house. isn’t there a young relative somewhere?

My sister just helped organise this for an aging affluent cousin. A newish fridge, a large leather lounge, a very big tv, all sorts of matching kettle, toaster, mixmaster stuff…all went to the needy niece. And she was ecstatic. The rest went to the salvos.

But but…..you might need it one day………it might come in hardy one day…………..

Lol, yeah. I’ve literally spent the last 2 years going through the hubby’s collection of fittings, scraps of wood, metal…each thing started off as “we might need it one day”.

I am still burdened by Brett’s shit of that description. Fn I beams.

Michael V said:

dv said:

Seven sisters

Lovely photo

Chalk?

Yes, about 200 m high IIRC.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

Seven sisters

Lovely photo

Chalk?

Yes, about 200 m high IIRC.

Gosh!

That’s a high cliff.

Lunch: pork & beef meatballs with chopped tomato, zucchini, onion, garlic and Harissa spices.

Then and only then will I put my clocks forward.

sarahs mum said:

kii said:

Peak Warming Man said:

But but…..you might need it one day………it might come in hardy one day…………..

Lol, yeah. I’ve literally spent the last 2 years going through the hubby’s collection of fittings, scraps of wood, metal…each thing started off as “we might need it one day”.

I am still burdened by Brett’s shit of that description. Fn I beams.

They’ll could come in handy one day.

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

Chalk?

Yes, about 200 m high IIRC.

Gosh!

That’s a high cliff.

Not too bad a memory.

162 m. The highest chalk sea cliff in Britain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beachy_Head

kii said:

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

There’s probably stuff in the shed that if you don’t want it…could be put into boxes and sent to the local auction house. isn’t there a young relative somewhere?

My sister just helped organise this for an aging affluent cousin. A newish fridge, a large leather lounge, a very big tv, all sorts of matching kettle, toaster, mixmaster stuff…all went to the needy niece. And she was ecstatic. The rest went to the salvos.

But but…..you might need it one day………it might come in hardy one day…………..

Lol, yeah. I’ve literally spent the last 2 years going through the hubby’s collection of fittings, scraps of wood, metal…each thing started off as “we might need it one day”.

I do this, too. Now what can I do with not one, but two defunct glass kettles? There has to be some use for two-litre glass cylinders.

what’s with this bird keeps building a nest under bonnet of the ute, around the brake master unit, all pipes and everything, only cleaned it all out yesterday(again), now bird’s rebuilt it, persistent, a determined bird, I tells ya we gots a conflict of interest, me and that bird

transition said:

what’s with this bird keeps building a nest under bonnet of the ute, around the brake master unit, all pipes and everything, only cleaned it all out yesterday(again), now bird’s rebuilt it, persistent, a determined bird, I tells ya we gots a conflict of interest, me and that bird

You need to put up signs.

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yes, about 200 m high IIRC.

Gosh!

That’s a high cliff.

Not too bad a memory.

162 m. The highest chalk sea cliff in Britain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beachy_Head

About 23 people per year die from jumping off.

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

what’s with this bird keeps building a nest under bonnet of the ute, around the brake master unit, all pipes and everything, only cleaned it all out yesterday(again), now bird’s rebuilt it, persistent, a determined bird, I tells ya we gots a conflict of interest, me and that bird

You need to put up signs.

I considered that NO NESTING

just a hunch but reckon probably ignore the sign

transition said:

what’s with this bird keeps building a nest under bonnet of the ute, around the brake master unit, all pipes and everything, only cleaned it all out yesterday(again), now bird’s rebuilt it, persistent, a determined bird, I tells ya we gots a conflict of interest, me and that bird

What type of bird?

My son just fell off the toilet (he’s fine) but the toilet seat broke.. so I guess I’m going to Bunnings.. my questions is.. are toilet seat fittings all standard.. or is there something I need to measure?

Arts said:

My son just fell off the toilet (he’s fine) but the toilet seat broke.. so I guess I’m going to Bunnings.. my questions is.. are toilet seat fittings all standard.. or is there something I need to measure?

all standard as far as I know.

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

what’s with this bird keeps building a nest under bonnet of the ute, around the brake master unit, all pipes and everything, only cleaned it all out yesterday(again), now bird’s rebuilt it, persistent, a determined bird, I tells ya we gots a conflict of interest, me and that bird

You need to put up signs.

I considered that NO NESTING

just a hunch but reckon probably ignore the sign

Some of them are illiterate as well.

Michael V said:

transition said:

what’s with this bird keeps building a nest under bonnet of the ute, around the brake master unit, all pipes and everything, only cleaned it all out yesterday(again), now bird’s rebuilt it, persistent, a determined bird, I tells ya we gots a conflict of interest, me and that bird

What type of bird?

not seen bird, making nest out of bamboo whatever litter, leaf litter

i’ll look up blackbird nest shortly, after eats my noodles, and drinks my coffee

Neophyte said:

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Gosh!

That’s a high cliff.

Not too bad a memory.

162 m. The highest chalk sea cliff in Britain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beachy_Head

About 23 people per year die from jumping off.

Bugger.

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

You need to put up signs.

I considered that NO NESTING

just a hunch but reckon probably ignore the sign

Some of them are illiterate as well.

yeah there’s that, lot of illiterate birds these days, education system’s in decline, spend too much time on twitter

Arts said:

My son just fell off the toilet (he’s fine) but the toilet seat broke.. so I guess I’m going to Bunnings.. my questions is.. are toilet seat fittings all standard.. or is there something I need to measure?

They are roughly standard and come with adjustable anchors.

two that say all standard.. that’s enough confirmation for me… thanks

Arts said:

My son just fell off the toilet (he’s fine) but the toilet seat broke.. so I guess I’m going to Bunnings.. my questions is.. are toilet seat fittings all standard.. or is there something I need to measure?

They should be, unless it is very old or some non-standard fancy one, But it won’t hurt to measure up first anyway. I’d measure the length and width of the bowl, and the distance apart for the bolts/fittings.

Arts said:

two that say all standard.. that’s enough confirmation for me… thanks

No worries.

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Yes, about 200 m high IIRC.

Gosh!

That’s a high cliff.

Not too bad a memory.

162 m. The highest chalk sea cliff in Britain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beachy_Head

I used to live about 15 minutes drive from Minyan Falls in northern NSW, they are over 100m tall and you USED to be able to swim in both the top and bottom of it (now you can’t get closer than 100m to the top, bloody pikers)- when I was a kid you could swim in the top pool and actually look over the edge and wave at the people swimming in the bottom pool lol- (about 120m vertical drop)

Swimming in the bottom pool was interesting- you can swim directly under them- but man it stung like hell!!!

Was a LONG walk from the top to the bottom- a couple of hours, and one bit is literally a steel staircase bolted to a vertical rockface- a bit scary if you don’t have a good head for heights…

update on first hubby’s younger brother found dead by wife when she got home from work. his wife got to spend most of last night at the police station. still no cause of death. I just told Sarah that autopsy was normal under those situations. Feel bad for his wife.

Arts said:

My son just fell off the toilet (he’s fine) but the toilet seat broke.. so I guess I’m going to Bunnings.. my questions is.. are toilet seat fittings all standard.. or is there something I need to measure?

Wtf? And he’s now got his learner’s permit? He can’t even drive a loo!

Michael V said:

kii said:

Peak Warming Man said:

But but…..you might need it one day………it might come in hardy one day…………..

Lol, yeah. I’ve literally spent the last 2 years going through the hubby’s collection of fittings, scraps of wood, metal…each thing started off as “we might need it one day”.

I do this, too. Now what can I do with not one, but two defunct glass kettles? There has to be some use for two-litre glass cylinders.

Matching terrariums…

Michael V said:

monkey skipper said:

buffy said:

OK, dogs have been fed. I’m going to the local cemetery to see if the yellow orchids survived the mowing a couple of weeks ago. Any that were still down low might by now be up. I know a few were up last week because another iNat person looked at them. Because he had seen my observations of them and was going through the district. He is an avid and longterm orchid person and was, shall we say ropeable about the mowing at that particular time. He has contacted the cemetery trust and let them know what he thinks…

My uncle has the knack with keeping orchids alive and usually gets them to flower as well..I wouldn’t say they’re my strength as far as plants go. But I think they are a group of plants with elegant flowers.

Orchidaceae is the largest family of flowering plants.

Don’t think so. Asteraceae (daisies) is a larger family AND is more widespread. Grasses and sedges have flowers too.

sees snakes is out, nearly trod on one, comes up to area where watering, real short grass did good job of hiding among, moves sprinkler did and puts nozzle on, standing there with nozzle has look behind, ooh hello snake, you camouflage, i’ll has a look at pictures now, not very venomous sort I thinks, and shy sort

transition said:

sees snakes is out, nearly trod on one, comes up to area where watering, real short grass did good job of hiding among, moves sprinkler did and puts nozzle on, standing there with nozzle has look behind, ooh hello snake, you camouflage, i’ll has a look at pictures now, not very venomous sort I thinks, and shy sort

There are quite a lot of snake photos going up in the Victorian section of iNaturalist in the past month. Tigers and browns mostly. And all nice and big and fat and gleaming. There must be plenty of food around.

buffy said:

transition said:

sees snakes is out, nearly trod on one, comes up to area where watering, real short grass did good job of hiding among, moves sprinkler did and puts nozzle on, standing there with nozzle has look behind, ooh hello snake, you camouflage, i’ll has a look at pictures now, not very venomous sort I thinks, and shy sort

There are quite a lot of snake photos going up in the Victorian section of iNaturalist in the past month. Tigers and browns mostly. And all nice and big and fat and gleaming. There must be plenty of food around.

there it is, off the bottom-left corner of inset, got it to uncover its head put putting hose on it

A successor to the Wollemi pine for people wanting to grow a rare Australian plant?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-01/act-conservation-on-the-brink-of-extinction-mongarlowe-mallee/102914872

AussieDJ said:

A successor to the Wollemi pine for people wanting to grow a rare Australian plant?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-01/act-conservation-on-the-brink-of-extinction-mongarlowe-mallee/102914872

Good job.

sarahs mum said:

update on first hubby’s younger brother found dead by wife when she got home from work. his wife got to spend most of last night at the police station. still no cause of death. I just told Sarah that autopsy was normal under those situations. Feel bad for his wife.

:(

Arts said:

two that say all standard.. that’s enough confirmation for me… thanks

oh boy how very wrong we were

sarahs mum said:

update on first hubby’s younger brother found dead by wife when she got home from work. his wife got to spend most of last night at the police station. still no cause of death. I just told Sarah that autopsy was normal under those situations. Feel bad for his wife.

Must have been a shock for her.

Arts said:

Arts said:

two that say all standard.. that’s enough confirmation for me… thanks

oh boy how very wrong we were

Oh dear.

buffy said:

Michael V said:

kii said:

Lol, yeah. I’ve literally spent the last 2 years going through the hubby’s collection of fittings, scraps of wood, metal…each thing started off as “we might need it one day”.

I do this, too. Now what can I do with not one, but two defunct glass kettles? There has to be some use for two-litre glass cylinders.

Matching terrariums…

:)

Ta.

Pretty good idea. All I have to do is cut the cords off, pack the soil in and grow something in the soil.

I may have to check for water leaks first.

When I moved into this house I replaced the grubby-looking toilet seat with a new one from eBay. Just a standard sort of one with the underside plastic wing nuts.

boppa said:

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Gosh!

That’s a high cliff.

Not too bad a memory.

162 m. The highest chalk sea cliff in Britain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beachy_Head

I used to live about 15 minutes drive from Minyan Falls in northern NSW, they are over 100m tall and you USED to be able to swim in both the top and bottom of it (now you can’t get closer than 100m to the top, bloody pikers)- when I was a kid you could swim in the top pool and actually look over the edge and wave at the people swimming in the bottom pool lol- (about 120m vertical drop)

Swimming in the bottom pool was interesting- you can swim directly under them- but man it stung like hell!!!

Was a LONG walk from the top to the bottom- a couple of hours, and one bit is literally a steel staircase bolted to a vertical rockface- a bit scary if you don’t have a good head for heights…

I’ve been there and swam up top. Mind, If had started raining anywhere nearby, I’d have to get out of the water fast.

PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

monkey skipper said:

My uncle has the knack with keeping orchids alive and usually gets them to flower as well..I wouldn’t say they’re my strength as far as plants go. But I think they are a group of plants with elegant flowers.

Orchidaceae is the largest family of flowering plants.

Don’t think so. Asteraceae (daisies) is a larger family AND is more widespread. Grasses and sedges have flowers too.

This is the true bit.

PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

monkey skipper said:

My uncle has the knack with keeping orchids alive and usually gets them to flower as well..I wouldn’t say they’re my strength as far as plants go. But I think they are a group of plants with elegant flowers.

Orchidaceae is the largest family of flowering plants.

Don’t think so. Asteraceae (daisies) is a larger family AND is more widespread. Grasses and sedges have flowers too.

A couple of years ago it was reported that with new orchid species described recently, Orchidaceae exceeded Asteraceae.

AussieDJ said:

A successor to the Wollemi pine for people wanting to grow a rare Australian plant?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-01/act-conservation-on-the-brink-of-extinction-mongarlowe-mallee/102914872

It has specific requirements that aren’t in every garden. There’s a huge lack of seeds, unlike the Wollemi pine.

An Evacuate Immediately warning is in place for Briagolong, Culloden, Moornapa and Cobbannah in Victoria.

ABC

Michael V said:

PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

Orchidaceae is the largest family of flowering plants.

Don’t think so. Asteraceae (daisies) is a larger family AND is more widespread. Grasses and sedges have flowers too.

A couple of years ago it was reported that with new orchid species described recently, Orchidaceae exceeded Asteraceae.

Well there you go.

Better a fremit freen than a freen fremit.

dv said:

Better a fremit freen than a freen fremit.

I’ll say.

good afternoon

dv said:

Better a fremit freen than a freen fremit.

I think that there’s something in that for all of us, don’t you?

monkey skipper said:

good afternoon

wot’s good about it?
/ it is a day out there

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Better a fremit freen than a freen fremit.

I’ll say.

I can’t say.

Got sweeties, soft jellies.

Unlike transition I’m happy to share my treats, so help yourself if you want one.

I expect sm can translate

Michael V said:

PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

Orchidaceae is the largest family of flowering plants.

Don’t think so. Asteraceae (daisies) is a larger family AND is more widespread. Grasses and sedges have flowers too.

A couple of years ago it was reported that with new orchid species described recently, Orchidaceae exceeded Asteraceae.

Around 32,000 Asteracae, 25,000 Orchidaceae.

PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

PermeateFree said:

Don’t think so. Asteraceae (daisies) is a larger family AND is more widespread. Grasses and sedges have flowers too.

A couple of years ago it was reported that with new orchid species described recently, Orchidaceae exceeded Asteraceae.

Around 32,000 Asteracae, 25,000 Orchidaceae.

With around 780 genera and around 12,000 species, the Poaceae is the fifth-largest plant family, following the Asteraceae, Orchidaceae, Fabaceae and Rubiaceae.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poaceae

Food report: I am about to put together some sausage rolls. They were going to be plain, but I think I’ll get a walking onion from the garden and snip it onto the pastry before the meat goes on. I have prepared Hollandaise sauce and picked asparagus. I haven’t decided if there will be anything else. I think the tomato sauce counts as “veggies” and there is quite a reasonable quantity of asparagus.

There have been some Hibbertia “discussions” going on at iNaturalist in the past couple of weeks. A proper taxonomist has just gone through my observations of Hibbertia sericea and Hibbertia virgata and corrected them to H. crinita and H. australis. It seems these were hived off the names I used on them sometime in the last few years. So I’ll have to readjust my identifying eyes. No big deal. The “discussions” are around Hibbertia fasciculata, which someone has decided to change all the IDs to Hibbertia prostrata. Which I do not agree with for Victorian observations as I prefer to go with VicFlora and the Royal Botanical Gardens than with someone online without qualifications. Here is the first part of the profile of the person I am disagreeing with. Most of his offerings are obtuse and difficult to understand.

——————————————————————————————————————-
It takes no intellectual genius nor philosophical genius nor any genius form of thinking to realise the basic reality that :
by the actual definition of the word :
Only the recipient can evaluate altruism (proffered).
.
“I am not what you think I am. You are what you think I am” – Zen Kōan.
In simplified, long winded, form, in English: That was your mode(s) of motivation, your own construal and mental imaginary projections of your own mode(s) of perceptions and your own mode(s) of thought, not mine!
.
I do not do demagoguery!!!
I prefer my own life – I do not covet any body nor any thing.
It’s no secret that a friend’s someone who’ll let you help.
It’s no secret that a liar won’t believe anyone else.
I am a culture-nature first hand lover, all my life,
inclusive of genuine compassionate humans.
(I am not for mediated nature).
——————————————————————————————

buffy said:

Food report: I am about to put together some sausage rolls. They were going to be plain, but I think I’ll get a walking onion from the garden and snip it onto the pastry before the meat goes on. I have prepared Hollandaise sauce and picked asparagus. I haven’t decided if there will be anything else. I think the tomato sauce counts as “veggies” and there is quite a reasonable quantity of asparagus.

There have been some Hibbertia “discussions” going on at iNaturalist in the past couple of weeks. A proper taxonomist has just gone through my observations of Hibbertia sericea and Hibbertia virgata and corrected them to H. crinita and H. australis. It seems these were hived off the names I used on them sometime in the last few years. So I’ll have to readjust my identifying eyes. No big deal. The “discussions” are around Hibbertia fasciculata, which someone has decided to change all the IDs to Hibbertia prostrata. Which I do not agree with for Victorian observations as I prefer to go with VicFlora and the Royal Botanical Gardens than with someone online without qualifications. Here is the first part of the profile of the person I am disagreeing with. Most of his offerings are obtuse and difficult to understand.

——————————————————————————————————————-
It takes no intellectual genius nor philosophical genius nor any genius form of thinking to realise the basic reality that :
by the actual definition of the word :
Only the recipient can evaluate altruism (proffered).
.
“I am not what you think I am. You are what you think I am” – Zen Kōan.
In simplified, long winded, form, in English: That was your mode(s) of motivation, your own construal and mental imaginary projections of your own mode(s) of perceptions and your own mode(s) of thought, not mine!
.
I do not do demagoguery!!!
I prefer my own life – I do not covet any body nor any thing.
It’s no secret that a friend’s someone who’ll let you help.
It’s no secret that a liar won’t believe anyone else.
I am a culture-nature first hand lover, all my life,
inclusive of genuine compassionate humans.
(I am not for mediated nature).
——————————————————————————————

But I do do exclamation marks!!!

:)

Just party pies + salad this end.

I’ll be having a couple of bangers, an egg and some fried tomato and onion
Washed down with a cup of tea (black and one)
Over.

There seem to be an awful lot of adult Anthrenus verbasci around atm; I haven’t seen any for a few years, in either adult or larval forms.

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ll be having a couple of bangers, an egg and some fried tomato and onion
Washed down with a cup of tea (black and one)
Over.

What breed of bangers?

btm said:

There seem to be an awful lot of adult Anthrenus verbasci around atm; I haven’t seen any for a few years, in either adult or larval forms.

Can’t say I’ve spotted any around here.

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ll be having a couple of bangers, an egg and some fried tomato and onion
Washed down with a cup of tea (black and one)
Over.

What breed of bangers?

Pork.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ll be having a couple of bangers, an egg and some fried tomato and onion
Washed down with a cup of tea (black and one)
Over.

What breed of bangers?

Pork.

Goodo. Careful with the fried tomato, you know how hot they get.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ll be having a couple of bangers, an egg and some fried tomato and onion
Washed down with a cup of tea (black and one)
Over.

What breed of bangers?

Pork.

I tried some kanga bangers at our last BBQ, actually quite nice…
Got them from Coles of all places lol
(I love cutting bangas open lengthwise, mix up an egg and pour it inside, add some cheese and cloves and a hint of garlic and cook… )

Bubblecar said:

Got sweeties, soft jellies.

Unlike transition I’m happy to share my treats, so help yourself if you want one.

mmm yummo

dv said:

I expect sm can translate

eh?

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

Got sweeties, soft jellies.

Unlike transition I’m happy to share my treats, so help yourself if you want one.

mmm yummo

one of my faves.

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

What breed of bangers?

Pork.

Goodo. Careful with the fried tomato, you know how hot they get.

Particularly if they’re green and you got them at the Whistlestop Cafe.

Bubblecar said:

Got sweeties, soft jellies.

Unlike transition I’m happy to share my treats, so help yourself if you want one.

evil bastard, trying to outshine me with outrageous generous gestures of sharing, inviting an audience for your good work and pointing the bone at me

you are inhabited by evil, a nasty evil person

humor alert^, for anyone that happens to reads that and is given to peculiarly literal interpretations of worded wordly words, steers thinkies derr

boppa said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

What breed of bangers?

Pork.

I tried some kanga bangers at our last BBQ, actually quite nice…
Got them from Coles of all places lol
(I love cutting bangas open lengthwise, mix up an egg and pour it inside, add some cheese and cloves and a hint of garlic and cook… )

Cloves. Would never have thought of that. What does it do for the flavour?

Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Pork.

Goodo. Careful with the fried tomato, you know how hot they get.

Particularly if they’re green and you got them at the Whistlestop Cafe.

Mmm, fried green tomatoes.

that clock says 6pm I sees
thereabouts yes is true
but who’d believe’t I askies
middle of a 23hour day
yesterdays were 5pm it be
of sun angle rays from
abrupt not ecliptic’ obliquity
what change did ya do
is calls’t temporal anomaly

PLACE PRIZEMONEY
1st $7 million
2nd $2.9 million
3rd $2 million
4th $1.5 million
5th $1.2 million
6th $950,000
7th-12th $700,000

The Everest prizemoney, you get 700 gorillas for running last.

i am ever so pleased that tomorrow is a day off! :) Sipping some Champayne …

sarahs mum said:

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

Got sweeties, soft jellies.

Unlike transition I’m happy to share my treats, so help yourself if you want one.

mmm yummo

one of my faves.

I group up with marella jubes which were shared amongst my brothers and sister and I..

monkey skipper said:

sarahs mum said:

monkey skipper said:

mmm yummo

one of my faves.

I group up with marella jubes which were shared amongst my brothers and sister and I..

these are softer. like the fruity ones that we used to get in a box.

one of the neighbours reports killing a tiger snake today. he was working in the tunnel house with spade when snake reared up at him. It wasn’t a get a snake relocated situation.

sarahs mum said:

one of the neighbours reports killing a tiger snake today. he was working in the tunnel house with spade when snake reared up at him. It wasn’t a get a snake relocated situation.

Sounds like a tense stand off…

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

I expect sm can translate

eh?

About freen and fremit

monkey skipper said:

sarahs mum said:

one of the neighbours reports killing a tiger snake today. he was working in the tunnel house with spade when snake reared up at him. It wasn’t a get a snake relocated situation.

Sounds like a tense stand off…

Rather like a Wild West shoot-out.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-01/croc-sex-frenzy-rockhampton-chinook-helicopter-aphrodisiac/102914902

headline win.

I am back… with lots of stuff.

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

I expect sm can translate

eh?

About freen and fremit

nup.

sarahs mum said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-01/croc-sex-frenzy-rockhampton-chinook-helicopter-aphrodisiac/102914902

headline win.

It’s all happening

party_pants said:

I am back… with lots of stuff.

Stuff that you actually want?

monkey skipper said:

i am ever so pleased that tomorrow is a day off! :) Sipping some Champayne …

Cheers.

captain_spalding said:

monkey skipper said:

sarahs mum said:

one of the neighbours reports killing a tiger snake today. he was working in the tunnel house with spade when snake reared up at him. It wasn’t a get a snake relocated situation.

Sounds like a tense stand off…

Rather like a Wild West shoot-out.

death by shovel it sounded like

party_pants said:

I am back… with lots of stuff.

nibblies?

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

I am back… with lots of stuff.

Stuff that you actually want?

A very small number of things I don’t already have, like a drill-bit sharpener. But most of the stuff I have already got at least one of.

monkey skipper said:

party_pants said:

I am back… with lots of stuff.

nibblies?

Tools and shed stuff. From my Dad’s place. He is planning to sell the house.

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

i am ever so pleased that tomorrow is a day off! :) Sipping some Champayne …

Cheers.

Having a tipple this evenin’ bubblecar? i took my daughter to the theatre to watch the Gershwin ballet / tap dancing , ballroom dancing orchestral performance thing..lastnight

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

i am ever so pleased that tomorrow is a day off! :) Sipping some Champayne …

Cheers.

Having a tipple this evenin’ bubblecar? i took my daughter to the theatre to watch the Gershwin ballet / tap dancing , ballroom dancing orchestral performance thing..lastnight

Back on the wagon this end. That sounds like an entertaining night out.

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

I am back… with lots of stuff.

Stuff that you actually want?

A very small number of things I don’t already have, like a drill-bit sharpener. But most of the stuff I have already got at least one of.

Oh well, now you have two of various things, which might come in handy.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

eh?

About freen and fremit

nup.

Better a fremit freend than a freend fremit—i.e., a stranger for a friend than a friend turned stranger.

https://www.bartleby.com/lit-hub/dictionary-of-quotations/authors/scotch-proverb/

39C tomorrow just up north apparently, 6C tonight, or morn, bit of temp swing in that, ABC TV reckons

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

Cheers.

Having a tipple this evenin’ bubblecar? i took my daughter to the theatre to watch the Gershwin ballet / tap dancing , ballroom dancing orchestral performance thing..lastnight

Back on the wagon this end. That sounds like an entertaining night out.

the costumes were colourful and a lot of sparkles. i did remind my daughter that when she was 4 years old at a performance at Sydney Opera House , that when the conductor bowed , she refused to clap him because he only waved his hands around and didn’t play any of the music or do any of the singing…

transition said:

39C tomorrow just up north apparently, 6C tonight, or morn, bit of temp swing in that, ABC TV reckons

Nasty.

We’re heading for 1 tonight, 18 tomorrow and windy again for a couple of days.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Stuff that you actually want?

A very small number of things I don’t already have, like a drill-bit sharpener. But most of the stuff I have already got at least one of.

Oh well, now you have two of various things, which might come in handy.

I don’t think there were any spare hands in amognst it though.

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

Having a tipple this evenin’ bubblecar? i took my daughter to the theatre to watch the Gershwin ballet / tap dancing , ballroom dancing orchestral performance thing..lastnight

Back on the wagon this end. That sounds like an entertaining night out.

the costumes were colourful and a lot of sparkles. i did remind my daughter that when she was 4 years old at a performance at Sydney Opera House , that when the conductor bowed , she refused to clap him because he only waved his hands around and didn’t play any of the music or do any of the singing…

Heh.

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

39C tomorrow just up north apparently, 6C tonight, or morn, bit of temp swing in that, ABC TV reckons

Nasty.

We’re heading for 1 tonight, 18 tomorrow and windy again for a couple of days.

wind hits nearly 41km/h dinner time, sundown, willyweather says

sounds like fun

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

About freen and fremit

nup.

Better a fremit freend than a freend fremit—i.e., a stranger for a friend than a friend turned stranger.

https://www.bartleby.com/lit-hub/dictionary-of-quotations/authors/scotch-proverb/

Nup, I hadn’t heard that one before.

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

39C tomorrow just up north apparently, 6C tonight, or morn, bit of temp swing in that, ABC TV reckons

Nasty.

We’re heading for 1 tonight, 18 tomorrow and windy again for a couple of days.

wind hits nearly 41km/h dinner time, sundown, willyweather says

sounds like fun

don’t start a fire tomorrow, ruin peoples day and night

Seems to be raining here.

heron gots itself goodly size yabby while over there shortly ago

transition said:

heron gots itself goodly size yabby while over there shortly ago

That’ll be a tasty feed with a bit of tartare sauce.

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

heron gots itself goodly size yabby while over there shortly ago

That’ll be a tasty feed with a bit of tartare sauce.

then drink wash it down

transition said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Nasty.

We’re heading for 1 tonight, 18 tomorrow and windy again for a couple of days.

wind hits nearly 41km/h dinner time, sundown, willyweather says

sounds like fun

don’t start a fire tomorrow, ruin peoples day and night

Brass monkey weather there by the sounds of it…

15C minimum overnight last night, 32C max during the day

wow nrl grand final

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

nup.

Better a fremit freend than a freend fremit—i.e., a stranger for a friend than a friend turned stranger.

https://www.bartleby.com/lit-hub/dictionary-of-quotations/authors/scotch-proverb/

Nup, I hadn’t heard that one before.

The sassenachs have got to you

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Better a fremit freend than a freend fremit—i.e., a stranger for a friend than a friend turned stranger.

https://www.bartleby.com/lit-hub/dictionary-of-quotations/authors/scotch-proverb/

Nup, I hadn’t heard that one before.

The sassenachs have got to you

I doubt that.

party_pants said:

Seems to be raining here.

A few showers here, but windy. 50kmh, gusting to 70kmh.

Cape Leeuwin is 75kmh to 93 kmh.

Kingy said:

party_pants said:

Seems to be raining here.

A few showers here, but windy. 50kmh, gusting to 70kmh.

Cape Leeuwin is 75kmh to 93 kmh.

Nasty. Difficult to walk upright with those wind gusts.

On the upside, I managed to get some more javascript done on my island-maker program. I haven’t touched it for nearly a year, but was able to debug a few subroutines and get it to produce a result.

Kingy said:

On the upside, I managed to get some more javascript done on my island-maker program. I haven’t touched it for nearly a year, but was able to debug a few subroutines and get it to produce a result.

good

Kingy said:

On the upside, I managed to get some more javascript done on my island-maker program. I haven’t touched it for nearly a year, but was able to debug a few subroutines and get it to produce a result.

Ah, this forum software won’t let me post the source code, as it tries to run some of it.

Got doorknocked by a lovely senior citizen spruiking for the Greens candidate in a local government area election.

Kingy said:

Kingy said:

On the upside, I managed to get some more javascript done on my island-maker program. I haven’t touched it for nearly a year, but was able to debug a few subroutines and get it to produce a result.

Ah, this forum software won’t let me post the source code, as it tries to run some of it.

Some of the results:

Kingy said:

Kingy said:

Kingy said:

On the upside, I managed to get some more javascript done on my island-maker program. I haven’t touched it for nearly a year, but was able to debug a few subroutines and get it to produce a result.

Ah, this forum software won’t let me post the source code, as it tries to run some of it.

Some of the results:

good

dv said:

Got doorknocked by a lovely senior citizen spruiking for the Greens candidate in a local government area election.

Love.

I love the way the right wing portrays the Greens as unemployed and unwashed. Cept you go a meeting and everyone is older than you are.

dv said:

Kingy said:

Kingy said:

Ah, this forum software won’t let me post the source code, as it tries to run some of it.

Some of the results:

good

agreed.

Would be good to see the code. Maybe a link to a download site?

What prompted you to start coding islands?

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Kingy said:

Some of the results:

good

agreed.

Would be good to see the code. Maybe a link to a download site?

What prompted you to start coding islands?

If you’re open to criticism, they all seem equant, whereas some islands in real life are elongate, partly because of the underlying geology.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Kingy said:

Some of the results:

good

agreed.

Would be good to see the code. Maybe a link to a download site?

What prompted you to start coding islands?

In the 80’s/90’s I was doing a uni course on programming, but had to drop out in order to earn a living. While I was driving around the countryside during my day job, I looked at the contours and streams and realised that I could do a reasonable copy using software. I was using an Amiga at the time and wrote a program that produced a pretty reasonable result, but the hard drive failed and I lost all the code.

A few decades later, and I have decided to have another go with a different language. Having to learn Javascript has been a bit of a hassle, but I’m slowly getting my head around it.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

good

agreed.

Would be good to see the code. Maybe a link to a download site?

What prompted you to start coding islands?

If you’re open to criticism, they all seem equant, whereas some islands in real life are elongate, partly because of the underlying geology.

Yep, I’ve only just got it working. There’s a few subroutines that haven’t been coded yet. So far I have:

A mound in the middle(Big Sine)
Lumpiness (Small Sines)
Multiple oblong mounds (Sines)
Smoothing (Each pixel is averaged by it’s neighbouring pixels)
Every pixel below “Sea” level is sea.

To be done:

Rivers, my favourite: Pick a spot and paint blue pixels “downhill” from there.
Earthquakes: Disrupt part of the island.

The game in future:

There are two random places, and two “coastal” places, and you have to build “roads” between them. Much like railroad tycoon in the 90’s.

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10160365757413451&set=pcb.10160365759063451

Link

A child counsellor shared some things that her young clients have said during their sessions.

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10160365757413451&set=pcb.10160365759063451

Link

A child counsellor shared some things that her young clients have said during their sessions.

People are not born “natural parents”. So much generational trauma and poor parenting is evident everywhere.
Like in supermarkets ….

Good morning Holidayers. Presently it is 4 degrees at the back door, no wind, and it’s starting to get light. We are forecast a sunny 26 degrees today.

I will probably do some more weeding and mowing this morning before it gets too hot for me outside.

Morning. 12 degrees here at the moment.

A few small dampish clouds moving closer. Crosses fingers for more than five spots on a paver.

mood gorning, blackbirds I hears, kettle nearly whistled but I muzzled’t not wants to unsleep the lady, diurnal ruin

I eats and drinks now, pours coffee sounds like good start

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently it is 4 degrees at the back door, no wind, and it’s starting to get light. We are forecast a sunny 26 degrees today.

I will probably do some more weeding and mowing this morning before it gets too hot for me outside.

Brrrr- no thanks
Currently a nippy 15C at the moment here, nice 33C top expected

boppa said:

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently it is 4 degrees at the back door, no wind, and it’s starting to get light. We are forecast a sunny 26 degrees today.

I will probably do some more weeding and mowing this morning before it gets too hot for me outside.

Brrrr- no thanks
Currently a nippy 15C at the moment here, nice 33C top expected

Good morning everybody.

It’s 20.1°C, 72% RH, mostly cloudy and calm here. BoM forecasts a top of 25°C and a 5% chance of rain.

I might cut my hair if I can find the energy.

I’ve bought a vice.

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ve bought a vice.

Gripping news.

Actually, i may be in the market for a new vice. I sort of bent the jaws of the little one that i have by a small degree, enough to be a nuisance.

If Mrs S asks me what i want for my birthday in several weeks’ time, i may ask for a new one.

So, what brand did you get, what price, where bought?

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ve bought a vice.

Gripping news.

My orbital vice is coming with me. I love it.

captain_spalding said:

Actually, i may be in the market for a new vice. I sort of bent the jaws of the little one that i have by a small degree, enough to be a nuisance.

If Mrs S asks me what i want for my birthday in several weeks’ time, i may ask for a new one.

So, what brand did you get, what price, where bought?

They aren’t a very complex device, just get one that’s the size you need.

https://www.tradetools.com/search?query=vice

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

Actually, i may be in the market for a new vice. I sort of bent the jaws of the little one that i have by a small degree, enough to be a nuisance.

If Mrs S asks me what i want for my birthday in several weeks’ time, i may ask for a new one.

So, what brand did you get, what price, where bought?

They aren’t a very complex device, just get one that’s the size you need.

https://www.tradetools.com/search?query=vice

By coincidence, I was just looking at that very page on the the Trade Tools website.

I like the Trade Tools shop here in Toowoomba. They’re very helpful, and their prices are quite reasonable, with something to suit everyone from occasional hobbyist to full-time tradespeople.

I had thought of making vices and selling then at one point.

If you have the bending tool and a welder you are more than halfway there. You’d need a milling machine for the jaws so it presents a flat and true surface.

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

Actually, i may be in the market for a new vice. I sort of bent the jaws of the little one that i have by a small degree, enough to be a nuisance.

If Mrs S asks me what i want for my birthday in several weeks’ time, i may ask for a new one.

So, what brand did you get, what price, where bought?

They aren’t a very complex device, just get one that’s the size you need.

https://www.tradetools.com/search?query=vice

By coincidence, I was just looking at that very page on the the Trade Tools website.

I like the Trade Tools shop here in Toowoomba. They’re very helpful, and their prices are quite reasonable, with something to suit everyone from occasional hobbyist to full-time tradespeople.

Yep. If you haven’t used one before I’d recommend an offset vice, as they allow you to hold very long things vertically.

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

They aren’t a very complex device, just get one that’s the size you need.

https://www.tradetools.com/search?query=vice

By coincidence, I was just looking at that very page on the the Trade Tools website.

I like the Trade Tools shop here in Toowoomba. They’re very helpful, and their prices are quite reasonable, with something to suit everyone from occasional hobbyist to full-time tradespeople.

Yep. If you haven’t used one before I’d recommend an offset vice, as they allow you to hold very long things vertically.

If you’re in need of a fractal vice, I can 3D print one out of plastic. :)

Spiny Norman said:

Yep. If you haven’t used one before I’d recommend an offset vice, as they allow you to hold very long things vertically.

Yes, i was thinking about that. They don’t have the little anvil bit that can be useful at times. but i could keep my current vice around as well.

Spiny Norman said:

If you’re in need of a fractal vice, I can 3D print one out of plastic. :)

Thanks for the kind offer, but my skills as a craftsman aren’t such as to be likely to require such a specialised item.

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ve bought a vice.

Don’t get into trouble with the Police about it.

Greetings

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ve bought a vice.

Don’t get into trouble with the Police about it.

Late 1970s British rock musicians aren’t usually in a position to comment on how other people spend their time.

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

If you’re in need of a fractal vice, I can 3D print one out of plastic. :)

Thanks for the kind offer, but my skills as a craftsman aren’t such as to be likely to require such a specialised item.

They do come in handy at times, when you need to hold an oddly-shaped part. I don’t have the gear to make one out of metal is it’s limited to lightly-clamped loads.

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

They aren’t a very complex device, just get one that’s the size you need.

https://www.tradetools.com/search?query=vice

By coincidence, I was just looking at that very page on the the Trade Tools website.

I like the Trade Tools shop here in Toowoomba. They’re very helpful, and their prices are quite reasonable, with something to suit everyone from occasional hobbyist to full-time tradespeople.

Yep. If you haven’t used one before I’d recommend an offset vice, as they allow you to hold very long things vertically.

I’m going to mount it in the tow bar, that way you can turn it through 90 degrees.

Peak Warming Man said:

I’m going to mount it in the tow bar, that way you can turn it through 90 degrees.

Ooh, there’s an idea.

Mount it on a tow-bar tongue fixed to the workbench, so that it’s got more working space around it, more room to rotate,

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

If you’re in need of a fractal vice, I can 3D print one out of plastic. :)

Thanks for the kind offer, but my skills as a craftsman aren’t such as to be likely to require such a specialised item.

The good thing about a fractal vise is that it will grip any shape.

Peak Warming Man said:

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

By coincidence, I was just looking at that very page on the the Trade Tools website.

I like the Trade Tools shop here in Toowoomba. They’re very helpful, and their prices are quite reasonable, with something to suit everyone from occasional hobbyist to full-time tradespeople.

Yep. If you haven’t used one before I’d recommend an offset vice, as they allow you to hold very long things vertically.

I’m going to mount it in the tow bar, that way you can turn it through 90 degrees.

Ah, so not bench-mounted.
Have another look at the link to those vices, some of them are on a rotating base so you could get all sorts of angles with your mount.

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

If you’re in need of a fractal vice, I can 3D print one out of plastic. :)

Thanks for the kind offer, but my skills as a craftsman aren’t such as to be likely to require such a specialised item.

They do come in handy at times, when you need to hold an oddly-shaped part. I don’t have the gear to make one out of metal is it’s limited to lightly-clamped loads.

Have you already printed one for yourself?

Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

If you’re in need of a fractal vice, I can 3D print one out of plastic. :)

Thanks for the kind offer, but my skills as a craftsman aren’t such as to be likely to require such a specialised item.

The good thing about a fractal vise is that it will grip any shape.

I’m tempted to design an otherwise plain vice that has very long jaws, but has the slider gear on the ends instead of the middle so you can put large things in it. Synchronise each end with a bicycle chain, with the chain tensioner on the slack side so the tension side is used when clamping.

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

captain_spalding said:

Thanks for the kind offer, but my skills as a craftsman aren’t such as to be likely to require such a specialised item.

They do come in handy at times, when you need to hold an oddly-shaped part. I don’t have the gear to make one out of metal is it’s limited to lightly-clamped loads.

Have you already printed one for yourself?

Yep, I just can’t find the photos easily, though I just realised where I can find them. Back in a minute.

I sees lot of bees on the green cedar trees’ blossomies

Spiny Norman said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Spiny Norman said:

Yep. If you haven’t used one before I’d recommend an offset vice, as they allow you to hold very long things vertically.

I’m going to mount it in the tow bar, that way you can turn it through 90 degrees.

Ah, so not bench-mounted.
Have another look at the link to those vices, some of them are on a rotating base so you could get all sorts of angles with your mount.

It’s a going to be a mobile vice so that I can drive it around the property. I dont have a work bench up there as such.

Spiny Norman said:

Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Thanks for the kind offer, but my skills as a craftsman aren’t such as to be likely to require such a specialised item.

The good thing about a fractal vise is that it will grip any shape.

I’m tempted to design an otherwise plain vice that has very long jaws, but has the slider gear on the ends instead of the middle so you can put large things in it. Synchronise each end with a bicycle chain, with the chain tensioner on the slack side so the tension side is used when clamping.

I can’t visualise that.

transition said:

I sees lot of bees on the green cedar trees’ blossomies

white cedars should say, I’s just out of bed, got brain derr

Here’s a couple.

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Michael V said:

The good thing about a fractal vise is that it will grip any shape.

I’m tempted to design an otherwise plain vice that has very long jaws, but has the slider gear on the ends instead of the middle so you can put large things in it. Synchronise each end with a bicycle chain, with the chain tensioner on the slack side so the tension side is used when clamping.

I can’t visualise that.

I’ll draw it up sometime and how you what I mean.

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Michael V said:

The good thing about a fractal vise is that it will grip any shape.

I’m tempted to design an otherwise plain vice that has very long jaws, but has the slider gear on the ends instead of the middle so you can put large things in it. Synchronise each end with a bicycle chain, with the chain tensioner on the slack side so the tension side is used when clamping.

I can’t visualise that.

No, i’m struggling with it, too.

Peak Warming Man said:

Spiny Norman said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’m going to mount it in the tow bar, that way you can turn it through 90 degrees.

Ah, so not bench-mounted.
Have another look at the link to those vices, some of them are on a rotating base so you could get all sorts of angles with your mount.

It’s a going to be a mobile vice so that I can drive it around the property. I don’t have a work bench up there as such.

I had a vise mounted on the roo bar of the Landcruiser. It was useful in the bush.

Spiny Norman said:

Here’s a couple.

Nice one

Spiny Norman said:

Here’s a couple.

Wow!

Well done!

Looks amazing.

:)

Spiny Norman said:

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

I’m tempted to design an otherwise plain vice that has very long jaws, but has the slider gear on the ends instead of the middle so you can put large things in it. Synchronise each end with a bicycle chain, with the chain tensioner on the slack side so the tension side is used when clamping.

I can’t visualise that.

I’ll draw it up sometime and how you what I mean.

OK, ta.

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Here’s a couple.

Wow!

Well done!

Looks amazing.

:)

Ta!

Too warm for me outside now. I’ve done some more edging and weeding in the front yard. The FOGO bin is full for tomorrow’s pickup. I’ve mowed the front yard. That is enough active stuff for today.

FWIW this is similar to the large vice I want to build, but mine one has the big screw removed from the middle and moved to the ends so there’s a large gap in the middle.

Well at least Australia managed to beat Portugal and that’s the last of their matches.

Technically the Wallabies have not been eliminated. If, somehow, Portugal beats Fiji then Australia will go through.

Spiny Norman said:

FWIW this is similar to the large vice I want to build, but mine one has the big screw removed from the middle and moved to the ends so there’s a large gap in the middle.

I see, and the chain drive is between the screws. Ta.

I gots the airconditioner goin’
evaporates ‘em hotly monstas
do’t does takes water some
yeah’s expands’t how be what
in abstract cubic centimetre
of water if ya imagines that as
see so making’t larger thing
energy distribute over more lot
the same ‘appen on ya skin
magic you gets ‘frigeration has
yes liquids’s phase changin’
exploitin’ transition that you got
similar’t perhaps be happen
on those nosecone of a rocket
maybe I considerin’ ablation

transition said:

I gots the airconditioner goin’
evaporates ‘em hotly monstas
do’t does takes water some
yeah’s expands’t how be what
in abstract cubic centimetre
of water if ya imagines that as
see so making’t larger thing
energy distribute over more lot
the same ‘appen on ya skin
magic you gets ‘frigeration has
yes liquids’s phase changin’
exploitin’ transition that you got
similar’t perhaps be happen
on those nosecone of a rocket
maybe I considerin’ ablation

That reminds me. I’ll have to replace the motor and maybe the whole thing.

Further update on Auntie Annie’s. We must be getting very close to handover. The local junk people are there cleaning out the leftover stuff from the clearing sale the other day. There were three flatpack bookshelves, not great quality, but in good nick that they have just smashed to bits. And a TV stand. The auctioneers couldn’t get a bid on them. In this town the polite thing to do is to put them outside your gate with a “FREE!” sign on them and they get repurposed by someone else. They would have been useful shed cabinetry for someone. It seems Annie’s sons don’t think like locals. The sister of the new owner, who lives down the road here, told us she is going to do a walk through for her sister on Wednesday. We told her to make sure the garden as well as the house is in the state it was in when they made their offer. Some whipper snippering was done before the clearing sale, but it’s certainly not in the state I left it in some months ago.

Maybe we will meet the new people on the weekend if settlement is the end of this week.

It’s pretty ugly.

buffy said:

Further update on Auntie Annie’s. We must be getting very close to handover. The local junk people are there cleaning out the leftover stuff from the clearing sale the other day. There were three flatpack bookshelves, not great quality, but in good nick that they have just smashed to bits. And a TV stand. The auctioneers couldn’t get a bid on them. In this town the polite thing to do is to put them outside your gate with a “FREE!” sign on them and they get repurposed by someone else. They would have been useful shed cabinetry for someone. It seems Annie’s sons don’t think like locals. The sister of the new owner, who lives down the road here, told us she is going to do a walk through for her sister on Wednesday. We told her to make sure the garden as well as the house is in the state it was in when they made their offer. Some whipper snippering was done before the clearing sale, but it’s certainly not in the state I left it in some months ago.

Maybe we will meet the new people on the weekend if settlement is the end of this week.

Are they going to live there.

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Further update on Auntie Annie’s. We must be getting very close to handover. The local junk people are there cleaning out the leftover stuff from the clearing sale the other day. There were three flatpack bookshelves, not great quality, but in good nick that they have just smashed to bits. And a TV stand. The auctioneers couldn’t get a bid on them. In this town the polite thing to do is to put them outside your gate with a “FREE!” sign on them and they get repurposed by someone else. They would have been useful shed cabinetry for someone. It seems Annie’s sons don’t think like locals. The sister of the new owner, who lives down the road here, told us she is going to do a walk through for her sister on Wednesday. We told her to make sure the garden as well as the house is in the state it was in when they made their offer. Some whipper snippering was done before the clearing sale, but it’s certainly not in the state I left it in some months ago.

Maybe we will meet the new people on the weekend if settlement is the end of this week.

Are they going to live there.

Yes. It’s a lady and her husband. The fellow has dementia and is to be cared for at home. We have been warned he can be a bit shouty. No big deal, both of us worked with many elderly folk. We can cope. Their son will be here first to fix up the bathroom. He is a builder. That’s about all I know so far.

Pretty amazing body control.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-02/simone-biles-makes-history-with-yurchenko-double-pike/102923618

Fences have now been erected around the stump to stop it being damaged and to prevent souvenir hunters from taking pieces of the tree home with them.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/oct/01/sapling-planted-at-sycamore-gap-removed-by-national-trust

Wayne Brookes
1 h ·
‘The Green, Green Glass of Home’ is finished…

sarahs mum said:

Wayne Brookes
1 h ·
‘The Green, Green Glass of Home’ is finished…

It’s one of the better ones.

Tommy Fleetwood and Rory McIlroy win secured the Ryder Cup.
Known as Fleetwood Mac.

sarahs mum said:

Wayne Brookes
1 h ·
‘The Green, Green Glass of Home’ is finished…

Garth Brookes
1h
Pickup trucks, hound dawgs, whisky and moonshine

Strange as it may seem I just made myself a Baileys with milk.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/657863472780603?mibextid=BhObA4

Stop being such a struntz

sarahs mum said:

Strange as it may seem I just made myself a Baileys with milk.

Monday drinking, ooh. Cheers :)

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Strange as it may seem I just made myself a Baileys with milk.

Monday drinking, ooh. Cheers :)

I had one of these last month too.

Quite a varied eggmess tonight. Red capsicum, peas, chopped savoy, sliced pork sausage, 2 x eggs, seasonings.

Bubblecar said:

Quite a varied eggmess tonight. Red capsicum, peas, chopped savoy, sliced pork sausage, 2 x eggs, seasonings.

I’m having something very similar, use up those pork sausages.

Bubblecar said:

Quite a varied eggmess tonight. Red capsicum, peas, chopped savoy, sliced pork sausage, 2 x eggs, seasonings.

Would having a bread and butter pudding be that different to having scrambled eggs on toast followed by jam on toast?

BREAKING:

‘Dan Hamdrews’ wins first place in Walbundrie Show pig races.

more to come

A 22-year-old man was found with significant facial burns after he was reportedly set on fire by another man who was trying to ignite an aerosol nearby

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/oct/02/deni-ute-muster-2023-man-in-serious-condition-after-allegedly-being-set-alight-on-fire

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Quite a varied eggmess tonight. Red capsicum, peas, chopped savoy, sliced pork sausage, 2 x eggs, seasonings.

Would having a bread and butter pudding be that different to having scrambled eggs on toast followed by jam on toast?

Depends on the quantity scoffed, I suppose.

dv said:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/657863472780603?mibextid=BhObA4

Stop being such a struntz

I don’t know.

Didn’t seem that funny.

I guess I’m just missing something.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Quite a varied eggmess tonight. Red capsicum, peas, chopped savoy, sliced pork sausage, 2 x eggs, seasonings.

I’m having something very similar, use up those pork sausages.

Mr buffy is cook. He is barbecuing some midloin chops. And I think he’s making salad.

2h ago
15.44 AEDT
Australia records driest-ever month
Lisa Cox
Lisa Cox
September was Australia’s driest month since records began with a national average rainfall of just 4.83mm.

To find the second driest month since records began in 1900 we have to go back to April 1902 when a national average of 4.88mm was recorded.

The Bureau of Meteorology said September was dominated by high pressure systems which brought settled weather conditions and cloudless skies for most of the country. Combined with a positive Indian Ocean dipole, the recently declared El Niño and the long-term influence of climate change, that meant total rainfall was 70.8% below the long-term average for September.

The national mean temperature was also 2.43C above average, making the past month Australia’s third warmest September on record.

In some states, those temperatures pushed higher still. Western Australia recorded its warmest September on record and New South Wales and Victoria their second warmest. Those three states also recorded their hottest September days on record.

The mean maximum temperature nationally was 3.38C above average, the second highest on record for the month of September.

Climatology specialist Nadine D’Argent said “the high pressure systems were the main influence for our warm and dry weather across Australia throughout September”.

The influence of El Niño and a positive Indian Ocean dipole means the long term Spring outlook for most of the country is for below median rainfall and above median maximum temperatures.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/657863472780603?mibextid=BhObA4

Stop being such a struntz

I don’t know.

Didn’t seem that funny.

I guess I’m just missing something.

It’s pretty straightforward

Better go for my afternoon constitutional and when I come home I’ll cook tea..

sarahs mum said:

2h ago
15.44 AEDT
Australia records driest-ever month
Lisa Cox
Lisa Cox
September was Australia’s driest month since records began with a national average rainfall of just 4.83mm.

To find the second driest month since records began in 1900 we have to go back to April 1902 when a national average of 4.88mm was recorded.

The Bureau of Meteorology said September was dominated by high pressure systems which brought settled weather conditions and cloudless skies for most of the country. Combined with a positive Indian Ocean dipole, the recently declared El Niño and the long-term influence of climate change, that meant total rainfall was 70.8% below the long-term average for September.

The national mean temperature was also 2.43C above average, making the past month Australia’s third warmest September on record.

In some states, those temperatures pushed higher still. Western Australia recorded its warmest September on record and New South Wales and Victoria their second warmest. Those three states also recorded their hottest September days on record.

The mean maximum temperature nationally was 3.38C above average, the second highest on record for the month of September.

Climatology specialist Nadine D’Argent said “the high pressure systems were the main influence for our warm and dry weather across Australia throughout September”.

The influence of El Niño and a positive Indian Ocean dipole means the long term Spring outlook for most of the country is for below median rainfall and above median maximum temperatures.

We’ll all be rooned.

sarahs mum said:

2h ago
15.44 AEDT
Australia records driest-ever month
Lisa Cox
Lisa Cox
September was Australia’s driest month since records began with a national average rainfall of just 4.83mm.

To find the second driest month since records began in 1900 we have to go back to April 1902 when a national average of 4.88mm was recorded.

The Bureau of Meteorology said September was dominated by high pressure systems which brought settled weather conditions and cloudless skies for most of the country. Combined with a positive Indian Ocean dipole, the recently declared El Niño and the long-term influence of climate change, that meant total rainfall was 70.8% below the long-term average for September.

The national mean temperature was also 2.43C above average, making the past month Australia’s third warmest September on record.

In some states, those temperatures pushed higher still. Western Australia recorded its warmest September on record and New South Wales and Victoria their second warmest. Those three states also recorded their hottest September days on record.

The mean maximum temperature nationally was 3.38C above average, the second highest on record for the month of September.

Climatology specialist Nadine D’Argent said “the high pressure systems were the main influence for our warm and dry weather across Australia throughout September”.

The influence of El Niño and a positive Indian Ocean dipole means the long term Spring outlook for most of the country is for below median rainfall and above median maximum temperatures.

We’ll all be rooned.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Quite a varied eggmess tonight. Red capsicum, peas, chopped savoy, sliced pork sausage, 2 x eggs, seasonings.

I’m having something very similar, use up those pork sausages.

With eggs and chips

sarahs mum said:

2h ago
15.44 AEDT
Australia records driest-ever month
Lisa Cox
Lisa Cox
September was Australia’s driest month since records began with a national average rainfall of just 4.83mm.

To find the second driest month since records began in 1900 we have to go back to April 1902 when a national average of 4.88mm was recorded.

The Bureau of Meteorology said September was dominated by high pressure systems which brought settled weather conditions and cloudless skies for most of the country. Combined with a positive Indian Ocean dipole, the recently declared El Niño and the long-term influence of climate change, that meant total rainfall was 70.8% below the long-term average for September.

The national mean temperature was also 2.43C above average, making the past month Australia’s third warmest September on record.

In some states, those temperatures pushed higher still. Western Australia recorded its warmest September on record and New South Wales and Victoria their second warmest. Those three states also recorded their hottest September days on record.

The mean maximum temperature nationally was 3.38C above average, the second highest on record for the month of September.

Climatology specialist Nadine D’Argent said “the high pressure systems were the main influence for our warm and dry weather across Australia throughout September”.

The influence of El Niño and a positive Indian Ocean dipole means the long term Spring outlook for most of the country is for below median rainfall and above median maximum temperatures.

:-(
Another ‘black summer’ in the making I fear…
We haven’t had any rain (and I mean nothing) here for months (i think it was July??, maybe June???)

good evening

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

2h ago
15.44 AEDT
Australia records driest-ever month
Lisa Cox
Lisa Cox
September was Australia’s driest month since records began with a national average rainfall of just 4.83mm.

To find the second driest month since records began in 1900 we have to go back to April 1902 when a national average of 4.88mm was recorded.

The Bureau of Meteorology said September was dominated by high pressure systems which brought settled weather conditions and cloudless skies for most of the country. Combined with a positive Indian Ocean dipole, the recently declared El Niño and the long-term influence of climate change, that meant total rainfall was 70.8% below the long-term average for September.

The national mean temperature was also 2.43C above average, making the past month Australia’s third warmest September on record.

In some states, those temperatures pushed higher still. Western Australia recorded its warmest September on record and New South Wales and Victoria their second warmest. Those three states also recorded their hottest September days on record.

The mean maximum temperature nationally was 3.38C above average, the second highest on record for the month of September.

Climatology specialist Nadine D’Argent said “the high pressure systems were the main influence for our warm and dry weather across Australia throughout September”.

The influence of El Niño and a positive Indian Ocean dipole means the long term Spring outlook for most of the country is for below median rainfall and above median maximum temperatures.

We’ll all be rooned.

Not if we can have enough gas pipelines and coal mines.

https://home.cern/news/news/physics/alpha-experiment-cern-observes-influence-gravity-antimatter

https://videos.cern.ch/record/2298631

ALPHA experiment at CERN observes the influence of gravity on antimatter
The result is a milestone in the study of the properties and behaviour of antimatter

27 SEPTEMBER, 2023

Isaac Newton’s historic work on gravity was apparently inspired by watching an apple fall to the ground from a tree. But what about an “anti-apple” made of antimatter, would it fall in the same way if it existed? According to Albert Einstein’s much-tested theory of general relativity, the modern theory of gravity, antimatter and matter should fall to Earth in the same way. But do they, or are there other long-range forces beyond gravity that affect their free fall?

In a paper published today in Nature, the ALPHA collaboration at CERN’s Antimatter Factory shows that, within the precision of their experiment, atoms of antihydrogen – a positron orbiting an antiproton – fall to Earth in the same way as their matter equivalents.

“In physics, you don’t really know something until you observe it,” says ALPHA spokesperson Jeffrey Hangst. “This is the first direct experiment to actually observe a gravitational effect on the motion of antimatter. It’s a milestone in the study of antimatter, which still mystifies us due to its apparent absence in the Universe.”

Gravity is the attractive force between any two objects with mass. It is by far the weakest of the four fundamental forces of nature. Antihydrogen atoms are electrically neutral and stable particles of antimatter. These properties make them ideal systems in which to study the gravitational behaviour of antimatter.

The ALPHA collaboration creates antihydrogen atoms by taking negatively charged antiprotons, produced and slowed down in the Antimatter Factory’s AD and ELENA machines, and binding them with positively charged positrons accumulated from a sodium-22 source. It then confines the neutral – but slightly magnetic – antimatter atoms in a magnetic trap, which prevents them from coming into contact with matter and annihilating.

Until now, the team has concentrated on spectroscopic studies in the ALPHA-2 device, shining laser light or microwaves onto the antihydrogen atoms to measure their internal structure. But the ALPHA team has also built a vertical apparatus called ALPHA-g, which received its first antiprotons in 2018 and was commissioned in 2021. The ‘g’ denotes the local acceleration of gravity, which, for matter, is about 9.81 metres per second squared. This apparatus makes it possible to measure the vertical positions at which the antihydrogen atoms annihilate with matter once the trap’s magnetic field is switched off, allowing the atoms to escape.

This is exactly what the ALPHA researchers did in their new investigation, following a proof-of-principle experiment with the original ALPHA set-up in 2013. They trapped groups of about 100 antihydrogen atoms, one group at a time, and then slowly released the atoms over a period of 20 seconds by gradually ramping down the current in the top and bottom magnets of the trap. Computer simulations of the ALPHA-g set-up indicate that, for matter, this operation would result in about 20% of the atoms exiting through the top of the trap and 80% through the bottom, a difference caused by the downward force of gravity. By averaging the results of seven release trials, the ALPHA team found that the fractions of anti-atoms exiting through the top and bottom were in line with the results of the simulations.

The full study involved repeating the experiment several times for different values of an additional “bias” magnetic field, which could either enhance or counteract the force of gravity. By analysing the data from this “bias scan”, the team found that, within the precision of the current experiment (about 20% of g), the acceleration of an antihydrogen atom is consistent with the familiar, attractive gravitational force between matter and the Earth.

“It has taken us 30 years to learn how to make this anti-atom, to hold on to it, and to control it well enough that we could actually drop it in a way that it would be sensitive to the force of gravity,” says Hangst. “The next step is to measure the acceleration as precisely as we can,” continues Hangst. “We want to test whether matter and antimatter do indeed fall in the same way. Laser-cooling of antihydrogen atoms, which we first demonstrated in ALPHA-2 and will implement in ALPHA-g when we return to it in 2024, is expected to have a significant impact on the precision.”

CERN’s Antimatter Factory is a unique facility in the world for producing and studying antimatter. Two other experiments at this facility, AEgIS and GBAR, share with ALPHA the goal of measuring with high precision the gravitational acceleration of atomic antimatter. Also at the Antimatter Factory is the BASE experiment. Its main focus is to compare with high precision the properties of the proton with those of its antimatter twin, and it has recently compared the gravitational behaviour of these two particles.

monkey skipper said:

https://home.cern/news/news/physics/alpha-experiment-cern-observes-influence-gravity-antimatter

https://videos.cern.ch/record/2298631

ALPHA experiment at CERN observes the influence of gravity on antimatter
The result is a milestone in the study of the properties and behaviour of antimatter

27 SEPTEMBER, 2023

Isaac Newton’s historic work on gravity was apparently inspired by watching an apple fall to the ground from a tree. But what about an “anti-apple” made of antimatter, would it fall in the same way if it existed? According to Albert Einstein’s much-tested theory of general relativity, the modern theory of gravity, antimatter and matter should fall to Earth in the same way. But do they, or are there other long-range forces beyond gravity that affect their free fall?

In a paper published today in Nature, the ALPHA collaboration at CERN’s Antimatter Factory shows that, within the precision of their experiment, atoms of antihydrogen – a positron orbiting an antiproton – fall to Earth in the same way as their matter equivalents.

“In physics, you don’t really know something until you observe it,” says ALPHA spokesperson Jeffrey Hangst. “This is the first direct experiment to actually observe a gravitational effect on the motion of antimatter. It’s a milestone in the study of antimatter, which still mystifies us due to its apparent absence in the Universe.”

Gravity is the attractive force between any two objects with mass. It is by far the weakest of the four fundamental forces of nature. Antihydrogen atoms are electrically neutral and stable particles of antimatter. These properties make them ideal systems in which to study the gravitational behaviour of antimatter.

The ALPHA collaboration creates antihydrogen atoms by taking negatively charged antiprotons, produced and slowed down in the Antimatter Factory’s AD and ELENA machines, and binding them with positively charged positrons accumulated from a sodium-22 source. It then confines the neutral – but slightly magnetic – antimatter atoms in a magnetic trap, which prevents them from coming into contact with matter and annihilating.

Until now, the team has concentrated on spectroscopic studies in the ALPHA-2 device, shining laser light or microwaves onto the antihydrogen atoms to measure their internal structure. But the ALPHA team has also built a vertical apparatus called ALPHA-g, which received its first antiprotons in 2018 and was commissioned in 2021. The ‘g’ denotes the local acceleration of gravity, which, for matter, is about 9.81 metres per second squared. This apparatus makes it possible to measure the vertical positions at which the antihydrogen atoms annihilate with matter once the trap’s magnetic field is switched off, allowing the atoms to escape.

This is exactly what the ALPHA researchers did in their new investigation, following a proof-of-principle experiment with the original ALPHA set-up in 2013. They trapped groups of about 100 antihydrogen atoms, one group at a time, and then slowly released the atoms over a period of 20 seconds by gradually ramping down the current in the top and bottom magnets of the trap. Computer simulations of the ALPHA-g set-up indicate that, for matter, this operation would result in about 20% of the atoms exiting through the top of the trap and 80% through the bottom, a difference caused by the downward force of gravity. By averaging the results of seven release trials, the ALPHA team found that the fractions of anti-atoms exiting through the top and bottom were in line with the results of the simulations.

The full study involved repeating the experiment several times for different values of an additional “bias” magnetic field, which could either enhance or counteract the force of gravity. By analysing the data from this “bias scan”, the team found that, within the precision of the current experiment (about 20% of g), the acceleration of an antihydrogen atom is consistent with the familiar, attractive gravitational force between matter and the Earth.

“It has taken us 30 years to learn how to make this anti-atom, to hold on to it, and to control it well enough that we could actually drop it in a way that it would be sensitive to the force of gravity,” says Hangst. “The next step is to measure the acceleration as precisely as we can,” continues Hangst. “We want to test whether matter and antimatter do indeed fall in the same way. Laser-cooling of antihydrogen atoms, which we first demonstrated in ALPHA-2 and will implement in ALPHA-g when we return to it in 2024, is expected to have a significant impact on the precision.”

CERN’s Antimatter Factory is a unique facility in the world for producing and studying antimatter. Two other experiments at this facility, AEgIS and GBAR, share with ALPHA the goal of measuring with high precision the gravitational acceleration of atomic antimatter. Also at the Antimatter Factory is the BASE experiment. Its main focus is to compare with high precision the properties of the proton with those of its antimatter twin, and it has recently compared the gravitational behaviour of these two particles.

Goodo.

“RangerJudy 2h
October 2: after Lady’s good fishing yesterday she brought in another last evening offering and fed them again. Parents were off early again in the morning. Around 7am both nestlings were standing proudly on the rails on opposite sides of the nest. Then a long day waiting, with Lady finally bringing a juvenile gull in just after 4pm. This was quickly grabbed by 31 with 32 waiting a turn too, until taken by Lady to de-feather. She returned to feed them, then more with an eel Dad brought at 16:42. Bird and eel meal, though afterwards Lady fed herself on the nearby branch while they watched. Then she brought the bird back and fed them more. A slow morning but at day’s end they had eaten well.”

They’re almost ready to fledge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muntzing
“Muntzing is the practice and technique of reducing the components inside an electronic appliance to the minimum required for it to sufficiently function in most operating conditions, reducing design margins above minimum requirements toward zero. The term is named after the man who invented it, Earl “Madman” Muntz, a car and electronics salesman, who was not formally educated or trained in any science or engineering discipline.

In the 1940s and 1950s, television receivers were relatively new to the consumer market, and were more complex pieces of equipment than the radios which were then in popular use. TVs often contained upwards of 30 vacuum tubes, as well as transformers, rheostats, and other electronics. The consequence of high cost was high sales pricing, limiting potential for high-volume sales. Muntz expressed suspicion of complexity in circuit designs, and determined through simple trial and error that he could remove a significant number of electronic components from a circuit design and still end up with a monochrome TV that worked sufficiently well in urban areas, close to transmission towers where the broadcast signal was strong. He carried a pair of wire clippers, and when he felt that one of his builders was overengineering a circuit, he would begin snipping out some of the electronics components. When the TV stopped functioning, he would have the technician reinsert the last removed part. He would repeat the snipping in other portions of the circuit until he was satisfied in his simplification efforts, and then leave the TV as it was without further testing in more adverse conditions for signal reception.

As a result, he reduced his costs and increased his profits at the expense of poorer performance at locations more distant from urban centers. He reasoned that population density was higher in and near the urban centers where the TVs would work, and lower further out where the TVs would not work, so the Muntz TVs were adequate for a very large fraction of his customers. And for those further out, where the Muntz TVs did not work, those could be returned at the customer’s additional effort and expense, and not Muntz’s. He focused less resources in the product, intentionally accepting bare minimum performance quality, and focused more resources on advertising and sales promotions”

transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muntzing
“Muntzing is the practice and technique of reducing the components inside an electronic appliance to the minimum required for it to sufficiently function in most operating conditions, reducing design margins above minimum requirements toward zero. The term is named after the man who invented it, Earl “Madman” Muntz, a car and electronics salesman, who was not formally educated or trained in any science or engineering discipline.

In the 1940s and 1950s, television receivers were relatively new to the consumer market, and were more complex pieces of equipment than the radios which were then in popular use. TVs often contained upwards of 30 vacuum tubes, as well as transformers, rheostats, and other electronics. The consequence of high cost was high sales pricing, limiting potential for high-volume sales. Muntz expressed suspicion of complexity in circuit designs, and determined through simple trial and error that he could remove a significant number of electronic components from a circuit design and still end up with a monochrome TV that worked sufficiently well in urban areas, close to transmission towers where the broadcast signal was strong. He carried a pair of wire clippers, and when he felt that one of his builders was overengineering a circuit, he would begin snipping out some of the electronics components. When the TV stopped functioning, he would have the technician reinsert the last removed part. He would repeat the snipping in other portions of the circuit until he was satisfied in his simplification efforts, and then leave the TV as it was without further testing in more adverse conditions for signal reception.

As a result, he reduced his costs and increased his profits at the expense of poorer performance at locations more distant from urban centers. He reasoned that population density was higher in and near the urban centers where the TVs would work, and lower further out where the TVs would not work, so the Muntz TVs were adequate for a very large fraction of his customers. And for those further out, where the Muntz TVs did not work, those could be returned at the customer’s additional effort and expense, and not Muntz’s. He focused less resources in the product, intentionally accepting bare minimum performance quality, and focused more resources on advertising and sales promotions”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madman_Muntz

Nice smell of fresh spring dew this end.

Time for a shower and hair wash.

Bubblecar said:

Nice smell of fresh spring dew this end.

Time for a shower and hair wash.

Why do you wash your hair at night (I’m back on the lappy with now question mark, you will have to imagine it). Because I can, now, I wash my hair mid afternoon so it is properly dry before I go to bed. But then, I have short(ish) hair and no hair dryer. Mine gets a towel down and a comb and that’s it. It’s up to my hair to dry itself after that.

There we are then. Overgrown mane and mortal frame thoroughly cleansed and purified, that I might smell as sweet as the fresh spring dew.

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Nice smell of fresh spring dew this end.

Time for a shower and hair wash.

Why do you wash your hair at night (I’m back on the lappy with now question mark, you will have to imagine it). Because I can, now, I wash my hair mid afternoon so it is properly dry before I go to bed. But then, I have short(ish) hair and no hair dryer. Mine gets a towel down and a comb and that’s it. It’s up to my hair to dry itself after that.

I don’t usually. I’d been meaning to have a shower all day but only just got around to it.

I’ll be going to bed with fairly wet hair but not for a few hours yet.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/02/young-people-its-not-their-job-to-save-the-world-but-they-are-suing-europe-anyway

sarahs mum said:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/02/young-people-its-not-their-job-to-save-the-world-but-they-are-suing-europe-anyway

It’s Bluey and Bingo!

hears thunder monsters, and dry as dry out there, wind’s not terrible but plenty to fan flames and move a fire

mostly sounds like cloud to cloud lightning, dunno

transition said:

hears thunder monsters, and dry as dry out there, wind’s not terrible but plenty to fan flames and move a fire

mostly sounds like cloud to cloud lightning, dunno

I hope we don’t have to worry about fires all the time.

sarahs mum said:

transition said:

hears thunder monsters, and dry as dry out there, wind’s not terrible but plenty to fan flames and move a fire

mostly sounds like cloud to cloud lightning, dunno

I hope we don’t have to worry about fires all the time.

I goes for walk around before goes to bed, has me a look

so, it’s a thing.

sarahs mum said:

so, it’s a thing.

Yeah. Sister says it happens a lot to Mumsnet posters too. Pesky kids.

Words from a “lost” language spoken more than 3,000 years ago have been discovered on an ancient clay tablet unearthed in Turkey.

Archaeologists discovered the tablet earlier this year during excavations at Boğazköy-Hattuşa in north-central Turkey, the site of Hattusha, the Hittite capital from about 1600 B.C. until about 1200 B.C. and now a UNESCO World Heritage site.

Annual expeditions to the site led by Andreas Schachner, an archaeologist at the German Archaeological Institute, have unearthed thousands of clay tablets written in cuneiform — perhaps the most ancient written script, created by the Sumerians in Mesopotamia more than 5,000 years ago.

more..

https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/ritual-text-from-lost-indo-european-language-discovered-on-ancient-clay-tablet-in-turkey

sarahs mum said:

Words from a “lost” language spoken more than 3,000 years ago have been discovered on an ancient clay tablet unearthed in Turkey.

Archaeologists discovered the tablet earlier this year during excavations at Boğazköy-Hattuşa in north-central Turkey, the site of Hattusha, the Hittite capital from about 1600 B.C. until about 1200 B.C. and now a UNESCO World Heritage site.

Annual expeditions to the site led by Andreas Schachner, an archaeologist at the German Archaeological Institute, have unearthed thousands of clay tablets written in cuneiform — perhaps the most ancient written script, created by the Sumerians in Mesopotamia more than 5,000 years ago.

more..

https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/ritual-text-from-lost-indo-european-language-discovered-on-ancient-clay-tablet-in-turkey

good

It’s no wonder that I drag my feet with packing the last few weeks. My dreams are full of me packing and cleaning. So I spend the following day resting. Watching Hoarders.

PS – I’m not at the level of all of these poor souls, but the common themes of thrift shopping, art projects, dysfunctional family, and mental health issues from death of a husband etc. makes me wince.

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 12 degrees at the back door (feels quite warm), just getting light. We are forecast 16 degrees with showers.

It was a dark and windy night. Around midnight I heard a long roll of thunder. Around an hour later it was still going and there was one that shook the house rather impressively. There was an accompaniment of wind (gusting into the 70s) and rain (probably around 3 to 4mm at a guess). I’m not sure what I will do today. We are supposed to have a visit from the plumber to sort out the bore pump and the local handyman to clean out the house and shed gutters. It’s all still and quiet and not raining at the moment. We shall see how things progress and who is able to do their work.

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 12 degrees at the back door (feels quite warm), just getting light. We are forecast 16 degrees with showers.

It was a dark and windy night. Around midnight I heard a long roll of thunder. Around an hour later it was still going and there was one that shook the house rather impressively. There was an accompaniment of wind (gusting into the 70s) and rain (probably around 3 to 4mm at a guess). I’m not sure what I will do today. We are supposed to have a visit from the plumber to sort out the bore pump and the local handyman to clean out the house and shed gutters. It’s all still and quiet and not raining at the moment. We shall see how things progress and who is able to do their work.

I awoke to gusting winds. No rain yet. The wind has quieted.

sarahs mum said:

so, it’s a thing.

Yeah. That sort of stuff has been done by naughty kids for as long as I remember.

transition said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muntzing
“Muntzing is the practice and technique of reducing the components inside an electronic appliance to the minimum required for it to sufficiently function in most operating conditions, reducing design margins above minimum requirements toward zero. The term is named after the man who invented it, Earl “Madman” Muntz, a car and electronics salesman, who was not formally educated or trained in any science or engineering discipline.

In the 1940s and 1950s, television receivers were relatively new to the consumer market, and were more complex pieces of equipment than the radios which were then in popular use. TVs often contained upwards of 30 vacuum tubes, as well as transformers, rheostats, and other electronics. The consequence of high cost was high sales pricing, limiting potential for high-volume sales. Muntz expressed suspicion of complexity in circuit designs, and determined through simple trial and error that he could remove a significant number of electronic components from a circuit design and still end up with a monochrome TV that worked sufficiently well in urban areas, close to transmission towers where the broadcast signal was strong. He carried a pair of wire clippers, and when he felt that one of his builders was overengineering a circuit, he would begin snipping out some of the electronics components. When the TV stopped functioning, he would have the technician reinsert the last removed part. He would repeat the snipping in other portions of the circuit until he was satisfied in his simplification efforts, and then leave the TV as it was without further testing in more adverse conditions for signal reception.

As a result, he reduced his costs and increased his profits at the expense of poorer performance at locations more distant from urban centers. He reasoned that population density was higher in and near the urban centers where the TVs would work, and lower further out where the TVs would not work, so the Muntz TVs were adequate for a very large fraction of his customers. And for those further out, where the Muntz TVs did not work, those could be returned at the customer’s additional effort and expense, and not Muntz’s. He focused less resources in the product, intentionally accepting bare minimum performance quality, and focused more resources on advertising and sales promotions”

crossed my mind there are perhaps an intellectual equivalent, or deintellectual equivalent, ideological equivalent, and further cultural appeals to the biological equivalent, economy of minds, derrr that works, shared derrrs

sarahs mum said:

transition said:

hears thunder monsters, and dry as dry out there, wind’s not terrible but plenty to fan flames and move a fire

mostly sounds like cloud to cloud lightning, dunno

I hope we don’t have to worry about fires all the time.

We worry about fires every Summer. The last two have been lovely, barely a 40 degree day, not much hot North wind. And we’ve had a wet 12 months now – Mr buffy is not the only one who has been getting bogged on the tractor in these parts. Using the amount of firewood used as a guide, we’ve just had a colder Winter than we’ve had for a while. We started using the woodheater in May. That is a bit early. So we are due for swinging back up towards hotter Summers just as part of the way things happen here. There is quite a heavy grass fuel load, so once that dries, we can expect things to be more dangerous than last year. Unless the heat fails again.

buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

transition said:

hears thunder monsters, and dry as dry out there, wind’s not terrible but plenty to fan flames and move a fire

mostly sounds like cloud to cloud lightning, dunno

I hope we don’t have to worry about fires all the time.

We worry about fires every Summer. The last two have been lovely, barely a 40 degree day, not much hot North wind. And we’ve had a wet 12 months now – Mr buffy is not the only one who has been getting bogged on the tractor in these parts. Using the amount of firewood used as a guide, we’ve just had a colder Winter than we’ve had for a while. We started using the woodheater in May. That is a bit early. So we are due for swinging back up towards hotter Summers just as part of the way things happen here. There is quite a heavy grass fuel load, so once that dries, we can expect things to be more dangerous than last year. Unless the heat fails again.

It is wise to be wary.

buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

transition said:

hears thunder monsters, and dry as dry out there, wind’s not terrible but plenty to fan flames and move a fire

mostly sounds like cloud to cloud lightning, dunno

I hope we don’t have to worry about fires all the time.

We worry about fires every Summer. The last two have been lovely, barely a 40 degree day, not much hot North wind. And we’ve had a wet 12 months now – Mr buffy is not the only one who has been getting bogged on the tractor in these parts. Using the amount of firewood used as a guide, we’ve just had a colder Winter than we’ve had for a while. We started using the woodheater in May. That is a bit early. So we are due for swinging back up towards hotter Summers just as part of the way things happen here. There is quite a heavy grass fuel load, so once that dries, we can expect things to be more dangerous than last year. Unless the heat fails again.

I think I have had a milder, drier winter. I’ve used less wood and I have used to electrickery for heating at all. Power bill with concessions is not much at all and thank you fed and state govts for that..

OK, post office is open, and I’ve got an email to say my parcel with my Yes t-shirts is ready to pick up. Back in a tick.

am ‘ere sits on me chair
a seat but what’s a seat?
buttocks of course there
ask I may is some cheek
ya legs other ways bend
say an alien ya do meets
build me a chair, Friend!
‘way ya go contemplates
you designs’n engineer’t
what do’t looks like, Mate

I just read some ‘facts’ about Barbie dolls.

Apparently, the physique of the dolls suggests that, if Barbie was real woman, she would be unable to balance, constantly fall forward, and have to move about on all fours.

As well, because her neck is twice as long as any normal woman’s, she would need someone to support her head while she crawled about.

Added to that, her waistline means that she would be unable to accommodate a full set of internal organs, and would probably suffer constant diarrhea from malabsorption of food.

I haven’t yet seen the Barbie movie, but i suspect that i’ll be needing a few stiff drinks both before and after a viewing.

Hello

Cymek said:

Hello

What do you want.

Peak Warming Man said:

Cymek said:

Hello

What do you want.

Pleasant company

Lololol 🤣 just saw a cat named Hg.

Mercury 😆 🤣

Cymek said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Cymek said:

Hello

What do you want.

Pleasant company

You’ve got that pilgrim.

Cymek said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Cymek said:

Hello

What do you want.

Pleasant company

When do you want it?

Woodie said:

Cymek said:

Peak Warming Man said:

What do you want.

Pleasant company

When do you want it?

Anytime really

captain_spalding said:

I haven’t yet seen the Barbie movie, but i suspect that i’ll be needing a few stiff drinks both before and after a viewing.

It’s pretty funny, I gave it 7/10.

Lunch report: buttered fresh white bread. And some cold Milo. And a malt-o-milk biscuit…no, two of those.

https://youtu.be/9Vw-BqoD-Aw?si=GqoNs7zojlDYNUy9

I was unfamiliar with the percentages agreement.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentages_agreement

could be a big year for snakes we reckons, lady just seen same sort but smaller, just around corner here

kettle on the flame

Latest global temperatures from well known climate change “sceptic” Roy Spencer:

transition said:

could be a big year for snakes we reckons, lady just seen same sort but smaller, just around corner here

kettle on the flame

one dead and one relocated in this neighbourhood when the sun came out the other day.