May as well have a tyhread.

Game 1 tonight.

England v NZ.

NZ won the toss and elected to field.

Eng currently 5/188 after 33.2 overs.

gland and whales 9/252 after 45.4.

Looks like they won’t bat out their 50 overs now. They were on target for over 300 about an hour ago, but then suffered a clatter of wickets.

England & Wales bat out their 50 overs 9/282.

Score on the board, but maybe not as much as they would have liked.

party_pants said:

gland and whales 9/252 after 45.4.

Looks like they won’t bat out their 50 overs now. They were on target for over 300 about an hour ago, but then suffered a clatter of wickets.

283
It’s competive

Kiwis 1/143 after 18 overs.

already half-way there and looking the goods

Anyway, NZ are cruising now, 1/192 after 26 over.s Less than 100 needed now with 24 overs remaining and 9 wickets in hand.

Pak v Ned is not going all Pak’s way.

Pak 5/182 in the 32nd over. Lots of runs on the board for this stage of the game, but a few too many wickets.

… GO NETHERLANDS !!! .. etc

party_pants said:

Pak v Ned is not going all Pak’s way.

Pak 5/182 in the 32nd over. Lots of runs on the board for this stage of the game, but a few too many wickets.

… GO NETHERLANDS !!! .. etc

Wij houden van Oranje!

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

Pak v Ned is not going all Pak’s way.

Pak 5/182 in the 32nd over. Lots of runs on the board for this stage of the game, but a few too many wickets.

… GO NETHERLANDS !!! .. etc

Wij houden van Oranje!

Ja, dat doen we zeker

another wicket 6-fer

two wickets in teo balls

Pak now 8/252 after 43.5. Just when Pak seemed to have weathered the storm and were rebuilding their innings towards a good total.

needless run-out 9-267

sll out 286 after 49.

NED 2/102 after 20.2 overs.

Well on track to chase down the target so far.

3 quick wickets, Ned 5/133 after 26.4 overs.

I think it is out of their reach now.

Sarth Afrika have put on a mammoth 5/428 off their 50 overs. Records tumbling all over the place.

Sri Lanka have no hope of chasing this one down. They might even get penalised a couple of overs because they just couldn’t keep up the required over rate due to the number of times the ball had to be fetched from the stands.

Sri -Lanka 2 down for just 1.

Gunna be a massive thumping.

Scrub that – LBW overturned on the replay – too high.

Sri Lanka are only 1/1

party_pants said:

Scrub that – LBW overturned on the replay – too high.

Sri Lanka are only 1/1

Go Sri Lanka.

Not going well,

Aus are 5/119 after 30 overs.

We need Maxwell and Green to play a long partnership till the 45th over or longer..

,,, we’re fucked :(

Well there goes Maxwell. Leg stump knocked out of the ground and he walks off muttering and looking around like he is hard done by.

.. and there goes Green in the next over, hitting a catch right into the belly of the fielder

How predictable.

Aus all our for 199 in 49.3 overs. India need 200 to win of 50 overs.

Pretty piss-poor effort that, expect India to do it with 20-ish overs in hand.

India 3/2 after 2 overs!

.. but I’ve got to go the bed and sleep now.

Australia in with a real chance.

party_pants said:

India 3/2 after 2 overs!

.. but I’ve got to go the bed and sleep now.

Australia in with a real chance.

Well, that was the high point for us…

Kohli was dropped on 12 by Mitchell Marsh..

Aus 199

India 4/201 off 41.2

It’s possible that we have the wrong bowling attack for India.

party_pants said:

India 3/2 after 2 overs!

.. but I’ve got to go the bed and sleep now.

Australia in with a real chance.

Well that didn’t happen. India did it with more than fifty balls to play with.

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

India 3/2 after 2 overs!

.. but I’ve got to go the bed and sleep now.

Australia in with a real chance.

Well that didn’t happen. India did it with more than fifty balls to play with.

I don’t know if they got bonus points or not, its complicated formula apparently
Well that’s the reason the commentators gave, but maybe they just suck at maths.

AFG 3/146 in the 30th over. v IND

Dashmat and Hazmat are putting on a good partnership here.

AFG made 8/272 off their 50.

A respectable score, but you’d think India probably have this, unless they get off to a really bad start. Call it 80/20 India’s way I reckon.

Yes

Thanks

This is the first WC to be hosted solely by India.

Good start by Zampa.

Saffers on target for a big score here.

Not sure I can stay up and watch this one right ot the end.

Suid-Afrika het 7/311 van hul 50 boulbeurte gemaak

Not sure if this is a good score or not. These Indian stadiums all have their own unique wickets.

Why did Aus come to this World Cup with a busload of slow old age pensioners?

there goes Australia’s chance of winning this WC.

Looks like 0-2 after today.

Rugby Union world cup.
Cricket world cup.

We suck.

Peak Warming Man said:

Rugby Union world cup.
Cricket world cup.

We suck.

We’ll need to find new gods to worship.

Peak Warming Man said:

Rugby Union world cup.
Cricket world cup.

We suck.

How about them Diamonds and Tildas eh???

Afghanistan is putting on a respectable total vs England

dv said:

Afghanistan is putting on a respectable total vs England

Yeah, I am watching it too.

Go ABE!

dv said:

Afghanistan is putting on a respectable total vs England

they did well against Russia and the USA as well.

England and Wales getting bogged down early:. 3/68 after 12.4 overs

Target is 285

Anyway, i’m off to bed. Hoping for a good result, but I can’t stay up to watch all of it.

6 down after 30 overs, 7 rpo required… not looking good for Blighty

AFG win by 69

So I guess something interesting happened between 120/0 and 209 all out.

A washed out match might be good for both teams as that 1 point would mean they are both still in with a shot.

Play is back on, no hours lost

dv said:

So I guess something interesting happened between 120/0 and 209 all out.

Australia suddenly got its bowling and fielding together. The errant bowling pretty much stopped and they held onto catchable catches.

After the second rain delay started, I went to bed, so I can’t comment about Australia’s batting innings, but there were clearly some decent starts there. Warner and then Smith were out LBW in the fourth over, Smith for a duck.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-16/cricket-world-cup-australia-sri-lanka-scorecentre/102938362

The blog above is incomplete, as AUS must have finished with a final ball six.

Michael V said:

dv said:

So I guess something interesting happened between 120/0 and 209 all out.

Australia suddenly got its bowling and fielding together. The errant bowling pretty much stopped and they held onto catchable catches.

After the second rain delay started, I went to bed, so I can’t comment about Australia’s batting innings, but there were clearly some decent starts there. Warner and then Smith were out LBW in the fourth over, Smith for a duck.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-16/cricket-world-cup-australia-sri-lanka-scorecentre/102938362

The blog above is incomplete, as AUS must have finished with a final ball six.

From the little I saw of it were some wild swings in fortunes.

So we’re still in with a shot…

Seems the minnows are bitey.

Netherlands made 243/8 off 43 overs (rain shortened match). South Africa is 6 down for 141 after 30 overs.

Been a while between drinks for Netherlands as this is their first WC since 2011.

This is their first win at the WC since 2007 and their first against a major cricketing side.

dv said:

Been a while between drinks for Netherlands as this is their first WC since 2011.

This is their first win at the WC since 2007 and their first against a major cricketing side.

Nice.

:)

clatter of wickets, and suddenly NZ are 4/110 after 21.4 overs.

they got to 100 with only 1 wicket down. Big shift in the game.

NZ made 6/288 from their 50 overs.

Not sure if that is a good score or not.

But I am likely to be off to bed before even the half time break is over.

NZ dubbed AFG

I rather hope NZ wins the comp. They should’ve won last time.

Tonight’s stadium is a little dull.

But I have to say, over the last week or two I’ve been impressed by many of the Indian stadiums. Most of them seem to be fairly newly built too. Legacy of the IPL I guess.

I am still yet to see what I would consider the ultimate stadium. One where the roof line and the ground level playing area are offset, such that the spectators in the grandstands receive shade but the shadows don’t impinge too much on the field.

party_pants said:

I am still yet to see what I would consider the ultimate stadium. One where the roof line and the ground level playing area are offset, such that the spectators in the grandstands receive shade but the shadows don’t impinge too much on the field.

Probably need drones.

Shakib is out due to a quad injury which is bad news bears for the Bangas. They got off to a flyer today but are now bogged down.

party_pants said:

I am still yet to see what I would consider the ultimate stadium. One where the roof line and the ground level playing area are offset, such that the spectators in the grandstands receive shade but the shadows don’t impinge too much on the field.

___

But for the cricket….
Stunning. Breathtaking. Awesome. The adjectives roll out as one enters the most beautiful ground in India. The Himachal Pradesh Cricket Association Stadium in Dharamsala, with a capacity of 23,000, is as picturesque as the Adelaide Oval and Newlands, if not more. A small and glittering green plate, the ground has a snow-capped background in the form of the Dauladhar hill-range. The mountains add to the serenity of the venue, which lies at an altitude of 1317 metres above sea level. Another impressive feature is its openness and small-sized stands, which allow for winds to sweep across, giving fast bowlers assistance in the air. The venue is the first in India to use winter rye grass scattered around the outfield, which prevents the grass from dying when temperatures fall below 10 degrees.

19 shillings said:

party_pants said:

I am still yet to see what I would consider the ultimate stadium. One where the roof line and the ground level playing area are offset, such that the spectators in the grandstands receive shade but the shadows don’t impinge too much on the field.

___

But for the cricket….
Stunning. Breathtaking. Awesome. The adjectives roll out as one enters the most beautiful ground in India. The Himachal Pradesh Cricket Association Stadium in Dharamsala, with a capacity of 23,000, is as picturesque as the Adelaide Oval and Newlands, if not more. A small and glittering green plate, the ground has a snow-capped background in the form of the Dauladhar hill-range. The mountains add to the serenity of the venue, which lies at an altitude of 1317 metres above sea level. Another impressive feature is its openness and small-sized stands, which allow for winds to sweep across, giving fast bowlers assistance in the air. The venue is the first in India to use winter rye grass scattered around the outfield, which prevents the grass from dying when temperatures fall below 10 degrees.

I had not noticed the mountains in the distance, only the very dismal and drab high-rise apartment buildings near the ground.

Mahmudullah manages to end up back on strike for the last over.

dv said:

Mahmudullah manages to end up back on strike for the last over.

aaaaand he’s out.

This match had Bangladesh’s highest ever WC opening partnership (93)

dv said:

Mahmudullah manages to end up back on strike for the last over.

fat load of good it did him. Dot ball & then bowled.

Well I don’t think 256 will be enough, particularly without their captain.

Bangers 8/256 off their 50 overs.

it is at least a score on the board. India will probaby chase it down with a few overs to spare, but they Bangers are not disgraced.

Well that was quite an over. A wicket and 23 runs.

Cruised home.

NZ and India now have 4 wins from 4 matches.

At this time of year, I’m closer to Mumbai time than Sydney time.

dv said:

At this time of year, I’m closer to Mumbai time than Sydney time.

AUS v PAK … not quite a “must win” for Australia, since some upsets have hurt some of the leading teams, but we’ve still got a hard road if we lose this one

100 for no loss after 12 overs, zippidy zip

dv said:

100 for no loss after 12 overs, zippidy zip

I think it’s going to be bigly.

0/214, and both openers got their 100 in the same over. 31 overs gone.

Great platform to push the scoring along.

1/259 after 33.5 overs.

Marsh out for 121 (108). He looks unhappy.

Maxwell out first ball trying to slog for 6.

2/259

colour me shocked

party_pants said:

1/259 after 33.5 overs.

Marsh out for 121 (108). He looks unhappy.

121 is not too bad is it?

… for an opener.

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

1/259 after 33.5 overs.

Marsh out for 121 (108). He looks unhappy.

121 is not too bad is it?

… for an opener.

His highest score in World Cup matches. I’m quite happy with it, as a fan.

Amazingly, this is the first time an Australian has carried his bat in an ODI since Martyn did so in 2000 … technically this is the first time this millennium.

dv said:

Amazingly, this is the first time an Australian has carried his bat in an ODI since Martyn did so in 2000 … technically this is the first time this millennium.

Should this be in the arguments for pedants thread?

Sorry … ignore that, brain asplosion.

this is where selection gets difficult with aging players. Warner is still capable of a big innings, but he was dropped a couple of times early on.

Warner goes for 163 (124).

Decent knock :)

UIVMM, the top three World Cup scores by an Australian are all by Warner

Pak have done well these last 10-15 overs.

Aus finish all out for 9/367 off 50. Was looking at 400+ at one stage. Bit of a clatter of wickets after the opening stand.

Nevermind, should be enough.

party_pants said:

Pak have done well these last 10-15 overs.

Aus finish all out for 9/367 off 50. Was looking at 400+ at one stage. Bit of a clatter of wickets after the opening stand.

Nevermind, should be enough.

Aus knock up a cricket score.. nice

party_pants said:

Aus finish all out for 9/367 off 50. Was looking at 400+ at one stage. Bit of a clatter of wickets after the opening stand.

Sorry, bad edit… run-out review on the last ball, I was counting it as out to the naked eye when I started typing. Then it got reviewed and given not out, But I did a bad edit because I’ve had FNDC.

10 overs remaining, 5 wickets in the tank, 94 runs needed… it is certainly possible that Pakistan will chase this down

dv said:

Amazingly, this is the first time an Australian has carried his bat in an ODI since Martyn did so in 2000 … technically this is the first time this millennium.

Ummm. Who carried their bat? Did I miss something?

dv said:

UIVMM, the top three World Cup scores by an Australian are all by Warner

UIVMM?

Michael V said:

dv said:

UIVMM, the top three World Cup scores by an Australian are all by Warner

UIVMM?

Unless I’m very much mistaken.

btm said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

UIVMM, the top three World Cup scores by an Australian are all by Warner

UIVMM?

Unless I’m very much mistaken.

Thanks.

:)

Michael V said:

btm said:

Michael V said:

UIVMM?

Unless I’m very much mistaken.

Thanks.

:)

So it should be UIAVMM, makes sense.

Michael V said:

dv said:

UIVMM, the top three World Cup scores by an Australian are all by Warner

UIVMM?

He probably also holds the three lowest scores?

Michael V said:

dv said:

Amazingly, this is the first time an Australian has carried his bat in an ODI since Martyn did so in 2000 … technically this is the first time this millennium.

Ummm. Who carried their bat? Did I miss something?

Umm….Pat Cummings he was not out 6.

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

Amazingly, this is the first time an Australian has carried his bat in an ODI since Martyn did so in 2000 … technically this is the first time this millennium.

Ummm. Who carried their bat? Did I miss something?

Umm….Pat Cummings he was not out 6.

I always thought the term “carried their bat” only applied to openers.

Does this mean that the Australian team has always (since 2000) been all out before the allotted 50 overs?

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Ummm. Who carried their bat? Did I miss something?

Umm….Pat Cummings he was not out 6.

I always thought the term “carried their bat” only applied to openers.

Does this mean that the Australian team has always (since 2000) been all out before the allotted 50 overs?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cricketers_who_have_carried_the_bat_in_international_cricket

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Ummm. Who carried their bat? Did I miss something?

Umm….Pat Cummings he was not out 6.

I always thought the term “carried their bat” only applied to openers.

Does this mean that the Australian team has always (since 2000) been all out before the allotted 50 overs?

No no, I was joking.

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Umm….Pat Cummings he was not out 6.

I always thought the term “carried their bat” only applied to openers.

Does this mean that the Australian team has always (since 2000) been all out before the allotted 50 overs?

No no, I was joking.

Ah.

So I wonder what dv meant, then.

Michael V said:

So I wonder what dv meant, then.

Did Warner bat out the innings?

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

So I wonder what dv meant, then.

Did Warner bat out the innings?

No.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

So I wonder what dv meant, then.

Did Warner bat out the innings?

No.

I have no idea then. :)

Warner did not carry hisbat. He got out. I think DV was mistaken.

dv said:

Sorry … ignore that, brain asplosion.

Here’s the key to it all.

dv said:

dv said:

Sorry … ignore that, brain asplosion.

Here’s the key to it all.

Ah. Ta.

Looks like Sri Lanka will finally get off the mark with a win over Netherlands who are 91/6 after 21 overs

SL appear to be cruising now but still, four wickets down, a couple of quick ones could change the complexion.

Meanwhile another match is on, between England and South Africa. South Africa are putting together a big score.
There’s another England v South Africa match on later tonight…

dv said:

SL appear to be cruising now but still, four wickets down, a couple of quick ones could change the complexion.

Meanwhile another match is on, between England and South Africa. South Africa are putting together a big score.
There’s another England v South Africa match on later tonight…

no ball seven, ouch

dv said:

SL appear to be cruising now but still, four wickets down, a couple of quick ones could change the complexion.

Meanwhile another match is on, between England and South Africa. South Africa are putting together a big score.
There’s another England v South Africa match on later tonight…

SA 7/399 off their 50 overs. Good score. It will take a remarkable batting effort with no getting bogged down in clumps of quick wickets for England & Wales to even get close to this target.

party_pants said:

dv said:

SL appear to be cruising now but still, four wickets down, a couple of quick ones could change the complexion.

Meanwhile another match is on, between England and South Africa. South Africa are putting together a big score.
There’s another England v South Africa match on later tonight…

SA 7/399 off their 50 overs. Good score. It will take a remarkable batting effort with no getting bogged down in clumps of quick wickets for England & Wales to even get close to this target.

143 runs in the last 10 overs lol

Sri Lanka brought up the required in the 49th over.

The 7th wickets partnership for Netherlands, 130 between Engelbrecht and Van Beek, is the highest 7th wicket partnership for any World Cup match and indeed the highest for anything after the 6th wicket.

dv said:

Sri Lanka brought up the required in the 49th over.

The 7th wickets partnership for Netherlands, 130 between Engelbrecht and Van Beek, is the highest 7th wicket partnership for any World Cup match and indeed the highest for anything after the 6th wicket.

Interesting.

Netherlands probably won’t make the finals, but they have been far from disgraced or even easy-beats in this tournament. They really deserve their spot.

Eng 3/24 after 5.1.

Not looking likely at this rate

Jansen on a hat-trick, split overs….

party_pants said:

Eng 3/24 after 5.1.

Not looking likely at this rate

Could be one of the biggest margins of defeat ever

Jansen … 75 runs off 42 balls, and 2 crucial early wickets

4/38

5/67

I think they’re cooked.

6-fer

Do i stay up and watch till the bitter end, or do I sneak off to bed and sleep…?

party_pants said:

6-fer

Do i stay up and watch till the bitter end, or do I sneak off to bed and sleep…?

The biggest margin of victory in ODI is 317.

The biggest margin of victory in WC history is 275.

dv said:

party_pants said:

6-fer

Do i stay up and watch till the bitter end, or do I sneak off to bed and sleep…?

The biggest margin of victory in ODI is 317.

The biggest margin of victory in WC history is 275.

history in the making

7-fa

Eng have beaten the 275 deficit.

8/133 after 19.4 overs, still 267 behind. Likely to be a drubbing, but not a record.

So I might quietly drift off to bed once this glass is empty.

Eng 9/170 all out.

All out because Topley was injured and can’t bat.

Final margin 226. South Africa are pack in hunt with a great NNR, after their shock defeat to NED a few days ago

Five teams with 1 win from 4 matches.

NZ 2/138 after 28 overs.

Good recovery after a poor start.

touches wood

Mitchell gets his hundred, from 100 balls.

NZ 4/221 from 40.4 overs.

NZ made 273 (all out, off the last ball).

Mitchell 130 from 127 balls faced, out on the second last ball of the innings.

Got to t hink that’s probably not enough

India do not seem to be in a hurry.

dv said:

India do not seem to be in a hurry.

Ambled it home.

So India is top of the table now.

Afghanistan have gone for a 4 spinner lineup.

Pakistan elected to bat.

PAK 7/282 from 50 overs.

Should be enough at this ground.

party_pants said:

PAK 7/282 from 50 overs.

Should be enough at this ground.

Aye

AFG appear to be cruising to victory

dv said:

AFG appear to be cruising to victory

Yeah. Seems I was wrong… again. Looked like a difficult pitch when PAK were batting.

wonder what Rauf Haris is like on a wobbleboard

Shakib is back from injury for the match v South Africa.

dv said:

Shakib is back from injury for the match v South Africa.

big 3rd wicket partnership finally broken

Run-a-ball ton for Quinton de Kock.

Whelp that’s a big total.

Bangers about to start their chase. Need 383 off 50 overs.

at the risk of making a fool of myself yet again, I;m saying no chance.

party_pants said:

Bangers about to start their chase. Need 383 off 50 overs.

at the risk of making a fool of myself yet again, I;m saying no chance.

I wouldn’t say no chance but they’re up against it. If they can somehow trek along at 6 an over and keep a few wickets intact, then launch in the last ten overs, they may or may not get lucky.

South Africa’s last three innings at this venue are

438/4
399/7
382/5

Jansen’s on a hattrick

Probably a completely forlorn hope now but net run rate is probably going to determine who goes to the semis so they might as well try to maximise their score.

New Holland vs Old, Australia elects to bat

dv said:

New Holland vs Old, Australia elects to bat

Hehe

Silence for Bedi bye

dv said:

Silence for Bedi bye

Vale Bishan.

Couple of quick wickets but this is still going to be a big score. Warner brings up a ton again.

Maxwell playing a good knock. 54 from 27

Maxwell 60 off 30 balls lol

doing a good job of keeping strike … he has faced 25 off the 28 balls in this partnership

Remember back in the 80s when teams would think that getting 60 off the last 10 overs was attacking? They’d end up 4 wickets down for like 270 and call it a job done.

Maxwell 100 off 40 balls …

101* from 40

Typical Maxwell knock. Sometimes it works, sometime it fails. I guess that is his one big innings for the tournament.

and now van beek is on a hattrick

8/399 from 50. Probably not enough :p

Target a nice round 400.

Maxwell. WOW!

Interestingly, I can’t find this thread in dv’s index, even using the thread title copied from the thread. I dunno why.

Ah, I see why now. It was started after his last update. 5/10/23.

Back to the TV…

Michael V said:

Interestingly, I can’t find this thread in dv’s index, even using the thread title copied from the thread. I dunno why.

Ah typically I only update on the 1st of the month.

18 off the first two overs

At least they are approaching the task with some verve

I’m just glad other people are using this thread. For the first few days after I started it, felt like I was the only one following the tournament :)

dv said:

18 off the first two overs

At least they are approaching the task with some verve

I think they’ve got to bat their own game, pick a reasonable score and try to hit that target, rather than chase the improbably win and throw wickets away and fall in a heap. Say if they target 280-300ish that would be about the best batting performance they have in them. Limits the NRR damage rather than trying to chase 400 and being all out for 150.

party_pants said:

I’m just glad other people are using this thread. For the first few days after I started it, felt like I was the only one following the tournament :)

Oh I am watching.

party_pants said:

dv said:

18 off the first two overs

At least they are approaching the task with some verve

I think they’ve got to bat their own game, pick a reasonable score and try to hit that target, rather than chase the improbably win and throw wickets away and fall in a heap. Say if they target 280-300ish that would be about the best batting performance they have in them. Limits the NRR damage rather than trying to chase 400 and being all out for 150.

Instead, there was total capitulation. I went to bed with NED 5/65 or so. NED only made 90 runs. I should’ve stayed up the extra 7 overs.

England in big trouble v SL

This might be the end of the line for their title defence

dv said:

England in big trouble v SL

This might be the end of the line for their title defence

I hope so. Might be the end of their arrogant “Baz-Ball Revolution” too.

Meanwhile. England all out 156 from 33.2 overs.

I didn’t manage to watch the whole innings, but lots of poor/soft dismissals in what I did see. There are times when you just have to play hard and tough cricket against good opposition, and England didn’t attempt it.

Sri Lanka cruise to victory with sensible cricket.

2/160 after 25.4 overs. Well within the 33.2 overs England took.

Just by playing sensible cricket – lost a couple of early, bu then just built a big partnership by hitting the ball along the ground into the gaps and running the ones and twos. Not trying to hit balls out of the park that were not there to be hit.

Sri Lanka will get a huge boost to their NRR. England’s NRR will be calculated over 50 overs even though they got bowled out in 33.2, Sri Lanka will be calculated over the overs faced. Getting bowled out is very bad for your NRR.

Table after Round 5.

One of the few games so far I have been able to watch the entire second innings :)

Soon time for bed

Pakistan batting, RSA fielding.

dv said:

Pakistan batting, RSA fielding.

Need fewer teams in dark green.

Also fewer teams in medium blue while we’re at it. I suppose it is easy to tell who is bowling and who is batting, but a bit of distinction would be nice.

dv said:

harsh :p

PAK all out for 270 off the last ball.

Not enough I’d say.

Kock has mostly got centuries in this comp so yeah that was an important wicket to get.

Aust v NZ today. Should be good.

dv said:

Aust v NZ today. Should be good.

England have crashed and burnt.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Aust v NZ today. Should be good.

England have crashed and burnt.

Yep.
Still a mathematical but Poms don’t deserve miracles.

dv said:

Aust v NZ today. Should be good.

Yes. Be good or you won’t be allowed to watch it.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Aust v NZ today. Should be good.

England have crashed and burnt.

I’ve loved every minute of it.

Quite an early start time for this one, 1pm WA time.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Aust v NZ today. Should be good.

England have crashed and burnt.

But Bairstow J is taking it so well.

Ian said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Aust v NZ today. Should be good.

England have crashed and burnt.

But Bairstow J is taking it so well.

Australia is off to a flier.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/teammates-rally-around-aussie-cricket-legend-greg-chappell-amid-financial-hardship/news-story/775fbcaab820a56e805e376cc7e93029

Greg Chappell is broke somehow?

dv said:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/teammates-rally-around-aussie-cricket-legend-greg-chappell-amid-financial-hardship/news-story/775fbcaab820a56e805e376cc7e93029

Greg Chappell is broke somehow?

I should set up a GoFundMe page, could use an extra $250,0000 or two.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/cricket/news-2023-greg-chappell-financial-struggles-testimonial/22295958-7f45-42c8-bfa5-0e232591f3d9

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/teammates-rally-around-aussie-cricket-legend-greg-chappell-amid-financial-hardship/news-story/775fbcaab820a56e805e376cc7e93029

Greg Chappell is broke somehow?

I should set up a GoFundMe page, could use an extra $250,0000 or two.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/cricket/news-2023-greg-chappell-financial-struggles-testimonial/22295958-7f45-42c8-bfa5-0e232591f3d9

You’re not an Aussie cricket legend.

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/teammates-rally-around-aussie-cricket-legend-greg-chappell-amid-financial-hardship/news-story/775fbcaab820a56e805e376cc7e93029

Greg Chappell is broke somehow?

I should set up a GoFundMe page, could use an extra $250,0000 or two.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/cricket/news-2023-greg-chappell-financial-struggles-testimonial/22295958-7f45-42c8-bfa5-0e232591f3d9

You’re not an Aussie cricket legend.

I could claim to be.

Aussie cricket legend Bubblecar in emergency GoFundMe bid, as he reveals he’s not living in luxury.

132/nowt after 11 overs

dv said:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/teammates-rally-around-aussie-cricket-legend-greg-chappell-amid-financial-hardship/news-story/775fbcaab820a56e805e376cc7e93029

Greg Chappell is broke somehow?

Unlucky in business, or bad judgement.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/teammates-rally-around-aussie-cricket-legend-greg-chappell-amid-financial-hardship/news-story/775fbcaab820a56e805e376cc7e93029

Greg Chappell is broke somehow?

Unlucky in business, or bad judgement.

Stoopid article doesn’t say. If he invested it all in weathergirl futures we should be entitled to know before donating a quid!

Witty Rejoinder said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/teammates-rally-around-aussie-cricket-legend-greg-chappell-amid-financial-hardship/news-story/775fbcaab820a56e805e376cc7e93029

Greg Chappell is broke somehow?

Unlucky in business, or bad judgement.

Stoopid article doesn’t say. If he invested it all in weathergirl futures we should be entitled to know before donating a quid!

I thought weathergirl futures was were the smart money is.

Wicket

AUS /175. (19.1 overs). Good opening stand.

1/*175

fuckit

This is amazing

All out 388 on the last over.

I’ll take that.

PS – lovely ground this one, with the mountains in the background.

NZ has never made over 300 batting second at the world cup.

NZ are certainly approaching it with the intention to win.

There’s another match on at the same time, Netherlands v Bangladesh but I can’t watch that one.

NZ needing 96 off the last 10 overs but only 5 wicket remaining

and as I type that

Big wicket, Ravindra gone, that’s probably made this difficult for NZ. 6 down.

dv said:

NZ has never made over 300 batting second at the world cup.

until now (cough)

dv said:

dv said:

NZ has never made over 300 batting second at the world cup.

until now (cough)

It is one of those statistics that looks like a coincidence. They have made over 300 batting second in ODIs plenty of times. Just not at an ODI that was also a WC match. Since these WC matches are ODIs it seems just a statistical coincidence rather than an indicator of some inherrent problem.

8 fer now.

5 wides lol

party_pants said:

dv said:

dv said:

NZ has never made over 300 batting second at the world cup.

until now (cough)

It is one of those statistics that looks like a coincidence. They have made over 300 batting second in ODIs plenty of times. Just not at an ODI that was also a WC match. Since these WC matches are ODIs it seems just a statistical coincidence rather than an indicator of some inherrent problem.

Sure

This is the most runs ever made in a WC match

7 required off 2 balls jesus

6 off the last. It is doable

Wow – that was very close. Never thought NZ would get near it. Well done them.

In the other match, Ban v Ned. Bangers are just starting their innings. Chasing 230 they are 1/19 after 4.2 overs.

Bangers making a bit of a hash of it. 3/45 after 11.5. Target is only 230 but they haven’t looked convincing so far.

time for a captain’s knock

4/63 after 16 overs.

rough

If Bdesh lose this one they will probably end bottom of the table. Wasn’t that long ago, 2015, that they beat England and made the knockouts.

5/69 from 16.5

Are you watching the match? I’m not able to.

Shakib has not exactly set the world alight in this cup

dv said:

Are you watching the match? I’m not able to.

Yes. I pay Evil Uncle Rupert a monthly subscription for Kayo Sports live streaming.

wicket .6/70 now.

The Netherlands are cock-a-hoop.

Dearie me

Bdesh may be going home with nothing to show for their travails other than the win over Afghanistan

Just when B’desh were rebuilding they lose a wicket on a tight run-out. Was just starting to think they could still do this

7/108 after 29.4

Madness, there was no need for this run. They need to preserve wickets and keep things ticking over.

More or less need 120 off 120, with 3 wickets in hand.

8/113

.. and the crowd wearing green are leaving the stadium.

9/142

the end is nigh, and so is bedtime.

And that’s it.

142 all out. Netherlands win by plenty.

Off to bed as soon as the tide is out.

Travis Head was motm but I’d kind of like to give it to Latham just for being a sufficiently inspirational captain to get his team to seriously attack that target, let alone nearly achieve it.

India falling in a heap here, 7/183 after 41.2 overs.

Going to struggle to get 250 from here.

India 9/229 after 50.

Not nearly enough you’d think, but England are the masters of a good batting collapse. Probably see the chance of boosting their NRR by trying to chase this down in 25 overs .. and get bowled out in 23.

Eng 2/30 after 5 overs.

not a convincing start

3/33 after 8 overs

4/39
England fucking it up so far …

party_pants said:

4/39
England fucking it up so far …

Baz has run out of balls?

5/52

6/81 (23.1 overs)

Kind of annoying that England took a slot in this comp that could have been used by a proper team like Hong Kong or the UAE

dv said:

Kind of annoying that England took a slot in this comp that could have been used by a proper team like Hong Kong or the UAE

:)

But someone has to come last in a competition…

Wouldn’t fall off my chair if Afghanistan wins this

dv said:

Wouldn’t fall off my chair if Afghanistan wins this

By this I mean this match, not the comp

dv said:

Wouldn’t fall off my chair if Afghanistan wins this

I won’t be getting that drunk while watching this either.

Gurbaz has been AFG’s most prolific runscorer in the tournament so SL will be glad to have dispatched him early

Afghanistan didn’t break a sweat beating SL.

Standings after round 6

dv said:

Standings after round 6

Oh well, we could still come fourth.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

Standings after round 6

Oh well, we could still come fourth.

I think the semi-finalists are prrrretty much decided.
Afghanistan is on fire but I would say they only have a 10% .chance of making the semis. With two thirds of the matches played they can’t really hope to get past NZ or Aust on NRR so they will need to be past them on wins.

Some scenarios:
Australia has a pretty easy run home but if somehow England beats Australia and Afghanistan wins all their remaining matches

NZ has a tougher run home so if Afghanistan wins two of their remaining matches and NZ lose all of their remaining matches. Or NZ wins one and Afghanistan wins all the remaining.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

Standings after round 6

Oh well, we could still come fourth.

I think the semi-finalists are prrrretty much decided.
Afghanistan is on fire but I would say they only have a 10% .chance of making the semis. With two thirds of the matches played they can’t really hope to get past NZ or Aust on NRR so they will need to be past them on wins.

Some scenarios:
Australia has a pretty easy run home but if somehow England beats Australia and Afghanistan wins all their remaining matches

NZ has a tougher run home so if Afghanistan wins two of their remaining matches and NZ lose all of their remaining matches. Or NZ wins one and Afghanistan wins all the remaining.

When is the next match?

Michael V said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Oh well, we could still come fourth.

I think the semi-finalists are prrrretty much decided.
Afghanistan is on fire but I would say they only have a 10% .chance of making the semis. With two thirds of the matches played they can’t really hope to get past NZ or Aust on NRR so they will need to be past them on wins.

Some scenarios:
Australia has a pretty easy run home but if somehow England beats Australia and Afghanistan wins all their remaining matches

NZ has a tougher run home so if Afghanistan wins two of their remaining matches and NZ lose all of their remaining matches. Or NZ wins one and Afghanistan wins all the remaining.

When is the next match?

We have Bangladesh v Pakistan today

dv said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

I think the semi-finalists are prrrretty much decided.
Afghanistan is on fire but I would say they only have a 10% .chance of making the semis. With two thirds of the matches played they can’t really hope to get past NZ or Aust on NRR so they will need to be past them on wins.

Some scenarios:
Australia has a pretty easy run home but if somehow England beats Australia and Afghanistan wins all their remaining matches

NZ has a tougher run home so if Afghanistan wins two of their remaining matches and NZ lose all of their remaining matches. Or NZ wins one and Afghanistan wins all the remaining.

When is the next match?

We have Bangladesh v Pakistan today

Bugger. Not on free to air TV.

Michael V said:

dv said:

Michael V said:

When is the next match?

We have Bangladesh v Pakistan today

Bugger. Not on free to air TV.

It is a dismal spectacle anyway, with both teams wearing green :P

Bangers all out 204 after 45.1

Should be a simple chase for Pakistan.

Shakib’s been one of the major disappointments of the tournament. He’s yet to reach 50.

PAK bring up the 100 in the 18th over. For no wickets lost.

Looking like an easy chase.

I drifted off for a bit, and next thing PAK win by 7 wickets in 32.2 overs.

bit of a thrashing.

NZ could be chasing a huge total here

dv said:

NZ could be chasing a huge total here

they might even get it this time

Saffers 2/238 after 40 overs

They be wanting near 100 off the last 10, get up into the 320- 340 zone.

Good last 10 overs from SA. They put on 119.

SA 4/357 (50 overs)

If any team can chase this down it will be NZ.

party_pants said:

Saffers 2/238 after 40 overs

They be wanting near 100 off the last 10, get up into the 320- 340 zone.

Last November, Maxwell broke a leg when he slipped while pretending to chase a friend at a birthday party.

His latest mishap came during the cup in India when, after playing golf with teammates on Monday, he fell off a cart transporting players to the team bus.

Australia’s coach Andrew McDonald expects Maxwell to miss just one game.

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Saffers 2/238 after 40 overs

They be wanting near 100 off the last 10, get up into the 320- 340 zone.

Last November, Maxwell broke a leg when he slipped while pretending to chase a friend at a birthday party.

His latest mishap came during the cup in India when, after playing golf with teammates on Monday, he fell off a cart transporting players to the team bus.

Australia’s coach Andrew McDonald expects Maxwell to miss just one game.

Big Show No Show

Ian said:

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Saffers 2/238 after 40 overs

They be wanting near 100 off the last 10, get up into the 320- 340 zone.

Last November, Maxwell broke a leg when he slipped while pretending to chase a friend at a birthday party.

His latest mishap came during the cup in India when, after playing golf with teammates on Monday, he fell off a cart transporting players to the team bus.

Australia’s coach Andrew McDonald expects Maxwell to miss just one game.

Big Show No Show

Seems to be the go.

South Africa thrash New Zealand by 190 runs

Maxwell to miss England match after suffering concussion in golf accident
The allrounder fell off the back of a golf cart after a round on Monday and will be sidelined for at least six days

AFG have taken matches off England, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. If, as seems likely, they can beat Netherlands, they’ll at least have a shot at ending higher on the table than NZ and making the semifinals, thanks to NZ’s big loss v South Africa.

And now the big unit (Marsh) has gone!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/mitch-marsh-leaves-cricket-world-cup-for-personal-reasons/103056390

Michael V said:

And now the big unit (Marsh) has gone!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/mitch-marsh-leaves-cricket-world-cup-for-personal-reasons/103056390

Damn

Michael V said:

And now the big unit (Marsh) has gone!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/mitch-marsh-leaves-cricket-world-cup-for-personal-reasons/103056390

That’s another blow.

Bugger

dv said:

Michael V said:

And now the big unit (Marsh) has gone!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/mitch-marsh-leaves-cricket-world-cup-for-personal-reasons/103056390

Damn

He keeps falling over. Maybe he got vertigo at te top.

Sri Lanka 3 for 4

That’s 3 runs, 4 wickets

dv said:

Sri Lanka 3 for 4

That’s 3 runs, 4 wickets

That’s an early collapse.

3 runouts in this innings so far…

dv said:

3 runouts in this innings so far…

Go the Afghans.

It has a relatively short history.
South Africa has every chance of doing the double.

Runouts, stampings and catches, Ikram Alikhil had a role in 6 wickets this innings

Ducking autodidact

Huge win by Afghanistan who now have 4 wins from 7 matches.

dv said:

Huge win by Afghanistan who now have 4 wins from 7 matches.

AFG wins over who?

Michael V said:

dv said:

Huge win by Afghanistan who now have 4 wins from 7 matches.

AFG wins over who?

England, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Netherlands

dv said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

Huge win by Afghanistan who now have 4 wins from 7 matches.

AFG wins over who?

England, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Netherlands

So yesterday was Netherlands, I guess.

Tonight, another free-to-air match. AUS v ENG. Seems only the AUS matches qualify for fta.

Annoyingly, NZ and Pakistan’s eighth match is scheduled before Australia and England’s seventh, thus disproving Newton’s Third Law of Motion.

Also, shouldn’t eighth have two Ts? The elision is a failure of mass-energy conservation.

dv said:

Annoyingly, NZ and Pakistan’s eighth match is scheduled before Australia and England’s seventh, thus disproving Newton’s Third Law of Motion.

Also, shouldn’t eighth have two Ts? The elision is a failure of mass-energy conservation.

You seem to be really getting into this new science thing now.

dv said:

Annoyingly, NZ and Pakistan’s eighth match is scheduled before Australia and England’s seventh, thus disproving Newton’s Third Law of Motion.

Also, shouldn’t eighth have two Ts? The elision is a failure of mass-energy conservation.

:)

NZ made 401 off their 50 overs.

England remove Australia’s openers cheaply

Well the Pakistan side is taking the task seriously.

106 off 69 balls for Zaman

Australia made 286… not much but I would still back them to beat England

There’s been an extended rain delay in Bengaluru, there will probably be reduced overs for Pakistan to reach the target.

Aus knock Poms out

Nicely nicely Adam Zampa

Ian said:

Aus knock Poms out

Nicely nicely Adam Zampa

Adam did well.

roughbarked said:

Ian said:

Aus knock Poms out

Nicely nicely Adam Zampa

Adam did well.

NZ scored 401 and lost, apparently.

Another good solid loss from England. I have to admit I fell asleep and missed the whole thing. Decided to watch it on the bedroom TV, but as always seems to happen, I just fall asleep and miss it. Bedroom TV watching doesn’t work out well for me.

I see NZ scored 401 and still lost on the Duckworth-Lewis. Don’t get me wrong, PAK scored of 1/200 is impressive, but you’d feel NZ were hard done by.

party_pants said:

Another good solid loss from England. I have to admit I fell asleep and missed the whole thing. Decided to watch it on the bedroom TV, but as always seems to happen, I just fall asleep and miss it. Bedroom TV watching doesn’t work out well for me.

I see NZ scored 401 and still lost on the Duckworth-Lewis. Don’t get me wrong, PAK scored of 1/200 is impressive, but you’d feel NZ were hard done by.

Seems fair enough to me. PAK were well on target to win. Rain-interrupted matches need to be decided somehow, and all nations seem to have agreed that the D-L method is the way to go. It’s complicated, and has been adjusted a few times over the years, but it’s the best we’ve got.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duckworth%E2%80%93Lewis%E2%80%93Stern_method

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

Another good solid loss from England. I have to admit I fell asleep and missed the whole thing. Decided to watch it on the bedroom TV, but as always seems to happen, I just fall asleep and miss it. Bedroom TV watching doesn’t work out well for me.

I see NZ scored 401 and still lost on the Duckworth-Lewis. Don’t get me wrong, PAK scored of 1/200 is impressive, but you’d feel NZ were hard done by.

Seems fair enough to me. PAK were well on target to win. Rain-interrupted matches need to be decided somehow, and all nations seem to have agreed that the D-L method is the way to go. It’s complicated, and has been adjusted a few times over the years, but it’s the best we’ve got.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duckworth%E2%80%93Lewis%E2%80%93Stern_method

Yeah, best we’ve got for sure. I didn’t watch any of that game, just saw that NZ made 401 and then assumed Pakistan wouldn’t even get close. Now that I look into it a bit more closely, I see they were chasing a revised target of 342 in 41 overs after the first rain delay. Then a second rain delay washed out the match. Pakistan were well ahead of the chase at that stage. So it seems fair enough after all.

party_pants said:

Another good solid loss from England. I have to admit I fell asleep and missed the whole thing. Decided to watch it on the bedroom TV, but as always seems to happen, I just fall asleep and miss it. Bedroom TV watching doesn’t work out well for me.

I see NZ scored 401 and still lost on the Duckworth-Lewis. Don’t get me wrong, PAK scored of 1/200 is impressive, but you’d feel NZ were hard done by.

I watched some slept some woke up and watched the rest.

party_pants said:

Another good solid loss from England. I have to admit I fell asleep and missed the whole thing. Decided to watch it on the bedroom TV, but as always seems to happen, I just fall asleep and miss it. Bedroom TV watching doesn’t work out well for me.

I see NZ scored 401 and still lost on the Duckworth-Lewis. Don’t get me wrong, PAK scored of 1/200 is impressive, but you’d feel NZ were hard done by.

I think it is a fair one. Normally as a rule of thumb, if you are half way to the total after 30 overs with at least 7 wickets in hand, you’re on track. Pakistan were halfway there after 25 overs, 9 on hand, Zaman on absolute fire… I think they were looking alright.

Still it’s a shame we were robbed of seeing that chase.

It does make things interesting on the table.

Afghanistan, NZ and Pakistan all on 4 wins but Afghanistan have a game to come. One more cheeky win by them and they’ll be in fourth slot.

NZ won their first four matches and lost their next four.

We all wrote off the Poms long ago but they are now longer a mathematical chance.

South Africa and India are both definitely going to make the semis. Australia has a pretty easy run from here so they are like 99% certain.

Top of the table clash today between RSA and India

dv said:

Top of the table clash today between RSA and India

:)

And it’s on free-to-air, too.

Anything over 300 will be a good score on this pitch.

Ind 4/354 after 43.1 overs. They might get there

party_pants said:

Anything over 300 will be a good score on this pitch.

Ind 4/354 after 43.1 overs. They might get there

4/254

RSA 7/70. Not going to get there.

Starting to thing it would be an injustice if India doesn’t win the cup

Major controversy over the “spirit of the game” in SL v BAN

Angleo Mathews given out “Timed Out” for no score. Walked out to bat, took gaurd, went to put his helmet on and realised the strap was broken. Signalled to the dressing room for a man to run out with a new helmet.

Bangers were behind the over rate at the time, appealed, and he was given out being not ready to face the next ball within 2 minutes.

Totally within the rules, but a bit harsh.

For once a controversy not involving Australia….

Bangladesh bring up the required in 41 overs.

Good to see Shakib finally do something. He’s had a terrible tournament. I think back to the 2019 WC where he made 606 runs and took 11 wickets.

They are going to build a bogus hill at Optus stadium

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-06/west-test-hill-strikes-balance-of-stadiums-vs-cricket-ground/103068338

Aus v Afg today which normally you’d think would be one sided but the latter have had a good tournament

dv said:

Aus v Afg today which normally you’d think would be one sided but the latter have had a good tournament

Could be a good match.

dv said:

Aus v Afg today which normally you’d think would be one sided but the latter have had a good tournament

Thanks for the heads up.

dv said:

They are going to build a bogus hill at Optus stadium

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-06/west-test-hill-strikes-balance-of-stadiums-vs-cricket-ground/103068338

They really should try to include some bogus drunken punchups, arrests, and the late afternoon sparkle of flying tinnies.. like the old Sydney hill

Ian said:

dv said:

They are going to build a bogus hill at Optus stadium

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-06/west-test-hill-strikes-balance-of-stadiums-vs-cricket-ground/103068338

They really should try to include some bogus drunken punchups, arrests, and the late afternoon sparkle of flying tinnies.. like the old Sydney hill

SECURITY CAUSES THAT, TOO MUCH SECURITY, AT THE CRICKET.

Entire Sri Lanka Cricket Board sacked following humiliating World Cup loss to India

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/entire-sri-lanka-cricket-board-sacked-following-humiliating-world-cup-loss-to-india-101699250423100.html

Kind of seems like an overreaction

dv said:

Entire Sri Lanka Cricket Board sacked following humiliating World Cup loss to India

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/entire-sri-lanka-cricket-board-sacked-following-humiliating-world-cup-loss-to-india-101699250423100.html

Kind of seems like an overreaction

Demos, riot police, madness.

dv said:

Entire Sri Lanka Cricket Board sacked following humiliating World Cup loss to India

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/entire-sri-lanka-cricket-board-sacked-following-humiliating-world-cup-loss-to-india-101699250423100.html

Kind of seems like an overreaction

I’ll say.

Afghanistan is going okay and will post a decent score but I expect Australia to get there.

dv said:

Afghanistan is going okay and will post a decent score but I expect Australia to get there.

Not so sure. AFG have one quick and 3 very decent spinners in their attack. Looms like a difficult pitch to bat on. The spin-dominant attack might be a challenge.

AFG 5/291 from 50. Very impressive last half dozen overs, got 75 off the last 6.

This is going to be a tough target to chase, against a good spin attack. Even money I reckon, if not slightly in favour of AFG.

And yeah this time Zadran really did carry his bat.

Omarzai on a hattrick, Australia 49 for 4…

dv said:

Omarzai on a hattrick, Australia 49 for 4…

I think we’re cooked. Relying on Maxwell to play a long innings as the last recognised … etc

Australia 101-7, it’s carnage

One of the most one sided partnerships you’ll see: of the 80 runs, Cummins has made 8.

Stunning comeback. This is by far Maxwell’s highest ODI score, and much needed

Big Show can do this on one leg.

Astounding…
Double ton for GM.

Maxwell 200!

That’ll do :)

Well, I wasn’t expecting that.

I toddled off, too tired to watch, when Australia were 5 for bugger all and it was, well, Afghanistan’s game to lose. Turns out it was Glen Maxwell’s game to win!

Well done Glen!

dv said:

And yeah this time Zadran really did carry his bat.

Yep.

:)

An astounding effort.
Maxwell deserves a good rest up after that effort.

Tendulkar: “From Max pressure to Max performance! This has been the best ODI knock I’ve seen in my life.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-08/cricket-odi-world-cup-glenn-maxwell-double-century/103076936

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-07/cricket-world-cup-australia-afghanistan-scorecentre/102938682

Michael V said:

Tendulkar: “From Max pressure to Max performance! This has been the best ODI knock I’ve seen in my life.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-08/cricket-odi-world-cup-glenn-maxwell-double-century/103076936

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-07/cricket-world-cup-australia-afghanistan-scorecentre/102938682

Yes. I was actually watching it.

Michael V said:

Tendulkar: “From Max pressure to Max performance! This has been the best ODI knock I’ve seen in my life.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-08/cricket-odi-world-cup-glenn-maxwell-double-century/103076936

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-07/cricket-world-cup-australia-afghanistan-scorecentre/102938682

“He’s a freak.”

Yep

(And he rode his luck)

Amazing

:-)

Michael V said:

Tendulkar: “From Max pressure to Max performance! This has been the best ODI knock I’ve seen in my life.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-08/cricket-odi-world-cup-glenn-maxwell-double-century/103076936

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-07/cricket-world-cup-australia-afghanistan-scorecentre/102938682

They dropped him a couple of times. Must be gutting for the Afg team.

party_pants said:

dv said:

Omarzai on a hattrick, Australia 49 for 4…

I think we’re cooked. Relying on Maxwell to play a long innings as the last recognised … etc

Daffuq would I know. Went to bed and missed the big show

party_pants said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

Omarzai on a hattrick, Australia 49 for 4…

I think we’re cooked. Relying on Maxwell to play a long innings as the last recognised … etc

Daffuq would I know. Went to bed and missed the big show

It’s just about the most amazing recovery I’ve ever seen. If the catches had been taken this would have been a crushing defeat

England struggling a bit here against Netherlands.

5/186 after 33 overs. A reasonable total but the wickets in hand is not great for a big push in the last 10 overs.

Peak Warming Man said:

England and the Netherlands playing tonight, two minnows, should be close.

lol

This close loss does actually improve Afghanistan’s NRR a tiny bit. They are still a chance to qualify for the semis.

Today’s match is a North Sea derby at the bottom of the table, NED – ENG. Surprising as it seems, Netherlands could still make the semifinals as well. They’d need to win this match and their final match, and they’d need NZ, Pakistan and Afghanistan to all lose their final matches, and they’d need to make up a ridic motzah in NRR but they are technically a mathematical chance.

The gambling markets have the NED win over ENG at 7.00. That seems quite high for me, might even throw a lobster at it.

—-

After that, all teams will have played 8 matches. The final five matches are:

NZ v SL *
AFG v RSA *
AUS v BAN
ENG v PAK *
IND v NED

The three “live” rubbers are asterisked. In each case, the match really matters to only one team. NZ versus an eliminated SL, Pakistan versus a demoralised England, Afghanistan against a South Africa that’s already through and may take it easy or even rest key players.

NZ, Pakistan and Afghanistan are all on 4 wins, with NRR of 0.401, 0.052, -0.338. Eight games in, it’s hard to make much of a dint on NRR. For instance, for Afghanistan to catch NZ, they would need to win their match, they’d need NZ to lose their match, and they’d need there to be about a 250 net run difference or something: like if they won by 125 and NZ lost by 125 or something like that: big results. Not impossible but not likely.

339/9 and I think that’s going to be more than Netherlands can handle.

England have recovered a bit since… Big partnership from Stokes and Woakes.

9/339 after 50 overs,

Should be plenty enough

Netherlands 3/70 after 18 overs.

Not going to get even close. Which is a shame because it will lift England off the bottom of the table. But them’s the breaks. Netherlands pulled off some very good performances, including a win over South Africa; but will still finish bottom of the table.

Gamblor odds from sportsbet to make the semifinals

NZ 1.27
Pak 3.75
Afg 21.00

Feels about right.

dv said:

This close loss does actually improve Afghanistan’s NRR a tiny bit. They are still a chance to qualify for the semis.

Today’s match is a North Sea derby at the bottom of the table, NED – ENG. Surprising as it seems, Netherlands could still make the semifinals as well. They’d need to win this match and their final match, and they’d need NZ, Pakistan and Afghanistan to all lose their final matches, and they’d need to make up a ridic motzah in NRR but they are technically a mathematical chance.

The gambling markets have the NED win over ENG at 7.00. That seems quite high for me, might even throw a lobster at it.

—-

After that, all teams will have played 8 matches. The final five matches are:

NZ v SL *
AFG v RSA *
AUS v BAN
ENG v PAK *
IND v NED

The three “live” rubbers are asterisked. In each case, the match really matters to only one team. NZ versus an eliminated SL, Pakistan versus a demoralised England, Afghanistan against a South Africa that’s already through and may take it easy or even rest key players.

NZ, Pakistan and Afghanistan are all on 4 wins, with NRR of 0.401, 0.052, -0.338. Eight games in, it’s hard to make much of a dint on NRR. For instance, for Afghanistan to catch NZ, they would need to win their match, they’d need NZ to lose their match, and they’d need there to be about a 250 net run difference or something: like if they won by 125 and NZ lost by 125 or something like that: big results. Not impossible but not likely.

So I’ve described the NZ-SL and IND-NED as matches that don’t really matter but I’m sure NZ would prefer not to meet India in the semifinal so I dare say they’ll still be putting maximum effort in. SL playing for pride.

dv said:

dv said:

This close loss does actually improve Afghanistan’s NRR a tiny bit. They are still a chance to qualify for the semis.

Today’s match is a North Sea derby at the bottom of the table, NED – ENG. Surprising as it seems, Netherlands could still make the semifinals as well. They’d need to win this match and their final match, and they’d need NZ, Pakistan and Afghanistan to all lose their final matches, and they’d need to make up a ridic motzah in NRR but they are technically a mathematical chance.

The gambling markets have the NED win over ENG at 7.00. That seems quite high for me, might even throw a lobster at it.

—-

After that, all teams will have played 8 matches. The final five matches are:

NZ v SL *
AFG v RSA *
AUS v BAN
ENG v PAK *
IND v NED

The three “live” rubbers are asterisked. In each case, the match really matters to only one team. NZ versus an eliminated SL, Pakistan versus a demoralised England, Afghanistan against a South Africa that’s already through and may take it easy or even rest key players.

NZ, Pakistan and Afghanistan are all on 4 wins, with NRR of 0.401, 0.052, -0.338. Eight games in, it’s hard to make much of a dint on NRR. For instance, for Afghanistan to catch NZ, they would need to win their match, they’d need NZ to lose their match, and they’d need there to be about a 250 net run difference or something: like if they won by 125 and NZ lost by 125 or something like that: big results. Not impossible but not likely.

So I’ve described the NZ-SL and IND-NED as matches that don’t really matter but I’m sure NZ would prefer not to meet India in the semifinal so I dare say they’ll still be putting maximum effort in. SL playing for pride.

No I didn’t, maybe I’m on those monk drugs, this is a must win for NZ.

The don’t matter games are AUS v BAN and IND-NED.

Ignore me.

dv said:

Ignore me.

No, I refuse to.

SL 7/105 after 18.3 overs.

This game might be over early, so I get a good night sleep.

8/113

171 a.o., not nearly enough but probably better than they hoped for at 113/8

dv said:

171 a.o., not nearly enough but probably better than they hoped for at 113/8

Rather selfishly I was hoping they’d be all out in about 30 overs so NZ could chase it down in about 20. I’ve got a 6.30am start tomorrow so I have to get an early night.

party_pants said:

dv said:

171 a.o., not nearly enough but probably better than they hoped for at 113/8

Rather selfishly I was hoping they’d be all out in about 30 overs so NZ could chase it down in about 20. I’ve got a 6.30am start tomorrow so I have to get an early night.

I mean by the looks they’ll probably do it in about 28 overs or something so it might not cost you too much time.

Well…
That was a drubbing.
Not a great finish to SL’s world cup but they have had a pretty torrid time anyway.

The boost to NZ’s net run rate is such that we pretty much pencil in the India v NZ semifinal. Australia will meet South Africa in the semifinal no matter what happens from here.

Following NZ’s crushing win yesterday, Afghanistan basically need to win by 400 or something today in order to make the semis, so to my mind they should just accept they are out and instead focus on having a good last game.

It’s not going great for Afghanistan, 116/6.

Shakib has flown home due to a broken finger and will not take part in Bangladesh’s final match v Australia

Team wearing blue made 244 all out form 49.5 overs.\

So the team wearing green need 245

Poor Azmat stranded on 97* , looking for a boundary to get his hundred and the tail-ender at the non-strikers end gets himself needlessly run out.

party_pants said:

Team wearing blue made 244 all out form 49.5 overs.\

So the team wearing green need 245

Poor Azmat stranded on 97* , looking for a boundary to get his hundred and the tail-ender at the non-strikers end gets himself needlessly run out.

Still, he led quite a recovery from 116/6.

This was his highest ODi score. He played a big role in their win over SL.

Almost certainly not enough but let’s see

AFG making a good fist of it here, they have Saffers at 5/182 after 37.1 overs.

Anyone’s game at this stage….

little bit of lusty hitting in the late overs and SA by 5 wickets with 15 balls to spare.

and the required is brought up in the 48th over.

Some ups and downs for Afghanistan, could have made the semis if a couple of moments had gone differently for them but they’ll probably end in 6th place which isn’t too bad.

Bang v Aus.
Bit of a dead rubber today and Shakib’s out due to a broken finger.

dv said:

Bang v Aus.
Bit of a dead rubber today and Shakib’s out due to a broken finger.

Starts early, too. First ball at 3 pm AEST, with Talking heads from 2:30 pm AEST.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-11/cricet-icc-supends-sri-lanka-membership/103093796

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-11/cricet-icc-supends-sri-lanka-membership/103093796

Shit eh

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-11/cricet-icc-supends-sri-lanka-membership/103093796

I never imagine Sri Lanka as being such a cricket crazy country as that.

Also, I am not sure what sacking the Board will do to improve matters. Their score against India is still there in the record books, there is no changing it.

party_pants said:

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-11/cricet-icc-supends-sri-lanka-membership/103093796

I never imagine Sri Lanka as being such a cricket crazy country as that.

Also, I am not sure what sacking the Board will do to improve matters. Their score against India is still there in the record books, there is no changing it.

Cricket is played everywhere there is a small amount of vacant land, even on quiet streets. If there is a beach, they’ll be some group playing cricket in between the fishing boats. Sri Lankans are at least as cricket-mad as Indians.

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-11/cricet-icc-supends-sri-lanka-membership/103093796

I never imagine Sri Lanka as being such a cricket crazy country as that.

Also, I am not sure what sacking the Board will do to improve matters. Their score against India is still there in the record books, there is no changing it.

Cricket is played everywhere there is a small amount of vacant land, even on quiet streets. If there is a beach, they’ll be some group playing cricket in between the fishing boats. Sri Lankans are at least as cricket-mad as Indians.

I have never been there

(technically I have, we had a refueling stop in Columbo but never got off the plane. there was certainly nobody playing cricket on the tarmac)

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-11/cricet-icc-supends-sri-lanka-membership/103093796

I never imagine Sri Lanka as being such a cricket crazy country as that.

Also, I am not sure what sacking the Board will do to improve matters. Their score against India is still there in the record books, there is no changing it.

Cricket is played everywhere there is a small amount of vacant land, even on quiet streets. If there is a beach, they’ll be some group playing cricket in between the fishing boats. Sri Lankans are at least as cricket-mad as Indians.

““In particular, the requirement to manage its affairs autonomously and ensure that there is no government interference in the governance, regulation and/or administration of cricket in Sri Lanka.”

If a government decides to interfere, how are they supposed to stop them?

party_pants said:

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-11/cricet-icc-supends-sri-lanka-membership/103093796

I never imagine Sri Lanka as being such a cricket crazy country as that.

Also, I am not sure what sacking the Board will do to improve matters. Their score against India is still there in the record books, there is no changing it.

Really? I always think of them as basically cricket only. It’s not as though they are a world champion basketball or swimming nation.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

I never imagine Sri Lanka as being such a cricket crazy country as that.

Also, I am not sure what sacking the Board will do to improve matters. Their score against India is still there in the record books, there is no changing it.

Cricket is played everywhere there is a small amount of vacant land, even on quiet streets. If there is a beach, they’ll be some group playing cricket in between the fishing boats. Sri Lankans are at least as cricket-mad as Indians.

““In particular, the requirement to manage its affairs autonomously and ensure that there is no government interference in the governance, regulation and/or administration of cricket in Sri Lanka.”

If a government decides to interfere, how are they supposed to stop them?

By doing what they are doing: suspending them from the ICC. The govt will pretty soon feel pressure when there’s no international cricket.

dv said:

party_pants said:

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-11/cricet-icc-supends-sri-lanka-membership/103093796

I never imagine Sri Lanka as being such a cricket crazy country as that.

Also, I am not sure what sacking the Board will do to improve matters. Their score against India is still there in the record books, there is no changing it.

Really? I always think of them as basically cricket only. It’s not as though they are a world champion basketball or swimming nation.

I knew that liked cricket, but I never thought of them as such fanatics like the Indians.

party_pants said:

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

I never imagine Sri Lanka as being such a cricket crazy country as that.

Also, I am not sure what sacking the Board will do to improve matters. Their score against India is still there in the record books, there is no changing it.

Cricket is played everywhere there is a small amount of vacant land, even on quiet streets. If there is a beach, they’ll be some group playing cricket in between the fishing boats. Sri Lankans are at least as cricket-mad as Indians.

I have never been there

(technically I have, we had a refueling stop in Columbo but never got off the plane. there was certainly nobody playing cricket on the tarmac)

Did you look behind the plane for the ones that were there when the plane landed on them?

AUS won the toss and elected to bowl.

Michael V said:

AUS won the toss and elected to bowl.

Good. I’ll turn the tele on and grab a beer.

Michael V said:

AUS won the toss and elected to bowl.

what a bunch of toss winning bowl choosers.

party_pants said:

Michael V said:

AUS won the toss and elected to bowl.

what a bunch of toss winning bowl choosers.

tossers.
I hope the bowl is to their credit.

dv said:

Bang v Aus.
Bit of a dead rubber today and Shakib’s out due to a broken finger.

Maxwell is also being rested, slack bastard

dv said:

dv said:

Bang v Aus.
Bit of a dead rubber today and Shakib’s out due to a broken finger.

Maxwell is also being rested, slack bastard

It’s no dead runner with Bang at nought for 60.

Xavier Tras is going great, 14 off 16 overs

Like a Towhid Hridoy

Riding out on a horse in a star-spangled rodeo

Bdesh 180/3 off 30 overs, great launching pad

dv said:

Bdesh 180/3 off 30 overs, great launching pad

Not such a dead rubber after all.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

Bdesh 180/3 off 30 overs, great launching pad

Not such a dead rubber after all.

Good practice for the Aussies though.

Few soft catches and needless runouts mean that the total is a bit disappointing, 306/8. Still it’s a defensible total, should be a decent match.

Plenty of chatter behind the stumps by Mohammad Mushfiqur Rahim, good to see

Head gone early, 12/1.

There’s another match on over at Eden Gardens, ENG v PAK. Pakistan still have a mathematical chance of qualifying for the semis if they have a huge win but England is off to a flyer so it might be a forlorn hope for them.

Stupid bloody Vera.

Why don’t she just turn the bloody lights on.

Mitch Marsh is doing OK today.

Marsh sends one to the moon.

dv said:

Marsh sends one to the moon.

great plan from Smith to just give Marsh the strike

party_pants said:

dv said:

Marsh sends one to the moon.

great plan from Smith to just give Marsh the strike

scrub that.. he;s 99 not, and Smith gets a single last ball of the over.

party_pants said:

Mitch Marsh is doing OK today.

Has it been Cricket Australia policy this last quarter century that Australia field a player called Mitch?

nervous nineties eh

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Mitch Marsh is doing OK today.

Has it been Cricket Australia policy this last quarter century that Australia field a player called Mitch?

I think it has been a coincidence. The name Mitchell or Mitch just happened to have a burst of popularity for a certain generation of babies.

This is only his 3rd ODI ton

M Marsh 100*

I should and applaud, but there is no camera on my TV.

Been a few called Marsh too

dv said:

This is only his 3rd ODI ton

Bit surprised by that. Thought it would be much higher.

party_pants said:

dv said:

This is only his 3rd ODI ton

Bit surprised by that. Thought it would be much higher.

Indeed before this WC his previous one was 8 years ago

This is Marsh’s highest ODI score

dv said:

This is Marsh’s highest ODI score

Plenty of runs left to get. He seems to be cramping up a bit though, not sure if he has got much left in the tank.

Surprisingly, if Australia get this, it will be their highest successful chase at a WC

looks like run-out at the non strikers end

review says not out. I thought the opposite.

and 50 for Smith the Worthy.

In the other match, Mohammad Wasim is on a hattrick with one more ball to come in the innings

Pakistan will be chasing 338 and they’ll need some luck.

aaaand that’s it, Aust wins … good to see Schmidty in form.

That’s it, Aus win by 8 wickets with 5 overs in hand.

Marsh 177* is the 6th best score ever by an Aussie in all ODIs.

The list is

G Maxwell 201*
S Watson 185*
M Hayden 181*
D Warner 179
D Warner 178
M Marsh 177*

might be some polite ribbing in the change rooms with Smith not giving enough strike to Marsh on the last few balls to overtake Warner’s best scores.

Abdullah Shafique out 2nd ball yikes

PAK 2/10 early overs. Not looking great.

Sure would sting to see England get two wins in a row.

dv said:

Sure would sting to see England get two wins in a row.

Yes, I might to just stop watching and go to bed.

party_pants said:

dv said:

Sure would sting to see England get two wins in a row.

Yes, I might to just stop watching and go to bed.

Not going to bed yet but I won’t be watching.

Pakistan can now not even theoretically make the semis and so NZ will face India on Wednesday.

This is the 9th time NZ has qualified for the semis, more times than any other side.

3 down… wheels coming off

what an extraordinary dismissal.

Batter charges the spinner and has a big wild swing. Midway through he gets a cramp in the leg. Misses the ball and gets bowled, collapses in a heap on the pitch and needs help from the trainers to hobble off.

Pakistan need a Maxwell-like innings here.

4/111 from 25.4 overs. Halway through their overs and the required rate is over 9.

Aghast brings up his 50 in 42 balls.
This is his first innings of the tournament.

Rauf Haris, who took three wickets, is now required to add some razzle dazzle with the bat. This is his highest score in ODIs.

And that’s all she wrote, England wins by 93 runs.

Well India is looking like making 360 easy.

I’m not sure why this mismatch was saved to be the last match of the round robin phase… maybe it’s random?

Wesley Barresi is 39 and I assume this will be his last world cup and last world cup match.

India might be getting 400 here…

This is Shreya’s highest score in ODIs

India 4/410 from 50 overs completed.

Early night, I won’t even bother.

It will be India v NZ on Wednesday night.

Bas de Leede takes a last over consolation prize wicket.

Had a reasonable tournament,

dv said:

Bas de Leede takes a last over consolation prize wicket.

Had a reasonable tournament,

yeah, even though they finish dead last, in some ways Netherlands had a good tournament. They did pull off a couple of good wins, one of them against a semi-finalist in South Africa.

party_pants said:

dv said:

Bas de Leede takes a last over consolation prize wicket.

Had a reasonable tournament,

yeah, even though they finish dead last, in some ways Netherlands had a good tournament. They did pull off a couple of good wins, one of them against a semi-finalist in South Africa.

I’m sure they’ll remember that day for a while.

dv said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

Bas de Leede takes a last over consolation prize wicket.

Had a reasonable tournament,

yeah, even though they finish dead last, in some ways Netherlands had a good tournament. They did pull off a couple of good wins, one of them against a semi-finalist in South Africa.

I’m sure they’ll remember that day for a while.

Indeed.

Netherlands all out for 250. And that’s it for the round robin portion.

What I’ve liked about this WC is that, although some teams have been better than others and India’s been unbeatable, there are no real minnows. All teams came away with at least two wins including beating an established side. Netherlands beat RSA and Bangladesh comfortably, gave Sri Lanka a good scare. Afghanistan had four wins, and really came within one catch of beating Australia.
This is the first WC in which each team has won at least two matches and it feels like they got the format right.

Major disappointment has been Shakib: at the last WC he took 11 wickets and made 600 runs. Seems likely this was his last cup.

dv said:

What I’ve liked about this WC is that, although some teams have been better than others and India’s been unbeatable, there are no real minnows. All teams came away with at least two wins including beating an established side. Netherlands beat RSA and Bangladesh comfortably, gave Sri Lanka a good scare. Afghanistan had four wins, and really came within one catch of beating Australia.
This is the first WC in which each team has won at least two matches and it feels like they got the format right.

Major disappointment has been Shakib: at the last WC he took 11 wickets and made 600 runs. Seems likely this was his last cup.

Shahib has let his nation down, let his fans down and above all let his family and friends down.
He should be ashamed of himself.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

What I’ve liked about this WC is that, although some teams have been better than others and India’s been unbeatable, there are no real minnows. All teams came away with at least two wins including beating an established side. Netherlands beat RSA and Bangladesh comfortably, gave Sri Lanka a good scare. Afghanistan had four wins, and really came within one catch of beating Australia.
This is the first WC in which each team has won at least two matches and it feels like they got the format right.

Major disappointment has been Shakib: at the last WC he took 11 wickets and made 600 runs. Seems likely this was his last cup.

Shahib has let his nation down, let his fans down and above all let his family and friends down.
He should be ashamed of himself.

I’m sorry I got this tattoo now

This is the fifth time South Africa has been to the semifinal of a Cricket World Cup.

Of the previous four times they won (checks notes) zero semifinals.

I’ve put money on South Africa in the semi which more or less guarantees the Aust win. You’re welcome.

Let’s hope this potentially disruptive storm and its associated rain stays far away from Thursday’s match.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-15/bay-of-bengal-storm-australia-cricket-world-cup/103104880

Looks like another ~400 score out of India

dv said:

Looks like another ~400 score out of India

there are some mutterings about the pitch being changed at the last moment to spin friendly one, to negate NZ’s medium pace attack.

4/397

not far off 400

I have the next week or so off, not back to work till mid next week. So I get to stay up for the first 20 overs or so and then go to bed when NZ fall too far behind.

party_pants said:

dv said:

Looks like another ~400 score out of India

there are some mutterings about the pitch being changed at the last moment to spin friendly one, to negate NZ’s medium pace attack.

I’m sure the grounds staff at Ahmedabad are working on doctoring the perfect India friendly pitch right now for the final

party_pants said:

dv said:

Looks like another ~400 score out of India

there are some mutterings about the pitch being changed at the last moment to spin friendly one, to negate NZ’s medium pace attack.

The ICC was supposed to be consulted if this were to happen. They weren’t (allegedly). I wonder if there is a penalty.

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

Looks like another ~400 score out of India

there are some mutterings about the pitch being changed at the last moment to spin friendly one, to negate NZ’s medium pace attack.

The ICC was supposed to be consulted if this were to happen. They weren’t (allegedly). I wonder if there is a penalty.

Pitches tailored to (Indian) order.