Date: 3/11/2023 21:04:30
From: monkey skipper
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Subject: Scientists find antimatter is subject to gravity

Scientists find antimatter is subject to gravity
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Tests at Cern refute suggestion that antigravity might apply to antimatter, showing instead it also falls downwards

Hannah Devlin Science correspondent
@hannahdev
Thu 28 Sep 2023 02.31 AEST
Galileo put gravitational theory to the test by dropping balls from the Leaning Tower of Pisa. Four hundred years on, scientists have performed a higher tech version of the experiment to demonstrate for the first time that antimatter also falls downwards.

The study, by scientists at Cern, showed conclusively that gravity pulls antihydrogen downwards and that, at least for antimatter, antigravity does not exist.

“Broadly speaking, we’re making antimatter and we’re doing a Leaning Tower of Pisa kind of experiment,” said Prof Jonathan Wurtele, a theoretical physicist at the University of California, Berkeley. “We’re letting the antimatter go, and we’re seeing if it goes up or down.”

Antimatter is a mirror version of ordinary matter, with some basic properties like electrical charge reversed. Antiprotons have the same mass, but a negative charge, while antielectrons (also called positrons) are positively charged.

When matter and antimatter meet, they annihilate each other and produce energy, meaning that in a matter-dominated world like our own, antimatter only fleetingly comes into existence. But most theories predict that equal amounts of matter and antimatter should have been produced during the big bang, and the mystery of what happened to all the antimatter is a central question in fundamental physics.

For some, the concept of antigravity has been an enticing potential explanation to this conundrum. This could have led to the spatial separation of matter and antimatter in the early universe, meaning that we only see a small amount of antimatter in the local universe. There are other theoretical reasons that make this idea unlikely, but as the question had never been put to the test, it had remained a fringe possibility.

“Until you measure it, you just don’t know. That’s science,” said Jeffrey Hangst, a particle physicist at Aarhus University, Denmark, and spokesperson of the Antihydrogen Laser Physics Apparatus (Alpha) collaboration at Cern.

The Alpha apparatus at Cern.
The Alpha apparatus at Cern. Photograph: Cern/AFP/Getty Images

A direct measurement of antimatter falling is hugely challenging because the gravitational force is so weak compared with the other three known forces of nature and scientists have struggled to preserve antimatter for long enough to carry out experiments. The latest study, published in Nature, used antihydrogen atoms cooled to half a degree above absolute zero (-273.15C). About 100 of the antimatter atoms were confined in a 25cm-long magnetic bottle with an opening at the top and bottom. Meticulous measurements showed that the atoms were more likely to escape, and meet their annihilation, at the bottom of the bottle due to gravitational forces.

The gravitational acceleration was found to be within 25% of normal gravity, meaning that it could be identical to the gravitational force experienced by ordinary matter – or at least, similar.

“It has taken us 30 years to learn how to make this anti-atom, to hold on to it, and to control it well enough that we could actually drop it in a way that it would be sensitive to the force of gravity,” said Hangst. “The next step is to measure the acceleration as precisely as we can.”

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Date: 5/11/2023 02:21:54
From: mollwollfumble
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Subject: re: Scientists find antimatter is subject to gravity

> The study, by scientists at Cern, showed conclusively that gravity pulls antihydrogen downwards and that, at least for antimatter, antigravity does not exist.

> The gravitational acceleration was found to be within 25% of normal gravity.

Excellent. This has been a prediction of quantum mechanics since the time of Dirac. Let me check … since the year 1928.

Nice to see a confirmation that inertial mass is equal to gravitational mass for antimatter. :-)

By the way, it’s not “obvious” because in many of the equations, only the square of the mass enters rather than the mass itself.

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Date: 15/04/2026 10:23:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2380694
Subject: re: Scientists find antimatter is subject to gravity

the fun thing is that they can gush all they like about the civilian benefits of dual use technology

Cern researchers are testing traps capable of moving antimatter, which explodes into energy as soon as it comes into contact with regular matter

The device on Cern’s truck will carry about 1,000 antimatter particles, weighing about a billionth of a trillionth of a gram. Should the containment fail, and the antimatter make contact with normal matter, the resulting pulse of energy would be so feeble, the load doesn’t even warrant a radioactive label.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2026/mar/14/please-drive-carefully-scientists-plan-to-transport-volatile-antimatter-for-first-time

Other laboratories could measure the antimatter with 100 times more precision, researchers say. With a view to conducting such experiments, Smorra and his colleague, Stefan Ulmer, are building a device to receive antiprotons at Heinrich Heine University in Düsseldorf. To survive the trip from Cern, the antimatter would need to be contained for more than 10 hours: two for loading and unloading the trap and the rest for the 500-mile drive. The trap itself is a feat of engineering. It must hold antimatter in such a way that it never comes into contact with normal matter. To do this, the chamber is held under ultra-high vacuum, comparable to the emptiness of interstellar space. It is cooled to -269C, causing any stray gas to freeze on the chamber walls. Strong magnetic and electric fields are then used to hold the antiprotons in the centre of the cryogenic chamber. The fields are strong enough to hold the antimatter in place should the truck hit bumps or brake sharply in transit. Perhaps the greatest threat to the material is getting stuck in traffic and the power supply failing. For the test run at Cern, the trap will be powered by batteries that last about four hours. Longer trips will need a dedicated generator on board.

“If we ever want to do experiments with antiprotons somewhere else, we need to get this on the road and that’s what we’re trying to do,” Smorra says. “First of all we have to show we can move the antimatter and this is the big milestone for us.”

but what if you ever want to let antimatter confinement fail somewhere else, after a long distance flight for example

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Date: 15/04/2026 10:30:55
From: Cymek
ID: 2380695
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SCIENCE said:

the fun thing is that they can gush all they like about the civilian benefits of dual use technology

Cern researchers are testing traps capable of moving antimatter, which explodes into energy as soon as it comes into contact with regular matter

The device on Cern’s truck will carry about 1,000 antimatter particles, weighing about a billionth of a trillionth of a gram. Should the containment fail, and the antimatter make contact with normal matter, the resulting pulse of energy would be so feeble, the load doesn’t even warrant a radioactive label.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2026/mar/14/please-drive-carefully-scientists-plan-to-transport-volatile-antimatter-for-first-time

Other laboratories could measure the antimatter with 100 times more precision, researchers say. With a view to conducting such experiments, Smorra and his colleague, Stefan Ulmer, are building a device to receive antiprotons at Heinrich Heine University in Düsseldorf. To survive the trip from Cern, the antimatter would need to be contained for more than 10 hours: two for loading and unloading the trap and the rest for the 500-mile drive. The trap itself is a feat of engineering. It must hold antimatter in such a way that it never comes into contact with normal matter. To do this, the chamber is held under ultra-high vacuum, comparable to the emptiness of interstellar space. It is cooled to -269C, causing any stray gas to freeze on the chamber walls. Strong magnetic and electric fields are then used to hold the antiprotons in the centre of the cryogenic chamber. The fields are strong enough to hold the antimatter in place should the truck hit bumps or brake sharply in transit. Perhaps the greatest threat to the material is getting stuck in traffic and the power supply failing. For the test run at Cern, the trap will be powered by batteries that last about four hours. Longer trips will need a dedicated generator on board.

“If we ever want to do experiments with antiprotons somewhere else, we need to get this on the road and that’s what we’re trying to do,” Smorra says. “First of all we have to show we can move the antimatter and this is the big milestone for us.”

but what if you ever want to let antimatter confinement fail somewhere else, after a long distance flight for example

It is antihydrogen they use ?
I’d assume the higher up the periodic chart they go the more effort to create the antimatter counterpart

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Date: 15/04/2026 11:07:01
From: Michael V
ID: 2380696
Subject: re: Scientists find antimatter is subject to gravity

Cymek said:


SCIENCE said:

the fun thing is that they can gush all they like about the civilian benefits of dual use technology

Cern researchers are testing traps capable of moving antimatter, which explodes into energy as soon as it comes into contact with regular matter

The device on Cern’s truck will carry about 1,000 antimatter particles, weighing about a billionth of a trillionth of a gram. Should the containment fail, and the antimatter make contact with normal matter, the resulting pulse of energy would be so feeble, the load doesn’t even warrant a radioactive label.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2026/mar/14/please-drive-carefully-scientists-plan-to-transport-volatile-antimatter-for-first-time

Other laboratories could measure the antimatter with 100 times more precision, researchers say. With a view to conducting such experiments, Smorra and his colleague, Stefan Ulmer, are building a device to receive antiprotons at Heinrich Heine University in Düsseldorf. To survive the trip from Cern, the antimatter would need to be contained for more than 10 hours: two for loading and unloading the trap and the rest for the 500-mile drive. The trap itself is a feat of engineering. It must hold antimatter in such a way that it never comes into contact with normal matter. To do this, the chamber is held under ultra-high vacuum, comparable to the emptiness of interstellar space. It is cooled to -269C, causing any stray gas to freeze on the chamber walls. Strong magnetic and electric fields are then used to hold the antiprotons in the centre of the cryogenic chamber. The fields are strong enough to hold the antimatter in place should the truck hit bumps or brake sharply in transit. Perhaps the greatest threat to the material is getting stuck in traffic and the power supply failing. For the test run at Cern, the trap will be powered by batteries that last about four hours. Longer trips will need a dedicated generator on board.

“If we ever want to do experiments with antiprotons somewhere else, we need to get this on the road and that’s what we’re trying to do,” Smorra says. “First of all we have to show we can move the antimatter and this is the big milestone for us.”

but what if you ever want to let antimatter confinement fail somewhere else, after a long distance flight for example

It is antihydrogen they use ?
I’d assume the higher up the periodic chart they go the more effort to create the antimatter counterpart

Antiprotons. Mentioned three times above.

I suppose that an antiproton is an anti-Hydrogen ion, though.

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Date: 15/04/2026 11:20:23
From: Cymek
ID: 2380697
Subject: re: Scientists find antimatter is subject to gravity

Michael V said:


Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

the fun thing is that they can gush all they like about the civilian benefits of dual use technology

Cern researchers are testing traps capable of moving antimatter, which explodes into energy as soon as it comes into contact with regular matter

The device on Cern’s truck will carry about 1,000 antimatter particles, weighing about a billionth of a trillionth of a gram. Should the containment fail, and the antimatter make contact with normal matter, the resulting pulse of energy would be so feeble, the load doesn’t even warrant a radioactive label.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2026/mar/14/please-drive-carefully-scientists-plan-to-transport-volatile-antimatter-for-first-time

Other laboratories could measure the antimatter with 100 times more precision, researchers say. With a view to conducting such experiments, Smorra and his colleague, Stefan Ulmer, are building a device to receive antiprotons at Heinrich Heine University in Düsseldorf. To survive the trip from Cern, the antimatter would need to be contained for more than 10 hours: two for loading and unloading the trap and the rest for the 500-mile drive. The trap itself is a feat of engineering. It must hold antimatter in such a way that it never comes into contact with normal matter. To do this, the chamber is held under ultra-high vacuum, comparable to the emptiness of interstellar space. It is cooled to -269C, causing any stray gas to freeze on the chamber walls. Strong magnetic and electric fields are then used to hold the antiprotons in the centre of the cryogenic chamber. The fields are strong enough to hold the antimatter in place should the truck hit bumps or brake sharply in transit. Perhaps the greatest threat to the material is getting stuck in traffic and the power supply failing. For the test run at Cern, the trap will be powered by batteries that last about four hours. Longer trips will need a dedicated generator on board.

“If we ever want to do experiments with antiprotons somewhere else, we need to get this on the road and that’s what we’re trying to do,” Smorra says. “First of all we have to show we can move the antimatter and this is the big milestone for us.”

but what if you ever want to let antimatter confinement fail somewhere else, after a long distance flight for example

It is antihydrogen they use ?
I’d assume the higher up the periodic chart they go the more effort to create the antimatter counterpart

Antiprotons. Mentioned three times above.

I suppose that an antiproton is an anti-Hydrogen ion, though.

Ok
I was thinking they were an anti matter atom but its just the proton

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Date: 15/04/2026 11:37:23
From: Cymek
ID: 2380699
Subject: re: Scientists find antimatter is subject to gravity

I wonder if the antimatter counterparts to elements that are short-lived or unstable (they ones humans have created) are stable

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