Yes. It does feel like November.

You’ve just reminded me

We probably need a death threat thread

update.

I am being dangerous with nitric. I think we have gone past the fear stage and we are into the making stage.

sarahs mum said:

update.

I am being dangerous with nitric. I think we have gone past the fear stage and we are into the making stage.

Looking forward to the results.

CCTV reveals moment ‘gangster’ took service station workers hostage with replica gun
ABC Newcastle

sarahs mum said:

update.

I am being dangerous with nitric. I think we have gone past the fear stage and we are into the making stage.

Good news :)

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

update.

I am being dangerous with nitric. I think we have gone past the fear stage and we are into the making stage.

Good news :)

The toy duck plate and the toy elephant plate are out and cleaned. Ripping a stack of paper down to 21cmsq is the next job.

roughbarked said:

CCTV reveals moment ‘gangster’ took service station workers hostage with replica gun
ABC Newcastle

What If It Was A Mobile Phone Disguised As A Taser

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

CCTV reveals moment ‘gangster’ took service station workers hostage with replica gun
ABC Newcastle

What If It Was A Mobile Phone Disguised As A Taser

The attendant may have laughed until he was tasered.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

update.

I am being dangerous with nitric. I think we have gone past the fear stage and we are into the making stage.

Good news :)

The toy duck plate and the toy elephant plate are out and cleaned. Ripping a stack of paper down to 21cmsq is the next job.

Good progress.

I’m still rearranging the art studio to be a combined art-&-model-railway room.

Couple more hours of that to go but I’ll probably finish it tomorrow.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Good news :)

The toy duck plate and the toy elephant plate are out and cleaned. Ripping a stack of paper down to 21cmsq is the next job.

Good progress.

I’m still rearranging the art studio to be a combined art-&-model-railway room.

Couple more hours of that to go but I’ll probably finish it tomorrow.

can you make the rail road into a bit of christmas for a little while?

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

CCTV reveals moment ‘gangster’ took service station workers hostage with replica gun
ABC Newcastle

What If It Was A Mobile Phone Disguised As A Taser

The attendant may have laughed until he was tasered.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

The toy duck plate and the toy elephant plate are out and cleaned. Ripping a stack of paper down to 21cmsq is the next job.

Good progress.

I’m still rearranging the art studio to be a combined art-&-model-railway room.

Couple more hours of that to go but I’ll probably finish it tomorrow.

can you make the rail road into a bit of christmas for a little while?

Well I can set it up on the table with an oval of track just to watch some trains go around (but I’ll need to order more track first).

But the actual scenic construction of the railway will take aaages, even though it’s small.

But it’ll get me away from the pooter screen for longer periods, so that’s worthy. And while in the art room I may do more actual art too :)

i’m here
you’re there

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Good progress.

I’m still rearranging the art studio to be a combined art-&-model-railway room.

Couple more hours of that to go but I’ll probably finish it tomorrow.

can you make the rail road into a bit of christmas for a little while?

Well I can set it up on the table with an oval of track just to watch some trains go around (but I’ll need to order more track first).

But the actual scenic construction of the railway will take aaages, even though it’s small.

But it’ll get me away from the pooter screen for longer periods, so that’s worthy. And while in the art room I may do more actual art too :)

but you could do red tinsel and led lights until christmas.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

can you make the rail road into a bit of christmas for a little while?

Well I can set it up on the table with an oval of track just to watch some trains go around (but I’ll need to order more track first).

But the actual scenic construction of the railway will take aaages, even though it’s small.

But it’ll get me away from the pooter screen for longer periods, so that’s worthy. And while in the art room I may do more actual art too :)

but you could do red tinsel and led lights until christmas.

If I had a mini Xmas tree it might be worthwhile.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Well I can set it up on the table with an oval of track just to watch some trains go around (but I’ll need to order more track first).

But the actual scenic construction of the railway will take aaages, even though it’s small.

But it’ll get me away from the pooter screen for longer periods, so that’s worthy. And while in the art room I may do more actual art too :)

but you could do red tinsel and led lights until christmas.

If I had a mini Xmas tree it might be worthwhile.

Maybe just have the oval of track running around a little forest of these, or similar.

https://www.innovations.com.au/p/gifts/hampers-and-food/xspark-mini-christmas-trees

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

but you could do red tinsel and led lights until christmas.

If I had a mini Xmas tree it might be worthwhile.

Maybe just have the oval of track running around a little forest of these, or similar.

https://www.innovations.com.au/p/gifts/hampers-and-food/xspark-mini-christmas-trees

nice. :)

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

If I had a mini Xmas tree it might be worthwhile.

Maybe just have the oval of track running around a little forest of these, or similar.

https://www.innovations.com.au/p/gifts/hampers-and-food/xspark-mini-christmas-trees

nice. :)

With maybe this bigger one in the middle. Still easily small enough for tabletop use.

https://www.innovations.com.au/p/gifts/christmas-decorations/fibre-optic-tree

Do you dress up when you play trains

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Maybe just have the oval of track running around a little forest of these, or similar.

https://www.innovations.com.au/p/gifts/hampers-and-food/xspark-mini-christmas-trees

nice. :)

With maybe this bigger one in the middle. Still easily small enough for tabletop use.

https://www.innovations.com.au/p/gifts/christmas-decorations/fibre-optic-tree

i quite like the little ones. they are understated. and I can imagine them on the dresser next year with skulls.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

nice. :)

With maybe this bigger one in the middle. Still easily small enough for tabletop use.

https://www.innovations.com.au/p/gifts/christmas-decorations/fibre-optic-tree

i quite like the little ones. they are understated. and I can imagine them on the dresser next year with skulls.

Rodney, Mr Tunks, the noisy neighbours, anyone that crosses Berserker Bubblecar the serial killer of Tasmania

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

nice. :)

With maybe this bigger one in the middle. Still easily small enough for tabletop use.

https://www.innovations.com.au/p/gifts/christmas-decorations/fibre-optic-tree

i quite like the little ones. they are understated. and I can imagine them on the dresser next year with skulls.

Yes I might just get a couple sets of those.

Cymek said:

Do you dress up when you play trains

we put on our robes and wizard hats.

Food report. (I should have started a November thread this morning, shouldn’t I…)

We are having chicken and veg in curry sauce tonight. Which means I’m going to stir fry chicken and veg and douse it with this stuff:

We haven’t use it before, but the satay sauce in that brand is very, very good.

i just watched half of….

‘Texas woman murdered a mother and stole her unborn baby…’

and I am ready to think about anything ese.

buffy said:

Food report. (I should have started a November thread this morning, shouldn’t I…)

We are having chicken and veg in curry sauce tonight. Which means I’m going to stir fry chicken and veg and douse it with this stuff:

We haven’t use it before, but the satay sauce in that brand is very, very good.

Sounds tasty enough.

I’m having curry-like tucker too but with tuna, chopped tomatoes, red capsicum, red onion, peas, corn, Harissa seasoning, hot curry powder and a splodge of cottage cheese.

sarahs mum said:

i just watched half of….

‘Texas woman murdered a mother and stole her unborn baby…’

and I am ready to think about anything ese.

I discuss foetal abduction in my unit on forms of violence…

ooh look…Arts has returned…

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

i just watched half of….

‘Texas woman murdered a mother and stole her unborn baby…’

and I am ready to think about anything ese.

I discuss foetal abduction in my unit on forms of violence…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6F7hmX0Ac

contains police interviews and such.

Allso…good to read you. xx

sarahs mum said:

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

i just watched half of….

‘Texas woman murdered a mother and stole her unborn baby…’

and I am ready to think about anything ese.

I discuss foetal abduction in my unit on forms of violence…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6F7hmX0Ac

contains police interviews and such.

Allso…good to read you. xx

also also.

sarahs mum said:

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

i just watched half of….

‘Texas woman murdered a mother and stole her unborn baby…’

and I am ready to think about anything ese.

I discuss foetal abduction in my unit on forms of violence…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6F7hmX0Ac

contains police interviews and such.

Allso…good to read you. xx

oh yeas, we discuss all the cases.. fortunately there aren’t too many, but the fact that we have cases to discuss at all is a terrible thing. However, from an offender psychology and behavioural point of view, they are fascinating.

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

Arts said:

I discuss foetal abduction in my unit on forms of violence…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6F7hmX0Ac

contains police interviews and such.

Allso…good to read you. xx

oh yeas, we discuss all the cases.. fortunately there aren’t too many, but the fact that we have cases to discuss at all is a terrible thing. However, from an offender psychology and behavioural point of view, they are fascinating.

Is survival rate for the child high, like do the people who do it research it, so they have a reasonable idea of what to do without killing the child, I assume the mother dying is likely irrelevant

Cymek said:

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6F7hmX0Ac

contains police interviews and such.

Allso…good to read you. xx

oh yeas, we discuss all the cases.. fortunately there aren’t too many, but the fact that we have cases to discuss at all is a terrible thing. However, from an offender psychology and behavioural point of view, they are fascinating.

Is survival rate for the child high, like do the people who do it research it, so they have a reasonable idea of what to do without killing the child, I assume the mother dying is likely irrelevant

nah it’s fairly low… survival for both the child and parent.. maybe 1 in 3 babies survive

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Arts said:

I discuss foetal abduction in my unit on forms of violence…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6F7hmX0Ac

contains police interviews and such.

Allso…good to read you. xx

also also.

+1 :)

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

Arts said:

I discuss foetal abduction in my unit on forms of violence…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6F7hmX0Ac

contains police interviews and such.

Allso…good to read you. xx

oh yeas, we discuss all the cases.. fortunately there aren’t too many, but the fact that we have cases to discuss at all is a terrible thing. However, from an offender psychology and behavioural point of view, they are fascinating.

Both horrifying and fascinating.

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

What If It Was A Mobile Phone Disguised As A Taser

The attendant may have laughed until he was tasered.

Looks like a Maxwell Smart trick. Sorry Chief.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Good progress.

I’m still rearranging the art studio to be a combined art-&-model-railway room.

Couple more hours of that to go but I’ll probably finish it tomorrow.

can you make the rail road into a bit of christmas for a little while?

Well I can set it up on the table with an oval of track just to watch some trains go around (but I’ll need to order more track first).

But the actual scenic construction of the railway will take aaages, even though it’s small.

But it’ll get me away from the pooter screen for longer periods, so that’s worthy. And while in the art room I may do more actual art too :)

Aldi have Christmas train sets today.

Cymek said:

Do you dress up when you play trains

He wears the fat controller uniform?

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6F7hmX0Ac

contains police interviews and such.

Allso…good to read you. xx

oh yeas, we discuss all the cases.. fortunately there aren’t too many, but the fact that we have cases to discuss at all is a terrible thing. However, from an offender psychology and behavioural point of view, they are fascinating.

Both horrifying and fascinating.

It’s the combination of crazy and premeditated. that’s scary.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

oh yeas, we discuss all the cases.. fortunately there aren’t too many, but the fact that we have cases to discuss at all is a terrible thing. However, from an offender psychology and behavioural point of view, they are fascinating.

Both horrifying and fascinating.

It’s the combination of crazy and premeditated. that’s scary.

Yes. People are motivated to do some very strange things. They just can’t be trusted.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

CCTV reveals moment ‘gangster’ took service station workers hostage with replica gun
ABC Newcastle

What If It Was A Mobile Phone Disguised As A Taser

The attendant may have laughed until he was tasered.

A couple of decades ago, there was some young chaps in Bundaberg who imagined themselves to ‘bad dudes’ or whatever.

The decided to hold up a bank in West Bundaberg, a Westpac i think it was.

Things began to go awry when a bloke in the bank queue out shit on the ‘gun’ that the leader was wielding, telling him that ‘ i don’t think much of yer gun, mate’.

Ultimately, they were dispersed, with one of the would-be bandits being chased across the road by a very irate lady bank customer, who had him bailed up in a public toilet for awhile.

So the story about the mum that stole the son Blaze…so the LDS crazies are running another end of the world campaign. With visions. And added prepping culture. There is a guy called Gileadi and he is an ‘Isiah’ expert and he is calling the shots.

sarahs mum said:

So the story about the mum that stole the son Blaze…so the LDS crazies are running another end of the world campaign. With visions. And added prepping culture. There is a guy called Gileadi and he is an ‘Isiah’ expert and he is calling the shots.

Hopefully, it’ll be the end of just their world.

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

So the story about the mum that stole the son Blaze…so the LDS crazies are running another end of the world campaign. With visions. And added prepping culture. There is a guy called Gileadi and he is an ‘Isiah’ expert and he is calling the shots.

Hopefully, it’ll be the end of just their world.

It’s all part of the fabric of the USA.

Having conversations about whether God would want you to shoot the zombies does make Trump look sane.

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

So the story about the mum that stole the son Blaze…so the LDS crazies are running another end of the world campaign. With visions. And added prepping culture. There is a guy called Gileadi and he is an ‘Isiah’ expert and he is calling the shots.

Hopefully, it’ll be the end of just their world.

Wanting to survive the end of the world would really depend on how it ended
Zombies and aliens yeah

Nuclear war probably not

Average Rainfall To Nov 376.4mm 73.4 day(s)
Total For 2023 191.0mm 70.0 day(s)
Total To This Day 2022 773.2mm 110.0 day(s)

An apocalyptic dust plume killed off the dinosaurs, study says

By Carolyn Y. Johnson
October 30, 2023 at 12:00 p.m. EDT

The mighty dinosaurs may have been done in by dust, according to a new study in Nature Geoscience.

For decades, scientists have known that a giant asteroid smashed into what is now the Yucatán Peninsula roughly 66 million years ago. Most experts agree the event triggered a mass extinction that wiped out three-quarters of all species, including almost all the dinosaurs.

Sign up for the Climate Coach newsletter and get advice for life on our changing planet, in your inbox every Tuesday and Thursday.
But precisely how the impact led to an apocalypse has remained unsettled, with much attention focused on the “impact winter” that occurred afterward — a period of cold, global darkness.

In 1980, scientists posited that the asteroid kicked up a big cloud of pulverized rock dust that starved plants of sunlight. But more recent investigations focused on sun-blocking soot from the initial impact and subsequent global wildfires, or on long-lived sulfur aerosols released by the cataclysm.

The question of how the sun was blocked, and for how long, has been critical to tease out because it shaped the evolution of life on the planet in fundamental ways. A prolonged period of darkness that shut down plants’ ability to turn sunlight into energy could have led to the collapse of the entire food chain. Understanding how life responded and, in some cases, outlasted such an extreme climatic event may provide insight into future extinctions.

For the new study, researchers coupled computer simulation with an analysis of sediment layers at the Tanis paleontology site, which preserves the aftermath of the Chicxulub impact in extraordinary detail. The work reveals that a massive plume of fine-grained dust blanketed the planet and would have lingered in the atmosphere for 15 years, cooling Earth’s surface by 27 degrees and shutting down photosynthesis for two years.

“Dust could shut down photosynthesis for such a long time that it could pose severe challenges,” said Cem Berk Senel, a planetary scientist at the Royal Observatory of Belgium who led the study. “It could result in a chain reaction of extinction to all species in the food chain.”

New clues from North Dakota
Many research teams have attempted to model the aftermath of the Chicxulub impact. The new study stands out because the team drew on data from the Tanis site in present-day North Dakota, which was unveiled to the public in 2019. Unique among fossil sites, Tanis captures the immediate aftermath of the impact event in such incredible detail that scientists can tell what season the dinosaurs died. (It was a spring day in the late Cretaceous.)

Senel’s team discovered fine dust grains from the Tanis site are about the same size as microscopic bacteria, a small but not too tiny size range that would have allowed the dust to persist in the atmosphere for 15 years. That means dust would have made a greater contribution to blocking sunlight from reaching the surface than soot particles or sulfur aerosols, they report.

“It is a fascinating study,” Clay Tabor, an assistant professor in the earth sciences department at the University of Connecticut, wrote in an email. Tabor in 2020 published a paper in Geophysical Research Letters showing that soot from fires would have been a primary driver of photosynthetic shutdown.

Tabor said the new information on dust size will help improve simulations of the climate after the impact. The grains of dust the researchers discovered could have persisted in the atmosphere for a long time, according to the model the researchers used, leading to a larger decrease in surface sunlight than other sun-blocking particles.

But he questioned whether differences in climate models might explain the differences between various studies. For example, the new model predicted a similar amount of soot would have had a smaller effect on sunlight than some previous models.

The behavior of tiny particles in the atmosphere is complicated, and “these processes can be difficult to accurately simulate, especially in the extreme case of the Chicxulub impact,” Tabor said.

Kunio Kaiho, a planetary scientist at Tohoku University, has published research showing that the asteroid smashed into Earth at just the right spot to cause a mass extinction, striking oil-rich rocks to generate sun-blocking soot.

Kaiho said the new study “holds significant importance in our understanding of the mechanisms responsible for global cooling and mass extinctions.”

A ‘potpourri’ of catastrophe
The giant impact didn’t just create a dust cloud. The six-mile-wide asteroid sent shudders through the earth, generating tsunamis. It ejected debris that then fell back down, heating the atmosphere upon reentry to cause global wildfires. It kicked up rock dust and other types of aerosols, and it released greenhouse gases that kicked off a later period of global warming that may have lasted for tens of thousands of years.

David Kring, a planetary scientist at the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston who was not involved in the study, said that the new work affirms the original hypothesis behind the mass extinction, which attributed the shutdown of photosynthesis to dust.

“The duration of darkness is really important, because if, in fact, photosynthesis was shut down and that drove extinctions, it has to be dark for a fairly substantial length of time,” Kring said.

But he added that the wide-ranging environmental consequences of the impact — from the global wildfires to sulfuric acid rain to major climatic shifts — make it hard to tease out a singular cause for the widespread deaths.

“Each of those environmental consequences affected different parts of the world and lasted for different amounts of time,” he said. “So one of the things that we understand in general, and not yet in detail, is that it’s really this potpourri of environmental effects that led to the extinctions. There’s no single silver bullet.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2023/10/30/dust-killed-dinosaurs-tanis-climate/?

Witty Rejoinder said:

An apocalyptic dust plume killed off the dinosaurs, study says

By Carolyn Y. Johnson
October 30, 2023 at 12:00 p.m. EDT

The mighty dinosaurs may have been done in by dust, according to a new study in Nature Geoscience.

For decades, scientists have known that a giant asteroid smashed into what is now the Yucatán Peninsula roughly 66 million years ago. Most experts agree the event triggered a mass extinction that wiped out three-quarters of all species, including almost all the dinosaurs.

Sign up for the Climate Coach newsletter and get advice for life on our changing planet, in your inbox every Tuesday and Thursday.
But precisely how the impact led to an apocalypse has remained unsettled, with much attention focused on the “impact winter” that occurred afterward — a period of cold, global darkness.

In 1980, scientists posited that the asteroid kicked up a big cloud of pulverized rock dust that starved plants of sunlight. But more recent investigations focused on sun-blocking soot from the initial impact and subsequent global wildfires, or on long-lived sulfur aerosols released by the cataclysm.

The question of how the sun was blocked, and for how long, has been critical to tease out because it shaped the evolution of life on the planet in fundamental ways. A prolonged period of darkness that shut down plants’ ability to turn sunlight into energy could have led to the collapse of the entire food chain. Understanding how life responded and, in some cases, outlasted such an extreme climatic event may provide insight into future extinctions.

For the new study, researchers coupled computer simulation with an analysis of sediment layers at the Tanis paleontology site, which preserves the aftermath of the Chicxulub impact in extraordinary detail. The work reveals that a massive plume of fine-grained dust blanketed the planet and would have lingered in the atmosphere for 15 years, cooling Earth’s surface by 27 degrees and shutting down photosynthesis for two years.

“Dust could shut down photosynthesis for such a long time that it could pose severe challenges,” said Cem Berk Senel, a planetary scientist at the Royal Observatory of Belgium who led the study. “It could result in a chain reaction of extinction to all species in the food chain.”

New clues from North Dakota
Many research teams have attempted to model the aftermath of the Chicxulub impact. The new study stands out because the team drew on data from the Tanis site in present-day North Dakota, which was unveiled to the public in 2019. Unique among fossil sites, Tanis captures the immediate aftermath of the impact event in such incredible detail that scientists can tell what season the dinosaurs died. (It was a spring day in the late Cretaceous.)

Senel’s team discovered fine dust grains from the Tanis site are about the same size as microscopic bacteria, a small but not too tiny size range that would have allowed the dust to persist in the atmosphere for 15 years. That means dust would have made a greater contribution to blocking sunlight from reaching the surface than soot particles or sulfur aerosols, they report.

“It is a fascinating study,” Clay Tabor, an assistant professor in the earth sciences department at the University of Connecticut, wrote in an email. Tabor in 2020 published a paper in Geophysical Research Letters showing that soot from fires would have been a primary driver of photosynthetic shutdown.

Tabor said the new information on dust size will help improve simulations of the climate after the impact. The grains of dust the researchers discovered could have persisted in the atmosphere for a long time, according to the model the researchers used, leading to a larger decrease in surface sunlight than other sun-blocking particles.

But he questioned whether differences in climate models might explain the differences between various studies. For example, the new model predicted a similar amount of soot would have had a smaller effect on sunlight than some previous models.

The behavior of tiny particles in the atmosphere is complicated, and “these processes can be difficult to accurately simulate, especially in the extreme case of the Chicxulub impact,” Tabor said.

Kunio Kaiho, a planetary scientist at Tohoku University, has published research showing that the asteroid smashed into Earth at just the right spot to cause a mass extinction, striking oil-rich rocks to generate sun-blocking soot.

Kaiho said the new study “holds significant importance in our understanding of the mechanisms responsible for global cooling and mass extinctions.”

A ‘potpourri’ of catastrophe
The giant impact didn’t just create a dust cloud. The six-mile-wide asteroid sent shudders through the earth, generating tsunamis. It ejected debris that then fell back down, heating the atmosphere upon reentry to cause global wildfires. It kicked up rock dust and other types of aerosols, and it released greenhouse gases that kicked off a later period of global warming that may have lasted for tens of thousands of years.

David Kring, a planetary scientist at the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston who was not involved in the study, said that the new work affirms the original hypothesis behind the mass extinction, which attributed the shutdown of photosynthesis to dust.

“The duration of darkness is really important, because if, in fact, photosynthesis was shut down and that drove extinctions, it has to be dark for a fairly substantial length of time,” Kring said.

But he added that the wide-ranging environmental consequences of the impact — from the global wildfires to sulfuric acid rain to major climatic shifts — make it hard to tease out a singular cause for the widespread deaths.

“Each of those environmental consequences affected different parts of the world and lasted for different amounts of time,” he said. “So one of the things that we understand in general, and not yet in detail, is that it’s really this potpourri of environmental effects that led to the extinctions. There’s no single silver bullet.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2023/10/30/dust-killed-dinosaurs-tanis-climate/?

Very interesting.

I go turns electric blanket on

transition said:

I go turns electric blanket on

It’s quite cool at the redoubt as well.
Should quite down a bit.

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

I go turns electric blanket on

It’s quite cool at the redoubt as well.
Should quite down a bit.

The fires down a bit

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

I go turns electric blanket on

It’s quite cool at the redoubt as well.
Should quite down a bit.

The fires down a bit

22 deg C in Perth

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s quite cool at the redoubt as well.
Should quite down a bit.

The fires down a bit

22 deg C in Perth

very barmy.

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s quite cool at the redoubt as well.
Should quite down a bit.

The fires down a bit

22 deg C in Perth

Yeah. still in t-shirt here. No heater on, nor electric blankie.

Whe driving into Stanthorpe this afternoon I lost power going up hills, got it to the racq in town and it was an intercooler hose that had come off. They fixed it, all good now.

party_pants said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The fires down a bit

22 deg C in Perth

Yeah. still in t-shirt here. No heater on, nor electric blankie.

Only about 10 here but I’ve been playing instruments and composing, which always overheats me, so I’m just in shirtsleeves with no heater on.

Witty Rejoinder said:

An apocalyptic dust plume killed off the dinosaurs, study says

By Carolyn Y. Johnson
October 30, 2023 at 12:00 p.m. EDT

The mighty dinosaurs may have been done in by dust, according to a new study in Nature Geoscience.

For decades, scientists have known that a giant asteroid smashed into what is now the Yucatán Peninsula roughly 66 million years ago. Most experts agree the event triggered a mass extinction that wiped out three-quarters of all species, including almost all the dinosaurs.

Sign up for the Climate Coach newsletter and get advice for life on our changing planet, in your inbox every Tuesday and Thursday.
But precisely how the impact led to an apocalypse has remained unsettled, with much attention focused on the “impact winter” that occurred afterward — a period of cold, global darkness.

In 1980, scientists posited that the asteroid kicked up a big cloud of pulverized rock dust that starved plants of sunlight. But more recent investigations focused on sun-blocking soot from the initial impact and subsequent global wildfires, or on long-lived sulfur aerosols released by the cataclysm.

The question of how the sun was blocked, and for how long, has been critical to tease out because it shaped the evolution of life on the planet in fundamental ways. A prolonged period of darkness that shut down plants’ ability to turn sunlight into energy could have led to the collapse of the entire food chain. Understanding how life responded and, in some cases, outlasted such an extreme climatic event may provide insight into future extinctions.

For the new study, researchers coupled computer simulation with an analysis of sediment layers at the Tanis paleontology site, which preserves the aftermath of the Chicxulub impact in extraordinary detail. The work reveals that a massive plume of fine-grained dust blanketed the planet and would have lingered in the atmosphere for 15 years, cooling Earth’s surface by 27 degrees and shutting down photosynthesis for two years.

“Dust could shut down photosynthesis for such a long time that it could pose severe challenges,” said Cem Berk Senel, a planetary scientist at the Royal Observatory of Belgium who led the study. “It could result in a chain reaction of extinction to all species in the food chain.”

New clues from North Dakota
Many research teams have attempted to model the aftermath of the Chicxulub impact. The new study stands out because the team drew on data from the Tanis site in present-day North Dakota, which was unveiled to the public in 2019. Unique among fossil sites, Tanis captures the immediate aftermath of the impact event in such incredible detail that scientists can tell what season the dinosaurs died. (It was a spring day in the late Cretaceous.)

Senel’s team discovered fine dust grains from the Tanis site are about the same size as microscopic bacteria, a small but not too tiny size range that would have allowed the dust to persist in the atmosphere for 15 years. That means dust would have made a greater contribution to blocking sunlight from reaching the surface than soot particles or sulfur aerosols, they report.

“It is a fascinating study,” Clay Tabor, an assistant professor in the earth sciences department at the University of Connecticut, wrote in an email. Tabor in 2020 published a paper in Geophysical Research Letters showing that soot from fires would have been a primary driver of photosynthetic shutdown.

Tabor said the new information on dust size will help improve simulations of the climate after the impact. The grains of dust the researchers discovered could have persisted in the atmosphere for a long time, according to the model the researchers used, leading to a larger decrease in surface sunlight than other sun-blocking particles.

But he questioned whether differences in climate models might explain the differences between various studies. For example, the new model predicted a similar amount of soot would have had a smaller effect on sunlight than some previous models.

The behavior of tiny particles in the atmosphere is complicated, and “these processes can be difficult to accurately simulate, especially in the extreme case of the Chicxulub impact,” Tabor said.

Kunio Kaiho, a planetary scientist at Tohoku University, has published research showing that the asteroid smashed into Earth at just the right spot to cause a mass extinction, striking oil-rich rocks to generate sun-blocking soot.

Kaiho said the new study “holds significant importance in our understanding of the mechanisms responsible for global cooling and mass extinctions.”

A ‘potpourri’ of catastrophe
The giant impact didn’t just create a dust cloud. The six-mile-wide asteroid sent shudders through the earth, generating tsunamis. It ejected debris that then fell back down, heating the atmosphere upon reentry to cause global wildfires. It kicked up rock dust and other types of aerosols, and it released greenhouse gases that kicked off a later period of global warming that may have lasted for tens of thousands of years.

David Kring, a planetary scientist at the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston who was not involved in the study, said that the new work affirms the original hypothesis behind the mass extinction, which attributed the shutdown of photosynthesis to dust.

“The duration of darkness is really important, because if, in fact, photosynthesis was shut down and that drove extinctions, it has to be dark for a fairly substantial length of time,” Kring said.

But he added that the wide-ranging environmental consequences of the impact — from the global wildfires to sulfuric acid rain to major climatic shifts — make it hard to tease out a singular cause for the widespread deaths.

“Each of those environmental consequences affected different parts of the world and lasted for different amounts of time,” he said. “So one of the things that we understand in general, and not yet in detail, is that it’s really this potpourri of environmental effects that led to the extinctions. There’s no single silver bullet.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2023/10/30/dust-killed-dinosaurs-tanis-climate/?

Worth a thread. And anyway we need something else at the top of By Topic instead of wookie’s bullshit.

Reading about the overthrow of Farouk and it gets a bit surreal in places.

>In what became known as Project FF (Fat Fucker), officers of the Central Intelligence Agency led by Kermit Roosevelt Jr. were in contact with Free Officers. The extent and importance of American assistance to the Free Officers has been hotly debated by historians with the historian P. J. Vatikiotis maintaining that various CIA officers in their memoirs such as Miles Copeland Jr. in his 1969 autobiography The Game of Nations vastly exaggerated their role assisting the Free Officers.

Farouk is also reported as having said “The whole world is in revolt. Soon there will be only five Kings left—the King of England, the King of Spades, the King of Clubs, the King of Hearts, and the King of Diamonds.”<

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farouk_of_Egypt

Bubblecar said:

Reading about the overthrow of Farouk and it gets a bit surreal in places.

>In what became known as Project FF (Fat Fucker), officers of the Central Intelligence Agency led by Kermit Roosevelt Jr. were in contact with Free Officers. The extent and importance of American assistance to the Free Officers has been hotly debated by historians with the historian P. J. Vatikiotis maintaining that various CIA officers in their memoirs such as Miles Copeland Jr. in his 1969 autobiography The Game of Nations vastly exaggerated their role assisting the Free Officers.

Farouk is also reported as having said “The whole world is in revolt. Soon there will be only five Kings left—the King of England, the King of Spades, the King of Clubs, the King of Hearts, and the King of Diamonds.”<

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farouk_of_Egypt

Kermit Roosevelt Jr. He was the grandson of Theodore and the second Kermit in the Roosevelt line. Two other Kermits were to follow, Kermit III and the current Kermit IV, a law professor.

Peak Warming Man said:

Whe driving into Stanthorpe this afternoon I lost power going up hills, got it to the racq in town and it was an intercooler hose that had come off. They fixed it, all good now.

Not the Triton???

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees at the back door and overcast. We are forecast a partly cloudy 19 degrees today.

A friend and I are going to the bush for a wander. And a picnic.

Morning pilgrims, what news.

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning pilgrims, what news.

I’ve fed the dogs, eaten my own breakfast and put together the stuff for a picnic lunch. Checked oil and water in the car and moved the car outside the front gate. Read back on the forum overnight. There was a lot of posts to skip, didn’t take long. I’ll catch up on the ABC news and the iNaturalist overnight stuff now. Friend arrives around 8.00am for the trip to the bush.

Is that the sort of news you were after?

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning pilgrims, what news.

I’ve fed the dogs, eaten my own breakfast and put together the stuff for a picnic lunch. Checked oil and water in the car and moved the car outside the front gate. Read back on the forum overnight. There was a lot of posts to skip, didn’t take long. I’ll catch up on the ABC news and the iNaturalist overnight stuff now. Friend arrives around 8.00am for the trip to the bush.

Is that the sort of news you were after?

Yes.

LOLWTF

CHOICE said that in its tests, the Xbox Mini Fridge — released by Microsoft, which makes the Xbox video game consoles — couldn’t actually make things cold, and used the same amount of energy as some full-sized fridges. “This ‘fridge’ took a lengthy 24 hours to bring eight drink cans to 21 degrees Celsius in our 32C test chamber,” Mr Kirkland says. “For context, 21C is warmer than tap water,” Mr Kirkland says.

SCIENCE said:

LOLWTF

CHOICE said that in its tests, the Xbox Mini Fridge — released by Microsoft, which makes the Xbox video game consoles — couldn’t actually make things cold, and used the same amount of energy as some full-sized fridges. “This ‘fridge’ took a lengthy 24 hours to bring eight drink cans to 21 degrees Celsius in our 32C test chamber,” Mr Kirkland says. “For context, 21C is warmer than tap water,” Mr Kirkland says.

Same as those new fangled mini aircons in a box. No better than a fan.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

LOLWTF

CHOICE said that in its tests, the Xbox Mini Fridge — released by Microsoft, which makes the Xbox video game consoles — couldn’t actually make things cold, and used the same amount of energy as some full-sized fridges. “This ‘fridge’ took a lengthy 24 hours to bring eight drink cans to 21 degrees Celsius in our 32C test chamber,” Mr Kirkland says. “For context, 21C is warmer than tap water,” Mr Kirkland says.

Same as those new fangled mini aircons in a box. No better than a fan.

Right but that’s because cooling air conditioners run on heat pump physics and if they’re in a box then where do they pump the heat except back into the air around them, like also, LOLWTF¿

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

LOLWTF

CHOICE said that in its tests, the Xbox Mini Fridge — released by Microsoft, which makes the Xbox video game consoles — couldn’t actually make things cold, and used the same amount of energy as some full-sized fridges. “This ‘fridge’ took a lengthy 24 hours to bring eight drink cans to 21 degrees Celsius in our 32C test chamber,” Mr Kirkland says. “For context, 21C is warmer than tap water,” Mr Kirkland says.

Same as those new fangled mini aircons in a box. No better than a fan.

Right but that’s because cooling air conditioners run on heat pump physics and if they’re in a box then where do they pump the heat except back into the air around them, like also, LOLWTF¿

They don’t tell you that in the advertising blarb.

Strange, we weren’t privileged enough to have lifts at school back in the day,

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-01/nsw-wahroonga-school-child-dies-trapped-under-lift/103050972

just used the stairs andor accessibility ramps like everyone else in the public cheaparse mostly ground level demountable school.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Same as those new fangled mini aircons in a box. No better than a fan.

Right but that’s because cooling air conditioners run on heat pump physics and if they’re in a box then where do they pump the heat except back into the air around them, like also, LOLWTF¿

They don’t tell you that in the advertising blarb.

Do you have an example of these things?

All that came up in a quick binge was either window mounted or connected to a window with an exhaust hose.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

Right but that’s because cooling air conditioners run on heat pump physics and if they’re in a box then where do they pump the heat except back into the air around them, like also, LOLWTF¿

They don’t tell you that in the advertising blarb.

Do you have an example of these things?

All that came up in a quick binge was either window mounted or connected to a window with an exhaust hose.

zero breeze makes portable one for camping. not “mini” as such but quite small and portable.

Boris said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

They don’t tell you that in the advertising blarb.

Do you have an example of these things?

All that came up in a quick binge was either window mounted or connected to a window with an exhaust hose.

zero breeze makes portable one for camping. not “mini” as such but quite small and portable.

OK, look like they’d be pretty inefficient, but not totally useless:

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Reading about the overthrow of Farouk and it gets a bit surreal in places.

>In what became known as Project FF (Fat Fucker), officers of the Central Intelligence Agency led by Kermit Roosevelt Jr. were in contact with Free Officers. The extent and importance of American assistance to the Free Officers has been hotly debated by historians with the historian P. J. Vatikiotis maintaining that various CIA officers in their memoirs such as Miles Copeland Jr. in his 1969 autobiography The Game of Nations vastly exaggerated their role assisting the Free Officers.

Farouk is also reported as having said “The whole world is in revolt. Soon there will be only five Kings left—the King of England, the King of Spades, the King of Clubs, the King of Hearts, and the King of Diamonds.”<

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farouk_of_Egypt

Kermit Roosevelt Jr. He was the grandson of Theodore and the second Kermit in the Roosevelt line. Two other Kermits were to follow, Kermit III and the current Kermit IV, a law professor.

And of course Kermit the Frog.

I had no idea that Kermit was a genuine name. I thought that Kermit was made up, as a frog sound.

spam email. at least it is interesting.

“Like the miracles of the sea’s profundities, your valued item is in
transit. Remain tuned for eBay’s shipment refreshes. Purchase receipt
no: 00392.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Boris said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Do you have an example of these things?

All that came up in a quick binge was either window mounted or connected to a window with an exhaust hose.

zero breeze makes portable one for camping. not “mini” as such but quite small and portable.

OK, look like they’d be pretty inefficient, but not totally useless:

Yeah we suppose there could be evaporative “air conditioners”, but then it really would be a case of not being any better than a fan blowing air across some water.

The police have arrested Erin Patterson.
The mushroom lady.

Boris said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

They don’t tell you that in the advertising blarb.

Do you have an example of these things?

All that came up in a quick binge was either window mounted or connected to a window with an exhaust hose.

zero breeze makes portable one for camping. not “mini” as such but quite small and portable.

They all have a ‘hose’ or vents (except split cycles, which have the outside unit)- there are some claimed’ AC units’ that aren’t (swamp coolers) that simply blown damp/humid air over you that ‘cools you off’- many of the ‘camping coolers’ are these…

I use the one from the caravan as a ‘cold air fan’ (its too small to actually cool an entire shed lol) but its nice on days over 35C to sit in the recliner in the ‘cold air blast’ to relax…- the hose is running out the open door behind it…

In the van, the hose dumps into a hole in the floor instead

turned hose on did, better leave self a note, there ya go

kettle’s making sounds like it’s started boiling, rattling, no whistling yet…..there it is….excuse me a moment

okay coffee landed

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

I go turns electric blanket on

It’s quite cool at the redoubt as well.
Should quite down a bit.

had run of real cool weather, hard to believe, cold nights, anyways I been nearly dies from pharyngitis and whatever, cold sensitive, feels like cold will kill me, so went got spare electric blanket from M’s, no trouble running that on low through night on batteries, but had avoided it to this day, thirteen years

transition said:

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

I go turns electric blanket on

It’s quite cool at the redoubt as well.
Should quite down a bit.

had run of real cool weather, hard to believe, cold nights, anyways I been nearly dies from pharyngitis and whatever, cold sensitive, feels like cold will kill me, so went got spare electric blanket from M’s, no trouble running that on low through night on batteries, but had avoided it to this day, thirteen years

I went outside at around 4am & while there there were several puffs of warm air not the usual cool breeze. Possibly a hot day coming up.

transition said:

turned hose on did, better leave self a note, there ya go

kettle’s making sounds like it’s started boiling, rattling, no whistling yet…..there it is….excuse me a moment

okay coffee landed

Don’t you like using a tap timer?

boppa said:

Boris said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Do you have an example of these things?

All that came up in a quick binge was either window mounted or connected to a window with an exhaust hose.

zero breeze makes portable one for camping. not “mini” as such but quite small and portable.

They all have a ‘hose’ or vents (except split cycles, which have the outside unit)- there are some claimed’ AC units’ that aren’t (swamp coolers) that simply blown damp/humid air over you that ‘cools you off’- many of the ‘camping coolers’ are these…

I use the one from the caravan as a ‘cold air fan’ (its too small to actually cool an entire shed lol) but its nice on days over 35C to sit in the recliner in the ‘cold air blast’ to relax…- the hose is running out the open door behind it…

In the van, the hose dumps into a hole in the floor instead

roughbarked said:

boppa said:

Boris said:

zero breeze makes portable one for camping. not “mini” as such but quite small and portable.

They all have a ‘hose’ or vents (except split cycles, which have the outside unit)- there are some claimed’ AC units’ that aren’t (swamp coolers) that simply blown damp/humid air over you that ‘cools you off’- many of the ‘camping coolers’ are these…

I use the one from the caravan as a ‘cold air fan’ (its too small to actually cool an entire shed lol) but its nice on days over 35C to sit in the recliner in the ‘cold air blast’ to relax…- the hose is running out the open door behind it…

In the van, the hose dumps into a hole in the floor instead

A neighbour down the road stuck it out on the verge, he puts a lot of stuff that still works out there. I pic ked it up and brought it home. It is only any good at all to keep your face cooler than the rest of your body.
It measures 17cm cube.

What gives with the ABC hosting the New Beatles trailer and the Free as a Bird videos with advertisement at the beginning?
The youtube link doesn’t have the ad but the ABC linked videos do.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-27/the-beatles-new-song-now-and-then-paul-mccartney-john-lennon-ai/103028012

roughbarked said:

The police have arrested Erin Patterson.
The mushroom lady.

Ooh

Hello

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

The police have arrested Erin Patterson.
The mushroom lady.

Ooh

Poison Ivy and The Riddler remain on the run.

dv: I really appreciate you putting up the article about geologic hydrogen. I had no idea it existed, nor that it might just become the Next Big Thing in geology. There is one producing hydrogen field (Mali). I’ve read a lot of papers now, and have thoroughly enjoyed trying to understand it. There is an awful lot of speculation out there. I wish I were younger and able to work in this emerging strand of geology.

Thanks.

Mr Tunks is here but not yet making noises.

Probably surveying the scope of the job he faces, and ruminating.

Michael V said:

dv: I really appreciate you putting up the article about geologic hydrogen. I had no idea it existed, nor that it might just become the Next Big Thing in geology. There is one producing hydrogen field (Mali). I’ve read a lot of papers now, and have thoroughly enjoyed trying to understand it. There is an awful lot of speculation out there. I wish I were younger and able to work in this emerging strand of geology.

Thanks.

How deep under the ground is it ?
Actually don’t be lazy Cymek and look it up

Michael V said:

dv: I really appreciate you putting up the article about geologic hydrogen. I had no idea it existed, nor that it might just become the Next Big Thing in geology. There is one producing hydrogen field (Mali). I’ve read a lot of papers now, and have thoroughly enjoyed trying to understand it. There is an awful lot of speculation out there. I wish I were younger and able to work in this emerging strand of geology.

Thanks.

Buy shares in it instead?

Bubblecar said:

Mr Tunks is here but not yet making noises.

Probably surveying the scope of the job he faces, and ruminating.

Mr Tunks is a ruminant?

Bubblecar said:

Mr Tunks is here but not yet making noises.

Probably surveying the scope of the job he faces, and ruminating.

Hmm is that a grave ?

Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

Mr Tunks is here but not yet making noises.

Probably surveying the scope of the job he faces, and ruminating.

Mr Tunks is a ruminant?

Does that mean he likes ants soaked in rum?

Michael V said:

dv: I really appreciate you putting up the article about geologic hydrogen. I had no idea it existed, nor that it might just become the Next Big Thing in geology. There is one producing hydrogen field (Mali). I’ve read a lot of papers now, and have thoroughly enjoyed trying to understand it. There is an awful lot of speculation out there. I wish I were younger and able to work in this emerging strand of geology.

Thanks.

Yes. I read that too. Thanks.

Bubblecar said:

Mr Tunks is here but not yet making noises.

Probably surveying the scope of the job he faces, and ruminating.

Servicing the mower on your time.

Police arrest Erin Patterson over Leongatha suspected mushroom poisoning deaths

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/erin-patterson-mushroom-death-arrest-leongatha/102714436

Cymek said:

Michael V said:

dv: I really appreciate you putting up the article about geologic hydrogen. I had no idea it existed, nor that it might just become the Next Big Thing in geology. There is one producing hydrogen field (Mali). I’ve read a lot of papers now, and have thoroughly enjoyed trying to understand it. There is an awful lot of speculation out there. I wish I were younger and able to work in this emerging strand of geology.

Thanks.

How deep under the ground is it ?
Actually don’t be lazy Cymek and look it up

There is so much we dont know yet.

The uppermost reservoir in the Mali Hydrogen Field is about 100 metres from the surface.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

boppa said:

They all have a ‘hose’ or vents (except split cycles, which have the outside unit)- there are some claimed’ AC units’ that aren’t (swamp coolers) that simply blown damp/humid air over you that ‘cools you off’- many of the ‘camping coolers’ are these…

I use the one from the caravan as a ‘cold air fan’ (its too small to actually cool an entire shed lol) but its nice on days over 35C to sit in the recliner in the ‘cold air blast’ to relax…- the hose is running out the open door behind it…

In the van, the hose dumps into a hole in the floor instead

A neighbour down the road stuck it out on the verge, he puts a lot of stuff that still works out there. I pic ked it up and brought it home. It is only any good at all to keep your face cooler than the rest of your body.
It measures 17cm cube.

A ‘swamp cooler’ aka poor mans AC…
OK in dry locations, but worse than useless if it is humid…
Doesn’t actually cool the air at all (it actually makes it slightly warmer by an imperceptible amount), but cools you by blowing a moist breeze over you (which is why they don’t work well in humid conditions)- exactly how perspiring cools you down…

Woodie said:

Michael V said:

dv: I really appreciate you putting up the article about geologic hydrogen. I had no idea it existed, nor that it might just become the Next Big Thing in geology. There is one producing hydrogen field (Mali). I’ve read a lot of papers now, and have thoroughly enjoyed trying to understand it. There is an awful lot of speculation out there. I wish I were younger and able to work in this emerging strand of geology.

Thanks.

Buy shares in it instead?

I’m not that stupid.

boppa said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

A neighbour down the road stuck it out on the verge, he puts a lot of stuff that still works out there. I pic ked it up and brought it home. It is only any good at all to keep your face cooler than the rest of your body.
It measures 17cm cube.

A ‘swamp cooler’ aka poor mans AC…
OK in dry locations, but worse than useless if it is humid…
Doesn’t actually cool the air at all (it actually makes it slightly warmer by an imperceptible amount), but cools you by blowing a moist breeze over you (which is why they don’t work well in humid conditions)- exactly how perspiring cools you down…

Yeah I know. I live in what is an arid environment that Samuel McAughey filled with irrigation water. So There are days which are ludicrously humid for hot weather but many days are as dry as a mouthful of arrowroot biscuit.

Its usually dry air where I am, but water is scarce, so they aren’t common here
(todays pretty typical, humidity 37%)

Its usually dry air where I am, but water is scarce, so they aren’t common here
(todays pretty typical, humidity 37%)

Its usually dry air where I am, but water is scarce, so they aren’t common here
(todays pretty typical, humidity 37%)

sarahs mum said:

Police arrest Erin Patterson over Leongatha suspected mushroom poisoning deaths

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/erin-patterson-mushroom-death-arrest-leongatha/102714436

Seemed inevitable although they took a bit of time about it.

boppa said:

Its usually dry air where I am, but water is scarce, so they aren’t common here
(todays pretty typical, humidity 37%)

In triplicate.

Right now the R/H is 32%
and this week is expected to look like this morning and eve each day
57% 21% 56% 24% 58% 22% 57% 27% 54% 26% 52% 25% 51% 24%

However, it isn’t uncommon to be around 10% for many days here.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Police arrest Erin Patterson over Leongatha suspected mushroom poisoning deaths

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/erin-patterson-mushroom-death-arrest-leongatha/102714436

Seemed inevitable although they took a bit of time about it.

They had to build a case.

Dunno what happened there lol
(internets been flaky and slow since the fires)
Thats quite high for us too- yeah 10%-15% is more common

roughbarked said:

boppa said:

Its usually dry air where I am, but water is scarce, so they aren’t common here
(todays pretty typical, humidity 37%)

In triplicate.

Right now the R/H is 32%
and this week is expected to look like this morning and eve each day
57% 21% 56% 24% 58% 22% 57% 27% 54% 26% 52% 25% 51% 24%

However, it isn’t uncommon to be around 10% for many days here.

RH = 30%. Evap cooler is working well.

I’d better have a shower so I’m smelling acceptable when I give Mr Tunks his wages and have a chat etc.

Bubblecar said:

I’d better have a shower so I’m smelling acceptable when I give Mr Tunks his wages and have a chat etc.

He’ll be all sweaty and he probably cannot smell you through all the dust up his nostrils. Spare a thought for the man.

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Police arrest Erin Patterson over Leongatha suspected mushroom poisoning deaths

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/erin-patterson-mushroom-death-arrest-leongatha/102714436

Seemed inevitable although they took a bit of time about it.

They had to build a case.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/diy-advice/home-improvement/shelving-and-storage/how-to-build-a-diy-bookcase

This beloved parrot is in decline in SA’s Riverland. Enter the ‘difficult-bird’ research team
ABC Riverland/

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Seemed inevitable although they took a bit of time about it.

They had to build a case.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/diy-advice/home-improvement/shelving-and-storage/how-to-build-a-diy-bookcase

Need something to fill your day in with?

roughbarked said:

This beloved parrot is in decline in SA’s Riverland. Enter the ‘difficult-bird’ research team
ABC Riverland/

Nesting sites is the biggest problem for the few birds that can actually find their native foods.
Real estate is at a premium.
We probably should get the Americans to arm them with weapons to fight humans for their bit of space.

Michael V said:

dv: I really appreciate you putting up the article about geologic hydrogen. I had no idea it existed, nor that it might just become the Next Big Thing in geology. There is one producing hydrogen field (Mali). I’ve read a lot of papers now, and have thoroughly enjoyed trying to understand it. There is an awful lot of speculation out there. I wish I were younger and able to work in this emerging strand of geology.

Thanks.

no worries

London
CNN —
King Charles III will attend the UN’s COP28 climate summit in Dubai this year and deliver an address at the opening ceremony, Buckingham Palace said Wednesday.

Last year, the UK government, led by then-Prime Minister Liz Truss, advised the British monarch against attending the 2022 annual talks, which were held in Egypt. CNN understood at the time that, following consultations with the government, it was jointly agreed that the climate summit wasn’t the right occasion for the King’s first trip overseas as sovereign.

Few world leaders have confirmed their attendance at the talks. It is not yet clear whether US President Joe Biden will travel to the United Arab Emirates for the event.

The 74-year-old King will give his address on December 1, and also meet with regional leaders, the palace said. His visit comes at a time of high tensions in the Middle East, as the Israel-Gaza war threatens to spill over to other countries.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/01/climate/king-charles-cop28-climate-summit-intl/index.html

Finally managed to get a copy of Cooking with Poo; it’s actually quite a good book. The writer, Saiyuud Diwong, is a Thai who’s using the proceeds from book sales to improve the quality of life of people in her neighbourhood. It’s also got some great recipes (though I haven’t actually tried them yet. And they’re not about using faeces in food; Poo is Ms Diwong’s nickname.) The book won an award in 2011 for the oddest book title.

btm said:

Finally managed to get a copy of Cooking with Poo; it’s actually quite a good book. The writer, Saiyuud Diwong, is a Thai who’s using the proceeds from book sales to improve the quality of life of people in her neighbourhood. It’s also got some great recipes (though I haven’t actually tried them yet. And they’re not about using faeces in food; Poo is Ms Diwong’s nickname.) The book won an award in 2011 for the oddest book title.

That’s a giggle.

roughbarked said:

btm said:

Finally managed to get a copy of Cooking with Poo; it’s actually quite a good book. The writer, Saiyuud Diwong, is a Thai who’s using the proceeds from book sales to improve the quality of life of people in her neighbourhood. It’s also got some great recipes (though I haven’t actually tried them yet. And they’re not about using faeces in food; Poo is Ms Diwong’s nickname.) The book won an award in 2011 for the oddest book title.

That’s a giggle.

Yan Can Cook is good for a yummy laugh.

btm said:

Finally managed to get a copy of Cooking with Poo; it’s actually quite a good book. The writer, Saiyuud Diwong, is a Thai who’s using the proceeds from book sales to improve the quality of life of people in her neighbourhood. It’s also got some great recipes (though I haven’t actually tried them yet. And they’re not about using faeces in food; Poo is Ms Diwong’s nickname.) The book won an award in 2011 for the oddest book title.

Heh. Bet that sold many copies for the title alone.

The Conversation
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By Chris Martin
It took seven years, but a tiny remote community in the Northern Territory had a major legal win yesterday — and renters around Australia can take heart from the decision, writes Chris Martin.

Just as I think Mr Tunks is finished and I head outside to pay him, he starts up another machine.

Happens time and again ‘cos he does such a thorough job.

Bubblecar said:

Just as I think Mr Tunks is finished and I head outside to pay him, he starts up another machine.

Happens time and again ‘cos he does such a thorough job.

You need to provide him with a little flag which he can hoist on the aerial of his car to signify the end of the job.

captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Just as I think Mr Tunks is finished and I head outside to pay him, he starts up another machine.

Happens time and again ‘cos he does such a thorough job.

You need to provide him with a little flag which he can hoist on the aerial of his car to signify the end of the job.

It would save some awkward moments of uncertainty.

boppa said:

Its usually dry air where I am, but water is scarce, so they aren’t common here
(todays pretty typical, humidity 37%)

No bores?

Michael V said:

boppa said:

Its usually dry air where I am, but water is scarce, so they aren’t common here
(todays pretty typical, humidity 37%)

No bores?

Isn’t that based on individuals opinions and subject matter

An alpaca walks into a restaurant in Hangzhou. No idea why…

https://twitter.com/gunsnrosesgirl3/status/1719049049075044449?

Ian: how’s the fire going?

Witty Rejoinder said:

An alpaca walks into a restaurant in Hangzhou. No idea why…

https://twitter.com/gunsnrosesgirl3/status/1719049049075044449?

Quite obviously a pet. So clean.

Just received a bill for the ambulance trip I had in September (from Queenscliff to Geelong in Victoria.) It’s not itemised, but the amount apparently includes the cost of using 000. $2004.00.

btm said:

Just received a bill for the ambulance trip I had in September (from Queenscliff to Geelong in Victoria.) It’s not itemised, but the amount apparently includes the cost of using 000. $2004.00.

You got insurance?

dv said:

btm said:

Just received a bill for the ambulance trip I had in September (from Queenscliff to Geelong in Victoria.) It’s not itemised, but the amount apparently includes the cost of using 000. $2004.00.

You got insurance?

No. Victoria’s ambulance service allows people to join; if they do, and need an ambulance, the trip’s free. I’m not a member, either.

btm said:

dv said:

btm said:

Just received a bill for the ambulance trip I had in September (from Queenscliff to Geelong in Victoria.) It’s not itemised, but the amount apparently includes the cost of using 000. $2004.00.

You got insurance?

No. Victoria’s ambulance service allows people to join; if they do, and need an ambulance, the trip’s free. I’m not a member, either.

Damn. Ambulance service is free to all residents in Tasmania.

Gold Hydrogen made an ASX announcement on 31 October of a hydrogen play (73.3%) containing 3.6% He (!) in recent drilling on the Yorke Peninsula, South Australia.

It’ll be interesting to see what the flow and recharge rates are like. (Mali has a significant recharge rate.)

https://www.goldhydrogen.com.au/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023.10.31-ASX-Announcement-Hydrogen-and-Helium-Detected-in-Ramsay-1-Well-3.pdf

https://www.goldhydrogen.com.au/

btm said:

Just received a bill for the ambulance trip I had in September (from Queenscliff to Geelong in Victoria.) It’s not itemised, but the amount apparently includes the cost of using 000. $2004.00.

You have ambulance cover ?

btm said:

Just received a bill for the ambulance trip I had in September (from Queenscliff to Geelong in Victoria.) It’s not itemised, but the amount apparently includes the cost of using 000. $2004.00.

I had two ambulance call outs a couple of weeks ago.. the first one I was transported $1020.00, the second one they just came to me and did a teleconference with the EMD.. $600.00…

I have private health insurance, but that’s still quite a bill. (especially the one where they didn’t transport and gave me nothing )

Bubblecar said:

btm said:

dv said:

You got insurance?

No. Victoria’s ambulance service allows people to join; if they do, and need an ambulance, the trip’s free. I’m not a member, either.

Damn. Ambulance service is free to all residents in Tasmania.

Anecdote.

When I first moved to the area, my next door neighbour at the time had a “friend” house sitting for a week or so. One night, about 10pm, I got a knock at the door, and it was two ambulance crew. They had gone in next door’s gate, and and instead of going around and up the driveway, they went straight on and into the bog. Wanted to know if I had something that would tow them out.
CALSS……. The house sitter, walked down to the ambulance bogged at the gate in the dark, and when the ambulance driver saw her, said “Oh no!! Not her again”. Apparently, so the driver told me, whenever she is away from town she calls an ambulance with a “ooooooooooo me back….. I can’t move”, and get’s a free ride back to town.

Michael V said:

Gold Hydrogen made an ASX announcement on 31 October of a hydrogen play (73.3%) containing 3.6% He (!) in recent drilling on the Yorke Peninsula, South Australia.

It’ll be interesting to see what the flow and recharge rates are like. (Mali has a significant recharge rate.)

https://www.goldhydrogen.com.au/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023.10.31-ASX-Announcement-Hydrogen-and-Helium-Detected-in-Ramsay-1-Well-3.pdf

https://www.goldhydrogen.com.au/

Told ya ta buy.

Woodie said:

Michael V said:

Gold Hydrogen made an ASX announcement on 31 October of a hydrogen play (73.3%) containing 3.6% He (!) in recent drilling on the Yorke Peninsula, South Australia.

It’ll be interesting to see what the flow and recharge rates are like. (Mali has a significant recharge rate.)

https://www.goldhydrogen.com.au/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023.10.31-ASX-Announcement-Hydrogen-and-Helium-Detected-in-Ramsay-1-Well-3.pdf

https://www.goldhydrogen.com.au/

Told ya ta buy.

Bilo sell high.

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Michael V said:

Gold Hydrogen made an ASX announcement on 31 October of a hydrogen play (73.3%) containing 3.6% He (!) in recent drilling on the Yorke Peninsula, South Australia.

It’ll be interesting to see what the flow and recharge rates are like. (Mali has a significant recharge rate.)

https://www.goldhydrogen.com.au/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023.10.31-ASX-Announcement-Hydrogen-and-Helium-Detected-in-Ramsay-1-Well-3.pdf

https://www.goldhydrogen.com.au/

Told ya ta buy.

Bilo sell high.

How low and how hi, Mr Man???

Woodie said:

Michael V said:

Gold Hydrogen made an ASX announcement on 31 October of a hydrogen play (73.3%) containing 3.6% He (!) in recent drilling on the Yorke Peninsula, South Australia.

It’ll be interesting to see what the flow and recharge rates are like. (Mali has a significant recharge rate.)

https://www.goldhydrogen.com.au/wp/wp-content/uploads/2023.10.31-ASX-Announcement-Hydrogen-and-Helium-Detected-in-Ramsay-1-Well-3.pdf

https://www.goldhydrogen.com.au/

Told ya ta buy.

This is Australia’s first well targeting hydrogen. It was near a 1930s oil well that found 76% hydrogen and was capped because there was no oil.

I find that amazing. The first well hits potential pay dirt.

Do something about it Branson urges NSW government to decriminalise illicit drugs

I needs a nap

I’ve been back from the bush for about 3 hours or more. But I’ve been busy. I have caught up with you lot, flipped through the ABC news headlines and sorted out my flower photos from today. It’s a new month, so I can photograph everything again for them to go into the November records. I’ll put a few up in Purdie Flaars later.

Because you’re my friends, I’ll share with you this 1954 snap of a handsome SHELL tank wagon used on the railways of Victoria. Built 1927 and still in good nick 27 years later.

transition said:

I needs a nap

Looks like someone lost control of their kite.

Barramundi and salad again tonight. So I’d better start slicing cumcuber.

Bubblecar said:

Barramundi and salad again tonight. So I’d better start slicing cumcuber.

I was talking to a chap yesterday that had caught a barra at Carlo Point last week.

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

Barramundi and salad again tonight. So I’d better start slicing cumcuber.

I was talking to a chap yesterday that had caught a barra at Carlo Point last week.

Blimey.

Grilled cheese on toast with slices of tomato washed down with a cuppa, washed down with a cuppa (black and one)
Over.

Peak Warming Man said:

Grilled cheese on toast with slices of tomato washed down with a cuppa, washed down with a cuppa (black and one)
Over.

I’m thinking, maybe potato and onion curry here…

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Grilled cheese on toast with slices of tomato washed down with a cuppa, washed down with a cuppa (black and one)
Over.

I’m thinking, maybe potato and onion curry here…

Sounds good and something different.

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

Barramundi and salad again tonight. So I’d better start slicing cumcuber.

I was talking to a chap yesterday that had caught a barra at Carlo Point last week.

Blimey.

Blimey nothing – there was a time when hosts of TV travel shows were catching ‘em every week, all over the place.

She has been charged.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/police-charge-erin-patterson-mushroom-poisoning-deaths/103056694

buffy said:

She has been charged.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/police-charge-erin-patterson-mushroom-poisoning-deaths/103056694

And the police formal report:

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/woman-charged-part-investigation-leongatha-deaths

buffy said:

She has been charged.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/police-charge-erin-patterson-mushroom-poisoning-deaths/103056694

yeah, saw that.

party_pants said:

buffy said:

She has been charged.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/police-charge-erin-patterson-mushroom-poisoning-deaths/103056694

yeah, saw that.

I knew she had been arrested this morning, but the police notice that she has been charged only went up at 7.19pm this evening.

buffy said:

buffy said:

She has been charged.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/police-charge-erin-patterson-mushroom-poisoning-deaths/103056694

And the police formal report:

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/woman-charged-part-investigation-leongatha-deaths

Ta.

buffy said:

party_pants said:

buffy said:

She has been charged.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/police-charge-erin-patterson-mushroom-poisoning-deaths/103056694

yeah, saw that.

I knew she had been arrested this morning, but the police notice that she has been charged only went up at 7.19pm this evening.

I had only just sat down and opened up Youtube. There were news clips suggested in my feed. Didn’t watch any of them, just read the headlines.

Sample of face stimuli with truly happy and blended expressions.

The Ghost Nebula in Cepheus, snapped by Polish enthusiast Bogdan Jarzyna.

An exploration of the evidence surrounding the identity of the last captive Thylacine
Gareth Linnard; Stephen R. Sleightholme
Australian Zoologist (2023)
https://doi.org/10.7882/AZ.2023.034
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The last known captive Thylacine (Thylacinus cynocephalus) died at the Beaumaris Zoo on Hobart’s Queen’s Domain on the evening of Monday the 7th September 1936. However, within six months of its death the date of its capture was being inaccurately reported. Over the ensuing years there has been much debate and controversy relating to its source, sex, period of display, welfare, and more recently the fate of its remains. Whilst there has been some agreement, significant confusion has been created by the disparate, fragmentary, and often contradictory sources of evidence, with five distinctly exclusive provenances proposed for this specimen. For a species whose extinction was hastened by anthropogenic interventions, we have a moral obligation to preserve as much factual detail as possible about the Thylacine. To this end, the authors have undertaken a thorough review of the hypotheses advanced by Smith (1981) & Paddle (2000); Guiler (1986) & Bailey (2001); Sleightholme et al., 2020; Linnard et al., 2020 and Paddle & Medlock (2023), and have evaluated each against a synthesis of the evidence accrued over the previous 93 years to examine whether a definitive identification and history of the last known captive Thylacine can be determined. The authors found a sufficiently strong correlation between the evidence and the position advanced by Linnard et al., (2020) to maintain that the last captive Thylacine can be identified as the juvenile male captured at Penney’s Flats on the Arthur River by 19 year old Roy and 59 year old Dan Delphin on the evening of Monday 7th July 1930.

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sarahs mum said:

An exploration of the evidence surrounding the identity of the last captive Thylacine
Gareth Linnard; Stephen R. Sleightholme
Australian Zoologist (2023)
https://doi.org/10.7882/AZ.2023.034
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The last known captive Thylacine (Thylacinus cynocephalus) died at the Beaumaris Zoo on Hobart’s Queen’s Domain on the evening of Monday the 7th September 1936. However, within six months of its death the date of its capture was being inaccurately reported. Over the ensuing years there has been much debate and controversy relating to its source, sex, period of display, welfare, and more recently the fate of its remains. Whilst there has been some agreement, significant confusion has been created by the disparate, fragmentary, and often contradictory sources of evidence, with five distinctly exclusive provenances proposed for this specimen. For a species whose extinction was hastened by anthropogenic interventions, we have a moral obligation to preserve as much factual detail as possible about the Thylacine. To this end, the authors have undertaken a thorough review of the hypotheses advanced by Smith (1981) & Paddle (2000); Guiler (1986) & Bailey (2001); Sleightholme et al., 2020; Linnard et al., 2020 and Paddle & Medlock (2023), and have evaluated each against a synthesis of the evidence accrued over the previous 93 years to examine whether a definitive identification and history of the last known captive Thylacine can be determined. The authors found a sufficiently strong correlation between the evidence and the position advanced by Linnard et al., (2020) to maintain that the last captive Thylacine can be identified as the juvenile male captured at Penney’s Flats on the Arthur River by 19 year old Roy and 59 year old Dan Delphin on the evening of Monday 7th July 1930.

This content is only available as a PDF.

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Poor thing.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

An exploration of the evidence surrounding the identity of the last captive Thylacine
Gareth Linnard; Stephen R. Sleightholme
Australian Zoologist (2023)
https://doi.org/10.7882/AZ.2023.034
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ABSTRACT
The last known captive Thylacine (Thylacinus cynocephalus) died at the Beaumaris Zoo on Hobart’s Queen’s Domain on the evening of Monday the 7th September 1936. However, within six months of its death the date of its capture was being inaccurately reported. Over the ensuing years there has been much debate and controversy relating to its source, sex, period of display, welfare, and more recently the fate of its remains. Whilst there has been some agreement, significant confusion has been created by the disparate, fragmentary, and often contradictory sources of evidence, with five distinctly exclusive provenances proposed for this specimen. For a species whose extinction was hastened by anthropogenic interventions, we have a moral obligation to preserve as much factual detail as possible about the Thylacine. To this end, the authors have undertaken a thorough review of the hypotheses advanced by Smith (1981) & Paddle (2000); Guiler (1986) & Bailey (2001); Sleightholme et al., 2020; Linnard et al., 2020 and Paddle & Medlock (2023), and have evaluated each against a synthesis of the evidence accrued over the previous 93 years to examine whether a definitive identification and history of the last known captive Thylacine can be determined. The authors found a sufficiently strong correlation between the evidence and the position advanced by Linnard et al., (2020) to maintain that the last captive Thylacine can be identified as the juvenile male captured at Penney’s Flats on the Arthur River by 19 year old Roy and 59 year old Dan Delphin on the evening of Monday 7th July 1930.

This content is only available as a PDF.

https://meridian.allenpress.com/australian-zoologist/article-abstract/doi/10.7882/AZ.2023.034/496635/An-exploration-of-the-evidence-surrounding-the?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Poor thing.

It is really sad that a species that evolved to Tasmanian conditions died of exposure.

Just got home from a public meeting about bushfire preparedness. This week is non-stop bushfire related stuff in Dunsborough.
We’ve already had multiple events, and preparation for events.

Last night was fire brigade training. Tonight was the townsfolk in the local community centre being informed about the various threats to their existence, and the many people trying to avoid that.

The burnoff that we had planned for tomorrow night is cancelled due to ultra dry conditions. There is a school visit/evacuation exercise tomorrow arvo, a burnsmart teaching exercise for tomorrow evening(without fire), a large bushfire expo in central Dunsborough on Saturday morning, and a realistic bushfire simulation with multiple brigades, Incident Control Teams, and multiple government departments involved for Saturday afternoon.

We had to decline having our appliances at the Busselton show this weekend due to overwhelming commitments.

Up at Sparra fart Sunday morning to take our new light tanker into Busselton for display. I’m hoping to get Sunday arvo off to collapse in a heap somewhere.

This is the current Soil Dryness Index reading for the closest town to us.

We are 4-5 weeks ahead of where we should be, even taking into consideration the current global warming which has put the black line well above what it should be.

Kingy said:

This is the current Soil Dryness Index reading for the closest town to us.

We are 4-5 weeks ahead of where we should be, even taking into consideration the current global warming which has put the black line well above what it should be.

a galloping dryness, I notices’t here, when subsoil moisture disappears

transition said:

Kingy said:

This is the current Soil Dryness Index reading for the closest town to us.

We are 4-5 weeks ahead of where we should be, even taking into consideration the current global warming which has put the black line well above what it should be.

a galloping dryness, I notices’t here, when subsoil moisture disappears

Same here.

roughbarked said:

transition said:

Kingy said:

This is the current Soil Dryness Index reading for the closest town to us.

We are 4-5 weeks ahead of where we should be, even taking into consideration the current global warming which has put the black line well above what it should be.

a galloping dryness, I notices’t here, when subsoil moisture disappears

Same here.

I think I have had a pretty dry winter. It’s still damp but that won’t last long. A couple of windy days…

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

transition said:

a galloping dryness, I notices’t here, when subsoil moisture disappears

Same here.

I think I have had a pretty dry winter. It’s still damp but that won’t last long. A couple of windy days…

Average Rainfall To Nov 376.4mm 73.4 day(s)
Total For 2023 191.0mm 70.0 day(s)
Total To This Day 2022 773.2mm 110.0 day(s)

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

Same here.

I think I have had a pretty dry winter. It’s still damp but that won’t last long. A couple of windy days…

Average Rainfall To Nov 376.4mm 73.4 day(s)
Total For 2023 191.0mm 70.0 day(s)
Total To This Day 2022 773.2mm 110.0 day(s)

Note that 2022 at 850.6mm was the wettest year since 1974 which only got to 703mm. Generally, our mean average is around 406mm

I like a dry winter while it’s winter. when it is the spring or summer following it it’s not as fab.

sarahs mum said:

I like a dry winter while it’s winter. when it is the spring or summer following it it’s not as fab.

Everything gets a bit sad around here if we don’t get decent winter and spring rains. Often it doesn’t rain again until New Years eve in such years.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

I like a dry winter while it’s winter. when it is the spring or summer following it it’s not as fab.

Everything gets a bit sad around here if we don’t get decent winter and spring rains. Often it doesn’t rain again until New Years eve in such years.

january and february are my low rainfall months. Which is a bummer coz it is nice to have some rain then. Mostly there is a big wet experience late december that splits the cherries and then stuff all for weeks.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

I like a dry winter while it’s winter. when it is the spring or summer following it it’s not as fab.

Everything gets a bit sad around here if we don’t get decent winter and spring rains. Often it doesn’t rain again until New Years eve in such years.

january and february are my low rainfall months. Which is a bummer coz it is nice to have some rain then. Mostly there is a big wet experience late december that splits the cherries and then stuff all for weeks.

February is our driest month as a rule. It is usually over 35 degrees for much of it as well. 40+ is quite the norm.

I thought it appropriate that a mangrove more powerful than morphine should provide a painkiller good for crocodile bites should exist where the crocodiles are.
That the indigenous peoples discovered this, is also quite remarkable.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/traditional-medicine-after-crocodile-bite-use-olympic-athletes/103057744

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

Everything gets a bit sad around here if we don’t get decent winter and spring rains. Often it doesn’t rain again until New Years eve in such years.

january and february are my low rainfall months. Which is a bummer coz it is nice to have some rain then. Mostly there is a big wet experience late december that splits the cherries and then stuff all for weeks.

February is our driest month as a rule. It is usually over 35 degrees for much of it as well. 40+ is quite the norm.

Doesn’t look too flash for November.

buffy said:

… the police formal report:

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/woman-charged-part-investigation-leongatha-deaths

Interesting effect on that police website.

Clicking on the Quick exit link on the right-hand side of the page takes you to a Google search page, as well as opening a separate Google search page.

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/woman-charged-part-investigation-leongatha-deaths

AussieDJ said:

buffy said:

… the police formal report:

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/woman-charged-part-investigation-leongatha-deaths

Interesting effect on that police website.

Clicking on the Quick exit link on the right-hand side of the page takes you to a Google search page, as well as opening a separate Google search page.

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/woman-charged-part-investigation-leongatha-deaths

Now there’s something I didn’t try.

roughbarked said:

AussieDJ said:

buffy said:

… the police formal report:

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/woman-charged-part-investigation-leongatha-deaths

Interesting effect on that police website.

Clicking on the Quick exit link on the right-hand side of the page takes you to a Google search page, as well as opening a separate Google search page.

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/woman-charged-part-investigation-leongatha-deaths

Now there’s something I didn’t try.

and when I did try it, I got this page. https://new.adblockplus.org/en/update?an=adblockplusfirefox&ap=firefox&apv=119.0&av=3.17.1&p=gecko&pv=109.0

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

AussieDJ said:

Interesting effect on that police website.

Clicking on the Quick exit link on the right-hand side of the page takes you to a Google search page, as well as opening a separate Google search page.

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/woman-charged-part-investigation-leongatha-deaths

Now there’s something I didn’t try.

and when I did try it, I got this page. https://new.adblockplus.org/en/update?an=adblockplusfirefox&ap=firefox&apv=119.0&av=3.17.1&p=gecko&pv=109.0

and two google start pages.

It’s a day.

Plans:
Put cold weather blankies on bed. The Sally Cat and I have been having fights over my special blanket.
Clean some stuff.

buffy said:

buffy said:

She has been charged.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/police-charge-erin-patterson-mushroom-poisoning-deaths/103056694

And the police formal report:

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/woman-charged-part-investigation-leongatha-deaths

This was the part that grabbed my attention:

“Police said the three other attempted murder charges related to separate incidents in Victoria between 2021 and 2022, where a 48-year-old Korumburra man became ill following other meals.” (from the ABC’s report.

Oh joy, the website that I use to pay the mortgage has been shut down temporarily due to a cyber attack, this is day 2 of me trying to pay them.

kii said:

buffy said:

buffy said:

She has been charged.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-02/police-charge-erin-patterson-mushroom-poisoning-deaths/103056694

And the police formal report:

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/woman-charged-part-investigation-leongatha-deaths

This was the part that grabbed my attention:

“Police said the three other attempted murder charges related to separate incidents in Victoria between 2021 and 2022, where a 48-year-old Korumburra man became ill following other meals.” (from the ABC’s report.

Yes, apparently she’d previously tried to kill her ex-husband, who was also supposed to be at the dinner that killed his family members but he hadn’t attended that meal.

kii said:

Oh joy, the website that I use to pay the mortgage has been shut down temporarily due to a cyber attack, this is day 2 of me trying to pay them.

They’ll be busy for a bit.

roughbarked said:

kii said:

buffy said:

And the police formal report:

https://www.police.vic.gov.au/woman-charged-part-investigation-leongatha-deaths

This was the part that grabbed my attention:

“Police said the three other attempted murder charges related to separate incidents in Victoria between 2021 and 2022, where a 48-year-old Korumburra man became ill following other meals.” (from the ABC’s report.

Yes, apparently she’d previously tried to kill her ex-husband, who was also supposed to be at the dinner that killed his family members but he hadn’t attended that meal.

That’s what I figured. The ABC’s report is all I have seen so far.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

kii said:

This was the part that grabbed my attention:

“Police said the three other attempted murder charges related to separate incidents in Victoria between 2021 and 2022, where a 48-year-old Korumburra man became ill following other meals.” (from the ABC’s report.

Yes, apparently she’d previously tried to kill her ex-husband, who was also supposed to be at the dinner that killed his family members but he hadn’t attended that meal.

That’s what I figured. The ABC’s report is all I have seen so far.

Same here.

Heading back into town tonight I saw 8 police cars lit up and heading northbound on Mitchell

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 7 degrees at the back door, overcast and still. We are forecast a cloudy 17 degrees.

No specific plans for today. More gardening I think. Oh, and there is grass needing a mow.

Morning 11.8 degrees with an 11km/h wind from SSE.
Bin day so there will be a tosser at work.

Witty Rejoinder said:

An alpaca walks into a restaurant in Hangzhou. No idea why…

https://twitter.com/gunsnrosesgirl3/status/1719049049075044449?

Probably wanted a wool done steak and an alpacacinno.

Weekly Quiz

roughbarked said:

Weekly Quiz

Presumably 10 is the bad end of whichever scale you are using there, in which case your score is too generous.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Weekly Quiz

Presumably 10 is the bad end of whichever scale you are using there, in which case your score is too generous.

click the link.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Weekly Quiz

Presumably 10 is the bad end of whichever scale you are using there, in which case your score is too generous.

click the link.

4/10. And that was with 2 guesses coming up as correct. I knew only the prime ministers question and the name of the Choice “award”.

esselte said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

An alpaca walks into a restaurant in Hangzhou. No idea why…

https://twitter.com/gunsnrosesgirl3/status/1719049049075044449??

Probably wanted a wool done steak and an alpacacinno.

Has anybody had a lsten to the new Beatles song? If so, what were your impressions?

roughbarked said:

Has anybody had a lsten to the new Beatles song? If so, what were your impressions?

There’s a reason it wasn’t released to 50 years ago.

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Has anybody had a lsten to the new Beatles song? If so, what were your impressions?

There’s a reason it wasn’t released to 50 years ago.

I’m inclined to agree. Sure it is a triumph of recording technical prowess but the song wasn’t really worth ressurecting. I suppose all the die-hard Beatles fanatics are praising it but compared to their previous recordings as a band and as solo artists, it is just a little melancholy moment that even John didn’t think worthy of being on his last album.

roughbarked said:

Has anybody had a lsten to the new Beatles song? If so, what were your impressions?

Probably someone has

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Has anybody had a lsten to the new Beatles song? If so, what were your impressions?

Probably someone has

Which means that you haven’t?

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Has anybody had a lsten to the new Beatles song? If so, what were your impressions?

There’s a reason it wasn’t released to 50 years ago.

they should have used this reason for a lot of their stuff.

Boris said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Has anybody had a lsten to the new Beatles song? If so, what were your impressions?

There’s a reason it wasn’t released to 50 years ago.

they should have used this reason for a lot of their stuff.

Yes. They weren’t all hit songs. John and Paul have both said; we just mucked about often enough, just to prove that beatles fans would buy anything we recorded.

Boris said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Has anybody had a lsten to the new Beatles song? If so, what were your impressions?

There’s a reason it wasn’t released to 50 years ago.

they should have used this reason for a lot of their stuff.

Which are your fav artists?

Witty Rejoinder said:

Boris said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

There’s a reason it wasn’t released to 50 years ago.

they should have used this reason for a lot of their stuff.

Which are your fav artists?

gawd, don’t really have favourites. There are artists I like but there is some of their stuff I don’t like.

Boris said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Boris said:

they should have used this reason for a lot of their stuff.

Which are your fav artists?

gawd, don’t really have favourites. There are artists I like but there is some of their stuff I don’t like.

Yes. I do recall when I was walking home with my first Fairport Convention album under my arm and an acquaintance tried to press me with “are you going to buy all their albums now?” when I hadn’t even played it yet.
Ironically, he bought three of every album of the bands he followed. I asked him why and he said, One stays in mint unopened condition, one I play and the other I keep for posterity if the one I play gets worn out.

weather warms up from here on, sees on weatherology information shares page

I snacks and coffee, then finish watering out back so lady can have a hose, otherwise she’s hoseless while I have them joined together

Lunch report: Homemade chicken/macaroni/avocado salad. Well, when I say home made… it’s the remains of a roast chook from a couple of days ago. And I didn’t make the mayonnaise. But the avocado is from a tree in town here. And I cooked the macaroni, cut up the chicken and mixed it together.

buffy said:

Lunch report: Homemade chicken/macaroni/avocado salad. Well, when I say home made… it’s the remains of a roast chook from a couple of days ago. And I didn’t make the mayonnaise. But the avocado is from a tree in town here. And I cooked the macaroni, cut up the chicken and mixed it together.

Any mushrooms.

Almost every child in detention in Tasmania is on remand.

sarahs mum said:

Almost every child in detention in Tasmania is on remand.

That’s ‘orrible.

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Lunch report: Homemade chicken/macaroni/avocado salad. Well, when I say home made… it’s the remains of a roast chook from a couple of days ago. And I didn’t make the mayonnaise. But the avocado is from a tree in town here. And I cooked the macaroni, cut up the chicken and mixed it together.

Any mushrooms.

I had mushrooms on toast for breakfast.

buffy said:

Lunch report: Homemade chicken/macaroni/avocado salad. Well, when I say home made… it’s the remains of a roast chook from a couple of days ago. And I didn’t make the mayonnaise. But the avocado is from a tree in town here. And I cooked the macaroni, cut up the chicken and mixed it together.

Sounds good, Curried eggmess this end. Might add a few macaroni.

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Lunch report: Homemade chicken/macaroni/avocado salad. Well, when I say home made… it’s the remains of a roast chook from a couple of days ago. And I didn’t make the mayonnaise. But the avocado is from a tree in town here. And I cooked the macaroni, cut up the chicken and mixed it together.

Any mushrooms.

I had mushrooms on toast for breakfast.

Me too. The mushrooms came from Aldi, just in case I disappear but maybe we should be aware that I make my own bread in a kitchen full of wandering bacteria.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Almost every child in detention in Tasmania is on remand.

That’s ‘orrible.

Made worse by the allegations of sexual assault at the one detention centre.

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Lunch report: Homemade chicken/macaroni/avocado salad. Well, when I say home made… it’s the remains of a roast chook from a couple of days ago. And I didn’t make the mayonnaise. But the avocado is from a tree in town here. And I cooked the macaroni, cut up the chicken and mixed it together.

Any mushrooms.

Not for this meal. We had mushroom in our chicken and veg curry the other night. OK so far. (Supermarket Portobellos)

Right then, I think I’ll go and read and siesta. You will all be pleased to know I have mown the backyard this morning. It looks fairly neat, although some of the edges seem to need tidying again. Not today.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Almost every child in detention in Tasmania is on remand.

That’s ‘orrible.

Made worse by the allegations of sexual assault at the one detention centre.

Situation normal for capital detention. These people should be encouraged to have a real purpose in life rather than dooming them to learn how to become worse criminals.

buffy said:

Right then, I think I’ll go and read and siesta. You will all be pleased to know I have mown the backyard this morning. It looks fairly neat, although some of the edges seem to need tidying again. Not today.

Anytime you are dropping by, I have the mower serviced fuelled and awaiting your royal marring presence. :)

roughbarked said:

Has anybody had a lsten to the new Beatles song? If so, what were your impressions?

It’s not the worst of the beatles.

Here’s me wondering what happened to the folding black room divider screen thingy I ordered to place around the model railway table.

I sent a message to eBay asking why it hadn’t yet been delivered. Seller claimed it had been delivered on such-&-such date.

That was the day the table was delivered, in two boxes (haven’t yet unpacked and assembled the table).

I assumed both boxes were for the table, but finally checking, I found the smaller one is the (unassembled) room divider. Doh!

Send them an apology message.

Not being a member of Facebook, is Alex still alive and posting there.

Bubblecar said:

Here’s me wondering what happened to the folding black room divider screen thingy I ordered to place around the model railway table.

I sent a message to eBay asking why it hadn’t yet been delivered. Seller claimed it had been delivered on such-&-such date.

That was the day the table was delivered, in two boxes (haven’t yet unpacked and assembled the table).

I assumed both boxes were for the table, but finally checking, I found the smaller one is the (unassembled) room divider. Doh!

Send them an apology message.

Um, send = sent. I’ve already done so :)

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Here’s me wondering what happened to the folding black room divider screen thingy I ordered to place around the model railway table.

I sent a message to eBay asking why it hadn’t yet been delivered. Seller claimed it had been delivered on such-&-such date.

That was the day the table was delivered, in two boxes (haven’t yet unpacked and assembled the table).

I assumed both boxes were for the table, but finally checking, I found the smaller one is the (unassembled) room divider. Doh!

Send them an apology message.

Um, send = sent. I’ve already done so :)

Apology accepted.

Peak Warming Man said:

Not being a member of Facebook, is Alex still alive and posting there.

Well, something is posting as Allllex.

kii said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Not being a member of Facebook, is Alex still alive and posting there.

Well, something is posting as Allllex.

Jolly good.

Getting a nice drop of rain Woodie?

i’m here, don’t panic, don’t get hysterical

transition said:

i’m here, don’t panic, don’t get hysterical

What news.

And now for something completely different..

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

i’m here, don’t panic, don’t get hysterical

What news.

Mafeking has been relieved!

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

i’m here, don’t panic, don’t get hysterical

What news.

Mafeking has been relieved!

What about Lady Smith.

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

What news.

Mafeking has been relieved!

What about Lady Smith.

She’s feeling much less stressed, too.

Just big pussycats that like water.

I’ll never not fail to understand how WA is not the windpower capital of the universe because this place is ridiculously breezy

dv said:

I’ll never not fail to understand how WA is not the windpower capital of the universe because this place is ridiculously breezy

I fail to understand how WA is not the windpower capital of the universe because this place is ridiculously breezy

Fixed.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

I’ll never not fail to understand how WA is not the windpower capital of the universe because this place is ridiculously breezy

I fail to understand how WA is not the windpower capital of the universe because this place is ridiculously breezy

Fixed.

Broken

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

i’m here, don’t panic, don’t get hysterical

What news.

Mafeking has been relieved!

I’ve had it with these ma fecking snakes on this ma fecking plane.

dv said:

I’ll never not fail to understand how WA is not the windpower capital of the universe because this place is ridiculously breezy

Because South Australia beat you to it.

There’s an article about it in this week’s New Scientist, so it must be true.

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

i’m here, don’t panic, don’t get hysterical

What news.

Mafeking has been relieved!

Mafficking as a verb entered the vernacular…“I was mafficking around on the weekend”

Hurrah for BP!

PermeateFree said:

Just big pussycats that like water.

We saw the tiger swimming at the Dubbo zoo many years ago. Very impressive creature.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

I’ll never not fail to understand how WA is not the windpower capital of the universe because this place is ridiculously breezy

Because South Australia beat you to it.

There’s an article about it in this week’s New Scientist, so it must be true.

Obviously yous’ve never stood behind us on a good day.

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

i’m here, don’t panic, don’t get hysterical

What news.

Mafeking has been relieved!

I didn’t realize there was a Mafeking in NSW. We have one in Gariwerd (the Grampians). It’s population these days is apparently 20(Wikipedia). In 1900 there was a gold rush there. From Wikipedia:

>>The small goldfield yielded 1t of gold from alluvial deposits and from quartz veinlets in a weathered I-type granite pluton of Devonian age.

Many tektites were found in the alluvial gravels at Mafeking.<<

Wonder what this is all about:

Tasmanian Supreme Court judge told to take leave until further notice over ‘significant matter’

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-03/tasmanian-supreme-court-judge-on-leave-significant-matter/103062466

Bubblecar said:

Wonder what this is all about:

Tasmanian Supreme Court judge told to take leave until further notice over ‘significant matter’

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-03/tasmanian-supreme-court-judge-on-leave-significant-matter/103062466

Probably performed a fascist gesture while raping someone and taking dark money for it.

Food report: Mr buffy ordered pizza from our takeaway milkbar. They have finally found a pizza chef. They’ve been threatening to provide pizzas for a couple of months.

:)

Bubblecar said:

Wonder what this is all about:

Tasmanian Supreme Court judge told to take leave until further notice over ‘significant matter’

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-03/tasmanian-supreme-court-judge-on-leave-significant-matter/103062466

There’s probably rogering involved.

buffy said:

Food report: Mr buffy ordered pizza from our takeaway milkbar. They have finally found a pizza chef. They’ve been threatening to provide pizzas for a couple of months.

:)

Trevor are you a pizza chef?
Trevor-: Umm yeah.

buffy said:

Food report: Mr buffy ordered pizza from our takeaway milkbar. They have finally found a pizza chef. They’ve been threatening to provide pizzas for a couple of months.

:)

Lucky ducks. I had another low-cal eggmess.

buffy said:

Food report: Mr buffy ordered pizza from our takeaway milkbar. They have finally found a pizza chef. They’ve been threatening to provide pizzas for a couple of months.

:)

With anchovies???

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Food report: Mr buffy ordered pizza from our takeaway milkbar. They have finally found a pizza chef. They’ve been threatening to provide pizzas for a couple of months.

:)

Trevor are you a pizza chef?
Trevor-: Umm yeah.

More likely..
Trevor, are you a pizza chef?
Trevor: Are you kidding? I’m lucky if I don’t burn toast!
Okay, you’re now pizza chef.

Woodie said:

buffy said:

Food report: Mr buffy ordered pizza from our takeaway milkbar. They have finally found a pizza chef. They’ve been threatening to provide pizzas for a couple of months.

:)

With anchovies???

The question ‘with anchovies’ suggests the possibility (hitherto not imagined) of pizza WITHOUT anchovies, a concept which is mind-boggling and which, frankly, carries with it a whiff of the absurd.

Woodie said:

buffy said:

Food report: Mr buffy ordered pizza from our takeaway milkbar. They have finally found a pizza chef. They’ve been threatening to provide pizzas for a couple of months.

:)

With anchovies???

Nup. My half “with pineapple”. Mr buffy’s half “Meat lovers with chilli”.

buffy said:

Woodie said:

buffy said:

Food report: Mr buffy ordered pizza from our takeaway milkbar. They have finally found a pizza chef. They’ve been threatening to provide pizzas for a couple of months.

:)

With anchovies???

Nup. My half “with pineapple”. .

OMG

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Woodie said:

With anchovies???

Nup. My half “with pineapple”. .

OMG

The Church of Proper Pizza is a broad church, and can accommodate even such schismatics as these poor souls.

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Nup. My half “with pineapple”. .

OMG

The Church of Proper Pizza is a broad church, and can accommodate even such schismatics as these poor souls.

But the Romans had never been to Hawaii, that we know of.

captain_spalding said:

Woodie said:

buffy said:

Food report: Mr buffy ordered pizza from our takeaway milkbar. They have finally found a pizza chef. They’ve been threatening to provide pizzas for a couple of months.

:)

With anchovies???

The question ‘with anchovies’ suggests the possibility (hitherto not imagined) of pizza WITHOUT anchovies, a concept which is mind-boggling and which, frankly, carries with it a whiff of the absurd.

:)

I amm doctoring a forzen ham and pineapple pizza tonight. I have extra pineapple for it.

(and garlic, oregano, onion, olives, pepperoni and melty cheese.)

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

OMG

The Church of Proper Pizza is a broad church, and can accommodate even such schismatics as these poor souls.

But the Romans had never been to Hawaii, that we know of.

Yeah……. What have the Romans ever done for us?

sarahs mum said:

I amm doctoring a forzen ham and pineapple pizza tonight. I have extra pineapple for it.

(and garlic, oregano, onion, olives, pepperoni and melty cheese.)

Sounds very tasty apart from the

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

OMG

The Church of Proper Pizza is a broad church, and can accommodate even such schismatics as these poor souls.

But the Romans had never been to Hawaii, that we know of.

But, had the Hawaiians been to Rome?

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

OMG

The Church of Proper Pizza is a broad church, and can accommodate even such schismatics as these poor souls.

But the Romans had never been to Hawaii, that we know of.

Well I enjoyed it anyway. In case you need to know, I like apricots stuffed into chicken breast and baked and smothered in a cheese sauce. And I like apple sauce with my roast pork. So fruit with meat is not considered foreign in my domain.

By the way, on iNaturalist just now I saw a photo of a Dragonet. Different spelling from my former position as the Dragonette, but anyway. Stunning fish.

Photographed at Point Lonsdale a couple of days ago.

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

The Church of Proper Pizza is a broad church, and can accommodate even such schismatics as these poor souls.

But the Romans had never been to Hawaii, that we know of.

Well I enjoyed it anyway. In case you need to know, I like apricots stuffed into chicken breast and baked and smothered in a cheese sauce. And I like apple sauce with my roast pork. So fruit with meat is not considered foreign in my domain.

By the way, on iNaturalist just now I saw a photo of a Dragonet. Different spelling from my former position as the Dragonette, but anyway. Stunning fish.

Photographed at Point Lonsdale a couple of days ago.

Excellent picture!

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

The Church of Proper Pizza is a broad church, and can accommodate even such schismatics as these poor souls.

But the Romans had never been to Hawaii, that we know of.

Well I enjoyed it anyway. In case you need to know, I like apricots stuffed into chicken breast and baked and smothered in a cheese sauce. And I like apple sauce with my roast pork. So fruit with meat is not considered foreign in my domain.

By the way, on iNaturalist just now I saw a photo of a Dragonet. Different spelling from my former position as the Dragonette, but anyway. Stunning fish.

Photographed at Point Lonsdale a couple of days ago.

Excellent picture!

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

The Church of Proper Pizza is a broad church, and can accommodate even such schismatics as these poor souls.

But the Romans had never been to Hawaii, that we know of.

But, had the Hawaiians been to Rome?

Arena entertainment entrepreneurs?

Home-made fishcakes, salad, and chips here.

Made the fishcakes this morning, they’ve been ‘setting’ in the fridge

Time to do something with them.

I’m going to watch another episode of “While the Men are Away”. It’s taken us a while to finish “Stop Niqvist” and get to this one.

Actually, I won’t. It’s only half an hour to Planet America Fireside Chat. So I’ll faff about with some more plant learning.

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

The Church of Proper Pizza is a broad church, and can accommodate even such schismatics as these poor souls.

But the Romans had never been to Hawaii, that we know of.

Well I enjoyed it anyway. In case you need to know, I like apricots stuffed into chicken breast and baked and smothered in a cheese sauce. And I like apple sauce with my roast pork. So fruit with meat is not considered foreign in my domain.

By the way, on iNaturalist just now I saw a photo of a Dragonet. Different spelling from my former position as the Dragonette, but anyway. Stunning fish.

Photographed at Point Lonsdale a couple of days ago.

It is a fine fish.

I like fruit with meat too but tend not to favour pineapple on pizza.

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

The Church of Proper Pizza is a broad church, and can accommodate even such schismatics as these poor souls.

But the Romans had never been to Hawaii, that we know of.

Yeah……. What have the Romans ever done for us?

lead

good evening

SCIENCE said:

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

But the Romans had never been to Hawaii, that we know of.

Yeah……. What have the Romans ever done for us?

lead

Never mind the lead.

Concrete.

I had rissoles and veg for tea and now having strawberries and blueberries with cream and a sprinkle of sugar.
Over.

Scientists find antimatter is subject to gravity
This article is more than 1 month old
Tests at Cern refute suggestion that antigravity might apply to antimatter, showing instead it also falls downwards

Hannah Devlin Science correspondent
@hannahdev
Thu 28 Sep 2023 02.31 AEST
Galileo put gravitational theory to the test by dropping balls from the Leaning Tower of Pisa. Four hundred years on, scientists have performed a higher tech version of the experiment to demonstrate for the first time that antimatter also falls downwards.

The study, by scientists at Cern, showed conclusively that gravity pulls antihydrogen downwards and that, at least for antimatter, antigravity does not exist.

“Broadly speaking, we’re making antimatter and we’re doing a Leaning Tower of Pisa kind of experiment,” said Prof Jonathan Wurtele, a theoretical physicist at the University of California, Berkeley. “We’re letting the antimatter go, and we’re seeing if it goes up or down.”

Antimatter is a mirror version of ordinary matter, with some basic properties like electrical charge reversed. Antiprotons have the same mass, but a negative charge, while antielectrons (also called positrons) are positively charged.

When matter and antimatter meet, they annihilate each other and produce energy, meaning that in a matter-dominated world like our own, antimatter only fleetingly comes into existence. But most theories predict that equal amounts of matter and antimatter should have been produced during the big bang, and the mystery of what happened to all the antimatter is a central question in fundamental physics.

For some, the concept of antigravity has been an enticing potential explanation to this conundrum. This could have led to the spatial separation of matter and antimatter in the early universe, meaning that we only see a small amount of antimatter in the local universe. There are other theoretical reasons that make this idea unlikely, but as the question had never been put to the test, it had remained a fringe possibility.

“Until you measure it, you just don’t know. That’s science,” said Jeffrey Hangst, a particle physicist at Aarhus University, Denmark, and spokesperson of the Antihydrogen Laser Physics Apparatus (Alpha) collaboration at Cern.

The Alpha apparatus at Cern.
The Alpha apparatus at Cern. Photograph: Cern/AFP/Getty Images

A direct measurement of antimatter falling is hugely challenging because the gravitational force is so weak compared with the other three known forces of nature and scientists have struggled to preserve antimatter for long enough to carry out experiments. The latest study, published in Nature, used antihydrogen atoms cooled to half a degree above absolute zero (-273.15C). About 100 of the antimatter atoms were confined in a 25cm-long magnetic bottle with an opening at the top and bottom. Meticulous measurements showed that the atoms were more likely to escape, and meet their annihilation, at the bottom of the bottle due to gravitational forces.

The gravitational acceleration was found to be within 25% of normal gravity, meaning that it could be identical to the gravitational force experienced by ordinary matter – or at least, similar.

“It has taken us 30 years to learn how to make this anti-atom, to hold on to it, and to control it well enough that we could actually drop it in a way that it would be sensitive to the force of gravity,” said Hangst. “The next step is to measure the acceleration as precisely as we can.”

Bubblecar said:

Wonder what this is all about:

Tasmanian Supreme Court judge told to take leave until further notice over ‘significant matter’

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-03/tasmanian-supreme-court-judge-on-leave-significant-matter/103062466

There is the govt and institutions kiddy fiddling inquiry in state parliament. Conversations have been going as to who is protected and who isn’t.

I’m guessing it is that stuff.

monkey skipper said:

Scientists find antimatter is subject to gravity
This article is more than 1 month old
Tests at Cern refute suggestion that antigravity might apply to antimatter, showing instead it also falls downwards

Hannah Devlin Science correspondent
@hannahdev
Thu 28 Sep 2023 02.31 AEST
Galileo put gravitational theory to the test by dropping balls from the Leaning Tower of Pisa. Four hundred years on, scientists have performed a higher tech version of the experiment to demonstrate for the first time that antimatter also falls downwards.

The study, by scientists at Cern, showed conclusively that gravity pulls antihydrogen downwards and that, at least for antimatter, antigravity does not exist.

“Broadly speaking, we’re making antimatter and we’re doing a Leaning Tower of Pisa kind of experiment,” said Prof Jonathan Wurtele, a theoretical physicist at the University of California, Berkeley. “We’re letting the antimatter go, and we’re seeing if it goes up or down.”

Antimatter is a mirror version of ordinary matter, with some basic properties like electrical charge reversed. Antiprotons have the same mass, but a negative charge, while antielectrons (also called positrons) are positively charged.

When matter and antimatter meet, they annihilate each other and produce energy, meaning that in a matter-dominated world like our own, antimatter only fleetingly comes into existence. But most theories predict that equal amounts of matter and antimatter should have been produced during the big bang, and the mystery of what happened to all the antimatter is a central question in fundamental physics.

For some, the concept of antigravity has been an enticing potential explanation to this conundrum. This could have led to the spatial separation of matter and antimatter in the early universe, meaning that we only see a small amount of antimatter in the local universe. There are other theoretical reasons that make this idea unlikely, but as the question had never been put to the test, it had remained a fringe possibility.

“Until you measure it, you just don’t know. That’s science,” said Jeffrey Hangst, a particle physicist at Aarhus University, Denmark, and spokesperson of the Antihydrogen Laser Physics Apparatus (Alpha) collaboration at Cern.

The Alpha apparatus at Cern.
The Alpha apparatus at Cern. Photograph: Cern/AFP/Getty Images

A direct measurement of antimatter falling is hugely challenging because the gravitational force is so weak compared with the other three known forces of nature and scientists have struggled to preserve antimatter for long enough to carry out experiments. The latest study, published in Nature, used antihydrogen atoms cooled to half a degree above absolute zero (-273.15C). About 100 of the antimatter atoms were confined in a 25cm-long magnetic bottle with an opening at the top and bottom. Meticulous measurements showed that the atoms were more likely to escape, and meet their annihilation, at the bottom of the bottle due to gravitational forces.

The gravitational acceleration was found to be within 25% of normal gravity, meaning that it could be identical to the gravitational force experienced by ordinary matter – or at least, similar.

“It has taken us 30 years to learn how to make this anti-atom, to hold on to it, and to control it well enough that we could actually drop it in a way that it would be sensitive to the force of gravity,” said Hangst. “The next step is to measure the acceleration as precisely as we can.”

Worth a thread Monkey.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Wonder what this is all about:

Tasmanian Supreme Court judge told to take leave until further notice over ‘significant matter’

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-03/tasmanian-supreme-court-judge-on-leave-significant-matter/103062466

There is the govt and institutions kiddy fiddling inquiry in state parliament. Conversations have been going as to who is protected and who isn’t.

I’m guessing it is that stuff.

That is my guess as well. the govt concedes too many people knew that did not step in to protect the children eventhough the concerns were reported and reported some more

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Wonder what this is all about:

Tasmanian Supreme Court judge told to take leave until further notice over ‘significant matter’

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-03/tasmanian-supreme-court-judge-on-leave-significant-matter/103062466

There is the govt and institutions kiddy fiddling inquiry in state parliament. Conversations have been going as to who is protected and who isn’t.

I’m guessing it is that stuff.

That’s quite possibly correct.

Thequestion is, what will they do about it.

Option A: make a clean breast of it, release all the details into the public domain, let the chips fall where they may, and use this as an example of the commitment to stamping out the evil, at whatever stratum it resides.

Option B: close ranks, obfuscate, seal the details until the year 2200 under some form of privilege, and find a replacement for the poor chap.

Which do you think would have the shorter odds?

I know it’s a serious case but given that it won’t return to court until next May, you’d think her lawyer would have applied for bail.

Erin Patterson faces court after police lay murder charges over mushroom meal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-03/erin-patterson-court-murder-charges-mushroom-meal-deaths/103057914

Bubblecar said:

I know it’s a serious case but given that it won’t return to court until next May, you’d think her lawyer would have applied for bail.

Erin Patterson faces court after police lay murder charges over mushroom meal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-03/erin-patterson-court-murder-charges-mushroom-meal-deaths/103057914

The lord moves in mysterious ways

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

I know it’s a serious case but given that it won’t return to court until next May, you’d think her lawyer would have applied for bail.

Erin Patterson faces court after police lay murder charges over mushroom meal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-03/erin-patterson-court-murder-charges-mushroom-meal-deaths/103057914

The lord moves in mysterious ways

apparently mushrooms sales are in decline since this event happened

monkey skipper said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

I know it’s a serious case but given that it won’t return to court until next May, you’d think her lawyer would have applied for bail.

Erin Patterson faces court after police lay murder charges over mushroom meal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-03/erin-patterson-court-murder-charges-mushroom-meal-deaths/103057914

The lord moves in mysterious ways

apparently mushrooms sales are in decline since this event happened

I’ll bet, you should get them cheaply.

Meeeerdah…… MEEEEERDAH! There’s been a meeeeerdah!!!!!

Woodie said:

Meeeerdah…… MEEEEERDAH! There’s been a meeeeerdah!!!!!

Makes the sign of the cross and runs inside.

Bubblecar said:

I know it’s a serious case but given that it won’t return to court until next May, you’d think her lawyer would have applied for bail.

Erin Patterson faces court after police lay murder charges over mushroom meal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-03/erin-patterson-court-murder-charges-mushroom-meal-deaths/103057914

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In Victoria there’s an automatic assumption against bail for certain offences (class 1 offences), including murder. It’s possible she might be able to get bail, but it’d be difficult.

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Meeeerdah…… MEEEEERDAH! There’s been a meeeeerdah!!!!!

Makes the sign of the cross and runs inside.

If this were in a place called Midsomer, i’d be bracing for at least two more.

According to the Supreme Court website, a judge can only be dismissed for misconduct by the Governor at the request of both houses of parliament.

monkey skipper said:

According to the Supreme Court website, a judge can only be dismissed for misconduct by the Governor at the request of both houses of parliament.

All those lawyers…wouldn’t be counting on it.

Asuspected Ponzi scheme that has ensnared Melbourne racing identities and a senior AFL figure was offering returns of up to 8 per cent before the sudden death of its alleged mastermind last month.

Some estimates have put the scale of losses in the scheme run by suburban Melbourne lawyer John Adams at $100 million – more than four times the amount high-profile Sydney con woman Melissa Caddick stole from her victims before disappearing in 2020.

The Victorian Legal Services Commissioner is now working with police to investigate claims that solicitor Mr Adams, who passed away suddenly at the age of 81 last month, misappropriated funds invested in the mortgage lending scheme he operated out of his firm’s Ivanhoe office for more than 40 years.

ABC Investigations has obtained a letter Mr Adams sent to a client in 2019 promising returns of up to 8 per cent, at a time when major banks were offering about 1 per cent annually on term deposits.

“Investments are managed by the firm’s professionals and embrace prudent lending policies and loan-to-value ratios,” the letter says.

“The interest rate payable will be the rate negotiated at the time the mortgage rate is negotiated and rates currently range between 7.5 per cent and 8 per cent per annum.”

It says investors are paid the interest in monthly instalments. One investor told the ABC their payments continued up until the week before Mr Adams’s death.

The letter provides the first glimpse inside the scheme that prompted Mr Adams’s business partner of almost 50 years, Shane Maguire, to alert authorities of the potential fraud earlier this week.

Mr Maguire has declined requests for an interview, but in a statement said that following Mr Adams’s sudden death “we have identified a number of concerns in relation to mortgage investments he had arranged”.

“We have reported these concerns to the Victorian Legal Services Board, which is undertaking its own preliminary assessment of the matter. I am continuing to conduct our practice with the assistance of our capable team.”

There is no suggestion that Mr Maguire or any other employees of the firm, AMS Ivanhoe Lawyers, were involved in the potential misappropriation of funds or other misconduct.

A ‘grandfatherly’ figure who did not want to stop working
A former AMS Ivanhoe Lawyers staff member, who asked not to be identified, said they were shocked to learn about the allegations against Mr Adams.

“He was the last person I would even have expected to be involved in something like this,” the former staff member said.

“I literally fell off my chair when I heard. He was a really grandfatherly type figure around the office.

“The one thing that surprised me about him was that he wanted to keep on working at such an old age. I used to see him sitting exhausted at his desk and think, ‘don’t you want to stop working and enjoy your life?’”

The Victorian Bookmakers Association (VBA) earlier this week revealed it stands to lose about $1.8 million it invested with Mr Adams.

The VBA’s co-chairman Lyndon Hsu said the operation had the hallmarks of a Ponzi scheme.

“We have invested through AMS Lawyers for decades, and in 2019 we invested about $300,000 into the scheme,” he said.

“The way it works is that we would be connected with individual borrowers and individual properties and provided with documents showing that we would have a mortgage over the property.

“But unbeknownst to us at some stage that mortgage has been discharged and we no longer have control over the property.”

Mr Hsu said the association has been flooded with inquiries from bookmakers who also had personal savings invested in the scheme.

But Mr Adams’s clients extend beyond the racing industry.

The ABC has also spoken to a senior AFL figure who said he stands to lose more than a million dollars through the scheme.

In the 2019 offer letter, Mr Adams told the potential investor their funds would be lent out to borrowers in the form of a “first mortgage of a legal interest in residential real estate”.

“The firm’s policy on loan to value ratio is not to exceed 60 per cent of the capital improved value,” the letter says.

“This is to ensure that in the unlikely event of a default requiring the security property to be sold the realisation price would be more than sufficient to recover the full capital investment.”

In other words, investors in the scheme would lend up to 60 per cent of the value of a borrower’s property.

That would ensure investors could get their money back if the borrower defaulted on the loan and their property had to be sold — even if there was a big decline in the value of the property after the initial investment.

Members of Mr Adams’s immediate family have not responded to the ABC’s request for comment.

captain_spalding said:

monkey skipper said:

According to the Supreme Court website, a judge can only be dismissed for misconduct by the Governor at the request of both houses of parliament.

All those lawyers…wouldn’t be counting on it.

Well many years ago ..I was told that the stronghold on these predators syndicates were littered with people from the legal profession, people from the entertainment industry and hidden in levels of government … scary but seems to be proven to be true as people are speaking out more and more about the ugly side of the rich and famous and people in positions of power!!

I had thought him to be a cad and a bounder, but anyone who can rip off the bookies could hardly be all bad.

anyhow i should sleep… big workload to get through this weekend

btm said:

Bubblecar said:

I know it’s a serious case but given that it won’t return to court until next May, you’d think her lawyer would have applied for bail.

Erin Patterson faces court after police lay murder charges over mushroom meal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-03/erin-patterson-court-murder-charges-mushroom-meal-deaths/103057914

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In Victoria there’s an automatic assumption against bail for certain offences (class 1 offences), including murder. It’s possible she might be able to get bail, but it’d be difficult.

Fair enough but you’d think by now there would be automatic compensation payable to defendants who’ve spent a long time in custody if they’re then found not guilty.

Bubblecar said:

btm said:

Bubblecar said:

I know it’s a serious case but given that it won’t return to court until next May, you’d think her lawyer would have applied for bail.

Erin Patterson faces court after police lay murder charges over mushroom meal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-03/erin-patterson-court-murder-charges-mushroom-meal-deaths/103057914

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In Victoria there’s an automatic assumption against bail for certain offences (class 1 offences), including murder. It’s possible she might be able to get bail, but it’d be difficult.

Fair enough but you’d think by now there would be automatic compensation payable to defendants who’ve spent a long time in custody if they’re then found not guilty.

Yes I wonder how that works.

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Meeeerdah…… MEEEEERDAH! There’s been a meeeeerdah!!!!!

Makes the sign of the cross and runs inside.

If this were in a place called Midsomer, i’d be bracing for at least two more.

Quick!! There’s been another meeeerdah!!! Most horrid!!!!

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

btm said:

In Victoria there’s an automatic assumption against bail for certain offences (class 1 offences), including murder. It’s possible she might be able to get bail, but it’d be difficult.

Fair enough but you’d think by now there would be automatic compensation payable to defendants who’ve spent a long time in custody if they’re then found not guilty.

Yes I wonder how that works.

Some lawyers are campaigning for it but I don’t think they’ve got anywhere:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/lawyers-want-compensation-for-people-found-not-guilty-after-years-in-jail-20221027-p5btep.html

If you’re found guilty, the time spent remanded in custody is subtracted from the sentence, but if you’re found not guilty, the response seems to be “Too bad, you were punished for nothing, never mind.”

Doctored pizza was triff considering.

sarahs mum said:

Doctored pizza was triff considering.

:)

Did the dogs score a slice?

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Doctored pizza was triff considering.

:)

Did the dogs score a slice?

a bit of crust. I only ate half. perhaps they will be luckier tomorrow.

Time to sleep the sleep of the just.

Woodie said:

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Makes the sign of the cross and runs inside.

If this were in a place called Midsomer, i’d be bracing for at least two more.

Quick!! There’s been another meeeerdah!!! Most horrid!!!!

Another meeeeerdah!! Anbother one!! A MEEEEERDAH!! Most gruesome.

Woodie said:

Woodie said:

captain_spalding said:

If this were in a place called Midsomer, i’d be bracing for at least two more.

Quick!! There’s been another meeeerdah!!! Most horrid!!!!

Another meeeeerdah!! Anbother one!! A MEEEEERDAH!! Most gruesome.

MEEERDAH!!! She said MEEEERDAH!!

……………………… She said it again!!!

Woodie said:

Woodie said:

Woodie said:

Quick!! There’s been another meeeerdah!!! Most horrid!!!!

Another meeeeerdah!! Anbother one!! A MEEEEERDAH!! Most gruesome.

MEEERDAH!!! She said MEEEERDAH!!

……………………… She said it again!!!

Saffy did it!!! Saffy did it!!!

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees at the back door and overcast. We are forecast a cloudy 17 today.

Was Woodie watching Midsomer Murders last night?

Morning punters.
Weather fine, track good.

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters.
Weather fine, track good.

What tips do you have?

i’ll makes coffee

transition said:

i’ll makes coffee

Ta.

buffy said:

Was Woodie watching Midsomer Murders last night?

I didn’t either. So what happned?

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Was Woodie watching Midsomer Murders last night?

I didn’t either. So what happned?

4 people were murdered.

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Was Woodie watching Midsomer Murders last night?

I didn’t either. So what happned?

4 people were murdered.

I see.

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

I didn’t either. So what happned?

4 people were murdered.

I see.

you’ll be called as an eye witness then.

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

4 people were murdered.

I see.

you’ll be called as an eye witness then.

I see what you did there…

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Was Woodie watching Midsomer Murders last night?

I didn’t either. So what happned?

MEEEERDAH!!! There was a MEEERDAH!!! That’s what happened. 😮

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Was Woodie watching Midsomer Murders last night?

I didn’t either. So what happned?

4 people were murdered.

………… and gruesomely too.

Woodie said:

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

I didn’t either. So what happned?

4 people were murdered.

………… and gruesomely too.

Acceptable body count for an episode of Midsomer.

5 would be pushing it, the sort of thing that might make the London papers. 3 would be acceptable, but must try harder. 4 dead is the custom, not out of the ordinary, move along, nothing to see here, just the killings of four people, not like it doesn’t happen every week around here.

‘Midsomer Murders’ is, i understand, enormously popular in Denmark and Germany, where they just love the sheer Englishness of it.

roughbarked said:

transition said:

i’ll makes coffee

Ta.

No idea. He kept mentioning murders. We didn’t watch it.