Date: 26/10/2023 16:16:25
From: PermeateFree
ID: 2088339
Subject: Collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is 'unavoidable,' study finds

Here is an important tipping point we have entered with long term consequences.

>>British Antarctic Survey researchers have found that the rate at which ice is melting and contributing to sea level rise will accelerate in the next century, regardless of actions to limit greenhouse gas emissions.


Icicles hang from a melting iceberg on Petermann Island in Antarctica.

The rate at which the West Antarctic ice sheet is melting will accelerate over the coming decades and is now an “unavoidable” consequence of climate change, a new study finds.

Even if countries manage to cap greenhouse gas emissions and limit global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius (2.7 degrees Fahrenheit) above preindustrial levels — the target adopted by world leaders in the landmark 2015 Paris Agreement — melting will increase three times faster over the rest of the 21st century than it did during the 20th century.

“It looks like we’ve lost control of melting of the West Antarctic ice sheet,” study lead author Kaitlin Naughten, a researcher at the British Antarctic Survey who specializes in ocean and ice modeling, said in a statement. “If we wanted to preserve it in its historical state, we would have needed action on climate change decades ago.”

Enough water is locked up in the West Antarctic ice sheet to trigger up to 16.4 feet (5 meters) of sea level rise, according to the statement. Currently, the biggest contribution to sea level rise from this region appears to come from floating ice shelves in the Amundsen Sea, which are melting as a result of warmer temperatures in the Southern Ocean.

Naughten and her colleagues ran simulations on a supercomputer to predict how much of this melting could still be avoided by reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Taking into account climate events and variability, such as the global effects induced by El Niño, the researchers found little change in the rate of ice loss among four different scenarios outlined in the Paris Agreement.

The three scenarios predicting the lowest rise in mean global temperature — 1.5 C above preindustrial levels, 2 C (3.6 F) above preindustrial levels, and between 2 and 3 C (2.6 and 5.4 F) above preindustrial levels — had nearly identical effects on the rate of melting in the Amundsen Sea, according to the statement.

The scenario foreseeing the highest rise in mean global temperature — which is deemed unlikely to occur, but would lead to 4.3 C (7.7 F) above preindustrial levels — diverged from the lower three, but only after 2045, when it projected more ice melting than the other scenarios. Until then, estimated melting was comparable for the four scenarios, according to the study, published Monday (Oct. 23) in the journal Nature Climate Change.

The findings are bleak, but predicting the consequences of climate change may help us prepare for them. “The bright side is that by recognizing this situation in advance, the world will have more time to adapt to the sea level rise that’s coming,” Naughten said.

Our actions to limit greenhouse gas emissions may not come in time to prevent “the collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet,” according to the study, but slowing the rate of sea level rise is still a vital pursuit.

“We must not stop working to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels,” Naughten said. “The slower the sea level changes, the easier it will be for governments and society to adapt to, even if it can’t be stopped.”

https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/antarctica/collapse-of-the-west-antarctic-ice-sheet-is-unavoidable-study-finds

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Date: 26/10/2023 16:35:14
From: Michael V
ID: 2088355
Subject: re: Collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is 'unavoidable,' study finds

Bugger.

:(

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Date: 26/10/2023 23:30:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2088419
Subject: re: Collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is 'unavoidable,' study finds

PermeateFree said:

https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/antarctica/collapse-of-the-west-antarctic-ice-sheet-is-unavoidable-study-finds

Collapse of the West 

/us stops reading

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Date: 26/10/2023 23:59:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2088424
Subject: re: Collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is 'unavoidable,' study finds

Michael V said:

Bugger.

:(

ahahahahahahahahaha

ahahahahahahahahaha

Global fossil fuel subsidies double as 2023 expected to be hottest in 100,000 years

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/global-fossil-fuel-subsidies-double-as-2023-expected-to-be-hottest-in-100-000-years-20231024-p5eei5.html

https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/advance-article/doi/10.1093/biosci/biad080/7319571?login=false

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Date: 27/10/2023 00:29:10
From: dv
ID: 2088427
Subject: re: Collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is 'unavoidable,' study finds

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Bugger.

:(

ahahahahahahahahaha

ahahahahahahahahaha

Global fossil fuel subsidies double as 2023 expected to be hottest in 100,000 years

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/global-fossil-fuel-subsidies-double-as-2023-expected-to-be-hottest-in-100-000-years-20231024-p5eei5.html

https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/advance-article/doi/10.1093/biosci/biad080/7319571?login=false


A moment of silence for all the subsidies we lost in 2020

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Date: 27/10/2023 06:48:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 2088454
Subject: re: Collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is 'unavoidable,' study finds

Michael V said:


Bugger.

:(

Life is going to find it continually more difficult to survive.

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Date: 27/10/2023 08:47:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2088475
Subject: re: Collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is 'unavoidable,' study finds

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Bugger.

:(

Life is going to find it continually more difficult to survive.

ahahahahahahaha

Burning Solar Electrical Systems Bad ¡ Burning Black Shit Lifted From The Ground Good ¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-27/solar-system-fire-maintenance-warning-for-home-owners/103026362

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Date: 28/10/2023 09:55:36
From: Ogmog
ID: 2088763
Subject: re: Collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is 'unavoidable,' study finds

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

Bugger.

:(

Life is going to find it continually more difficult to survive.

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Date: 28/10/2023 10:02:30
From: Ogmog
ID: 2088764
Subject: re: Collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is 'unavoidable,' study finds

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Bugger.

:(

ahahahahahahahahaha

ahahahahahahahahaha

Global fossil fuel subsidies double as 2023 expected to be hottest in 100,000 years

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/global-fossil-fuel-subsidies-double-as-2023-expected-to-be-hottest-in-100-000-years-20231024-p5eei5.html

https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/advance-article/doi/10.1093/biosci/biad080/7319571?login=false

but seriously
Donald DUMP doomed us all
when he sold out to the Energy Piggies
by pulling the US out of the Paris Climate Accord
immediately upon taking office in 2016.

just another crime he and the Bushes have to answer for
for using “9-11” to steal the election from PRESIDENT Al Gore

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Date: 28/10/2023 10:09:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2088769
Subject: re: Collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is 'unavoidable,' study finds

Ogmog said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Bugger.

:(

ahahahahahahahahaha

ahahahahahahahahaha

Global fossil fuel subsidies double as 2023 expected to be hottest in 100,000 years

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/global-fossil-fuel-subsidies-double-as-2023-expected-to-be-hottest-in-100-000-years-20231024-p5eei5.html

https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/advance-article/doi/10.1093/biosci/biad080/7319571?login=false

but seriously
Donald DUMP doomed us all
when he sold out to the Energy Piggies
by pulling the US out of the Paris Climate Accord
immediately upon taking office in 2016.

just another crime he and the Bushes have to answer for
for using “9-11” to steal the election from PRESIDENT Al Gore

Another Success For Democracy ¡

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Date: 28/10/2023 11:40:33
From: Ogmog
ID: 2088796
Subject: re: Collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is 'unavoidable,' study finds

SCIENCE said:

Ogmog said:

SCIENCE said:

ahahahahahahahahaha

ahahahahahahahahaha

Global fossil fuel subsidies double as 2023 expected to be hottest in 100,000 years

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/global-fossil-fuel-subsidies-double-as-2023-expected-to-be-hottest-in-100-000-years-20231024-p5eei5.html

https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/advance-article/doi/10.1093/biosci/biad080/7319571?login=false

but seriously
Donald DUMP doomed us all
when he sold out to the Energy Piggies
by pulling the US out of the Paris Climate Accord
immediately upon taking office in 2016.

just another crime he and the Bushes have to answer for
for using “9-11” to steal the election from PRESIDENT Al Gore

Another Success For Democracy ¡

if by “Democracy” you mean the right to vote
even though dollars can still win out over sense
…yes.

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Date: 28/10/2023 12:02:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2088799
Subject: re: Collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is 'unavoidable,' study finds

Ogmog

[quote=SCIENCE said:

Ogmog said:

but seriously
Donald DUMP doomed us all
when he sold out to the Energy Piggies
by pulling the US out of the Paris Climate Accord
immediately upon taking office in 2016.

just another crime he and the Bushes have to answer for
for using “9-11” to steal the election from PRESIDENT Al Gore

Another Success For Democracy ¡

if by “Democracy” you mean the right to vote
even though dollars can still win out over sense
…yes.

Sure, we mean democracy, including but not limited to True Democracy¡

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Date: 28/10/2023 12:03:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2088800
Subject: re: Collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is 'unavoidable,' study finds

Ogmog said:

SCIENCE said:

Ogmog said:

but seriously
Donald DUMP doomed us all
when he sold out to the Energy Piggies
by pulling the US out of the Paris Climate Accord
immediately upon taking office in 2016.

just another crime he and the Bushes have to answer for
for using “9-11” to steal the election from PRESIDENT Al Gore

Another Success For Democracy ¡

if by “Democracy” you mean the right to vote
even though dollars can still win out over sense
…yes.

Sure, we mean democracy, including but not limited to True Democracy¡

Apologies for the disquote formatting failure.

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Date: 28/10/2023 15:02:50
From: Ogmog
ID: 2088851
Subject: re: Collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet is 'unavoidable,' study finds

SCIENCE said:

Ogmog said:

SCIENCE said:

Another Success For Democracy ¡

if by “Democracy” you mean the right to vote
even though dollars can still win out over sense
…yes.

Sure, we mean democracy, including but not limited to True Democracy¡

Apologies for the disquote formatting failure.

nah
just pist orf
that that denying
wrench throwing a-hole is
likely to make matters worser by
espousing greed over good sense

I’m on the verge of giving up as everyone
loses faith in any form of sensible governance

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